/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Want to make a quadsuit SO fucking bad!

>dat derpy suicune, tho

I didn't say anything in the last thread but I want to say I enjoyed checking it out. I'm no furry but wearing a mascot costume is fantastic, and I'd love to learn how Japanese make their larger mascot costumes and not just the "How It's Made" mascot one.

>>7817492
It's basically the same as western mascot stuff, only proportioned better to be cuter and match a more "Japanese" aesthetic.

Pic related.

>>7817492
Also pic related.

>sorry, I posted it in the last thread, too.

Would this not be fucking great and comfy as hell for winter?

I really really really want to make a Simba quadsuit in the future.

I pulled some photos of the animatronics and float stuff from Disneyworld.

Does anybody have experience making arm-stilts? I want a nice fit with comfort, but I would love to skip a lot of novice mistakes that could potentially fuck it all up.

Also, what should I use to cut PVC pipe and how should I go about it?

Well, I'll bite. This cosplay idea is still something of a fantasy at the moment, but I'm collecting resources so I have some vague idea of how to get it to work whenever I actually get around to it.

Picture related of the guy I'd like to cosplay at some point, http://www.matrices.net/fursuiting.asp is the site I first found that had info (that seemed reliable). The head is the only thing I'd need to make fursuit-y, I think, but since I've never done anything like this before, would this be too difficult for a first project? Am I even looking in the right direction?

>>7817624
It is not hard even if it is your first head, the only times they fail it is when people just glue fur pieces onto the foam instead of sewing them together and then pulling it over the head.

Not so much a fursuit, but an animal costume.
Was working on this for a con but ended up being unable to go.
Will likely be using it at Halloween and another con coming up in the Winter.

He needs some grooming and work though

>>7817624
I'd like to cosplay a Felyne but I don't have experience in making fursuit heads either. I'm thinking about making the basic shape out of cardboard first and then building slowly on it with foam. Slow and steady.

That site's tutorials look pretty good.

>>7817664

>>7817673

>>7817676

>>7817651
That looks pretty damn decent, anon.
What is/was it supposed to be for the con?

>>7817673
>>7817676
>>7817678
Thanks for the inspiration! These are great.

I love this one

Does anyone have anymore kemono suits that haven't been posted up in the last thread?

>>7817681
A Kokatorimon from Digimon :)

>>7817697
It's not like if there weren't few hundred fursuiters in Japan, the japanese term for fursuit is ケモノ着ぐるみ.

>>7817456
I absolutely adore Beastcub's work. I just watched a panel she held at Califur this year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-lqwJFXANk
Its shitty quality but it was great to hear how she made some and what techniques she uses. I don't think i could ever make one myself. I do sew but i don't think i could ever take on making a full suit like these. I completely admire all the detail that goes into any of these outfits.

>>7817845
Thanks and also sorry?

>>7817815
Try Link's loftwing from Zelda Skyward Sword.

>>7817815
Noice!

>>7817887
We were talking about the eagle-looking mofo, anon.

>>7817969
You're an idiot

any advice for sewing with fur? How do I make seams less bulky?

>>7818155
>818155▶
>any advice for sewing with fur? How do

I would typically sew the fur with a loose zigzag stitch first, flip the pattern inside out, use a pet-slicker brush to brush out the fur trapped in the seams, Then turn it inside out and run over the seams a second time with a tighter straight stitch.

Or, you could sew with a blanket stitch! Very tight seam with no seam allowance to spare. Doesn't trap fur either.

>>7817969

>>7817664
mah nigga, this is also one of my future cosplay plans.

>>7817664
Start with a balaclava, NOT cardboard. Fursuit head get very very hot very very quickly. The cardboard will melt, get mushy and go moldy. You do not want to breathe mold spores.

>>7817513
I guess it's safe to assume the Japanese mascot costumes require a lot more foam (maybe denser and thicker to hold shape better, and somehow kept light) than the American ones. Especially that way they can get such huge shape and not get slack in places. I like how in >>7817517 likely the person's head is looking out through the hat, which is pretty spiffy.

>>7818321
Professional mascot costumes are very rarely made out of pure foam. There's often a plastic shell on the inside that's been vaccumformed into shape and then it's covered in foam. >>7817513 isn't a professional mascot but it's a similar way to how they're built.
>Source: I've worked where they build the chic-fil-a cows.

>>7817969
LOL

>>7818329
Oh dang, so that's how it works! And something as big as the Kirby or whatever, I wish there were x-rays of these because I'd like to know how they are held up on the inside, and hopefully it's not supported by only a head helmet inside...

I really want to do something cute and sanrio-themed like pic related but last time I tried to make a head I fucked it up monumentally
>tfw

>>7818231


The one pictured here >7817651, anon, was the one we were talking about.

>>7818401
Well, there are mascot costumes for sale on Taobao but the shipping is expensive as fuck.

>>7818385
Here you could see how mascot costumes get made, they supply japanese companies and are also in charge of the official MLP ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8YzpMILx6U

>>7818307
Thank you for the advice! A balaclava it is.

Dumping a few fursuits which might interest you guys.

Xpigux

>>7818922
Wow, I'm a failure.

>>7818923
Stuffedpandastudios

>>7818924
Albinotopaz

>>7818927
Vignette

>>7818929
Autumnfallings

>>7818931
Pizako

>>7818934
Another Pizako.

>>7818935
Phoenixwolfsuits

>>7818922
...what you are posting is the names of the fursuit makers, not the names of the fursuits itself.

>>7818947
I'm not really involved with the fursuit community itself, so I don't really know the customs regarding that. I found that posting the makers would be more relevant to the general crowd of CGL and those who browse this thread looking for inspiration and help. But if the general consensus is that the name of the suiters would be relevant then I'll do that instead.

Have a tutorial from a japanese maker. 1/10

>>7818951
2/10

>>7818952
3/10

>>7818955

>>7818960
5/10

>>7818961

>>7818963
7/10
Wow I lost my flow.

>>7818965
8/10

>>7818967
9/10

>>7818971
10/10
I believe there's supposed to be more to this but I can't find it.

>>7818976
Winfox

>>7818982
phoenixwolf

>>7818988
Clockworkcreature

>>7818990
Thecoopcosplay

>>7818997
Another one from Thecoopcosplay

>>7818999
Couldn't find the source for this owl, but that's all I have for now.

>>7818976
I have the rest anon.

I love the adorable faces of iSqueakyPinky's work!

>tfw I have seagulls I can talk to about fursuits.

I-I'm so happy right now.

>>7819052
Is that the last page?

>>7819052
>>7819178
No, I'm just slow as molasses on a cold pair of testicles.

>>7819085
The faces make them look they're from some shitty 80s cartoon

>>7819195
I know she got a new head, and I think it's a lot nicer than this one shown.
That's her boyfriend/husband on the right. I'm not sure about his current suit..

Matrices.

>Tutorials And How-To's
http://cosplaytutorial.com/list/fursuit.php
http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memories.bml?user=fursuit
http://www.matrices.net/fursuiting.asp
http://beetlecatoriginals.com/tutorials/

>Fur
http://www.fabric.com/
http://www.distinctivefabric.com/
http://imstuffedfur.com/
http://mendels.com/
http://www.crscrafts.com/

>Foam
http://www.bobsfoam.com/
http://www.atlasfoam.com/

>Bases, Eyes
http://www.dreamvisioncreations.com/
http://yeepcostumes.com/

>Others
http://fursuitsupplies.com/
https://www.furbuy.com/

>>7819324
I almost want to go crazy and make myself a kemono suit, but the lack of vision seems like it'd be something I couldn't deal with.

Although, I have heard of people installing cameras in their masks and mounting small screens on the inside. Anyone know anything about that?

>>7819331
The vision in kemono fursuits is just like wearing sunglasses, the vision is actually better than with using mesh but like mentioned in the previous thread, japanese fursuit makers love to NOT add fans into the head so the eyes get foggy without an anti-fog spray for glasses. If you add holes under the ears (basicly an ear canal) with fans inside you won't have that problem anyways.

>>7819330
>http://www.crscrafts.com/

I just want to say, I've ordered from them numerous times, and their customer service is complete ass.
They've fucked me over so many times, it's not even funny.

Also, fabric.com oftentimes sends me kinked fur, so be aware of that.

>>7819405

>>7819330
Mendels is one of the best but also almost the most expensive. You're basically paying for decent customer service.
DistinctiveFabric once made a furaffinity account in order to rag on someone that got a bad order. F- would never order from ever.
Yeep's work is fucking amazing I'll be going to them forever. Watch out with DVC though, they're known to be rather shite people and sometimes send out shoddy products full of bubbles.
Furbuy's owner is a piece of crap, don't use it if you can help it. It's also rife with scammers and deadbeats.

>>7819411
Christ on a cracker, speaking as a seller, Furbuy has the WORST rate of deadbeat buyers I have EVER come across.

What's wrong with the owner, though? Juaren, or whatever? I know he can't maintain the site for shit, but that's about all I know about him. Deets?

>>7819429
Check out this entire thread here where here for samples of crazy artists-beware.livejournal (.)com/301781.html ?thread=8802773#t8802773
There's also a couple of posts of him threatening people but in a locked comm. (I don't want the entirety of cgl descending on the comm, you'll probably find it yourself if you know what FD2 is.)

>>7819595
>Furries: not even once.

This is why, while I do make suits, I do my best to stay far the fuck away from the community as I can possibly manage while still trying to make money.

I'd say that 1 outta' 5 furries are straight-up fucking nuts.

I have a huge repect for all those fursuit dancers, I would faint if I would have to do this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXPFUQSxKto

>>7817651
that doesnt really look so good anon

>>7819623
That's more or less the case for any niche hobby. 1 out of 5 lolitas? Batshit. 1 out of 5 cosplayers? Lunatic. 1 out of 5 fandom fanatics? Nutter.

Furries are just even worse at hiding it because they're already so damned visible with the suits and weird fursona thing going on.

>not a furry, just amazed that people don't see these same patterns in other communities

>>7817676
Requesting foam head pattern/s for suits like these.

>>7817678


>>7818934


>>7818971

>>7819724
The only kemono head pattern I know is the one used by pretty much all japanese fursuits like pic related but it isn't exactly for foam.
http://toki-reatle.deviantart.com/art/Pony-Fullsuit-head-pattern-426863770?q=favby%3APetitEmoDevil%2F41977313&qo=5

The only kemono head pattern I know is the one used by pretty much all japanese fursuits like pic related but it isn't exactly for foam.
http://toki-reatle.deviantart.com/art/Pony-Fullsuit-head-pattern-426863770

>>7819717
I guess I don't really interact with ANY community to know the pattern.

I just know from my previous experience trying to merge with the furry community.
Never again.

And people wonder why I'm a recluse.

>>7819763
Dropped my pic.

>>7819764
Before anyone gets their knickers in a knot, I have my own issue with mah brain.
No offense to people with a diagnosis, of course.

But, christ, at least I don't wear it "proudly" like a badge of honor like I'm seen furries do.
>"Proud Aspie"
>can I punch you in the dick?

The vocal minority is the problem because there's so damn many of them they're loud as shit.
>Like Homestucks
You only ever hear the crazy ones because the sane ones know to keep their powerlevels hidden.

>>7819771
>But, christ, at least I don't wear it "proudly" like a badge of honor like I'm seen furries do.
Have seen worse at Tumblr and they all were very far away from being furries.

>>7819788
I've met one dude at a con who was cool as hell and I will love him forever, but one out of... a quabillion there.
Not worth finding a sane one in a sea of horseshit.

>>7819793
Tumblr girls can jump into a lake of fire.
I'm talking about "TRIGGER WARNING" girls.
Fuck that shit.
When they say they have "triggers", they're referring to things that make them uncomfortable.
Fuck them and their "special" self-diagnosis.
Or even their REAL diagnosis.

I had a panic attack in the grocery store and had to literally leave my cart there and try to walk out calmly. Why? Because they were changing the whole goddamn store around and 3 people had asked me if they could help me with anything when usually I am left alone.
It was too overwhelming and I had to get into my car and cry for a half hour before I drove the fuck home.
But you know what? In order to fit into society, you CAN NOT expect others to cater to your quirks and insecurities, or even your issues sometimes. Because the world isn't fucking about you.
You need to either adapt or find something the fuck else to do if you can't put up with it. Fuck people who get "triggered" and then freak out on whatever helpless person unknowingly did it.

Know what I did after my freakout? Went to the same store a a day or 2 later after I had calmed down, and went finished fucking shopping.
Because I've decided I'm not going to be a degenerate piece of shit who blames my problems on everyone else. I need to immerse myself and work to become someone who can deal.

>/sage for OT
>sorry for the fucking rant

>>7819724
I think this is the end-result base for the pattern posted by >>7819763

>>7819724

How would one go about making eyes like this? Also, where do you see?

>>7819816
I usually hate toony faces but I really like the proportions on that one.

>>7819883
Click the tutorials, one's for eyes. You see outta the pupil.

>>7819182

>>7819887
They look like resin eyes though. I didn't think you could see through resin with a painted back.

>>7819899

>>7819909
Dude... check >>7819899 right above your post.

>>7819883
For that particular one, you can kind of see the mesh between the eyes where the vision is

Generally with suits with eyes similar to this, you see out the tear ducts

>>7818990
This fucker is my favorite. His work is so good, the first picture I saw of his work I thought there was taxidermy involved.

>>7819592
I really like cutesy designs like the blue one here. I love that head shape. Never had a fursuit, but this is the sort I'd like. Either that, or hyper-realistic.

Where would a first time suiter even begin? It's so overwhelming looking at the tutorials. Would it be smarter to make a partial the first time?

>>7817564

I support this and would love to see it happen!

>>7818924
is...is that a Lackadaisy cosplay?

>>7819984
Yes start with a partial. Move onto halfsuits and fullsuits when you're more confident and know how to work with a ductape dummy. Also for hyper-realisim, people sell resin head blanks so half the work is already done.

>>7819712
It's still a work in progress. If you want to offer critique, go ahead. Bare in mind, I don't want it to look like a clean cut fursuit - I think Digimon should look a bit scruffy and gnarly.

I will be working on trimming and dry brushing the fur and replacing the tusks.

I've always really wanted to Like AutumnFallings, but... I dunno, who runs it, Bella?
I think she's a right cunt, so it kind of ruins it all for me.

>those cute-ass suits, tho.

>>7820900

>>7820902

>>7820900
Deets? Havic is one of my favourite suits ever.

>>7821651
I've just seen her in streams and she seems like a cunt.
This is the only one I've caught, though.

Granted, furries can be annoying, but sheesh.
Not her first outburst either.

Is Havik Bella's suit?

>>7821679

>>7821680

>>7821691
The private Twitter of their owner would be https://twitter.com/komyusizu/ btw

>>7821705

>>7821711
She got quite a bunch of other fursuits too btw.

>>7821722

>>7821732
Basicly Loki WIPs.

>>7821734

>>7819984
For my first suit, I bought a foam head base
Then at least if I fucked up the furring part, the understructure wouldn't be awful as well

The next time, I tried carving my own base, then for the third, I used a resin blank. It was a nice progression to build up the needed skills

>>7820924
Okay but WHY would you make horns out of fabric when there are plenty of lightweight alternatives?

>>7822495
The better question is what is a foxdeer.

>>7822495
So they don't get broken in transport/poke someone?

I've seen it used in quite a few popular toony suits (Telephone, for example) for those reasons

>>7822495
>>7822883

I'd assume it's to look more "plushie" to match the aesthetic of the character, too.
But the breakage concern sounds super plausible, too.

>>7822500
Probably a fox-deer hybrid character.
>yeah?

Anyone have any good patterns to share? Sewing some cute tails and paws sounds like fun, but I fear wasting a bunch of fur to trial and error.

>>7823541
There are hardly any patters that you can't figure out yourself, you only draw the shape of the tail from the sideview on paper, trace it two times on the fabric, sew the pieces together, stuff it and done.

I like furries.

I'm trying to plan out making a Gloomy Bear costume for Halloween, but I don't know what to do about the body so it won't look so baggy and loose, especially since I'm thinking of using minky for the surface. I like the look of >>7818401 so I wonder is it a mix of sandwiching foam between the minky fabric and some netting?

Pic related, I can't tell if there's someone wearing it or not because the body seems really skinny. Plus I'd make a smaller head compared to the picture.

>>7817664
Fourthing (fifthing?) wanting to make a felyne suit. Ever since I started buying the Airou merch, I really want to do one of these style now. They just scream mascot suit. I'll probably go for the guild receptionist since that was the first plushie I bought of them, but I do want to try one of the armor sets. I'm just worried about proportions. Their limbs are really thin in comparison to their body/head and they're sticks basically so I'm thinking about how huge the body and head would have to be as a suit.

Friendly reminder if you plan on making a quadsuit - use padding or you're going too look unnatural and creepy. You can't just make it like a normal fursuit with stilt arms, it won't look any good.

>>7817519
I hate you for posting this because now I have sock paws on my mind (but really, thanks. Just helped me with an issue I had).

On the topic of sock paws, I'm going to experiment making some and I was wondering if there are any alternatives to sculpting with foam. Since these are just to get the method down, they don't need to be durable or anything. Do you all think if I sewed the shape of the toes and stuffed it really firm, I could glue those onto the sock instead of foam?

>>7824888
I suppose that could be an option.

However, it would be cheaper and simpler to use foam for the construction. Why try to bypass it using a more frustrating and complicated method?

You can also use a sock and glue the foam toes to it if you you want to end of carving and/or foaming the who foot.
FYI, that's how these feet are made.

>>7824926

>>7824927

>>7824736
Of course!

I have the padding design sketched and saved, so hopefully I can avoid quadsuit nightmare fuel.

>>7824926
I know that's how they're made and ideally I would do that, but the only foam I have on hand are craft foam and that packing foam that looks like upholstery, but isn't. I do, however, have a ton of fabric and polyfil. To be honest, I just don't want to make that trip for foam and it turns out sock paws actually won't work for what I need. Rather just sacrifice leftover fabric. If I like how the demo ones turn out, I'll be going the foam route. I was just curious if I had other options. Thank you though!

>>7824946
If that's what you want to do, go for it!

Good luck with your paws!

I feel like this suit would be a close actuality of what actual anthropomorphic animals would look irl.

>>7825045
ugh I want a realistic looking head like this, but for a cat

So, I'm making digitigrade satyr legs, and am at a loss as to what to make the hooves out of that's durable to walk on. Most sites suggest wood, but I'm shit at whittling, so I was thinking of layering foam and applying a few coats of rubber to it. Or a few coats of rubber over polymer clay.

Any ideas?

>>7817456
>>7817681
Beastcub did a panel on how she makes her suits. Her quadsuits really are top notch, and she talks about how to get the jointed front legs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-lqwJFXANk
Her normal heads usually have these weird marionette jaws, though :/

>>7825538
Are you making padded legs with flat footed hoof shoes, or trying to do a cut-off heel hoof shoe like pictured here?

This is what flat footed faun legs can look like. Chunky and cartoony, but more comfortable. For cut-off heel style hoof shoes, check out /ChaosCostumes on Facebook. She's one of the few people out there who makes and sells them on the regular. The tan and black pic I posted was a set I made for a friend of mine. She looked fabulous, but her feet and calves weren't happy about it.

>>7825538
>>7825553
Another anon, but I'm trying to make the cut-off heel type. I heard resin might be an option?

>>7825580
Yes! Some people have used urethane rubber, but I have had luck with resin. I used Smooth Cast 65D from Smooth-on because it's what I had on hand, but Smooth-on sells some stronger resins. I kinda over engineered my pouring in an attempt to lighten the weight, but these suckers were still about a pound and a half each. I wrote a wall of text over here, but I can answer any questions you have. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1364447/ I gotta note that I've only ever made one pair, so take anything I say with a grain of salt.

>>7825525
Like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXHrWanwhrQ

>>7825580
As much as I hate recommending them, DreamVisionCreations sells >>7825553 these hooves. They're resin. Try looking into that.

>>7825857
Nah dude. The hooves pictured there are solid resin blocks adhered to the platform of a shoe. The product that DVC sells are flexible foam caps that you glue over the toe of a shoe. I suppose you could use DVC's hooves over the toe of a platform stiletto, but casting the solid resin block gives you a height boost and a clopping sound when you walk.

>>7825580
Someone linked this place in the last furry thread and I found it helpful if you want to make some out of paper mache.

http://clipclopcostumecraft.webs.com/hooves

There were also a few more links, but this was the only one I saved. There were also some neat instructions for some crazy stilts if you're into that.

http://clockworkcreature.tumblr.com/post/87243819927/feet-i-would-have-victoriously-declared-all-of

>>7825076
any idea who made this? Google brings up nothing

>>7821711
what type of foam is that?

>>7826062
not that anon and definitely not the maker, but I'm assuming it's charcoal foam. The same foam that is used to make custom padded cases for things like guns and cameras, or for sound deadening. You're really not limited by the type of foam you can get a hold of. Plenty of suits are made with the green stuff from Jo-Anns, though shopping around online will save you big bucks in the long run.

Pic related, it's a head by Wild-Life made with Jo-Anns foam (I am assuming it is; I haven't seen that hideous green sold anywhere else)

posting more WIPs because I love that shit. This head was made by henrieke-g and posted on tumblr.

>>7825553
Any idea what the layers between the shoe bottom and the hoof tops are/what their purpose is? It looks almost like foamcore, but I have no idea why it's there.

Also, resin sounds like it would be a pain to walk on, vs. the flexible rubber - thoughts from anyone who's used both?

2/3

3/3 and a video of the finished product: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcc8YEIii8U

It's interesting how this was constructed. Looking at the glue seams, the layers are all parallel to each other.

>>7826093
Are you asking about the image of the cut-off heel shoes? The white layer between the shoe's nude outersole and the black hoof is the rubber platform. I used these exact heels to make these shoes, but I tore off the orange pleather to expose the platform's core. When you pour the liquid plastic into the mold, you sink the platform into it. The liquid plastic surrounds the platform and hardens, creating a super strong bond.

I can't speak about the comfort of rubber vs. resin, but no matter what you do it's going to suck because of the weight and lack of heel support. Furry Echo made some hoof shoes with rubber. You could ask her. Something I want to point out is that in her video, she has to duct tape the shoe to the mold. This is because urethane rubber takes at least a day to set up. However urethane resin takes minutes, and you can sit there holding the shoe with your hands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GttgTFWU5uw&list=UUyyWM4ScKdlzdS6OgZdEUiw Her singsong voice drives me up the fucking wall, though.

>>7825553
Cut off heel.

I was thinking maybe I could cut up a welcome mat, seal it together with glue and wood filler, then coat the whole thing in black rubber. Too much?

I prefer not to purchase them if I can help it, feels like I should be able to make them with less than $40 of materials.

>>7826331
If it helps, here's a prototype that my boyfriend and I were working on a while back. It's a wood block screwed to a stiletto. These shoes were very cheap, so the sole had a lot of flex to it. Fiberglass helped to stiffen it up. We never got around to finishing it because we're lazy assholes. There's soling material bought from a shoe repair store glued to the bottom.

>>7826331
>>7826409
dammit forgot the picture.

>>7826412
Personally, what is the best type of shoe to use?

>>7826478
Anything with a little ankle support. A stiletto heeled bootie would be perfect, but a heel with an ankle strap would work, too. Get something that has a stiff sole. If they are uncomfortable to wear plain, it's only going to get worse when you modify them.

>>7825538
Not sure if these would work for the cut off heel type shoes, but Dream Vision Creations sells some hooves, which I've used for satyr legs before

>>7826412
Reminds me of these shoes I've seen: http://www.punitiveshoes.com/database/ballets/ascotiron.shtml

Not implying kink, but there are people producing these out there that may be easy (but probably more expensive) to mod, but come with a built-in horseshoe for that clopping sound.

>>7825857
>As much as I hate recommending them
What's wrong with them?

>>7825549
That was super fucking helpful.
I have confidence in my abilities now!

Now I just need to finish the rest of my commissions so I can start on this project.

Shit.

>>7826788
I think it was mentioned once before, and I think the complaints were:
- sometimes parts comes flawed
- shitty customer service

The same poster recommended "Yeep" for parts instead, but I'm not sure Yepp sells hooves.
It's been a while since I've checked.

>>7827322
>>7826788
People hold them to really high standards because they're the biggest seller of fursuit parts in the community, but you've gotta cut 'em a little slack. They're just a couple of 20-something girls churning parts out in their garage, learning the hard way how to run a business. Some of the inconsistent quality comes from trying to hire help. The only sour experience I had was when my roommate ordered a bunny blank and it was WAY too small for his average male sized head.

>>7827335
C'mon Anon they're pretty fucking rude sometimes. If you've got a name that big you've gotta learn to be professional and not stick your foot in it every time you post a journal.

>>7827335
Oh, I didn't say I don't like them. Someone else it this or the last thread did.
Like you said they're just a couple o' people making parts out of their house/workshop/garage/whatever, so I can't be too mad when there's small flaws or bubbles. It's not like it's factory produced, so I can excuse it.

I think I got a second-hand blank that was made by DVC specifically for the sake of making a mask for my SO, but, as you stated, it was far too small for his dude-head. It didn't even go over his forehead.
So I feel ya'.

>>7827345
TL;DR we're not saying you copied our blank but you totally copied it even though it's just a horse.

>>7827345
>>7827349
Honestly I thought that whole thing was blown way out of proportion. *shrug* I still like Flurrycat's work, I'm just assuming this was all Ciara's doing.

>>7827349
Did... did you even read that, anon?

>DVC is selling a SGS horse blank
>that was sent to them from a person claiming SGS copied their horse blank
>DVC confirms it does look similar, but it's just a horse blank

However, I am disturbed by the unwanted critique in >>7827345.
>It's not up to *our* standards
>FAULTY!!

That's kind of shit.

>>7827369
I'm still not angry! They are comparing SGS's blank to their own blanks, so people who've purchased DVC blanks in the past know what to expect. The "not purchased as faulty" can be read as that it is up to the original maker's standards. And as far as the horse copying thing, they were saying "this looks similar to one that we made, so if you wanted our horse blank this one will work." If they were salty about SGS copying them, they would have done something a long time ago. People have been white knighting for DVC about the horse blank for a while.

>>7827369
Though I will give you that selling a blank that was given to them to inspect is pretty rude. If it were me, I'd just throw it away and not say anything about it.

(self sage 'cuz I'm just adding onto my previous comment).

>>7827386
>>7827418

Honestly, I guess it's actually not that big of a deal.

It can be taken offensively or not.
Furries always be blowin' things waaaay out of proportion.

I guess if you think that's a reason to boycott, more power to you.
I have no opinion on it at this point, really.

More OT, though:
>mfw I secretly kind of like plushie suits

>>7827552
wrong pic, dammit.
More like pic related.

The heads by winfox are the only female toony ones I like, I am always amazed how small they are.

>>7827614
They're adorable but look crazy hard to breathe in.

>>7827709
Thought so too plus the maker is a man so I imagine it being very tight fitting that it gives the illusion of a small female head proportion wise.

>>7827614
loooove the look of these, they're so unique!

>>7829422
there has to be a better way to do front legs of quadsuits without the ugly overlap of the sleeves to the stilts. It always stands out and breaks the illusion. Maybe making the stilts removable so the legs can be sewn into one piece and still be washable? It's just a pet peeve with many of the quadsuits I've seen.

>>7829422
That Absol's face is horrifying

>>7829422
the Absol is horrifying

What do you guys recommend for avoiding that fur is getting frayed out? I have this problem with the neck piece of a fursuit head because I can't just use seams for that, the needles break because of the thickness of the fur.

>>7821691
>>7821705
>>7821711
I would kill for a chance to watch all of ther super cute youtube videos again, such a shame they wiped it.

Apparently there's an event in Japan now called メス会 that exclusively for kawaii female fursuits.

I dunno how many of these are actually female underneath the suit, if any, but the suit character at least must be female.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89SOltKhLLg

>>7819763
>>7819819
I'm going to be putting that exact pattern together later this month, hoping it turns out half as nice even.

Does anyone know where someone could find a pattern for this design?

I have something close to it, but I'd rather try and do it right.

Japanese suiters just getting craftier and craftier. This one actually blinks.

>>7831391
Shit man, they aren't even traditional fursuit eyes, they're digital screens controlled by arduino, playing blinking eye animations at set intervals.

http://gentou.wordpress.com/

Fucking next level suiting, man.

>>7831391
>>7831396
>SHYEET! Gotta step up my game.

I'm making the assumption that they see out of the red part on the front, then?

>>7831343
There are hardly any female fursuiters in Japan, the only known ones are xpigux, Qiqi, Girlieginger and Nana (the pink haired white wolf in this vid). The purpose of the event is actually mainly making photos for a lesbian yiff photobook, posted some of the photos in the last thread.

>>7831391
Nothing new, people have been making blinking eyes since ages but they are not common because of the bad vision+air flow. It was actually somebody american who first made some for his kigurumi head but not ones made with a screen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-3K-Bsl838

Tashiro Yu's old Tirol suit.

>>7831698
>The purpose of the event is actually mainly making photos for a lesbian yiff photobook

GODDAMMIT FURRIES!
I just want to look at something cute and nice for a change without feeling bad about it.
Fuck.

More Laki because ffffffffuck.

>>7833194
Well, most fursuit-only events have strange purposes but then again there are hardly any besides in Japan, normal furry cons are not different than any other con just with the difference that the focus is anthro characters.

http://beetlecat.livejournal.com/188117.html
In the case somebody ever wants to dye faux fur.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkK3jB899gY
His suit looks so strange outside of photos but I think it is the laack of a well-shaped neck.

>>7839698
I think it's because it looks like it has blow-up doll lips.

>>7839698
Looks like the life is fading out from it at the beginning and the women are laughing about it haha.

>>7839727
That too, I always wonder what his heads look like under the fur because I know he says he uses some kind of clay at his tutorial but the mouth looks like a kigurumi head one.

>>7839750
"It's dying! Bru ha ha!"

On a more related note, I'm making a pre-made bat suit, and I'm SUPER fuckin' stoked about how it's turning out!!
I just hope I don't get a slew of fake bids and end up having to relist it.

Fuckin' Furbuy....

I'm wondering, I have the design for the full thing to have the wings attached more near the knees/ankles.. does anyone have an opinion on where I should attach them? I commonly see wings attached at the hips.
As long as I make them large enough, hopefully it won't affect arm movement and mobility [I hope].

>suit in pic isn't made by me

>>7840897
It looks good how it's attached in your picture, near the hips. I think it will be a lot of fabric folding and flapping around attached near the ankles and could cause walking difficulties

>>7840906
I think it's because the legs are plantigrade, though.
I wanted to implement a drop-crotch digitigrade look. I dunno.

Pic attached at the 2 options with wings attached on the calves.
Thoughts?

>>7840919
I like both lol I can't decide because I really like the drop waist and hips it's so cute but not sure because in your pictures I'm leaning towards the left more.

>>7840927
Dude, thanks! That actually means a lot to me.

I'm probably going to make it a ladder-type auction and let the buyer decide what they want.

How would it be a good way to build a base for a Teddie costume?

>>7840919
Dropped crotch looks better and cuter.

All of you are disgusting

>>7841394
Take a gander at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYgp9G90Meg
Hope it helps!

>>7841680
I want to do the drop-crotch for the sheer challenge of a good execution and because I don't see enough d-c suits around, but I wouldn't mind doing the one on the left, either.

>sloth stuffed animal

What kind of animal bags should I make?

A couple anons in the last thread wanted cat bags, but what breed, coloration, etc.?

>>7843413
I think light colored cats would be the most popular I guess, at least they are the most sold ones at the popular cat arts by Jetoy.

Can I /r/ some good quadsuits in profile? It seems like a lot of the awful ones I see suffer from the distance between the front and back legs being really short and throwing off the proportions of the suit. I'm not sure if you actually -can- get around that or if the nice quadsuits I've seen have just used creative photography to hide that.

>>7846234
I think there isn't much that can be done when a person got a short torso.

>>7846234
It's actually an easy fix if you know animal anatomy. You have to pad the front area/chest/shoulders forward, and the butt needs to be padded greatly back, and sloped down. Most people greatly underpad their suits, looking like an emaciated animal with no thigh muscles. And don't fuck up the animal ankles. Legs are not lightning bolts, think 's's.

>>7851724
shave your fucking fur oh my god

>>7821655
havik belongs to bellas ex
i guess havik and autumnfallings/aj are dating now
not sure if bella still lives with them/participates in making fursuits alongside them, though.

>>7852296
i was wrong
i guess bella is autumnfallings/aj.
but yeah havik belongs to someone else.

>>7852267
I think it is more a brushing issue than the fur being too long (or it is just bad fur that only goes in wierd directions).

>>7852267
>>7854000

It looks like it's both.
Too long + the pile is going in the wrong direction.
Ech.

I LOVE shortpile suits!

My only issue with them is when people sew it and the seams are super obvious.
This skin-tight one is gorgeous, though.
Fuckin' love it!

>>7857037
I'd honestly prefer a more form fitting suit to make wearing things over it easier.

>>7819910

Is there any more to this? I'd like to see how this person goes about making tails.

I'd like to cosplay this guy someday.

>>7857037
Seams can be hidden with using the Henson Stitch...

>>7857649
See the posts starting from>>7818951

>>7857654
I actually used that before, but it's not great for suits that are going to be withstanding a lot of use.
For heads, it's okay, because you're not actively moving it, you know?
But bodysuits, it's being stretched and moved and actively used, so it's not the best to be used. If a seam pops [I use heavyduty thread anyhow], the whole thing will just unravel, due to their being very little enforcement because you don't want to muck up and make there be visible knots and seams.

>>7857655

I read the whole thread. I did see a couple related tutorials, but unless I'm blind, that particular artists tutorial skipped right over it.

I'm considering secretly buying a tight-fitting, detailed female suit like >>7827614 so I can get my friend (who absolutely hates furries) and put him into it when he's asleep. He'll wake up thinking that something's not quite right, and he'll get the shock of his life when he looks in the mirror. Good idea or not?

>>7858050
We unanimously think this is a good idea.

Please spend 1k to 3k on a suit speicifcally for this epic prank.

>>7857722
Because making tails is easy as fuck, you draw the sideview of the tail on paper, trace it two times on fabric, sew them together, stuff them, add them to a belt and done.

>>7817564
>that awkward bump behind simba's head

>>7859000
Probably a shitton of animatronics.

But, yah, still awkward.

>>7858050
I'm assuming you're going to drug him because you don't exactly just pop these suits on

How much foam and fur are approximately needed for a kemono style head? I want to make a partial but where I live foam and fur are quite expensive and I have no clue how much I need.

>>7859340
The only difference between normal fursuit heads and kemono ones is the eyes, everything else is made the same way. I needed 1/2m fur for my whole head with ears and neck, how much foam you need depends on how thick it is.

I'm seriously thinking about doing fursuit commissions as a way of making some extra money. I'm not a furry in the slightest, but I really enjoy the challenge of making fursuits. I like making them, furries like spending money on them, seems like an idea to make some pocket money.

To the people who do commissions, how on earth do you get started? How do you get your name out there and your first few customers? What sort of business is it to get into?

>>7859354
I don't have a slightest clue about how thick I'll need to make it. I saw some foam of 5cm and 7,5cm thickness today. Would those work? How much do you think I'll need?

>>7859451
Just think about how many foam plates you need to cover the height of your actual head, then add how much space you want/need inside the head and about 2-3cm for the "skull".

I'm so happy I can ask you guys and not try and blunder on LJ fursuit comms.

I'm making myself a werewolf partial for Halloween using a blank resin head my friend made. I'm leaving the muzzle/face/forehead unfurred to give it that hairless face look. For whatever reason I was thinking, is it safe to paint it with acrylics? Especially on the inside of the resin (I just wanted to paint inside the mouth dark pink so it wouldn't look weird if I can get the jaw to move with my chin) where I'm worried about fumes.
And I feel like I've heard someone say before not to use hot glue because of fumes, because I need to glue the teeth in there, but I could be completely mistaken and mixing it up with another type of adhesive.

Since I'm only going to be putting fur on the outside of the face and the neck, can I just hot glue it straight into the mask? I haven't had luck finding any picture tutorials about attaching fur to a resin mask.

>>7859509

Fa/tg/uy here, acrylics won't be a problem as long as you give them time to dry. It may smell a bit, but provided you paint somewhere with a good airflow and let it dry fully before you wear it you'll be fine.

Same with hot glue, I've worn heads that had the fur stuck on with glue. Do it somewhere ventilated, and only wear it once it'd properly dried and aired out.

>>7859509
You still will have to seam the fur pieces together tho before glueing, otherwise you will have some ugly gaps on the head.

>>7824934
Holy crap! I thought that was an actual bear there for a second.

>>7861837
Yup. I just wasn't sure how to do a partially-furred head.

>>7861923
Holy shit, you're right. God, I thought it was a real bear from thumbnail too.

>>7861923
>>7862201
Cool as fuck, right?

The realistic suits are the ones that got me over my fear of fursuits in general and got me interested in building them.

You don't have to be a creepy furfag to think suits can be cool.

Here's Radywolf's wolf quadsuit!

>>7859407
>furries like spending money on them
From what I've heard, they don't though. Furries will try to jew you out of your self esteem, and will offer you less than the work you put into making their stupid suits.

>>7862256
Fursuit-maker anon here.
1000000% true.

You end up roped into making ridiculously ugly, boring, and/and stupid suit designs that you absolutely HATE working on because A). the end product will look like complete shit in your portfolio for no fault of your own, and B). you just really fucking need the money.

The amount of people asking me for serious quotes but not having a single cent to their fucking name also make me seethe silently.

"Haha! I'll save up and message you in a few months!"
BITCH, I DON'T NEED MONEY "IN A COUPLE MONTHS", I NEED IT NOW!
Also, they don't fucking come back.
Ever.
I get asking for a quote, but when people say "I want a suit!" then are shocked at a 500$+ pricetag when it's CLEARLY state in my pricelist on my page, it gets old pretty damn fast.

Also the people who keep tabs on EVERY website you're on when they commission you: Twitter, Tumblr, Skype, Facebook, FA, DA... whatever.
I have learned to have accounts all under different names [I used to use a single username for pretty much everything] to avoid people pestering the shit out of me every single waking moment.
It got so bad, I no longer offer Skype to customers.

I've had a couple good customers, but you never fucking know.

If you enjoy being: toyed, belittled, haggled with, bitched at, accused of "stealing mai character/design", and a slew of other random bullshit, do it.

The reason I still do this?
I just love making suits. Every aspect of it.
So if you find you love making suits, stick with it. That's why I'm still in this.
If your goal is to make money from furries, just fucking save your sanity. It is TOTALLY not worth it.

I could tell stories enough to write a very long, bitchy book.

Unfortunately, when I did have money, no one would ever reply to one of my inquiries. I'm working on an anthro arthropod suit, and had previously been wanting someone else to deal with making it. But...

>>7862473
That's odd. Where were you looking? Were you counting on one reply from a specific maker, or did you make multiple inquiries to multiple makers?

What species? Arthropods aren't really common species to request, so maybe you scared off potential makers since most specialize in canines and mammals.

I-I fucked up the bat suit.

I went to airbrush the nose, and it just looks like it's been punched in the face and got a bloody nose.
I'm so upset.
SO says I'm being too critical of my own work and I need a fresh set of eyes. I disagree, but pls let me know.

I don't think I'm overreacting when I say it looks like complete shit.

Left is concept art - unpainted face - then.. the painted result

How bad is it?

>>7863024
Looks really cute and like the picture. I think you may have been working on this for too long and need a step back, otherwise every small mistake is going to look 40000 times worse than it is.

>>7863024
It looks adorable and accurate to the design. Like >>7863045 said, maybe take a break so you won't be as hyper-critical of your work.

>>7863024
why does it have a dog snout? Most bat noses shape downwards, especially in your reference image. The color/size is fine for the face I guess.

>>7863045
>>7863164
I just took a step back and realized that I've been working non-stop for 2 months straight.
I'll take a week-long break soon, after I get up to date on my damn bills.

Thanks, anons.

>>7863167
It definitely doesn't have a dog snout.
The shape and design is inspired by the Pallid Bat.
To be fair, Mickey Mouse isn't really accurate to a real life mouse, either.

>>7863024
I think you could brush out some of the darker clumping and it wouldn't look so off.

>>7863177
Yeah, the whole thing needs brushing, really.
I've just been so frustrated over my fuck-up that I've just left it alone.

I'll brush it out today and define the nostrils a bit more.

>>7863011
Asked several makers, even went to making a posting on a site for movie jobs thinking someone from there might have given it a stab.

And it is a yamne'e (drone/bugger) from the halo series. On the off chance that someone didn't know what they were, I was offering a 3d model file and reference images.

>>7863173
whatever you say

>>7863180
Shit, that'd be awesome if anyone could pull it off!
Although, as fursuit makers work mostly with fur, is that what you'd like this guy to be made of? Fleece, fur, and softer materials? Because that's what fursuit makers specialize in.

If you're not okay with softer materials, I'd check into someone who does more prothetics and Hollywood-esque monsters and ditch the idea of fursuit makers altogether.

Also, as a sidenote, the community have a lot of makers pissing themselves at the idea of getting lawsuits from companies owning these copyrighted characters, so it could be a small reason you were declined.

>>7863182
It doesn't like like a dog OR a bat.
Congrats, anon. You've won.

>>7863194
well it certainly doesn't look like the reference art

>>7862350
>I could tell stories enough to write a very long, bitchy book.

Oh I would love to hear some of these stories.

>>7863187
But it is sortof unofficially sanctioned, as 343, and formerly Bungie have both had other members of a certain group I belong to on stage at cons and releases, and have said how they think it is cool that people use their characters as inspiration for costumes and armor suits.

And most wouldn't be fur, but the same basic steps go into making something like this as they do in fursuits. Engineering wise, most of the problems are the same, heat control, etc... .

I did have a job listing posted on two sites for movie jobs listed under special fx/costuming.

>>7863194
I-I think it's adorable...
I would buy it from you.

>>7863201
I'll give you one of my favorite gems.

>dude says he interested in a suit
>he asks for Skype so we can talk details
>add his to skype for potential sale
>hooray!
>ask about my family
>I do have a small one I have to provide for, and mention it in passing
>"photos?"
>Uhhh, no, I like my privacy and I would never send my kids pics to strangers
>try to talk business once again
>says hes from Russia
>that's fine, I ship internationally
>talks about how he wants to escape oppression in is country and move to mine
>uh, thats nice
>"people don't get my mind.."
>uhhh
>"I just really like cute, sexy children."
>proceed to berate the hell out of him and call him many nasty names
>tried to apologize and begs for me to forgive him
>tell him to kill himself

>>7863207
I'm not scared of that. You just have to be smart about it and not mass-produce and stuff.
If I could figure out HOW to build it for you, I'd offer some services up myself, but I don't think I'd be able to complete the project due to me not knowing what other materials to build that guy.
Would you be into maybe using digitigrade stilts? Or are you looking more into have the digi-illusion through clever use of padding?

Good luck on your search for a maker! I'm actually super interested in seeing this guy turn out!

>>7863209
Oh, you!
He'll be for sale in the coming weeks as a pre-made, if you're interested.
It's cool if you're not!
Just a shout out if you're interested.

>>7863214
The fuck is wrong with people???

>>7863261
>If I could figure out HOW to build it for you, I'd offer some services up myself, but I don't think I'd be able to complete the project due to me not knowing what other materials to build that guy.
It's ok, don't have funds to pay someone atm, so working on it myself.
>Would you be into maybe using digitigrade stilts? Or are you looking more into have the digi-illusion through clever use of padding?
I'm to tall to pull off using stilts, and the yamne'e have normal shaped legs.
>Good luck on your search for a maker! I'm actually super interested in seeing this guy turn out!
Like I said, decided to forgo getting someone else making it. Once I actually have progress, I'll be sure to share pictures.

My Nina TT.TT

My Flareon Miniquad!

>>7864214
> Those soulless eyes.

I'm really wanting to get a bird suit, because not enough people do birds.

But then... how do you do the wing-arms? And bird feet?

I want it so bad, but ugh. I have no idea where to even start looking.

>>7864225
sunnybrook1.deviantart.com/art/Realistic-Wing-Tutorial-P-0-357993857

>>7864214
That's adorable!!

>>7864361

My problem is, I have the exact opposite problem from most people who cosplay/fursuit- a lot of money, but no time. I'm really hoping to commission someone, I just don't know who to look at.

>>7865068
Beastcub is probably your best bet. They've done birds (an interchangable dodo/pidgeon before) and are more willing to work on "odd" things.

>>7865074

Oh wow, thanks! Yeah, I'm really digging their stuff. I'll definitely look into contacting them when quotes open.

Any other good artists to look at? TBH I'm hella new to this whole scene, but would really like to get into it.

>>7865082
W-what scene, the furry scene..?

>>7865082
To begin, I'd take a good look at the Artist's Beware LJ and the Fursuit Critique account on FA. This can let you review potential commissioners and help you go in prepared.
Also, make sure the person is OPEN for commissions, or even taking them in the first place. It's happened to me where I find a good maker to learn they're inactive.

Realistic fursuit wise? I recommend-
•Clockwork Creatures (I think they're still active at least)
•Beastcub (Nice girl. Fursuits are her living so hers are gonna be pricey. She can do toony as well)
•Creatures and Creations (I met them at a con recently. They do really well from what I've seen in person)
•Artslave
•MagpieBones
•Temperance
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Toony wise? I recommend-
•Morefurless (Popular for toony)
•Stuffedpandastudios (She's more suited for toony, but her realistic is good too)
•Savageturtlestudios
•FursuitingLLC
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That's all I can think of currently. I can give more when I recall more. These are people I know who have made birds at least!

>>7865198

Oh man, thank you! Savage Turtle actually did one of the best bird ones I've seen, and was totally who I was looking for! Thank you so so much!

Just got a quote request that had this in it:
>" im trying to find something affordable, considering im poor (literally)!"

Gave her the absolute lowest price listed in my "base price" guide and offered a payment plan.
>"im really sad to say I can't even afford the baseprice atm
>maybe I can trade art?"
>art looks like it's made by a 13-year old just discovering DA

Just.. why?

>>7865791

What the fuck, who does that? I'm sorry someone tried that on you, anon.

Also, link to your page/work?

are there any cute avian suits? A friend of mine is thinking of getting one of her characters commissioned but would rather a cartoonier style over realistic. as if birds weren't hard enough to find.

>>7868307
There's a owl upthread, don't know who made it, though.