/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I doubt there will be a similar-but-better page like this, anon. The way I see it, anyone who even bothers with a page like this will either be a lazy perma-ita expecting to get the style handed to them, snowflakes fishing for asspats, or Mother Hen types with a god complex, and you invariably end up with the blind leading the blind.
/2cents

>>7805890
I was in the group when it first started up, when some of the more decent mentors were active. At the time, it was ok. It wasn't just the mentees asking questions, mentors were encouraged to ask questions as well, so you got to see more "advanced" questions and it also showed that even mentors had questions. Those questions helped me more than other beginners questions really. But then the group became too big, and the better mentors left either because it was too much to handle, or just life in general. And instead of posting on LJ or even here, the mod put up applications on the damn group itself, so you got a lot of Beginners leading slightly newer beginners. Couple that with that godawful mod laylette or whatever her name is, and you've got a recipe for disaster.

>>7805890
let me guess OP you just got kicked out.
most of the mentors are fine and they do it for free you get what you pay for anon

>>7805930
I don't know about that, I'm none of those things but I like the idea of helping new lolitas. Of course, if they're really bad I couldn't guarantee I'd stick with it, I imagine a lot of newbies who'd get involved would be super stubborn itas.

>>7806151
Go to bed Laelette

>>7806200
In all fairness, It's half two in the afternoon where she is.

I was in this group for like a week thinking I could get help on my coords, but the kinds of questions the newbies were asking were waaaay below my level (like think "is a petticoat REALLY necessary???" type shit) and the way the mentors responded gave me a sense that they thought they were God's gift to lolita fashion. EX: Laelette once directed a newbie to "look over her [Laelette's] pictures" to "get a better understanding of how a lolita should look". Among other conceited things that were said that I took caps of at the time but have since deleted. So I never asked for coord help and left after a few days of seeing the same thing over and over.

>>7806151
OP here, I've never once posted or commented on there, I just like laughing at it from a distance.

>>7806366
Yeah I posted that in the cringe thread last night. Still not over it.

Cringe Santa digging up some more! Hoping to get away without a blouse or cardigan, curses!
Perhaps you're in the wring fashion, dear...

The lolita fashion mentoring group is awful. Only a select few people can even answer questions so their word is law, if they answer wrong and are called out privately or publicly, you get banned. It's awful.

Join Big Sisters of Lolita. It has a lot of noob questions but they get answered by multiple people and we actually discuss things.

>>7806466
Thank you! I've been looking for something better!
Something about politely responding to Chanellover-chan but being cold to members trying to answer bugs the crap out of me!

>>7806457
> hate wearing blouses under JSKs
Get the OPs, then..?

>>7806469
It's an ego complex or something. The mentors act all high and mighty as if they know everything and no one else knows anything at all.

I actually like the Big sisters of lolita group because I've felt like I've freely been able to post on there without someone censoring me. At best the mod told me that I should try to reword things since there are young members on the group.

>>7806113
>lot of Beginners leading slightly newer beginners

>>7806457
This one made me sad because the girl was so cute!

>>7806457
>2014
>Oo Jia

>>7806497
>my bust measurement is 130 cm

WHAT. THIS BITCH IS ALMOST AS BIG AROUND THE TIT AS I AM TALL.

Fucking disgusting obese whales.

All the girls in bare feet showing off their rori desu skirts + dresses totally squick me out

>>7806502
The only way I can picture a 130cm bust is something like far right of pic related.

How could anyone like this dress without being blind or an autist

>>7806497
>bust measurement is 130cm
>waist and shoulders are "pretty small"
I bet her waist is still like 100cm at LEAST unless she's one of those crazy women with ridiculous implants.

I FOUND IT
IN THE OLD GROUP
MY FAVORITE POST EVER
OH SWEET, SWEET ITA JESUS

>>7806544
As I recall there was another dress included and it was the most hideous, eye-burning Milanoo shit I've ever witnessed.

>>7806502
>mfw I have a 96cm bust
But I'm a fatty-chan and I know it, I don't try and say I'm curvy or have an "hourglass" shape or whatever. I'm fat and workin on it.

>>7806550
At least you're not in complete denial like this other cow. Keep up the hard work anon!

>>7806502
around 130cm tall? fucking manlet!

>>7806558
On a related note, what is it with fatty-fatty-boombalatties who insist that it's their "hips" or their "boobies" that make them unable to fit brand? I had someone as big as a house (literally had to be 400+lbs, I'm not exaggerating) insist to me that she should be able to try on my burando skirt because "it's just her big boobies that keep her from wearing brand!" I had to delicately tell her no, it would've been awkward if she were socially aware enough to realize I was calling her a landwhale.

>>7806544
>that dress on the left

>>7806562
>men
>on /cgl/

>>7806564
Because if they admitted to themselves that they're actually fat they'd have to think about how disgusting they are to have let themselves got that huge. If it's just their boobs/hips it's not their fault.

>>7806644
get*, not got

>>7806644
Yes because the only way you can turn into a fatty chan is if you eat like shit and let yourself go.
>tfw just now losing weight I gained from taking antidepressants after stopping them a year ago

>>7806658
Did those antidepressants get you up to a 130cm bust, though? Different anon and I understand that some circumstances lead to people gaining weight beyond their control, but if someone is so big they can't fit through a door and take up two airplane seats that is not purely a side effect of medication. Someone like >>7806510 might also have thyroid or other medical issues but you're seriously in denial if you think she didn't at least partially get that way due to bad lifestyle choices. Same with genetics. Yes, there is evidence that some people are (epi)genetically predisposed to more weight gain but no, there is no gene that magically makes someone weigh 400lbs.

>>7806658
You're not going to turn into a landwhale from just medication side-effects.

>>7806673
>>7806675
I'm talking about weight gain in general.

>sage for no contribution but
Fuck me, I'm 176 cm tall, have 96 cm bust and 62 cm waist.
And my hips are 88.
Am I a land whale?

>>7806696
Not with those measurements. It just seems like you have big boobies.

>>7806689
And everyone else was talking about hamplanets.

>>7806550

To be fair, she has like 35% more bust than you.

>>7806703
Nope.
>>7806550

How fat is 165cm tall and 87-74-99?

>>7806716
I posted that and I'm medically obese for my height so yeah. Hamplanets.

How fat is 165cm tall with measurements 87-76-101?

>>7806716
The discussion you were responding to, >>7806564 and >>7806644, is about 400lbs hamplanets. Nobody here gives a fuck about people who are slightly chubby.
Jfc the energy you just put into defensively arguing about your excess weight on 4chan could be spent on a treadmill instead.

>>7806725
What are we, your doctor? You're on /cgl/, you're going to get people telling you to starve yourself until you're below 100lbs and others telling you you're perfectly fine. IMO you sound like you're on the chubby side but I have no idea what you look like and honestly don't really care.

Not sure why anybody's surprised this group is a shithole, considering Laelette Romanov and RambleRori are up to their elbows in it.

>>7806725
If you want to lose weight, /fit/ is the place to do it. But that said your measurements are alright.

>>7806751
Wait, does Lol-ette have a reputation outside of the group?

>>7806765

Yup. She's LSG, or LoliSourGrapes. Don't ask for deets, just look her up in the archives.

>>7806366
>I associate Chanel with elegance
>Radioactive Cupcakes Luckypack dress with white UTKs.

I honestly don't even know where to start? Sarcastic claps for thinking Chanel is classy, even MORE sarcastic claps for being colorblind and tacky enough to try pair black with Whip Magic, or straight-up despair that it's 2014 and people are still wearing that godawful dress.

>>7806790
Oh wow, I now feel justified bitching about her shitty page.
PS what a fucking disgrace of a wig:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDNumDigsxs

>>7806366
This bag is fake. Do you see the interlocking c's? The space between them is too wide. She hasn't posted details of the bag but in the lower right you can see a mistake in the detailing of the piping. A real Chanel bag would not allow this. Unless this is a factory reject, I would have to say it is fake.

>>7806968
I had my suspicions simply based on how tacky it is

>>7806927
Holy shit her voice is annoying. Does she sound like this in real life?

>>7806976
I wonder if she knows...

>>7806646
get get get get got got got got

>>7806996
chanel replicas are so elegant desu

>>7806986
Okay, anon, now imagine this patronizing load of horseshit being read in her voice.

>>7807010
Ahhh shit lol I'm >>7806204 and I made that screenshot, I'm so happy you reposted it because it's even worse than I remember.

>>7807010
Augh!
>Looking through my albums would be very educational. ^w^
dis bitch

I've noticed that the mentors don't always answer very accurately... but if you aren't a mentor you can't reply unless you send an admin the correct answer for approval every time according to the rules? Unless I'm missing something?

>>7807199
No you're exactly right

Now I'm pretty curious.

A couple of friends are starting a lolita mentoring group in our country, and they are going to be quite strict that only mentors are allowed to reply to questions (as far as I understand, I might have misunderstood something or don't remember correctly).

I don't really have much of an opinion on it myself, but after skimming through this thread I sort of wonder what you think about it? I'm starting to get quite a bit concerned what kind of backlash they might get from this now...

They made me a mentor once. I didn't even ask to be one. It was shit.

I vot asked to be a mentor but I refused. I've been into this fashion for almost four years, never been called ita but I don't think I could be a mentor to anyone. Noone should as you should learn your personal style by yourself

I vot asked to be a mentor but I refused. I've been into this fashion for almost four years, never been called ita but I don't think I could be a mentor to anyone. Noone should as you should learn your personal style by yourself

I vot asked to be a mentor but I refused. I've been into this fashion for almost four years, never been called ita but I don't think I could be a mentor to anyone. Noone should as you should learn your personal style by yourself

>>7807204
Being strict about "mentors only" means that if a mentor gets something wrong, or doesn't know something, or has an idea that isn't so great (those things happen to everyone), nobody can call them out on it. It also seems a little arrogant tbh.

>>7807010
Haha, what a bitch

>>7806366
>teehee look at me i have chanel and burando so much moneez desu! XD

>>7806845
Those aren't even proper socks, either. They're bloody trouser socks that aren't meant to be seen. You know, the cheap kind you get at Target in a five pack. You can see the extra-wide band at the top and how sheer they are.

Is anyone willing to point this out on the page? Would love to see the drama that ensues
>>7807722
>>7806968

>>7806968
Aren't the C's also interlocking incorrectly? Isn't the right C supposed to overlap the left on top and the left C supposed to overlap the right C at the bottom?
The C's also look a bit too skinny, but that might just be me.

I had to remove myself from this group a long time ago. It was too hard to read such stupid questions and not respond, since I wasn't a ~*mentor*~. What's the point of that really, who wants advice from a handful of random girls nobody has ever heard of?

>>7807964
One of those girls used to be a big fan girl of oojia, didn't she? Like starting the print groups on facebook for preorders and stuff...

>>7807961
shit, you're right. unless this was mirrored, which I doubt.
please somebody point this out

>>7807989
I was hoping I wasn't right. I really want to point it out on there but my fb is kind of tied to everything and I don't want my rep tarnished by drama. Someone else point it out please!

Also, mention that the metal chain looks too thin and like it's made from aluminum instead of heavier metal.

>>7806999
sage for unrelated but high five for death grips + lolita being exactly my aesthetic
>lord of the game desu or s/t

>>7807316
Pretty much this. I prefer the style of the "Big Sisters of Lolita Fashion" group where both the "Big Sister"(mentor) and the "Little Sister" can answer the question. Plenty of times I have had to stop myself answering questions on Lolita Fashion Mentoring as some of the questions asked are so simple that all it would take is 5 mins of googling.

>>7806999
>>7808177
is it time to teach frilly bitches how to swim?

>>7806562
>manlet

I'm a woman.

>>7806658
lol shut up cunt I've gained weight from antidepressants too, but it's been like 25lbs at most, so I've gone from slightly chubby to pretty chubby. you're not gonna get obese from SSRIs alone.
>also plz kill yourself

>>7806550
96 and 130 is a very big difference anon.

Why not put up a cgl "mentoring-thread"? Only for the brave: posting will most likely result in 50% helpful advice and 50% trolling, but I have the feeling even the troll posts will be more helpful than what's going on in that fb group.

>>7807010
>expert level experience
top fucking kek.

>>7806511
ugh someone was selling this shit at my local comm sales. Worst even, asking for 100 dolars (around 240 in our coin) because "heeey it's old! so it should be worth a lot now, right?" and I think someone actually bought it.

>>7806550
I have a 94cm bust and I'm almost a plank.
I just happen to have big shoulders and ribcage, this may be your problem.
I think it's genetics plus activitys you do when you're growing up. I used to go to swimming races when I was really young and also went to many different fight styles/acrobatics classes.
I'm not a fatty chan but I know I'm a little overweight, but it doesn't come to the chest area anyway, only hips.

I been wanting to get into aristo or vkei but dont know where to start. The girls around me are normies, kinda isolated here.

I'm curious what the mentors look like, if they think they are so knowledgeable and special they better look flawless

>>7808698
Someone posted a video of Laelette, I think she also has few other videos on her channel.

>>7808316
Dood if you think your experience with psych meds is the end all be all you need to ask your psychiatrist.
I've only gained 10 lbs from ssris so YOU must be a fatass rite? No. Shut up and let your doc know you're still projecting issues onto others

>>7808655
oops wrong thread

>>7808750
not exactly, someone might be able to help you out here.

>>7808698
The group used to have an album with pictures of all the mentors, but I don't know if it's still there after they broke up into three groups now.

I got kicked out of the group because I helped some girl find the name of her print and I wasn't a mentor.... yeah. that group is shit.

I feel like Michaela is one of the only helpful mentors, and also coords very well! I've seen some of her coords go in to triple digits on CoF. I feel like more mentors should be like her.

>>7819181
She's also a Bitch.

>>7814888
you gotta read the rules man. all you had to do was message a mentor to ask if you could post, or even message the girl asking! it may be a dumb system, but there is no sympathy for those who don't read.

>>7814888
>>7819577
I have nothing to do with that group, but that sounds like a ridiculously dumb rule. You have ask permission to help someone? That honestly just seems like an underhanded way of letting the 'mentors' take all the credit.

>>7819610
That's kind of the point of the comm, yes. Which is why I never bothered to join (in addition to the fact that I have virtually no patience for people who ask questions that can be answered by Google within the first five hits).

>>7806725
well, i'm 172 with 88-69-92 and i'm a little pudge in places so i reckon you may be a little tubby. not obese but yeah.

>>7820371
>88-69-92 at 172cm
>chubby
pics or I don't believe you.

>>7820371
>>7820383
Anon sounds more skinny fat than chubby at that size ...

Big Sisters of Lolita is a pretty good group. A lot of noob questions, but concrit and actual opinions are allowed. Plus anyone is allowed to determine their own ability to comment.

fb/groups/1527936637425516/

>>7806502
Are you genuinely a midget then? That is like 4'3".

Have any of you actually met any of the mentors on there?

>>7807279
I've been into lolita for 8 years now and having a "mentor" is the dumbest idea possible, I figured it out myself and so can everyone else

>>7820383
>waist-to-hip ratio of .75
ew

>>7820371
Not that anon, but I have very similar measurements to yours (picture related). I would say our measurements do stray between skinny fat to chubby. Though, I don't think you can make a judgement about someones size just by their measurements. It really depends on how you carry your weight and how muscular you are.

>>7822928
>I figured it out myself and so can everyone else
There are some girls who have been following the fashion for years and still can't pin down the aesthetic.


Sage for being off-topic

Thank you!