/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>I spend so much of my free time in pajamas

I think they call this fashion "clinical depression".

>>7804978
shhhh clinical depression can be kawaii too

>>7804978
>wearing pajamas
>not lounging around in undies

>>7804982
I get cold ok plus I have to share my room 75% of the year, so...

We should make depression kei happen.

>>7805048
I'd support it, it would be so much better than that retarded Mahou Kei trend people are forcing atm

>>7805048
Can we call it comfy kei? Emphasis on the under eye bags and slightly messy hair would be nice too. We could have meet ups where we eat cookie dough and watch Netflix!

What about really comfy room wear that is cute and can be worn out in public? Nothing too delicate because chiffon and stuff can snag easily

Depression Kei (meaning depression style), also called hikikei, is currently one of the most popular styles in otaku basements.
The style is based around pajamas, unwashed garments, underwear, and human misery.
It began with the uprising of kawaii culture in the west, and the girls too sad to put themselves together to be kawiiwii.

>>7805048
>>7805057
> tfw it's never cold enough where you live for fleece pajamas

>>7805071
Key aspects of the hikikei style include:

Make up to emphasize under-eye bags and shadows
Loose top-knot and bedhead hairstyles
Socks whose bottoms are stained black from shuffling around on bare floors
Too-large sweaters that can double-up as blankets during comatose periods
An emphasis on 'DIY kawaii' crafts
And the use of junk mail as origami room decorations

Not necessary for the style, but often paired with it include:
Tumblr addiction
Obsessions with kpop boy bands
'Otaku' culture paraphernalia such as hug-pillows, resin garage kit figures, and large collections of anime/manga and merchandise

>>7805060
I'm SO DOWN. How do we make this happen? Should I start a tumblr?

>>7805087
Already on it.
If we can't fit into a kawaii category, we'll make our own and ignore what kawaii even is.

>>7805087
Hnng, please do that would be so awesome

>>7805087
As long as we find a way to weed out the 2edgy4u types who will take the depression bit too seriously and start posting cutter photos in their kigurumis.

>>7805095
drop the link when you have it made. Maybe we should also make a wiki?

>>7805079
Can you post some pictures of this? I can't fint nothing in Google. Sorry for terrible english.

>>7805071
The silhouette can generally be anything as long as it is loose or ill-fitting. It can be sack like, with a worn out sweater dress that started out as a sweater now long enough to cover your cheeks. It can be corpse-in-a-garbage-bag-like with a kigurumi. It can even be slightly scandalous, like wearing a dirty old t-shirt over grey panties and exposed hairy legs. Some flare can be added in the form of chip dust smeared all over your body, or weird little kawaii thing you found on ebay and stuck in your hair because what the fuck else are you going to do with it. There are few strict rules to depression kei, just as long as you look like you don’t give a shit wnough about yourself to look decent, but are decorated with cute things, showing that you still hold onto a glimmer of hope that you will be a better person some day.
If you don't have natural eyebags, you can always smear cheap black eyeliner under your eyes to achieve the insomnia look!

>>7805101
honestly I think the best way to weed them out is to just ignore them. If there are enough of them to create a negative feedback loop the mods will just silently delete them all as if they never existed.

>>7805105
>If you don't have natural eyebags
naturally these are the kinds of things that bitchy hikikei girls will gossip about.

Also while most of the style is limited to ill-fitting oversized type clothing items, princessey night gowns should also be quite allowed.

While great emphasis can be put on not giving a shit what you look like, the focus can also be shifted to self-empowerment, and the perks of always being alone! Since no one will ever see your pajamas in real life, you can let your real style shine through.

>>7805102
http://depressionkeitips.tumblr.com/
I'm editing the theme and the description right now, but here is the page in it's current state.
Do you think maybe leaving it as the default theme would kind of be better?
Like we're to lazy to even change it?
Totally open to any suggestions.

>>7805106
Sounds like a fitting way to moderate. We're too anxious for drama, so we'll make it go away quietly. We can have skype or chatroom meets too!

>>7805113
>Like we're to lazy to even change it?
haha I actually love this idea, but perhaps we should still tweak it a bit.
>>7805114
we could make an IRC and reach out to the various other 4chan based neet/shut-in groups.

>>7805113
Maybe a half-assed theme? Then again, we spend a lot of time online, so it could be constantly changing to fit your mood.

>>7805113
friendly reminder to open up the ask box at some point.

>>7805121
I think our mascot should be Rilakkuma or Pusheen.

>>7805077
It was 95 and humid today in NYC. I thrive on a steady diet of large shirts and nothing else.

>>7805126
Oh whoops, that would help, wouldn't it?

>>7805125
This is a really good point, I think we should vote on that.
Do we half-ass it or full-effort it?

>>7805136
My money's on a kawaii under construction sign and constantly changing half assery.

>>7805136
>I think we should vote on that.
My personal opinion is that currently this is your blog, so you should do whatever you want with it.
If you ask me, full or half ass could work either way. It seems like hikikei will have two sides to it, the half-assed "I just don't want to get out of bed today" side, and the full-assed side where we put an aspie level amount of effort into shit that doesn't even matter anyway.

>>7805140
>>7805142
Hm...
Well, for now it's totally obvious that it's under construction, so for now I'll go with that.

So what do we want to add to the blog?

>>7805147
Maybe we should look to other fashion blogs for advice. I figured we could mostly have inspiration for the hikikei aesthetic, with the option for people to submit their outfits to the page, and maybe a page for blogs who want to advertise themselves as a hikikei blog? (if this makes sense, like a blog circle or something like that...)

>>7805147
Comfy clothes, tv shows, coords, jfashion stuff we've bought while knowing we won't wear it. Recipes for stuff we'll make partially and eat it before it's finished is good too. Kigurumis and other comfy clothes are good too.

If yamanba became a thing, so can hikkikei. As long we don't get too lazy to update anyways.

>>7805147
I reckon I should post an adorable sugoi desu misery kei uguu admin picture, shouldn't I?

>>7805152
In your laziest coord!

>>7805151
Love it! Working on lists right now.
What kind of tv shows do we like?
I like the Office.
Pam seems like a perfect example of depression kei, and Dwight is total huzbando material.

I made a wiki too, for safe measure.

http://hikikei.wikia.com/

>>7805110
Finally my genetic eyebags make me superior mwahaha

>>7805160
I think anything by the guy who did 5cm per second is good for hikikei too, as well as yokohama kaidashi kikou

I think I just fell in love with this thread. Thank you anons.

>>7805160
Princess jellyfish is a must as well as budgety fantasy movies and reality tv

>>7805165
Please tell me that they are doing the macarena.

Also hikikei seems like right down my alley.

>>7805060
I know you're joking but god damn I would so be down.

>>7805173
read the thread. We're not joking. We're going to make this happen with all the energy we have in our frail hikikomori bodies

Little did I know I have been dressing in Hikkikei my entire adult life! Thanks /cgl/!

seriously, we need to start this movement. to tumblr!

Please dont make it disgusting like oh I was too depressed to move so I shit my pants.

Okay, I've taken some pictures to demonstrate the esthetic of Depression Kei!
So kawii wii.
I'm going to edit down the size, and I'll start posting.

>>7805199
I think hikikei or hikkikei sounds more kawaii and asian

>>7805205
I agree, plus depression kei implies something a bit edgier or "poor me" in general. Though I think both are useful terms and if this style gets going probably they will be sister styles, depression kei being the darker and baggier offshoot, and hikikei being a bit more lolita inspired.

>>7805205
I agree, I actually like that better too.

Here we have hikkikei doll in her natural habitat.
Unfortunately, due to the nature of hikikei, there are no candid street shots of hikikei girls.
Note the obvious fear of being seen by another human, as you can see in the background, her only friends are stuffed animals.
Her skin is sallow, and clearly hasn't been touched by sunlight since she graduated/dropped out of high school.
It should be noted that she is probably hunched over because she doesn't want her wild, un-managed bush to be seen.

>>7805211
I can imagine hikikei being more like comfy cute room wear with messy hair and a very casual look like "I just rolled out of bed and put on some ugg boots and a dress"

>>7805211
yeah calling it depression hikkikei would be cool like as a substyle similar to gothic lolita. and the lighter style could have a different name, maybe kawaii hikkikei?

And if you like to dress both ways, it could be bipolar hikkikei!

>>7805214
>due to the nature of hikikei, there are no candid street shots of hikikei girls
wouldn't that mean that all hikkikei pictures would have to self taken? what kind of self respecting hikkikei doll would take photos of herself? She'd obviously be to socially awkward and insecure.

>>7805215
Eyebags are must for any hikikei coord.
Makeup is clearly not encouraged, unless you aren't terribly sickly looking.
Makeup can be used to give you a pasty, unhealthy complexion, which isn't necessary, but is definitely a plus to hikikei.
Also, note that she has forgotten how to smile, as she hasn't communicated with any humans offline since she was in school.

>>7805221
This is a good point.

>>7805221
>what is all of /cgl/

>>7805223
dropped pic, whoops

>>7805221
For the sake of all aspiring hikikei girls in the world, I am braving the horrors of picture day.
For the greater good of all unwashed weeaboos.

>>7805231
you're doing god's work, admin chan. I wish I could contribute but I have literally nothing kawaii to wear. like jeans and t-shirts is all I own that's not lolita.

>>7805231
keep in mind that hatred of human beings, NEETdom, or even being a shut-in are not necessary for the hikikei lifestyle. The only requirement is a love for indoor and individual activities.

>>7805237
sure! though having those would make you a lifestyle hikkikei (a la lifestyle lolita)

>>7805223
Hikikei often features pantlessness, hikikei girls often don't have the will or energy to put pants on.
You will notice that in any top-quality pantless hikikei coord, an abundance of leg hair is present.
If you have lighter leg hair, and fear that it won't be noticeable, mascara can be used to give you the forest-man look you're going for!

>>7804978
Where I live it's associated with the poor and lazy

>>7805240
>If you have lighter leg hair, and fear that it won't be noticeable, mascara can be used to give you the forest-man look you're going for!

>>7805240
Pantless hikikei often features either old, period-stained panties, or the most kawaiiest panties you can find. Hikikei girls know that no one will ever see their panties, but for some reason they have a strange desire to wear adorable panties.
Also note the doughy thighs with lack of any visible muscle structure.
Hikikei girls often have atrophied muscles, due to their tendency to avoid any physical activity.

>>7805261
oh my fucking god

you're really dedicated to his and although that image is pretty gross I admire your dedication.

>>7805266
For the greater good, anon-chan.
For the greater good.

>>7805271
you're taking one for the team. god bless you

>>7805214
>>7805231
>>7805240
>>7805261

I-I thought we were being serious... now I feel embarrassed for wanting to participate.

>>7805271
I love you anon-chan!

>>7805282
I am so serious, you have no idea.

>>7805276
>>7805288
<3

>>7805282
We can make our own anon!

>>7805282
We are being absolutely 100% serious. admin chan is just making come images for a beginners guide of sorts.

>>7805293
Admin-chan, become my gf.
Let us be kawaii hikkikomori waifus together

Remove the gross period stuff.

C...can fat girls be an accepted member of the hikkikei group? as in, the kind who drink soda and eat almost primarily junk food and never do anything physical and thus become fatties?

>>7805134
I live in nyc too anon. Baggy shirts for life.

>>7805306
Embrace the doughiness you have become. keep obvious example of junk food around the picture, emphasizing the shut-in lifestyle that you live

>>7805310
complete with a large soda, unbrushed, unwashed hair, and no pants.

A more well-put-together coord.
Sloppy ponytail, Hello Kitty pajamas, Hello Kitty ears, and big fluffy socks that melt into leg warmers.

Hikkikei makeup. Lots of blush applied above the cheekbones and on the temples plus some blue eyeshadow under the eye. "Just woke up" hair and a cute accessory shoved on top.
hmm?

>>7805261
You've taken it our of the realm of fun and into disgusting territory.

>>7805322
>>7805261
th-there's nothing wrong with being unbrushed/unwashed/etc... but I kind of meant for this to be about fashion rather than flat out laziness.
While hikikei girls will obviously enjoy going around pantsless and disheveled looking (just like how lolitas enjoy wearing non-lolita around the house), the thread (and I thought, the fashion too) is meant to be about cute pajamas... while t-shirts and undies can be a part of this category, it should be cute t-shirts and undies, maybe with cute socks or slippers or something... do you feel me?
Joking around is fine, but before I get more invested in this fashion style I want to make sure I'm not the only one who isn't 100% joking around about wanting it to be a real fashion style.

>>7805339
super kawaii hikkikei! seriously gals, we need to start a tumblr tag for this and start this fashion off.

>>7805339
this is what I had in mind!

>>7805344
I think it could be very serious and I wear the thing described most of the time. Cute but with an air of idgaf.

>>7805293
Are there going to be etsy shops that cater to hikikei admin chan?

Maybe selling unfinished craft projects that are sooo kawaii!

>>7805342
My Snapback isn't even trying to cover my bushy hair!

>>7805344
yeah, I'm the fatty chan. I seriously have no cute pajamas though. When I d, I'll definitely post on tumblr under the hikkikei tag. I do like cute pajamas...

>>7805356
Thanks! I didn't mean to criticize you... I was mainly aiming that at period-panties-chan.

>>7805344
This is how it should be. We should make a real tumblr

>>7805359
I thought it was funny.

>>7805343
Yeah, that pic turned out way more "sultry" than I thought.

>>7805362
>>7805339
Yes?

>>7805362
I've reserved "fuckyeahhikikei" if an intervention is necessary, but it seems like admin-chan might be serious too and just taking a joke too far at the moment.

The wiki is also taking a more serious approach, in the mean time.

>>7805362
http://hikikeigirls.tumblr.com
Im not admin chan and this will be a serious blog. Will finish setting it up later in true hikikei style, but turning on submissions. Submit CUTE stuff of yourselves!

>>7805372
hikkikei*
as in hikkikomori (2 k's in hikki)

>Side pony to cutely keep hair out of face.
>No bra for ultimate comfort.
>Kigu tied around waist for summer comfort and emphasizing hips.

Am I hikki yet? This is what I wore all day... I wish I had dino slippers to complete my coord.

>>7805374
Come on, I posted a serious pic, can you give me feedback or anything?

>>7805378
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hiki
hiki is also acceptable

>>7805378
hikikomori and hikkikomori are both valid spellings. I'll see if I can change the wiki if people want me to, but it seems like >>7805374
already has the tumblr front extra-covered, so I'll probably delete fuckyeahhikikei in a while.

>>7805379
this is super cute. Could be dressed up a little more to take it from pjs to coord, but it's definitely in the right vein!

>>7805380
I said I liked it admin-chan. If you are serious, I support you!

>>7805381
my bad, I looked it up and I was wrong.
>>7805379
cute! maybe have a cuter tshirt? or just a cute pastel color?
Also how the hell do you keep your boobs so perky without a bra? My boobs are in my lap if I'm braless.

>>7805380
you did post a cute one but no underpants is just taking things a bit too far haha.
I dress in this style already most days so it is great for me that I have found other enthusiasts of it

>>7805392
Thank you!

So should I delete my blog and follow the other one?

>>7805386
you should keep fuckyeah. the more blogs, the better. We gotta get this out there!

>>7805397
see >>7805398
your hikikeitips (I think it's yours?) is a good starter blog for beginners, like lolitatips tumblr

>>7805397
You should keep it, but no more disgusting panties okay? Your jammies outfit was great!

>>7805397
It's up to you. Though I agree with >>7805398
Perhaps you could be the "depression kei" side of the fashion, while hikikeigirls could cover another side of it.

I think this is supposed to be a dress, but it looks like pjs to me.

http://tw.taobao.com/item/36873446754.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a1z10.3.w4002-3455492033.43.EFlqG7%2Ca1z10.3.w4002-3455492033.43.EFlqG7

>>7804978
Oh man, that hit close to home.

>>7805401
Okay, I can totally be the beginner blog, should I do shopping links too?
I could look for kawaii-ass sleepwear on ebay and storenvy and junk.

>>7805403
I promise you I didn't post stained panties, that was supposed to be an example of kawaii panties.
I just thought the period comment was funny because every girl has a pair of those nasty panties and winds up wearing them when all the others are dirty.

I'll set up my fuckyeahhikikei to be the blog hub/general info page, which is fitting, since I'm the OP as well.

>>7805408
yeah a shopping list could be useful. I for one would like some plus size hikikei resources. Maybe I'll make a plus size hikikei blog?

>>7805419
do it do it do it!!

So what color scheme do we follow?

>>7805423
done
>http://plussizehikikei.tumblr.com/
I'm so fucking excited for this to be a thing

>>7805430
I don't think there are any strict rules like this.

I'm going to add all three blogs that have been dropped here to the fuckyeahhikikei.tumblr.com blog ring.

>>7805430
pastels? that seems to be the most common/kawaii. for depression hikikei it would be darker, more muted colors like browns and blacks.

>>7805404
Hikikeigirls here, mine is going to be more comfy kei than depression kei. so like cute comfortable outfits that can be worn out in public but have a pajama-y feel to them. Messy hair and minimal or slightly sickly looking cult party kei style makeup. Like you just rolled out of bed looking cute.

>>7805430
Thinking anything can go, it's more comfy materials and cuts than actual color scheme. Pastels would be nice though! I often wear flannel bloomers and an oversized t shirt on a daily basis and I think this would be cute and fitting to the style.

>>7805408
This would be super cool. Look on taobao and aliexpress too.

>>7805261

>>7805444
>comfy hikikei
yes! this is the sweet version name!

so its:
comfy hikikei=sweet styles
depression hikikei=gothic or dark style
bipolar hikikei=mixture of both

Crocs would be acceptable on this fashion?

drawfag here. tomorrow I'll stat on some hikikei fanart

>>7805462
crocs are not acceptable in any fashion.


(just kidding, do whatever you want)

simplicity 2777 with elastic at the waist instead of drawstrings is extremely comfortable bloomers pattern for anyone thinking they will be appropriate for the style.

>>7805462
Yes! And ugh boots and house slippers.

>>7805462
nope. absolutely never.

>>7805462 here. Maybe this type of crocs? they look like slippers, but you can wear them outside

>>7805379
upgraded
>plain tee for kawaii tee with pastels
>comfy accessories like matching socks and headband
>glasses because who wears contacts at home
>headset because permaccessory

comfiness level maxed for me. let the gaming begin.

>>7805472
I think regular crocs would be acceptable too. The holes are cute and if you wear contrasting socks it's like polka dots!

>>7805414
I thought it was funny.

>>7805472
I think as long as they match your coord, crocs would be okay.

>>7805497
Thank you.
but everyone else seems offended by it, so I went ahead to it off the blog.


"Here is a more classic example of depression kei.
After a horrible mistake at Claire’s, the depression kei girl can be seen wearing a ridiculous mustache-themed tank top and matching hideous socks.
Why do the socks have bacon on them?
Why, to match the fried egg necklace of course!
Wear a whole fucking fried egg for a necklace.
Just do it you fat bitch."

>>7805503
fucking amazing. Literally the best description

>>7805503
Is that actually a necklace or is it literally just a fried egg?

>>7805507
Thank you!
>>7805512
It's an actual fried egg.
I do have an egg necklace, though.

>>7805512
not knowing is half the fun

momoko rocks hikikei

>>7805507
Thank you!

>>7805516
This.

>>7805522
Does she post a lot of stuff like this?
Could be good inspiration. heuhueh

>>7805497
>>7805503
No one here likes fun, you should know that by now.

>>7805527
FYI Momoko is the lolita character in Kamikaze girls. I do think this outfit is a good example of the kind of thing we are talking about though.

>>7805203
Just remembered this. Is this Hikekikei to any of you? Or am I alone in thinking it is cute?

>>7805522
>not knowing momoko

We should have a princess in the tower sort of vibe

>>7805542
Holy shit, this is great.

>>7805542
it's kinda cute in a frumpy awkward kind of way.

so are you people actually serious

>>7805657
yes. admin-chan is too, despite having been joking around with some of her photos.

What if depression kei had a sort of paranormal twist to it?
Not like dressing up as a vampire, but like being paranoid about the government (accessorize wit tin foil hats and jewelry) or wanting to be abducted by alines (cosmic prints).

Oh my god finally a J-fash where being fat is okay, thank you /cgl/...I'll get right on this.

>>7805657
If shortcuttothestars can create her own fashion so can we

Hello,

Just an update - I have changed my blog name to hikikei.tumblr.com so as to me less exclusive as this is a style I can imagine males also being interested in. Here is the paragraph describing the style I have written, please tell me what you think:

Hikikei (derived from the Japanese word Hikikomori, which roughly translates to a reclusive person) is a fashion style based on being both comfortable and cute. It is both a lifestyle and a fashion, for people who simply do not want to spend a long time on their appearance, but still want to maintain an air of cuteness. The style essentially consists of pyjamas and roomwear with cute accessories, but the unkempt air seperates it from other fashion styles. The Hiki girl/boy can come in many forms, from the darker "depression kei" to the sweet and pastel "comfy kei". The origins of the fashion are on Septemeber 7 2014, where an anonymous user on the /cgl/ 4chan board requested cute pajamas to wear around the house. Other users identified with this need, and created a fashion style based on the concept of a lazy day lounging about the home. This blog posts advice for hikikei styles, inspirational photos, and lifestyle ideas.


hmm?

>>7805672
/x/tan is totally depression hikikei

>>7805672
I think cosmic prints would go well as it is a pyjama type fashion! This inspired me to make a cut sew op with appliqué stars on it to match my bloomers!

>>7805685
I like it! I have a link to your blog on fuckyeahhikikei.tumblr.com which is the official blog ring for hikikei tumblrs. Once I have my shit together I'll ask that everyone who wants to be listed on the blog ring put a link to the blog ring on their blog.

I might steal some of that description for the wiki (hikikei.wikia.com).
Here's what I wrote on the wiki:

>What is Hikikei?
>Hikikei (meaning shut-in style), also called Depression Kei, is currently one of the most popular styles in otaku basements.

>There are three styles of hikikei:

>>Comfy Hikikei, which focuses on pastel colors, soft and fluffy textures, cute pajamas and loungewear. It is the sweet side of hikikei fashion.
>>Depression Hikikei, which focuses on oversized, baggy, or ill-fitting, more grungy sleepwear and sickly complections. It is the gothic side of hikikei fashion.
>>Bipolar Hikikei is a mix of these two styles.
>Hikikei borrows from a wide mix of styles including Gyaru, Lolita, Cult Party Kei, and Soft Grunge.
>While the Depression Hikikei lifestyle focuses on laziness, apathy, isolation, and sleeping in all day, Comfy Hikikei focuses more on relaxation, self-pampering, cuddling, and bubble baths. Overall there are many different things that can fit into a hikikei lifestyle, as long as it encompasses a love for staying in your pajamas all day and loafing around in your room.

>>7805685
Don't mention 4chan pls, I want tumblrlards to latch onto this

>>7805688
Shit.

>>7805690
That's adorable, please post pics when it's done!

>>7805691
Love it.

>>7805685
*on a cosplay and lolita forum

>>7805693
>>7805698
Have fixed it thank you!
>>7805691
Will do so but I dont know how to use a blog ring so you'll have to walk me through it. Only alteration is that I think all styles should focus on comfort regardless of how something fits (so comfy kei can also be oversized) , but depression kei should have a grungier aspect.
>>7805696
Here are the bloomers! They are soooo comfy although part of the leg is ripping so I need to resew it.
Sorry, I like showing other people my clothes haha

>>7805704
>>7805696
dropped pic
Im going to use a white t shirt fabric for the base and then stars made from the bloomers fabric with yellow embroidery!

>>7805704
>Will do so but I dont know how to use a blog ring so you'll have to walk me through it. Only alteration is that I think all styles should focus on comfort regardless of how something fits (so comfy kei can also be oversized) , but depression kei should have a grungier aspect.

Basically it's just a resource for people to find a bunch of blogs that are related to a topic, and for blogs relating to a topic to promote themselves. To participate in the blog ring, I link to your blog on the hub page (fuckyeahhikikei.tumblr.com) and in exchange you link back to the hub page on your blog. That's all it is, really.
Mine will be a bit unorthodox since I think I will also make posts showcasing the blogs andwhatnot (and if other blogs become inactive, posting outfits/inspiration/etc as well) but the focus of the page will be links to other blogs, and the design will reflect that (like currently, all you see is the links)

And yeah, I guess the ill fitting part applies mainly to depression hikikei whereas oversized can apply to hikikei in general.

>>7805708
cute! I'm excited to see the finished product.

>>7805708
Oh god those are cute, hiki-chan!

>>7805688
Realized I have everything I need to do an /x/-tan cosplay.
/x/-tan may have been the original depression kei girl.

>>7805714
I will do that but where am I supposed to link it? Example?

Now I want these.

>>7805718
you just link it somewhere on your blog. Most people put it in their description. Once I get my shit together I'll make some graphics for you to choose from, like a small sprite or banner which you can put the code for in your description or somewhere on your tumblr layout which will link back to the hub page, so for now it's fine if you don't want to link back to me. I'll send out PMs to all the blogs that are on the blog ring when I do get that together.

>>7805717
I'm putting you under "bloggers" on the wiki since you've already started actively posting pictures of your coords. What name would you like to go by? Sugoi Admin Chan Desu or something else?

>>7805721
Oooo, thank you!
Can you call me Space Bear?
I'd like to get that name out there.

>>7805721
Thank you, Wiki-chan.

So since hikikei is lifestyle for a lot of people, not just a fashion, what other kinds of posts should I make?
Habitats?
Collections?
Hobbies?
I'm always totally open to any suggestions and my ask box is always open.

Which spelling are we going with? Hiki or hikki?
I prefer hiki.
^this is for tagging purposes btw.

>>7805730
I've been tagging all my posts "hikikei"

>>7805351
I'm so ready. If this is a real demand, give me the list of things you'd want to see in an etsy shop!

Wait... if we created hikikei is it still a Japanese street fashion or is it just a generic fashion?

>>7805735
If you're looking to sew/resell garments, everything on this page: http://hikikei.wikia.com/wiki/Fashion

>>7805351
>>7805735
My first (in)completed project!
I call it old hat with little cereal boxes on it.
Since it's one of the first ever official hikikei pieces and demand is so high, i will start the bid at 40 USD.

So does flannels and otks count as depression hikikei? Also..can we just start submitting to the blogs? I started following everyone already but should we post stuff in this thread first?

>>7805743
I would say as long as the clothes are comfy and the person wearing them looks disheveled, it falls under depression kei.
The rules are different for comfy kei.
And I'm ready for submissions!

>>7805743
it seems like hikikei.tumblr.com is already accepting submissions, I suspect hikikeitips.tumblr.com is also accepting submissions.

>>7805737
On it! Am reserving an etsy name. Would hikikeicouture be reasonable? Or is couture too fancy?

>>7805750
I love it!

>>7805750
"The Hikikei Hole"
"Hikikei Hovel"
"The Hiki Basement"

I-I just like alliteration.

>>7805754
>"Hikikei Hovel"
WINAR WINAR CHICKEN DINAR!

Links for taobao room wear:
Master link to all cute/princess room wear:
http://list.taobao.com/itemlist/nvren2014.htm?cat=51740001&isprepay=1&sd=1&viewIndex=1&as=0&spm=a214c.392596.5082478.1.c5rzNP&atype=b&style=grid&q=%E8%95%BE%E4%B8%9D&same_info=1&olu=yes&isnew=2&filter=reserve_price%5B99%2C100000000%5D&tid=0&_input_charset=utf-8

Normal stores
>http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.Hsrojl&id=37629633975&ns=1#detail

>http://slowyard.taobao.com/index.htm?spm=a1z10.5.w5002-7325166474.66.YPV8ts

>http://cccandy.taobao.com/index.htm?spm=2013.1.w5002-8394409251.2.T6hqKS

>http://shop34675057.taobao.com/category.htm?spm=2013.1.w4010-1910564773.2.o96Qdk&search=y

>>7805763
master link to all cute animal/ pop culture roomwear:
http://list.taobao.com/itemlist/nvren2014.htm?cat=51732001&isprepay=1&user_type=0&sd=1&as=0&viewIndex=1&spm=a214c.392596.5082478.5.c5rzNP&atype=b&style=grid&q=%E5%8D%A1%E9%80%9A&ppath=122216507%3A103133%3B122216507%3A3216783%3B122216345%3A29937%3B122216345%3A29457&same_info=1&olu=yes&isnew=2&tid=0&_input_charset=utf-8

>>7805754
hikeki hole is much cuter than hovel!

>>7805763
>>7805765
thanks anon! I'll be adding this to the wiki for sure.

>>7805765
You are a god-send.

>>7805754
I am also a fan of alliteration and was having trouble coming up with something Unless there are objections, I'm gonna take The Hikikei Hole.

>>7805759
Just saw this and now I feel like a jerk

Have taken out: hikikeilife tumblr. What kinds of lifestyle activities would be appropriate? Thinking gaming, crafting, room decor, cute pyjamas, movies, books, comics, shows/anime

>>7805781
Sounds good! Maybe collecting too?
Can we submit pictures of our habitats?

>>7805784
yessir! I will just open it for submissions.
With both of my blogs will be putting everything on queue to go 4 times a day.

>>7805784
Omg I second this!! I wanna see other hiki's perfect lounge spots!

I messed around with a little makeup, but the photos I took are the worst quality. Would anyone be interested in starting some guidelines if makeup is used?
I can try for an eye close up maybe and explain what I did?

>>7805795
Do show anyway
>>7805342
is my idea, it uses a lot of blush across most of the upper part of the face and some blue eyeshadow at the inner corner of the eyes. Was thinking a cult party kei but more natural look would be good.

>>7805788
I feel stupid, I can't figure out how to submit as my group blog instead of my personal blog.
If you want, you can upload this picture anyhow, maybe just drop my name with it if you don't mind?

Also, I have a better camera, but I left it at my mom's house the other day, which is why none of the ones I'm posting look grainy and crappy.

>>7805806
Where the fuck did you get that giant Rilakkuma

lol u nerds

>>7805807
http://rilakkumaworld.com/shop/rilakkuma-super-jumbo-plush-toy/
They're out of the biggest one right now, sadly.

I've got the matching Korilakkuma in the mail as we speak.

>>7805806
Which name you want me to use? Hikikeitips?

>>7805810
Yeah, that would be awesome, thank you!
And also Space Bear, if that's okay.

>>7805811
All done!
We should make a hikikei Facebook group.

>>7805816
Thank you!

I went ahead and made a group page since no one else was.
I'll add whoever wants in!
/groups/276692575860327/

>>7805830
I have joined!

>>7805806
I wish I had a giant something to be my friend...I wish they made monchhichis this big.

You've got it made girl, your my hikikei idol. Even magened to move out of parents house, I'm so jealous!

>>7805830
Requested to join! My profile has like nothing one it, I just made it for lolita updates so please don't deny me!

>>7805841
A-Aw... Thank you anon-chan.
I've been digging deeper into hikidom for years and years now, so I have quite a head start.
I think anyone can turn their hovel into a hiki den perfect just for them if they have enough patience and spare time!
Lots and lots of spare time.
A giant Monchhichis though, you's probably have to commission...
Think that's what the hikikei shop should before?
Personalized giant stuffed animal huzabandos?
because I think that would be brilliant.

>>7805806
to post as a different blog, go to your tumblr dashboard an look at the far right side where there's a menu. at the top of the menu you will see the name of your blog and a drop down arrow on the right and you can use that to select any blog you own. then just post like normal.

also, that picture is great and exemplifies hikikei.

>>7805830
I'll join in the morning when im back on my computer.

I had to go back and put more on because my phone/florescent light combo washed everything completely out. It also made the makeup look pretty uneven so bear with me.

I left my skin naturally sallow and went straight for the eyes. Found the natural bottom of my undereye circles and darkened them, then went above the eye and shaded in parts of the crease that are naturally darkened as well to deepen the eye socket a bit. Then I went over the highlight line in the undereye bag with white eyeshadow. I brushed a slight amount of navy around the bag, but it washed out almost completely. Last I used a couple coats of mascara, focused on the outer corners and didn't use any on the bottom lashes.
Ugh, it washed out so much. I am tempted to post my whole face because those pictures actually show something, but so many conflicted emotions bc 4chan

>>7805845
Giant animal husbendos should be a must!

I've been meaning to buy one but its difficult narrowing it down, taobao has some great options though.

>>7805852
I love it!
And washed-out is always a good thing in hikikei, don't worry about it!

>>7805854
Ooh, we need to make a master post of giant stuffed life partners.
Just because we're hikis doesn't mean we have to be alone forever.

>>7805855
Thank you! I kind of love it too. I really wish I had a better camera now because this is the only thing I've ever wanted to make a tutorial for.

>>7805857
Petition to continue calling each other hikis forever

>>7805852
Looks good. I think the low quality/grainy photos really go with the whole aesthetic but I get how that can be an issue when trying to do a tutorial.
Also, if you have the URL I think you do, I'm ighly amused by your unwillingness to show your full face.

>>7805864
Instantly intrigued. I occasionally post selfies but generally save them for instagram. Unless I've been posted here by someone(which I know of at least once) I definitely haven't uploaded my face here.

So, god forbid, if you had to go outside, what kind of bag would you carry?
Or do you not have a phone or money or anything to carry?

>>7805876
I vote bringing back bottomless barney bags in kawaii fabrics
I also request a fannypack..

>>7805884
Maybe?

>>7805876
A cute shaped purse that is in a cross body style because it is comfortable to carry. This fashion is about looking comfortable and cute so I like the lolita shaped purses because they are fine to carry but dont affect my comfort levels.

>>7805876
I have one of those tokidoki knock offs which would match my pajamas with the garish colours.

>>7805876
I carry a gianormous purse with me, so it fits all my things in it. I always have to be ready when disaster strikes in the outside world and carry everything with me. I also bring ecototes because they help my feeble arms carry things.

Made a purse post!
hikikeitips.tumblr.com/post/96864654994/rilakkuma-comfy-purses-mini-cross-body

The hip hug bag is hands-down my favorite.

Also, I've already got my first hate message! We're a real fashion now!

>>7805916
Beautiful. It's all so beautiful.

I love you /cgl/, never stop.

>>7805916
Post your hate mesage!

>>7805676
Wait what? She created her own fashion?

>>7805934
It's nothing exciting, I expect we won't be seeing any rants until we get more popular.

hikikeitips.tumblr.com/post/96864528919/this-is-gross-for-romanticizing-mental-illness

>>7805060
SO MUCH YES
I'm so down for that mang

So is this fashion gender neutral because if so it's what I've been living my whole life and I have a moomin kigu that I knew I made for a reason

>>7805946
This fashion will last for one week at the very most.

>>7805947
hardly, as a trueNEET this is all i ever wear

>>7805397
Admin chan I think as myself more like a boi how can i still be kawaii as a boi?

>>7805950
Everyone can be kawaii in Hikikei.
It a truly gender, weight, income, and cleanliness-blind fashion.

I've put together a more comprehensive guide to hikikei, tell me what you think!

There are two divisions of Hikikei: Depression Kei and Comfy Kei

Depression Kei focuses more on the general sadness of being a hiki. There is less color restriction in Depression Kei, but colors are often dark.
Common traits of Depression Kei:
Hair: messy, let down, obvious roots, sloppy ponytail
Upper Body: ill-fitting tops (too big, too small, too short), baggy sweaters
Lower Body: sweat pants, pajama pants, no pants at all
Under wear: old
Feet: any sort of ridiculous socks, crocs, ugly but comfortable boots, slippers, no shoes at all
Accessories: chip dust, leg hair, human filth

Comfy Kei focuses on the more rewarding aspects being a shut-in. Comfy Kei colors are almost always light or pastels. Comfy Kei often has many, many layers.
Common Traits include:
Hair: ponytails, pigtails, buns, braids, or let down and very fluffy
Upper Body: fluffy sweaters, big t-shirts, nightgowns, cardigans, pajama tops
Lower Body: skirts of all kinds, ruffle shorts, bloomers, pajama bottoms, generally anything with a lot of poof
Feet: leg warmers, long socks, the comfiest shoes money can buy
Accessories: bows, character hats, scarves, kawaii bait

>>7805947
>implying a guy getting involved means he's somehow more invested in everyone else

Not that I disagree with you. It lasting would mean putting effort in. On the other hand, by it's nature it's pretty low effort so you never know, it might be two weeks.

>>7805958
Who cares, as long as we have fun!

This is the best thread ever I wish /cgl/ was like this more often

>>7805959
You're so god damn cheerful.

>>7805953
I feel like this has potential if you change depressin keis name and differentiate it from being a hobo. Comfy kei just sounds like toned down fairy kei from how you have described it. There should be no depression kei, you make it sound disgusting. The fashion should focus on cute comfy outfits that can double as pajamas but still maintains cuteness and have an air of sloppiness.

>>7805966
Gloomy kei sounds kinda cute

>>7805966
>you make it sound disgusting
Well that's kind of the point, depressed people don't really care about how they look.
It's kind of jokey and kind of not.

> The fashion should focus on cute comfy outfits that can double as pajamas but still maintains cuteness and have an air of sloppiness.

As of its several-hour-long conception, comfy kei has a loose definition. Cute, comfy pajamas fit right into comfy kei.

>>7805966
Oh god I sound like a massive bitch... Did not mean it to come out like that. I think the rules idea is ok but they should be more generalized and no substyles so people can experiment. That is pretty much what I was trying to say here but it came out bad. If you get too specific with the substyles, they just turn into different fashions. Like I said comfy kei just sounds like fairy kei but toned down. And depression kei is slightly offensive. I just think it should be hikikei.

>>7805971
You're fine, you were just frustrated.
It wasn't my idea to have two different substyles, it was suggested by a lot of people, so I thought it would make the community happy.
And since hikikei is basically anything you would wear to bed/around the house, then there are a lot of different possibilities for it, so I kind of think two substyles might be a good idea.
The moper and the dreamer.
They both spend all day inside, but one enjoys it and the other just does it.

>>7805973
Relentlessly god damn cheerful.

>>7805968
Agreed. Should have more of a focus on the shut in side and a darker palette/aesthetic

>>7805976
Rather than focusing on being unwashed/lazy, I mean

>>7805976
>>7805977
Geez, did you guys think I really meant you have to stop washing and roll around in dirt?
I mean if you did, I get why you don't like it.
It was just silliness for the sake of silliness, I guess I should take it out if everyone's taking it seriously.
Sorry everyone.

A-Admin chan ilu
It's not like if i wanted to be kawaii hikki waifu forever with you or anything b-baka
(no srsly i'm so excited for this whole thing)

>>7805977
>>7805976
then make a separate substyle

im staying depressionkei for life

>>7805966
What about mollykei?
short for melancholy kei

>>7805973
I always get frustrated with stuff like this because I am a massive control freak. I just think depression kei could be renamed. Gloomy kei sounds cute! It's not offensive to those with depression (I'm clinically depressed and I was even offended by it, not the name but how i felt you portrayed us as being disgusting and pathetic people who live in their own filth)
I think that you should change your post so it explains what the fashion is (the hikikei.tumblr explained it pretty well IMO, and the wiki. They both seem to be adaptations of the same text but I don't know which came first) and then rather than putting specific items to specific styles that have barely been established, just explained the premise behind the styles. After we get more people into it, the rules could come because they would be based on what has been already created, not just some people playing dress up when we try to figure out what is going on.

>>7805981
When you put in guidelines telling people to be gross to fit a fashion then they will. Especially since yours are the only ones out there.

I think you are awesome btw, just want to share my opinions. Tone everything I say down a few times, I tend to come off very harsh in writing and I'm not sure why. I think it's because I like to be very concise so I just say what I want in the fewest words possible without all of the fluff that could make me seem like a nicer person.

>>7805988
>disgusting and pathetic people who live in their own filth
i find this offensive, just because im disgusting doesnt mean im pathetic

>>7805988
Wait I mean it IS offensive to people with depression. And on a site like tumblr where everyone is batshit insane about stuff like that any appropriation of anything pretty much equates you to being *insert a horrible and oppressive dictator here, can't think of anyone*

>>7805988
Well I'm very sorry I offended you, that wasn't my intention at all. I have actually have clinical depression too, I guess I'm just not really bothered by depression jokes.
I was literally basing the description of depression kei on how I live and dress myself.
It was wrong of me to assume taht everyone who has depression is comfortable making light of it, I'm sorry.
I guess I'm useless here, so everyone who wants to make it into gloomy kei, write up suggestions and things.

>>7805988
I think it should be changed to gloomy kei too because else they're going to glorify depression and shit

Since when is /cgl/ so sensitive? You should be laughing your flat tits off, this shit is funny.

>>7805993
Well, I'm depressed too and it didn't offend me, it as pretty funny actually. If you can't make fun of having some kind of condition now...I mean, it's important to laught t your on problem, right ?

for those midnight chocolate runs

how did this place get so tumblr

im literally laying in my own puke right now

you guys are disgusting

>>7805996
Yeah but we don't want people glorifying depression on tumblr or thinking it's funny ye know.
I'm depressive and not offensed at all I just think it's better if we changed to gloomy kei if that's ok with admin chan

>>7805998
pleanty of layers to hide in

>>7806000
I just want to have fun.
If calling it it "depression kei" means I can't have fun, then I'll change it to whatever you want.

>>7806002
Yeah sure whatever it doesn't matter that much admin chan so do whatever you want.
Let's not be sensitive over it and let's just have fun

>>7806000
>glorify depression
Admin-fag literally posted pictures of herself covered in food and leg hair.
And described herself as like pathetic and shit. How exactly is that glorifying?
It just looked like a depressionfag that was being funny instead of fucking annoying.

>>7806001

>>7806002
DONT CHANGE DONT CHANGE I LOVE DEPRESSION KEI

>>7806005
No no but you know tumblr right? It's all fun but there are some stupid people in there thinking personnality disorders and stuff are awesome.
But seriously let's just not care right now it's fine.

>>7806010
I'm sorry, since when do we care what tumblr thinks?
Adminfag is right, let's just have fun, who gives a shit.

Let us all be kawaii NEETs and hikkis like princesses in their secret towers full of body pillow and giant plushies.
(r)amen

>>7806005
I real depressed person wouldn't even post and attentionwhore about it.

>>7805996
I just feel second hand embarrassment at the retarded admin girl that thinks people are being serious lol.

>>7806014
Are you a doctor ? You do know that their is several way of being depressed, right ? And that sometimes people want to fight it being having fun ?

>>7806015
Anon we are serious.
C'mon let's not shit up a good thread.

>>7806016
>depressed
>having fun
Pick one.

>>7806020
>implying depressed people can't have a sense of humor
You are the cancer.

>>7806020
Oh god anon, even depressed person can have fun for time to time, mental illness is a fluctuating thing.

>>7806021
You're an illogical cunt.

>>7806023
Am I being trolled right now?
There's no way you're serious.

>>7806022
You must be mistaking just being sad for a brief moment from time to time from real depression.

Oh wait, you call both of them by the same name, loll.

>>7806014
>>7806015
>>7806020
>>7806023
This is why we can't have nice things on /cgl/

>>7806024
water
>wet
>dry
pick two

Thats what you're saying. Illogical bullshit.

>>7806025
Do you remember Robin Williams?

anzu is hikikei

>this thread derailing because of one or two idiots

>>7806025
Yeah great, go back to your soccermom medical knowledge 101 and let the thread go on.

>>7805993
Now I feel really bad *hugs*
I have times when I am like that too but it's just when people find out I have depression I wouldn't want them to think of what you are describing as depression kei. It is pretty funny actually I just guess what I'm trying to say is I think you should change the name. Sure we may be like this in the privacy of our homes but do we really want to publicize that to the whole world? You'll get people like >>7806020 who think that depressed people constantly behave like the depressed kei type and then try to tell you that you cant shower if you're depressed or something because depressed people have to be covered in a layer of Cheetos dust at all times (imagines self bathing with cheese flavored soap and mice eating me in my sleep).

>>7806030
Pretending to be happy is not being happy. Who'd have thought???

>>7806028
Dude there is a difference between depression and being suicidal.
Not everyone who has depression sits in a dark room and waits for death all day every day.

>>7806033
Nah, I like it that you're annoyed. No wonder you stay in all day lmfao.

>>7806036
I never said that they did, did I? Putting words into my mouth to pretend you have an argument is cute.

Oh god please shut the fuck up about depression no one cares I'm here to talk about cute hikki shit not medical knowledge

>>7806041
Good thing you decided to include the medical crap to your post, and thereby talk about it, huh?? hahahahahaha, logic suh gud.

I am disappointed in all of you bitches.
We were having a nice thread just for shits and giggles, and then you fags had to start taking it too fucking seriously and get offended.
If you're offended by fucking "depression kei" then you are not suited for this board.
/cgl/ - No Fun Allowed

>>7805691
Not too keen on the "bipolar kei" label, considering I know a few bipolar people and don't find it to be fitting at all. Otherwise great!

>>7806043
Look whos easily offended, the black kettle is!

>>7806039
Well what the fuck do you call having no sense of humor? What else would you do all day if you can't enjoy anything?
I'm dead serious, what can you do if you don't have fun ever at all even a little?

>>7806045
>disappointed
>offended
>the same thing

Are you stupid?

Ok everyone. No more sad talk and fighting. Let's post cute accesories that would be perfect for this style! There is this specific blanket type I'm thinking of that would be good, it is a regular blanket except it has sleeves. I forgot its name. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
They are so amazing, I want one but I got a kigurumi instead.

>>7806046
Shitpost, make other people miserable(heheheheh), do things you don't really like, but do anyway(job), clean, cook, general stuff, yah know?

Just because its not fun doesn't mean you aren't allowed to do it.

Man, you're hilarious, so not being funny or funding things funny means you're waiting to die? No, and of course you already knew that.

Don't know why you think no fun = i want to die. You can live an unfufilling life.

>>7806049
I'm not stupid, but I am a BAKA~!

>>7806052
Guy, there is a super cute hooded towel/jacket with bear ears at H&M home these days !

This thread started off with a legit jfashion theme, a Japanese street photo pic (thus board relevant). Someone made a joke about 'depresion kei' and that person derailed the thread, not the naysayers. That joke should have been giggled about and ended there but someone decided to turn this into their personal self-post thread. This is now Tumblr tier which is great because apparently Tumblrs have been made dedicated to this unfunny shit, so how about you go take your gross slumber party there and have as much 'fun' as you want?
To answer earlier anon, no this not a jfashion it's literally yet another bunch of Westerners throwing kei at the end of something who took a joke too far.

>>7806052
Something like this?
They're usually called cloaks or capes in online shops.

Ok I have a question. Kigus. Do people wear them in public? How should they be accesorized?
I wear mine on a near daily basis but never out of the house.

I would so love to take pictures for this because it's basically what I wear on lazy rainy days indoors but I have BDD so that's not going to happen.

I followed the tumblrs, anyway.

>>7806061
But the person who started this thread said she loved it and went along with the others.

>>7806061
Welcome to /cgl/.

>>7806064
I saw a girl wear one at the airport once. She looked ridiculous, especially since it was sweltering hot.

>>7806061
>no this not a jfashion
This.

They just want a cute title for themselves.
>IM SUCH A GAYMUR LOLZZ

>>7806062
I saw little elephants cape/cloaks too or My melody or SentimentalCircus
Is it like a blanket?

>>7806075
They're too small to be a full-body blanket, but they're usually thick enough to be nice and warm.

>>7806071
I think hikikei has a nice ring to it! I think it's nice for a "dollies day off" type feel, a super comfortable style for lolitas and people who want to be cute but don't want to spend hours to achieve the Japanese street fashion looks. So it's like super toned down versions of the jfashions we know and love, that carry the basic aesthetic but are mildly cheap so you don't have to treat them like you would iron gate or some other expensive item. So you can eat without it being a major deal if you spill. Not this depression kei stuff.

>>7806077
I have a towel from when I was four that is around the size of those posted. I'm pretty sure they are towels and full body items for children, not aimed at adults.

>>7806079
Really? I bought the one I posted a pic of, it fits me nicely. I just assumed it was supposed to be short on you, more like a poncho.

>>7806079
Whatever it's still cute I think it would do nicely to keep you warm while you're cooking or doing something out of your bed

I don't want to look like a weeb but I think cute kotetsu would look awesome as hikkikei interior

>>7806086
>I don't want to look like a weeb
That's gonna be pretty hard if you want to emulate any j-fashions or j-inspired-fashions.

>>7806081
Did you get it from a children's section? Or was it not specified? they are really cute but if it is like that with the hood and too small for the sides to wrap around and meet in front of your shoulders Idw say it's for children. Doesn't really matter though if you like it.

>>7806089
Huh. I guess I didn't really pay attention.
The picture had a grown woman wearing it.
But yeah, I guess it doesn't really matter at this point.

>>7806088
The thing is i'm worried about "omg what will japanese ppl think of meh they will see me like a filthy gaijin copying them when i just enjoy it"

>>7806091
They pretty much think we're all filthy gaijins anyway, don't they?

>>7806092
Then let's just think they're jealous bitter meanies and let's just be cute without a care in the world

>>7806093
I like that.

>>7806090
Can I see the picture please? Can't find it and am trying to figure out what it looks like on adults in case I need to go get one!

>>7806098
How about I give you the link instead?
rilakkumaworld.com/shop/rilakkuma-cloak/

>>7806091
well i do know japanese people that are really nice and i'm not talking about the double faced bitches who shit behind your back
they just think it's cool and don't care at all as long as we're respectful and don't obsess over their culture or turn full weeb
(like in every country ever tbh it's ok to like things from other cultures as long as you don't obsess over it like wiggers for example)
anyway they'll always be bitter meanies in every culture (african,japanese,chinese,french,...) so why sould we care? just because they're japanese? nah
live your life

>>7806100
Oh that is so cute! I thought it was much smaller from the picture.

>>7806100
Aww

>>7806061
>>7806071
>No fun allowed!
>How DARE seagulls have a laff and be creative!!
>You're all from Tumblr!!
>This is worse than gamer gurls!!!
You need to calm the fuck down. Watch some Nichijou. Drink some hot chocolate. Put on some comfy ass pajamas or kigus. Replace your tampons (or don't).

>>7806129
You
I like you
And your image is cute as frik

>>7806064
They're pajamas. You wouldn't wear it outside of the house other than at an anime convention.

What if we had something called "make-believe mondays" where we put on makeup, fix our hair, and get all dressed up like we're leaving the house to do something important? Like for example, we could wear school uniforms or formal clothes like you have a job interview or something

>>7806525
It could be fun!!

>>7805935
lurk more

>>7806086
>I think cute kotetsu
>kotetsu

>>7806180
Agreed. Please don't wear them outside.

ok, OP here. I just woke up and read through the thread and wanted to clarify some things.
Firstly, when I made the thread and someone suggested the fashion, what I had in mind was something more along the lines of what was said here: >>7806078
admin-chan kind of ran with it in her own direction, and I think that direction is fine, although (and this is meant in no way to be offensive) since admin-chan doesn't seem to have a very good grasp on how others will take her actions, if admin-chan's style of hikikie is going to take off she'll probably need some other people subscribing to it. Currently her style feels like more of a joke, though she's taken some of the con/crit given in this thread and has already made an improvement thanks to that.
As far as the name depression hikikei, I was trying to be impartial and give everyone's style a fair chance, but after sleeping on it I do think that depression hikikei sends the wrong image. It may have even been you, admin-chan, who feared that hikikei would attract the "im so depressed" types who self-diagnose and feel like depression is cool and post cutting pics in their kigus or something, and I feel like by calling it depression hikikei or depression kei you're playing right into that, and to be honest your descriptions, although they are a joke, feel akin to something people like that would write too.
Overall because hikikei is centered on pajamas and houseware, I think that an overall aspect in all of hikikei should be independence, and not caring what others think of you. So, if this includes being filthy or disheveled for you, then that's ok, but I think that your descriptions currently take that concept and escalate it to the point of glorifying depression.
(cont)

>>7806880
And to everyone hating on people for "not being able to take a joke", when admin-chan originally posted these descriptions in the thread it was really funny, but by taking that and then bringing that into a movement which I believe she is serious about, despite her joking around, blurs the line between "joke" and "serious".
Obviously we're not trying to start a movement which is on par with Lolita or whatever, but we are trying to start a laid back fashion where joking around is allowed, but it's ultimately not a joke. Since that's how we've approached it so far, jokes that are so directly about depression aren't quite appropriate.

I get the whole 4chan "don't be so sensitive" attitude, but on the contrary I think that hikikei is the perfect environment for the sensitive person. It's all about surrounding yourself with things you love and shutting out what anyone else says about it, in fact not even giving the outside world an opportunity to comment, so why shouldn't we be so sensitive? Plus while it's good to try and become more resilient to mean comments, I think sensitivity to other people is still a good trait in any hobby. Even if you're not personally offended by someone's comments, understand why some people could be, and in the case of admin-chan's depression kei descriptions, it's not so hard to understand.

Finally I don't think any of us should be afraid to be absolute weebs, since this is pajama style and so no one else has to approve.

>>7805160
>Welcome to the NHK

>>7805476
Dude, socks that have slip resistant soles are the best.

>>7806525
Also although hikikei is based on the word hikikomori, I think that the style shouldn't be so central on literally being agoraphobic. Instead perhaps the light version of the word "shut-in", or just someone who enjoys being alone in their room.
"Make Believe Monday" implies that if you subscribe to hikikei, you never go outside, which is not what I want for this style.
Instead it could be "All Made Up Monday" or something like that where you get super dressed up whether you're going outside or not. It could even be a challenge day to push true shut ins to make plans with someone or generally leave the house when they wouldn't normally.

ok one more thing, I changed it from depression hikikei to gloomy hikikei (I think this sounds better anyway) and deleted bipolar hikikei alltogether, since although it was a funny joke when we were talking about depression kei, it's not really a useful subcategory in the first place.

Also I just want to put it out there, everyone is totally welcome to contribute to the wiki.

>>7806901
We could dress in our fanciest pajamas/nightgown and have a nice dinner or tea party with our huzbandos.

thanks hikiwiki kei! I completely agree with what you said and actually I was the one that wrote >>7806078
so I'm glad I understand!

>>7806921
Oh! It appears that we are on the same page. In that case just a reminder that your blog description still says depression hikikei rather than gloomy hikikei. I won't judge you if you don't want to change it, but it sounds to me like you also like gloomy better, so I'm reminding you.

>>7806911
Why can't it just be hikikei and include all the substyles? Why does it have to be something plus hikikei? That's so confusing and kind of lame, tbh. We're too lazy to dress ourselves, why do we need to categorize what we're wearing?

>>7805830
Can someone post a full link to the facebook page? I want to put it on the wiki, but I don't want to risk linking my facebook account to anything 4chan related... haha.

>>7806933
I personally prefer straight hikikei, and that's what I'll be using, but if other people want to use substyles I don't want to limit them.
After all hikikei isn't meant to be about laziness, but about the joy of being in your own room, without a care of what others think of you.

What do you guys think of harem pants? I think they look comfy as fuck but I'm having a hard time finding cute ones.

>>7806044
bumping this opinion.

>>7806911
(The gloomy caught on yesss)
(I like to feel like I contributed because I thought of the word gloomy)

>>7807490
you did contribute <3

>>7806091
Do you think anyone of fashionable relevant is going to care about a bunch of weebs sitting around wearing pajamas pretending to look cute? This entire thing is a joke.

>>7804982
I wish I could do that anon. I wear super warm shit in the summer, and some winters I wear multiple pairs of pj pants.

I drew up a design for homura inspired pajamas. T-shirt dress (with glow in the dark soul gem design), pajama leggings, and a quilted robe. The bow at the bottom of the robe is the zipper pull. I love the idea of pajama "cosplay", since it allows you to cosplay every night without anyone judging you for it.

>>7808864
Your art looks like shit

>>7809207
I didn't call this beautiful artwork. It's just a thing to communicate an outfit idea.

>>7805968

I'm also voting for gloomy kei. Although I don't mind the name depressive kei, I just think gloomy sounds a bit cuter as well as the general public not thinking its completely offensive.