/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

meta y u do dis?

>>7788364
Oh lord.

>>7788364
is that velvet

>>7788368
y-yes it is

>>7788364
If the lace weren't black/were dyed to match, I'd love it. But the black and the weird corset lacing on the boobs kill it for me.

>http://lolibrary.org/apparel/starry-chiffon-skirt
This skirt would suit confortably a 70 cm waist?? Because it says 64-70 cm but with shirring would be more??

So I asked it the last thread, but really didn't check...

Knit/jersey bloomers? Y/N? Wouldn't have too much detail/lace

>>7788405
I've made knit bloomers but tbh the specific knit I used made them look shit. They sagged a bit, unlike the cotton or flannel I usually use, so it looked like a big adult diaper cover. It might be better with other knits, though. I'm sticking to flannel and cotton.

That being said, I can picture a really cute pajama/room wear set with knit bloomers.

>>7788364
All this needs is a pimp hat and a long cheetah-print coat. Bam. Halloween coord done.

Iron Gate is being sold again and I'm too much of a poorfag to get it. Bets on how high it's going to go for?

>>7788405
Yes. I wear bloomers sometimes with non-lolita (sundresses etc) and as pajama bottoms so yes.

>>7788402
Skirts are known to have a small max, so you may be okay but it is likely that it will just be a tight fit. Shirring on skirts dont seem to have a lot of give too.

>>7788491
There is a JSK version of this? Seems there is only the skirt version.

Huh, AP just updated Crystal Dream Carnival sets on their webstore.

I'm somewhat miffed that I missed the magical etoile set earlier today, it was like 80USD for jsk and headbow. Is this common?

>>7788533

I don't see where the other anon says anything about jsks. All she said was that skirts in general are tight with not a lot of give.

There's a jsk from 2012, if you'd bothered searching lolibrary.

>>7788364
Also why isn't it properly ironed ?

>>7789055

Can velveteen be ironed?

>>7789055
>>7789061
Last time I tried to iron a velveteen part of a halloween costume (I used steam because I was afraid the fabric would melt) the dye bled everywhere.
There's got to be a proper way to do it.

>>7789061
>>7789074
You can but you pretty much need a needle board. You put the needle side in the pile of the velveteen and press with steam. You can't put the iron directly on the fabric or you'll mess it up.

>>7789082

Wow, never knew something like this even existed.

Thanks, anon!

>>7789046
I thought this was another series (a similar one), there is also a mini skirt version. I think to buy the jsk or mini skirt instead, they seem more forgiving and confortable about size.

Holy damn I saw my dream dress on mbok and chibitenshi is bidding on it. I want to cry.
I hope Baby will put out some amazing breathtaking dress.

>>7789112
grazia?

http://s.ameblo.jp/nileperch/entry-11916972354.html
HOW do I order these someone help me please

Why is she so perfect?

>>7789191
She looks downsy in every picture what are you talking about.

>>7789193
She looks satisfied, sane and in a bliss.

>>7789197
what the fuck

>>7789197
So she was just fucked before the photoshoot ?

>>7789241
Or high.

>>7789241
This woman doesn't fuck before marriage, just look at her face and you can see that she's pure.

>>7789061
>>7789074
The cheap way to do it is with a damp (not wet) pressing cloth and a super fluffy towel if the pile's short enough. And low-medium heat rather than steam.

I'm looking for my dream dress.
Can anyone tell me if there are any other places I can look. I already check these daily.
egl_comm_sales (and the AP comm on livejournal)
lacemarket
closet child
Usagi Youhinten
Rakuten
Yahoo Auctions
mbok
Alice Fururun

>>7789298
post it in the dream dress thread (someone mightve seen it round), and check out the BST thread on here
What is it?

So I haven't bought anything from AP except clothing before but I want this.
How do releases for things like this go? Are they only released in Japanese bookstores?
Or can I buy it on Amazon?

>>7789301
I've already posted it there, I did get help but somebody bought it before I could.
I haven't posted in the BST thread but I'll try
It's melty cream donut JSK in pink, but at this point I think I would go for any color way.

>>7789298
Maiden Clothing maybe?

>>7789298
Tokyo Alice
Grand Bazaar Lolita

>>7789312
Oooh, good luck to you on that one! I let you know if I see it somewhere

>>7789273

Not that anon, but thank you! I've always avoided velveteen due to not knowing how to care for it properly.


>>7789302

You can pre order it already
http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/4800228921/kutar2180-22/ref=nosim/

>>7789346

Going to add the IW diary if anybody here is an IW fan instead.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/4800228883/kutar2180-22/ref=nosim/

Does anyone know a shopping service that can bid for me but I can pay after they have won the auction?

>>7789319
>>7789336
Oh thanks for your help! I'm adding these to the list
>>7789339
haha,Thanks kind anon!

>>7789362
Only if you have a long history with a SS which you dont because youre asking. So no.

>>7789362
Haven't used them yet, but I think Buyee works on that principle. You have to provide card details/paypal when you sign up though.

>>7789346
Thanks anon

>>7789369
Bitch, my SS is on vacation.

>>7788429
10/10 would wear every day

I'm 12 and what is this

>>7789370
No, I just used Buyee and you pay when you place the bid. If you lose, they refund you.

I'm in a bit of a predicament.
I want to custom order a blouse from Bunny House while their sale is still going, but I can't get a good measurement for my shoulders and arm. Should I just base it on a blouse that already fits me, or is there some secret to measuring yourself?

>>7789519
No you don't. I've used Buyee many times, and they only take money out after you've won, at least if you're using Paypal with them.

>>7789302
Do they sell these in AP stores? I'll be in Japan then and want to buy one.

>>7789535
I didn't use paypal. I used a debit card and it was charged immediately.

>>7789521
The secret is have help. Getting your measurements is a two person job.

>>7789375
Tokyo pirates? shes shit.

>>7789587
Well, that's not going to happen in the next day. I guess I'll just go with another blouse's measurements and mention it in my message.

Figured this is the best place to ask, but I'm trying to get more into lolita and build up a wardrobe but most of the dresses and blouses I find have 90+ CM and I'm an 80 CM bust.
I was wondering if any of you have dresses or blouses that are a bit bigger than your measurements and still look alright when worn?
I realize that 10 cm is too much, but would something like 5-6 CM too big work or look stupid?

>>7789672
I know this pain anon. I usually wear a heavily padded bra (one of mine can add at least five cm) so for those dresses at the higher end of the 80s that might help but I've found some of my dresses, especially those with full back shirring just sort of hang in an unflattering way or just plain don't fit nicely. If you stick to only partially shirred pieces with back lacing you'll probably have more luck. Good luck anon!

>>7789672
So the thing with lolita dresses that you have to remember is that they are by and large adjustable in size, and that often the stock measurements given are the garment measurements rather than the measurements of the person they are designed to fit, therefore you should be at least a couple of cm under the measurements anyway, if not 5-6cm. Remember that you will also probably wear a cutsew/blouse which can add bulk. Corset lacing will usually make a dress up to 10cm smaller anyway.
I have pretty much the same size bust and a lot of my dresses have stock measurements between 85-90cm but fit me fine because of corset lacing/shirring.

>>7789042
I missed the blue one again, CURSES!

>>7789699
I wonder if they even have any blue stock left in the first place 'cos its probably the most popular

>>7789707
I really wanted the blue one, but I settled for pink... Oh well, it's also very nice.

>>7789672
It usually isnt an issue, as most blouseds with that large of a max bust have corset ties and shirring to help you out. Avoid ones that dont but most things will fit you no problem.

If you still need a bit of help in the bust, >>7789691 is right with just getting a bra that has padding. That will fill in the gap. It wont give you a 10 cm boost but you will find it isnt a big issue.

>>7789708
yes, I love the cut.

So, what's a good longer petti? I just got my first dress that falls to just below my knees, and my shorter pettis just don't look right under it.

>>7789042
Is anyone else getting sick of the new, inverted-triangle shaped "switching" bodices? I'd rather have bib-like yokes.

>>7789672
Unrelated to your post but your gif is cracking me up...

Does anyone here have any experiences with LocoRoco?
They just tried to overcharge me 20 Euros on "paypal fees"
And now they ignore me after I confronted them...

Please someone tell me they just did it by mistake and it's not their common practice.


wtf... I mean just WTF man...

>>7789722
Yeah, and in person the pink is really nice in contrast with the purple ponies.

Does anyone know where to get a nice peter pan collar blouse that's short sleeve and not too sheer that's not for a kids uniform?

repost from last thread but anyone know what the writing on this skirt says?

>>7788439
2000

>>7789298
All the facebook comms

>>7789521
Don't do it bunny house has shit customer service and the blouses are only mediocre quality

>>7789589
I've only heard good things about her?

>>7789915
AP and IW usually have blouses like that. Not sure about the sheerness, though.

Does anyone know if Tokyo Pirates or Chibi Tenshi work on weekends? I found a dress that ends within the next 10 hours or so. I know TP has been seriously backlogged.

Does anyone have experience with Anna House? Are their blouses worth it?

>>7790082
Is Knit & Co a Taobao shop? I'm googling where to buy their stuff and I'm not getting much.

Is Knit & Co a Taobao shop? I'm looking for where to buy their stuff and maybe my google-fu is weak but I'm not getting many results.

>>7789935
Are they really that bad? There aren't many reviews of their blouses.

>>7790133
Also, is Rei Zou really the owner, and she just says she's a "customer" on their fb? One or two reviews have suggested she's the owner, but her photos/outfits are always posted as customer feedback on the fb.

>>7789539
They should be available in general bookstores.

>>7790082
The one I had was on the thinner side but serviceable for the overall price. Knowing what I know now I'd probably opt for taobao brands though.

>>7789672
Do note that corset lacing through lace are decorative only and are not meant to cinch the dress in. The lace is too delicate and will tear.

Apparently Puppet Circus anon is an even shittier seller than previously thought.

What happened here? The comments seem pretty tame to me.

Opinions on fishnet in lolita? I see it working for EGA or gothic...

>>7790205
looks really tacky no matter what imo. Stick with lace tights.

>>7790205
only ero

>>7790111
>Knit & Co a Taobao
http://shop58520713.taobao.com/

>>7790207
What about "pothole fishnet"?
Or beige colored fishnet?
I have worn both with an outfit and I think they looked ok, but second opinions are always good.

And I do agree lace tights are much much better; misplaced my black ones and wore fishnet instead one day and have been wondering if it could work.

>>7790210
Ero never turns out good, or at least that's as far as I've seen.

>>7790220
>Ero never turns out good, or at least that's as far as I've seen.
eh sometimes it works
i wouldnt call it lolita though

>>7790188
what the fuck? no one's gonna buy from her now

>>7790205
JetJ used them in a promo pic. Not really lolita though

>>7790243
And JetJ is ugly as fuck

So no fishnet, why use them in the first place?
Can't you use regular stockings if your that much of a poorfag

>>7790133
I have 2 long sleeve classic blouses in white and black. The black is nice. I like it. It's very comfortable with nice material and the lace is good quality.

The white however is not as nice. It's a yellowy faded white and the lace is huge and kind of ugly. I avoid wearing it whenever I can. luckily I wear a lot of black so the black blouse is fine for me.

>>7790220
Ero isn't so bad.

>>7790251
Man that's angry

>>7790256
Mana-sama is always angry

>>7790259
Don't soil the name of our god with your shitty opinions, tripfagscum.

>Mana dearie spend all his life in fishnets and knee-high PVC whore boots, that's why I love him.

>>7790268

they aren't even tripfagging, just namefagging. Dumb newfags.

>>7790255
at least it's not wa-lolita

>>7789707

They had blue when I posted the link. It didn't sell out until sometime in the evening (Japan time)

I really love this cut too, kind of wondering if I should post my regular jsk for trade for this set. Seems a bit easier than trying to sell them off to girls who don't have them yet, on the other hand, are there any girls who like these the regular ones more than these enough to bother with a trade? Any thoughts?


>>7789521

Use an existing blouse and tell Bunny House you did so. Make sure you lay the blouse and tape out flat to get accurate measurements.

I had a friend who told me her shoulder measurement was around 90cm; turns out she was wrapping the measuring tape around her shoulders since she was having trouble measuring herself. I told her to use a blouse that she likes the fit of, and she came back with a more reasonable shoulder measurement of 47cm (she wasn't skinny, yeah, but no way is she 90cm wide in the shoulders

>>7790269
Lol truth be told I forgot I still have the name on too

>>7790268
And that's why he sucks as a Lolita
Rarely did his outfits not look like Ita's-first-goth

Rarely

>>7790308
As every lolita outfit did in the early 90's tho.

>>7790310
Thank god that trended died out too

>>7790308
kill urself

>>7790199
Yes the comments were fine. That admin is just having a power trip. I've seen worse comments on that page and they never do anything about those.

>>7790188
This is fucking ridiculous. Put a higher starting price then.

>>7789935
I've had good experiences with her, though I only have one blouse. It's also decent quality, though not as nice as the one I got from the floral notebook.

General lolita question. does anyone have experience buying from loli loli paradise on facebook?

>>7790188
Good, I forsee this type of thing happening in the future with other seller hopefuls.
>lolitas coming less and less to terms with the fact that their deteriorating, previously worn prints can no longer be sold for the hundreds that they bought them for
It gets to the point where if it's been in the hands of 5+ people (only tried/worn 'once' by each...) then it's definitely used clothing and the price should reflect it. Especially if there's damages.

>>7790082
I have one annahouse blouse. The fabric is a bit stiff, but it feels pretty good. Mine has puff sleeves, and it makes me look really broad shouldered. I think it was worth it, its one of my favourites blouses.

>>7790188
Does she not know how auctions work? If you put a starting price lower than what you want to sell for, you can't get pissy and just not sell it when someone wins at a lower price than you feel you're 'entitled' to. I swear, Puppet Circus and IG sellers seem especially bad about doing this.

Will IW only ship to your confirmed PP address?

>>7790251
Nope. Not a poorfag. Misplaced my lace tights and fuck if I was going to wear full opaque tights in 100+ weather.

Only wondering if they could ever "properly" work in an outfit, since my only experience was using them in my own outfits (like I said, I thought they looked ok).

>>7789920
It's lyrics from a moi dix mois song, dunno which one though.

>>7790205
>>7790243
I personally think it works in this. She's wearing pumps and no blouse. It's less lolita authentic focused and more like their vision of mature Lolita. (Still don't want that dress.)

>>7790865
I think the dress is really pretty, actually

Are split color wigs no longer acceptable in lolita? Or are they still ok? Like a dark brown/light brown split

>>7790943
We're not a hivemind. But I think the general consensus is that theyre terrible, but natural colors are more acceptable than pastel vomit.

important question: is moitie jewellery worth it?

>>7789346
Is there a tutorial for preordering on japanese amazon?

>>7790111
I've bought Knit &Co. items from several different Taobao shops, including >>7790212

>>7788364
I'd buy the hell outta this. Don't care if it's ita as fuck. Velvet and purple; my weaknesses.

What do you guys think would happen to the plus-size sales comms if replicas were banned?

>>7791566
You can just order it. Amazon.jp ships globally and accepts US credit/debit cards.
I've ordered comics and GLBs from there before; shipping wasn't too bad.

>>7791616
Then why aren't you? Reservations are open, and there's some other nicer designs to choose from. I just commissioned a dress in a similar fabric, otherwise the OP in purple would be mine

>>7791672
Maybe some quality brand could actually be bought and sold since it finally won't be buried under Oo Jia replicas. Then again, there would still be the 'totally kawaii and loliable offbrand ^-^!!!' posts.

>>7790903
>>7790865
I think it works too. It isn't like normal lolita, where it would normally look like an ita just picking up fishnets from Hot Topic instead of decent tights.

I also really like this dress, but only if the neckline is used as sleeves or draped correctly. It looks blocky and bleh in some pictures.

>>7791693
Currently broke. Also, fatty chan here. Dunno if it would even fit me.

>inb4 "why don't you check then?"
I will. It's low on my list of priorities.

>>7791672
I would hope a full-on, Charles Manson-style Helter Skelter for control of burando. Instead of a being between whites and blacks like manson envisioned, it'd be between fats and non-fats.
>a privilege war?
>BMI war?

>>7790199 >>7790342

Bleh that admin is in my comm and any given point she is given power she has a trip. Don't know why she is a mod for cof she is super irresponsible and bitchy.

>>7788326
Anyone have experience with the Dream Holic wig store on Etsy? I really like their wig design but hesitant to buy because their shipping is atrocious and there is only 2 reviews on the store.

>>7790903
>>7791758
My reason for not liking it is the cut. I don't care if the girl next to me buys it and wears it well.

Whatre all the different places to buy decent lolita wigs? I see Gothic Lolita Wigs and Lockeshop. I prefer a US based one if possible. Is taobao the best place to look? If so, any popular stores lolitas usually buy from? Appreciate any help.

>>7791848
Buying from taobao is just like buying from ebay. It can be very risky if you don't pay attention to outside reviews, but the taobao spreadsheet has several listed that are reliable and that's pretty rad. I personally really like buying from wig-supplier for really natural-looking wigs.

>>7789920
They're lyrics from Gloire Dans Le Silence by Moi dix Mois.

>In the world of hurt, nothing ever changes

>>7791848
Arda is also really popular but their prices are a bit too high imo.

>>7791825
Seconding this! I was actually looking at their wigs today. Those shipping prices though.

Soooo, are maxipad headdresses completely dead? I don't think I'll ever stop liking the way they look with gothic.

>>7790199
>no ears in lolita

bitch have you ever even seen the hoods on AP and BTSSB coats

>>7792030
I hope not. I imagine that with the influx of Madonna flower headpieces and the general preference to headbows that maxi pad headdresses are simply pushed into the background - perhaps enjoyed by long-time lolitas who stick to or are returning to the old school styles they were familiar with, and those types of people don't usually seem to seek attention on their tumblrs; either they don't care or don't really have time for that sort of thing which makes sense as many are older lolitas who probably have a full-time job/career and/or even a family.

A little part of me wonders if mini-top hats truly died out or just worn by itas who don't know that it's not a thing anymore.

>>7792054
I'm one of those types to seek attention on tumblr but I prefer the headdress to headbows and flower crowns (or whatever the hell else people are putting on their heads these days)

The only reason I don't do it is because I have limited funds so a different fashion style takes preference over lolita right now.

>>7791825
Dream holic has a taobao tho

>>7792074
and only has three wigs posted for sale lol

>>7792054
They tend to be worn more with boystyle now.

>>7791188
It used to be silver, I'm not sure if they still do it though.

>>7791825
Anzujaamu does sponsored reviews for them if you want to see how they look.

any idea where i can get affordable mid-length to long -cotton- petticoats? i keep finding chiffon.

>>7792554
I want to know this, too. Personally by affordable I'd like <$100. I'd be okay with $80 or so as long as the quality is good. A black option would be perfect, too.

Question: If you attend an official brand teaparty, ofc it's common sense wearing main pieces of that brand to it. But what about accessoires? Shoes? Bags? And what about if those accessoirse are replicas of other brands items? F.e Milk Heartbags etc. Of course I am not talking about going to an AP tea-party with AP replica shoes and bags, but f.e with the already mentioned heart bags or VM shoes. Is it frowned upon? Is it even noticed?

>>7793019
I think so long as your main piece (and some accessories) are from the brand, using other brands in the outfit is okay.
To the only brand tea party I've gone to, I wore a Baby dress and blouse; offbrand tights; VM shoes; and Baby, AP, taobao indie brand, and thrifted accessories.

Does anyone have worn pics of AP's Powder Sugar blouse, preferably under a dress? I've only found one of LapinChocolat wearing it.

Would people be interested if I was to sell lolita patterns?
Dresses, blouses, skirts, jackets, coats.

I was thinking of opening a shop where I sell downloadable and physical patterns with detailed instuctions, graded to your measurements, specific to lolita.
Would it be worth the effort to offer commissions of these patterns for those who can't/don't have the effort to sew themselves?
Also considering, selling original print fabric down the line.
Would it be worth my time? Or are there just too many indie brands, and now people no longer like to hand make their lolita?

>>7790082
I bought two, if you want to go for a very oldschool look, get them, but I found them having too big sleeves. you get what you pay for

>>7793019
The event should have a posted guideline of what they expect the attendees to wear but rule of thumb is try to incorporate the brand somewhere in your outfit to show support. Ideally your main piece should be the brand that is hosting and everything else can be whatever. Replicas are frowned upon but I don't think they would notice if its not something they designed.

>>7793110

I'm still waiting for the last two girls who asked this question to come back and tell us where they've opened shop; one said they were going to do downloadable pdf files of sized patterns, the other was debating buying a pattern printer. I'm one of the ones who said I can sew fine but pattern drafting is confusing and annoying to me, so I'd be down to buy a pattern if I liked the dress design.

Anyway, to recap, your main competition is otome no sewing, where you can get a mini wardrobe's worth of patterns for USD20-30 (shipping included), but the instructions are in japanese and the sizing is for flat, short people. You could stress English instructions, and/or sell single-outfit patterns (or even single item patterns) for less than USD20 as your selling points. Keep in mind that most lolitas who sew their own are usually budget lolitas, they won't buy the patterns if the price is too high.

General advice is that your market is not big, so don't put too much effort into it, you probably won't get enough demand to recoup the cost of a large format printer, and I'm not sure if grading patterns to individual measurements is worth your while. Better if you can get some standard measurements going, but include in your instructions how to make adjustments for things like wider shoulder width, longer sleeves, full bust adjustment. You can always offer to custom-adjust the patterns for your buyers as an extra, paid service on top of that.

Commissions of patterns: Do you mean you'll buy the fabric and sew up the patterns, like a sewing commission? You won't exactly be rolling in commissions, but there is always a demand for these, especially for blouses. Your competition would be places like Bunny House, the Floral Notebook, Anna House, Lady Sloth and F+F, so long as you can offer competitive choice/quality/price you'll do okay.

>>7793110
I would pay for full sized (GOOD) patterns in English. But not PDF files, actual printed patterns.
>>7793279
Makes some good points though I do think a serious lolita on a budget would invest in good patterns. Personally, I'd overpay if they were actually good.

Are there any good Comms in the Jersey/Pennsylvania area? I'm moving up there for about a year and bringing some of my closet along.

>>7793380
Where exactly are you moving to, anon? What county?

There's a Philly comm and there's a NJ comm, but there are also lolitas all over PA that are sort of scattered.

>>7793386
Bucks county. Kind of in the center between the two states.

Long drives for meets won't matter too much for me, seeing as I'm moving from "you can drive 12 hours and still be in it" Texas.

All I could think of when looking at 4 O' Clock dress photos.

>>7793279
Pattern printer girl here. Seems like I might be able to rent the equipment but still battles if it's worth it or not.

>>7793279
Pattern printer girl here. Seems like I might be able to rent the equipment but still battles if it's worth it or not. Thinking of start posting instructions how you do patterns yourself with pen and paper on youtube though.

>>7793395
Hey, I'm in Berks, not too far from there.

I'd say you'd be best off joining the Philly Comm. I don't ever go to meets because it's a 2 hour drive to Philly and my workplace hates me, but I've talked to the girls online and everyone seems sweet, if a little iffy on coording.

>>7793410
Probably better than my current comm. I'll have to look into them.

We still get people asking about milanoo and trying to make personal kickstarters for people to pay for their brand.

>>7793110
It would not be worth selling commissioned patterns imo, they won't make you back anything approaching a reasonable hourly rate compared to the time it'll take.

>>7793407

Awwww nooooooo I already have books on how to draft patterns with measurements and paper and pencil. I was hoping to avoid all that if I could just buy a pattern, even if it's a pdf one and I have to tape it out of A4 paper together.

Ah well, you gotta do what you gotta do, I guess. Whichever you decide, it would be nice if you came back and told us where you posted it.

Thanks for the update, anon.

>>7793429
Jesus. Philly just has a few girls who need a little more work.

On another note, the main admin/mod or whatever is really well dressed and I'm super jelly of their wardrobe.

>>7793380
Holy shit, where can I get that umbrella/parasol?

>>7793481
VM

>>7793445
Still looking over the finances! Probably when I sell my old apartment but that might take a year since my mother need somewhere to live. So in a year maybe anon <3 (or sooner, we will see.)

I'm also in discussion with my old school to borrow their stuff.

If I do or post anything you will be able to see it here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfZqA8_xyoGC9kElOxvkfBw
Or here: http://lolitadetails.tumblr.com/ (even though it's empty for the moment)

>>7793493

Followed on both, thanks!

It's okay, I still have my otome no sewing books that I can make adjustments to, while we wait for the rest of everything to get settled. At least now I have a timeframe and a place to look for updates.

Good luck with your moving apartments and life in general, anon. Hope you get things sorted easily and I can start pestering you about patterns =D

Does anyone know when (time-wise) fururun updates?

>>7791861
I'm not a huge fan of Ardas wigs. They're always too big for my head and the wig fibers towards the scalp sometimes look frizzy.

Shame since they're always nice and thick and the fibers aside from the scalp are nice.

Any ideas on how I can shrink my boobies a few cm to fit into a new jsk I got? I already wear a sports bra.

>>7793954
They've always been crap unless you have a giant head or are good at managing wigs to the point where you could correct the fibre damages and fit issues.

Stopped buying into the hype after the second wig I bought from them turned out to be a shitshow.

>>7793964
Same. I can fix fibers easily enough but I really don't want to mess around with refitting an entire wig.

>>7793961
Minimiser bra or binding. I personally don't like binding and I use a minimiser, it helps so much with boobloaf.

>>7793407
I would be grateful for those videos!

Lenore shoes got banned from LM lel
didn't they host ads from them before the previous owner stepped down?

>>7794274
topkek

She's ignoring people's PMs again. I learned my lesson from Christmas.

>>7793982
Different anon here. Any brands you recommend?

If you could organize your dream lolita event or tea party, what would it be like? Are the shopping opportunities more important than special guests? Are fashion shows already boring? And when you go to a tea party do you prefer to have lots of food rather than lots of program? I've been thinking about these questions lately.

>>7790188
Someone did this to me on Mbok recently. Pylsusinnep, where ever you are, I feel your pain.

>>7794567
Not the original anon, but I use Lilyette.

>>7794737
I think if it's a weekend event, guests/shopping/fashion show is great, but separate it from the tea party itself. If it's a one day event, I'd rather it focus on the food and my friends, maybe one or two guests of honour to give the tea party a little something extra.

If it's a tea party celebrating a particular brand, then having a little table/booth somewhere in the venue to buy their goods is also nice, but not strictly necessary.

>>7794737
My dream event would be at a party at Universal Studios

But for a really fun idea try Ita-paintball

>>7794914

Is it common? fjp said my seller simply "doesn't want to sell", and I'm watching it happen from another seller on yja (the previous auction was won, but the seller clearly just relisted the item the next night)

I'm quite surprised no bad feedback whatsoever was left for both my mbok seller and the yja seller that I'm watching.

>>7794274

Good. She deserves to be banned.

>>7794274
>mexican seller
Yeah I never thought it was a good idea.

>>7793110
I would love good, affordable, lolita-specific patterns. I dunno if there'd be much money in it for you though, personally I wouldn't be willing to pay more than $15, especially if it's a digital download. Paper patterns my max would probably be $25.

>>7790550
Not directly, but I was part of a group order through her and it all went fine, although it seemed like communication was a little slow on her end.

>>7790550

I've bought from her about 7 times.
She's very easy to work with, the communication was always pretty good.
She's not the cheapest SS out there, but great for pre-orders or getting your hands on limited items.
Thanks to her I recently scored an Ista Mori Nameless Poem OP after pre-orders were closed so I was pretty chuffed about that.

I've started to wear lolita to help my self-confidence, but I still have terrible posture from all those years of hiding myself and making myself small. How do I learn to be more elegant, seagulls?

Antique Beast is accepting orders beginning Sep. 4 at 9pm (Japan time, so Sep. 9 at 8 am EST), for those who are interested.
I think I'll buy one of her bat headdresses in preparation for halloween.

>>7788326
Damn that girl looks gorgeous. Not a massive fan of the bag but who cares when you look that good

>>7795207
Anon are you Aus based as I was thinking of selling mine?

>>7795183
I'd say just sit/stand straight whenever you find yourself thinking about it. You can walk around with a book on your head for practice if you like, practice sitting with the book on your head, read books with a book on your head, use the computer with a book on your head, etc. Also, if you are keeping your back straight when you sit, try not to lean forward, which can be very easy (particularly when eating), and keep your back perpendicular to the floor. And to prevent yourself being lazy, remind yourself of all the back problems you're saving yourself from in later life, and proper posture can also prevent unpleasant things like haemorrhoids and minor rectal prolapse which can affect people at any age.

>>7795183
Take dance classes. Not ballet, but modern or ballroom dances. It'll help you with both posture and confidence.
And the book on your head is an actual thing, as >>7795240 said. Use it whenever you have a little bit of time at home. When you can't use it (outside for exemple), try to look slightly over your normal sight line to keep your head straight. When sitting, straighten you back and don't cross your legs (you can cross your ankles). Always put your shoulders slightly leaning toward your back, it'll make your neckline appear better, your neck longer and thus your all bust more elegant.

I'm sorry if this isn't the right thread to ask this, but I've been into lolita for about a year and a half now, and I'm finding that a lot of dresses aren't very flattering on me because I have a long torso and they don't hit my waist in the right place. Could anyone recommend some lower-waisted dresses to me? Thanks. Brand is fine, but I'm also interested in getting some less expensive off-brand pieces to build up my wardrobe.

>>7795239
I am not, unfortunately. I'm in the US

>>7795183
Adding to what >>7795266 said, if you feel yourself slouching, a good way to correct your posture is just to roll your shoulders back. "Wings back", as my grandma used to tell me.

>>7795207
Thanks for the heads up!
I'm tempted to order the NYX corset, but black doesn't go with too much in my wardrobe.

>>7795272

You can try searching lolibrary for drop waist jsks to look for. Just watch out for the ones that are actually salopettes instead of jsks.

As for brand, Angelic Pretty is the one brand that comes out with low-waisted jsks the most often. The good and bad news is that the low-waisted releases are usually without the border print (eg- Musee du Chocolat, Chess Chocolate, Tartan coat of arms something), so the secondhand prices for those versions are usually half of retail price and there's no fight for them (because they don't have the border print).

As far as indie brands go, many girls have complained about Haenuli bodices, but I'd advise you write in and ask her the details such as length of bodice, where the bust darts are placed and so on. Because girls have complained that the dresses are too long even for girls with long torsos, plus I'm not sure if she's actually going to shorten the torsos because of complaints.

>>7795312

That's a good excuse to buy things that go with it anon.

>>7795240
>>7795266
>>7795290
Thankyou so much!

>>7795326
I like the way you think!
Pic related is only a wip (I own everything but the shoes,) so if I do buy it, then at least I can coord it immediately.

>>7795326
I like the way you think!

I own everything in my pic but the shoes, so if I do buy the corset, then at least I can coord it immediately. And I re-counted my wardrobe and it looks like it'll match 5 different items I own- which isn't as bad as I first thought.

>>7795272
Haenuli's designs are very often long in the torso

>>7795266
I did ballroom really casually for a few years and can vouch for it being amazing for posture. Years of nerding and leaning over computer and sewing machines but I still have my perfect ballroom posture.

>>7795324
>>7795395
Great! Thanks so much!!

Can anyone recommend a place to get an A-Line petti, preferably in Europe? I need one within 2-3 weeks. I've checked the sales comms but haven't seen anything.

>>7791816
Lmao, it is Pengu after all. I think everyone knows she's irresponsible and bitchy at this point.

>>7791816
>>7795680
How old is she out of curiosity?

>>7795649
I dont think you are going to get a eurocentric answer unless someone is personally selling their old ones.

Typically people get theirs from taobao, but I dont think your timeframe would allow for that. There is the ebay store Victorian Girl Dress that has pettis, marketed to children but their largest size is the same as a women's 2,4,6.

There is also someone selling their malco mode's on lacemarket, although they do live in the US. I dont think it is any cheaper than getting it from anywhere else, and it is a US brand.

>>7795649
I just ordered from victoriangirldress and it should arrive by the end of the month (but I live in the US and there's never problems with customs).

>>7795701
Victorian girl dress has nothing in their shop, they were the 1st place I looked. I saw the MM petti, I'll probably message the seller and hopefully they'll ship to me. I'll also stop by the BST thread and hope that someone will respond.

Has anyone here tried Lady Sloth's petticoats?

Looking for worn pics.

AatP Melty Fur Coat (2012)

>>7795722
I just looked at them now and see stuff? Maybe you are looking at the wrong store.

>>7795649
>>7795722
Budget? Probably your three best options are:
- lolitabutiken - has a chocomint A-line in stock
http://lolitabutiken.se/index.php/clothes/underpinnings/chocomint-a-line-petticoat.html
- square dancing shops in the eu selling malco modes
- goth and rockabilly stores selling hell bunny petticoats

>>7795857
changed to ebay.com and voila they appeared!
Thanks Anon!

>>7795893
Oh fuck this, seriously I miss the damn email box!

>>7795701
Is there a difference between the dearer petti and the cheaper petti in the VGD store? Other than price I mean

Are Swimmer bags loliable?

>>7796041
Yes.

>>7796041

I seriously can't decide whether I love or hate that Alice bag.

>>7795701

Is their XL size too short? Another anon mentioned they're having a clearance sale but there's only XL sizes and smaller left.

Are there any decent lolita hairstyles to be done with actual hair if you don't have a fringe?

>>7796041

What kind of fucking question is this? I'm assuming you're conflicted because the bags don't cost $100+? I want the summer newfags to leave.

>>7796055
There is more than one listing, so I see ones with XXL listed. xl is 15 inches, xxl is 17.5 according to them, and so the difference is pretty minor. It all depends on the skirts but you can say the typical skirt length is between 17-20 inches. If you are unsure, measure yourself to see where the petti would hit.

>>7796097

I'm talking about this listing http://www.ebay.com/itm/001-Colorful-Pettiskirts-Ballet-Tutus-Party-Event-Clearance-Sale-3-16-years-old-/171394140734?pt=US_Childrens_Clothing_Girls&var=&hash=item6d886a9b1a , is there any other listing that's on sale that I'm missing?

Most of my skirts are 19 inches so it'd be a moreless 4 inches difference, is that too much? I normally use longer petticoats so I'm clueless on this topic.

>>7796066
yeah just comb your hair over to the side a little and pin it

>>7796142
I have a cowlick in the middle of my hairline which makes that sort of thing a bit hard, but I guess I'll just have to play around with it.

>>7796130
No,t hat is the only clearance one, but like the normal priced ones are cheap already so I dont see it as a big difference in price, 11 vs 20 is not a huge thing.

I dont think it will be that big of a deal, you may at most have to wear it a tad lower than the natural waist, and that shouldnt be a big deal anyways because A lines have the gradual poof. Obviously the 17 is better as it is closer, but its still fine. I find my 18 inch petti too long in some cases as it peaks out, but my shorter ones I dont find an issue on most stuff.

>>7796362

I have the exact same problem with the longer petticoats. I never wear them at my natural waist because I end up feeling really uncomfortable with the elastic, so I have to wear them a tad lower and they always peak out. So this shouldn't really be a problem.

11 vs 20 is not a huge difference, yes, so I'll think about it.

>>7796154
You can always opt for a clip on fringe that matches closely to your natural hair. Thats if you want a fringe

Which ss do you guys best recommend for ordering from Jane marple? I saved up around 1k to spend on their shop and now I'm unsure who to use to order from them ,I don't want to be hit with insane fees for 3 expensive items.

Does your coat have to match your coord? Coats are expensive, so if I can get away with one, that'd be great. Also, are brand coats worth it? If not, what woulld you recommend?

>>7796639
How matchy matchy are you thinking? Most people just go for a really neutral colour - eg: a plain brown coat for a classic wardrobe. Brand coats are quite nice but I'd never pay full retail for one. I live in a warmer climate and I own a black offbrand coat and a pink ETC coat. The latter came from Closet Child and it wasn't too expensive. Off brand coats can be nice as well, but long length coats aren't always designed to fit the poof of a petticoat.

>>7796639

It feels much better if it does match. I'd suggest putting together your legwear, bag and shoes, and then picking a coat that goes with most of those items -- once you put your coat on, those are the items that will be visible.

Brand coats -- it depends. They're very warm, properly made, good quality and really nice, but Japan winter is relatively mild. If you live someplace where you need snow boots, thermal underwear and jeans in winter, they won't be warm enough.

Lolita noob here.
What are the point of plain OTKs? Why not just plain tights?

>>7796974
because zettai ryouiki

>>7796974
I don't know why, but back when I was starting lolita there was kind of a stigma around tights, a lot of people thought they weren't acceptable in lolita for whatever reason. Maybe some people still think like that? I always used them regardless, anyway.

>>7796609
Have you tried FromJapan? Here's a guide I use for them.

http://pkmncollectors.livejournal.com/13701971.html

>>7796974
>>7797318

A while back, printed tights weren't a thing, so one of the arguments for OTKs is that brand makes OTKs with matching print patterns. Now, granted, if you were wearing something that was a little on the basic bitch side anyway, solid tights go with the toned down look. However, at some point girls were wearing solid tights with colourful printed AP dresses, the tights looked a bit too plain in comparison.

Another reason is that girls who sometimes had enough money to buy the dresses, but cheaped out on other things, like getting an office blouse and a pair of solid tights instead of a loli blouse and printed legwear. The result is that in some lolita's minds, tights became associated with cheaping out.

Third, tights come in different deniers (sheerness) -- and girls don't always pick the right ones. Some girls would pick white tights to match with white or pastels, but when worn, their skin colour would turn the tights beige or offwhite. Since their legs were no longer white, their coords looked dirty by comparison. You won't have this problem with socks (that aren't made of tights material).

There's a few shoes, certain chunky tea party styles and boots, for eg, that look really weird when paired with semi-sheer tights rather than opaque legwear. Some shoes (eg JetJ pumps) do look better without socks or with tights instead, but girls seem happy to shove sheer-tights-clad legs into the inappropriate shoes, so eventually someone will tell them to wear socks instead of tights.

All in all, if you want to wear solid tights, it's not really looked down on. Just make sure you're on top of your game balancing the busy areas of your coord with the emptiness on your leg, balance the colours so that your legs don't stand out too much from your coord while still being colour-matched, pick the right denier so that when you put it on it's not too sheer or too opaque, and make sure your shoes look better with tights than with socks.

>>7796974
>Why not just plain tights?
it looks cheap especially if they are sheer or colored

>>7797318
And even longer ago, I remember people complaining that lace-topped ankle socks were sissy and not lolita at all. Flash forward several years and brands release them all the time, especially around summer.

Plain OTKs might be a good alternative when you want something simple and less flashy, but also a little warmer than tights. I just think it's a good idea to have several pairs on hand in basic colors in your wardrobe or at least matching your blouse colors. It's a bit easier to grab some plain old OTKs (and tights) rather than scour the web for weeks on end looking for a pair of socks that will perfectly match your coordinate's theme and the colors.

>>7797359
>tights
>any color except white/black

>>7797349
Wow that is so cheap...and here I am using treasureJapan and japonica like an idiot.

>>7797364
Is it also you posting in the coord thread or is this a thing now?

>>7795272
I would say Meta's dresses. I have a short torso, and I once had an OP from them, it looked so long on me.

What was the pancake bag that ended up going for $330's starting price? Or was it just listed for $330?
People are crazy about that bag; paying around $200 for it in good condition is reasonable, imo, but paying more than that for one that's damaged? Stupid.

How long does it take for Closet Child to ship out your items? I paid for the invoice 8 days ago and haven't heard from them

>>7797498
The pancake mix bag that came out with Honey Cake - I used mine at a meetup a few months ago and bitches were acting like I was destroying the value of a historical artifact or something.

>>7797598
I know what it was; I own it. I was asking what its starting price was.

>>7797589
you might consider contacting them, they are usually very fast.

>>7797589
For me it's usually one or two workdays at most.

is there any particular reason why my (very real) profile would be rejected from LSE

>>7797605
Sorry, I read your "what was the pancake bag" and didn't connect the rest of the sentence. English is my second language. Plus agreeing with your "people are crazy about that bag" with my story. I didn't see the beginning of the auction though so I am not sure the start price.

>>7796659
>>7796669
Thanks! I was hoping a pink coat would match my sweet wardrobe fairly well. Warmth isn't really a factor, since we very mild winters. I just want something that looks cute, haha.

Asked in the Indie thread but no response yet. What's the general seagull consensus on Rococo Soul?

I've been looking for cute dresses in sailor style in darker colors, and the few I've stumbled upon have been too short.
Now while browsing LM I stumbled upon the bodyline's sailor dress that I had absolutely no clue they had (I'm poorly updated on their clothes except their shoes), and now I'm confused about what I should do since the measurements are pretty good compared to my body. But Bodyline seem to be such a no-go and instant ita...would I be able to pull it off as a casual dress or lolita-inspired co-ord rather than actual lolita?

>>7795689
I wanna say she's about 20 or so? I don't think she's quite hit 21 yet. Last I heard some of the older Lolitas in HLC were thinking about making a 21 and up group specifically because she couldn't be in it, lmao.

>>7798060
I could be wrong though, but I know she's younger than 25.

>>7798048
I got this dress in the post today ( http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4004-5545451360.16.coD4De&id=39434880659 ) and it's gorgeous, cheap, and custom sized. They've got this sailor style dress you could look at ( http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4004-5545451360.8.dWAfcI&id=40007066241 ).

Also, BL is fine if you like their stuff and you could certainly treat it as Lolita, whether casual or not. They've got nice things and they've got ita things and the only qualm I have is that the quality's not so good but I haven't bought from them recently.

>>7797885

I've got some good stuff from them but they take FOR FUCKING EVER to get anything to a shopping service.

>>7798098
How long did you have to wait, anon?

>>7797885
I've only bought some accessories from them so far (gloves, a connotier, and some pins), but I'm waiting on their new gingham dress atm.
Quality for my accessories was good. I didn't experience any sort of wait like >>7798098 mentioned.

I'm in need of a short (15"), Aline petticoat with less poof. I have a smaller sized VGD petticoat but it's wayy too poofy. Any suggestions?

>>7795272
Victorian Maiden also makes many drop-waisted dresses, if you're into classic.

>>7795272
Bodyline l141 is drop waisted but the fabric is a bit shiny. Meta has a cute drop waisted jsk at the moment and I believe it is on sale.

>>7796066
Sure, tons. You can do braids, curls. Sidepiece bangs look great with a lot of styles if you don't mind having bangs that aren't a fringe. I look terrible with a fringe so I know this pain well.

>>7796639
I don't bother because I like to actually not be frozen in the winter, so I just wear my long heavy down coat over everything and fluff my petti back up after I take it off. But it's black, and most of my wardrobe is black, so it works out well enough I suppose.

I reserved this dress on a whim when I was depressed, but now when I got it I don't really feel that I honestly want it. I haven't even taken it out of it's package.
So of course, I want to sell it but I don't know how much I should ask for. I gave $130 for it so should I sell it for the same price?

>>7798381
I don't mean to belittle your depression (it's an absolute bitch) but I kinda keked

>feelin' depressed
>buys ultimate goth as fuck jsk

Why not try listing it on LM at that price then reduce it if no one buys it - it seemed relatively sought after if i remember rightly(?).

>>7798400
I'm not really a big fan of bright dresses, and I thought it looked cool at the time. On the other hand I listen too much to my inner goth when I shop sometimes kek

>>7798406
It is kinda cool anon, although I probably wouldn't wear it myself (the pentagram thing kinda ruins it for me, it's a bit kinda 'church of satan/occult yo' for my tastes).

Nothing wrong with unleashing the inner goth though, I only really let out the kek cuz of the feels

>book a holiday in Whitby, the town that inspired Dracula
>decide to goth it up and wear uber gothic lolita whilst there
>fall into deep depression a few weeks before
>realize I'm going to be a depressed goth at Whitby
>kek

Might as well go full circle and write terrible poetry whilst I'm at it (except too much effort, too depressed kek).

Perhaps you could go for a classic-gothic staple op or jsk in black next time, then you could decide how much you want to goth it up with make-up, accessories etc - it could end up being pretty versatile.

>>7788364
>>7788368
http://youtu.be/icfq_foa5Mo
Purple Velvet

>>7798381
There is a price check thread, you know.

>>7798469
Haha, at least you are going to fit the mood! I hope you feel better until then, no one deserves to go through any sort of depression.

I should, at least it's probably going to cheer me up a bit because I would laugh at myself. But I put the listing up on lacemarket now, to see how it goes. Thank you for the advice!

>>7798475
Sorry, I completely forgot about it until I saw your post now. I'll be sure to keep it in mind next time

>>7798469
Whitby is lovely, anon. I come from around there and get homesick all of the time.

>>7798296
Classical Puppets will custom size their daily A-line pettis.

>>7798069
Bodyline is sort of hit and miss. I bought one of their dresses that looks like absolute shit in the stock photo because it was super cheap and I was going to use it for Halloween, and it's fucking beautiful and really well made in reality.

>>7798381
What's the sizing on it?

I really wanted it, but I missed the reservation.

I've been waiting for Innocent World to invoice me for three days and it's making me paranoid. How long does it usually take them? Should I e-mail them? They're so bitchy. I don't want to get blacklisted.

>>7799025
They are slow sometimes, and I've never had an experience with them being bitchy or ever heard of them blacklisting people. That's Baby that does that. It will be okay, anon. Drink some tea and try to calm down.

>>7799025
They just take ages, especially when a popular release or sale happens. I have emailed them multiple times when waiting and no good comes of it. Ive found the customer service to be great and they are very friendly to me.

I ordered from AP using tenso and I'm nervous. Tenso says no cash on delivery, but that's the only way AP is letting me order. Am I fucked? Has this been asked 100 times before?

>>7799084
Yep. Wont go through. You have to wait til its in stock again on online store(if that happens) or use SS

>>7799095
Cries
Oh well, wasn't meant to be. Guess I'll wait for APUSA to get it. This won't like get me blacklisted forever will it?

>>7799084

The only things you can order from AP to Tenso are the ones where the "Add to cart" button is pink, not white. Then, on the payment pages, top payment option will be "pageant credit card settlement" (ペイジェント クレジットカード決済). The next screen will allow you to enter your credit card details. So next time, stick to the ones with the pink buttons if you want your order to go through.

The white buttons on the sales pages actually say "special order", AP has to request the items from another store. That's why credit card payment is not allowed. If they see a Tenso address they usually decline it as they know Tenso doesn't do cash on delivery. If you really want these items anyway, you can find another shopping service to order it for you, or submit a request to Tenso's shopping request page (http://www.tenso.com/en/agent/index.html).). There's no guarantee you can get the items, as it's possible they're sold out in all AP stores by the time they get around to checking for your request.

Has anyone else used the BTSSB US site successfully to request a special order from the Japan store? I just filled out the form on their site and I'm hoping that it all goes through correctly, can anyone else offer their experience?

>>7799130
Thanks for the info. Eh, I'll just wait for APUSA. I'm not dying to have it, in fact it's probably better this way.

http://egl.livejournal.com/19736470.html
>Am I special yet ?

>>7799173
The comm's been really special lately. Wish I screencapped that one entry about wanting to know people in the fashion without participating in the fashion before it was removed.

>>7799173
I think this person is just asking if it is looked down upon to be handmade lolita. Not special.

>>7799198
That was fucking creepy. It was a dude wanting to be friends "and more" with lolitas.

>>7799217
She asked if it was ok to make her own clothing, without researching it before hand, spilling all her life like the special snowflake she think she is.

>>7799155

I figured as much. Should have mentioned I'm posting it for future reference and for others who are reading this thread.

To reiterate: pink buttons are the ones you can order to Tenso succesfully.

is aatp roll rose old enough to be considered old school?

>>7798943

It's a size L (Bust: 90-102CM; Waist: 76-92CM; Skirt Length: 109.5CM)

I put it up both on lacemarket and lolita sales in english on facebook to see if anyone is interested.

I need to change the address on my order/invoice from IW (just got it). Is IW usually pretty good about these things, or will they just blacklist me like Baby used to?

Has anybody bought something from lockshop since they moved to Germany?
I need a new wig pretty soon and as I love my mermaid beachy one, I thought about ordering from them again. But now shipping inside Germany is more expensive than shipping was from the Netherlands to Germany? Am I missing something? Because that's really weird and I don't even know a reasonable shipping option that is THAT expensive (around 12 €).

I saw that somebody else asked the same question on their facebook page a month or so ago, without getting any answer.

>>7788326
Hey Seagulls I could use some advice! I'm looking to get into lolita and I was told this is the best place for it.

I was told that for beginners it's important to stick to one color and branch out from there. Problem is that I want to start in sweet but I don't actually think pink looks good on me. I like Gothic a lot too but I also feel like my face is too babyish for it. Not a fan of classic sadly.

Is it alright for me to selfpost my face and I get advice on whether or not I start in sweet or gothic? I don't think I'm ugly or anything but I don't want to invest a lot of time and money into something that will never look good on me. Sorry for the long post

>>7799449
Sweet=/= pink. You can wear other colours.

>>7799459
Oh really? Can dark colors be sweet too?

>>7799449
You can try a few things out, you dont need to stick to one style. It is just going to mean that you need to buy stuff for 2 outfits isntead of one. I reccomend going cheap if you are unsure, less of a waste.

>>7799459
>>7799474
There is sweet stuff that comes out in navy or black or a dark brown, but what they mean is that sweet isnt just for pink. Light blue and mint are common as well, lavender is a bit rarer but still there.

Can I wear a plain deflated Petti as an underskirt if I wear my normal poofy petti under it too?

>>7799495
Pettis arent really supposed to be seen, so it wont work as an underskirt. You can use it as a layering piece and stack pettis but otherwise no.

>>7799273
Old school is more about cut/style than the actual year something is made. The bodice style combined with how the skirt is cut definitely makes it look old school.

>>7790300
> shoulder
> 47cm
Really curious, where were you measuring to get that? Does shoulder mean something different in America? My shoulder is about 11.5cm and even my broad ahoiukderred friends don't go much above 14cm.

>>7799574
*shouldered
Wtf tablet.

>>7799523
Ok. I just really need an underskirt for a meet in a couple of weeks and is too short notice to Comission one I time.

>>7799581
It will look like a mistake, and not an underskirt. Is it possible you can borrow one?

>>7799629
Not really in pretty new too lolita and I don't have any lolita friends that are the same measurements as me. I could try and make one. I'm pretty good at sewing.

>>7799574
How are you measuring? 11.5cm seems very odd to me. It should be the length along your back from one shoulder to another.

>>7799574
Someone here doesn't know how to measure their shoulder width. It should be somewhere around 35 cm usually.

>>7793279
PDF girl here. Still haven't thought of a way to protect my IP when distributing PDFa online, and hell if I'm spending that much time and money grading and testing a pattern just to sell one copy and then have it leaked in Tumblr, haha. I was trying to think of a way of getting the printed, buts it's not very cheap for small runs, and I feel like the price would put off American buyers, and there seems to be somewhat more demand for this sort of thing in the US. I could maybe do what OnS does and only print the bodice pieces with instructions to draft the skirt part; that way I could just use an A3 plotter or something. I've had a bit of a crazy year, and I've been away from my machine for three months, so I haven't really been able to sit down and seriously consider it (and I don't want to rush into it without giving it proper thought and planning).

>>7799672
The actual making of an underskirt isnt hard, but you really have to plan out the design. Try to make it look like it is part of the dress. Main thing is to match the colors and that you know that you need to get the pettis to reach that length. A lot of the issues with people wearing underskirts is that their pettis are not long enough to catch the end, making it look off.

>>7799574
Shoulder span is from one shoulder across the back to your other shoulder, not just the width of the shoulder.

>>7799687
I was taught to measure from the base of the nexk to the edge of the shoulder. Average is around 12.5cm.

>>7799702
See above for what a shoulder measurement means in the UK. That measurement you posted I've never seen before, and doesn't appear in any of my textbooks. It must be a US thing. The closest thing we have is cross back, which is from one underarm to the other. (And by the way, I know about measuring. My tutor studied under Winifred Aldrich, who literally wrote the book on measuring/drafting. I was only asking because I've been seeing odd shoulder measurements around the internet lately and I was wondering where they were coming from.)

>>7799714
Still >>7799736
I think I got confused by people just referring to it as shoulder, haha. It makes more sense when you call it shoulder width or shoulder span.

>>7799707
ThankYou for the tips.

>>7799736
Oh ok, maybe it depends on where you live. I graduated from a fashion design school in Europe and shoulder width (as the picture) is one of the basic measurements we always use. It's usually referred as shoulder measurement only. The measurement you are talking about is a bit more rare way to measure a clothing item or a client and when it's used it's always referred as shoulder to neck measurement here. Of course the more measurements you have the better.

>>7799198
I can't look at egl anymore. It's so painful to look at posts there, most shit is easily googleable or has been asked a hundred times. I've only been in the fashion a few months and I'm sick of the "babby's first 'why are lolitas so meen'" or "is milanoo bad to buy from" posts

>>7799736
Just a note that I don't think it's just a US thing since I've seen the Chinese and Japanese use it as well.

>>7790188
This kind of shit makes me feel like her next step would be to collect payment and then never ship it out. It reaks of both idiocy and scammer to me

>>7799025
For me it's consistently been two to three weeks for the past half a year. Email them after a week and a half to two weeks. I've never really had them be bitchy with me at all though, and I never hear of them blacklisting except for missed payments?

Does anyone know which Japanese SS can be used to order goods that are on a long pre-order? Closer to a video game style reserve than a lolita one, I guess.

>>7799282
What would shipping to the US be out of curiosity?

...Is anybody else noticing that the time left on Lacemarket sales has been frozen? I've been refreshing the page on an item I'm watching and it hasn't changed all day.

>>7803234
Is it still doing this? I hadn't noticed but I'm going to look now.

Though on the topic of LM, has anyone else noticed that the tightening up of moderation is getting to the point of being a bit silly like the comm sales? I swear at least 3 items I was interested in this week have had mods demanding some tiny piece included in the pic or "better" photos or whatever in 24 hours or post deletion. And in most of the specific listings it seemed sort of not a big deal.

But I was thinking about it because I never get notifications of comments to listings, so I feel bad for anyone whose listing gets deleted because they didn't even get a notif of mod comment because the site's still so broken. And one mod wanted an edit even though the auction was in progress and the seller couldn't edit? So I think some of the mods don't know how the site really works, either. I was wondering if anyone actually had a listing deleted on them mid-auction or without notification.