/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Haha wait shit the cosplay acts are at 15:00.
13:00 maybe?

Holy crap, is that the entire program? Nothing happens on Friday until like 17:00.
And on Sunday it basically ends at 15:00.

It's like they planned to get out of bed late on Friday and want to go home early on Sunday, with a big screw you to the day visitors. And to do that, let's push everything onto saturday.

I will definately have to have fun with my friends, because the program will not do it for me.

>>7777066
Yeah... the friday especially is quite... bad. There's literally nothing the first two hours. This is why I'm especially happy I managed to get a hold of a saturday ticket still.
On top of that they've got things overlapping each other in illogical ways on saturday. Shironuri lecture and lolita fashion show at the same time? BJD meet and lolita 101 at the same time? If you'd space those out, you could entertain a j-fashion oriented person for a full day.
And I'm bummed the DDR heavy comp, SSBB comp and the CAC are all at the same time.
Ah well.

I'm still down for a cgl meet, lolita fashion show ends at 11:30 so practicality anything after that time would be fine. Except for 15:00 because cosplay acts as another anon pointed out.

I'm fine with anything, as long as it's not on friday. I have to be at the stage early for the cfs.

>>7777340
Haha yeah that was me, I realized my mistake right away.
Should we say saturday 13:00, main entrance then?
Since I'm expecting that to be a busy spot, the question still remains: how do we recognize each other?

>>7777147
>>7777066
Agreed, the schedule is trash. I wanted to see both the lolita fashion show and the shironuri lecture goddamnit.

>>7776600
a meetup?
y-yeah I'm not gonna admit irl that I'm on this site

>>7776600
Awww, it's my first Abunai too..

Also I'm totally not stressing at all to finish 3 cosplays h-haha

>>7778502
Your loss, anon, we gon' have fun without you.
Really though, I know plenty of people from the loli community go here at least occasionally. A bunch of them have posted in the draw threads.

>>7778642
I know a lot that are on here, but a large part of the comm is cgl negative thinking it doesn't go beyond ita threads and drama. I can imagine it being social suicide to go to a cgl meet up.

>>7778650
True, true... but I'm not sure if I care enough. I've never been that into the main comm and I'm pretty sure they don't care about me at all. If I can have fun with cgl, then why would I let them stop me?
And even so, I'm not sure the judgement would be that bad. If that many of them are on here, then how negative could they actually be about it?
Plus it's not like we've got to plaster pictures of the meetup all over facebook and cgl. I'd honestly be surprised if many people would find out about who was there at all.
But hey, your call.

Why is there almost no info here about who is entering the cosplay contests at Abunai? I thought they were filled completely but I haven't seen anyone work on it yet!

Is it going to be worth it this friday to watch?

>>7778791
What else are you gonna do on Friday? Might as well check it out.

>>7778791
A couple friends of mine are entering, but I'm not sure if they'd appreciate being posted here

Is anyone going to that ball? I don't really see the appeal in it tbh..

So who got fucked by Abunai?

Hotel room, Tickets, CAC... they seem to mess up pretty big this year

>>7779012
It starts pretty late so I'd only be able to go for an hour. I'm not expecting much of it. Buncha nerds that don't know how to dance. I'm probably not going. Couldn't they just have moved the entire friday schedule forward by an hour?

>>7779100
Whu-oh. I paid for my tickets last week and don't have them yet. Maybe I should start bothering them about it. You got any deets on other screw-ups?

>>7779289
The ball at animecon wasn't really interesting too. was there for 5 minutes and just went beer drinking instead.

>>7779100
> geabunaaid

fuck I laughed, but seeing this makes me glad I decided to not go this year

I guess i can make 15:00
I'm dressed as Roronoa Zoro from thriller bark (after kuma encounter).
So yeah I have never been there, so don't know where to meet

>>7779100
My friend ordered her ticket months ago and still hasn't received it. I'm honestly not too bummed she isn't coming though, as we've been on bad terms lately.

>>7779636
It's at 13:00 now, sorry for the confusion. The cosplay acts are at 15:00 and people want to see that.

Could people, like... rsvp? There were a lot more people saying they'd like to meet in the previous thread. It's not really worth it if only three people are gonna show up.

Also how do we recognize each otherrr. I don't really feel like carrying a big "HEY I'M FROM 4CHAN" sign around.

>>7779718
Just squawk like a seagull, we'll find you. Anyway, I mentioned I was interested in the last thread. I'll be cosplaying as Takane Enomoto from Kagerou Project on Saturday.

>>7779718
Somehow incorporate a seagull in our outfits?

>>7779734
I shall do just that.

>>7779739
Obligatory sailor dresscode?

>>7779751
Now I only need a sailor lolita outfit, too bad I don't have one

>>7779718
I'll be there too. Please squawk loudly.

>>7779718
Okay 13:00 it is.
I will squawk really loud, so you know which thriller bark zoro is me ;)

Keepin' this thread alive til saturday~
You know, in case some people only go on cgl once a week.

Maybe I'll just awkwardly stare at you guys from a distance
>would fit right in with the rest of the con

Almost time!
Let's keep this thread alive.
What cosplays are you hoping to see?

>>7783622
I don't want to see any more AoT or shit la shit :(

>>7783622
It honestly kind of baffles me that there's so little acitivity in these threads, even though the con is right around the corner.

Anyway, I'd really love to see some Yowamushi Pedal cosplayers. I also second >>7783647.

>>7783647
oh wel umm yeah fuck snk i guess haha.....

goin as probably random survey corps member or levi. still not sure.
so fuckin down for the meet tho.
please be gentle guise

God I still need to go pick up some stuff at home and pack my shit. I'm actually excited for the con itself but holy fuck I can't motivate myself to pick up that stuff.

>>7783672
You'll have to wait 'till next year anon!
I'll be cosplaying YowaPeda with a friend next year Animecon, or maybe Tsunacon.

>>7783647
Aww I'm personally really hoping to see some good kill la kill. Haven't been to any cons since it came out. I'd want to do Nonon myself but I'm not a tiny asian.

I'd be super excited to see anyone from Wadanohara, but it's not very well known at all so I don't expect to.
I'd also love to see Fire Emblem!

>>7783690
Pls do at Animecon, I will be there to shower you with compliments. Who are you cosplaying?

>>7783859
Yeah, good Fire Emblem cosplays I'll also be looking out for. And a Wadanohara cosplay is on my neverending wishlist...

Whelp.. I think I've got everything. Anything I've forgotten?

>>7783975
Needs more booze anon, otherwise you're set

>>7783975

How is the nightlife at abunai since everything closes at night?

>>7783859
>>7783936
I love Wadanohara, I read on the Aniway forums that someone is going as her. She's my next cosplay too, haha.

>>7784104
I keep hear stories of hotelroomparties of Dragoncon-ish proportions. I guess that's what you get when you're not the one providing the congoers with a night-program.
People start fending for themselves.

>>7784133
Okay, now I'm definitely gonna stock up some on some booze.

Anyone happens to know if there is a waterboiler/coffeemachine in the nh koningshof rooms?

Am I the only one who thinks drinking and partying in a cosplay is the stupidest thing ever... ? Just doesn't suit cosplay in my opinion. Seeing a wasted naruto rekking stuff and puking on himself would be funny though.

>>7784301
of all the times I had a room there, they did have waterboilers.

>>7784069
Could you tell me where this is from? It looks funny

>>7784392
>implying drinking and partying automatically makes people reck stuff and puke
uh, have you ever drunk alcohol in your life? If not, you're missing out.

Also, if they didn't want us to drink and party, they wouldn't have a party each night

>>7784896
I have no idea, sorry. I've got a few others gifs from it though, if you want them.

Who's going to the concert?

Is everybody excited!!! I know I am!! I just finished my last cosplay tonight and am just now done packing. Now to bed so I'm not a zombie on the first day already.
See you tomorrow everyone!

>>7785296
nah that's okay, thanks for replying though!

>>7786303
yes

>>7786303
Just done with packing, now the anxious wait until it's time to leave

>>7786977
that feel

atleast i have a driving lesson before i go

Fuck! Why am I not done packing!

>>7785296
>>7786766
Actually, on second thought, can you post them? I might get more chance in the future of someone knowing it.

>>7786977
>not sleeping in until you have to leave

If I didn't have to work, I'd know how to spend my pre-abunai time

>>7787016
Erp, sorry anon, I just left for the con. If this thread is still alive when I get home I'll post them.

>>7784896
Different anon, but:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SxLINOn_SU
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvAWSojRDMY

Wow, I thought this thread would be more active, since there is free wifi at the intire con...

So, any stories about the first night? Hookups?

Where da fuk is everybody

>>7787298
What the fuck this guy is so creepy

Every single one of you has disappointed me.
Did literally no one show up, or did we just completely miss you guys?

>>7783936
Hi Anon! I'm really amazed I met you at the con! But for some reason I can't find you at Facebook...

>>7789484
I wasn't at the con yet, too much party the night before

It was okay.
Convention was not that good but had loads of fun with friends.

I'm so glad I was participating in an event that was active the whole con, because I was bored as fuck :| Also the dealerroom was really garbage this year.

>>7790989
what event was that?

Anyone else feel like they've barely done anything this weekend? It really felt like there wasn't much to do.

>>7789484
I think we all missed each other. I was there but didn't see anyone there, I even squawked

>>7791065
the Pokemon League thing

I had a lot of fun, but it was mostly because of the people, not really the con itself. Dealer room was ok, I guess, not very spectacular. I personally was happy with the high amount of general kawaii shit.

Level of cosplay was surprisingly okay, but I didn't see many spectacular outfits. Even the fashion show was... meh. (What the actual fuck at the femshep winning tho? Her acting was fucking horrendous. We literally burst out laughing at it. And apparently, you can shoot a shotgun one-handed now.)
But I think we can all agree that Him was the best cosplay this con. Man. Wish I got a picture. That was awesome.

Also the ballpit was way too popular for a sarcastic joke. But I loved it anyway.

>>7791217
GDI that's so disappointing. We squawked too. But not very loudly, because we didn't have the balls. We really need a better way to find each other next time.

>>7791313
I also cant think of any reason why that fem shep won the cosplay competition, except that there was just nothing Else really that stood out.The make up and the hair looked completely off and the costume was just meh. my personal favorite was the demon hunter and kinda liked the divercity of all the costumes. Will go watch fashion show again next year 7/10

It was boring.. Mostly same old crap.. Only the Mangakissa had some funny new events.

The only thing that started on time and where you could have genuinely fun was the bar.

Also, what the flipping was with the masked ball? Massive amount of people showing up, they held it in the tiniest room they could find.
And then I checked out the friday rave. But I pointed my feet elsewhere when I looked inside. I almost tought they let Power2All back at the buttons.

" I almost tought they let Power2All back at the buttons."

^this, so much this!! it was just loud and obnoxious. People were leaving after the DJ changed. I don't get you keep playing the same loud, no-beat, shit if you see the crowd leaving. the whole damn floor was almost empty at a certain point.

that said. Deshima Sounds was really amazing. had so much fun there. their live-show-act was really cool also. i like how they mix up things and try out new stuff for their events. much props for that. I really liked the music from them. had a blast dancing with friends and just people in general enjoying themselfs.

>>7791313
You actually wanted that Him cosplay to win? You could see the fucking duct tape from the audience where we were sitting!

I was happy with the winners at the cosplay shows
I was happy with the AMV results
I was happy with the overall cosplay quality at this convention
I was happy with my loot from the dealerroom

But I wouldn't be here if I didn't had anything to complain about. The program of this convention was very lacking as some have also already pointed out. I've had lots of times where I had nothing to do. The amount of good cosplays I could take pictures with certainly made up for that, but that still isn't really the work of the convention itself.

I found the amv results really weird. Hadn't even remembered first place.

>>7792290

Deshima Sounds was awesome!
Probably the only event that didn't had me thinking "have I paid 50 bucks for this?".

Also, ballpit.

>>7792344
First place was this one: http://youtu.be/_LkdvuZMsPo

There was so little to do..

I was pretty happy with Deshima Sounds and playing magic the gathering (I see more people playing it every year and that while part of the organisation hates it because it ain't Japanese), but jeeze.. Besides that?

There were some events I wanted to attend, but they were either full or cancelled without reason/notice.

>>7792249
I wasn't really serious, anon. His construction wasn't good at all, no. Part of the fluff near his butt had come loose as well, which was very distracting. Point is, he was fun. He was really fun. His act was pretty good, his acting was great, and I'm pretty sure everyone loved him even if his construction was meh. That's why he got the special mention, I guess.

I just loved that dude. I missed more stuff like that at the con. Like I said, not many spectacular outfits, even if the general level of cosplay was pretty damn okay.

the overal convention was okay. I mostly hung out with my friends. But am I the only one that come to conventions only for the night rave parties?

I do like the friday night party. The two british DJ's were great. Although not really suitable for the convention, they had a interesting choice of music. But the last DJ was really horrible. I know it ain't Power2All, but for a moment there I thought it was him..

Deshima Sounds on the other hand, Every year I see those guys get better and better. I thought last year was sick, but this year they amazed me the fuck out. The sound, the choice of music, just brilliant. People complained about playing too much dubstep shit, but I think they actually had a great balance between dubstep and other styles.
But the thing they stood out the most and what was also a total surprise, was their live act thingy. They really set up a great quality show. And the DJ behind the mic, he did surprisingly good and has lots of interaction with the crowd. The whistles, stars and flags.. Who thought of that was a pure genius.
The other two guest DJ's are really really good, and has a great music taste.

Up to next year!

Is anyone interested in a dump of pictures from the con?

>>7778650
> social suicide
What

>>7792772
That's a pretty common term, anon.

femshep act was good and the costume was amazing, except indeed, that was not a 1 handed gun. but y'all jealous. cosplay act and amv results were BS.

>>7792799
according to your deduction then you are jealous about the cosplay act and amv...

>>7792817
you're implying that I think the femshep should've won. Please google what a deduction is.

>>7792764
Yes!

>>7792822
no i didn't imply that at all. Please stop since you are making a fool of yourself..

>>7792844
no. cant stop wont stop.

Ik ben een neger

>>7792799
The M6 is handled 2-handed throughout the game for accuracy. but an injured shepard at the end of the game has not trouble one-handing it.

(major spoilers ofc.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AqZofMl2Fs#t=305

>>7791313
>But I think we can all agree that Him was the best cosplay this con. Man. Wish I got a picture. That was awesome.

Girls, it was either Sheppard or demon hunter. The rest would have had no chance in eurocosplay. I could see flaws on all of them over 15 rows away. I guess the judges thought Sheppard was better from up close. Personally I thought differently but, yeah, 15 rows away. I do think Sheppard is easier to fix improve since I recon that the suit is made more modular.

The show was weird though. I thought it was filled really fast but there were like 20 acts. And in the fashion show, group acts.

>>7792912

Am I the only one that really enjoyed the cosplay fashion show? Or the convention at all?

I fucking loved this Abunai. I participated in a lot of events, most of which started on time, the layout was pretty clear, dressing rooms were available, cosplay was generally good, dealer room was fairly okay (though lots of shit was sold out when I got the time to browse), bag rules were reasonable..

and most of all, I had a really good time, and paid almost nothing for sleeping accommodation. I'd do it all over again if I could

>>7792912

Demon hunter wouldn't have had much of a chance at Eurocos. I mean, Shepard had a stageprop, smoke. Just too many points in that department no matter how much better the Demon hunter custome was.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were a lot of drop-out last minute. People were getting notices 1-2 weeks before the con that a spot came up for them to join. so lame, people who duck out at the last moment should just be temporarily banned from joining in the future.

>>7792832
Alrighty!

>>7792954

>>7792958

>>7792799
the amv winner was indeed bs... the winner wasn´t that special..

>>7792907
He should´ve won first price he was the best and the most original.
I liked the fact they held a secret cosplay competition. But I hated the facted they let another Zelda win. her costume was amazing but I see amazing zelda´s every convention. its not that special anymore.

>>7792926
you´re not the only one anon.
I had a blast. And now I have PCD.

>>7792969

>>7792980
>And now I have PCD.
I have no idea what that is.

The touhous were great at abunai, though. I saw a lot of them.

Personally, I was really disappointed.

I skipped the conventions last year due to money troubles.
When I went to Animecon I was really surprised to see the improvements. It was a totally different level. I expected Abunai to improve as well. Instead I found the exact same convention as 2 years ago: almost the same program, almost the same problems with hotels, almost the same issues with sound. Only real improvents were on saturday: the band was much better and the the rave seemed more intense. Maybe I'm going to conventions for too long but aside from the saturday evening the only thing to keep me there were my friends.

>>7793017
Post con depression

>>7793017
Post Con Depression, pretty lame term IMO

>>7792994

>>7793048

>>7793055

>>7793060

Any Kill La Kill cosplays?

>>7793091
Quite a few, but I didn't take pictures of them.

Just read something about a possible drug and rape attempt during the saturday rave. While that sucks, turns out these guys did not have bracelets and walked around for hours freely.

Great going, that security.

>>7793275
Nah I don't believe that. they where doing double checks at both the entrances for deshima and they also checked at the main entrance. So I call bullshit on this story. And if that really happened we would've heard more about it by now.

>>7793275
where did you read this?

>>7793309
It was fairly easy to just walk in using the hotel entrance, though. You pretty much walk in from the back of the building so if you're wearing long sleeves nobody will notice your lack of a bracelet.

I heard that gophers were confiscating any food brought into the convention, including food carried in bags that was for eating in personal hotel rooms and so on. Apparently they changed the rules so you weren't allowed to have any store or home brought food anywhere on the convention, including your hotel room.

Any truth to this? I thought it was strange since the rules in the booklet or on the site didn't mention anything about it.

>>7793275
I read this on facebook. It seems rather unbelieveable, although I did see a monk walking around. Never saw the other guy mentioned.

>>7793333
I brought my own drinks and a friend of mine had some food. Never got checked or apprehended.

>>7793309

Actually I heard that from a gopher. A girl was drugged and she was then lost for a good hour.

>>7793333
never got checked on food in my bag, but I heard someone shout when I walked with a closed pizza box. I just walked on, because it's perfectly legal to bring food to your own hotel room as long as its closed.

>>7793330
Yeah but still they checked for a bracelet at the entrance for events and stuff,
>>7793333
Again a bs rumor. I saw other people drink stuff that wasnt hotel bought so I think this is just typical cgl bullshit talk.

I'll also dump some pics then, although I only ended up making 6 of them.

>>7793408

>>7793408
I'm not sure why the images are uploading flipped sideways? They're upstraight on my pc. Oh well.

>>7793408

>>7793408
I didn't notice her eyes were closed on this pic, too bad I haven't taken another one. Oh well.

>>7793333
I was carrying food I brought with me around the entire con, never got checked either.

>>7793408

>>7793361
Actually, this rule is as old as there are anime conventions. It's just common sense, you wouldn't bring a crate of beer to a bar either.

Altough ACon typically just warns people with a stern "please eat that stuff outside, ma'am", Abunai goes for the "sod off or it's mine".
I remember back when I was a gopher at Abunai (when it was held in Zwolle) a staffmember dropped a stack of pizzaboxes in the gopherlounge. "Free eatings guys!" and then went on proudly telling he got these confiscated.

Truth to be told, it kinda gotten out of hand, I mean, I saw people having entire picknicks in the hallways with AH bags filled with bread and energydrinks and booze.
And there were these nasty rumors among the gophers about how the hotel was going to charge Abunai for all the drinks that was not bought in the hotel.

>>7793408
>>7793060
Same duo, different pic

>>7793538
that's hard to imagine for a convention in the netherlands. I mean there's food at the efteling and such but everyone still brings their own. And that's just really rude to take food and eat it yourself. >_> there shouldn't be anything wrong with eating in your hotelroom and bringing the food in closed packages to the hotel room.
Picnics are maybe a bit too much, I dont care, but people should be allowed to eat sandwiches

>>7793548
That's because Dutch are chronic cheapskates.. Just because everyone is doing it, doesn't mean it's right or allowed.

It's not about being allowed a sandwich. It's the people who work in the venue, being allowed to make a decent living. Bringing your own food to an eatery is like stealing the bread from the hardworking people's tables. If you fail to grasp that basic rule, maybe going to conventions isn't for you.

>>7793538
Did you see the pizza tower?

>>7793591
It's one thing to tell people sitting around picnicing at a convention to cut it out.

It's another to confiscate food from people heading towards their hotel room though. Unless Koningshof actually has rules against eating food in your room?

>>7793591
>>7793538
>>7793361

sorry this is bullshit. people were told not to drink and eat in some places like the game room and the dealer room to prevent damages. Also, larger meals such as pizza and sandwiches should be consumed in the restaurants or outside.

In addition, it was not allowed to drink alcohol unless it was served by them.

these are all pretty common rules. Abunai doesn't own the place, they don't want to pay for clean-up of food spills. The dealers don't want spills on their manga, the game people don't want dirty controllers and alcohol consumption is always frowned upon in the Netherlands unless you're at a bar or at home.

I did not see any food/drinks being "confiscated", other than people voluntarily abandoning their drinks and food when they didn't want to finish or or walk back to store it somewhere

there's a lot of people that want to talk smack about abunai, and unfounded rumours are unfair towards their hard work. You should be glad there even are anime conventions in the Netherlands; a country that has almost zero anime on television and thus has a tiny ass fanbase

Wat een kanker verschrikkelijke vertoning weer.

>>7793591

Ehm. No. Bringing your own food to a convention and hotel is more than normal. If you're going on holiday, you'd buy your own food. If you've got allergies, you'd bring your own food. If you got a specific diet, you'd bring your own food. Hotels don't serve a large variety of food.
Your comparison is silly because a hotel is not just about food. You know what you don't bring to a hotel? Your own bed.

Typically Dutch, talking about food and the economics of a hotel, while people on facebook are going apeshit about those rapedrug peddling carnaval-cosplayers.
Anybody care to share some insights about that?

>>7793627
Kruip even terug in je sociale isolatie please, het topic liep nog best aardig voor je overbodige stinkense aanwezigheid.

>>7792926
Word up my friend, I really enjoyed This conventionele, people were all friendly and accomodating and generally awesome.

It really helps to not mix yourself with the same pathethic drinking drug using lowlives that are spewing their shit on 4chan now.

Seriously guys, make some dramu lacking friends and have some goddamn fun for a change instead of your endless tedious whine

>>7793766
"Conventionele", lol, in before that breaks out.

>>7793740
Not really. The Abdijbar is way too expensive, so we wouldn't know.

>>7791666
Oh shit, I saw that guy outside of the game room on sunday. He was spouting Butthead quotes the whole time.

On a sidenote, anyone got any nice photos of the Fi and Airy cosplays? Those were really nice.

>>7793591
I will stop bringing my own food if they start charging decent prices.

Buying a 2 euro pizza from the store and selling it for 7.50 is highway robbery.

If the hotel didn't want us to bring outside food, they shouldn't have had such gross and overly expensive food.
Those pizza's for €7.5? Those were frozen pizza's from Dr. Oetker (we saw the boxes when it was late and they didn't try to hide it anymore) that weren't even baked properly. The fries and hamburgers were disgusting too, and I took a bite from my friends' veggie-pizza-slice and it was all flabby and cold.

In short, the food was awful and too expensive! Unless they changed their entire food-selection (because why wouldn't they rip off those "lower class anime tards"?), I have no idea how they got their stars.

Also, the staff was incredibly rude, it's not because I'm wearing a costume, that I like to be treated like a pest.

>>7794757
I also like to add that while I'm incredibly disappointed at the hotel, I'm really content about the abunai staff, they were friendly and nice and didn't seem too bad about the rules this year.
(allthough I still don't get how they have this much people for the cosplay acts every year and still manage to fuck up the waiting line)

>>7794757
>Also, the staff was incredibly rude, it's not because I'm wearing a costume, that I like to be treated like a pest.

this man.. all right I was crossplaying, but that doesn't mean I want silly remarks being said to me behind my back by the hotel staff. Jeez, grow up it's not the first time you've seen it.

but abunai staff <3 thank you!!

>>7793613
This so much. I know there are 1 or 2 guy or girls who are just posting bullshit and making up dumb rumors just to make abunai look bad.
I personally had a blast everything was well organised. the food prices were high but thats normal. some events got canceled but thats not their fault. I miss everybody already and I can't wait until animecon 2015 and abunai 2015.

no go and smack talk tsunacon or epicon those are actually really bad.

Guys,
Looking for a picture of a cute girl in trafalagar law shirt and hotpants. She was there on friday.
Anybody?

>>7795113
Well, abunai could have been better.
I heard epicon should have had a booth but I missed it. Any interesting there?

>>7795113
>the food prices were high but thats normal
if you think €7.50 for frozen pizza is normal, okay then

>>7795246

Actually, their table remained empty the whole weekend.. I walked past it, on friday evening, and found it odd that there was an empty table. But there was a piece of paper on it that said "Epicon stand".

I assume that was the last we ever saw of Epifail.

>>7792907
That's pretty sad that a non-anime character is the best costume at an anime con.

The friday disco really was not my taste, it sucked, were are the anime remixes!?

yeah indeed, phil has to stay in the UK with his kitacon. y u know we dutchies

Did anybody attend one of the 18+ events? I saw they finally had these.. Apparently, there was a seperate yaoi and hentai event.

the thing about the date rape drugs is confirmed by abunai on facebook. the steward manager said so himself and he wanted info from anyone that has something on the matter.

the only complain I really had that the hired security was really grumpy and quite harsh at times.. like when the night disco's ended they just barked people outside the venue where the party was held. stewards didn't even got the chance to help us leave the room. =/

fuck the security.. lame as twat. someone punched me in the face and they just stand looking though we were friends. thanks for the dude that gave me a blue eye. (17 year old girl)

>>7795278
nothing has been confirmed..

>>7795255
Well it's your choice for going with the frozen pizza XD, there was a 3-course meal available for €19 per person, and also an à la carte restaurant with approx 10€ meals

Then again, the hotel's restaurant was pretty empty most the weekend, I'm not sure people realized the food court wasn't the only place to eat

>>7795255
Ofcourse its not normal, but it is normal for a convention.

For the ones who went to Abunai:

Has anyone bought any anime figues? And how expensive were they?

>>7795483
Bought one figurine for 22 euros, decently priced for a large one, considering how you'd pay out the ass for shipping usually.

Figurine prices were anywhere from 5 to 100+ euros depending on the figure so it's hard to give you a good estimate. It was more or less average con price

>>7795382
it was still the least expensive, some people just don't have or want to give more money.
But also, I automatically assumed the restaurant would be very expensive

>>7795385
The food was arranged by the hotel, a five star hotel to be exact, not the convention

>>7795274
I went to see the hentai panel. The yaoi/yuri panel was still going on when I arrived, so I got to see a bit of that too.

Yaoi and Yuri showed the first and second episode of certain series of that genre.

Hentai hour was pretty much the same thing, screenings of random, censored hentai.
Most of them were weird or exaggerated, so I got a few laughs out of it. Was dissapointed at the lack of tentacle porn though.

>>7795499
Sounds like a reasonable price.
I've bought a second hand Haruhi Suzumiya figurine at Animecon this year for like €26. She stands 15 cm's tall and now when I look at it, I could've bought something more detailed for that price. ;_; I still love her though.

>Going off-topic here but..

Are there any cheap webstores you recommend for buying anime figs? Archonia is overpriced as fuck.

>>7795514
>it was still the least expensive, some people just don't have or want to give more money.
well this is your own poor choice, in that case. When I go to a con, I expect to pay about €100 for entrance, food and drinks, and I spend approx 100-200€ on merchandise, workshops, transport. In addition, I buy costumes and customize them for approx 50-100€

If you're on a budget, then make the right choices and don't go to a con.

>>7795518
Not that anon, but if you're looking for european webstores, I suggest websites like figuya, yorokonde and ixu's deviance.

For Japanese sites I recommend Amiami and Nippon Yasan. Yasans' shipping is expensive though, so it's best to use them if you want to buy multiple things.

>>7795541
I'll check out those sites. Many thanks, anon! >Time to empty my wallet.

>>7795483
I bought a Kaworu Figurine for 30 euros. It´s super detailed and Im really happy with it .-

>>7795541
I'm not the person you're commenting on, but I must say I really hate buying figmas, manga, or anything otaku-related off the internet

The shipping and import-duties are always such a rip off, especially when you're buying from Asian websites. I think I genuinely get better deals at cons, and usually when I ask the clerk for a lower price, they can honor it.. For one there's no issue with shipping costs, import duties or all that bullshit, and second I can choose the item I like and tell if it's been damaged or whatever. then I can take it home with me in confidence that I got exactly what I wanted

>>7795593
While I do agree that import taxes really screw you over when you live in Europe, It's not necessarily true that buying at cons is less expensive.

Most (if not all) dealers at Abunai were from Europe, they also have to pay taxes and shipping to get those products. They include those costs in the sale price.
They also have to add more money to the sale price on top of that, because they need to make a profit to continue their bussiness.

> I saw a few figures I own for sale at 2 times the price I paid for it, taxes and shipping included.

Also, with buying at cons, you have to take into account that there's always the risk that you buy a bootleg product. Not everyone can distinguish a good deal from a scam. If you buy from official websites, you don't have to worry about that.

You can find a good deal at a con every once in a while, but only buying at cons isn't a cheap alternative from webstores.

And in the Netherlands we have a pretty strict bootleg policy. When you order online you so not always know if the article is legit.

>>7795746
>Most (if not all) dealers at Abunai were from Europe, they also have to pay taxes and shipping to get those products. They include those costs in the sale price.
They also have to add more money to the sale price on top of that, because they need to make a profit to continue their bussiness.

dude I know, I'm not retarded. But if I buy a figure at abunai for €25 that costs €20 at amiami, and I buy nothing else, the figure will cost me €100 if I import it from Japan.

Importing shit yourself only starts getting interesting if you buy like €200 worth of shit in one go and I just don't feel confident spending that sort of money on the internet without even seeing the product.

>>7795747
do you know anything about this?

I bought a couple of Haruhi DVDs that were like €5 a piece.. and €8 for the film. they don't have one of those multi-colour shines on the box. Maybe i've been brainwashed into thinking that anime DVDs are always expensive, or I got myself a nice stack of bootlegs now.

>> 7795751
> But if I buy a figure at abunai for €25 that costs €20 at amiami, and I buy nothing else, the figure will cost me €100 if I import it from Japan.

You don't have to pay taxes for products that have a value lower than 22 euros, so that's a bad example.

More realistically: if you buy for example a nendo from Amiami that costs 25 euros, and pay 10 euros shipment, you'd get 7 euros customs. So you'd pay 42 euros in total. The price almost doubled, I know, but chances that a european dealer is selling an item that has a value of 20 euros for only 25 euros are really, really slim. Especially with the whole 'profit' thing going on.

In my experience, nendo's often go for 55-65 euros at cons. So in this scenario, you could've saved at least 13 euros.

I can understand why some don't like the idea of importing things themselves through the internet. And that's fine, as long as it doesn't bother you that you could've gotten the item cheaper elsewhere.

>>7795747
Iunno anon, there are plenty of fake alpacassos at dutch cons...

>>7795269
>Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)15:58:22 No.7795269▶
>The friday disco really was not my taste, it sucked, were are the anime remixes!?

ga terug in je kelder jonge. :') anime remixen.

iddno but 70 euro nendoroids? my ass.
even with customs amiami is way cheaper.
and cleaming they were "rare".. :D

just buy more at once. no QQ.

>>7795827

dus je gaat naar een con.
en gaat huilen om anime muziek.

blijf dan thuis.

>>7795834

nee. ik huil niet om anime muziek. ik ben enorm blij dat het er niet was.

>>7795269

huilie.
ga lekker weaboo muziek maken dan .

>>7795842
>>7795840
Eh, wat? Het is een animeconventie, wat verwacht je anders?

Hello, i like ducks

En jij moet echt het land uit jonge

>>7795849
normale muziek.
waarop je normaal kan dansen.
ik hoef geen weaboo disco k

>>7795824
>More realistically: if you buy for example a nendo from Amiami that costs 25 euros, and pay 10 euros shipment, you'd get 7 euros customs. So you'd pay 42 euros in total. The price almost doubled, I know, but chances that a european dealer is selling an item that has a value of 20 euros for only 25 euros are really, really slim. Especially with the whole 'profit' thing going on.

all right, but the postal service adds another 12.50 to that. so your example would cost (25+10)×1.21 + 12.50 = €54.85

I just don't feel good about paying more in transport and customs fees than the item is worth, that's ridiculous. and in your example it wouldn't even be cheaper to import it yourself if the item goes for €55 at cons..

>>7795863
fok jou man , waarom ga je naar een con?

disco ligt om de hoek als je op crappy radiomuziek en foute 90s hits wil "dansen". Als ik naar een con ga wil ik ook dingen doen die ik buiten die con niet kan doen.

>>7795869
I never paid that much tho..
highest I get for a nendo is like 35? shipping is SAL so really low. and customs isn't too bad for one nendo! So I wonder how you would get 55 in total ;o

>>7795876
I was describing worst case scenario

I've also requested sellers to fake the customs form, so many times. Customs doesn't know shit about value. And well, figurines don't cost shit to produce lol, we're just retarded for paying so much for them.

>>7795874
omdat ik cosplay en anime heel leuk vind en het heel leuk vind om met vrienden te dansen. maar ik hoef niet te dansen op anime muziek mkay.

waarom is dat zo lastig om te snappen? cons zijn niet speciaal ofzo alles wat je op een con kan doen kan je erbuiten ook doen.

>>7795884
>cons zijn niet speciaal ofzo alles wat je op een con kan doen kan je erbuiten ook doen.

Wat? Cons zijn wel speciaal. Cons zijn de enige plekken waar ik met wildvreemden naar anime kan kijken, en daarna een intellectueel gesprek kan voeren over de heavy DDR competitie. Daarnaast krijg ik ook geen rare blikken als ik een cosplay aan heb, en kan ik zomaar aan vreemden vragen of ik met ze op de foto mag omdat ze iets leuks aan hebben. Daarnaast vind ik vrienden maken op een con een stuk eenvoudiger dan daarbuiten

Vanwege precies die vrienden, en de vrije atmosfeer, ga ik steeds terug naar cons. Dan hoef ik niet naar slechte hits van Stromae of Tiesto te luisteren

>>7795940
zo hey jij bent dan ook allang niet meer uitgeweest. tiesto wordt allang niet meer gedraaid in clubs en kroegen.
cons vind ik harstikke leuk, maar niet speciaal ofzo. Waarom je op een conventie je tijd zou spenderen door anime te kijken die je thuis kan kijken ok sure, maar wat is er in godsnaam leuk om op weaboo muziek te dansen? :') nee dat mag lekker wegblijven.

>>7795940

of je bent gewoon een awkward penguin irl.
probeer vrienden te maken (als je daar capabel voor bent) buiten cons en ga niet huilie doen hier over hoe speciaal een kankercon is.

gewoon hoerenkots

>>7795940
>Cons zijn de enige plekken waar ik met wildvreemden naar anime kan kijken

Ken ook prima een buiten een con

>daarna een intellectueel gesprek kan voeren over de heavy DDR competitie

intellectueel...
JA die PIJLEN gingen me toch toch hard.

> Daarnaast krijg ik ook geen rare blikken als ik een cosplay aan heb

Die krijg je wel :D

>kan ik zomaar aan vreemden vragen of ik met ze op de foto mag omdat ze iets leuks aan hebben

Kan ook in het echte leven, niet alleen in anime en pedoland

>Daarnaast vind ik vrienden maken op een con een stuk eenvoudiger dan daarbuiten

Ga in therapie, doet wonderen je sociale beperkingen. Jij Weaboo

>Dan hoef ik niet naar slechte hits van Stromae of Tiesto te luisteren

Tja tja

>>7795967
r8ed gr8, str8 8/8 m8 no h8

>>7795960
>>7795956
jullie zijn echt homo's. Ga ergens anders casual doen als je cons niet speciaal genoeg vindt

>>7795970
>> Daarnaast krijg ik ook geen rare blikken als ik een cosplay aan heb

dan weet jij nog niet wie er op een con rondlopen..

als jij lelijk bent krijg jij de aandacht die je verdiend.

>>7795973
Laten we zeggen dat die cons soms een beetje te speciaal zijn :D

>>7795973
Ga je nu schelden met homo jeetje mina doe een beetje minder homofoob. Gadverdamme.

Lol. Sorry dat je in een weaboo fantasie leeft en dat andere mensen cons realistisch zien.

Grossssssssssss homofoob. Ga drolletje leggen. Misschien voel je je dan beter.

ben je boos? pluk een roos
zet 'm op je hoofd, dan heb je een roos op je hoofd

Kwaliteit in NL threads gaat altijd zo dramatisch naar beneden als iedereen Nederlands begint te praten.

>>7795983
Ware aard van Nederlands.

are you angry? pick a rose
put it on your head, then you'll have a rose on your head

>>7795983
kanker

>>7795985
ware aart van nederland

>>7795985

waar is de kanker dan

>>7795991
zoals de helft van de cosplay show en acts zeker.
die akb groep. ga geen dans act doen als je niet kan dansen hoe mooi je kostuums ook zijn het ziet nie uit

And boom goes the dynamite .

Back on topic as who did you guys cosplay.

>>7795998

jij snapt het helemaal.

Hallo.

Houden jullie ook zo van die japanse stripjes?
vet coolie.

als je bedoelt of ik wel eens anime lees, dan ja : )

>>7795998
>zoals de helft van de cosplay show en acts zeker.
die akb groep. ga geen dans act doen als je niet kan dansen hoe mooi je kostuums ook zijn het ziet nie uit

OOGAIDS

>>7796009
Japans? Ik dacht dat het chinees was want het is toch andersom net zoals china aan de andere kant van de wereld staat?

>>7796001
welp.

I was Utsuho. I posted a couple of weeks ago during preparations here >>7762377

Ik vind toch wel dikke discriminatie. Ik zal names de AKB groep de telegraaf, metro en hart van nederland benaderen

>>7796015
awh so cute~! je ziet er echt leuk uit hoor

>>7796015
I saw you

>>77960132
Oke I am certain most of you guys didn't even go to abunai.

>>7796025
lol

>>7796023
what did you think? eye-sore or acceptable?
>>7796019
thank you

>>7795528
>being this dense
I'm sorry, I don't live with mommy and daddy anymore, I actually know the value of money.and that food wasn't even worth half the price they charged.
So what you're saying here is that if I'm not willing to drop around €400 I shouldn't go to a con at all?
Besides, the food was still expensive and equally gross, I've had better food at a cheaper price at festivals and those things are very pricey too.

>>7796017

>>7795940
>Dan hoef ik niet naar slechte hits van Stromae of Tiesto te luisteren
Heb je al geprobeerd de radio af te zetten of ben je daar te autistisch voor?

>>7796997
lel

it only took us so long to derail the thread.
Beautiful

>>7797080
I hope you're also refering to the figurines talk because that was annoying as fuck

I kinda feel pulled in two disrections this convention.
The convention was a little "meh", while I had a good time. It was kinda like Abunai repeats the same trick for years, without much inspiration for something new. On the other hand I keep coming back because of other people.

>>7797386
same here. Abunai is boring on its own, but it's nice because of the people. Kinda expensive joke though.

Which one's better, Nishi or Abunai?

>>7797628
Probably Abunai. I crossplayed before at Nishi though and that was fun.

>>7797628
Nishi doesn't compare to Abunai, really.

>>7796992
then dont go ?

>>7797628
Abunai. Nishi's location last year was really bad and I heard that next edition will be at the same location.

>>7795884
Waarom doe je dat dan niet? Loop naar buiten en ga naar een normale club.

oh vreugd, de VMBO'ers hebben het topic ook gevonden, bereidt je voor op veel ge-kanker en infantiel edgy gelul.

>>7797628
I would rank it:

Animecon (For me it scores better on every level)

(big gap)

Abunai (even though I was bored half of the time, Saturday evening rave makes up a lot)
Nishicon
Imagicon
Tsunacon

all the other crap like MGC, Epifail, Tomocon

>>7797646
Apparently you lack all reading comprehension so I don't see any reason to continue this discussion.

>>7797811
anyone else has an opinion on this? I always found animecon a bit.... sterile. What abunai lacks in program, it makes up for in people. And animecon is fucking expensive and has no decent food provisions.

How are the other cons? Dunno if it's fair to judge epicon yet since they haven't even had their first "con" yet. Just some sort of... game... event... thingie. Though the whole thing with splitting it into two doesn't bode well for their trustworthiness in general, I guess.

>>7798016
Agreed on animecon and abunai, animecon might have a better program, but abunai has a better atmosphere.

The other conventions are barely worth it. Haven't been to epicon. Nishicon hasn't managed to impress me yet in any of their years. Tsunacon also gets a meh from me. Yaycon is the best out of the smaller conventions in my opinion (maybe it's the 16+ rule).

In all cases though, I usually only go to the smaller cons for the people that attend. Hanging out with friends is what makes a con for me, but that doesn't reflect much on the con's quality itself.

My experience with animecon is that is so much more busy compared to the other ones. (as well as more expensive) Having to pay that much to barely even squeeze myself in less than a quarter of the events and having no decent place to even stand is not my thing. Especially not for that price.

The dealerroom isn't necessarily bigger than Abunai/Nishicon too. I'll have more fun with a smaller con really. Chibicon was a lot of fun when it was still there.

I disagree on it being more expensive.

Sure, the ticket is more expensive, but train costs alone offset that. Cheap hotels in the Hague are also easier to get.

Especially this year I think it was pretty clear. Animecon seems to raise their level (guests, bands) and Abunai did more or less the same thing for another year. Personally I find the atmosphere different, but good on different ways.

By the way, why were both the Tsunacon events canceled? Any story behind this?

And I also heard about judges on friday basiacally being very mean during judging.

>>7798305
>and Abunai did more or less the same thing for another year.

How can you say this when they introduced the (massively popular) masked ball, and had a live concert?

Sure they've found their formula and people like it, but even Abunai adds new stuff each year, it's unfair to say they don't.

So can anybody tell me if epicon is good or bad. I hear mixed opinions about it. But for me on paper it really sucks gaming and anime together? Those are 2 complete different groups.

>>7798305
>but train costs alone offset that

Um, excuse me? Not everyone lives in the Randstad, train costs depend 100% on where you're from. That is in no way an argument for or against the convention.

>>7797811
>>7798016
>>7798026

Yaycon an imagicon are basically the small gems of the con scene. They're smaller, intimate and decently organized with no pretentiousness. Sure, the program can't possibly compare but the point is to hang out with friends, really.

>>7798305
The only people complaining about the judges being 'mean' were the girls who ended up winning CFS. Kek.
Even more hilarious when you take into account that they told everyone backstage that they bougt a corset (and sewn fabric on top of it), that daddy put in the eyelets, and that a part of the costume fell off after judging.

But they told the judges they did everything themselves so they won.

>>7798421

No, it was one specific judge member unneccessarily mean, with several CFS/eurocos participants leaving the judging-room in tears.

>>7798426
Bruh I was backstage - they were the ones that ended up going to the judges and saying "be less mean".
They were the only ones. There was only one girl that ended up crying, and that was to be expected as she was very overwhelmed by the questions.

Was sad for her, not disagreeing with you, but it's a huge exaggeration to say "several". But maybe the one judge toned down after being warned, wouldn't know.

>>7798365
this. especially in holland train tickets cost a fortune. luckily alot can travel for free on the friday if they are a student but still.

>>7798437
who started crying.

>>7798421
wow those 2 girls you mean the one in a blue "dress" and the other in a yellow one or something. I knew they didn't make it themself. I swear they had somebody else make it for them.

>>7798342
Actually, the prom isn't exactly new. Animecon has been experimenting with that for a while. They didn't even bother to learn from Animecon's previous mistakes (crappy music, small room).
The only difference might be that it is a masked ball. Something the local (rural) cosplay groups has been doing for years.

The live concert has been there for a while as well. Except instead of flying a band from Japan (who might be known for some OST), they turn to krauts singing Japanese songs. Oh, and you have to buy seperate tickets for the concert. Something that isn't even allowed, iirc.

>>7798593

Abunai's first prom was kind of like Animecon's first prom: wrong music, sucky DJ and silly door management. (They were keeping people out at door #1 claiming it's too crowded and letting people in at door #2)
However, Animecon had better speakers with bass cabs and all, so compared to Abunai's set of PC speakers on stands without any bass cabs I could see and from the sound of it, the DJ running things well in the red, I'd say Animecon's first ball wins.

>>7798593
By the way: it's allowed to let people pay extra for a concert: nothing illegal about that. Point is that you also need to pay a percentage of your income as convention to copyright extortionists.. Errrr copyright holders for the music the band plays.
Since you also need a ticket for Abunai itself to get access, the copyright holders can claim their percentage off of the entrance fees for the con itself, which is significantly higher than the 500-or-so Euro Abunai gets on concert tickets.

What are other cons like Anime con and Abunai in the Netherlands or Belgium? I mean cons where you have an evening and/or night program and where most people stay at location.
Unlike conventions like Facts or Japan Expo where you just go during the day.
Is there even a con like that in Belgium?

>>7798455
Girl in the silver dress from KLK. Judges asked her why she used satin, that's all. She felt overwhelmed.
Tbh she was really nice and the dress fit her well but it /was/ satin.

Getting kind of tired of the rumours that the judges were super mean when only one girl, who probably wasn't as experienced, ended up crying. It was nevertheless sad though.
And really? Eurocos contestants leaving the room in tears? Please.

>>7798461
Yep. Those ones. And everyone backstage knew.
Then when at judging they said "we made everything ourselves, we did the corset so and so!".
I later also heard that they'd said their mum had done the ruffles on the skirt for them. Considering they'd mentioned they only entered for fun, I had expected they'd be honest about what they had and hadn't done.

Nope.jpeg

Basically they did the rhinestones themselves and the most basic parts of the skirt. The rest was either bought or done for them.

tldr; still mad.

>>7799087
A lot of people have their moms help on cosplays. I remember being a beginner cosplayer, working really hard on one of my first costumes while learning how to sew. I talked to one of the winners of the contest and really looked up to her until she told me her mom did most of her costume...

>>7799091
So buying a corset, letting your mum do the skirt and your dad do the eyelets totally equals a self-made costume right?

The rules state that you need to mention it if someone else helped you. And buying, like their corset, isn't allowed at all.

What did they do themselves besides decoration then? Not saying you can't have help but this is a contest. Not a regular con-event.

>>7799091
Oh shit sorry anon, in my anger I misread what you just typed, whoop it's morning.
Point >>7799123 still stands but yeah idk.
Too bad you had such a bad experience with the winner of the contest though.

>>7798305
They were caught smoking weed on the top the building. Twice. They were not removed from the grounds, but (as you noted) their events were indeed cancelled.

Aside from this: Much love for yaycon in this thread when it comes to smaller events, I like that. Keep it coming along with anything we can improve upon. :)

>>7799126
Haha, that's okay, I agree with you on >>7799123 though, it's really unfair towards other contestants.

>>7799126
>Too bad you had such a bad experience with the winner of the contest though.
It's fine, she shattered my image very fast anyways by gossipping about everyone else while we'd only just met

>>7799216
The tsunacon organisers were caught? Lol, we just smoked on the grass field next to the entrance and had no trouble at all.

That Yaycon stand in the dealer room was kind of off-putting to me. Those handcuffs and stuff belong in the bedroom, not in a dealer room to be edgy-desu (where there were also children walking around)

>>7799126
>>7799259

Wait, we're talking specifically about the CFS and not eurocos winner, right?

>>7799266
no no no, I was talking about someone completely different, as said here >>7799091
Also, that was years ago and has nothing to do with the current winners, it was just a similar example

Weird, i talked with several contestants and they all said that the judges were criticizing harshly. Not with questions like " why did you choose satin" but more like: "This is bad, this thread is red but you must have used blue" and "This is the wrong fabric, not good for you at all." (loosely quoting here what they told me).

Now, do not say that you should be happy and all pretending to be "wooooo" during judging when it sucks, but the last thing you want to do is break the contestant's confidence before they go on stage. My girlfriend was judged by Yaya 2 months ago, and she walked away very happy, even though the feedback pointed to some major flaws afterward once she got them back by mail.

>>7799259
It's not so much the smoking part that mattered here, but rather the sitting on top of the building part. It's clearly off limits and they decided to ignore the first warning, so this happened.

Thanks for the feedback on the yaycon stand, I'll keep that in mind. :)

>>7799216
....So because they smoked weed, the already pretty slim program loses 2 more events. I do not disagree with taking action, but now you punish the visitors.

>>7799085
There's no such thing at Belgian cons. Some have toyed around with the idea, but apparently it's difficult to find a good location to host such an event.

>>7798461
These right? I have one of them on facebook, and I vaguely remember that she's been busy for months on that thing... There're even WIP-pictures on facebook..

Oh, I just took a peek on her facebook. And all of the WIP-pictures featured the ruffles and the stones various frilly details.. Nothing about the construction of the corset.

>>7799259
Yeah no. They weren't smoking on the grass field. They were smoking on the flat roof next to their room..

>>7799278
Well that's their own fault then. Our rule is that when you're smoking weed in public, don't draw too much attention to yourself.

>Thanks for the feedback on the yaycon stand, I'll keep that in mind. :)
I'm so sorry, I should've said my feedback in a more friendly way. Seeing you respond so nicely makes me feel a bit guilty.
I can understand why you'd put them there and there's probably a lot of people who like it but it made me feel very uncomfortable and gives the wrong impression of the con I think....then again, I'm a bit of a prude so~

>>7799294
>>7799278

Well, you can actually buy a lot of naughty things at yaycon. Including yaoi manga and crocheted penises!

I wonder what kind of impression the kids got that had to go through the same entrance where all of that was being sold to reach the public library in the same building..

>>7799286
So the Made in Asia, Atsusacon, FACTS (Not really a con, but rather an expo) and Japan Expo Belgium events don't exist? Perhaps you should do some more research. :þ

>>7799294
I can be honest to say that you're probably the politest anon I've ever met in this shithole. Respect for that.
As for your earlier comment: I couldn't find anything wrong with it, so please don't apologise.
It's true that kids and their parents could see the toys on display, but since we have an age limit of 16+ at the con itself, that's all they were going to see. As far as I know, we haven't been asked to remove them and we haven't received any complaints from staff or visitors alike. Otherwise we would've taken action, of course. :)

As I said, I'll see what I can do with your info. We're a convention with a rather specific target audience, as you already know, but that doesn't mean we should scare off any kind of potential visitors by making them uncomfortable.

>>7799298
Aaaaand that's exactly why it was decided to place the event on a Sunday for this year. Since we've had that problem last year. It was...an interesting experience, but not something we're eager for to repeat. For obvious reasons. :)

>>7799302
I've actually noticed that these Dutch threads suddenly become very polite more often. Are all Dutch like this?

>>7799305
Not at all. Just scroll up a bit, the bits which are written in Dutch? Typed by pretty much the most juvenile and rude people you can find. I hate to boast, but let's just say that I'm glad I'm not one of them. >_>

>>7799087
Wow I actually know both of them in real life. And the fat one is a selfish bitch. and the other is a spoiled girl. And when I saw them on the con I knew they didn't made it themself.

>>7799293
Their outfits aren't even that great...

>>7799298
oh boy, I don't think yaycon is something for me then haha.

>>7799302
Wow thanks! But I'm only nice when people are nice to me so respect for you!
And thanks for thinking about us prude people too (allthough we probably don't really belong at a yaoi/yuri convention) :)

>So the Made in Asia, Atsusacon, FACTS (Not really a con, but rather an expo) and Japan Expo Belgium events don't exist? Perhaps you should do some more research. :þ
I think they meant cons that go on untill night, not just till 18.00

>>7799305
Well, I'm Belgian but you dutchies are allright!

>>7795528
Actually, Abunai used to profile itself as the budget-friendly convention. Before they moved to Veldhoven, they even organised a cheap camping option to sleep.

>>7799274
So who were the judges then and which one was being mean ?

>>7799305
The Dutch threads are only polite as long as we aren't talking dutch.

>>7799314
True that, I remember people would specifically go to Abunai instead of Animecon since both the tickets and sleeping options were much cheaper. Now they're roughly in the same price bracket.

Not that I personally mind, the location is at least nice and spacey. And the hotel is a good place to stay (when the rooms don't get sold out in insane time).

All that said, anybody have more good pictures of the cosplay contest(ents)? I missed them myself.

>>7799284
>organizers of a con
>smoking weed
>on the roof
>shouldn't be punished

Oh, you Dutchies~

Smoking weed is one thing, smoking it on a roof is another.

Smoking roof is one thing, smoking it on a weed is another.

Roofing smoke is thing one. It on weed another smoke.

Weeding roof is thing one, it on smoking is another smoke.

>>7799326
I think we've all agreed that they shouldn't be punished for smoking weed but for doing it on the roof

>>7799330
>>7799344
>>7799355
>>7799361
top kek

>>7798440
you'd be surprised dutch train tickets are some of the cheapest in the world lol

>>7799384
>dutch train tickets
>cheap

>>7799427
Germany, Sweden and Switzerland all have higher train fares compared to NL. The Netherlands is amongst the cheapest on a per-kilometre basis.

how many people here received a friend request from the same guy?

>>7799460
You have to be waaaaaaaay more specific.

btw what was up with that honourable mention of that nidalee wtf...

>>7799463
some dude with sweaty armpits. dont really wanna mention a name but it rhymes with piss/miss/triss.

>>7799460
Long hair, right? Yeah, I did..
But I didn't accept it, because I suddenly remembered stories from last year, how much he is a sleazebag that uses "Can I get a picture with you?" as a pretext to do some minor groping (or groping a minor).

If I look on his facebook, there's virtually no picture of him without having his arm around a cosplayer.

>>7799478
he posts videos on youtube too. it's kinda weird actually.

>>7799483
I just googled.. The guy had his own topics on VKMag and Fok in 2008...
Such a sad case.

>>7799488
yeah it's kinda... well...

odd.
I hope he just behaves himself and doesn't get banned. He seems nice, but just incredibly socially dumb.
There was a guy in a wheelchair at abunai who I found scary too. Not because he wore a pink oversized shirt with socks, but it was like he was on alcohol/drugs during the day.

>>7799302
>So the Made in Asia, Atsusacon, FACTS (Not really a con, but rather an expo) and Japan Expo Belgium events don't exist? Perhaps you should do some more research. :þ

Perhaps you should read comments properly before you respond. We were talking about cons that continue overnight, so basically cons like Abunai that are held at hotels.

> There's no such thing AT(not as) Belgian cons.

>>7799494
Oh the wheelchair guy. He's nice.. And yeah, he usually is on drugs / alcohol, most of the time. Something to do with his disability or something his doctors prescribed. He has prescription marihuana, and in that giant shopping bag on his wheelchair (he never sees the bag room this way), he carries the necessary medicinal alcohol (aged in wood).
No really, he's a nice guy, but pretty talkative.

>>7799460
>>7799463
>>7799467
>>7799478

I you go through the Official Abunai!Con event page you'll see he actually made a MASSIVE crypost how facebook blocked him from adding more people and how it's the most unfair thing in the world. Literally asking other people to add him as friend and how he's doing it for a "good cause". Read it, this guy is completely nuts. His youtube videos prove that.

>>7799510
Oh my god, this guy is comedy gold! I just googled him and he really is a train wreck.

>>7799467
Chris Klinkers? Ignore him. He goes to cons in Belgium and the Netherlands, and when the event is over, he spamms the events' facebook page and event page with ungrammatical walls of text, begging people to become his friend because he's such a 'nice guy'.
He probably has some mental issues.

I've only met him once irl. He demanded a picture with me when I was clearly too busy at that time and was being really rude towards one of my friends.

>>7799506
awhh that's so sad though. :( It must suck to be on medicine all the time like that.
I guess that if he ever wants to talk to me I'll just be nice then. I mean I'd always be nice, but it freaked me out that he was under influence during the day.

>>7799531
Yeah, he's pretty inoffensive. The type of person that you should either ignore or curtly explain that you're not interested if you find him bothering, but I don't think he really bothers anyone per say? He's just really lacking in social understanding.

As for Abunai I had an OK time. The cosplay workshops were really good, and the presenters I saw were really helpful to beginners which is great. I actually didn't do anything else other than hang out in the gameroom (don't even bother to cosplay for Abu anymore), but I'm not sure if that says more about their program or the fact that I've grown out of cons.

It feels unfair to compare Abunai and Animecon because I think they aim to provide a different kind of experience. I massively prefer Animecon though, last year it felt so professional and there were actual cool guests. All other Dutch cons are more somewhere you go to chill and hang out and have fun in cosplay.

>>7799506
>>7799535
oh yeah, that guy! He's a really nice guy. I usually talk a lot to him too but didn't get the chance this year.

>>7799531
>>7799527
>>7799510
>>7799478
>>7799467
>>7799460
This guy fucking lives in the same city as me Never saw him in real life though. He send me a request I accepted but unfriended him because of his weird posts.

>>7799510
which of the 1040 messages he posted do you mean. this guy....

>>7799686
As far as I know, he only made one post on the official event page. It was posted yesterday.
You should be able to find it without any more spoonfeeding.

>>7799721
No seriously there are like at least 5

>>7799791
You misunderstood: he didn't post the rant on Abunaicons' facebook page, he posted it on the official event page (go to 'evenementen' and you'll find it).

>>7799274
Oh damn. I was judged but that was after they were criticised. They were pretty nice to me but I was like further down the line.

>>7799535
Yeah, but I have to warn ya.. he can rant for hours xD ...but in exchange for listening to his rants, he might offer you a slug from whatever bottle he hides behind his wheelchair. And perhaps a drag from whatever he's smoking. He's like a rolling sake tasting. =D (except less pretentious)

>>7799791
<-- this one

>>7800487
Good lord.. He believes that using interpunction is a felony..

>>7800497
ehm. sadly there's a lot of dutch people who havent heard of interpunction...

I'm proud of you, dutchies, we have reached bump limit. Worth it to make a new thread? Maybe about dutch stuff in general?

>>7800589
Naww. I still wanted to ask if somebody has pictures of that bodypaint cosplay.

W..white knight me pls

>>7800646
aah she actuall response to 4chan xD wow how stupid are you.

>>7800646
whats her cosplay page ?

>>7798305
Tsunacon events were cancelled 'cause they climbed on the roof and smoked weed.

Top lel.

At CFS judges didn't even ask questions after their opening question "what are you most proud of" , then they just pointed out every little flaw in a not so subtle, just say rude, way, while the cosplayer was still there. Constructive criticism, I think 2 of the judges never even heard of that term. One of the contestants had been a judge for the CFS in the past and said they can not do that, because as said above, you put contestants down before they go on stage. They also did not look at props, even though props were a major part of some cosplays.

When the show had already been delayed for almost an hour (partly because the judges had arrived late) they said "Just get on with the fashionshow without us sitting in front to 'judge', the CFS is only about the costume anyways." Like, what? Let's judge the fashionshow without seeing the fashionshow right? Like all the cosplayers did not put effort in that too.

I say to the judges, just write down your negative comments instead of blurting them out and stomping the cosplay contestants in the ground before the show, they all put effort in it. The cosplay judges also were not in cosplay, bit disappointing.

I still love that the HIM cosplayer got a honorable mention for his costume and amazing stage preformance, they should keep a price like stage preformance in there. What do you guys think?

>>7800753
I think HIM was the best cosplay on the fashion show. The others where fucking boring... I think the cosplays in the fashion show needs to be creative.

Why would u need to win anyway?
The winners posted stuff on fb how they made the cosplay, its legit. I honestly agree Him shouldve won as well. But judges make the call. Nothing to do with knowing the cosplayers, rather the anime.

Does anyone know when/if video footage of the ending ceremony is uploaded? I'm unsure if I was awkward or silly on stage help

Who the heck were the CFS judges?

>>7800646
All I read was
>*whine whine whine* we worked so hard, we did everything by hand *whiiiine*
Excuse me but last time I checked no one was forcing you to make a cosplay like you're in a some sort of sweatshop or something.
And I'm pretty sure you're not the only one who worked hard on their cosplay except they don't cry as much about it

Why do they plan the judging before the show itself anyway? The first test for a cosplay to see if it is actually sturdy is whether it survives the catwalk (trust me a lot of them don't)

>>7800957
probably not online, too much copyright trolling

maybe you can purchase a dvd with the stuff on it

>>7801870
Its so you can see the costume up close and see the techniques they've used. Lol.

>>7800646
Yo no one in here is saying you didn't sew the costume. They're saying you didn't sew the corset. You bought the corset and sewed fabric on top of it, if you think that equals "making the corset" you're fucking dumb and your post proves that.

You bought the corset, probably because you can't sew a corset or didn't feel like making one. I'm just guessing here. Both are equally bad. And you should feel bad for telling the judges that you "made" it when you clearly didn't.

If things get too hard when cosplay-making, your solution is not to buy the thing and disguise it with fabric and pass it off as "making". A corset is made by sewing parts together and adding boning, not buying one and altering it.

I had a great time at Abunai. True I had some moments I was bored a little bit, thank god for 3DS streetpass, but overall I did some nice workshops and saw a couple of nice shows :) To bad the fashion show had such a terrible long delay. I indeed noticed that the level of cosplay was a bitt better then previous years. The deshima disco was awesome, at the end my friends and I kept party going in the hotel room and oh man I was so waisted the next morning. I really loved the time I spended at Abunai!

Anyway I am looking for 2 cosplayers or whatever it's called, the first ones were from Bob's Burgers dressed as Tina and Louise, the second one was a guy. He was on friday and saturday and was wearing a Portal costume the same one Chell wears at the second game only he had orange/blue paint marks and a belt with lemon grenades, that was awesome! I also talked with him for a while and was such a nice guy, forgot his name sadly but it was not a common name. Does anyone know who this guy was?

>>7800646
weeehh I'm a little baby because I won first price but now people are talking about me on the internet weeehh. Grow up you fucking twat.

>>7801908
this is stupid

they didn't make the fabric either, they didn't spin the cotton, they didn't grow the plants, they didn't cause the nuclear fusion in the sun

this sort of reasoning is bullshit. I don't want to see bought costumes in the show, but a corset is fine

>>7801938
Do you even know how hard a corset is to sew you little shit?

Do you know about making sure the pattern fits your body, to make sure that you attach everything perfectly, to sew the boning in?

Gee I wonder why we don't already buy skirts and just DYE them in a different colour. Especially when it comes to a fucking contest that clearly states you can only buy wigs and shoes.

Fuck off.

It's a top part of the cosplay, you should've made it when it comes to a contest. Don't bullshit me. There were at least 3 or 4 other contestants with self-made corsets, if they did it so should you.

>>7801938
Enough cosplayers make their own corsets, if you want to compete at this level, you ought to as well or at least be honest and up front about not doing so.

If you don't know how to make one yet, it's time to start learning, especially if you want to compete.

>>7801938
Actually. It's just fine to do that, but for a competition you really have to make your own.
I don't care whether these girls did or didnt, because abunai compos are fucked up anyways.

>>7801951
That's kind of the point I was trying to make. Hell it's fine if you buy your entire costume, there is nothing wrong with that.

But as soon as it comes to a contest, then I'm sorry but no. Especially because they told everyone backstage, and then suddenly changed their story at the judges. I'm sorry but that's just deceitful.

But true enough, abunai compos are fucked up.

>>7801951
the fact they one with those outfits is fucked up there where better much better outfits.

>>7800646
Ahh, deliciously butthurt and still lying. Amazing.

>>7801958
won*

>>7801952
kinda makes me want to stop entering. :')

>>7801958
Like what? I thought those outfits were amazing! HIM was amazing too though! Damn was he wearing stillts or heels or what?!

>>7800646

Cry moar delish tears of lies plox

>>7801963
I also know for a fact that some pearls were glued on instead of sewn on. Judges didn't have much time to look at the costumes I think because you should've been able to tell....

>>7801967
Yeah my point HIM was the only AMAZING cosplayer. The rest was oke. So the results don't make sense.

>>7801912

Lemon grenades... this guy?

>>7801943
>Gee I wonder why we don't already buy skirts and just DYE them in a different colour. Especially when it comes to a fucking contest that clearly states you can only buy wigs and shoes.
Can't you see the irony in this? Not at all? What the fuck? Shoes and wigs are fine, but corsets are not? What sort of reasoning is this?

And do you know how difficult it is to make a good fabric?

>>7801946
See >>7801943 , why are you allowed to buy shoes and wigs? Instead of making them yourself

Yeah they're probably reading this so-

Stop lying, holy shit. You weren't honest at the cfs and now you're going to lie the way to your whiteknight army. Grow the fuck up.

Also, that shit took you 6 months? Last time I got to partake in the cfs I finished a huge costume within a month, and you can't even come up with something decent in half a year. You bought half of it and made others work on it as well, and don't even get me started on the terrible fabric choises. Jesus shit.

LOL. I still see a completely finished front on which you put fabric over. I still don't see that you made it together piece by piece and put in boning etc.

But that's logical innit? You told everyone yourself that you couldn't be arsed to make a corset so you bought one and altered it.

lmao.

>>7801991
Holy fuck you make me laugh so much goddamn. A top is kind of different from shoes and wigs right? It's a top. It's half of the costume. If you're buying that and altering it, it's not really sewing it yourself.

Unless you're in theatre and you want to make your entire wig from scratch and make the platform for the shoes and build your way around it - sure thing go for it.

There is no real way to learn how to make a wig from scratch, and no real way to make a shoe from scratch. This is known. You /can/ however learn how to make a corset from scratch.

This is also why you need to make your own props. Even if you're not good at it. Same way with corsets.

You're not even trying but 4/10 for making me respond.

>>7801982
lol have you seen the results of the amv compo? that made no sense either.

oh man, their facebooks are hilarious! Please keep fueling the fire, ladies, this is so entertaining!

>>7801997
selfmade or not, the costumes are still ugly

>>7801991
Not sure if troll, or if someone really thinks this is a valid form of reasoning.

You can learn how to make a corset, I've seen 15 year olds manage to pull of something decent with some googling and tutorials.

It's a different matter to net out a whole wig and sew every weft into the right place. Let alone cobble together your entire shoe. (Though I am in favour of people needing to make their own shoe cover if the cosplay doesn't require ordinary/generic shoes. Again, something that can be googled and learned.)

5/10 you made me reply too

>>7801998
Besides that point, a lot of people actually alter the fuck out of wigs and they make their own bootcovers and such. However, shoe making is totally different from sewing clothes.

>>7801991
You do realize it's mostly a sewing contest right?
Of course you need to sew a corset by yourself. Otherwise you may as well buy everything and alter it in some way.

Even if you don't agree with the wigs and shoes, of which I am pretty sure you can't make them yourself or even learn how to, it's in the rules for the contest. Shoes and wigs allowed. The rest needs to be made.

Even if you don't agree, it's still in the rules bro.

>>7802007
thats just rude. are you trying to piss them off on purpose? For what reason?

>>7802011
Exactly. I have altered my shoes and altered my wigs many times because that lies within my capabilities.
However I make a corset myself. Because that is also possible, if somewhat difficult at first.

>>7801986
Yes that's him! Who is that guy? I was way to embaressed to ask his name later that weekend. Apperently he goes so animecons for some years.

>>7801998
>There is no real way to learn how to make a wig from scratch, and no real way to make a shoe from scratch.
Well actually there is but it's an artisan craft so that's why it's not expected from cosplayers
Not disagreeing with you but get your facts straight

>>7802015
What? Am I not allowed to have an opinion? their fabric-choise is really poor.
Let me rephrase that into tumblr-speak for you..
I'm so sorry but personally I don't think the costumes look very nice.
happy?

>>7802017
thats kenji.

>>7802028
I was referring to the "keep the fuel going ladies"
lol fuck tumblr wtf

>>7802041
How is that even offensive? I was refering to them feeding the trolls while everyone tells them not to.
I think we misunderstood eachother

>>7802049
I think we misunderstood each other indeed.
My apologies!

>>7802018
You're right, I apologize.

Again with the apologizing?! Go back to the drama!!!

>>7802007
>>7802015
>>7802028
>>7802041
>>7802049
>>7802055
>>7802063
Look we can be friends. And admit when we are wrong we´re pretty normal.

But don't buy your corset and act like you made it because then we will destroy you.

>>7802055
apology accepted!
I also apologize!

The comments on their posts are so standard.
"Everyone is so jelly, they probably can't even sew a tie!"

Not taking into account that everyone is angry that they won because of a bought item and lying to the jury.

Oh and art critics aren't necessarily artists. How does the world work for you? That every book critic is a writer themselves? People can still see that there's something wrong with your costume, even if (and that's not the case here) they can't sew.

>>7802077
You do know that actual reviews or critics that hold any value are written by someone who has knowledge about the subject right? Even a simple book review in the newspaper is most of the time written by someone who is an author themselves.

>>7802095
Yes of course. You do need knowledge of the topic at hand, but you don't need to be as good as.

What I am trying to say is that even those who can't sew properly, can still tell if there's something wrong with the fabric choices or the way it's constructed. And in this case - that sewing on top of a corset is not the same as sewing a corset.

But you're right, they do obviously need some knowledge of the topic at hand.

''omg people on 4chan are just jealous!!11''
People are still pulling the jealousy card. My fucking sides.

I don't agree with calling them " a self bitch and a spoiled brat" because that is really personal attack, but I agree with the self-made corsets lie. That is going against the rules entirely. This isn't about jealous ahah. In the end it's not their fault that they won, the judges are responsible of picking a winner. Yet it was the contestant's responsibility to tell the truth so they could be judged in fair way along with the other contestants. it's silly that costumes that are made and sewn from scratch will be outdone by a costume that has a bought corset.

>>7802105
*jealousy
ouuupseee
I'm just really baffled by the way they're reacting that I can't even type properly.I'm too busy laughing.

>>7802103
Yeah exactly its always the same. People are talking about you because you did something wrong. I know that's not always the case on 4chan but there is a clear reason why people are angry and why they are ranting about it on 4chan. They say they don't care but they still post about it on facebook so they clearly do care and maybe they are angry because people know they didn´t made the corset themself

>>7802105
>>7802111
I definitely agree with that. I was just mad that something won that wasn't entirely self-made, with the knowledge of all the contestants present.

>>7802103
And you know what comedic gold is? Bitch doesn't even realise that half of those people commenting on her statuses like "aww your shit was amazing, they is just jelly" "dont feel down, these cgl-bitches just be hatin" ...THEY DON'T EVEN MEAN IT..

Cause they're right fucking here, dissin' her n shit. Y'all is thinking "yeah, I really like her and I feel sorry for her being bullied on 4chan... BUT THAT CORSET AINT RIGHT SISTER"

Heavens, my tits hurt from laughing..

>>7802063
you're forgiven :)

I wonder what people think about the acts, and I am not talking about the dancing acts. I am talking about the 'Pandora' act and the Link act with his chickens. I heard the first act didnt went as planned because of a sprained ankle?

>>7802169
If only I could SEE the acts...

>>7801970
Holy fucking shit, who drew this picture of me?

>>7802169
Pandora act ?

Pandora, borderlands.

>>7802304
oh boring . I was thinking pandora hearts.

What did you guys think was a good cosplay act?

I'm thinking of cosplaying this guy next time...opinions?

>>7802715
kanker mongool met poep op zijn gezicht

>>7801986
>>7791313
That Him guy is zo awesome =D We took a picture and talked a lot ! He did not even know me but he really was social and kind. To me that was one of the coolest things ever from an big cosplayer. very motivated and sharing and kind !! Anyone know his Facebook or tumblr. I need to follow Him (no pun in tended =D )

>>7803225
Big cosplayer?

>>7803870
the one on this photo >>7801986 and this one >>7792907

Even without costume you could not miss this guy

>>7804006
But why do you call him a "big cosplayer", is he famous?

>>7804046
because he's literally big.
he's super tall. Guessing around 2.20

>>7804079
you were acting like it was weird a tall cosplayer was nice to you so thats where the confusion is coming from.

>>7804103
ehm im a different perseon. I havent spoken to him I just saw him walk around lol

>>7801898
You missed my point. I meant to switch the order, so the close up judging AFTER the catwalk

>>7804222
then you can't announce the winners so soon, which is what abunai tries to do. I realise your point it's just in context with abunai. Besides, outfits need to be good to survive prejudging