/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Oh god this con is coming up so fast. I have so much shit to do.

My lineup. Hopefully. If I can finish anything. I've been crazy unproductive and lazy since Phoenix Comicon.

lost most of the photos! oh well, the plugsuit ones were really cool. here's the cafe?

hall

some panel? lol

>>7710031

I-Is that the POMF girl?

then here's a picture of a miku I took?

>>7710080
Indeed it is.

Here's what I have cooking up for Saboten this year. Saboten is test run con before I head over to yaoicon this year.

Volleyball manlet
Bicycle Bitch
Flashback Disco MILF.

Not sure what days I'll be wearing them, I guess whenever the group meet ups are going to be. Toudou and Nishinoya are almost done I just need to finish painting shoes and buy knee/elbow pads. Ragyo's labcoat and Nui egg is being commissioned by a friend, I'm still working on the wig. Hope to see you all again at the /cgl/ meet up!

May go. Tired of all the same boring all 'ask x character', cafes, and 'what is such and such series' panels. Will likely just ghost it.

>>7710130
Same. Ghosting doesn't even seem worth the effort, I'm most likely going to save the gas and spend my money at Comikaze or something instead.
It's too damn hot to be having a convention in Arizona this time of year.

>>7710087

Post the shit out of your cosplay, prease.

>>7710126
Quick question - did you make or taobao your yowapeda jersey? I'm looking to get one myself.

>>7710175
Taobao. It's good quality and it has pockets!

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.49.4L841M&id=36625942381&ns=1#detail

>>7710215
Oh great! I was looking at those exact ones. Thanks!

>>7710135
And if it isn't hot it's an awful dust storm and my power goes out ;-;
Fuck this time of year

bump, really bad picture, but this plugsuit was dope

Jesus I had a dream I forgot to bring my petti and my coord looked like a sad piece of shit. Coming from out of town, I'm always afraid of forgetting to pack stuff.

I don't know if I want to cosplay this year or just do lolita/jfashion every day. Better decide quick I guess

Anyone planning on competing in the WCS prelims?

>>7714679
Everyone I know for the most part is planning on entering next year. I really wish people were entering this year. We have some really good competitors in AZ but None of them do pair stuff or they don't want to enter till next year. Two of my friends decided to enter for the fun of it.

Hey, I'm flying into LA mid-August and want to attend this con for Iruma Rioka. I don't know anything about transport and accommodation though, does anyone have any idea about buses or hostels?

Christ this con is already back? I guess it's up to our official /cgl/ ambassador Pixel to start planning the meet up.

>>7719429
LA to glendale arizona is about a six hour drive, were you thinking it's in Glendale California?

I'm pretty sure the greyhound has a bus line that travels from LA to Phoenix. (bad reviews though) there are probably other bus lines.

>>7719517

I just don't know anything, I'm from England and travelling at the moment. Up until now I've used google maps, but nothing popped up for public transport and I'm not sure how it works because the USA is so big.

>>7719517
>>7719537

But yeah, Los Angeles to Grensdale, Arizona.

>>7719537
cool! Well I'm sure if anyone knows they'll be able to tell you. As far as hostels there aren't any around Glendale, there are two hotels within walking distance and one of them is where the con is going to be (Renaissance hotel Glendale)

if you do end up traveling to Arizona, you should know the weather is really hot. around 110 deg. F or 46 Celsius (not too familiar with Celsius)

>>7719537
You could fly from England to Phoenix and then post on the community boards seeing if anyone has hotel room and ride you could get?

>>7719586

Thank you, it seems the closest hostels are in Phoenix. A hotel isn't out of my budget, but I prefer saving the money. As for the weather, it'll be lovely; just as I was getting used to the heat I moved on.

>>7720025

My flight is booked in for 16th of August to LA (the place I'm flying from only does direct flights to LA), I'd have to get another one if I wanted to fly to Phoenix.

Cheers for the tip about the community board, although it reminds me of craigslist. I've heard bad things about craigslist.

>>7720740
It is kinda like craigslist but we have a pretty good con community or else I wouldn't refer you. Just use minor caution but everyone is pretty friendly.

>>7720740
Don't mention where you're coming from though.

>>7720837

All right, thanks.

>>7720861

What do you mean? Is there some kind of animosity between those places?

>>7720740
>>7721539
I'd agree with >>7720837; use your judgement, and decide if you'd think they're trustworthy or not. I'd definitely trust the community over craigslist though, it's much less seedy. I've gotten some randoms from the community site before for rooming, and I've only had positive experiences. Usually someone's facebook can tell a lot about them as well, which can help in deciding if you'd trust them enough to room with them for a few days.
Also, I'm not completely sure what >>7720861 is referring to, but if I'd have to guess, it's to avoid the clingy England obsessed fujos and fangirls who only know what they've seen on TV and read in fanfiction.

>>7721539
Saying the word "England" will likely land you a room with six or seven teen girls dressed as Loki and Dr Who
Itd make a good con-rooming horror story though.

>>7721837

That sounds..
.horrible.

>shitty con
>no real guests besides Iruma
>not worth hotel or gas money
>same panels with same people just looking to get a free badge every single year

barely any AZ cons worth going to, I'd rather save my money and go to TX or CA

>>7722209
what's so shitty about it? I mean to me, compared to phoenix comic con, its interests me moar because I like anime. I respect your opinion nony, just curious.

what cons do you like in texas or california?

>>7722381
Not him but all Arizona cons besides PCC are the same boring shit, just each year a teeny bit is shaved off of the budget and teeny bit is added to the prices. All the panels are the same, the guests are nothing (though last year's Sabo was good), and the events are mediocre. Once you start going to more conventions you'll understand.

The one thing that carries Sabo year after year is its location.

>>7722400
I feel you. the price for sabo is high for what it is, I paid about the same for my AX badge.

also I've never been to taiyou but wanna check it out. so besides bringing in 50k+ heads what's up with PCC? I'd never pay that much for a comicon type of thing. (again not posting in a mean or sarcastic manner)
shit seems really family oriented and comic-y

>>7722425
I actually WOULD recommend Taiyou if you're 21 or over. It's a small con and doesn't have much, but it really shines at night.
PCC actually has real guests that cost money and has a shitton of vendors, panels, and events. It is family oriented and focused on comics/scifi rather than anime/shit which is different since most of our cons are anime focused or comic book focused.

>>7722425
>I feel you. the price for sabo is high for what it is, I paid about the same for my AX badge.
AX costs $20+ more than Sabo, factoring in the time of the purchase? But alright, whatever. You might have paid early for AX and late for Sabo.

>also I've never been to taiyou but wanna check it out.
Taiyou's pretty good, you should check it out. New location this year.

>so besides bringing in 50k+ heads what's up with PCC?
75k+ now.
But yeah, I really don't like it either. It's big and mainstream as fuck. I'd say it's probably the huge names, and the accessibility of it? As in, a lot of normal, hardly geeky people, with some interest in pop media and culture know about it and find it completely alright to attend. Just being huge on it's own is enough of a draw.
I personally can't stand PCC, but that goes for most huge cons. I've never gone to a con for a guest or panels or whatever, so PCC just overwhelms for a few moments then proceeds to bore the hell out of me for the rest of the weekend.

>>7722400
because all the cons are owned by the same person pretty much. That's why each year, everything is the same. After going once or twice, it's not really worth it. Plus Greg charges far too much for such a small con, but hey, I guess people are willing to pay.

>>7722462
Taiyou has a new location? Well that's shitty. I guess another con down the drain

>>7722506
Well, the old hotel, and it being too small for the con as is, always seemed to be the largest complaint.
It's at the Mesa Convention Center now, where PCC used to be. They seem pretty confident about pulling it off. I'll miss the Hilton though.

bump

>>7722467
14 yr old weebs dont know any better, especially if they haven't been out of state

>>7722462
>>7722449
idk who you're kidding taiyou and sabo are the same con different months

>>7725700
Would enter if I had a damn partner.

>>7725700
>Greg "Sheb" Fennel

>>7725700
lol.

>>7725752
I'll be your partner anon.
>I am totally kidding there's no cosplayer bad enough that I wouldn't just weigh down more.

>>7725939
>Greg "100 a head" Fennel

On one hand, I don't feel Sabo is worth talking about, on the OTHER hand, apparently the WCS thing has only gotten two entries?

>>7726970
People need to enter. I have heard of a few entering and being declined because of there characters and not in the same arc. But they really need entries!

>>7728128
I think the problem is, people aren't going to enter. Sabo isn't a big enough con for people out of state to really care, even with the WCS stuff possibly being a reason to come out for it. And even if we just look at possible entrants in-state, no one really does costumes in groups of two. Like, even if there are some people that could potentially stand a chance if the were sent to the bigger contests, this state just doesn't have people that do pairs.

I mean, I've been seeing people talking about it on facebook and doing all sorts of calls for partners, but I don't think anything has really come of it.

It's really looking like the WCS stuff at Sabo is just gonna flop. Which, I honestly kinda want to see happen. Maybe it would serve as a wake up call for Greg and make him realize that the way he's running things isn't making people want to go to his cons.
Though, knowing him, he'll probably just blame the AZ community for not supporting their cons.

>>7726970
>>7728128
>>7728174

That explains the "Do you know that there needs to be three teams entered for a qualifier to occur?" posts.

>>7728331
Three teams of two? We should raffle off our three big cosplayers to random people who need another person. Let's see... We have jnig, peacockfeather, and uh I think electriclady is still here.

>>7728867
I think peacockfeather is the only one that actually still lives here.

I know for sure electriclady moved a while ago, and I think Jnig isn't living here anymore either, but I'm not 100% on that.

>>7728885
I think jnig is still here. I see her and peacockfeather at almost every con. Maybe they should team up. It'd be fun to see.

>>7728174
>It's really looking like the WCS stuff at Sabo is just gonna flop. Which, I honestly kinda want to see happen. Maybe it would serve as a wake up call for Greg and make him realize that the way he's running things isn't making people want to go to his cons.
That'd be nice. Probably not going to hppen, but it'd be nice.

>>7728885
>>7728942
Jnig still lives in the valley. She was on the local news recently.
But yeah, Kara has moved to Nevada I believe.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who hopes Sabo fails and Greg gets smacked in the face.

I'm still upset about what he did to Con-nichiwa.

>>7731327
god all i think about that con was how bad i felt for the tea party and maid cafes

The fact that Greg is only emailing out panel approvals tonight shows that everything is a mess as usual

>>7731349
I wonder if he'll actually mail them out though. I didn't submit anything this year and I'm pretty thankful I didn't.

>>7722467

But great doesn't own Taiyou Con. I think greg does

>>7722506

That does not seem like the case they are showing so much of the new location for Taiyou and it looks great

People who run panels, Greg keeps asking on how people like the new system of panel acceptance?

>>7734020
I'm pretty sure Mike or Gackto own/run Taiyou.

>>7735803
Mike is the Convention Director, Gackto and Jai are the financial backers, from what I know.

>>7734033
interested in this too because 'oh this system is so much better, we sorted through all the panels in days rather than weeks and already confirmed 96% of the panels!' makes me wonder why panels took so long to be picked in the first place

and on that note: Badge art contest is just now being opened until the 20th?? So after thought as always and rush printing because he's too cheap to just give a good artist compensation for decent badge art (and not that bull shit that's been on the programming guide the last few years)

>>7735906
I actually like the badge art contest. I don't enter it myself, but I've seen some really good art on the badges.

This con is coming up way too soon and I just want to go back to sleep.

>>7735906
What's new about the panel system that makes it different from before? Not asking as a sarcastic question, I'm just wondering because I don't know jack shit regarding panels.

Also, the programming guide is drawn by an old personal friend of his, so it's really unlikely that any Greg-Con programming guides will feature any other faces anytime soon or ever.

>>7736170
I'm going to pretend this is about me even though it's not.

Is this a good con for my first con? From what I'm reading, it's a small and comparatively shitty con so I guess I'll be blown away by my first large con.

I'm very nervous and excited and I convinced several friends to come with me. I hope they aren't too disappointed.

Also, what is the process of checking in like? Should I expect to wait in line for hours? Do you have to check in each day?

>>7714458
>>7710081
Wow those girls are probably more attractive that anyone I've seen at PCC.

How is Saboten anyways? Does it hae good panels and stuff? I've always been interested in a smaller con. I probably won't cosplay though.

>>7738053
Any other con will blow you away, but that's because aside from Taiyou and PCC, there really aren't any good conventions in AZ.
There isn't nearly enough people to make badge check in long, and if you purchase a full day badge you just need to check in once and you're good for the entire con.
If you're local to AZ, you already know how hot it's going to be but if you're from out of state, don't bring any heavy costumes as heat stroke is a problem we have.

>>7738053
>>7738097

Sabo isn't exactly a small convention. Probably the second biggest in AZ.
I'd probably place it as our fourth "goodest" con.

Just had a look at the forums, the room/ride section is pretty deas, huh.

>>7739037
That's really not saying much. I mean, PCC is getting pretty up there, but under Sabo is probably Taiyou as far as attendees go, and Taiyou is pretty tiny. There's a lot of leeway there.

>>7739243
PCC -> Sabo -> Con-nichiwa -> that comic one in January -> Taiyou -> that flagstaff one

>>7739281
Eh, I really don't think Con-Nichiwa is bigger. That shit was tiny this last year and the years before it. Just because it has a decently sized convention center, doesn't mean it has a lot of attendees.

Amazing Arizona is the comic one you mean, I think, which, I totally forgot about, but, yeah, that one is probably bigger. I'd say it and Sabo are around similar sizes from what I've heard.

>>7739292
According to the numbers it's PCC, Sabo, Connichiwa, Taiyou, that flagstaff one

Couldn't find the Amazing Arizona details.

>>7739037
>"fourth goodest con"
are you 12 or what

also

PCC > saboten > taiyou > conni

tu con in dead last if that even exists anymore

>>7738097
its basically shit, same panels every year, never any different. an expensive way to kick it with friends.

>>7739347
I meant to put conni in 3rd and taiyou 4th my bad

>>7739347
Please tell me our best conventions in order so I can correct my opinion that Sabo is the fourth best.

Kikori is actually a pretty decent con. It's nice to chill with Flagstaff bros, the only downside is the drive.

I'd rank AZ cons at Sabo>PCC>Kikori>Conni>Taiyou.

>>7738053
it's a great first con, while there aren't as many people there's still some really good cosplay to be seen. it's not really small and shitty as everyone makes it seem honestly, we all like to complain on /cgl/

>>7738097
yeah, anime babes>comicon babes

the panels aren't really anything special unless there's a guest of honor you wanna see. but there's still a good time to be had.

>>7739357
we all just did

>>7739475
I mean sure the weather and location are great in flagstaff but really kikori?? the convention area has always been really bad even when it was kaigi with poor layout, being way more cramped than any other con I've been to (why put literally everything in one hallway?). It's also a greg con so panels are the same as always but I never found the cosplay anything amazing?? I mean I was surprised how many people from phoenix and tucson went up the moment it changed hands even after seeing the location from the year before but w/e to each their own

>>7739694
I see one list of best to worst.

>>7739475
Right Kikori is the name. Forgot about how it replaced Kaigi.

>>7739711
I don't think it's a good convention either. All the panels are the same (which like you said is because it's a gregcon) and in general the guest/cosplay/events aren't very good. People went because they're starved for cons around that time.

But wait guys! How about Comic Media Expo making it's debut in October?
http://www.comicmediaexpo.com/

>>7739924
What about it? I've seen a few posts about it but not much else. It's a first year con so I mean we'll have to see how it does. All I can say is at least some of the guests are new and exciting to the area

>>7739886
I can't help that you have no reading comprehension skills

So programming guide first draft is up. Thoughts?

So its my first con and I saw the "dub your own anime" panel and I'd really like to do this! Do you just show up or do you have to register in advance for it?

>>7740985
You're retarded.

>>7742831
You can just show up. I'd recommend getting there early so you'll have more opportunities to participate.

>>7743588
How mature!

>>7714458


Eyyyy that's my friend Taylor Plecity. She has her full name on her cosplay page so yeah. look her up. She's amazing and super sweet.

>>7722425
Oh my god, I hated Taiyou. Worst con I have ever been to.
The hotel was expensive, even though I had six people in my room. Security lady running around was a BITCH and kept telling cosplayers that they were out of dress code and kept calling legit con media "creeps" for taking photos of cosplayers.

I will never attend again, even though one of my close friends is high up on staff.

It was a miserable con.

Oh, and the downstairs area where they hosted the raves, tea parties, and maid cafes?

Cool on the idea since it is away from the con and is an ACTUAL restaurant, but the lighting is god awful and the whole room really needs to be updated.

There was no ventilation, so during the rave is smelled TERRIBLE. Like more so than most con raves. And some fucking drunk college bros stampeded the rave and started shit. It was bad and the cops were called so the vibes were killed.

The lolita tea party was run fine, but the room was so dimly lit it was awful. I could barely see.

As for the maid cafe, I couldn't attend the AYS cafe I paid for because the idiots changed the date and time IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CON.

TL;DR

I will never attend again based off the fact I don't live in town, high hotel prices, and inexperienced staff.

It does have potential though. But until then, I will save my money for a better convention (or buy more brand)

>>7743938
Flannel Chan go to bed

>>7743938
The only complaint I had was the one-aisle vendor hall. I had a ton of fun otherwise.

>>7743942
lol.

>>7743938
>It does have potential though. But until then, I will save my money for a better convention
You mean like Bronycon

Also we all know that your fat Target paycheck isn't what's buying all that burando, who do you think you're fooling?

>>7709984

This will be my first con!
Any tips for me?
I'm probably going in cosplay all weekend.

>>7744982
don't die of heatstroke and don't be an ass

>>7744982

What do you recommend for the heat? I'm coming in from out of state.

Just drink water?

>>7745000
was meant to be a reply for
>>7744992

>>7745000
yeah make sure you drink water, the one good thing about most AZ cons is they've started providing water around the convention site like in the backs of panel rooms and such. But also you need to be mindful of little things like photoshooting outside and walking to a restaurant for dinner. inside is usually pretty cool and comfortable but being outside can be daunting depending on the outfit

>>7745042

What are the best restaurants within walking distance of the con?
In terms of price and quality of food.

>>7745128
There's actually a marketplace sorta thing right next to the hotel so there's quite a few to choose from. You should just look up the location.

>>7745128
There's kabuki which offers a happy hour, pretty good prices on sushi and tempura. also a chipotle, and a restaurant in the hotel. there was also a couple food trucks last year, they didn't look too good

>>7745000
Drink water, rest, don't be in the sun for too long. If you have a prop, be mindful of it. Are there parts of your prop or costume that are heat sensitive? Arizona will still be around 100 by the time Sabo comes around. If you have a car, don't leave stuff like that in there. I also don't suggest layers (like Annas travel outfit from Frozen) unless you know you'll be staying inside.

>>7743938
The hotel wasn't even that expensive I don't know what you're talking about? if you have six people in your room then the person getting your room probably charged you more.

>"As for the maid cafe, I couldn't attend the AYS cafe I paid for because the idiots changed the date and time IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CON."

It wasn't changed in the middle of the convention either it was listed on signs and banners and stuff about the change if you missed it was your own fault.

I'm super excited that they moved out of that hotel so I can't wait for next year!

I just want to see what Taiyou has to announce already, I want to see guests, I hear that they have some pretty good guests this year.

>>7747753
I hate how they wait til the last moment

bump

>>7748104
I'm sure if we talk enough about it here, Mike will show up and at least drop some hints. He's always been pretty good about acknowledging /cgl/'s presence in the con community.

>>7749443
http://youtu.be/YwyML9wEDew
wish sabo had a funny video

>>7749562
Holy shit that's funny. Did any of that stuff actually air on tv? I live way south by the border so I never see commercial for stuff in in Tempe or Mesa

>>7749797
No it didn't.

I wish they still made videos like this. There hasn'treally been any new ones since Dustin stopped being con-director.

on the note of commercials has anyone actually seen the saboten commercial that's supposedly running on cartoon network this month?

>>7748104
>>7749443

Sorry guys its taking me a little longer than I expected but news is coming out soon. Please just bare with me a little longer

bump

>>7750126
Can't seem to find a link. I did see it and it consists of like four picture slides with a voiceover. Very subpar.

>>7750366
So you're.... working!! on it?

>>7756563
sounds real bad. But hey, maybe it'll be informative to anyone watchin adventure time, or whatever the kids watch now days.

or [adult swim]

is WCS still happening at saboten this year? i heard they were short on teams

>>7759071
Yes it is. There are 7 teams competing and they just announced the judges. I guess everyone waited until the last minute to sign up. You can watch the WCS Prelims US facebook page if you want to keep up on it.

>>7756691
I dont have a good reaction for my reaction

I heard Flannel-chan was organizing the cosplay gatherings at sabo, so those most likey going to bomb. I roomed with her once too, never again.

>>7760525
>Flannel-chan
Stop trying to make this happen

>>7743938
> It does have potential though. But until then, I will save my money for a better convention (or buy more brand)
cool beans, Taiyou doesn't need critics like you.

>>7759071

It is. Teams were announced on the FB page.

>>7760547
make what happen? a glorious train wreak of spaghetti?

>>7761489
I am hoping the Monster Hunter group gets it, from what I saw of them up close they were really solid.

Outside of them, I know that Nyunyu has a pretty solid chance, and Team Magpie looks pretty okay. But what the fuck is up with the team pictures using myspace quality photos. Everything about the WSC Prelims at Saboten looks like totally out of place and unprofessional.

>>7760525
roomie horror stories? Please tell. I'll grab the popcorn

>>7760547
What would you prefer instead?

>>7761611
I think those three are the only ones with a chance tbh. Team magpie I want to see more of their stuff IRL before I make a pass on them because pretty on the outside or online doesn't mean shit. Monster hunter I think depending on their skit can do it, my only concern it their craftsmanship because after looking at their stuff up close for a while it's not bad, but it does need a lot of refinement based on their conni stuff so I'm interested in seeing what they bring to the table. Nyunyu's group has a pretty solid track record of decent work so we'll see what an AKB skit will involve

and as for photo quality: surprised but not since it's arizona

>>7762983
I don't know if we should judge a book by its cover. Cosplay zone has a pretty large track record around the country for their acting. They might surprise us.
I'm kinda bothered by the monster hunter groups lack of wigs but that could have been just those costumes. Idk I don't know much about the teams.

Other then the pictures do we know anything about the other teams?

>>7764590
didn't cosplay zone also bring us the fursuits of horror? IDK if it's the same people but... we'll have to see.

As for the other teams, Dragon Roulette I've seen a ton and they've never left much of an impression personally. Very bland faces and pretty average craftsmanship. As for the other teams Princess Butts are the only other ones I've ever interacted with and with that it's been pretty limited to buttercup. She's not a bad person in the slightest but I feel that they lack.... refinement I guess is the right word. I can't follow her page because she just posts everything with very little filtering of photos if any. I also feel that her tailoring is kinda off as well as her makeup but that's just me.

As for more than that? I don't know too many of them quite well, just the normal 'hey I see you at every con and we happen to have conversations every so often'

>>7764638
Yeah, those fursuits were cosplay zone. They might be decent actors, but their costumes don't match up at all.

>>7764638
Oh god don't remind me of the Fursuits of Horror!

>>7761982

Shutting the fuck up is a good start

bump

So since it's slow and what almost a week before the con: What are you guys actually looking forward to at sabo?

>>7769289
I've been thinking about this for a while now. Honestly the only thing I am really looking forward to is seeing some of my girlfriends who don't live in town that I don't get to see very often. Sabo is such a drag now a days. Everything is way too disorganized, the events are lame, no one cares about the guests, and the programming is in shambles. Vendors hall was packed last year because of that stupid lazortag thing. There is no mainstream series that I really like ATM so I doubt I'll see any cosplayers I like. It's really hard for me to name one thing outside of seeing friends that I am looking forward to :c

looks like the masquerade is full this year... i didnt think people still entered such thing. are people from arizona even worth going to see the masq?

>>7769469
There are a couple of pretty decent costumers here, but a lot of it isn't likely to be anything spectacular.

look it's the return of the moe desu art

>>7765070
pls Flannel-chan

>>7769330

I've come from England (sort of) to see Iruma Rioka. All I care about is the music.

>>7769772

lol you are so lame

just stop

>>7769772
it's old, stop

>>7769289
Most stoked to see everyone's cosplay & /cgl/ meet

>>7772826
When and where is the meet up again?

>>7710031
Kongou + Arizona? Marry me?

>>7710081
Hey that's Sheila of Aicosu.

>>7743938
Taiyou's room was like 89 bucks a night.

With 6 people you should have paid 30-40 dollars.

Also you can't blame Taiyou for one of the Hotel's room being bad.
Or for one guard. Was it a convention security? or hotel security? Because if you say Con security I know you're a lying bitch.

>>7735817
Correct. Mikeman runs Taiyou. Kato and Jai just supply the money.


I have heard many people think Greg owns Taiyou.

One cunt, even had the gull to call her "friend" Greg, the director of Taiyou

>>7747753
As someone who got a sneak peak on what guests are coming, I can say If you have any taste in anime or video games at all, this guest will blow your minds,

I'm even suprised they got them. And no it isn't Vic McNugget

>>7773181
Not same anon but can confirm there was one hired police woman for security. Not sure if she was hired by the hotel or by the convention but she was really stupid and out of line. She bitched out the cafe for not having badges on WHILE WORKING (cafés don't wear badges during hours to look nicer) and then she was bitching at people to leave because they didn't have badges when they were IN LINE to get them. She also bashed a couple photographers asking us for photos and said we shouldn't dress in such kink uniforms. As far as I heard she was asked to leave.

>>7773181
>Taiyou's room was like 89 bucks a night.

>With 6 people you should have paid 30-40 dollars.

89/6=14.83

what even is math

>>7773227
times 2-3 nights is $30-$40

>>7773326
whoops

>>7773326
I went with two nights plus tax

>>7773212
Ok so event staff, aka rent a cops.

I thought they meant one of the grade A security members

>>7773181
I can't remember how much it was per night exacty.
But I feel like I somehow got like a $400 bill at the end (I put my card down for the hotel, and there weren't any incendentials charged to the room so)

Thinking about it, I think it was $60 a person. But someone backed out on me last minute so I got stuck paying their bill and it was $120, plus I think I paid a lot for my badge?
I can't remember. So maybe it was just a lot for me.
So I guess for now I'll take my comment back about expensive hotel.

All I remember is that at the con my friend and I were so bored, so being bored at a con we spent gas, hotel, and badge at it wasn't worth it.
One of our roomies was so bored he left and went home during Saturday.

All I can say is I was super bored that con and do not plan on traveling for it again. Not even if there's a killer guest name.
I was pretty bored and would rather save my money/time off for future conventions.

It does make me happy that the bitchy security lady won't be back. She was a nightmare

>>7773442
>being bored at a convention

Well I hope you're not planning on going to sabo then. Or any other Greg con for that matter. Same shit every year. In fact, I think it gets worse every year tbh

>>7773442
Cons are only boring if you're a boring person as far as I'm concerned. Hell, Tucon was still fun despite being a train wreck because of the people and shenanigans we had.

>>7774025
Honestly the only AZ anime con worth going to is Taiyou.

Greg is a manipulative megacunt.

>>7773442
Your comment really gets me thinking: 'I paid for this I shouldn't be bored!' Is the mentality I feel, and that might be the underlying problem of cons, and our biggest issue with AZ cons being 'boring'. We complain about Greg's cons being always the same, but that's his business practice isn't it? If he knows it does well why change it for a gamble on what might not pay out. That's probably why we se more old school and very popular things being the themes of his cons (cowboy bebop, eva, silent hill) because he knows they have an established fanbase and he can make money off of the general populous. Taiyou I feel follows more with what's currently popular and niche things, and their willingness to stay current and take gamble's might be why we feel that they have better potential.

I personally think that AZ cons should cater better to bringing new content to their shows in the sense of 'oh hey you really like to draw? Well instead of just having drawing 101 panels with guests let's bring in sponsors to help teach' because personally one of my highlights of my first cons was doing a copic marker demo panel where they taught you how to use the markers (and provided some to everyone during the panel to play with) On that note I would like to see more industry, like I do like the voice actor panels, I want to see funi and viz talk about what they're bringing to the table in merch for the next semester, new releases etc. I feel like that would help balance the sheer number of basically shitty fanpanels that are just there to 'discuss' shows and do fan Q and A's. Might be a long shot and a dumb opinion, but I feel like if you're bored, find something to do, but at the same time the cons should help cater to those of us that go to every event, older, and a little further on in learning than first time con goers.

>>7772826
>>7772834
Are we having one? Is anyone actually interested?
Last year's turnout was nonexistant.

>>7773167
Maybe at level 99.

>>7775354
To be completely honest I think Taiyou is trying to be a respectable party con. If that's even a thing? While there guest they bring out are not always main stream guest I've always had fun going and the voice actors I've liked and haven't seen out in as. I plan to keep going back to see it goes.

>>7775721
Oh to add to this, I've always seen mike-sama(?) Always at the bar and is super approachable. Which is nice. I might go joke around with him and call him a faggot or something.

>>7775354
I've staffed several Greg cons and can vouch he has the mentality of "If it ain't broke, why fix it?" Which is admirable, but yeah I can agree it's getting boring.

I'll see how I feel this Sabo since I'm just staffing?
I'm getting to an age where I want QUALITY conventions, not quantity like AZ churns out, generally.

>>7775868
To add on though, Greg seems to be open to con-crit.

>>7775868
*just attending, not just staffing.
Damn my typos.

>>7775872
>Greg seems to be open to con-crit.

I /strongly/ disagree on this one. Greg is super opposed to any sort of criticism. Any time someone has brought up something to him on a person to person basis in my circle of friends he always gets super defensive and throws out responses like, "Well you don't understand what it's like to run a Business" and "The inner workings of a convention are just too difficult for you to get" I have never heard him take a bit of criticism and use him to better his conventions, maybe he just has beef with every single person that I know, however I highly doubt that's the case since our community isn't the most vast, but it is pretty varied and I try to interact with as many people as I can. Even if you don't know anyone who has tried to suggest something or voice their opinion to Greg, you can use this video as a metric to go by.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EglgjHEUicc

>>7775724
don't let him see the sama bit, it'll go straight to his head.

But yeah Mike's an okay guy the times I've hung out with him though, but lately I've been been getting the 'college bro douche bag' feeling from him. IDK might be the beard, might my lack of interest in anything he's put out thus far for the con

Michael if you are reading this, barbeque sauce

>>7776407
From the words of someone who drove cross country to burn a trailer down
Mike is a strongarmed cunt

We definitely need a meetup, even if the con isn't boring.

If anyone wants to dress up a 100 lbs guy in pretty clothes do reply

Full disclosure: I'm pretty drunk right now and will likely deny everything

>>7776407
I wouldn't go as far as saying he is the "college bro douche bag" at all. Who doesn't like people praising them? Every time I hang out with him while a little loud he seems very modest.

>>7776407

Its probably because of my beard

>>7776629
You were drunk in the fucking middle of the day on a Sunday? Jesus cgl

>>7777630
Pretty sure that's four in the morning.

>>7777265

still love you Mike, you'll always be my senpai

>>7777630

I have an excuse, I'm at a con!

What's attendance like for this con?

>>7778330
lots and lots of teens
it's a healthy sized convention

>>7778434
Would I be in for a bad time if I want to go and spend all day every day moderately intoxicated?

>>7778330
I'm guessing it might be a little more crowded than usual. I think WCS is going to bring in people from out of state. I'm hoping folks from SoCal are sobered up by then to come.

>>7778437
It's dull and costs too much but I've strolled the con in all stages of inebriation just fine. Didn't make it any funner though.

>>7778437
I think it would be more interesting if you were high rather than drunk. If you're looking to get drunk for cheap, wait for the Margaritaville happy hour. That's what I'm going to do.

I just cruised through the saboten 2014 tag on tumblr to see if there was anything going on and out of curiosity. Mostly shitty Attack on Titan, MLP, LoK, Homestuck and Hetalia cosplays.

I don't know what I expected when I went on tumblr tonight, but I think I'll be joining you guys for a drink at the con.

So my friend offered to get me some passes to Saboten con, which is a smaller con around here. It's a week away and he has a group of mostly cosplaying friends, and says it's kind of weird to go to a smaller con without doing SOMETHING. The only con I've really been to outside of it was Phoenix Comi-Con. I'm wondering if you have any ideas of generic things I could easily cosplay that aren't like what everyone's doing but at least show that I put some effort even though I have a week to prepare at most.

-I'm a male
-5'10"
-170lbs
-Wear glasses
-Curly hair, can't really do anything with it.

I asked this in the help thread and I got told to go as Sora from NGNL but he's a little too attractive and protaganist-y for me.

>>7778484
You're spamming this shit not just here, but on other boards. You don't deserve help.

>>7778484
...just don't cosplay.
You won't die.

>>7778522
I second this. We don't need anymore half assed shitastic cosplays. Just cruise as a normal fag, you'll be glad you did.

>>7778522
Totally agree with this. If you're going to cosplay, decide it for yourself. Don't leave it up to a random internet lottery of suggestions based on vague and extremely general "description" of yourself.

So they released the programming guide.
tinyurl/oeqx5od
Honestly, I'm not a lolita, but the Iron Lolita challenge sounds pretty cool.

So, all of two people have expressed direct interest in a meetup? And a lot of others are acting like it's a given that it's happening? So I'm not really sure if I should be doing this, but I really liked the location from last year. Is there a time/date that works best for you guys?

>>7778434
LOTS AND LOTS OF TEENS!
BIG TEENS, LITTLE TEENS, STEAM TEENS, DIESEL TEENS AND PASSENGER TEENS, EVEN TEENS THAT BLOW THROUGH SNOW! OLD TEENS, NEW TEENS, FAST TEENS, SLOOOOOW TEENS. SMOKIN' TEENS! EVEN TEENS FROM AROUND THE WORLD!

>>7778699
..um

>>7777630
it's five o'clock somewhere

>>7778699
i fuckin choked

>>7778699
That brought back memories from High School I thought I'd never get back.

>>7778526
>>7778525
Alright. Well one more question. How is the game room at Saboten?

>>7779468
Excellent. AZHP is the best thing about sabo, conni, and other Greg cons

>>7779520
Well then that's a huge plus for me then. I love fighting games and I'm always looking for places where I can compete against other people.

>>7778669
I feel like the courtyard would be fine, assuming it doesn't get overrun with photoshoots or whatever.
Any time that's not noon works best for me though, but since it would be outside I'd suggest an evening time?

>>7769289
Looking forward to:
J-Fashion show
K-Pop dance contest

Everything else..meh. I'm only interested in those top two because I'm IN them this year. Lordy bless I'm not ready to dance in front of a crowd.

>>7779892

I'm in the dance contest too, what song are you doing?

>>7779915
Tis a secret :o
Mostly cause it's gonna suck but I just said "what the hell" and went with it anyway

>>7779956

I hope you're not the person who took Good Luck from me, we'll be mortal enemies.

I can't wait to see you this weekend! I know you'll do well

>>7779577
It's actually not that hot, since it's misted. I know ours was like 3(?) last year and it was pretty comfortable in temperature. But yeah, whatever works.

>>7779526
I've known Frank the guy who runs the game room for like 5 years. He has put his blood and sweat into AZHP.

He has gone from everyone bringing their own equipment and mismatched tv's to company owned consoles, all lagless evo monitors and a ton of fight sticks for every setup.

He even has fans, smelly spray, and hand sanitizer to try for a clean and not sweaty gameroom. You can't prevent smelly people, but you can try to mask it

I'm excited for the boobies lounge because I like boobies

>>7780751
Don't you run the lounge? did you forget to take off your trip?

>>7780778

let's be honest tho, who isn't excited for boobies?

>>7780778
No I meant to keep that on. I'm a huge space dandy fan and I just wanted to say how excited I am for it..

Is anyone checking out on Tuesday? Need a place to store our liquor on Monday evening, since we're checking out that morning and leaving at night

>>7780751
wow this makes you sound really creepy...

My friend says he has a friend group that consists mostly of cosplay girls that go to Saboten.

Should I prepare myself to hear some insane shit when I go with him?

>>7778669
>>7779577
5pm Saturday in the courtyard?

>>7782300
I think it might still be too hot outside at 5:00 PM

So what should I do at Saboten?

Gonna be honest, looked at the scheduling and nothing really caught my fancy.

>>7782448
Drink Alcohol

>>7780334
Frank is a creep and a skeezlord

>>7782311
It's misted and shaded. Last year at 3:00 it was really comfortable outside.

>>7782300
>>7782486
>>7782311
I think 5 would work pretty good. Sun starts setting at around 6-ish if I'm not mistaken and with the rain we've been getting it hopefully won't be too hot.

>>7782520
>with the rain we've been getting
Maybe you've been getting rain in Tuscon, but it tends to evaporate before it hits the ground here in Glendale.
Really though, this whole summer, I've only seen one instance of rain. Very light rain.

But yeah, I can get onboard with 5.

>>7782530
Fuck I wish it rained in Tucson. If we get any, its gone in less then 5 minuets. But it's more clouds and threatening then anything else. But maybe other areas of town are more lucky then I am.

>>7781525
Oops I never meant it to come across like that, just a small joke.

>>7781525
Yeah, but he is really not creepy at all in person.

>>7782757
It didn't, that person is a faggot

>>7782520
So 5pm on Saturday in the courtyard, then? I'm down.

>>7782757

>>7782771

How many of you are new, how many are regulars, and is anyone planning on hosting a party?

I'm in Phoenix on Thursday and have heard there's there's some good comedy clubs, anyone want to meet up and go check some out?

>>7782763
I want to say Bullshit, because I've heard some of the stuff Mike says.

But in all truths Mike says it not to be creepy, but he says it because he's a dumbass(some of most of the time)

>>7782815
There are only three regulars and I might have a party Saturday or Sunday because I live a few miles down the road

>>7782999
I'm going to call bullshit on that though, I hang out with him at cons a lot though and while he is still a dumbass (sorry mike but you are) he is in no way a creep. With all of the other creeps in the AZ community mike is no where near the status of creep.

>>7783355
He's said some really pervy and skeevy shit in the past, bro.

>>7783361
He's a big nerd. We're all big nerds. Can't we all just get along?

>>7782815
I'm completely new and am going with a friend. Don't know a soul there and planning on spending most of my time in the game room.

>>7783361
And? Just because he "may" have said something like that in the past doesn't mean he's like that now, people change. Like I said as well there are much worse people that you need to watch out for.

>>7783366
I agree we should all just get a long.

>>7783361
You've provably done some stupid stuff in the past as well that make people judge you.

>>7783355
I never said he was. He does a lot of stuff that is a bit off though, like Strawberry Kimonos.

He may be a dumbass, but he is our groups dumbass, and that's why we keep him around.

>>7783361
Yeah he has, but he's still one of the harder workers out there, even if he has bad taste in Video games.

>>7783385
Yeah I guess that's true, he does try hard and it shows.

>>7783384
>>7783377
When i say the "past" I mean like anytime that isn't right now. Dude really needs to learn that it's not always okay to just mouth off about someone he's thinks is hot or about how his most recent waifu has the best tits or how his exes were great in bed.

Sure, he works hard, and he's not a terrible person, but he's kinda creepy and he's been acting like a frat bro more and more as time goes on.

soo I just woke up! How about that Saboten con? Anyone have Cosplay plans?

>>7783409

>creepy
>talks about anime girls

really? do you even know where you are?

>>7783409
Mike is like the Anti Frat bro.

All you have to do is Tell him Luka and Purple Heart are bad waifus and he gets put in his place/

>>7783414
I plan to cosplay Mike from AZ Dollars.

>>7783409
But he doesn't really do that at all sure he says a character is cute but it usually ends there. He doesn't talk about actual people, he's not like that.

I also don't think you actually know what frat bros act like....

>>7783420
do you need a partner when you cosplay him? I was planning on cosplaying his twin Anthony from midnight channel

>>7783465
Anthony isn't part of Dolalrs you Pleb. He joined AZMC, a much better panelist group

>>7783481
>"Anthony from midnight channel"
please at least read my post

>>7783418
The way he talks about them gets creepy at times.
>>7783420
He talks about how much he likes to drink how much he likes boobs and the stupid stuff he's done in the past all the time. if he was super into sports instead of weeaboo shit, he'd fit frat bro to a tee.

>>7783423
You, uh, you don't spend a lot of time around him do you? he's never really come across as dangerous to me, but he does say some really pervy stuff from time to time about a lot of things

He just really needs to learn to think before he opens his mouth
i dont really care about what turns him on but he doesnt need to tell everyone about it all the time

>>7783697

Yes I do spend a lot of time with him, when have you spent a large amount of time with him?
Since when were you around him when he's done that? He's hasn't mentioned drink in a lot of the most resent cons, pluses who doesn't say they like to drink at convention so many people say it at these AZ cons about how they want to go get wasted/ day drinking and such. I still don't see him as a frat at all, I think you just think to low of him.

Plus the only time he mentions stupid stuff he's done in the past is when people bring it up, which happens to be a lot. It seems like every time he makes a mistake everyone jumps on him.

>>7783758
You know what, that's totally fair. Maybe you have spent more time with him than me, or its something like Ive been near him more frequently when he's said something stupid.

I dont currently think very highly of him and I think he needs to get his head on straight cause, from what I've been seeing, he's not thinking straight recently

And, sure, maybe your his best friend or something, so sure stand up for him, but shouldn't you call him out? And I don't mean just jump on him when he makes a mistake, I mean actually make sure he realizes what he did and that he should try to do better in the future

I dont hate him or whatever, but for real, dude needs to actually learn from his mistakes more often.

>>7783775
Is not that dumb to know he knows when he makes a mistake and he fixes it quickly. We do let him know when he's made a mistake but normally he knows when he's make a mistake.

I think his heads mot on straight because he started ASU this past week so that and work is where all of his time is going to. Maybe he is burnt out I don't know you'll have to ask him yourself. Just send him a message he will probably respond to you -assuming your friends on Facebook-

Sooooooooooooooooo how about actual saboten stuff. Any good place to eat around the con?

>>7783697
>He talks about how much he likes to drink how much he likes boobs

are you some sort of horrible monster who doesn't like boobs and drinking?

>>7783907
Both are fine, i just dont work them into every conversation

>>7783907

teetotal gay men are horrible monsters?

>>7783920
Neither does mike.

>>7783420
I thought he liked Green Heart.

>>7783808
The programming guide linked above has most of the locations in the area. The Kabuki's is pretty good, and so is the wings place. I might hop over to the Tanger's mall for some quicker food though.

>>7783808
seconding kabuki, try to go during happy hour for some cheap sushi.

another good place for HH is yard-house. there's also a chipotle and a which wich (ate at both last year). oh and a pizza place

Why do most people in Arizona have such shit taste in anime?

>>7784577
Post your 3x3 hot shot

>>7784593
You're not disputing their point one bit.

>Was gonna go dressed as Vincent (wasn't going to copy the hair and face though)
>Can't even find the fucking clothes I need
Oh well I guess I'll follow my friend's cue and put a bedsheet over my head and pretend to be a ghost

I herd Mike is gonna be shimakaze

>>7783414
Thank you for getting this back on topic.
I plan on wearing little to nothing cosplay wise because it's going to be high 90's most of the weekend it looks like.
>>7783808
Food wise there's a little mall like section not even 1/4 of a mile from the hotel with plenty of options, most pretty good. I'd stray away from the maid cafes or lolita tea parties though, food poisoning on both accounts last year.
>>7784668
Please cut too many holes in the bedsheet and be Charlie Brown. Please.

>>7784797
Yeah. My friend said he already had cosplay now anyways so I might do the bedsheet thing and be Charlie Brown unless I can get my Vincent or Sora thing somehow going tomorrow. (I'm going to see all three raves probably unless my friend needs to go so I'm going to be too tired to try and pull anything over the weekend).

Now I just need to be in the game room 100% and play Street Fighter silently and talk to no one.

>>7783414
No cosplay plans this year due to being extra swamped with classes and my jobs :/
Just volunteering and hoping to look overall decent. I have a themed outfit Sunday for the Dance Contest though but that's it~

>>7779959
Haha no I stick to girl group dances. Good luck to you too *thumbs up*

>>7784797
Aren't you the gal who is dating that one 28 year old pedophile?

>>7784867
What? Who? Deets man

>>7784680
That one is not going to happen I'm going to be bullet again and something else

>>7784895
I was so hyped, and now you've let me down.

>>7784867
Please find that thread in the archives as I would love to laugh at it again.

>>7784904

>>7784908
I don't think we will ever find it.

Although I liked that thread, because someone noticed me in it. It made me feel special.

>>7784880
there was a kara/peacockfeather thread years back that turned into a general az thread. someone asked about other notable people and some guy went off about like 30 people who did panels and stuff. and there were just a bunch of hilarious rumors that were spread. but no one archived it

Does anyone know if Iruma Rioka is doing a concert? I can't find anything about it on the website, but I've heard there is one.

>>7786141

Yes they are, it's in the program. They're also doing something else on another day, I guess a Q&A.

>>7786141
Saturday: 2:00 PM-3:00 PM Iruma Rioka Panel in Solana I
Sunday: 3:30 PM-4:30 PM Iruma Rioka Concert in Solana A

>tfw my friend met his wealthy fiance and is now a trophy husband

>>7786158
>tfw I forgot to mention that it was at Saboten

This is what I get.

Fuck sleep.

>>7786155

That's an early concert, I think certain measures will have to be taken.

>>7786230
> Implying it's ever too early to drink at a con

>>7786334
Does anyone know where the nearest liquor/convenience store is? Google Maps is showing nothing.

>>7786340
I already can imagine the "not-actually raunchy" hotel room parties now.

>>7786340
At worst, we can have it delivered. I'm sure there's something near the hotel, though.

>>7786410
Maybe it's just me, but conventions aren't fun unless moderate drinking is involved.

>>7786436
I'm still figuring out my drinking level. I will probably only go to a party if my friend goes to one because let's be honest, I'm not going to be invited.

I like raves better anyways.

>>7786334
I was drunk before 3 last year and the closest convenience stores I can think of are on 91st and Northern.

Speaking of getting drunk I need to find a way to make a trick can for cosplay so I can drink at Taiyou

>>7786532
>get a bottle of sprite
>fill a third of it with vodka
>act like a huge jackass

>get home from college
>4 hours to finally try and make my costumes

Oh well at least if they look like shit I have my backup.

>tfw I realize I probably coulda just ordered shirts off of Amazon with 2-day shipping for cheaper instead of trying to bargain bin it

>>7786612
>>7786615
Please stop bumping this thread with irrelevant posts

>>7786538
I actually need it to be a Can of Beer for a prop.

But I fuck it it's Taiyou, No one will say anything to me.

>>7786786
Taiyou is pretty lax with most things so long as you aren't doing anything illegal. Not sure if that's going to change with the new location, but I'm sure no one will shoo you off because you have a beer in hand.

My cosplay for some of the con

>>7786970
What days? I also have some luchador gear

Heading out now with no prints and one and a half cosplays. See you guys today/tomorrow?

>>7787474
I'm going to bother you guys erryday

If anyone gets bored there's always a Candy Factory tour with all you can eat chocolate and http://www.historic-glendale.net/ that might be interesting to see.

>>7787914
That is down the the street from me so I'll go
I haven't done that since Pokemon Silver

>>7787914
DT/Old Town Glendale is always fun to wander around at! Drawn to Comics is on that main road, the owner and his wife are hella nice.

>>7787933

How does it look, is it worth photographing people there?

Also we're on autosage.

>>7787951
It has some lovely areas, but generally a lot of people walking around on the weekends.

Also, made a new thread >>7787957

>>7786970
Ian?