/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>7754184
>Frilluminati

I'm a neutral party to this and I think her status was immature. I'm new to the community and have only been to two meet-up. I think there are some girl in the community I would like to be friends with but I'm not going to be posting a crazy status to be friends with them.

>>7755521

I like that term. Frilluminati. I'm going to try to work that into my vocabulary now.

bump

Why so much fights between lolitas?

Also girls always want to be prettier than people, feel the superior ones.
Okay you want to be the best, but not in a bitching way.

When this stupid people appears?

I remember, years ago, when I entered into lolita. There was a nice place, kind girls helping each others. Lately, it become "popular", and some stupid people appears. Critizing all. Hating when someone is best dressed at her. Like have no life. And some friends starts acting like them. That sucks. Sucks when in my group, some people make fun at itas, or other lolitas; I think that's have no respect for people.

Also the "ita"
Well, I don't care about that. I have my own bussiness and my own life. Also they're not that bad: people is free to do they want. Maybe they like to dress like that, or they're beggining at lolita, or simply not have enough money to buy some clothes. I not have reasons for make laugh at them. Just give her some tips, or maybe lend any dress...
Also say (not know if it's a coincidence) but itas seems nicest than pretty lolitas.

Don't you think, so much people make laugh at us, critize us, injury us... To have fights between us? Is not so hard to leave stupid things and remain togheter.

But I guess, there are bad people, or just bitches, around the world.

Have a good day.

>>7755823

>>7755823
QQ harder

>>7755823
Hi Linda!
You look like a stuffed sausage in salopettes, please stop wearing them~
Sincerely,
Anon <3

Keep drinking that Matsuri koolaid.

>>7755823
Oh man, this copypasta never gets old.

>>7755823
Years ago lolitas were even bitchier than they are now. Remember lolitafucks? How busy all the LJ drama comms were?

>>7755905
I wanted to go to that Teaparty but they way they handled things really sucks.

>>7755914
Yes it does

>>7755836
>"Hi ____"
burn, die, I will shit on your fucking brand
I use your shit headress on a maxipad, you fucking dumb cunt

>not knowing its a copypasta
twice as retarded


>no

>>7755836
>"Hi ____"
burn, die, I will shit on your fucking brand
I use your shit headress for a maxipad, you fucking dumb cunt

>not knowing its a copypasta
twice as retarded

i want this person to go away

>>7756414
The fact that they have a homestuck picture set as their profile picture should say a lot.

My comm is small and meh. While I like most of the older crowd, almost all of the new girls are poorly dressed. We're nice and friendly but pretty boring, and we don't have meetups that often. Even when we do, we're lucky if 10 people show up.
I guess I am apathetic about my comm.

>>7757009
Apathetic is a really good description imho.
Once upon a time I really cared about my comm and I put a lot of effort into it. But nowadays I couldn't give a toss.

>>7755905
>>7756044
Don't go to the tea party, reading that thread all I got from it was that AM's attitude to criticism is "I guess we fucked up last year, but we know that so don't worry! This year is different! We cannot pinpoint how, and we will already make premature promises, but give us your money anyway!"

Who the fuck gets MORE extravagant and does a SECOND tea party when they can't even manage to pull ONE off?

>>7756999
Mods keep telling her to keep it to her personal FB and deleting her posts but she doesn't get it.

Since you are in the same comm, can we talk about that terrible "professional photographer" who keeps posting blurry badly lit crap?

Meanwhile I'm thankful that we have these people to complain about and not cancerchan or any of the other bad drama causers we used to.

Also from a small comm. Everyone is nice and there's never any drama, but only a couple of the members actually wear brand or just dress decently in general. The mod is a real sweetheart, but can't dress herself for shit, which bums me out.

But I suppose I'd rather be in a friendly ill-dressed comm than a well-dressed one with a ton of drama.

My comm is gaining a massive amount of newbies after a convention and now it's full of stupid questions and bad advice. I want to ask our mods to possible make a "no advice from members newer than six months" rule but I don't know how well it would go.

>>7755823

has the comm drama well dried up or something ?

>>7758517
It's a lot of rehashing lately so ... yeah.

>>7755916
I'm inclined to agree. I'm sure that a lot of those posters from that time have gotten older and (somewhat) mature, and it seems like people are more open about things like the idea of constructive criticism and broader styles. If anything, we know that egl has become a hug box.

>>7758525
Well, even before they quit lolita, a lot of the people involved in lolita fucks had changes of heart/grew up a bit.

>>7757045
sucks because if she gets booted she's just going to baw "OMG ALL RORIS ARE BRANDWHORE BITCHES THAT DONT CARE ABOUT MY OFFBURANDO STRUGGLES"

did cancerchan ever get taken to court? did people ever get their money back?

A girl in my comm asked people to vote for her in that stupid youtube competition being talked about here >>7755558. Not many people liked the post, and with good reason, I think. Shamelessly self-promoing on the group page is pretty shitty, and this girl is not very well dressed at all. Thankfully the outfits she wore in the video are marginally better than the itatastic ones on her FB, but still.

My comm is also very friendly and "drama free," so I feel like I can't even say anything to anyone about it.

>>7757045
Which person are you talking about because a lot of the girls post terrible photos.

>>7757043
Sorry for asking, but what happened last year?

>>7758148
I'm just curious, why does everyone who's in a badly dressed comm say that? Being well-dressed and drama-free aren't mutually exclusive.

>>7759389
This. I'm in two different comms and they're relatively well dressed, and pretty drama free. We only discuss other's drama.

>>7759389
Not that anon, but I've made similar posts.
I've also been a part of a much better dressed comm that was like a viper den, so when I say I'd rather have one over the other, I don't mean to imply that there isn't a nice and well-dressed comm, merely that I've experienced both and prefer my current ugly-but-nice comm.

What comms are generally nice and well-dressed? Are any in the US? It seems like the foreign comms are better in general.

I love how much shade some of the HLC girls were throwing at GLW earlier this summer, and how pretty much every one of them went to the cupcake party at the GLW headquarters today. Especially Jona, she made such a big deal out of selling off all of her GLW wigs and assuring her precious followers that she'd washed her hands of their awful business, and yet here she was stuffing her face with GLW's cupcakes in all of her over-contoured glory. What a bunch of two-faced bitches.

>>7760118
>What a bunch of two-faced bitches.
... isn't this the summary of every HLC drama post ever?

>>7760118
Wow I didn't know Jona had gone!
Really? After saying she'd never wear their wigs again, doesn't promote them...
even saying she was annoyed they used some piece of her in their wig to say how awesome the wig is at one point.

>>7760124
Yes. I just enjoy seeing it manifest in ways other than contradicting facebook posts and screenshots. This is an afternoon spent actively contradicting opinions they were so vocal about and it's hilarious.

>>7760132
Do have examples? Unluckily I cant watch as I'm not in HLC.

>>7760132
I just can't help but wonder why people even involve themselves any more. If they're really that awful, split off. Make a new comm free from the AM bullshit or something.

>>7760131
Yeah, she wore that mediocre-ass Hexenhaus coord too. The second GLW started sending Instagram traffic her way she shut the Hell up and let it happen.

>>7760145
I didn't realize those photos were from the GLW party. I thought they were just chilling at someone's house.

>>7760154
Nope, this is at GLW headquarters.

>>7760141
actually the event was not hlc only
facebook events / 462667920537074

>>7760131
I took this screenshot almost 2 weeks ago and forgot to say something about it, lol.

>>7760145
Am I supposed to know who this is? She is kind of pig-faced and fat in my opinion.

>>7760166
She's just generally a piece of shit, but most recently there was some drama about her inability to separate her fetishes from lolita. She's a cam girl and had a whole tumblr full of nudes and gifs before she bawwleeted it and claimed a "client" asked her to take it down.

>>7760166
She's a two-faced opportunist turd that ignores everybody who doesn't have rewards for her.

She runs a blog that she payed to get publicity for. She's also a fetish cam girl like >>7760173
mentioned.

>>7760173
Jesus, that's disgusting. Bet somebody called her a whore a few too many times, kek.

Isn't that one chic that was in the San Japan tea party coord contest with the super flowery pieces on a plain white jsk a pole dancer? There's a lot of people like that in lolita annoyingly enough.

>>7760200
This secret was posted July 5th. She now has over 5,600 Likes that she purchased on this page and still struggles to get more than 10 Likes on a post unless she shares it to CoF lol

>>7760214
Not her but I saw her giveaway on tumblr.
Her likes could have came from her giveaway, just like how Kate got a shit-ton of likes from hers.
Although in the end it's not much better than buying likes I guess.

>>7760145
soooo how is it she can show her face at any event ever?

>>7760223
Even if a bunch of them were from the giveaway, she'd be getting more exposure on people's feeds and therefore more Likes on the unshared posts. Many of her posts are in the single digits as far as Likes go and comments are very few and far between.

>>7760237
I don't know.

Most girls get a ton of shit just for wearing lolita. She's got some Dakota-tier anti-shit shield.

I got backlash for wearing too much makeup the other day. She gets nothing. Wtf. Why is good fortune handed out so unfairly?

>>7760263
People on here call her out for it all the time, but most people try to avoid criticising people irl.

>>7760272
I'm upset.

>>7760263
You've got it wrong, anon. Feel free to cruise the archive for the terms "lapinchocolat", "cutecollar", and "thecreepyhime", she gets a ton of shit for her greasy-looking makeup, bad shoop, and paying for her brand by sticking things in her cooter. There were several secrets made about her at the beginning of last month, all of which were hateful. She just makes dumb passive-aggressive posts about how much she loves all of the attention (confirming that it actually bothers her a lot). She's actually got Dakota's shitty drama-mongering attitude towards the negative attention, not an anti-shit shield.

>>7760278
Oh, okay.

Well, then, this means causes have effects, and when causes have effects, then balance in the universe has been restored.

>>7760278
Anyone have those still? Not so much wanting to see her naked, more interested in maybe sending them to her parents or something of the like.

>>7760319
That's really shitty of you, anon. Unless you're the child she bragged about spitting on in one of Lilith's videos, you really have no reason to spite her in that way.

>>7760319
Woah, that's... well, dang.

You are evil. I kinda like it. I must be evil, too.

>>7760327
She wasn't 18 when she posted it, it is illegal and it is disgusting and she should stop.

>>7758156
Is it cfls? Because christ almighty I was about to make that same post.

If that one girl Mari makes another damn post looking for a cheap seamstress I'm going to lose my shit. She obviously burned her bridges with every seamstress in the comm, considering none of them posted to her last comment. Thankfully our mods are way more mature than I am.

In case anyone's in the mood to cringe a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUNje2YSN94

>>7760353
Oh my god her snorting at 3:30

>>7760278
cutecollar is gone anon, give us a sauce on those pics
i need a good fap

>>7760353
holy shit that fucking snort
there's like no build-up of laughter, it's just SNORT SNORT SNORT

>>7760362
Obviously, see >>7760173. And no. You will be sorely disappointed, her nipples are literally as large, dark, and dimpled as oreos.

>>7760353
"I work in sales and I have no idea how I'm not fired yet lololol"

Me neither, dude. What a fucking bitch.

>>7759174
No, because nobody who actually donated cash was willing to go to the police. A girl who didn't donate got the information people would need to file reports and people were either too scared or embarassed or lazy to bother. So she got away with it.

>>7760173
Oh I thought it was that the company bling it on or whatever told her to delete her tumblr.

>>7760355
snorts confirmed at 0.19, 3.28, 5.25 , 7.42, 12.23 , 12.40
some wierd mmm noise at 4.55
pretends to be a cat 6.39

>>7760173
give us the pics

>>7760367
don't care. Pics or gtfo for real.

>>7760391
>>7760393
Look in the fucking archive, jesus christ. And if you don't know how to navigate it (or even where it is), you don't deserve to be disgusted.

>>7759214

>My comm is also very friendly and "drama free," so I feel like I can't even say anything to anyone about it.

And I guess there are people lurking on /cgl/ too right?

I feel the same way about my comm. I would have liked to say something about the leadership, but I'm 99.92% sure I would have ruffled feathers if I brought it up with the rest of the comm.

>>7760395
no i fucking dont 4ch arch or tumblr ?

>>7760400
theres nothin in the archives

>>7760401
Not my problem lol
First of all this is a blue board, second of all posting that shit is pretty much a guarantee to get the thread bawleeted.

>>7760401
if you go on tumblr theres porn under the tag cutecollar

>>7760413
its all gone

>>7760420
you didnt even try anon

>>7760431
oh i have safe search on, im not on tumblr to see this shit

>>7759389
>>7760105

Anon pretty much said what I meant. I'm aware there are comms that are both well dressed AND drama free...but if I had to pick one over the other that's what I'd choose. :)

>>7760438
well no fucking shit retard
>WHERE IS THE PORN I HAVE SAFE SEARCH ON DURR DURR

>>7760352
What about that overly enthusiastic girl who hopped over to the JFash comm? I thought it was hilarious that she felt the need to push her perler shop.

>>7760439
At least if they're badly dressed but have a good attitude, there's a pretty good chance they might be willing to improve. Eventually you can have a pretty well dressed and friendly comm!...if everything goes well.

>>7760263
> just world fallacy

>>7760467
I'm not part of the JFash community, but damn I'm glad she left my feed. How about every other post being "Is this loli?" or chicks saying they want "cosplay lolita," girls asking for coord help with not a single piece to go off of. It used to be cute pictures from meetups... ;_;

It won't last though, it's just been annoying lately.

>>7760931
I've been in the community for a year now and I have to say I welcome the change of pace. It's nice to have the comm regularly updated with new content instead of dead silence between meetup pictures. Hopefully all of this chatter will break the ice and more people will start hosting meetups and actually begin hold to the reins.

Our page looked more like a catalog of our events and it always felt empty...nothing like a community at all. Rarely anyone talking or asking questions. Just pictures from meetups and thats it.

I welcome the newbs. Some of them might be cringe worthy but atleast they aren't shy about talking.

>>7760214
I really doubt she would buy likes. If she likes to free load like you guys say why would she buy likes???

>>7760237
Because she's getting money while you guys are getting nothing but fat sitting on cgl all day c:

>>7760319
I think you just want to look ;)
It's okay anon. Everyone's a little pervy.

>>7760974
>>7760972
>>7760979
Next time you try to whiteknight yourself Jona, try switching up your typing style a bit. It's a dead giveaway. Also you can reply to multiple posts at once, in case you didn't know.

>>7760856
Well, we can hope so. A couple of our members are flat-out lost causes who can't take constructive criticism at all, and I have little hope for the mod as well, but the others I have some hope for!

>>7760988
Not Jona~ But someone else.

>>7760974
So... you're sitting here doing what?

Also
>Implying she isn't fat already

>>7760999
>implying

>>7760237
>>7760145
>>7760118
Another thing that really bothers me about her is how much of a shitty buyer she is. She doesn't leave feedback, requests delayed payments after purchasing the item, doesn't read TOS, etc. I won't sell to her again.

>>7761007
Stuffing my face with donuts and vomiting them out later. You?

>>7760353
that snort

>>7761053
>purging bread

>>7760856
Different anon but oh man I wish. My comm is full of chronic itas who have been in the fashion for at least 2 years or more, yet still think altered thrift store crap and Bodyline separates are the best thing out there. I've tried pointing them to second-hand shops, having sewing meets and even tried to organize a comm Taobao group order but they seem content so sit around in their own ~lolified~ shit. They're all lovely people but they have NO sense of style and think that dressing like the other lolitas they see online is truly impossible for them so there's no reason to try. They keep telling me how 'lucky' I am for owning second-hand brand and being able to sew my own clothes.

There have been some girls who managed to improve but they promptly got the fuck out and started attending other comm's meetups or went solo. I'm on the brink of giving up and going solo myself, I don't know why I've been trying for so long.

>>7761084
Aww that sucks, anon. Where are you from? If it's some country where the postal service is awful then it's no wonder some of the itas in your comm are afraid to try improve.

>>7761084
If it makes you feel any better, one of the admins for my comm, who I'm pretty sure has been in the fashion for quite some time, doesn't know how to order from most brands, doesn't know the general quality of various stores (and can't be arsed to google them or read LJ, apparently), etc.
Even if you make most of your own clothing, you should know how to do these things if you're an admin, imo.

>>7760999
I know your dad's name and where you live Jona prepare for a mother fucking tornado you disgusting cunt.

>>7761098
As you are on an anonymous board, I doubt you'll do anything.

>>7761091
Our postal service is fine but customs can get pretty nasty. I don't think that's what's holding them back, though, since all of them have at least some Bodyline pieces that they bought straight from the website. IMO if you can afford to buy a bunch of Bodyline stuff (and then complain about how it's inferior to brand and doesn't make you tumblr famous like those 'lucky' girls) you can save up for better options. Or at least buy the Bodyline stuff that isn't fugly.
I guess I'm just fed up with them having no taste. If I could fly the lot of them over to Japan and dump them in LaForet with an unlimited budget they'd probably still end up with horrible incohesive wardrobes because they just don't know wtf they're doing. They can't dress themselves outside of lolita either.

TL;DR a badly dressed but friendly comm is nice and all but it gets old after a few years without improvement.

>>7761093
Ouch. Is she a good admin otherwise? I'd think that someone who can't be bothered to google basic information probably isn't going to put in the effort needed to properly admin a comm, either.

>>7760319
You're really no better than her

>>7760438
What are you? 12?

>>7760118
I'm not sure how related this is, but one of the girls who works for GLW has been trying to add herself into my community twice. We are thousands of miles away from Texas, and with this drama going on, none of us want to get involved. Has she or anyone else working for GLW trying to add themselves into other regional communities?

>>7761320
Tbf, our comm doesn't require a whole lot of attention since it's small and there are multiple admins, but I still don't understand how one can be a part of the fashion for so long without knowing really basic information (or at least where to find it).

>>7761320
Wait do people really think that owning brand makes people tumblr famous? If that were true me and half my comm would be tumblr famous.

We don't really post ourselfs online unless its something we really really like, and even then none of us really get much more the 100 for our best coords.
>most popular post has 160notes and p sure it's only because it was Iron Gate.

At least In my experience, to be e-famouse, you have to give enough of a shit to constantly put yourself out there. So all I can think now is a comm full of bodyline itas promoting themselves and spamming the fuck out of tumblr trying to get noticed.

>>7760353
This video was the nail in the coffin. I thought she was a photoshop disaster before, but learning shes also a whore and she snorts like a pig has led me to genuinely hate her.

>>7760353
Wow. Yeah, some people should avoid tea length dresses.

>>7760145
Jona photoshops the heck out of every picture she posts online, to the point where I almost didn't recognize her. The fact that she has been wearing the same dress in her last 5 coords though, reminded me that it has to be her. lul

>>7761043
Shitty buyer? Try a shittier seller, makes up excuses on not shipping items. I've heard of her taking a freaking month to ship items, each time coming up with an excuse, offers discounts and refunds and then never delivers it. Never buy from her.
Talk about scamming and scalping. She's one to be super weary of.

>>7761781
Yeah, I didn't recognize her in person at first either and I wanted to believe that she's just gained a lot of weight recently, but then I saw some older photos of her that other people have taken and that's really just how heavy she's been all along. That awful contouring also makes her look super greasy as if she's been sweating like a hog too.
And even if it's her ~*favorite*~ piece in her wardrobe, she's been wearing it too much and I'll be she hasn't had it cleaned in that time either. That, on top of the fact that she can't coordinate it for shit, just makes her look really gross and sad.

>>7761800
but she is e-famu~
She doesn't need to make good coords, because she has "sponsors" and has 5k+ fans on fb.
She is higher then us~

>>7761810
2 e-fame 4 me

I'll never get over the dissonance between her like count and the activity on her facebook page though
sometimes I go to her page just to look at it and laugh

>>7761797
THIS.
I bought from her once and it took almost four months to receive my item because of various excuses. Not gonna go into detail because I don't want her to get in my face about it, but trust me I will definitely never buy from her again. She wasn't particularly shitty about it during the process and the item arrived in good condition, but still.

>>7761819
you're one of the lucky ones if your item arrived in good conditions. Crusty socks and dresses smelling like pot are some of the nicer things I've heard about her previous items.

>>7761827
Oh god, does this girl have any redeeming qualities at all?? Jesus christ

>>7760438
>I'm not on tumblr to see this shit but I am using tumblr to see this shit regardless.

>>7760353
They both seem so immature and bitchy. How old is Jona, anyhow? Lillith is only 18, right?

>>7761827
Gross. The dress I bought from her smelled like feet, but at least it shipped fast and washed out ok.

>>7761835
I think they're both 19 iirc

>>7760353

Honestly I am way more fucking bothered with what she did with her tea than anything else. Had to stop watching because of that.

>omg she put like 12 sugar cubes in her tea and a bottle of honey

No.

>>7761869
she thinks by acting obnoxious and pouring as much sugar as the tea can handle it makes her a "true" sweet lolita.

bleck. no wonder she is a fatty-chan

>>7761883

Ooor maybe she just really likes sweet things. Thats a thought.

>>7761910
Ooor maybe she has the palette of a 5 year old and needs to grow the fuck up.

>bitch moves to our comm
>bitch makes no effort to introduce herself or comes to meets
>bitch complains on btb about how we are all elitist and dont have meets once a month like her old comm
its called effort, fucking do it or forever be alone

>>7760237
tbh she actually looks really cute here. Too bad she has a shitty personality.

>>7760319
Why would you do that? Don't stoop down to her level jfc

>>7761913
seriously

>>7761913

>implying palette has anything to do with actual maturity

gtfo

>>7761966
It does when it comes to things like sugar. If you don't have the self-control to say 'no, I don't need this much', it's absolutely an issue of maturity. Sugar isn't a bad thing in moderation obviously, but she's adding so much to her tea that people around her take notice and that's not healthy at all.

>>7761983

But on the flip side, Lilith apparently eats enough salt for people to take notice and you can't justify your bitching by saying that she's trying to fit the bill of a gothic lolita because that shit doesn't make any sense. And self control has nothing to do with maturity when the topic in question is personal taste. Some people prefer bitter drinks, some like them to be so-so whereas others like this Jona chick apparently like them to be disgustingly sweet and thick. If I like to eat my vegetables with hot sauce slathered all over them then by all that is holy I'm going to pour as much hot sauce as I want on them because thats what I like.

>>7761996
We weren't talking about Lilith, but if you want to that's fine. Unless they both have very severe deficiencies, there's no excuse for overusing either sugar or salt and enjoying either one in excess is an acquired taste. Both are very bad for your health in large amounts and just because you like them doesn't mean it's healthy or natural for you to consume so much. I know a child who eats glue because he "likes the way it tastes", but that doesn't mean it's okay for him to eat it.

>>7761983
that's palate, not palette...

>>7762017
Shit, you're right. Sorry, I'm on my phone.

>>7761840
Jona is 19??? Why does she sound like a 40 year old woman who's been smoking for a good 20 years of her life

>>7762102
God, her blog layout is so fucking stupid.

Also lol'd because while searching for this I saw that she recommended lolita-tips as a good resource for newbie lolitas.

>>7755514
I'm sick of my comm not putting any effort in when it comes to meets. Heaven forbid anyone wants to do something nice that may cost more than $40.

I just want a beautiful quality meet somewhere nice that isn't a place I can go get dinner or lunch at any other day.

>>7762679
My comm is the same way. I try my best to organize high teas, wine tasting and other interesting meetup ideas but they just want to sit at cafes every single time and never want to spend $20>. It is so boring.

Our comm got it's first lolcow.

First she made a big dramatic IM LEAVING LOLITA GUYSZZZZZ thing where her crew of 'lolita is so bitchy even though I just post drama all day' girls were 'oh no why~~~ please thing about it please', where she played the PERSONAL REASONS CARD. Sometime after she made a giant post detailing her personal reasons, some bullshit sob story about a friend overseas being sick she needs to see and needs two thousand dollars. Same dumb ass crew of girls going, 'omg so sorry why didnt u tell me ;( ;( ;(' where its just met by 'ummm duhhh because its a personal reason??!?!??!'.

So thus begins the great lolita sale, selling plus size replicas for over a hundred dollars. Yeah right like that's getting you anywhere. Now she is melting posting screen caps of someone saying that 'well you have been in the comm for ten yrs and still don't know what you are doing and you are old and have no job and live at home and just buy clothes that won't fit you and you don't wear like c'mon don't just melt all over facebook about your lolita comm' complaining about bullying and harrasement and how she will HUNT THEM DOWN and how they are 'trolling'. I don't even.

Obviously the girl is a really overweight ita that can't dress because who else makes such a big deal out of lolita.

>>7760353
I kind of want girl on the left's teacup hat thing. Anyone have a sauce on it?

>>7762698
Anon how much are high teas?

>>7763406
High teas at the closest tea house near me is $25/person. Another local place (in a historic home turned mini-museum, slightly fancier food) charges $35-40.

>>7763137
You sound new.
Anyway, Lilith made it herself.

>>7755514
Recent dramu in my group and I used to like dis gurl buuuut she keep boastin on her statuses about how everyone is coming to her for advice. Like it ok to make 1 status but 20 of the same status is soooooo annoying and fake. Talk about attention whore and I want unfriend her but we are such a small group she will notice and make bitchy status post.

>>7760201
I think you've gotten her mistaken. She works in retail.

>>7760201
You very definitely have her confused with somebody else.

>>7760385
There was only one person who had proof that she had donated to cancer chan and she refused to go to the police because the mods had approached her to do so before she had any actual proof and so she never believed the proof she ended up getting

>>7763423
Thanks you anon. I want to plan out nice fancy high tea, like banquet room sized at a 4 star hotel with activities w/ special guest, and with a lot of sponsorships and budget. I can get it done but local girls at my comm don't want put in the money or effort yet they want this sort event. They think it's so easy to plan this sort of thing out but I might just lower the standards and do regular high tea at a teahouse for them. Do you feel me anon? Why can't these girls understand the process of making this sort of event I would need the whole support from the community? So much effort putting into this for bitches to get bitched at. Sorry just wanted to vent.

>>7763825
Do you have enough people for that? My comm is pitifully small, so that sort of thing would never float.
You would need a committee of at least a few people to do what you want to do, so don't even try to do it alone.

>>7763704
It's the mod's fault as usual.

>>7763857
Yeah at least a good 400 members.
That's the thing I'm trying to organize a committee but no volunteers yet they want it and that's unreasonably unrealistic.

>>7763878
How many show up to meet ups regularly, though? My community has ~240 "members," but we're lucky to get 25 people at a big event.

>>7763671
>>7763687
I think that person is talking about another person, not confusing them with Jona. They're lamenting that there's quite a few girls in lolita who also do sex related stuff on the side.

>>7763897
Biggest meet was ~50 people

>>7763913
Anon #2, and I'm saying she's confusing the girl in white with someone else, not Jona.

The comm in my country is very quiet and there isn't much drama. Lately there seems to be some tension between two girls in particular so things might change. The comm is really mediocre and uninteresting, but there are a few good dressers.

Maybe this isnt the best thread but its been an interesting read.

I've wanted to get into Lolita for a long time and have the money for it but was a bit disheartened seeing the dresses in person: I would need SO MUCH TAILORING to get them to fit me! Somehow I thought them being Japanese brands (and I was looking at well respected brands) meant that they'd be significantly smaller than they actually were.

I worry that I'd go to all the trouble of buying the dress and accessories and getting them altered and then showing up to a meet and not enjoying the community.

>>7764702
Most dresses, blouses, and skirts have elastic, shirring, corset lacing, or waist ties to make sure it fits most people anon. I'm 30"-24"-29" and my stuff fits me just fine. $300+ one-size-fits-all dresses are going to have some options for versatility, it's just a given.

>>7763955
Anon #1, and yes this. I'm friends with the girl in white with floral, and she has a very basic normalfag retail job. Original anon's got her mixed up.

>>7763825
Maybe I'm paranoid but you sound like my comm's "fallen queen".
If it IS you, then a big part of the reason people don't show up to your events is because everyone is sick of you and your attention whoring to the media.

>>7764702
Lolita is a chubbies' fashion in Japan, if you want small sizing go for gyaru. Bring smaller in lolita is about knowing what fits and what can be made to fit, as most brands are one size only - but often have adjustable lacing, elastic shirring and waist ties. I'm 31.5"/25" (hips don't matter) and find that particular brands will go smaller than listed measurements when there is corset lacing/shirring, such as innocent world, meta, and angelic pretty. Gothic brands like Atelier Pierrot often run smaller as well.

Addressing the second worry, you may well be right to worry about if you're expecting instant friendships and easy socialising based on a single shared interest. Lolitas are by no means homogenous personality wise and you may well find that you don't get on that well with anyone in the community. However, you don't need to be part of a community to enjoy the fashion

Can anyone link me to any French comm pages, specifically Lyon if possible? I need friends and drama.

>>7764702
I think a lot more people are open and accepting to altering something to make it smaller rather than someone altering something to make it bigger. You'll occasionally run into people who would be pissed if you altered anything period, as if it's community property or something. But in reality, most people aren't as concerned with what other people do as long as it doesn't directly effect them.

>>7763704
Well that was really stupid of her.

I think people felt stupid because a few people had been saying they didn't buy the story. Once the evidence was out there, they looked like idiots for defending her.

>>7763876
When in doubt, blame the mods.

>>7761367
Someone from GLW tried to add herself to my comm, also nowhere near Texas. Mods saw she was a member of a ton of random regional comms and rejected her. Due to past issues with creepers our mods only let in people who wear the fashion (or are seriously interested) and regularly attend meetups.

>>7763876
>>7765578
None of the mods from then are still mods, right?

>>7764010
Which country? Kinda sounds like mine.

>>7765787
Have you been in your comm long?

>>7765787

You say first.

>>7765709
Heather is still a mod even though she shouldn't be.

I do all the shit for my comm. I plan every single event, and they don't even respond. They see the posts, and never show any kind of desire to participate in meets.

I have planned a meet every month and they have shown up to one. The rest is just me, another girl and sometimes two others. Christ.

>>7760960
>people will start hosting meetups and actually begin hold to the reins.

From the looks of it, it's just going to be girls complaining about the distance from their house to the meet and doing nothing in the way of organizing a carpool. I don't know, I'd prefer if updates were kept to "let's find accessories together" and meet photos rather than this weeb shit.

I hope more people host meets though. I won't have much time until late October, but I think I could drum up some fun before the holidays.

>>7765944
What is this, 2nd grade?

>>7766860

Yes. I'd rather just not get blamed for mentioning my comm on here, they're uptight about this stuff. I think because there's no drama, they're terrified some will start. Plus, there's a lot of newbs who hate /cgl/ in the comm.

>>7767055
But you are anonymous, isn't that the whole point of 4chan? You can complain freely.

>>7766012
Maybe your meets suck?

>>7767120
Not if your comm is small and tight-knit.

>>7767187
If there's no drama, then why are you trying to start some?

>>7767055
If you need to come on here to talk about them then maybe you're better off leaving it. Trying to start drama is pointless.

>>7767187
Clearly the tight knit part doesn't include you.

>>7767236
Hold on, anon, maybe that person isn't trying to start drama.

Maybe they're just venting. It is a bitching thread, after all. Not specifically a drama general.

>>7767187
I'm glad my comm has a high number of cgl users, and we're all very casual about it. I honestly think it keeps the drama down, being so open and honest about the wank communities.

>>7767236
>>7767251
You can vent without starting drama.

>>7767120
>>7767236
>>7767253

I'm not trying to start drama, this is a comm thread. If you have problems with people mentioning their comm, without even naming the comm, maybe stay out of the comm thread. I'm not even starting drama, I'm making vague observations.

>>7763825
#glutenfree?

>>7767358
But by posting it on cgl you are starting drama.

>>7767419
No she isn't. She's not starting drama by venting about her comm in a thread made specifically for comm bitching.

Drama doesn't start until you name and shame or post pics. You can't start shit if you don't call people out.

>>7767455
Seems to me that anon up there is well aware that there are a lot of her comm lurking here. Also the fact that she seems to be trying SUPER DUPER HARD to dredge up something to "bitch" about suggests that she's a bit poisonous herself. So just my impression, it's like she's doing her best to stir drama in a peaceful comm under the watch of the other members.
It is literally the CGL equivalent of "not touching, can't get mad~"

>>7765944
Okay, fine fuck it. Ireland. Now you.

>>7767507

Yeah, we're in the same comm.

>>7767512
Oh yeah? Lol. Did I meet you at the picnic meetup?

>>7767493
>"not touching, can't get mad~"
I'm not even in your drama, but if you're going to use a lame analogy atleast don't butcher it to the point of nonsense.

>>7767493
>I know what anon is talking about because I'm in the same comm
>She must have done it on purpose on the off chance someone else in the comm was here
>She's causing dramu in a thread about venting your dramu, how dare she do such a thing!

>>7767523
>>7767528
Just an observation, jesus I'm just here to read some actual drama, same as you. Post something juicy or gtfo.

>>7767523
Well they weren't WRONG

>>7764010
Tension?

>>7767512
Are you long in the comm anon? If so, why wait so long to say something if you're unhappy? Why suddenly now?

>>7767130
In that case, they should tell me what a good meetup would be. But they don't.

>>7760145
FUCK
FUCK FUCK FUCK
Can someone tell me how old she is please because I am 99% sure she's my boyfriend's cousin that his mom wants me to be friends with. Location and name match up, I've never met her though so not that familiar with how she looks. I had no idea she was so drama-ridden.

>>7761840
>>7768702
....well shit yep thats her.

>>7768702
HAHAHA sucks to be you, anon. From everything I've seen, I'd suggest avoiding at all costs for your own sake. I'd post her nudes to revolt you but you know, blue board. Just know that they're out there, and that her nips are hideous. The blog and links are gone, but if you browse the rebeccablacktech cgl archive for "cutecollar" (or even "lapinchocolat") you'll see everyone else's reactions to them and that's almost as good.

>>7768702
>>7768705
Does your boyfriend even know? I mean, does he have any idea??
I can't imagine what it would be like to have someone like her in my family.

>>7761053
>being this disgusting

>>7761053
>look guise i have an eating disorder baww
>purging bread
Great you're a faggot AND a retard

>inb4 lol i was just joking ur retarded XD

>>7768836
Also stuffing yourself then purging make you bloated/fatter. Not really smart.

>>7768836
Not them, but what's the deal with purging bread?

>>7768838
Some foods just don't come back up right because of how they change when you chew, swallow and the amt of time they spend in your stomach. Trying to purge chocolate or bread only happens once unless you're a moron.

>>7768843
This so much
And that's why bawwdisorder-chan is a complete idiot

The best to do when you eat junk food is eat a bit of it but very slowly,appreciate the taste,chew until there's nothing less to chew,then swallow and take another bite,and drink a glass of water before it too,you'll get fuller this way and you will not feel as frustrated.
My brother has a birthday in two days and there will be fucking cake and since i'm 120 disgusting lbs i will do so (and eat nothing the rest of the day and work out to burn it)

>>7762679
The girls in my comm never really show up to meets posted on the comm page. However, they did show up to a more expensive meet when reservations were made at whatnot. Hoping they want to do a more decadent meet for later in the year. Getting dressed up all fancy and spending money is fun. And in moderation, the girls in your comm should be able to afford it. Maybe once a month or bymonthly expensive meets and less expensive meets throughout the month or once a month.

>>7768737
He knew she was into lolita but not really all this. According to him, she tells her family she gets all her lolita through her successful fashion design business and sponsorships. So yeah. Her parents are going to find out right about.....now.

>>7769124
Can you guys post some non-nude /cgl/ safe pics of her doing this stuff by the way? Camwhoring etc? Again, non-nude. Just enough that its obvious she's doing this. Need to send to her dad.

>>7769102
I'm part of a fairly inactive comm and am one of the less active members. For me, it's not really worth it to get frilled up and drive for 1-2 hours just to sit at someone's house for tea or walk through a mediocre park, especially when I can do (and do do) those things in much nicer areas for less just on my own or with my normalfag friends.
Fancier or more elaborate meet ups are the only ones worth it to me, and the fact that there's usually a slightly better (or at least more reliable) turnout is nice, too.
I'd much rather have a very nice meet up once a month or once every two months than multiple mediocre meet ups every month.

>>7769127
>Non-nude /cgl/ safe pics of her doing this stuff

There are none of those.

>>7769127
>tumblr.com/tagged/cutecollar
Turn safe search off obviously.

>>7769131
Ok so on the archives there's some quotes from her blog talking about her "master" and asking for money/gifts/dresses for nudes, drug use, etc. Can anyone give me quotes or screenshots?

>>7769167
So we can help her parents help and look after their daughter?

Hmmm, I can't save any bad images myself since this computer is shared, but follow this anon's advice. >>7769138

That should get you results.

>>7769188
There's only one image set there. We're mostly concerned because as I said, she's lying about where the money is coming from and claiming she's getting money through her personal company. Her parents think she's making a career out of lolita fashion. Her mother is a nurse working 3 jobs and paying for everything (other than what Jona is apparently making through camwhoring). We're talking it over with bf's parents right now and they're gonna figure out what to tell Jona's parents. If she's into drug use and apparent dangerous stuff (one of the quotes in the archives is about bdsm mixed with drugs which is fucking dangerous as shit) then yeah we feel obligated to tell them.

In my country, we only have one established Lolita comm. There is two kinds of Lolitas here: either you are with THE COMM or you are out. I tried going with the comm when I first started Lolita, but soon realized it's filled with itas and weeaboos, and the Leader was a quee bee type girl who only wanted control over... everything and everyone. I started stepping back, almost left Lolita.
Now I'm back. When I started to show up on mets and stuff, THE COMM were pretty mean to me. I started hanging out with other "loner" Lolitas who were also rejected by THE COMM, probably because they actually dressed better and were labeled as "Elitists".
We are now a small group. We dress and behave better than the COMM. We make much better coords, know much more about the fashion, and invest much more in it, hence owning more brand (almost noone here owns brand) and having fuller closets.
We show up on meets but they tend to be mean to us, though we were always educated towards everyone.
Things were pretty calm, but we started to dream about better meetups. THE COMM always made boring meetups, poor and sloppy coords, eating cheap cookies and drinking soda from plastic cups. We wanted to organize pretty and detailed events with themes and awesome coords and Such, but none of my friends had the gust to step up and organize something, because THE COMM ruled. So one fine day I decided I'd try and open a new forum for everyone: my small group of friends, the Loner Lolis and THE COMM. The Loner Lolis and my friends were thrilled, but THE COMM was utterly mad. They started spreding rumors about me. One day things with them got too far. I decided yo close the group and step back. Now, they have won. They tell everyone I'm an etilitst bitch, I'm self entitled and inmature. All I have left is my small group of friends. I feel very sad they had to "win", and I'm very bitter about the nasty rumors because I have never been rude or mean to any of them.
Phew, that felt good.Thanks for reading

>>7769124
Looool what fashion design business? Can this girl lie about anything else?

>>7769127
I have several gifs and stills, some don't technically show anything but it's obvious what she's doing, I'll post one or two when i get home. Otherwise, I'll make a burn email and send you everything I have, if that helps.

>>7769308
what country?

>>7769312
Yeah, I've been hearing about it for over a year now. It was really confusing why everyone was talking about her fetish stuff and no mention at all of her supposed brand. Does she make/sell anything at all? She's been claiming that she's got sponsorships and is making a career out of it and her entire family thinks its her life's work. Its one of the main reasons we decided to interject here.

>>7769318
We've found quite a few now (bf has a gift for googling), but if you want to post them sure. I'll make a throwaway too for this. I imagine some people will bitch at me for all this, but fuck that, its a family matter now. If I was a random thats one thing, but this is someone who tells these lies to the family I've been living with and quite possibly done her shit in my house fifteen feet from where I'm sitting.

>>7769353
Shitstorm's a-brewin'.

Cutecollar is my cousin, and I really didn't want to tell on her because she's an adult, and what she does in regards to her sexuality should be her business. The only reason I decided to tell everyone is because I feel bad for my aunt. She honestly believes that all this lolita stuff will be Jona's career. That's why my aunt is super supportive. She thinks that Jona is making her money through reviews, blogs, sponsorships, etc.

Jona's a nice girl, very quiet and sweet. It's kinda shocking to me that she's known as a rude person in this community.

>>7769420
>>7769353
I realize I probably sound retarded but are you replying to yourself or are there two people related to her that happened upon this? I'm just confused...

>>7769127
While I know it's totally uncool of her to lie to her parents, it also seems really uncool of you to "out" her to her parents. If she wants to cam to make money, that's her business. Is she taking advantage of her parents in some way?

>>7769455
The first couple of posts seems to be coming from Jona's cousin's gf and the last post said they were her cousin so I'm assuming that's anon's bf.
I secretly kind of hope it's a different cousin and the entire family will be posting here before long but that's not very likely.

>>7769456
It's "uncool", and I honestly feel bad about it, but Jona has told her parents that her Lolita business/thing/whatever is her career, and she's making good money with it. But her mother still pays for everything, she still live at home, and Jona's mother is sending her to the Art Institute of Houston for their fashion design program.

Mind you, Jona's mom (my aunt), is a nurse who works 2 full time job. She's working herself to death, monetarily supporting the hobby of her daughter, because she thinks this will be Jona's career.

But if Jona's making money because of her cooter....I think my aunt deserves to know.

>>7769456
As said, she lives with her parents. Her parents pay for her to live with them. They pay for her food. They think she is going to fashion design school and will be self-sufficient on her fashion design skills. Her parents work a lot to take care of her and her family. So yes she is taking advantage of them. If she wants to live her life this way, she can, if she pays for her own living costs and not just buying dresses. But not while living on her parent's money.

>>7769467
You're correct. >>7769420 is Jona's cousin, I am his girlfriend.

>>7769455 here, thanks for the explanation.

Honestly I don't blame you for telling on her given the situation. I'd be mortified if someone in my family found out about my "porn tumblr" but I also
a) don't openly post my face and keep all my NSFW stuff under a separate online identity so things can't get tracked back to me
b) don't have a reputation in my comm so that people have a reason to find dirt on me
c) support myself with a full time job and don't rely on family to pay for anything.

>>7769196
Let us know how it goes cousin anon, /cgl/ cares very deeply on this matter.
She has made herself an outcast through her behavior, and hopefully with an intrvention will be a better community member.

Also please let him take away her $400 dresses and stuff, she really has to remove herself to grow better as a person.

My comm wants fancy events, but then bitches about the price to have them. Entitled fucks.

>>7769327
Peru

>>7769471
Jona hasn't been camming for some time, though. And she legitimately has sponsors; Bling Up sponsors her and I think she said something about someone else sponsoring her page. She also works for a lot of her money in retail. Her wardrobe is bought and sold frequently so that it's not a big financial drain, it just rotates.

Before you go to her parents and quite possibly do a lot of damage to this poor girl, please consider everything. Lolita isn't a career, but she is at least working hard. She's done bad things, but she's not worth this wrath.

>>7769559
Like anon would ever consider that

I bet this chick just wants to see her burn

>>7769471
Before you do that why don't you both go ask Jona yourselves and get a clear explanation from her and if she starts shit then lol tell on her.

I know her irl and I've seen her at her workplace so she does work for those dresses and most of the time she just beys and resales them.
The only way I can see her making this into a career is if she becomes a designer other than that its a hobby. Her sponsor is Blingup go google their company.

Just wanted to let you both get your facts straight before jumping the gun.

>>7769559
- a lot of money in retail

lol o u

>>7769559
She worked at bling up's booth for anime matsuri, that's not the same as having a sponsor supposting her made-up brand. She's still clearly lying to her family, and doing so in a really obvious way by linking her porn to her real name etc.

>>7769615
>>7769559
>>7769611
hi Jona

>>7769626

>>7769621
That's not all she does for them.

Her porn was clearly not her best choice, but that's not something anyone needs to tell her family about unless it harms her or them. She's an adult.

>>7769559
Maybe you should get your facts straight first. The last post on cutecollar is from July 15. A month ago she was still actively looking for sugar daddies. That doesnt give a lot of time to reform her ways, anon.

>>7769615
If you know her irl, then you must know how strict her parents are, especially her dad. Contacting her via email, phone, or even FB, (the email, and FB that the family knows about, not her secret ones) are all monitored by her dad. This is part of the reason why it's so mind boggling why she'd start camwhoring in the first place, since her dad is online all the time, and would end up finding about this sooner or later. Hell, I found out about it.

>>7769630
>She's an adult

>>7769630
Her family is housing and feeding her, and I bet that she was camming in their house, so yeah, it's kind of their business.
If I found out my cousin was doing this, I'd sure as hell tell my aunt.

>>7769640
She also only got rid of that because anons here found out about it.

She knows whats going down (if she hasn't made a post on here already)
http://thecreepyhime.tumblr.com/post/95307385029/temporary-hiatus
Gomen honey, you shouldn't be a leech off your parents if you're making money the whore way

>>7769687
ooh, shit's about to go down.
I almost feel bad for her, but her shitty attitude kind of defers it.

>>7769626
sorry try again.

>>7769641
Its not THAT mind boggling you said it yourself she's under strict parents. Not saying for everyone but people who have been controlled by their parents all their life for every singe thing will want the urge to do something reckless as to escape from their strict lifestyle.

>>7769687
top kek

cousin anon, feed us!

>>7769559
Jona didn't work at Bling Up's Booth at AM, It was some other con. Bling up doesn't sponsor her anymore then they sponsor Hoot. All they do is send a few free products for them to use in pictures, thats it.

>>7769875
Well it's out of the bag now. I don't want to ruin my cousin's life, but her parents has to know what's going on under their roof, especially if they are still supporting her.

Especially since my aunt is working her ass off to make sure Jona will have a good future in front of her. Jona didn't want to study pharmacy tech, and was adamant about the fashion design school. My aunt and uncle finally relented, because they honestly think Jona has a bright future in the Lolita/fashion industry, solely based on what Jona herself has told them.

They deserve to know that she's getting money from other means, like giving sex shows to people for money/dresses.

>>7769641
I wonder how long she's been at it, a few months ago on cutecollar she said that she was going to start camming -again-, I wonder how long her hiatus was before considering the fact that she's not very old and she might've been doing this as a minor and could be facing child pornography charges.

>>7770020
Don't forget to mention the part where she's buying thousands of likes on her Facebook page, if she's using that to convince her parents she's ~internet popular~ then that would be another lie they deserve to know about.

>>7769188
holy shit someone please send them the nudes

>>7769895
this
Kate (hoot) only gets paid a percentage commission when she is referenced when people buy things from bling up, it doesn't pay a lot at all

>>7770084
I can't see how anyone could possibly be so dense as to think she's not buying likes on her page, for fucks sake it went from 300 to like 3000 in three days. All you need to do is look at the posts to see that they only get like 20 likes or less, leeeel

>>7765693
Weird. I'm admin of my comm and they tried to add themselves to our page too. I rejected because they are literally on the other side of the country and it seemed odd.

>>7770109
Well that sort of thing is pretty obvious to most of us (except for the white knights who tried to chalk it up to the "popularity" of her giveaway lel) but her parents trusted her so they wouldn't have a reason to really look that hard for evidence that would contradict what she says.

>>7770109
It was 300 to 1500 in three days. Don't exaggerate it, the reality is bad enough.

$20 says Jona never even picked a giveaway winner and kept everything. Knowing her it's not very farfetched.

>>7770162
I'll bet you $50 you're right.

>>7770168
$100

>>7770162
Not like she can give anything away now since her overbearing parents are going to ground her for all eternity.

>>7770020
LOL it's really not my problem if you tell her parents or not I just wanted you to think carefully about it. But just so you know you are going to ruin her life and she will probably never forgive you for it so please post here when you do I want to see the drama.

There is some sick shit going down in these comm threads, most of you need to fuck off right here and now. There is a huge difference between general wank and singling out people to ruin their lives, even if you think they deserve it thats still not cool.

>>7770239
Her parents deserve to know that they're being taken advantage of by their lying brat of a daughter. End of story.

>>7770215
We told them about three hours ago. Total silence as of right now.

Also I get the impression you think we are the same age group as her. Theres a considerable age gap.

>>7770245
I don't and does it really matter?

>>7769471
It seems like there's two facets to your concern. (1) That Jona is being supported by her hard-working mother because her mother thinks she's making money in something that will lead to a long-term career, and
(2) That she's making money "because of her cooter"

#1 is totally reasonable. I get that. But #2 is just absurd, it's not a way I'd like to make money, but there's nothing inherently immoral about it and it's her choice.

Let's say the situation were changed: Jona is telling her mom she's getting her money from her fashion business, and her mom thinks it will lead to something bigger and better, so she supports her. But actually, Jona is making her money washing dishes at a diner (or some other dead-end job that won't go anywhere, so it's on the same career-progression level as camming). Would you still feel impelled to intervene and tell her mom that she isn't making money the way she says?

If you really honestly believe you'd do the same in that situation, then you have grounds to go to her mom and let her know what's going on. But if you feel this situation is different, then you might want to question whether your desire to go to her mother is to tell the truth/benefit her mother ultimately, or because you have underlying belief that making money through sex isn't acceptable and just want to "out" her for something you look down on. The insistence on sending photograph evidence makes it seems like your goal is to shame her and not just to protect her mom.

>>7770245
>>7770267

Actually, never mind, looks like you already went ahead with it.

>>7770245
Good job cousin anon
Let us know what happens.

>>7770244

And who gives you the right to tell them? No one. You're taking it upon yourself to ruin this girls life for absolutely no reason other then vendetta.

>inb4 vendetta over Jona? kek

You don't have to be actively jealous over someone to have a vendetta and your behavior is 100% indicative of vendetta so don't even try to argue it. Your intent is to shame her and likely cause her to leave lolita for ever, this isn't just about 'she's taking advantage of my aunt!' because no one in their right mind would go to these lengths over something that doesn't even involve them, there is either some kind of grudge here or you're simply trying to one up her but either way, an attack THIS personal is never cool. You're acting like straight up trash as these threads often encourage and you might as well be making money off showing your snatch online given how classless you're being.

>>7770300
Dude working 2 jobs to support your family is no joke but Jona is basically backstabbing her while doing stuff on the side and lying to her mom. I'm pretty surprised that some of the HLC lolitas consider her a good friend but don't seem to know about her camwhoring?

>>7769510>take away her $400 dresses!!1
Jelly vandetta-chan detected

>>7770300
This. Thirsty drama whores need to stop doing this bullshit.

>>7770267
Are you the cousin who begged her mother for the brand dress and ended up ripping it because you were to fat? I remember her posting a status about it.

>>7770300
Are you stupid? One of my cousins is also a piece of scum and totally tries to use and abuse my aunt and I warn her about it too. Why would the cousin care more about Jona than his aunt? Why care so much about Jona's life being ruined and not her mother's?

>>7770324>>7770267
Oh sorry anon that was meant for >>7770245

>>7770324
This cousin is a man, learn to read.

>>7770267
Cousin anon here, and to answer your post, I am fairly neutral regarding Jona's camwhoring. She's 19, so who am I to judge what she does with her body?

It's only an issue since she's still 100% supported by her parents, who are fairly conservative. Jona is still living under their roof, totally dependent on them, yet lying to them about her life, and her future.

Jona talking about weed muffins, looking for sugar daddies, sex camming, especially in the same house where her parents live...that is definitely something they would want to know.

As for whether I think camwhoring is morally bad or whatever, I think you've missed my point entirely. It's a huge problem because Jona has basically lied to her parents about her relative success in the Lolita fashion community, with her parents thinking that she would have a secure, successful career in that field.

Jona's family isn't rich. Her mother works extremely hard to provide her family. She works extremely hard, to send Jona to school, thinking that the fashion design is jona's way to success.

Maybe it will, but most likely it won't. But Jona was showing the money and dresses she got from camwhoring to her parents as proof that their hard-earned money is well-spent.

Keep us updated on what happens, cousin anon.

>>7770339
She must not be 100% dependent if she is making money flashing her snatch.

You can say that you don't think camming is bad and that you're not judging her until you're blue in the face but the fact is you so desperately want to shame her and bring her down shows that you're just another lame dudebro mad that she can use her sexuality to make some extra money.

You're an asshole for tattling on her like a buttmad 9 year old.

>>7770338
brolita

>>7770272
Actually no I haven't. I just told my mother (jona's mother's sister).

She will talk to my aunt soon, but my mother would like to do it over the phone instead of Facebook or email.

Contrary to popular belief, I didn't do this for lulz. The family is trying to find a delicate way to break this to Jona's parents. Her dad would prolly go berserk if he found out about this on his own.

>>7770350
Living under her parents roof means she's dependent on them. If they cut her off and she couldn't survive with out them, she's dependent on them.

I used to cam so spare the lecture about being a strong independent woman who owns her sexuality and don't need no man. I have no problem with what cousin!anon is doing because she's being deceitful to the people supporting her.

Jona needs psychological help. She's self destructive.

>>7770350
Spaeking of buttmad nine year olds, all I'm hearing is

>COUSIN IS BEING A MEANIE FACE
>...No I'm not.
>YEAH YOU ARE
>No. I'm not.
>YES. YOU. ARE.
>No, I'm not, for the last time.
>YEAH HUH
>Shut uuuup.

>>7770367
This.

>>7770350
How am I shaming her when I haven't even saved, or shown the explicit photos to anyone in the family?

Look Jona pisses me off for personal reasons . She is a grade A asshole.

But do you seriously have to keep dragging it on and reporting to CGL? If you told your family. Good for you. But it's no one's business here and no cares.

>>7770350
I don't where you live, but in the real world, if you spend all what you earn on your hobbies and vices, and rely on your parents to provide you with a home, food, clothing, healthcare, and everything else, then you're 100% dependent.

>>7770339

Sooooo what I'm getting from this is that you're mad jelly that Jona is better off then you with both support from her parents and disposable income flowing in with absolutely no hard work on her part. You're upset that she's getting everything she wants all but handed to her while you're struggling, probably working a dead end job or forcing your way through a college course you don't like. You're angered by the fact that she has more freedom and you want to take her down because how dare that bitch make use of whats been given to her while she has it. The support of her parents, her desirable body. She has no right to take advantage of these things! She should suffer the way you do, right? And what better way to do that then to shame her and possibly ostracize her from the entire family.

You can disagree with her methods all you want but unless she was squandering YOUR money or you were ACTUALLY involved in some legitimate way, then you had absolutely no right to butt in. You had no place going to her parents, you had no obligation to do so but your clear joy from outing her is proof that you have some kind of ulterior motive. You did not do this out of the goodness of your heart because you care oh so much about your aunt. You did this because you're a whiny, jealous little bitch boy. You know snitches get stitches right, anon? I hope Jona fucking scalps you for this.

I'm paranoid that everyone in my comm hates me

>>7770350
See, there's a big difference between using your body for money in a positive way and being a skank. There really is, this girl is a trashy whore, not a classy whore. Learn and understand. Just like any profession there's always room for lack of professionalism.

>>7770381
lol this is a Jona thread now......

>>7770339
Your only defense is that she lied and that the money that she is making herself by questionable means is really worth ruining her family's relationship with her as well as her life? I'd hate to be your cousin.

She's their daughter they are supposed to support her by law.

Also how do you know for sure that she wasn't going to be successful? It does't matter now since you ruined it but really how do you know?

>>7770378
Someone should tell Jona what her faggot cousin is doing! Huehuehue

>>7770386
She will find out...

This thread.

>>7770378
You're totally missing his point. Her family works hard to help her succeed and she gets all this money, apparently, and just selfishly uses it even though her parents do everything else for her. It's kind of selfish.

>>7770386
She probably already knows

>>7770385

She's 19, they have absolutely no obligation to support her.

Shit, my parents gave me this shit for talking to my ex and I know I have absolutely no defense even as I'm amounting massive amounts of debt being in school. Their house, their rules, or I can take out loans and live my own life. Which I guess is what I'm sort of doing now.

OP is still an asshole but you are completely wrong.

>>7770378
Don't know about your family dynamics, but my aunt and uncle are bro-tier. My aunt helped raised me when I was a baby, and she's entitled to know what she is paying for. They're good people that deserves to know what's going on with their only daughter that they are still 100% taking care of.

And funny how you mention me struggling financially, because if you've seen how hard Jona's mom has been working for years, you'd probably understand better, instead of bleating about Jona's right to webcam.

>>7770381
you and everyone else

except me...I'm awesome....actually no I am pretty sure everyone hates me too

>>7770385
How will telling her parents ruin her life?

If anything it will help her. Her parents will want to help their daughter change her unhealthy lifestyle.

>>7770398
I wouldn't mind being hated.... I'm ignored and talked over

>>7770404
Hey you would get whole threads dedicated to you!

>>7770400
How do you know her parents are willing to do that instead of disowning her? Not all parents come out as the fairytale stories that you read in books.

>>7770408
lol I don't think so. I really dont have drama or deep dark secrets

>>7770418
They're willing to let her live in the fucking house and send her to one of the most expensive schools in Houston... for an ART degree.

Those are textbook fairy tale parents.

>>7770423
Oh, AND they don't mind her wearing lolita and even support it.
Mom picked up TWO JOBS FOR HER. TWO JOBS.

Fairy tale parents, nigga. FAIRY. TALE. PARENTS.

>>7770400
>How will telling her parents ruin her life
>if anything it will help her
>her parents will want to help their daughter daughter change

I want to fucking smack the shit out of you, son. I don't even know who this Jona girl is and now I'm heated.

>>7770421
It probably doesn't take much if you irritate the right people.

But I know how you feel. People in lolita fashion are either soft spoken and shy or very loud and out there. You just have to find a way to insert your self into the coversations

>>7770430
I'll be picking fights with random popular lolitas for the sake of fame

>>7770397

>Jona's mom made the decision to work her ass off for her family
>Jona's mom made the decision to support her daughter financially

You? You have no part in this. You are not involved in this. You are a third party to this entire situation. You have no right to butt in. I don't know what kind of pro snitch environment you were raised in, but the general rule is that if it doesn't involve you then you keep your nose out of it. And, just to clear, YOU ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THIS.

>>7770430

I'm so glad I clicked with my comm from the outset and made friends. I could call at least two girls from my comm now friends or even good friends. It's too bad one of them is leaving. But all in all, I love meetups which is a huge change for agoraphobic me.

I feel like if you don't click it's really hard to force yourself to go to these group things though. I've been in a lot of groups (I guess like a lot of people, nothing special) and so far there's very few that worked out for me.

>>7770433
No one here is involved.... Only anon cousin and anon cousin's girlfriend.... If she's still here

>>7770427
>>7770423

Yeah, they're also Asian parents though. I wouldn't be surprised if Jona WAS disowned over this.

>>7770439

No. The cousin nor his girlfriend are involved in this. They are not supporting Jona. They are not giving Jona money. They are not feeding Jona's hobby. They have no right to say anything about anything involving Jona because they are not involved. Period.

>>7770423
You only know from what is written on this board but you don't actually know who they are.
>>7770427 mother picked up two jobs to pay bills and to live not all of what she makes go to her.

>>7770437
I clicked with some girls from my comm but some have been drifting away and well it isn't worth the effort I put in if I get nothing back. I've been suicidal lately and I can't find support from them, I feel they're not my friends. But I'm also very insecure and it could all just be my imagination?

cousin anon, if you're still interested in what photos I have, drop me a line.

>>7770440
Lol because all Asian parents fit the YOU BREENG DISHONAH TO BUDDHA, WE CHOP OFF YOUR ARMS AND FEED IT TO DOG THEN EAT SAME DOG FOR DINNAH stereotype, amirite?

Please, they're willing to send her to an art school (instead of forcing her to become a doctor) and support her wearing lolita fashion. They sound really laid back to me. I really doubt they'll disown her.

>>7770450
Oh anon you have made my day

>>7770445

Parents who are supportive of lolita and who support their daughter going to art school honestly sound pretty chill to me. They want their daughter to be happy and to be successful in what she likes, not necessarily what is the most lucrative but in something that they feel she loves doing. In fact, I would call it a little indulgent.

I can't judge on all the facets based on this, but having grown up in a 'strict Asian' household, I can tell you that she's got it good in some aspects.

>>7770450
I don't agree but you really made me chuckle.

>>7770450

I was literally just about to say this. Her parents sound like they're willing to work with her. They're not going to disown her. They're going to try to work with her, judging from how they already are willing to go with her following her dreams.

>>7770457
Even if her dreams involve having sugar daddies for the rest of her life and not have to work.... Like EVER

What is with /cgl/'s obsession with running to tattle to parents? Asherbee, rosaire, Pixyteri, Ginseng tea cat, and now Jona. Grow up and stop acting like elementary school children.

>>7770443
This, exactly. They're acting so high and mighty just because they're members of her family, like it even matters. They don't give a single shit about her or her feelings.
These two need to get a fucking life and quit acting like being her cousin gives them the right to do shit all to her. She's an adult.

>>7770433
But...Jona's mom, my aunt, has asked me a couple of years back, if I happen to stumble upon anything about Jona online, or anywhere else.

At the time, it kinda made me wonder what's been going on, but I didn't bother asking why, because it's such a simple request.

But you are ABSOLUTELY right. It's up to Jona's parents to deal with it. My part is done.

>>7770381
same. :(

>>7770384
who?

>>7770450
Yeah they seem like chill parents especially since she's Filipino (I think?). Asian parents want the best for their kids and want to be realistic about it, especially if they immigrated from a country with nothing when they arrived.

>>7770457
They might even send her to therapy or something, who knows.

And therapy seems like something she needs.

>>7770437
* to tell her if I happen to stumble upon anything about Jona online

>>7770463

>>7770460

I doubt they'll support her camming, but I don't think they're going to zomg disown her over that.

As someone who got threatened with disownment before, it's somewhat of an empty threat because of the legal process they'd have to go through. Plus they've invested so much in her so their goal would be to 'get her back' more than anything. They'll become clingier, if anything.

>>7770454
Will have to wait and see what happens.

The saddest part is that they're sending her to an Art Institute, they accept pretty much every applicant and they're literally the worst about siphoning as much money as they can out of their students for a really shit education. A degree from them is like a degree from DeVry or the University of Phoenix, it actually detracts from your desirability as an applicant and you'll be lucky to get a brief chuckle out of anyone who's worth their salt in the industry before they trash your resume.

>seagulls constantly post about wanting to find sugar daddies to fund their lolita habit
>ask about camming sites
>someone is successful and public about it
>OMG tell her parents what a whore!!

Never change.

>>7770478
>Jona
>successful about anything other than being a trainwreck

>>7770478
>A rude person is successful and public about it

ftfy

>>7770461

This. I can't stand this side of /cgl/. Okay, be bitches, thats one thing. But fucking tattle tales? gtfo of my face.

>>7770463

Uhhh, you shouldn't have had any part in it to begin with. Like I said, you have no right to butt in because you were not involved in any way, shape or form you little bitch.

>>7770495
You don't know how close they are, it is in fact family member's responsibility to try and help a family member when they are acting in a way that is harming their future.

Do you think what Jona is doing is not bad in any way? Camming, lying, going into a career she will be shit at, driving communities against her? She is a fucking joke.

Also the only people defending jona's behavior right now are the whores on /cgl/ dumb enough to have their own nudes out there. Please fucking go.

>>7770495
Just a bystander here, but my family is really small and close-knit...if my cousin was lying to and taking advantage of my aunt and uncle like this, even if she was just lying about earning her money by washing dishes as opposed to camming like one anon suggested up-thread, I'd still want them to know because I care about them and I know how much the lie would hurt them.
Not to mention, I would feel guilty because I would essentially be lying to them by omission by witholding information like that. It's just how my family works, our business is their business and vice-versa...sometimes it's hard and you get stuck in positions like these where at first it seems like speaking up hurts more than helps, but finding out someone else has been keeping secrets from you hurts even worse in my opinion.

>>7770511
Also a bystander, and it's the same in my family.

>>7770482
>>7770485
Smells like jelly.

And where is Jona in all of this?

Is she hiding in her closet crying her dark eye makup off? Is she hiding at a friend's house? Because c'mon she HAS to know

>>7770536
No, smells like feet and weed.
>>7761827 >>7761836

>>7770505
>driving communities against her
Yeah because a bunch of two faced backstabbing cunts in frills not liking you will totes affect your future in a negative way!

>>7770541
She put her blog on hiatus? That counts I guess.

Anyone friends with her on facebook willing to let us know if she says anything?

oreotits discussion ending, move to new comm thread~

>>7770547
Well if the name Jona Dioquino when searched brings up a ton of porn it will


Thread in autosage move here
>>7770516

>>7770541

>>7770383
Please enlighten us with the difference.

>>7766012
I don't want to say too much because I'm trying hard to stay positive. But they do that shit on purpose. The tea party thing was on purpose. The behavior at the restaurant was on purpose. Planning meets the day after the ones posted were on purpose. I'm sick of giving these bitches free passes. I don't know why they behave like that. It's so childish. I swear to God...

>>7770390
And you don't see any problems whatsoever with what cousin!anon is doing? You don't agree that this is shaming and that he has an ulterior motive? Because he clearly does.

For all we know, he could just be making shit up about Jona's mother working two jobs and shit. How the fuck would we know? But from the way he talks I don't think he's completely trustworthy either.

>>7770489
And to see anons on here defending their bitch boy tattletale...

God, I don't like Jona, but I can't help but hate that little bitch boy cousin even more.

>>7767130
Not at all. I'll admit that one meet though was super awkward because some people acted like they suffered from lock jaw. And they weren't even trying to mingle. It even came off as slightly rude. Their friend is the one that suggested it too. So if they hated it, it's her fault. I really don't think it has to so with meet up locations either. It's something else. I know what I'm talking about.

>>7769471
It will probably break their hearts, but being as it is that they take care of her ass and she lives under their roof, they should know. I know they don't allow rhat kind of filth in their home. Most parents don't. She can get the fuck out where she can pay her bills and support herself? Then I would say leave it be. But she's in their home doing that mess. Nail her ass to the cross. That is so disrespectful. And before the rest of you attempt to start that adult bullshit, adults pay their own bills and get their own place to stay. So shut the fuck up and sit down. Tell on her! She's trashing the lolita community anyway. And her attitude stinks. She needs a reality check.

>>7770463
That sounds like a load of horseshit.

This thread is incredible. Every single day, someone wants to get a sugar daddy or start camming, but when someone you don't like does it, you go ballistic and want to tattle.

Don't give me that "her parents deserve to know" crap, you just want to see her crash and burn. I don't even like her, but fuck, /cgl/, what is this?

I stay the sweet fuck away from any comms to be honest. I have quite a large collection of brand yet bitches still call me an ita. Sweetie, take that shit back to bodyline. Your cheap ass lace might damage other people rentas. Comms are just showers of angry bitches i don't want any part of.

>>7770904
With an attitude like that, I'm glad. We don't want you either.

>>7770904
They probably call you an ita because you can't dress for shit, brand or not.

>>7770904
>I have quite a large collection of brand yet bitches still call me an ita
Just because you've got brand doesn't mean you're wearing it well, we've all seen the Moitié Ita. If it's more than just a few jelly fatties calling you ita, then, well, you probably look like shit.

>>7770464
If you're so paranoid about being hated, why are you posting girls in your comm to ita threads? No one owes you friendship, you do have to be a nice person first. Nice doesn't mean putting people's photos on cgl and opening them up for mockery. Don't be an asshole and then cry later about no one liking you.

I'm relatively new to lolita, so i haven't taken the dive into the local comm. It just seems so full of anger and bitching and nit pickingi got into lolita through a few friends of mine, and their account of the comm is really off putting. Why is there so much drama for something thats supposed to be a pleasure?

>>7772929
Why is there so much drama for something thats supposed to be a pleasure?

>it's a fashion based off of appearances, so people are bound to get judge-y
>it's high cost compared to 'normal' clothes, and money generally creates tension (who can afford stuff vs who can't)
>it's a group of people who have only come together because of a fashion- so you're bound to have conflicting personalities and beliefs
>comms are generally large groups, and smaller cliques inevitably form within. People in a single clique normally share similar beliefs or ideas, that may of may not clash with other cliques and cause conflict

>>7772929
Maybe your friends are just drama magnets? I know a few people in my comm who have beef, but we all stay out of it and it dosent effect us. If somebody causes drama, just avoid it and you'll be fine. Same thing goes for any sort of group, not just lolita