/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>7743236
Holy shit, Milky Tits/Agnostic Pretty dress is here! Hahaha, I was thinking of NeckopockyDess

>>7743240
Love her, pretty much where I got that sentence from

oooh I have so many pictures on my other computer, I'll have to see if I can find some of my favs

>>7743252
Please

One of my favourite AP replicas
I ancef my boyfriend so much

>>7743259
SHTIT
FRI TIT

>>7743252

Comparison

>>7743255
....is there a reason she wants to show off all her scars? I don't know which is scarier, the replica or her arm.

>>7743272
it amazes me they don't even try to change the "Angelic Pretty" parts written on the dress

>>7743273
Not sure, found her in the Angelic Pretty Replica tag on tumblr
def trying too hard

Did anyone ever end up getting that Melty Cream Doughnut replica that was like, spot on?

Oops email left in field.
>>7743273
>....is there a reason she wants to show off all her scars? I don't know which is scarier, the replica or her arm.

>>7743281
How unfortunate. They do have long sleeve blouses.

>>7743284
These scare me, I feel like people in the blue could get scammed.

>>7743290
I saw a pretty good looking Holy Lantern replica on taobao, it looked pretty spot on, and I just imagined someone buying it then passing it off in as the legit thing.

Has this ever happened before?

I was very tempted by by the HL replica but it isn't on the shelf anymore.

>>7743255
I feel like this is becoming a theme with fairy kei and kawaii clothes. "Look at my pained and tortured soul masked with kawaii clothes. Here you can see my past self harm clearly on display." It's not hard to cover up damn.

>>7743255
She has more cuts than a christmas ham.

>>7743268

>>7743309

>>7743255
Idk, these cuts make me feel sorry about her
I guess I'm a seagull with heart

>>7743299
This is what Oo Jia did with Misty Sky or something like that. That's why replicas are banned on EGL comm sales right?

>>7743312
where is her neck? :O

>>7743319
Ate it

>>7743259
is it wrong that i want this for the haha value

>>7743309
Not a bad replica that.

>>7743330
The color is way off

>>7743330
>>7743334
Does this look tan to you? like caramel no?

>>7743259
Sorry, I'm not versed in AP nor replicas, where can I get this beauty. I need it.

Ordered from DOL needless to say i've learned my lesson. Fabric is all scratchy, random black stains, smells like feet.

>>7743299
Honestly I'd probably buy replicas and wear them myself because I'm not part of a comm and nobody around me will ever give a shit about it. Only for hard to get or very expensive dresses, but if the replica looks good, I'd probably wear it.

Never to a con or anything where people would actually know the difference, of course, and probably wouldn't post photos of it anywhere.

>>7743359
Then go to fucking Macy's and buy yourself a sack, don't support something as shitty as replicas you mud cunt-

>>7743359
yeah im pretty much in that mind set as you.
im pretty aware of how bad replicas are. i guess i just dont really care... lol

>>7743387
I feel the same way. I know they're not "good" in terms of supporting the business, but honestly I just don't care. If it fits right and doesn't look like a pile of ass (which, alright, that's rare with replicas) I might as well get one for everyday wear. I'm clumsy and messy, no fucking way I'm wearing a real $500 dress out and about. I'll save that for special occasions.

>>7743389
>>7743387
I don't even buy replica shoes anymore..

>>7743359
>>7743389
Just because you guys are poorfags doesn't mean you should support art theft. It's fucked up.
Buy cheap indie brands at the least, don't buy replicas.

>>7743414
Not a replica-chan, but what are some good, cheap indie brands? Most seem quite expensive.

>>7743507
Taobao is your friend

>>7743389
Sounds like you're in the wrong fashion

>>7743523
I think you're completely misinterpreting what I said.

I'll buy the dress, and then buy the replica to ear day-to-day because I'm not wearing my expensive dress every day when I'm such a klutz. I'll wear the real deal to fancy dinner dates, meetups, etc.

>>7743526
Stop being a klutz

>>7743526
I'm clumsy too and most of my dresses are brand with a few indie/taobao pieces. I even wear them to work and i have never severely damaged any of my dresses. They hold up extremely well, because the price is worth it. There is no excuse.

>>7743550
I literally could not care less about people buying good quality replicas. It's wrong and you're giving people money for a design they stole but I really am just so unfazed by the topic.

One thing that does make me roll my eyes is when people buy replicas and act all "YUP, I SAID IT. REPLICAS"

>>7743389
What I don't understand is... why would you want to be clumsy and messy in a replica that is still over $100? Just wear it for special occasions then. $100 is still a lot for a daily dress. Get cheap stuff on taobao and save the brand for special occasions. Then your nice dress will still look nice, and you won't support replicas.

>Have friend who is just getting into the fashion
>Sends me link to a dress on ebay
>It's Fantastic Dolly.
>Tell her it's a replica
>"oh I see ^^"
>Have tried to tell her in the past not to trust ebay, kind of showing her new sites of indie brands, Bodyline, etc. Just stay the fuck away from ebay
>Posts about her replica dress on facebook.
>Has pulled the "I'll wear what I want" argument on me when I've tried to guide her through.
>She'll go in that dress to a meet up.
>I'm just a bystander by now.

Honestly I feel like there's not much I can do but I am just waiting for this to end up in disaster. She's not loaded in money and I can understand that, but if you want AP you should, I don't know, either find a good seller to get a replica or save up for the original altogether while trying indie brands in the meantime.

>>7743255
people who self harm for reasons other than attention would never show their cuts off like that
>>7743313
problem is people who cut are embarrassed of their cuts, they try to cover them up. Looks like she just wants attention

>>7743674
You can stop being a cutter and still be stuck with your scars everywhere. Maybe she's just unafraid to let people see her scars? I know people with self-harm scars all over their body and that have to wear tights/pants and longed sleeved clothes at all times in order for people not to see them. Once you have them you can't just magically make them go away, maybe she was tired of hiding them and wanted to wear whatever she wants to.

>>7743275
>>7743272
>>7743284
I can't tell the difference between ANY of these.

I'm not pro-replica, btw, that's not what I'm saying. I'd never buy a replica. I just literally can't tell which one is supposed to be the genuine, better one.

Good thing I'm not a sweet lolita

>>7743677
I actually followed her on tumblr, she covered them up for ages then eventually decided to stop giving a shit since they're stuck with them.
I think it's good that she's not afraid to show her arms but it's a bit shocking to see them.

>>7743696
I can tell the difference, I just can't tell which is supposed to be the original
> mfw I'm a cosplayer who just likes looking at all the pretty/ugly

>>7743240
my queen

>>7743334
Not just the colour, the material looks like tarp

>>7743580
>implying people choose to be clumsy

>>7743677

Exactly this. For all anyone knows those scars could be from when she was like 12 years old, and she's over it. You can't spend your whole life hiding your arms, ain't nobody got time for that. There are plenty of functioning adult members of society who have visible self-harm scars.

I have noticeable scars as well and honestly I forget they're there/that its unusual until someone points it out. Taking a photo that her arms in it is not "showing them off".

>>7743880
They look a little too red to be that old, though

>>7743240
Ofcourse u were thinking of me I am lolita hime who ever doesn't support lolita replicas is a communist i wil behind the bows u

btw, has anyone read Koda Bear's journal entry on my videos? I know this is off topic but..I had to ask if anyone else read it for the lulz..XD

>>7743895
LINKU PLS ARIGATO GOZOOMAS

>>7743895
Yes.
and my only reply to that is lmao.
If anyone believes that shit, they're a shit.

>>7743895
I haven't read the journal, link? I did see that video you posted in the cringe thread.

Also, you are my queen and I love you

>>7743895
I really think she hates all lolitas. Anyone that ever says the smallest things against her 'hey just wanted to tell you you said hime wrong' get this polite fuck you response.

I'm totally convinced she hates every lolita she ever will meet even if they never talked to eachother she would just see one across the street and auto think she's a bitch.

>>7743902
http://kotathebear.blogspot.ca/2014/08/lolita-problems-what-ever-happened-to.html

>"Within minutes of posting, I received the most thought provoking response from the video's author. A single, beautiful "lol". Brilliant. "

>May you find it humorous to not, I believe we can agree on some level that this not the kind of video we want newer Lolitas or their parents, for that matter, looking at. I can see the looks on parent's faces now, cringing at the thought that their daughter is into age play and wants to wear "milky tits".

My sides

>>7743918

>>7743918
That girl acts like such a fucking child, Jesus Christ. And her posting those comments make her look like even more of an idiot. Do jokes really need disclaimers now? And if anyone thinks that was serious they shouldn't even have access to the Internet.

It's almost as if she's trying to be the president of lolitas and shoving her two sense into any topic that has the word lolita in it.

>>7743918
This shit is so boring I can't even read it. I've watched her 40-minutes bitching video, I'm not making the same mistake again.

I fucking hate people. I'm a plus size landwhale that worked my but of to fit into brand, dieting and training. I now fit even if i stretch the shirring to oblivion, but I'm working on it.

Entiteled bitches is now throwing their plus size SJW shit on our comms facebook page because of the mod asking pepole to not link replicas in the group. The policy is "discuss it, post about it, but don't link it." Make sense according to me, they don't lynch anyone who chose replicas, but they don't want newbies to think it's legit stuff, post a picture instead of a link, thank you bye.

Buuut now the discussion is at hand because one fat son of a bitch think it should be ok to post replica links if it's plus size and I want to shove her under a bus.

>>7743880
If you're cutting all over your arms, knowing that arms are eventually exposed and scars are forever, then attention is probably part of the driving force of your self injury.

I've had issues with self injury for well over a decade now and I always made it a point to not cut myself on my arms because they WILL be exposed eventually.

>>7743952
ditto for the landwhale status and being anti replica. If you can't fit in a burando piece, either lose weight or find something you will fit into. IW makes some really stretchy JSKs and a lot of Meta skirts can usually go up to 100cm waist.

>>7743981
>self harmers criticizing other self harmers
pls go
If you want to die get a fucking gun and shoot yourself in the head. Ugh.

>>7743814

I can sort of see the point though. If you're really clumsy, the poofiness of lolita doesn't help with that. You might as well get a $20 dress from F21, be as clumsy as you like, spill anything you want on it, then go back to F21 and have a new dress right now, rather than wait some weeks and pay $100 just for a sub par dress to be clumsy in.

Alternatively you could spend that $100 getting something from taobao, a lot of taobao brands put out dresses that are cheaper than $100 and look pretty decent, you could be a clumsy lolita in those, but have non of the stigma of wearing a replica while supporting an indie brand making original designs, and have more variety in your wardrobe. All at the same time.

I used to support the argument of buying a replica for wearing around the house as a daily lolita, but with so many taobao brands making cute dresses, there just doesn't seem to be a good reason to throw $100 for a bad replica of a dress that I already have in my closet.

>>7744002
think you meant to reply to >>7743975

>>7743814
Wat?

What does this have to do with anything?

>>7743313
well everyone take a look at this fucking saint here,

>>7743918
Kota takes lolita waaaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously.

>>7744024
pretty much this.

with taobao indies one is really spoilt for choice. you run the gamut from sweet prints to printless classical pieces. i can never justify spending on white pieces for example because they are hard to maintain. just bought a gothic white skirt supperrr cheap off taobao, problem solved. the thought of buying an MMM replica didn't even cross my mind because there was no need.

there really isn't a point of getting a replica anymore.

Wondering what what you guys think about replicas that are bought secondhand? Obviously it doesn't make it better quality and you probably shouldn't wear it to a con or a meetup, but is it as morally wrong if you didn't directly support the art thieves?

>>7743918
lmao her writing style... If she wasn't writing about lolita I would have thought that she was a neckbeard fedora.
Also her other article about Bodyline "replicas" is fucking hilarious.

>>7743568
Seriously though, imagine being in a community of any other kind that is all about collecting things from a certain brand. Like imagine buying a fake Juicy handbag and meeting up with people who love Juicy and save up for it and you're just like "WELL YEAH. ITS FAKE. WHATS YOUR PROBLEM?"

sigh. entitled poorfags. Hell, it's not even poorfags, you can get brand second-hand for less than a lot of replicas. There's literally no excuse. Stop being a fuckhead.

>>7744192

The argument has been put forward that your money either:
a) goes towards buying more replicas, thereby indirectly still funding replica makers, or
b) even if you bought it from a girl leaving lolita, it lets others know that buying replicas is okay because they can unload at a later date with just the right excusse and only a bit of loss, so the demand for replicas goes up as girls don't have to think twice about losing $100.

In the end, you're still supporting replica makers.

>>7744379
I agree with what you're saying, but hypothetically what if there was a huge loss for the person selling it? Say they were selling it at 1/4th of it's original price, is it still bad to buy?

>>7744638

Even if you managed to find that one girl leaving lolita and giving away her replicas, therefore making 100% loss, your next step is to forever downplay this replica, because if you make it seem like owning a replica is no big deal, or worse yet, you actually rock the replica, then the newbies may take your cue and seek out the replica instead of the original.

>>7743981
Replicas are why I stopped bothering with +lse. 90 percent of it is Oo Jia knockoffs and people trying to pass off $5 walmart blouses as "loliable."

>>7743696
I can tell the difference between all but the Melty Cream Doughnut replica (not gonna lie, if I were into sweet I may be tempted), but I honestly find it kind of hard to tell the difference between replicas of sweet prints and the real deal sometimes, whereas I can tell the difference between classic and gothic ripoffs easily. Not sure if it's just because there's more of a demand for sweet replicas leading to higher quality or if my eye is just untrained.

>>7744657
Your eye is probably untrained, I can see if something is a replica fairly easy. You can tell by the lace, buttons and small details if you can't see it on the fabric itself.
There's a really small difference between the mcd dresses and it's just that the colours look lighter and more vibrant on the replica, probably due to the chiffon being not as high quality as the real deal.

>>7743975
Sometimes people aren't thinking about that when they self harm. I have scars on my forearms that I always wished i had done elsewhere because they were so obvious but at the time it just didn't occur to me that I should prioritize the placement. I hid them under long sleeves for a really long time but they've faded enough I finally feel more comfortable just wearing Tshirts and shit

>>7744657

It's probably that you pay more attention to the things you like the most. For instance, I tell the Sugary Carnival replicas apart by their ribbons because it's one of my favorite details (the original does not use grosgrain. Surprise!) . On the other hand I had to look up what colourways Melty Chocolate actually comes in, I don't remember that kind of thing offhand. Same with Melty Cream Doughnut, there's probably some detail there that would break the heart of someone who loves the original that you and I both overlook.

With classic and gothic, it's more that a replica is made by people who cut corners, so there are little details like the fabric being cheap-looking or the skirt not being full enough. I have to admit I regularly confuse certain classic designs, for eg IW, VM and MM all have their variants of the non print dresses with white bibs, they all look like each other to me.

>>7743284
please tell me the left is the real one

>>7744693
You can see the tag

>>7743895
Are you even an actual lolita tho

>>7744638
It's bad to buy because you just threw good money at a shitty product. Spend it on quality items. A few years ago before taobao upped their game this argument was valid but there are beautiful clothes you could be wearing instead. Why would you want a replica at this point?

>>7743400

>>7744711
Are you slow? they were talking about how they would love to wear replicas, and I said I don't EVEN buy replicas of shoes. Do you still not get it?

>>7743674
No matter why she is cutting it doesn't make it any less of a problem. She clearly should have gotten/should get help as she is self harming.

>>7744720
see >>7744129

>>7744720
They were making fun of you for buying brand shoes.

>>7744728
>>7744727
Brand shoes are way more comfortable, the fake ones I have cuts off the blood supply to my feet.
I'm not going to support replicas what so ever.

>>7744726
Yes, I don't get the "they're just doing it for attention!!1!" argument. Cutting your body, regardless of the reason, is not fucking normal. Just because someone is doing it for attention doesn't make it less of a mental health issue.

>>7744720
That's so much money you could have invested in a staple piece for your wardrobe. It is possible to buy non-replica shoes to match your wardrobe and odds are good they'll be much better quality than brand. Sorry, it's a weak point for most of them and unless you've gotten them second hand for a good price, you wasted your money

>>7744731
How honorable of you.

>>7744731
i got a pair of baby shoes a few years ago and they fell apart after like 3 wears. the straps got stretched and mangled (idk why my feet are hella small) and they scuffed a lot.
that was over $150 wasted on shitty-ass brand shoes. my secret shop shoes have lasted me 2 years and i can get 2-3 pairs for that much.

>>7744735
Obviously I didn't think I wasted my money if I think they are worth it.
And I don't have trouble getting staple pieces even if I buy brand shoes.
And since I'm into sweet, off brand shoes don't really look that good.
Nice shoes are just as importand as a nice dress IMO.
>>7744736
I'd like to see myself that way, and I don't even care if you are trying to make fun of me.
I support the brand I like.

>>7744741
I buy AP shoes, none have failed on me and I've had them for years, my ss shoes I bought years and years ago looked bad after a few wears.

>>7743400

>>7744742
You're the stuck up, easily offended type of person people think of when they say "brand-whore"

>>7744752
Yeah sure doe
cry a little more

>>7744742
It's fine if you feel like you didn't waste your money. Obviously a lot of experienced lolitas here might disagree. I'd hardly say it's honorable, though. It's...nice as a consumer that you're supporting your favorite brands and their continued existence. It's not exactly philanthropic, I mean you are getting a product in return that you use and like. I'd work on what I saw as honorable if I were you. Or maybe consider charity, since you have money to drop on low quality brand shoes.

>>7744755
>still getting butthurt

>>7744745
well good for you? lol
they're all made with the same materials anyway, it's not like the gap in quality between replica shoes and brand shoes is very big. they're all made the same way unless you're getting shitty dear lenore ghetto shoes, even plenty of bodyline's shoes hold a candle to brand shoes. a friend of mine sold her baby boots and kept her bodyline ones because they were more supportive and more comfortable.

whatever if you want to pay $150 more for pleather shoes thats your business but its not like they're automatically amazing quality because you paid more for them.

>>7744756
>>7744752
Wow seriously I just don't support replicas.
Don't take everything so seriously, also not rich at all.
But I ike to buy product that I like in a way that is good for the brand.
If I'm into ap I'm never going to buy ss shoes again.
It's really not that much to read into, you decided that you had to care about a small reart I made, take it or leave it.
And who says I'm not experienced? because I buy brand shoes? because I stay away rom illiegal crap?
Chill a little and don't cry brand whore on such a small thing.
You don't need to agree with me, since I sure don't agree with you.

>>7744742
If you were into classic this argument would make sense but AP shoes are complete shit for the price. Why would I pay more for shoes that are literally identical to SS? Just for a brand logo in the sole? No thanks.

>>7744763
Dude we're literally just working with what you typed out and gave us. There's little to no grand assumptions here. Maybe you should examine that?

>>7744759
I can't speak for baby shoes.
I can only speak for ap, I had boots from bodyline that hurt, my ap one doesn't.
And it's not the same material, not the same construction either. Have you ever closely looked at fake shoes and real shoes (just talking ap again) at the same time? there's plenty of differences.
>>7744758
not actually butthurt, slightly bothered perhaps, since you tried to sum me up based on one thing.

>>7744731
Do you know if AP's tea parties are comfortable and/or worth the money? I had a pair of Baby's shoes fall apart and I'm reluctant to fork over brand prices for shoes unless they wear well. I'd rather have the real AP tps than replicas so long as they don't fall to shite in a matter of weeks.

>>7744763
No one's calling you a brand whore. We're just not exactly ready to kiss your ass for being "honorable".

>>7744768
Nope they aren't the same
>>7744771
maybe you shouldn't assume in the first place? I don't assume stuff about you based on what you are saying right now.

>>7744780
Are you...new here? Why are you responding this way? Or assuming we're all the same person? And how could you assume something about me (or most people that replied) given that we told you nothing about us? Why do these "assumptions" bother/hurt you so much?

>>7744773
>posts how they buy brand shoes
>gets butthurt almost immediately
>wants everyone to kiss your ass
>"u all keep calling me brand whore!!"
>"NOPE MY AP SHOES ARE TOTES BETTER THAN YOUR ILLEGAL SHOES."

you need to get out more

>>7744777
I don't think I'm honorable really, someone called me that trying to sound edgy, I went with it, you took it seriously.
And i was reffered to as brand whore here >>7744752

>>7744776
They are more comfortable than ss shoes, people will tell ypu they are the same, but they really aren't.
ss shoes are shorter on the shaft around the heel, about a cm shorter, this makes them cut in when you walk, ap shoes are also softer sole wise. the buckles are fastened different too, and the ap ones have more attention to details.
There's small things that imo makes ap shoes better and worth it.

>>7744787
>more offended about being called a brand whore than being called stuck up and easily offended
>mfw my point is proven

>>7744782
I answer that way because it takes up lass space, it doesn't bother me I just can't see why you make assumtions and argue over me liking brand shoes.
>>7744786
I didn't sound like that.

>>7744787
>I went with it, you took it seriously.

Interesting, given that you replied with not an ounce of sarcasm. Meaning you're either lying to cover your ass right now or are terrible at conveying anything via text that requires any kind of nuance. If you don't want people to take what you say seriously, you really need to work on your delivery.

I'm going to be generous and believe you aren't lying to make yourself look less like an idiot, but you're making it extremely difficult.

>>7744792
>pretends not to be butthurt
>keeps responding

>>7744792
What is up with this attitude? Do you seriously think you're the only one here who has ever bought brand shoes?

I came here to see shitty replicas and the people that buy them,
not have the thread shitted up by someone on the other end of the spectrum

>>7744791
Ow come on. I don't care, but someone called me it, and then someone said no one did and blahblah.
What's you point even? I'm really not offended, bothered i've said sure, bothered because I don't like being summed up, and having anyone tell me I am a certain way.

You are moving away from what I said, you are reading too much into it, taking me way to seriously, and you think I sit here offended and butthurt now? alright

>>7744800
see >>7744794

>>7744793
Yeajh I'm poor at making myself understood I guess. But I'm never fully serious. You could have asked and I would have told you.
>>7744796
There's no attitude, I answer monotonly right now since I'm answering alot of stuff.
>>7744794
I like to respond

>>7744797
Sorry, I'll stop engaging her. Seems pretty new/young.

>>7744787
I think I'll save up for AP ones in that case! Sounds worth it for the comfort.

I dont get why people buy replicas. They are shit and not even that cheap. I own one bodyline replica, but it cost 10€.

>>7744805
eh, I'm more irritated by her than you since she honestly is handling it badly

>>7743507
There are a TON of great lolita indie brands (notably on Taobao). You can get really lovely dresses for around $100 (including shipping).

I'd recommend going on the Taobao thread and looking at the OP because there are lists of lolita Taobao stores, and also guides on how to buy from them.

I only see fat people wearing replicas, and usually you can instantly tell they're replicas because you KNOW they'd never be able to fit into brand sizes...

Then again, most of my comm is fat and I live in a state where the percentage of fat people is really high.

I'm not new nor young, but blame it on me if that feels nice.
here's some oo jia

>>7744787
Replicas aside, AP is not a shoe brand. People often complain about their jewelry breaking, which is understandable because it isn't a jewelry brand either. AP knows how to make good quality socks and dreses. There's no reason this has to carry over into shoes. Truly high quality shoes would come from actual shoe brands. This is why many lolitas like Fluevog, Mojo Moxy, Irregular Choice, etc. over brand shoes. It's fine to tale pride in your supporting a brand, but insisting that AP shoes are amazing quality is pointless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2ubM7GGMH0


so at first I thought it was because this was old that she was wrong on a ton of things,
but it's from July this year.
>says bodyline dress is 85 dollars
>says infanta dress is 35

I can get that she doesn't buy from bodyline, but doesn't everyone know about the yen trick, and how the price you pay for taobao is increased because you have to use a SS and ship it?

also
>brand=godly few

>>7744257
exactly this. I bought a really beautiful Innocent World dress second hand for around $150, and I see people throwing more than $100 for replicas.

What the fuck is the point? Why would you buy a replica when you can get second hand brand or beautiful Taobao dresses for so cheap?

>>7744808
How am I handling it badly? honestly I would like to know, I'm not sure how it came to be just me being an issue, it takes two to tango.
I never said anything offensive to anyone, or anything that would start a forest fire.
I got shot from more than one direction and that makes it hard to know who to react to, but we

>>7744816
I never did, I said it's worth it lolita wise, because I think it is.

>>7744787
my ss shoes don't cut into my heel at all when i walk? the buckles are fine. i dont see how two small differences merit a price increase of $100. ss comes in tons of colors and sizes and hold up really well.

>>7743634
one of my friends who's just getting into the fashion is considering replicas too, and it makes me so frustrated. I've shown her Taobao brands, some gorgeous indie prints, HOW to buy from Taobao, etc... but she still accuses me of being a replica hater and thinks my opinion on replicas is literally hitler

The main thing to me is that, yes, replica dresses are a form of art theft, and it's awful, but just the QUALITY of replica dresses is extremely poor.

I'm just hoping that if I keep getting her to look at Taobao brands and their releases she'll be less tempted to get replicas...

>>7744821
Holy shit you're still responding

>"i never said anything offensive"
>"it takes two to tango"
Way to contradict yourself in one post

Get some thicker skin, jesus christ

>>7744786
>"NOPE MY AP SHOES ARE TOTES BETTER THAN YOUR ILLEGAL SHOES."
what?? they are, all my shoes are brand except 2 pairs (offbrand and bodyline)
btssb shoes arent as bad as everybody says they are but they do scuff easily, just be careful with them theyre really cute and comfortable though, AP shoes are a lot better than bodylines, ive had this one pair of AP tea parties for like a year and they almost look new

>>7744821

http://egl.livejournal.com/17442509.html

Not AP, but still a fun little tale.

>>7744638
why would you waste your money on a shitty replica, ESPECIALLY if they're selling it for only 1/4th the price? Aren't most replicas around $100? So you're spending like $25 on some cheap ass ugly dress? Just why?

>>7744816
Agreed. I also think that if AP realizes it's shoe sales are much lower than the rest of what it carries, they'll work on creating something of higher quality. Or hey, continue to not work on it because they're getting a lot of their money elsewhere and no matter what there are some people that will shell out the money for the shoes. Given how cheap the material is and how average the construction is, they must be making a good profit on them even if they don't sell well.

>>7744825

Maybe you should show her this thread instead, with a message like "I don't want you to end up being posted here"

>>7744825
Maybe show her how the quality differs and explain that even normalfag clothes would suck at the same quality

also maybe next time you buy from taobao, ask if they want to GO so you can funnel them towards something good with little effort on their part

or just give up, since your friend sounds pretty happy with ignorance

>>7744834
haha, that might dissuade her, actually!

>>7744828
I didn't actually say anything offensive tho.

>>7744831
That's horrible..
My ap boots have survived the winter here, and my shoes usually get ruined by the salt so I'm happy with that.

>>7744835
I'm not going to give up because she seems to genuinely love the fashion, but just loves AP's chocolate prints a little too much, which is the main reason she was considering replicas.

I'm thinking of gathering a few comparison photos of brand and replicas for her as well in hopes that it would convince her not to be a fucking ita noob.

But yeah, a Taobao GO sounds like a really great idea. I'll have to consider that option!

>>7744841
fucking look back in the thread

look how you handled everything

You did it poorly. Stop playing the "poor me I didn't do anything"

I'm done responding to you because you honestly just keep fucking the thread up

>>7744825
>>7744820
I feel like it's a strange case of laziness. Strange because it nearly takes just as much work as buying from taobao and an equal amount of effort if they buy a nice secondhand piece. Bodyline replicas look "easy" to a lot of people because the site looks more like a straightforward American site. But then I look at shit like oo jia and what the process must be to get those replicas and it's an awful lot of work to get your replica.

>>7744844
You could maybe tell her about the idea of a dream dress as well, then maybe she'll take her focus off of the chocolate prints long enough to listen to you and your taobao suggestions

I wish you luck, anon!

>>7744847
I gave an explanation somewhere, said I'm bad at showing how serious I am.
But I didn't call names so I didn't actually say anything offensive in that manner.
I don't feel sorry for myself, but you keep insisting that I single handed took a dump on this thread ands that's just not true.
I never said anything bad in my original post, but I got alot of shit anyway and I just didn't care about the way anyone else chose to argue about it.
If you actually look back, you see that I didn't start it, I continued it, because we all did.
Don't expect me to stop responding when you could do the same.

>>7744842
i had baby boots and they were so uncomfortable i had to sell them, no ankle support at all. i wish i could find a good pair of winter lolita boots.

>>7744844
I love AP's chocolate prints too and was able to afford the fashion way after their first two releases. Maybe teach her how to look through Mbok and YJapan Auctions? I'm slowly building a wardrobe centered around chocolate stuff and I exclusively get secondhand.

Also, there are a few taobao stores doing their own chocolate prints that are really really nice. It's worth looking into. I almost picked up this adorable salopette off taobao, but then found one of the ones I really wanted from AP on Lacemarket.

>>7744853
I can definitely do that! Thank you, anon!

>>7744863
Teaching her to look through Japanese auction sites is another good idea, which I haven't talked to her about yet!

Are there multiple Taobao chocolate prints? I've seen one, but unfortunately I can't remember the brand or name of the print. Maybe I'll look into those for her too.

>>7744861
I bought these, I'm going to try finding pink boots this winter.
They are really soft and supportive around the ankle, there's wiggle room too. They haven't scruffed or cracked either.
I hope you find good boots anon

>>7744868

>Taobao chocolate prints?

Different anon here, there's been at least 4, but most of them are sold out:

http://lolibrary.org/search/node/chinese%20indie%20chocolate

And this is the newest one:
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4004-6585735485.16.S0CLMb&id=39029505887

The same fabric is used to make a salopette, but I cannot remember which taobao shop used it.

>>7744868
There are a few but it takes some real digging. Here's one shop that has something:
http://shop34653600.taobao.com/shop/view_shop.htm?user_number_id=59154564

>>7743952
Congrats on the weight loss anon, keep it up

>>7744192
Still supporting the idea though.

>>7744787
Don't know why everyone's attacking you. You like brand shoes so what. You never once bashed someone for wearing replicas, you just don't like it personally. Don't see why people are bashing you.

>>7744887
>Didn't expect that one on here.
Thank you so much, I will and I will also forever thank my parents that the fat don't go to my shin nut decides to land on my butt/hips and even though I'm white as a ghost.

>>7744891
Thank you, seriously

>>7744891
There's a difference between liking brand shoes and being a dick about liking brand shoes and shitting up an entire thread

Don't see how anyone was "attacking" her either

>>7744852
If you're willing to pay the markup, places like clobba, qutieland, my Lolita dress make buying from taobao super easy.

>>7744902
Love My Lolita Dress. Hate how people went around calling her a scam because her store front looked "suspicious", but she's the sweetest thing. She even added me on her personal Facebook to keep me updated on everything, and has been nothing but helpful.
sage for off topic, Linda's just so nice tho

>>7744902

The only issue I've ever had with My Lolita Dress is that they don't update the site as often as they should. They have fantastic customer service, though.

>>7744819
I feel like kota's videos are so long because she does that brief staring off into the distance before saying what she needs to say 45 times throughout her videos.
And isn't what makes a replica a replica complete print and design theft? While bodyline's are just as vaguely similar as you can get to a dress without completely stealing the design? Similar to how F21 and other cheap fashion places create clothing similar to brand names? Correct me if I'm wrong, I wasn't in lolita when Bodyline released their Fruit's Parlor "replica".

>>7744912

Linda is the best. I've never had a problem with her, and she's always so sweet!

>>7744902
Forgot about that since I usually use Bhiner! Qutieland was the first place I bought lolita boots years ago

>>7744920
She should be saying that Bodyline is knock-off of brand, but I guess calling them all replicas is more dramatic and makes her seem more "pure" to avoid it and make everyone avoid it

>>7744921
>>7744912
I agreed

>>7744920

Sort of. You're short a few prints; Bodyline not only copied Angelic Pretty's Fruits Parlor, they also copied two other IW prints (one is the puppy print, I forgot what's the other though).

But. On top of that, someone on egl once linked a Japanese site that tracked down the sources for some of Bodyline's non print dresses, and it turns out that they were also lifted without permission from personal artists, fanart, unknown Japanese indie brands, and so on. Since their sources were mostly Japanese Western lolitas had no idea until the site surfaced. We're talking about direct copies here, the dresses were basically premade cosplay of someone else's fanarts, or else they were outright copies of indie brand dresses, not "similar clothing".

This was all about 5, 6 years (?) ago. A little while back Bodyline started cleaning up their act. Nowadays, I **think** their designs are mostly original, or as you say, tweaked designs that aren't direct copies.

5-6 years ago isn't a very long time, though. Those of us who were in the fashion still remember Bodyline as being a dodgy brand that made replicas.

>>7744912
people think it's a scam because when they first were around they had stolen stock photos! They might've taken them all down. Also that occasionally she'll post a 'look at my new dress' on EGL and it looks like she just threw it on over her clothes.

>>7744852

Oo Jia makes it really easy, just message her on facebook, tell her what you want and she'll tell you how much, shipping included. One month after payment, the dress arrives at your doorstep. She posts her latest replicas and custom orders on fb, and sometimes sells off flawed prints at reduced prices, so it can get quite interactive to see what she's up to each month. I guess that might be hook that brings in some of her followers, once she's added on FB her replicas will be in your feed instead of needing to translate some Japanese blog/Chinese weibo to keep up with what shops are putting out what print.

For those of us who have been here awhile, we've heard so much drama about Oo Jia that I'd stay away from her no matter how good other people say her replicas are, but for a newbie who doesn't know her history, and possibly don't know anything about brand except rumours that they're expensive and small-sized, Oo Jia probably looks like an easy choice.

>>7744800
>I don't like being summed up
>Tryin' my best to be a real individual

What does people think about things like this?
Personally I really like some lolita prints, but I'm not really fan of the lolita aesthetics, it's just too much details (like frills, lace, bows etc) on the dresses IMO. I just want a really plain, printed dress for more daily or otome uses.

>>7745061
it says angelic pretty on it

and if you want a more normalfag dress, there's plenty of normalfag printed dresses

and there's brands designed for casual lolita

>>7745061
Misty sky has barely any details on it to begin with..

>>7745096
I'm not really talking about Misty Sky, it was just the first example of a lolita print being used on a non-lolita styled dress. Let's say you want Chess Chocolate print or something on a normal dress like this.

>>7745061
what a shit cut for that fabric

>>7745061
Then buy one with a similar print instead of the exact same one you fucking idiot

>>7745108
That'd be nice-- I wish brands would start putting out on or two items like that. When AP does brown it lends itself so well to otome and I'm leaning toward that as I get older. But I get why they don't. They're a lolita brand plain and simple. I'd buy the crap out of a Chess Chocolate in that silhouette, but I'd feel pretty bad about getting it if it directly rips off AP's fabric and design.

>>7745108
just buy some goddamn otome. ETC don't make their prints for nobody pleasure

I've really only bought one replica bag and that's it. When I bought it I didn't even realize it was a replica of an AP bag. It wasn't until my friend and I did more research into replicas that we saw how bad it actually was. I'm currently looking for an indie brand donut bag to go with my current coord and I'm not sure I'll get the bag in time if I buy the original from AP.

All I know is that I fucked up majorly when I bought a replica bag lol. It was surprisingly well made, though, but still...I'd rather not hurt a company by getting replicas.

Come, children.
For fruity filename anon has come to bless this thread.

This is it.
Truly painful to look at.

>>7745169
Hurray for Fruity Filename Anon~! We could use you in the ita thread as well.

>>7745177
>those shoes
I hope she didn't leave her room like this.

>>7745182
I think that's a dwarf? Sure looks like one.

>>7745146
I actually really like my replica bags. I do have brand ones I wear when in lolita but I usually use the replicas when I want to dress cute & not worry about my purse.

I honestly feel so on the fence about brand bags. I feel that due to it being almost asinine trying to get popular ones from Angelic Pretty's shop (I'm looking at you melty moon bag) that replicas are more accepted than print dresses and the like.

Any opinions anons? Just curious what others think about the bag side if the discussion.

This thing is in my comm. Someone, please send help.

>>7745205
I really don't care about purse replicas, because as someone said before that I think works in this case as well,

they aren't a purse store. The quality may be near the same as actual brand, and their main items are dresses

I don't get how to phrase this other than "The dresses are their livelyhood so it's what matters," since that sounds kind of reaching

>>7745205
Honestly, I'm okay with replica shoes and bags. I only say that because most normal stores tend to copy each other anyway.

If the bag is similar and not an exact replica I'm okay with it. I'm also reluctant to buy a pleather bag for 150 dollars when I can get a nice leather bag elsewhere for that price but that's a different story.

How in the hell do you have a bathroom like that and STILL buy a god damn replica?
Really?

>>7743312
...Uncle Robert?

And I'll be back.

In the ita thread.

>>7745214
...seriously

>>7745214
>tfw my kitchen is smaller than this girl's bathroom
Damn.

>>7745207
I've seen her wardrobe video on youtube, seems like just another harmless socially impaired replica chan

>>7745214
anon that is a kitchen
...unless she makes coffee in her bathroom

>>7745214
There's a wall mirrror in the back, makes the bathroom look twice as big as it is.

>>7745232
how stupid are you?

>>7745232
You can see a towel thingy and it seems like there are far too many mirrors for a kitchen. Also, surely a huge rug in a kitchen is a fire hazard?

>>7745232
I think I see a cup with a toothbrush in it. And having a door with a mirror on it in your kitchen is weird as fuck.

>>7745232
Do you not see the bath tub? That's a bathroom. I have a less fancy version of the same size bathroom. Those are not sinks for washing dishes anon....

>>7745232
>>7745214
It looks like she is standing next to a the bath tub?

>>7744844
tell her if she gets a replica everyone else will be able to tell and laugh at her behind her back :')
Especially if she looks like a cow.

>>7745192
>everything

>>7745232
That's a brita filter.
Not sure why that's there, maybe her city has shit tier water.

>>7745268
That or she lives in the country with well water and not a spring. My boyfriend lives in an area like that and if you don't filter the water, drinking the tap can cause diarrhea.

>>7744831
It's probably true though. Japanese shoe sizes tend to run narrower than in western countries, even at the same size. Though, considering the amount of damage for only a few hours wear probably means Baby shoes aren't that great for anything more than standing and taking photos in.

>>7743918
Hhheeyyy! I'm one of the comments posted there!

>>7745214
Ew, rugs in bathrooms? Just why?

>>7745397
To dry your feet when you get out of the shower.

That's a big ornate rug though, yeah.

>>7744985
I bought my first dress from Oojia, and this was exactly my experience. It was about two years ago, and I didn't really know anything about buying brand secondhand, all I knew was that the original of this thing was so rare that I'd never seen it anywhere else. It was also 1. exactly my size 2. the most perfect print I'd ever seen (and I'd done a lot of browsing before picking one to buy).

At the time, I thought it was the most beautiful goddamn thing in the world. Now I know that, while it's not brand quality, it's still awfully nice, and it's endured a lot. I've only bought brand/taobao/BL since, but I still wear the replica all the time. It seems like Oojia generally makes decent stuff, except when someone asks her to make a piece in a weird cut that doesn't fit them (ex. misty sky v-neck in >>7745061 and vomit carnival salopette >>7745177 ).

Would I buy the original brand dress if I found it on sale? Sure, I'd like to, it's my size and if I saved up I could probably afford it. But it usually gets sold too quickly for that, and it's not really a priority since I'd rather spend my money on a different dress altogether.

>however, had i gotten a truly awful DoL milky planet or some shit, this last bit would be a different story
>long rambling pointless replica story

>>7744831
>http://egl.livejournal.com/17442509.html
>amethystcitrine

Fuck anon, right through the heart.

I kind of want to buy replica fabric just to mess with and pretend I work for the brand, haha. But I heard the fabric is cheap quality and I'd rather not support replica makers, oh well.

>>7744847
Wow, someone woke up a sandy cunt this morning.
I hope you get blisters in your crappy replica shoes king-faggot

>>7744901
Do you have rocks for eyes?

>>7745061
holy fuck, that looks really awful
what's with that fucking belt?
you wanted simple but that belt is anything but and makes it look like shit LOL

>>7745169
good god, that wide fucking bodice

>>7745177
...what the fuck happened to her other pink shoe?

>>7745256
she's not fat, but she's REALLY tall (she's 6') and is quite busty. I guess that's another factor that I should have mentioned that draws her to replicas because even if she was able to pony up the money to get her dream dress she probably wouldn't fit it because of her height and bust size, which really sucks.

What do you guys think of tall lolitas wearing those underskirts to make the dress knee-length? I think it'd work really well for her, but tends to look terrible on shorter girls because it makes their legs look stumpy.

>>7745214
think about it - flavour of the week "lolita fashion!!" aligns well with pocket money of the week - $150 for being a jerkoff at school, the remaining $45 you can spend on trash kiddo :D we marble bathroom benchtops now

>>7745897
I've found that they work okay as long as the underskirt only adds a little bit of length so it just looks like extra trim on the edge of the skirt rather than three tiers of ruffles and lace (I'm looking at you Baby). Anything past an inch or so begins to look off.

>>7743975
>If you're cutting all over your arms, knowing that arms are eventually exposed and scars are forever, then attention is probably part of the driving force of your self injury.

If you're crazy and in emotional pain bad enough to slice up your skin, you're not going to be thinking "gee, I should probably do it somewhere easy to cover up!"

I learned this the hard way. I started cutting in wintertime and it didn't occur to me that it would leave such obvious scars. Summer came around and I learned to cut just above my pussy so even if I'm standing in panties you can't see the scars. And now I hit myself because bruises heal wonderfully. This isn't something a person who just started doing it thinks of, it can take years of embarrassment.

>>7745934
>think you cut in non-obvious place
>dr makes you go naked under paper gown
>dr essentially tears off paper gown
Fuck doctors.

>>7745228
Link?

>>7745214
That doesn't look fancy/expensive, just old. Most working class houses from the 70's have that look where I'm from.

Wow, you're pretty new if you don't remember her other dramas

- Oo Jia wasn't banned from egl comm sales because of replicas, she was banned for using photos of original Milky Berry to sell her replica.

- Oo Jia sold a Dream Sky original and replica to a girl -- except it turns out the original is also a fake. When outed, she said that she thought it was original. The catch is, this was the exact same "factory surplus" replica that she had sold before, her old FB with photos of that had been deleted so I guess she thought no one would remember.

- One run of her SNT replica had a print mistake. She allowed her customers to return them, but then sent those flawed items to other customers. I guess she hoped that her customers were gullible enough to not realise they were sent flawed rejects.

- After receiving some hatemail, she posted she has 9 seamstresses working for her who would be out of jobs to support their families if she closed down. She posted a photo of her seamstresses, but someone reverse-searched the image and found that it came from some institution's website. Looks like she cooked up a sob story and slapped a stolen photo on it to garner sympathy.

- My own personal experience: She quoted me higher prices than her own set prices. One of my designs was made with the wrong design; I pm-ed and emailed her, and left comments on FB. She didn't respond, a package from her turned up a week later; it looked like she knew it was the wrong design and hoped that I would shut up and keep it anyway.

- She replaced my dress (with a crappier one but hey). Weeks later, a girl posted to FB wearing the dress that I had sent back; Oo Jia's clothes usually fit loose on her customers but this girl said that she had trouble zipping her dress even though she sent in measurements, so I think Oo Jia sent her the dress that I rejected even though the measurements didn't fit

So yeah, a long list of shady business practices. Not even debating the quality of replicas.

>>7746338 is for >>7745442

>>7745955
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thHdCEzdYsA

>>7746338
She passed on the Paypal fees to me, quoting me $100 for a dress then popping the fess on top. Not sure if she still does it or has done it to others. In my defence, this was years ago before the replica explosion occurred. I was a newbie to EGL and had no idea about paypal fess or replicas.

>>7744820
I have a IW dress I got for about $125 brand new from their sale. It's really lovely and beautiful (pic related, the dress)

>>7745954
I thought I had a great place for cutting, just below where my pants sit on my hips so that they are only visible in panties/bikini. Never thought I'd be comfortable enough with myself to wear a bikini or wan to do skimpy cosplays.
3 years later and I am wearing bikinis and doing those cosplays, feeling really dumb because even with concealer on the scars, it's obvious that they aren't just a strange case of bad stretch marks on a skinny girl.

There's no winning with cutting.

>>7745182
you need to rename this one
'I_ate_the_filename'

>>7743975
I have only cut three times in my life. The first time was when my depression was at a peak and the only thing I could think of was suicide to make it stop, I was looking up what it might feel like to die when I stumbled over an article about endorphins being released when people get into accidents or self harm. At the time I didn't really have much in the way of emotion other than self hate, but a part of me knew that at the very least my cat would care if I was gone and I didn't have my boyfriend in my trust yet, so I figured, fuck it why not?

The only thing I had was a (unused, I hadn't been drinking) wine glass, which out of all the weird things, I bit into it to break, and then looked for the sharpest point. I found a paper thin shard that was attached to the bulk of the glass still on the stem, and I tried one small cut on my arm where I could blame anything. Then the next thing I knew I had gone to town on my whole arm top to bottom and I honestly felt better. Not the best way to deal with problems, but hey it worked two more times when I hit bottom but then those times I cut into my thigh and foot which are easier to hide.

Point is, people don't usually cut for attention or even think about where they are cutting until well afterwards, but then what are you supposed to do? Hide your skin for the rest of your life so that other people don't feel uncomfortable? Fuck that.

Can someone tell me where the care tags/ap tag is on this cut of Twinkle Carnival? I either got an exact, high quality replica or someone took the tags off for some dumb reason.

>>7746686
Have you checked on the inside of the skirt? I think it's the left side, lower-mid.

Yeah, I've scoured it and can't find anything. I didn't see where someone would have cut it off either but maybe I missed it. I guess they might have also just seam-ripped it off though. I'm just confused because it even still had the extra button attached when I got it, but I can't find a single tag. I also can't find any Twinkle Carnival replicas that look remotely like the real thing, but I guess maybe it doesn't matter that much if it's the exact same as the real thing. Just kind of bugs me not knowing, I'd feel bad if it was fake.

>>7746702
>>7746691

>>7746702
you can always just accuse the seller of giving you a replica. Either you'll come off like an ass (who cares) or they'll admit their replica bs

http://www.storenvy.com/products/8856423-angelic-pretty-cats-tea-party-op-dress i wonder if it's even a replica or just pure scam.

>>7746750
Well considering the image was stolen from ameblo, I'm gonna let you put the pieces together yourself...
http://ameblo.jp/ours-x-sucre/day-20130210.html

>>7745975
you must live in a nice-ass area
that looks like a mcmansion bathroom

this replica chan's face expresses how i feel about repicas

>>7746702
Maybe you got one of the first versions, the ones that don't get sold in store? or a factory replica? which is just a stolen ap dress without tag

>>7746750
Considering they have sold like 4 already since girls are going WOOHOO GOT CATS TEA PARTY FOR CHEAP on instagram, it's obviously a scam.

Why they have not been reported, I have no idea.

>>7744912
Fourth'd, she's so nice.

>>7743882
They don't look red to me, they look more brown/tan. Definitely not fresh.
I have a friend who had major surgery about two years ago and his scars are about that color. Seems long enough for someone to grow tired of hiding their arms if that's the case. Every body is different though.

>>7746460
She doesn't know how to cut bangs, gross face, she's a fattychan and she wants to use these pieces for lolita cosplay.

Please. Someone make her move away.

>>7743236
How do you guys actually recognize a replica? Except if they're tents stretched out on fatties. Kind of a newfag here so yeah.

>>7745219
Seriously, I just won the chess chocolate bustier JSK in pink with the headbow from mbok for $150. Whether or not it's the popular color, at least it's the real deal.

>>7747629
I'm not that versed to it, but generally it's the lace and/or fabric
It's usually apparent when the materials are cheap

>>7747629

That's kind of the thing. Except for the Melty Cream Doughnuts up above (and even that is debateable... for now), there's never been a replica that looked like the original. Almost all of them look "off" in some details or another. A lot of times the lace below the skirt is not ruffled enough or two long (or both), the charms used are cheaper/more common than original brand's, the colours or some details of the prints are off, the fabric itself is wrong, and that's not even touching that some girls get the replicas made in designs that the original did not come in.

>>7747629
The colours are usually off (see the melty chocolate upthread), the construction/materials are visibly cheaper/shittier (easier to tell if you've seen or own brand), sizes/proportions will be off, lace is frequently different, little details might be missing, etc.
With the newer taobao replicas (like the Melty Cream Donuts OP upthread), it's a bit harder to tell, but even so, the bib is less wide on the replica, and the colour is slightly more vibrant and blue than the mint of the original. The waist bow is also placed slightly higher.

>>7747629
I kind of wish someone would make a guide. There are a few blogs that do it for korean makeup vs. fakes. I think after looking at a few you'd be able to tell for the rest of your life.

It's a little creepy, but the first thing I do when I see a brand dress is feel the fabric. That way, if someone wears a replica I can tell immediately just by looking at the texture.

>>7747633
It's not like most of the colorways are bad either. Unless you're pretty picky, you must have at least 2 or 3 colors per set that look nice to you or work with your wardrobe. Like, for Chess Chocolate, mint is my favorite color but the brown looks just as good to me and I could do mint accessories.

So, for verification, is the taobao store salopette on the right, their version of the dress on the left or a replica?
Also what is the dress on the left called?

>>7747678

I'm not sure who doesn't do this actually. Most of my lolita friends love to stroke other people's dresses (with their permission of course) and I don't know anyone who doesn't love the 'feel' of good quality fabric. I still stroke my dresses at random points, especially when I can't wear them, to remind me that they're there.

>>7747703
Please lurk more before posting here. This is one of AP's most popular/frequent releases (or, they release it with slight tweaks basically every year). It's the Royal Chocolate Salopette. The one on the right is that store's cheap imitation of it. It's clearly inspired but also clearly not a replica.

>>7747703
A version, the one on the left is melty royal chocolate in mocha by AP

>>7747720
I should specify that it's the double-button 2012 release.

>>7747722
MRC has a bustle on the side and no "melty" hemline.

>>7747629
Thin material (seethrough and usually wrinkly as fuck), sad floppy bows, prints cut off on the bottom/edited/faded/shiny, thin lines, like the ones on Puppet Circus or in the letters of Angelic Pretty will look like the ink ran, or are far too thin.

>>7747725
woops sorry, I'm not into all the chocolate prints

>>7747720
>>7747722
Eh I've been around a while I just never picked up on dress names and whatnot as I hadn't planned on buying any until now.
Also thanks, problem solved!

>>7747629
Sometimes it is painfully obvious. Pic related.

Often AP will use custom lace, replica shops don't usually do this, or they replicate it poorly. I think someone posted on here, they got a Fairy Marine replica and the custom lace was sewn on backwards.

Little details like custom buttons, and little charms, again on AP's FM the stars dangling on the bow weren't the same as the original.

Colours are off, sizes can be off if custom made. (And that can be super obvious - ain't no way some hamplanet's 300lb ass can fit into that), lengths sometimes are different. Prints sometimes get cut off at the border. (Insert immigrant joke) Prints aren't as crisp and clean.

Then materials are lower quality, not as soft, I've seen some that just wrinkle ridiculously. Stiff fabric is pretty common.

>>7744734

I get bothered when I see the ones who post selfies twisting their forearms into uncomfortable looking positions to get the entire damage, and add over-saturated filters to increase the redness.

Yes they are looking for attention, and yes they should get the same help as any other self harmer. But, they are still attention whores. That is a personality trait, not a mental health issue like SH. If they weren't ill, they'd still be attention whores. Because SH is something they do, they are attention whores about it. Just like if they played a sport or something, they'd probably be an attention whore about that too. I hate them for being attention whores, not for
being cutters I hope I'm making at least some sense.

It pisses me off as someone who used to self harm and still relapses at times because I feel it reflects on all of us.

I don't care if I notice someones cuts in person, or the girl in the pic, because like others have said, life is life, and you shouldn't cover up for the rest of your life bc of past mistakes.

>>7746570
Wow, that's so beautiful, anon. And only $125?! That's amazing, so worth it

>>7745169
Nothing against ""fatties"" some of them are really cute (the one in the pic has potential) but when i see them I feel terrified just by picturing myself looking like this,fat and having to buy replicas (the horror) so I always finish my 2L water bottle by the end of the day,move my ass a bit and count calories. And I have to try on my dresses every single day to make sure I still fit into my brand because I'm a nervous wreck always anxious as fuck.

>>7746968
Could be, or it's just altered. It's definitely way too high quality and close to the original to just be any old replica (the fabric and screenprint and general construction are spot-on), but the front bow has actually been sewn to the dress whereas it hangs loose on the ones I find online, and the pearls are in a slightly different spot. It shall forever remain a mystery.

>>7746735
I bought it quite a while ago and only just started to wonder now because I was looking for the care tags.