/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>stuffed animal bags/purses
nothing screams ageplay more than those.
>heals
gravity and me don't get along, ever.
>peignoirs
make you look like an old lady in her pjs

>>7733261
>heals
gravity and me don't get along, ever.
just because you're too dumb to wear them doesn't mean they should be eliminated from the fashion, you fermented pube garden

also OP said -one- item, what is reading comprehension

>>7733267
meant to quote as
>>heals
>gravity and me don't get along, ever.
but what fucking ever.

Also for me, it would be berets. I hate the way they sit on your head and when people tack a bunch of bows to them to try and sweeten them up I just fucking cringe

>>7733261
>peignoirs

Thread over. Weeby fashion disasters fucking love this trend. It's always itas who are 1 or 2 years late to any party.

flower crowns
no one knows how to coord them with jfashion, ever.

>>7733261
>book bags
nothings screams crusty librarian more than those

>the constant AGEPLAY callout

Makes the commenter sound retarded and creepy for constantly wanting to insinuate pedophilia. In fact, make that:

>blatant useless bitching
Like about knees, "AGEPRAY111!", w/e

>>7733294
I don't think you understand this thread.

fucking peignoirs. Thy can look okay with some things, but everyone and their dog is wearing them with coords that have no business having a peignoir.

>>7733295
I do. And do I care? No.

Seconding peignoirs. They can look really nice when done right, but it's so rare to see it done well. I'm also not big on anything involving rattles or soothers.

>>7733302
If I had to choose one thing so would it be tryhards with sandy vaginas like you

>>7733315
Oh shoot, I forgot you could only pick one item. Peignoirs. Sage for my stupidity.

Bonnets.

In fact I wish I could eliminate them from the world. You can't argue "It's a fashion not a costume!" If you've ever worn a bonnet. They're horrible.

God I hate bonnets.

>>7733348
You have a very narrow view of fashion.

>>7733315
haha oh god this looks so fucking stupid

>>7733353
Considering I participate in fashions most people consider weird as fuck, and you know I do because I'm posting on this board and in this thread, you know that isn't true.

>>7733348
Seconded almost. They're hideous to me. I don't know why someone would rag on simple berets when bonnets are so huge, ungainly, and probably one of the most costumey pieces you could have on.

Almost because I see so many people who love them and are genuinely happy to have one that eliminating them seems pretty selfish.

>>7733257

pastel twin tail wigs with long middle parted bangs.

>wigs
It seems like wigs are becoming an excuse to not ever do anything with your hair, and it would be nicer if people didnt rely so much on fake hair.

>>7733261
But how can you say no to this face?

>>7733348
> You can't argue "It's a fashion not a costume!" If you've ever worn a bonnet.

This is how I feel about obvious wigs. If I open up a picture and I immediately can tell you're wearing a wig it ruins it for me.

>>7733448

Couldn't agree more. That and some wigs make Lolita look x10 more like a costume than an actual alternative fashion...

>>7733448
Some people don't have the right hair to do lolita with in the first place. Hence wigs.

>>7733280
Wow, you managed to quote yourself to 'fix' your formatting in case someone totally cared about your anonymous opinion, but didn't fix "heels".
I hope it was just a phone typo.

I guess for me it's that I wish to eliminate the rule that you can't just wear black Mary Jane shoes with any colour coord, like back in the old days.

>>7733448
The only thing that bothers me about wigs is that I've seen a lot of people make it look like as if wigs were completely necessary to complete a coord.

>>7733486
I've got really tight 3b-3a type curls, which get really frizzy so I'm pretty sure my hair will ruin most lolita coords. Heat styling would make my hair worse in the long run so wigs are the way to go.

>>7733486
This.
I don't have very thick hair so wigs makes things so much easier for me. I usually use wigs in natural colors though to not make it look costumey

>>7733497
I think we should just fucking do this. Having to color coordinate your shoes is ocd on so many levels.

>>7733315
That peignoir isn't half bad, actually. It's really full and looks like it was designed for a lolita petticoat (unlike the thrift store rejects most girls have). How did this trend get started in the first place?

I hate overly long skirts, they look less lolita and more grandmother.

>>7733527
The western cult-party obsession with peignoirs

>>7733537
Thanks! I can't keep up with any of the other J fashions to save my life.

>>7733512
boo hoo your outfits actually have to match

>>7733457
He reminds me of Kyubey, idk why.
>>7733373
I know have questionable tastes but i love skeleton tights in the right coord.
>>7733294
I think these stupid ageplay jokes are created only for baiting and generate drama.
>>7733533
This this this.
Infact, the thing i would like to disappear from Lolita are these underskirts or also JSKs/OPs who reach past knees and look more something mori/aristocrat/whatever than acutal lolita. Just hideous.

>>7733348
>You can't argue "It's a fashion not a costume!"
This argument is stupid. Bonnets were first and foremost a leading fashion trend in the time periods which lolita is inspired by.

>>7733555
probably the red eyes and long ears

>>7733315
that poof tho

Teaparties, they look like shoes for infants.

Just the entire sweet lolita substyle (not the old school kind, the newer OTT kind with border prints, decora, and pastel overload). It's completely distinct from gothic and classic, and I wish there would just be an official split.

Not to mention that most sweet lolitas look like clones.

Not saying people should stop wearing it (I wish it would just disappear, but y'know, political correctness and all), but I do really, really want sweet lolita and gothic/classic to be treated as the completely different styles they are, instead of as one big fashion.

>>7733587
I agree with this so much. I hate telling people I wear lolita because the first thing that pops up with "lolita fashion" will always be sweet AP clones.

Also OTT/crazy prints look like a fucking costume

>>7733587
>just one item

Flat toddler shoes

>>7733601
I agree so much with this.
I got told by a sweet that I'm not lolita because I'm not all bows and lace. I'm fucking classic, I don't need that shit all over the place

Petti coats, ahahaha!

Real answer: under the knee socks

I have a long list, but I'll go with item number one: animal ears.
There's a reason why people think you're wearing a costume and the reason is you keep wearing ridiculous shit on your head.

>>7733587
Mana's heard your prayers, this substyle is already dying.

>>7733652
lol sure

>>7733261
>heals

You mean heels, anon?

Wigs. Wigs are trash. Wigs only exist for inferior breeds who can't be fucked to learn how to style their own hair. Mostly cosplayers who go into Lolita.

Also why can't Americans spell heels? You need your feet to heal from bad spelling?

Mine would be printed tights..
I can tolerate the ones with simple or floral patterns, but if there's text, I hate it. It looks bad to me. If there's too much detail on them, I hate it. Your legs shouldn't have that much focus.

>>7733677
I have super curly hair and styling involves, a spray bottle of water, leave-in conditioner, gel, non tangling hair clips and prayer. I can't heat style because that makes it drier and frizzier than it is. Anon, some of us have shit tier hair and styling does nothing.

pic related, my hair has a similar texture.

>>7733677
Except I enjoy having short, pastel-coloured hair with my regular fashion, and that doesn't go with lolita at all?

>>7733677
nice try

>>7733695
if it's that long and full it would look amazing with lolita omg. personally I feel there are plenty of loliable hairstyles for every hair type, you just have to be willing to commit. the wigs are kind of a lazy cop-out a lot of the time

>>7733360
>costumey. costumey costumey. abloobloo

Let me remind you that while bonnets were a part of historical fashion, so were petticoats. It is 2014 and nobody fucking wears petticoats anymore unless you're a square dancer, getting married, or it's for a costume.

I hate the word costumey being flung around in a fashion like this. If you want to look normalfag, lolita is not the fashion for you. Sure, you can tone it down, but someone out there is still going to assume you're in a Mary Poppins cosplay for "comic con".

>>7733711
i politely disagree

>>7733711
My hair is two inches long on top and buzzed on the sides and back. Please tell me how I'm supposed to make it lolita-friendly without a wig.

>>7733711
lol, you clearly don't have curls. It looks like that for about five minutes, then it quickly devolves into a frizzy mess. Curls don't stay perfectly coiffed and neat unless you use a metric fuckton a hair gel.

>>7733711

Tell that to a cancer survivor now, will you?

>>7733739

>>7733721
I kind of want to see that with punk lolita, but you'd be limited to death because it's nearly impossible to make that work in pretty much any other style.

This wigfag butthurt is hilarious.

>>7733261
>stuffed animal bags/purses
nothing screams ageplay more than those.
Are you fucking kidding? I like cute animal bags and shit BECAUSE they're cute, not because I want daddy to fuck me. Jesus, anon.

>>7733752
I think the discomfort someone feels towards cute animal bags says more about the uncomfortable party than the person wearing them...

>>7733267
>>7733752
Darling, please learn how to quote.

>>7733761
Please learn how to greentext.
>autofixed

>>7733712
Look, a petticoat is under a dress. It provides structure. Worn well, that's all it does. It creates a nice silhouette. That's not too far out there. And alternative fashion does not automatically mean costumey. I hate that false correlation. Most alternative fashion doesn't look like a fucking costume. Out of the ordinary? Definitely. It's not anyone's fault that bonnets remind people of costumes. It's no one's fault people think of cartoon babies and period pieces when they see bonnets. Or dog cones for that matter. But it's there.

Finding bonnets to be a little ridiculous looking isn't the same as "wanting to look like a normalfag". Do you think in extremes all the time? That sounds exhausting. I wasn't even aggressive, nor did I end up saying I wanted them eliminated.

I second berets. They just aren't feminine and even in classic coords bows and and other head accessories look much better. I like them in otome though.

>>7733512
Agreed. I miss oldschool.

>>7733774
I really love bonnets but I agree it's borderline costumey. I also don't wear wigs and circle lenses for this reason.

>>7733677
i like you anon

I love this thread so much! Hold on, I'll make some popcorn.

>>7733582
THANK YOU

>>7733677
Personally, I use wigs because I can't dye my hair 'cause it's only just started getting better after years of heat torture as a teen. Also, it's 3a-type curly and it's hell to take care of like it is for >>7733695.

>>7733739
lol anon nice try but it is obvious that they are talking about people with disgusting constantly greasy mousy brown frizzy hair.

>>7733721
Many people I know with unusual haircuts/colors invest in a good natural looking wig for job interviews and other occasions where they need to have normalfag hair. I believe the same should be done if you're serious about lolita and can't pull off the hairstyle for some reason. However, my main pet peeve isn't with mohawk lolis, it's with people who think that they need to color coord their wigs with their shoes, and it ends up looking shit tier anime quality.

Pastel Aquafresh colored twintail wigs

>>7733721
Similar situation. I have short hair which makes for a nice modern look on normalfag days, but it just clashes so much with classic lolita aesthetics.

All my wigs are the same colour as my hair, just longer and curlier so it looks like I just grew it out. But yeah I agree, colour-matching your wigs to your coord seems a bit much.

Sorry, but all these wig excuses sound like "blablablah I can't style my hair because I'm too lazy" to me.

>>7733565
Maybe Usakumya is a Kyubey in disguise?

>jellyfish
It's fucking gross, not elegant.

>crazy art prints
jetj I'm looking at you. your entire line of fashion lately has been fucking TRASH. If I wanted to look like a 14 year old girl who just discovered alphonse mucha via pinterest I'd just print out the photos and iron them onto a bodyline dress.

>star hair clips
can we get over this shit already

>crazy decoden item
cute simple whip frosting looking rings are nice, but I do not need baskin robins' entire menu on my fingers or in my hair.

>hideous animal bags
not even the stuffed animal ones, but those ugly photo realistic bags. That shit does NOT belong in lolita.

>Black + Blue combos
Can we just fucking bury mana already? what a garbage bag.

>Flower headbands
Tone that shit down. You don't need a literal garden on your head.

in the same vein

>Madonna crowns
what the fuck is this even. Sorry I don't want to get my eye poked out. at least trim that shit DOWN

>Maxi pad headdresses
No, you aren't going to "bring them back"

>OTT Sweet
You look like a fucking ageplayer.

>pussybows

>doe eye make up
especially if you're white. your eyes are already large, stop lining half of you bottom lid with a pure white liner

>salopettes
only when people try to pass it off as lolita. no way does a salopette ever have a fucking lolita shape you big tittied goofy looking bitch

>gold shoes

>pearl crowns
this is not 2009

>white lace topped socks

>extremely printed tights
oh cool there is some giant scenery on your fucking crotch? COOL. GREAT USE OF FUCKING INK THERE.

>>7733900
you sound a bit sandy

>>7733900
I think you should pick another style to follow..

>>7733929
you sound tacky

>>7733695
Because other people don't require effort at all amirite

>>7733701
>>7733717
>>7733721
>>7733833
Inferior breeds

>>7733900
>just one item

>>7733900
so... you don't like lolita?

>>7733897
so what? Just because someone doesnt feel like spending a huge amount of time on their hair when they're just going out in a simple outfit, so they put a wig on, who cares? Of course people would want to go the fucking easy way out. Get off your silly little pedestal.

>>7733966
>specific items
>"OMG U DUN LIEK THE ENTIRE FASHUN???????????"

please stop being retarded for about 10 seconds.

>>7733897
How can you rationalize a wig being lazy? A wig still requires styling. If you're putting on an extravagant outfit with fitting makeup, why would you settle on having hair that grows out of your head that doesn't match when there are more fitting substitutes? Sorry, do you think people who wear makeup in lolita should grow different faces? Is makeup lazy too, since it's the easy way to change your appearance?

What's "lazy" is settling on having hair that doesn't match your overall look instead of investing in a wig to solve that problem.

>>7733897
how's the air up there on your high horse

Anyone who wears creepers.

>>7733900
Why don't you like white lace topped socks? Just curious.

>>7733430
This (minus the bangs part, just all these poodlehat wigs in general)

>>7733970
So what part of lolita do you like then? Just curious

>>7733900
> If I wanted to look like a 14 year old girl who just discovered alphonse mucha via pinterest
The irony here is JetJ is one of the brands who hasn't done Mucha yet.

>>7733973
The problem with wigs is most people DON'T style them and yes, that is lazy.

>>7734023
are you trying to say lolita is ONLY jelly fish and madonna crowns? pls be less stupid

>>7734031
you're casting aspersions now.
i'd like to know too. you're not a sweet obviously.

Petticoats.

>>7734046
hi bait

>>7734026
not mucha specifically but that whole "I appreciate ~*real art*~" attitude kids get. Cherub prints over an entire bottom of a skirt is ugly and tacky as fuck

Not to mention jetj goes down the road of that kitschy-retard route and comes out with the kawaii kitties in cameo frames that just looks like a photoshop disaster on a dress.

jetj went so fucking downhill its embarrassing

>>7733857
>people who think that they need to color coord their wigs with their shoes

That makes me sad.

>>7734031
Not at all, I'm just curious about what you do like about lolita.

>>7734035
no, i listed specific items that are pretty hideous. you can create any substyle coord without any of those items (other than OTT style in general)

again, pls be less stupid.

>>7734063
> can't list what they actually do like
Okay.

>>7734056
if it helps, literally no one actually does that

>>7734065
does it matter? what i like isnt the subject of this thread. it's about shit you wish you could eliminate

sorry you had a coord planned with gold shoes and an anon on the internet got you real upset because they said its ugly

>>7734071
But you can't even list a few things you do like about lolita?

>>7733257

>>7734071
We just want to know what you like in lolita. It can't be that hard, considering you just made a long-ass list of what you hate.

>>7734080
FUCK!
THIS. SO MUCH.
Why do people even..? Ugh

Split wigs of any kind can fuck right off. They always look bad. I've never in one instance seen them look good. I'd much rather have a wig with the two colors mixed than have it split down the center.

And if you dye your hair like a split wig you're retarded too.

>>7733555
I would fucking kill for a kyubey backpack like that.

I mean, they probably already exist, but I want one now.

>>7733582
I think teaparties look more like clown shoes than anything else.

>>7733897
My hair is insanely thin but there's an obscene amount of it. It's at shoulder length, but it won't hold any styling without enough product to make it look like plastic. I've been a performer for 10+ years and not even my veteran coaches could ever make it stay in anything but a ponytail or a braid. My hair isn't very loli-friendly.

>>7734078
>>7734084
They probably can, they just don't want to.

/cgl/ is a place to rant, not rave.

Give me 20 things you like about Dakota Rose or Venus Angelic right now within the next 20 seconds. What's that? You don't want to and don't see the fucking point? Good, now you know how annoying you guys sound.

>>7734078
>>7734084
>thirsty bitches this buttmad about a list in a thread about personal taste

I'd remove all the bitches complaining about wearing prescription eyeglasses with a coord. I understand if they're huge and brightly colored and nasty looking, but I've been bitched at just for WEARING glasses, and I have small half-framed lenses in a neutral color.

Sorry I'm fucking blind, sand-chans everywhere.

>>7734098
we rave about stuff we like here too.
you better be a damn good lolita if you're so salty about what others are doing.

>>7734112
>accuses me of being salty about what others are doing
>mfw you're the salty one
>mfw I'm not even complaint anon

>>7733873
I just hate twintail in general.

>>7734100
I've never even done or worn most things in her list, but some of them are just not specific enough to be a whinge.

For example:
>>Black + Blue combos

Like, what?

I was just curious as to what she actually does like about lolita, considering a lot of the things in her list are pretty lolita specific. Why can't she even list only just a few?

>>7734112
Also quit derailing the thread.

>>7734132
> Why can't she even list only a few?
It's like she's just spewing out every single item she heard other people didn't like just to be edgy.

>>7734132
Because it's a complaint thread, genius.

Why do you care so much about one person's opinion? So she hates a lot of things. I'm sure you hate a lot of shit, too. Why don't you list some shit? Go make a happy bullcrap thread and take your shit out of here. Stop clogging up the thread.

>>7734142
There aren't a lot of things I hate that are lolita specific, though.

>>7734146
Then what are you doing here?

Derailing, that's all you're doing so far.

>>7734132
>>7734141
so you're mad that someone hates things in a thread about hating things and you want them to prove their loli-worth by posting things they like. In turn you'll make fun of the things they like and think you are being clever by listing them as things you hate to make them feel bad

That'll get her!

>>7734148
>If you could eliminate just ONE item from Lolita
>ONE

>>7734149
Not at all, it was just a simple question, I wasn't going to do anything of the sort.

>>7734149
Is that what you believe is happening here? Man, you muse think the world revolves around you or something. How dare someone be just curious and not looking to make fun of you!

>>7734055
If you really appreciate art, you will know JetJ is deprecating those paintings by using a small resolution photo and blowing it up so large on their dresses
>c'est moi totemo artisan desu oui non??
>pixelated dresses evrrrrywhere

>>7734154
You think THAT'S derailing?

How is telling her to post things she likes NOT derailing, then? Fuck off already.

>>7734165
No, you asked:
>Then what are you doing here?
And I said:
>There aren't a lot of things I hate that are lolita specific, though.

ITT

Anyway...
Peignoirs they look so fucking ridiculous.
>I am thinking of making it shorter I just didn't have enough time to customize it before yesterday
>Thank you! It's one from Victoria's secret from quite a while ago
Okay then.

>>7734170
This doesn't sound like it's the thread for you then. Fuck off.

>>7734185
What part of:
>There aren't a lot of things I hate that are lolita specific, though.
And
>If you could eliminate just ONE item from Lolita

Do you not understand?

If you can't even name a single thing you LIKE about lolita, why are you even on /cgl/ to begin with?

>>7733257
I would eliminate chunky shoes.
shit's hideous, i don't care how big your dress is.

>>7734182
That could look cute but... it doesn't.

I'm trying to think of things no one has postd yet and
>Silver wigs
I just don't think it looks good on anyone.

>>7734063
They asked you a specific question and you kept avoiding it so at the end you could say "it doesn't matter".

Looks to me that the stupid one here is you.

Replicas (print and design)

They are so fucking tacky and it's embarrassing that they're so accepted.

>>7733900
What don't you like about pussy bows?

>>7734176

>>7734200
To be honest I've only ever seen them openly accepted by people who dress pretty shitty themselves so they're not really "accepted" much in that sense I guess?

Speaking of which, has anyone who is relatively e-famous or well dressed ever openly admitted to wearing replicas or buying them and such? I honestly have no idea.

>>7734205
Princess Peachie? Although her reasoning makes absolutely no sense.

>>7734218
What was her reasoning?

>>7734205

Peachie had a replica at one point, said she was 'amazed' by the quality of the dress.

Then again, she doesn't know much besides bodyline, so I guess she doesn't know much.

>>7734220
She is too tall for brand (namely AP) being 5'5". And yet she fumes about tumblr art theft.

>>7734224
>Peachie had a replica at one point
uhhh she has half a dozen at least. All her prints that aren't bodyline are replicas. Except the dream fantasy one, that's her only real brand.
>>7734225
lol that's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. 5'5" is only too short for their shortest releases. Everything she has a replica off would be perfectly fine on her.

>>7734243
H O L Y L A N T E R N PLS RERELEASE FOR TALLER SIZE.

>>7733587
Uh, you know sweet isn't all pastel shit, right? I don't really like the OTT trend, but there's more to sweet than just OTT and old school/

>>7733509
>3b-3a type curls
Your hair is fine, poofy/curly is perfect for sweeter styles.

Stop pushing that "bad hair" shit. I know your ass is black.

>>7733261
I hate the cat bags with the upside down faces

That's so fucking stupid to me

>>7733730
>>7733717
>>7733695
>mfw apparently I'm the only person with super curly (4a) hair that actually likes it

Y'all motherfuckers need some self-esteem. Like this kind of hair wouldn't look good in lolita.

>>7733587
>Wish an entire substyle away
>Not saying people should stop wearing it!!!!1111

Are you retarded or something?

>>7734301
Seriously. I'm so happy with my hair now. Once I read some books about how to care for curly hair, it took a good three years for it to sort itself out from what I was doing to it. I wonder if those girls are just in the in between phase?

>>7734098
I'll give you 20 things I like about them when you give me 20 things you live about lolita you autistic faggot

>>7734201
I never heard them referred to as "pussy bows" before.

>>7733949
How boring. Ken M does it better.

>>7733897
Someone has never had a bad hair day.

>>7734301
It's not just you anon! Self esteem and a better care regime/ products. I've finally tamed the curls and it's great. Products meant for black kinky hair also work well on shitty Jew frizzy curls. I'm down to one curl cream.

>>7734308
That might be it. I'm in the first year of transitioning but it's not as bad as the other girls since my hair has light curls (2C style curls).

>>7734340
Bad as in too frizzy and stuff. It didn't give me a big poof like my friend's hair, for example. Hers is tighter ringlets.

>>7734313
I'm not trying to be a bitch...but how old are you?

I could honestly do without the excess bows. I quit lolita back in '06 and got whiplash when I came back this year to all the bows.
I love bows as much as the next person, but it was a surprise with how many are put on dresses these days.
Personal opinion of course.

>>7734344
It could be a regional thing anon.

>>7734055
I agree with you man. JetJ went from god tier to shitty shiny polyester sweat sacks covered in pixelated shit with shitty Frenglish pasted on top. And I even like polyester.

>>7734205
Cadney. She use to own a Milk Planet replica, if I'm not mistake

>>7734389
Good one, I'd like to remove Cadney too.

>>7733555
Usakumya has been around longer than Kyubey you weeb. Characters styled after albinistic rabbits look similar? Omg wow!

I wish we could get rid of all the weebs, or at least the ones in my comm. If you can't talk about this fashion without referencing anime all the time you need to leave. It doesn't help that they are also the ones with those costumey twin-tail wig-helmets.

Those sheer asymmetric over skirts (the tail ones) bother me so much since they're worn with pieces with an even hem. It's so mainstream.

There's more that bothers me but they've been mentioned.

>bodyline shoes*
Everyone seems to think they look perfectly fine but most of them look dull and frumpy to me.
*RHS and those classic mary jane pumps are ok

>>7734400
holy shit what is with all of the sand in this thread.

You are talking about a semi-obscure Japanese street fashion, but anon thinking that usakumya and kyubey look similar (which they do) and being reminded of one by the other is the weeby thing?

Fucking hell.

>>7733701
>"b-but I only wear lolita as a costume!"

>>7734202
maginfique

>>7734128
this.

>unstyled/untrimmed wigs

I don't mind if the wig is designed to have side-swept bangs, but pinning an untrimmed fringe to the side or wearing a wig's part in the middle drives me up a fucking wall.

Trim the fringe, damn it. There are literally dozens of tutorials out there on how to do it.

>>7734546
Honestly though trimming the fringe on that is not going to make it look less shitty. There's no savin that wig or any wig like it.

>>7734566
Trying to find other examples, and most offenders seem to be the ones wearing GLW/similar twin tail wigs. Having a hard time finding non-twin tail wig wearers doing it, though I know I've seen it happen.

Same could be said about how people don't have the right figure for lolita, face for lolita.

>>7733332
AGEPLAYYY!!!
FUCKING AP STANDS FOR AGEPLAY
CLASSIC IS SUPERIOR
AND I WILL REMIND YOU THIS IN EVERY BEHIND THE BOWS TILL THE DAY YOU DIE

(not even that anon)

>>7734627
What are you even replying to? I hope you're not crying discrimination on people who think that skeleton tights and twin tail clown wigs look like shit. You could just, you know, buy a good wig.

>>7733486

>>7734666
It was to this, sorry. It's just people crying how they don't have the 'hair' for lolita, which relates how alot of people do NOT have the figure for lolita fashion in the first place and still try.

And you could just, you know, not 'lolita' in the first place.

>>7734301
Not liking how your hair looks with a particular and very restrictive fashion isn't the same as not liking it at all. Half of those anons said they take really good hair of their hair, it just doesn't suit lolita. Which I personally agree with.

>>7733587
>using the photo of intentional twining/cloning
>they all rook the same!!11!
No shit anon. Pic related.

I would eliminate lolita and other jfashion crossovers that are so popular right now. I don't care how snowflake-y you are, ~dolly kei lolita~ or ~mori lolita~ is fucking stupid and will never happen.

>>7734804
>2/4 pictures are of the same girl in the same outfit
>"look dis what all classic look like"
I hope nobody fell for that.

>>7734816
If you can't see I was exaggerating on purpose you're an idiot anon. I like classic, as well as other substyles, I just don't like sandy cunts like OP.

>>7733315
>They can look really nice when done right
pic not related, right?

>>7734750
>they take really good hair of their hair
Lel

>>7734303
I think she was saying that sweet should be like it's own fashion separate from lolita, rather than a lolita substyle.

>>7734301
I have hair like that. I like it, Other people like it, I wear it down often.

But I have been told repeatedly that it doesn't work with lolita. Not saying I agree, especially when the balance of hairstyle size works with the outfit, but maybe others have been told this and have also not seen many examples of hair like this worn properly with lolita.

>>7734821
Notice how I said
>I hope nobody fell for that
as in "I see what you did there" as opposed to actually raging. Way to run around calling random bystanders idiots though. You're 100% the more mature person in this argument so four for you glen coco.

>>7733900
>doe eye make up
>especially if you're white. your eyes are already large, stop lining half of you bottom lid with a pure white liner
Real doe eye makeup doesn't look like that garbage you degenerate.

this thread

>>7734301
I love my pastel green 4a hair, but shit just would not fly with my classic/gothic influenced classic.

One thing I would get rid of is this mentality that you have to have SOMETHING on your head, otherwise your coord is 'unbalanced.' It's always the newbie armchair lolitas that think if your head is bare, your coord is unfinished.

>>7734834
>It's always the newbie armchair lolitas that think if your head is bare, your coord is unfinished.
mylittleanoncan'tbethisnew.png

>hurr durr ageplay
nuff said

>>7734828
Bitch with shitty makeup detected

>>7734829
2nd

>>7733677
>>7733897
I'm ok with natural colored wigs. But I hate pastel or other crazy colors. They help the costume-y look and they should be burned.

brand main piece with shitty offbrand pieces. makes the coord look cheap. 70% of lolitas do this because they would rather invest only in getting brand main pieces.

>>7733677
>who can't be fucked to learn how to style their own hair

Or maybe you should try missing out on the genetic lottery and having thin, frizzy hair that never grows and has so many split ends that it can't barely be styled.

I hate these complaints.
>ewww wigs
>ewww makeup
>ewww heels
>ewww shapewear

Why are these always voiced by brats who obviously don't know what it's like to need these things to look normal?

>>7733665
*heelys

>>7735005
... Do I have assburgers? I'm not sure if you are being funny or if Americans really can't spell.

Babydoll dresses. They look like nightgowns and the silhouette is horrible.

>>7735024
Just because you're sandy that they don't work on you doesn't mean that they're automatically horrible

>>7735105
I've never worn one, no need to be so defensive.

Fucking white eyeliner and/or fake lower lashes FAR from your real lower lashes

It does not make your eyes look bigger.
It does not make your eyes look bigger.
It does not make your eyes look bigger.

It only makes you look retarded, like a little kid who tries mommy's make up for the first time. It looks bad on asians, it WILL look bad on your already large western eyes.

OMG this thread is still live??? haaha I had so much fun last night.
>I hate X because it's shit
>No, you're shit!
>No, you're shit and your taste is shit!
>No, your taste is shit!
>repeat indefinitely

Never change, cgl!

>>7734875
People like that have straight ass-long hair naturally and think everyone else is just "not trying hard enough" to have pretty hair. Next time some captain obvious bitch tells me not to wash my hair I will punch her in the face.

>make up or high-heeled shoes make you look whorish
These people are either homely smelly brats with a unibrow, or they're twelve years old. Probably both.

>>7735010
They're the name of a brand of sneakers with roller skate wheel inserts in the bottom.

mini top hats

E-fame. So many hungry girls out there.

>>7734301
Pardon the intrusion but is this really you?
Damn bb if it is, you gotta tell which one of these expos you're going to next, I'm not going to lie I'll show up just to creep on you

..
>in a nonthreatening totally respectful way of course

>>7735177
I have straight and long hair, but I can't do anything with it. It doesn't have any volume and the last time I tried to curl it (and put a shit load of hairspray in it), my hair went back to flat within 15 minutes.

Suck because I love to tryout things with my hair.

>>7734804
So you're proving my point for me? Great. I hope you don't think that that's all classic is, though; you have serious lolita tunnel vision.

Oh, and just because you wear a "sweet" dress with an otherwise classic coord doesn't make the coord itself "sweet". The two on the left are sweet-classic at the most. The other sweet lolitas look like shit, except for maybe the second from the right. What's with the super short skirts? The ugly as fuck ankle socks? Yeah, you're just showing off the very stark differences between classic and sweet.

...god, the sweet lolita on the far right is such an ita. You have awful taste.

I just want to eliminate flower crowns from everything.

>>7735489
yeah but you can wake up in the morning and walk out of the door looking fine. some people have naturally bad hair and have to treat and style it up to two hours EVERY fucking DAY, and I don't want to be shat on by stupid bitches (not you obv) for wearing a wig or hair pieces


Cosplay wigs in lolita need to die though.

>>7735566
Hook, line, and sinker.

>>7735566
Anon go back and read the initial comments to that picture and then go rethink your choices.

>>7735593
I understood your point, I was just adding that even if your hair is straight the chances are that your hair is still shit.

I did forget that you have to treat your hair everyday and I don't, sorry about that.

And I second on the cosplay wigs.

>>7733570
she's just spinning or moving around. on pic related you can see how poofy it actually is and how retarded that peignoir actually looks

>>7735982
it still doesnt look too bad. maybe because it's an all white coord? usually people layer them over colored coords and it looks out of place and like absolute shit.

>>7734071
it's actually about ONE thing you could eleminate.

>>7736029
*eliminate

>>7736029
multiple one things. would you rather they made 12 different posts?

>>7736131
making a list is one thing, it's another to make a list with shitty reasons then bitch and moan when people don't agree.

>>7734205
I think Cadney said owned a replica in the past but I've never seen her actually wearing one. efamers are usually brand whores. Even if they mix in replica things it's shit too small for anyone to notice. Peachie is the only exception.

>>7734750
Wrong.

The people I replied to all implied, in some way or another, that they had "bad" hair. I hate that shit.

>my hair devolves into a frizzy mess
Mine did too when I didn't know what the fuck I was doing or when I was being super critical and nitpicky about my looks. Then I learned to back up and realize that my hair getting a little (or even a lot) crazy because it's humid doesn't dramatically change my looks.

>>7734826
Honestly, I'm really more referring to the people who feel like they need to jump on the curl-hate bandwagon.

>>7735299
It's not, I just have a lot of black girls in my folders. My hair is much kinkier.

>>7736131
you've got a point.

>>7734243
Yep. But that was her reasoning.
>she will never admit the truth that she likes quantity > quality
I wish she didn't get butthurt about art theft tho, because... hello, all your replicas?

>>7736208
Wait, do people actually steal her shitty art or does she just reblog one of those "art theft is bad" posts and adds a wall of whining?

>>7736153
so what? people would bitch and moan regardless if the reasoning was tacked on or not. some girls saw their favorite things on the list and would have bitched anyways.

>>7736179
Somehow I feel like all of the girls here who have pixie cuts/some other form of very short hair can safely argue their hair is wrong for lolita. An issue that isn't as simple as "take better care of it!!"

It'll never look suitable for lolita and hair doesn't grow quickly enough to argue that as the solution.

Giant headbows. They never look good. The only time they even look proportionate or balanced is if their worn with giant poodle hair.

>>7736303
sort of related

I hate any head accessory that requires you to tie it under your chin. It makes you look like a giant baby.

>>7736131
> black and blue coords
That within itself is multiple things.

Fucking flowercrowns... Despise them with a burning passion. Not like the whole 'OH its such a stupid fad STOOOUUP' but my mom used to take my sisters and I to renaissance festivals when we were little and she'd make garlands (WHICH, FYI IS WHAT IT'S FUCKING CALLED, NOT FUCKING 'FLOWER CROWNS' YOU AUTISTIC FUCKS) and I used to love them. I wore them all the time because it reminded me so much of my mom and that made me really happy. But then it started becoming a fucking fad and now everyone is fucking wearing one thinking they're hot shit and just holy shit. You 'fashionista' fuckers ruined a good part of my childhood. Fuck you in every way possible Tumblr.
/end rant

I know I sound salty and I don't even fucking care. They took something I used to love and had a big nasty shit on it.

>>7736331
why wouldnt you just tie it under your hair
that way, no distracting straps or that unfortunate double chin effect it has on a lot of girls

>>7736438
A color combination is one thing

>>7736528
It's gotten to the point that just reading the word "flower crown" makes me cringe, no joke. It's such an ugly fucking word duo, I bet now you will cringe too if you don't already

>>7736438
I interpreted that as something like Iron Gate's black x navy colorway.

>>7736528
i'm sorry a fad ruined something that made you happy.

>>7736528
I know your feels Anon. When I was little my grandma would babysit me and I'd help her garden and she taught me how to tie garlands. We'd make garlands and then we'd go inside for afternoon tea and she'd let me wear mine and pretend to be a princess. I miss her so much ;_;

>>7736528
>people like things I like now!

Special snowflake alert.

>>7736836
What's that? Is that..
Is that the sound of someone who likes flower crowns? Because I could swear, I hear someone who likes flower crowns. Like someone with no taste, sobbing very loudly.

Such a sweet sound.

>>7736854
I don't need to like flower crowns to know a pretentious twat when I see one.

>>7733564
which SOME lolita dresses are inspired by. it's not a stupid argument, it makes sense. not all dresses are ott or victorian/rococo inspired.

>>7736836
>>7736854
don't like flower crowns either, but yeah, you sound really butthurt

>>7733721
Maybe you shouldn't have cut it like that dip shit.

>>7733695
Three words.
LEAVE IN CONDITIONER
Problem solved.
Mine is frizxier than that and I've always made it work. Natural curls look great in lolita.

>>7733267
>fermented pube garden

Bows that stick up like
>>7736303

Its just...mimicky, cheesy, try-hard, awkward to me, Idk it's hard to explain but I hate them.

black colorway Sugary Carnival

>>7733695
tigi catwalk curlesque
>>7736984
she said she uses it

Baby bonnets.

I love bonnets but when they're more...historical. When they're the baby kind, like AP always puts out its disgusting.

>>7737025
She needs a different kind or put MORE

>>7737034
do you mean soft bonnets

Holding fucking stuffed animals like they're a prop. They're less annoying even as freaky bags, because at least the bags hold a purpose. But when people hold a teddy bear or stuffed animal for no good reason (if you just bought it at con, that's understandable. If you made the effort to bring it and pose with it, that's stupid as fuck), it just looks stupid and tryhard.

Petticoats that are too full under baby doll dresses.

Actually petticoats under baby dolls in general.

Makes you look preggers.

>>7737039
Yes floppy baby bonnets.

Fat girls who use their fat as a petticoat/think they don't need a petticoat.

>>7737054
Theyre called soft bonnets
and they are just as historical as hard brimmed bonnets. Maybe not in pastels, but they were worn a lot
just say you dont like them because they remind you of ageplay or something, dont come up with some bogus excuse.

>>7733297

>>7737070
I'm no expert but I know my historical fashion, I've never seen floppy baby bonnets being worn by not a baby.

>>7734679

Only because we haven't yet invented fake faces that we can pass off as our own the way some girls have nice wigs that can pass as real hair.

So far all the arsenal we've got to mitigate ugly faces are contouring techniques, falsies, and circle lenses, and we're already abusing those above and beyond "wear some makeup to match your dress" level.

>>7735209
I hate these so fucking much. I've seen so many otherwise fine lolitas add a shitty dinky craft foam mini top hat to their coord and it's just like why? You're now officially the same tier as steampunk-styled Whovians, you are seriously no better anymore.
> Pic related, this is you. This is what you look like when you wear a mini fucking top hat.

>>7737092

Then you don't know your historical fashion as well as you think you do, womens dress bonnets were often soft bonnets with a short brim.

>>7737034
I don't like bonnets at all. They always look super costume-y and ugh.

>>7733257
>I never see them coorded in a way that is not hideous.
they would match that we're all mad here bone dress pretty well

long underskirts outside of gothic/classic, they just look so out-of-place on sweet

>>7734804
is the girl on the far left wearing the sash as a headpiece...??

>>7735982
the ugly poodle bag bothers me more than the peignoir

>>7737166
But not like the kind AP generally puts out.

>one thing you would eliminate
wristcuffs. sometimes I think i'm the only sweet lolita who doesn't like wristcuffs

>>7737190
I find them to be super practical. They're great during the summer, they keep the sun out of your head and keep you cool.
Like a cap, but cuter.

>>7737250
Is it because you're too fat for them?

>>7737257
lol no I just don't like how they look. How could you be too fat for wristcuffs, they're elastic..?

>>7737260
Oh they have a limit.

>>7737260
Pinkzombies was, she had to refund a girl she sold her wristcuffs too as they were so deformed after she wore them

>>7736219
>reblogs one of those "art theft is bad" posts and adds a wall of whining
This, and people steal her "tumblr friend's" art and then she posts about how terrible it is on facebook. Once she was like "Well lolita brands are big businesses so they can afford it, but indie artists have nothing so it is wrong!"
All my wat.

Over accessoriesing

>>7737250
Me too. They look out of the place.

>>7737199
Nah, that's one of the headpieces for that series.

>>7737325
oh, i've only ever seen the headbow and bonnet, my bad

>>7733629
Classic to me is the least lolita looking lolita IMO, gothic and sweet have that distinct look and shape but classic just looks more like someone trying to be fancy or old school or some shit, but hey, everyone is different.

>>7733652
i never understand when people say sweet is dying because its so incredibly popular like half my comm is sweet lol

Those stupid little stuffed star clips

Ugly white girls

>>7737476

you?

This thread is a good reminder that no matter what you do someone will be a grumpy bitch about it so you should just never listen to /cgl/ and wear whatever the fuck you want.

>>7737492

no, I'm not ugly nor am I white.

>>7737492
Why would a white girl even say that, moron?

>>7733497
Why would they fix a typo originally made by a person they were quoting and insulting?

>>7737450
I always find it funny that people think Fanny Rosie is so god tier when most of her co-ords implement so much vintage influence that they aren't even lolita anymore, yet she still tags them as such and people still praise her. Lots of her actual classic co-ords are beautiful, but I really don't like all of the 50's granny outfits she wears and calls lolita.

>>7737282
Don't try to find logic, she just does what she wants but isn't smart enough to rationalize it properly.

>>7737621
Fanny rosie is god tier because she transcended above lolita. Lolita isnt hard to put together yet people fail easily. Do yall dress like shit in regular clothes, too? There is minimal difference

>>7737621
I'm going to have to agree with you. No matter how much experience a lolita has, there are still rules, and Fanny for some reason doesn't follow them.

>>7737522
This. But sometimes if you look like literal shit, you look like shit so dont deny it. The point of Being fashionable is to look good, not bad. It matters

>>7737455
Same. Five years ago my comm was 80% gothic with maybe two or three girls who consistently wore sweet, but now every single newbie comes in wearing sweet and they've become the majority. Nothing against sweet but for some reason it's the first phase everyone here goes through when they get into lolita and that's just weird. I miss when gothic lolita was the norm.

OT though, I'm going to agree with those people saying wigs. Not nice natural-looking wigs to make up for lolita inappropriate hairstyles, but shit like this. If I could burn every single one of these wigs in existence (and the GLW HQ when I'm at it) I would.

>>7737630
I doubt fanny rosie calls herself a lolita anymore so you all should stop too because you still criticize her as one. She is whatever she wants to be and i think shes going the right way about things.

All the wigs
Can't people just be happy with their real hair ?

>>7737632
I think sweet will soon be replaced by something else. When everyone start to wear it is also when people start growing tired of it.

>>7737632
When I first got properly interested lolita I thought OTT sweet was the best thing since sliced bread, but I was literally about to buy my first coord when I realised that I don't like it and gothic is my true love.

I dunno why sweet felt like the default, especially since I still don't like it that much.

>>7737635
She tags a lot of her outfits as otome, but they're not really otome either. She's just wearing lolita in a 1930s - 60s sort of way, which is cool I reckon. She should try styling her hair in a vintage way but she'd probably have to cut a lot off.

>>7737639
GLW will start producing cheap Antoinette wigs and everyone will be making crappy handmade skirts with Joanne's teacup fabric, mark my words.
>moooom you don't understand this is CLASSIC LOLITA sheesh

>>7737655
It almost got to me to and it's just so weird. My first ever handmade lolita item was a hot pink apron with cupcakes on it. My favourite brands at the time were MM and VM but when it came to choosing fabric for my apron I still made a beeline for the sort of crap pinkzombies would love to make a muumuu out of. Why? It's not even like you see this sort of thing in the GLBs.

>>7737687
Forgot my picture.

>>7737691
>"Le blonde"
My jimmies have been rustled.

>>7737554
you'd be surprised with the white hating white sjws on tumblr

>>7733900
wow someone's sandy

>>7737455
Probably 80-90 percent of my comm is sweet.

>>7734182
Ok that DOES look fucking stupid. It's literally like she forgot to remove her dressing gown before leaving the house. How do people like this not get that the drop of a peignoir fucks with the lolita silhouette? You can barely see the dress underneath it, which was part of the charm of wearing VINTAGE peignoir (not fucking Victoria's Secret) in cult party kei, Is she that thirsty to jump on Tumblr bandwagon fads?

>>7736528
>Being this enraged about a Tumblr fad
>Muh speshul garlund!!

You sound 12.

>>7737635
She does, she tags all of her posts with it. Pic related is from the first page of her tumblr, is tagged as lolita, and looks like shit even if it wasn't supposed to be lolita.

>>7737687
>>7737691
>>7737746
Oh god, I can just see it. Terrible half-assed French put on any big wig with curls galore and any hint of a pompadour. They'll make a line of wigs and call it "Neo Rococo" or something.

Everything with be tagged with "le" to make it seem more sophisticated, but instead it'll look like it's inspired from image macros.

Ribbon sashes. I associate them more with beauty pageants than royalty.

I could imagine ribbon sashes being useful, such as wearing them to mark yourself as staff at some sort of major lolita event (sort of like how staff at conventions have staff shirts).

But if you're just wearing a ribbon sash as an accessory, I can only imagine you as a winner of the vaguest pageant ever.

>>7733900
I made a co-ord for you anon.

Anyone else have more from the list than I do?

>>7738679
I think they could work better for lolita coords more inspired by military fashions?

>>7737691
Has no one else noticed the blatant photoshop cloned curls all around the wig edges to make it appear larger?..

>>7736528
I don't get people who think in this stupid way. I love it when things I like become trendy because
a.) they're easier to obtain
b.) if everyone else looks like shit I look awesome in comparison

You're the one letting other people liking what you like "ruin" it for you. You must not have liked them very much to begin with if other people liking them too is all it takes to make you this mad about it.

>>7733739
As an actual cancer survivor, don't you dare use me as a some pitying example. Wehhh, cancer survivors, wehhh.

>>7737002
stealing this