/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I don't like blouses with removable sleeves.

I hate when people wear shoes that border on being stripper heel huge with lolita. It just doesn't look good at all to me, I'm sorry.

>>7727688
I hate OPs that zip up on the side/arm hole instead of the back. Like, what's the point, is a hidden zipper THAT obtrusive?

>huge amounts of ruffles
They look bad on most OTT Btssb dresses already, but when people wear these long ass underskirts under their dresses... Nothing against a nice small underskirt, but these OTT calves lenght underskirts look awful, especially becuase you can always tell the dress is shorter than the underskirts suggests. Even Ranny Rosie could not pull this off.

>hating on plain coord
Nothing against a simple, well done (!) coord. No need to throw in a million accessoires, OTT headpieces, bows or whatever everytime.

>wigs
Nothing against wigs in general, but I wish we would return to accepting natural hair more. I dislike how wigs are now almost mandatory. Also people who spend 2+ hours on make up and $500 on a coord but cannot be bothered to learn some nice simple hair styles? Lazy.

>newfags flooding the forum
Seriously, how hard can it be to type in "Lolita Fashion" into google or use the links already provided?? Nothing more annoying than these newbies asking "Where can i buy a petticoat?? Where can I get a dress with a 100+cm waist??? Is Clobba a legit shop lol xD" over and over and over again.

the fact that putting a strap on ballet flats suddenly makes them A-ok.
why?

>>7727688
Knees. I cannot stand when knees are showing. They just throw everything off for me. They're bulbous and fleshy and just look odd.

Pictures of coordinates with shoes on dress.

>wigs
Eye brows of wig wearers not looking close to color of wig.
Their bangs bother me sometime.

Fucking rickrack. I love Magical Etoile but I can't bring myself to buy it because I hate the silver rickrack trimming so much.

>>7727710
It's so that you can zip it up yourself easier.

I hope circle lenses and OTT make up die down now that more classic styles are becoming popular. I know that's probably not going to be the case, but damn some girls go way overboard and it looks weird.

>>7727691
This. They look ugly with the sleeves and it still looks weird since it has the buttons on when they're not attached.

>>7727792
>Also people who spend 2+ hours on make up and $500 on a coord but cannot be bothered to learn some nice simple hair styles? Lazy.

Goddamn this.

I hate how my friend refuses to do anything with her limp thin hair when she wears lolita. One time I helped her with an intricate hairstyle (that she picked out) for a photoshoot meetup and we're not even there yet and she undoes it because ~she didn't like it~. Just wear a wig and be done with it.

>>7727688

flowers thrown in coords they are totally out of place in (like, donuts print and flower headpiece).
whichever kind of shoes leaving toes peeping out.
black/pastels mixed in solid coords.

>>7727876
But the buttons are on the inside...

>Not cutting wig bangs/really obviously wearing a wig straight out of the bag
If you want to wear a wig, wear it, but make sure it looks presentable.

>People who forget that old school/simple co-ordinates exist
Yes, the point is that I'm wearing 4 inch platform Mary Janes, giant bell sleeves/peter pan collar, a rectangle headdress and knee socks with lace with Moitie, not tights and boots and a fucking flower in my hair.

>Socks over tights
just why?

but guys... what are tall people supposed to do...
>>7727838
you can't show your knees
>>7727975
but you cant hide your knees with tights and wear the matching OTK's
>>7727792
and you can't hide anything with an underskirt either

AUGH

>>7728015
we'll have to become hoverlolis.

that said my pet peeve is how short some dresses are (I'm looking at you AP) because it sucks when the one thing stopping you from buying a dress is knowing that it'll look awkward and short on you

>>7728015
Just wear tights. By themselves. Without the stupid matching socks that only come to calf length anyway

>>7728030
This. There's some nice tights out there, you could even design your own or screen-print a pair too.

Clunky chuncky lolita shoes that make everyone look short and stumpy. and when they're not clunky and chunky there's a 90% chance its got a stupid bow up front.

>Wigs
I just don't like wigs with really most any fashion in general. I can immediately tell when someone is wearing a wig, and they never look natural.

They make a great outfit look like a fucking costume.

Just take some effort and style your own damn hair

>>7728030
>>7728045
but sweet lolita. muh matching OTKs

>>7728105
I don't even care for matching OTKs.

>>7728055
I would agree with you on that about non-naturally colored wigs. However some people have hair that just doesn't work with Lolita, so i don't see a problem in wearing natural colored wigs.

>>7727792
>>hating on plain coord
>Nothing against a simple, well done (!) coord. No need to throw in a million accessoires, OTT headpieces, bows or whatever everytime.

This. I hate it when people insist that because an outfit is simple it's otome and not lolita. Outfits can fit into two styles. I've seriously considered making a ven diagram for this.

>>7728015
IW, JetJ, VM, Atelier Pierrot, Moitie, Meta, and Baby/AATP have all produced longer dresses. Unless you're like 6'10" or insist on wearing Angelic Pretty it's not difficult to find brand that is long enough *and* looks good on your height. AP is pretty much the only brand that hasn't produced dresses longer than 90cm or so (inb4 that fugly quinceanera dress thing with the removable ball gown skirt, I don't think anybody even bought that).
I'm 5'9" and this dress from IW is so long even on me, I had to be careful about not stepping on the hem every time I sat or bent down.

>>7728125
If you do make one, I'll be looking forward to it.

Not about lolita, but about ita threads in particular. Any time someone says something along the lines of:
>this is cute though, it's obviously not meant to be lolita, it just has lolita elements.

89% of the time it is most definitely not cute and most definitely tagged by or posted as lolita by the person in the photo.

>>7728015
Otome kei is very friendly to the tall. Plus ETC and JM socks are thigh highs on me and I'm 5'9.

>Overstuffed skirts
When your skirt moves with your knees, you've probably taken it over the top. Sometimes it looks like girls cut a solid cone out of styrofoam and shoved it under their dress instead of a petti that fills it out while still allowing for the fabric to drape.

>Prints with the word "Melty" in the name.
The last thing I want near my clothes is gooey crap. It brings up such an uncomfortable mental image.

>People who use stupid phrases in Lolita
"Pleasantly plump princess", "Oh-so-pretty dresses", "I'm channeling the beauty of the universe", "What an elegant tea party!" etc.
Stop. No. God is that ever pretentious/condescending. Talk to me like a normal person because I am normal.

>Bickering between cosplayers and Lolitas.
You do yours and I'll do mine. There's rarely any cause for intersection, the only thing these have in common really is that they both come from Japan. It's like comparing Samsung electronics with Hyundai cars because they both come from Korea. Why.

>>7728122
Thank you, anon. I'm one of these unfortunately-haired girls. I could try for hours to do my hair, and still just end up with a wretched style that ruins my co-ord and falls out after 20 minutes. Natural-looking wigs are my savior.

>>7728162
>I am normal.

>>7728147
Pet peeve about ita threads:
"she would look cute if she just changed her tights, shoes, wig, dress, blouse, added more accesories, had better makeup and got a better petti!"

>>7728175
Well visually no, I acknowledge that. But I'm not simple. People tend to talk to me as if I am, from the very start.

Book, cover, yadda yadda.

>>7728181
Oh god yeah this. It's like no fucking duh. Ita whiteknights will never make sense to me.

Yes those anions in the ita threads. Like shut up if it had those things it wouldn't be there. And my fave
>ita means it makes eyes hurt

Like WTF shit changes old school ita is different than the new shit being put out.

>>7728162
guess thats a wake up call for me, my skirts always move with my knees...

>>7728122
Ditto, thanks anon. I have a pixie-boy haircut, and while some people can make it work, I would personally never risk having an itsy-bitsy head in Lolita. Natural wigs are a godsend for shorties like me.

>>7728486
Also? Some peoples natural hair is just shit. Thin, greasy, prone to dandruff..... not everyone has good hair, even with all the styling in the world. I can understand not liking the laziness associated with wigs, but often it's better than the alternative.

>>7728141
/r/ing pics of said fugly AP dress. I've never seen it and Google isn't delivering. Probably because I don't know the name of it. I've used "angelic pretty long dress" and "angelic pretty ball gown"

>>7727838
I'm the opposite. Skirts just past the knees just make your legs look so awful. They look short, stumpy, fatter than they should, matronly--which doesn't suit the fashion. This is a personal pet peeve, though, and I'm well aware of it. It's not something I'd judge a coord on, but everything I own has to hit the right spot and at 5'0" that's uh, some effort.

>>7728022
>>7728141
I...I actually like AP so much because I'm a shortie

>>7727838
I feel the same about knees, but mostly because my own knees are ugly as fuck because I have toothpicks for legs.

>>7727858
>rickrack
every time I see that word I think that it's someone being retarded about the word "riffraff" until I read the context.

Also, a nitpick not for lolita, but for this board, because there seem to be a lot of people who do this shit:

I hate when people say things like "suppose to" (supposed to) and the like. I can't fucking stand it, and there are so many people who type things like that on this board. All sorts of little phrases like that which always seem to be fucked up.

>>7727838
Man, I thought I was the only one who kinda hated knees.

>>7728408
Idk, the nitpick thread exists for a reason and I feel like a lot of this "but it should be ita because I don't like it!" whining comes from being drama hungry. Kooters, PT, and the rest being offlimit has left some anons starving.

>>7728162
The first(small) meet I went to was really awkward because everyone else was so quite. It felt like I had to drag out conversation in order to get anyone talking.

In the end it was just me and the only other girl with an actual coord(though it was just BL it looked nice) who were talking. I didn't care about how they were all dressed more than the fact that when they did speak, it was overly polite *rori* speak.

I just want to hang out and make friends.

Hopefully the next one goes better. I'm already pretty shy, so I don't like being the one making all of the conversation.

>>7727698
>I hate when people wear shoes that border on being stripper heel huge with lolita. It just doesn't look good at all to me, I'm sorry.
THIS!! I also hate these ass huge platforms with super tall heels that look like hooker shoes coordinated with gothic lolita.
>>7727792
>huge amounts of ruffles
I get annoyed to see beautiful dresses ruined by past knee underskirt. I only like underskirts if the girl is tall and the dress is too short on her BUT the underskirt must reach knee length not "tea length". It's just plain ugly.
>plus the new BTSSB dresses in tea length or with loads of chiffon are hideous as fuck
>hating on plain coord
Also this. Well if someone want to dress lolita (or otome) at the grocery, she wont go with a wig, 1000 accessories, epic makeup and so on. Nothing wrong with a simple coord picture for that day.
>>7728109
>sweet lolita here
>wearing only sheer tights in spring/fall
I hate knee socks unless you use them with some good lace and same color tights (otherwise look ugly) plus i can't wear OTKs during spring/fall, i feel my feet burning.
>>7728526
Me too, i hate too long jsks/skirts.

Cotton. I hate plain cotton dresses, and especially hate cotton blouses. I understand why a lot of people love cotton pieces, they're easy to wash and wear, but they wrinkle like crazy. I also hate OTKs, but that's just personal taste.

Noob questions and flaky buyers/sellers also drive me mental.

>>7728517
Called "Crystal Princess Set"

1/2

>>7728646
2/2

>>7728643
I remember a simpler time where cotton was considered the pinnacle of quality lolita, haha. Give me that chiffon and "pear skin" polyester any day

>>7728652
To add a pet peeve to that - people who immediately think polyester = shit.

Most of mine have already been covered, but:
>retarded tryhard cutesy anything
I don't want to hear your fake voice, I don't want to hear how you're a super sparkly kawaiiii princess desu!!, etc. Same thing goes for the tryhard wannabe lifestylers.
>wigs seen as mandatory or better
I'd much rather see nicely (even plainly) done natural than a mediocre wig.
>fully shirred dresses
They look like shit, end of story.
>sweet shoes in a classic or gothic coord and vice versa (also people thinking that black = gothic)
It messes with the whole aesthetic, imo.

>>7728667
>sweet shoes in a classic or gothic coord and vice versa (also people thinking that black = gothic)
Can't agree with you more. Makes me cringe when I see tea parties with classic

>>7728652
I do too, but I'm lazy and hate ironing. I got enough of that when I was learning to sew. High quality polyester, blends, and chiffon are where it's at. I've never handled any of IW's pearskin pieces before, but I hear great things about it! Might have to try and get one come LP season, all my blouses are chiffon at the moment.

>>7728701
Usually IW polyester items with fancy or ridiculous names like pear skin, amundsen, sildue De chine or rose petal are gorgeous.

I can't stand OTT headwear. It's okay for bigger, fancier meets, but I swear, half the time when I'm out with my com it feels like pic related. Is this just an American thing, or do lolitas in other parts of the world try to put as much crap on their heads as they can?

>>7728761
I tone it down for meetups in public. But for fancy meets, or conventions I'm all for OTT. The bigger the con, the more OTT I get. I will go all out and put everything on my head including the kitchen sink (I have plans for a kawaii sink hair piece)

But I feel really weird when someone wears something insane when we're going out for a movie or out for lunch. I don't even feel comfortable wearing the matching headbow for most everything I own, and opt for simple bow clip or headband from a mainstream accessory store or something. Or I'll buy simple pieces from brands or indie shops.

>>7728408
>those anions in the ita threads
I agree, fluorine, chlorine, bromine, and all those others with a negative charge need to get out.

how DISGUSTINGLY HARD it is to find plain mary janes for under 60$

>>7728819
If I could find cute mary janes in size 11 for $60 I'll be over the moon

>>7728845
I'm trying to find white mary janes for an old school sweet coord.
I have not yet found one pair that exists for adults that is in stock in any store, in any size.
Tuck me in and let me die.

>>7728122
Agreed. My purple hair looks like shit in lolita. I'm ordering a wig after my bank account gets back to normal (damn you innocent world)

No nice backgrounds to take pictures of your lolita against...

>>7728845
>>7728896
Ebay harder, anons.

>>7728122
Mohawk anon here.

OTOME KEI =/= CASUAL LOLITA.

I am so fucking sick of seeing half-assed attempts at lolita tagged with "otome kei" and "casual lolita" at the same time, "casual lolita" is hardly a thing newfags can pull off anyway and "lazy lolita" is a much better term for this shit. And then there are those reblogging well-coordinated otome and tagging it with "casual lolita" and nothing else, god I can't fucking tell you how hard that grinds my gears.

>>7729124

Holy shit, thank you for saying this.

Otome kei is it's own entity. Stop fucking suggesting otome kei to itas, we hardly need another fashion inundated with special snowflakes who want asspats.

>>7729124
Eugh, there's so much crap in the otome kei tags. Plus people thinking any girly piece of clothing must be otome kei? No one seems to get the aesthetic.

>>7728646
Jesus christ AP

>>7728646
I was in japan when this was released. Still want that shorter version though.

>>7727937
Not all blouses have that.

>>7728646
>>7728651

>>7728550
I like my comm, but it's so weird to suddenly become a chatterbox when you're usually very reserved just because other girls are even quieter and more proper.
And I'm awful at small talk, so I suddenly realized I'm somehow telling them about Ed Gein and I saw their faces and man did I feel awkward.

And my peeves so stay on-topic:
>patterned everything
I don't know what is worse - mixing a ton of different patterns or having everything in polkadots/stripes/strawberries/etc. At least get some solid tighs or a simple cardigan to make it lighter and more balanced.
>not matching colors to your skintone
I love baby pink, but it makes me look like a freshly dug corpse, so I avoid it on big pieces. If a blonde wig makes your face look red just don't wear it instead of making excuses.
>'traditional' lolita platforms
I'm so glad to see them being replaced by more elegant regular heels. RHS are cool, but I cringe whenever I see a newbie in those giant-heeled platformed clown shoes.

>>7729285
Is it wrong that I think it's kinda cute, even if I would never wear it?

I have a few.

> Knee socks
They look so ugly to me, and not flattering on anyone. The only acceptable way to wear knee socks is when the top is covered by a long skirt.

>unnatural wigs
It has no chance of looking like hair, unless you shell out a lot of money.

>unflattering colors in general
Some people can't wear pastel, including myself. Know if you're one of them or not.

>not having your shoulders covered
If it's hot, wear an OP or a skirt/blouse combination.

>>7729420
me too anon although kinda scared it would be ankle length instead of floor on me

>>7729419
>>patterned everything
>I don't know what is worse - mixing a ton of different patterns or having everything in polkadots/stripes/strawberries/etc. At least get some solid tighs or a simple cardigan to make it lighter and more balanced.
I actually think that mixing in patterns is super cute, as long as the colors go well and it isn't too busy.

>>7729632
Mixing many colorful patterns works great in otome where the items itself are simple, there's very little accessories and the overall feel is light. But in lolita with all the ruffles and lace and bows and jewelery it's just too much, IMO.

Polka dots.

>>7729838
I really like pic related. I agree that sometimes it's too much, but not always imo

>>7727841
>Pictures of coordinates with shoes on dress.
oh my god this so hard.
the shoes have been on the outside ground
your dress easily probably ran you 100$+.
youre indirectly putting and 100$+ dress and the dirty outside ground. nasty.

>>7729879
This works because the print itself has a small polka dot pattern, and they're repeating that in the tights and cardigan (I know those are hearts, but the arrangement is the same). She simply carried a theme over from the print (vs. bringing in an unrelated theme)

I'm tired of people picking on mis-matching reds/blues/greens just for the sake of nitpicking.

there are times when you need to match the exact same tone of X colour throughout the entire outfit. There are also times where doing an analagous gradient will look good.

Only inflexible retards insist on having everything 100% totemo matchy matchy.

>>7729918
Related, but pictures of girls sitting on the ground in lolita. Whether it's a convention floor or outside in the grass, it's so horrifying to see.

>>7729124
i agree.
when i decide to dress more normally, but happen to use lolita pieces for a normalfag co-ord, i would only call it "lazylita" in my head.
if asked whether i'm wearing lolita, i will say no.
if asked whether i'm wearing otome, i will say no.

>>7729938
oh man this. It's one thing if it's a glaringly obvious difference (a coord that uses both a warmer pink and a more blue pink) but there is a lot more wiggle room than some of these critics give. I like to see color as a range, rather than exact colors.

I think a lot of these people that are latching on to colors like that are cosplayers turned lolitas. Since most anime and comics tend to use one same shade throughout all the pieces that use that particular color (makes things a hell of a lot easier to color). When in reality, matching colors is not so cut and dry.

>>7730006
>When in reality, matching colors is not so cut and dry
Thissssssssssssss

thank you

>want to make a lolita themed tumblr/zine kinda thing
>fucking every name with lolita in it is pedos
FFFFFF

>>7730053
here's some handy vocab for you anon.
lace
frill
ruffle
kawaii
cupcake
cameo
manasama
gosurori
antique
harajuku
tokyo
japan
fashion
bloomers
petticoats
poof

etc

>>7730058
I wanted to go with "Lolita Darling" and make a little cute header image as if that was the title of the "magazine". Kinda want to steer away from kawaii/harajuku cause that seems kinda weeby.

Not that lolita isn't weeby but you know what i mean.

>>7730006
This, but I also think it can be difficult for people to spot which nuances are at the same range, and that often results in pinks looking too orange and peachy next to each other. Color look differently against each other thus some colors might look dirty and such as.

>>7729950
yes, jfc. it really rustles my petti.
another thing is when you take a picture in an a really unfitting and out of nowhere place.

My pet peeve is people whining that brands not producing sizes for 300+ lb lolitas is "thin privilege." There's custom size indie, handmade, and some Bodyline, weren't they even going to start making size 8L?

>>7730347
One of my pet peeves is skirts that sit like your pic related. When there's drastic poof right around the waist and then just a straight downward drop without the skirt flaring enough.

Fucking peignors.
I hate them so much, they look stupid.

>>7730347

Isn't she still a minor and homeschooled or something? She seems a little sheltered. Her coords are very meh but she always looks so happy in them, so I'm happy for her.

>Put something up for sale on LSE
>Get tons of messages about the item
>Ask for paypal info and try to finalize the deal
>They stop responding

This happened at least 5 times in the past week. I can't stand awful buyers like that and LSE has tons of them. I understand if you change your mind about the item, but please let me know so I don't keep it on hold for you.

bump

>>7730561
well yeah nothing against the girl or anything, i dont even know her, it was just an example of an unfitting background ^ ^

>Say 'No Trades' in sale posts
>Get private message/comment
>Would you be interested in trading your A for my B

>>7730561
She seems like she's just having fun, and she looks pretty cute and acts really sweet online so eh, harmless.

Bows with belts that don't match. ESPECIALLY when the belt is some awful shiny satin and the fabric of the bow's body is a nice normal textured cotton. Like, what purpose could that possibly serve besides you being horribly lazy and not wanting to make a proper goddamn belt for your goddamn bow? (This is almost exclusively a handmade/homemade lolita thing) Even worse is when they don't bother at all with a proper belt, they just tie a string around it to make a bow-ish shape and be done with it. Also, I'm so sick of almost every etsy "kawaii" lolita shop, they all sell the same stuff. Ugly decoden phone cases, ugly melty glittery resin necklaces, it's so boring and everyone does it.

>>7730071

Please post this when you make it! I love blogs like lolitahandbook, but it never updates. And lolita-tips is run by someone who has no idea what she's doing.

>Puts on some black
>"NOW I'M GOTH

No.

>>7730561
>coords are very meh

Now, this is the first time I'm seeing this girl, and I don't mean to single out this anon specifically, but this is my pet peeve.
Unless a coord is extravagant, or yoonique, or just extremely creative, people are downers about it.
There's nothing wrong with just average coordinates. Most coordinates are average. The expectation now seems to be that even something simple and daily has to be super memorable and impressive.

>>7727688
> Boobloaf.
As a plus size lolita due to my bust (well not plus I'm a UK size 12 and I have rather large boobs) I'm like DD+ and when it comes to wearing lolita I have certain bra's to wear with it that help take away any boob loaf or I'll wear a cardigan to flatter my figure.
BUT I simply can not stand it when someone shoves on a dress without putting any effort into making it fit properly. They pull the shirring super tight, wear padded bra's or none at all and it looks like shit.

> Too much petticoat.
People always say "You can't have too much poof" urm no, shut up. Yes you can. I hate it when people have a beautiful coordinate with perfect poof then decide "not enough" and shove on 2 extra giant petticoats for good measure which make them look like an ageplayer or hover-loli

> Half arsed outfits.(not good casual, like literally half arsed)
You know those people who wear lolita in a casual style? No make up, no petticoat, maybe trainers or casual shoes, no effort, not even looking remotely slightly good looking? The kind of people who are 1 item away from looking ita as fuck? THEM! If you are going to wear such a fabulous fashion style WTF would you want to look shit in it? If you want to dress like your grandmother then be my guest. Just do not be shocked when no one wants to compliment your boring near ita outfit.

Continued

>Unresponsive sellers/potential buyers

EX I message someone about an item I want, but the price is just a bit more than I want to pay, so I ask for a small discount (think $5 on a $40 item). The message shows as read, the seller never responds. A simple no would've sufficed but instead this person is apparently so offended that I wanted that little discount that they can't even be fucked to respond.

OR, I put an item up for sale, someone comments asking if they can do a payment plan. I say ok, a few days go by, no word from the potential buyer. I ask them again if they're still interested, the message shows as read but they still don't respond. Again, another situation in which saying "no thank you I'm no longer interested" would've saved me some time, but this buyer is too chickenshit to do even that much.

>>7732332

> Plus size idiots who complain custom is too expensive.
Do not get me wrong I think as long as you put effort and time into a coordinate that works for your body you deserve the lolita title. However I hate plus size 18+ lolita's who Frankenstein 2 bodyline dresses together to make one hell of a mess. If your plus size PAY EXTRA to get a dress custom made to fucking fit you! If you wear a dress and you have more than 3 stomachs showing GTFO and try again. I hate when a plus size lolita says "OH I'd love to get a custom dress in my whale size but it cost 3 times as much so I'll just buy a dress that is too small and squeeze my body into it"
Boo fucking hoo, if you can't put down the fucking fork then pay extra for the fucking dress.

> Not wearing a blouse.
I do not care what excuse you have, if you are going to wear a JSK and call it lolita you better be wearing a god damn top with it. I don't care if its a blouse, t-shirt, cardigan, bolero or a poncho! WEAR A TOP WITH YOUR JSK.

It's too hot? Buy a chiffon blouse or wear t-shirt?
Feel like not wearing one? FINE, just do not call it lolita.

And I am done being a cunt. Good day internet.

>>7730567
This just happened to me like yesterday. Someone asked me to hold onto a dress since they're moving cross-country in a few weeks, but that they'll pay now. So we finalize the price, and I ask for their paypal email, and they haven't responded back in over a week.

I guess I'll just have to relist it.

>>7732341
I love you so so much.

>>7729938
Yes to all of this. I have no idea when lolita became all matchy-matchy, it's so boring now.

mis-matching colors. much hate especially when someone who has been in the fashion for years does it. like c'mon choke, NONE of those colors match

>>7732573
I really don't see it, maybe she could have picked a wig that matched the shoes but the rest matches just fine.

>>7730469
THIS.

>>7732593
Agreed, unless you're being very matchy matchy I don't see anything too bad here, but then, there's not a whole lot going on, piece-wise. Dress, shirt, tights, shoes, bow. No major accessories

>>7732573
Yeah, this is a pet peeve of mine. However, it's not the picture you posted, but the statement that you made.

The blouse and tights aren't the exact same colour, but it is clear that there are hints of the colour of the blouse within the tights. And the cream goes well with the blue of the dress.
I don't like the push to have everything of the same shade, or in one main colour, in an outfit. Especially when girls use it as an excuse to include clashing patterns, just because the tones are a match.

>>7732279
Agreed.

My pet peeve is girls who shove anything remotely "loliable" into their coords. Why not instead of spending the time, effort, and money to have a large amount of stuff that is marginally lolita, you plop down the cash and buy a few quality garments that will serve you well. I'd rather see someone wear the same blouse to every meet than see someone wear a different "loliable" blouse each time.

>JSKs without blouses
Why does this still happen?? I know it gets hot but I don't feel like that's an excuse
>blouses that don't fit with the JSK

>>7730469
on the flip side, the annoying thing about lolitas complaining about bigger girls who can actually fit in brand. I don't even mean HUGE bitches, I mean girls who are like a 14/16 and still can wear that shit.

You always hear the whining about "zomg shes stretching my dream dresssssss" and other kinds of bullshit.

>>7732690
because the rules are made up and no one actually gives a shit and if you do you're an autistic tard

>>7732723
kek

>>7732720
I don't care if bigger girls wear brand as long as it looks like it fits well. Like no extreme boobloaf, no seams about to burst, not looking like they're suffocating, etc. I also don't care if they alter it as long as the alterations are done well, but there's only so much you can do to the skirt before it loses the capacity for poof.

>dress shirts instead of blouses
I don't wanna see your dad's work shirts with lolita.

>cosplay wigs
It's not even so much about the ungodly colours but rather the 2edgy4me styles. I mean I'm sure SOME could work but most won't.

Shoes and bag not matching.
I don't care for smal details like if both have gold accents on them of what not, but to me they atleast have to be the same color and the same finish.
I hate seeing enamel shoes with a matt bag, ugh.

>>7733098
that lavender headbow is more jarring than the issue with the pinks, imo.

>>7730469
>8L

Jesus fucking christ on a bike

>>7732332
>>7732341

Girllll yes

>>7732720

On the flip flip side, plus size girls blaming people's judgment of their weight instead of the halfassed effort they put in.

A girl in my comm does this. She never does up her hair, does her makeup well, or can even coord the clothing itself nicely. Yet it's "oh lol it MUST be my weight" when she's criticized on /cgl/.

>>7732573
who cares?
it's aesthetically pleasing.

>>7733361
not if you don't like mismatching colors, dumbass

>>7733361
>>7733374
on this note
>lolitas that get uppity over minor inconsistency within a legitimately pretty coord
also
>lace parasols
they don't do...anything at best. At worst you might get some really funky tan lines after a day at the park.

>People who inexplicably spell lolitas as "Lolita's" every time.
I don't need to see a photo Ooo to pin girls who do this as newbies/itas. I was part of a community where the title of the FB page was spelled "Lolita's", and when a girl pointed out to the admin that it was incorrect, the admin said "That is just how I prefer to write it.“ Wtf?

>"Lolita-at-heart" or "aspiring lolitas".
If you don't own a single dress, you aren't a lolita. It doesn't matter how many tea parties you've been to or how kawaii you are in your heart. Just buy a Bodyline dress and stop thinking lolita is any more than that.

>Newbies who talk shit on brand.
I witnessed so much of this at local meetups recently. I understand its hard not to be jealous when you're first starting out. But insulting girls for supporting brands they enjoy is so immature.

>>7733098
Her shoes + bag are perfectly fine.
That headbow, however...and the ends of her cardigan are sloppy

>>7735292
Did you even read what i said? the picture is just an example of my pet peeve, mine, not yours.

>>7732341
>t-shirt

gurl no

I'd rather see a chiffon bolero or a silk scarf worn as a shawl than a t-shirt with lolita.

and while I'm in this thread
>People who get ultra-mad over things they don't like and rage over it on 4chan.

You can dislike things and still keep your cool.

>>7735256
You. I like you.
Fuck anyone who writes "Lolita's" to refer to more than one lolita at a time. Apostrophies are to indicate contractions or possession, THAT IS THEIR FUNCTION WITHIN LANGUAGE.

>>7730567
People do that to me because I say "no holds" in my terms of sale so they think they can trick me into holding the item for them if they do that.
Last time somebody tried that I had already sold the item to the next person in line because the first person failed to pay within 24 hours, but like 3 days later I get this tearful message in broken English from person 1 about how they're in a different time zone and it's so unfair. Cry more you big baby. Years of buyer bullshit have transformed me into the cold heartless seller I am today.

>>7735711
I think that's partially an autocorrect/spellcheck problem. The system thinks it's a name and makes it a possessive instead of a plural when you add the "s".

>>7730058
>bloomers
About that...

>>7727841
This doesn't make any sense to me and it always makes me feel uneasy.
Even when they put the shoes not on the dress but next to it and they're still on your bed it's like, why.
>>7728181
I tend to see this more in nitpick threads. They usually say it's nitpick just because the main piece is brand.

>>7730928
What's wrong with lolita-tips?

wristcuffs

>>7732279

When I say meh, I don't mean average, I mean a bit less so, like there's something off with it, like giantass sweet bow on a gothic ensemble sort of off.

I see her on tumblr from time to time, and she's hit or miss. But she's young and as I said before, she looks so happy it makes my own day sometimes.

>>7736066
I put my shoes on my dress for coordinate photos, but I always put a couple sheets of paper towels in between to act as a barrier.

>>7730058
>manasama
I lol'ed hard
>>7730347
The coord is cute but i would use an alice headbow in pink or white instead of that huge flower crown, it's too tacky.
>i admit i love the bear bag
>>7732332
>too much petti
I love modest poof on sweet lolita, even on the most sugary vomit prints.
>>7732341
Yes, most of Jsk without a blouse look ugly, like sundresses or just missing something.
>>7735691
I like only the t-shirt AP or BTSSB create but they are more cutsew than a plain t-shirt, infact they are created when you don't feel to wear a blouse and still look good. Some cutsews look also cute on a jsk.

>>7730928
ayy sure. I'm still trying to figure out how I want to do this. If I should do mostly photos with some little excerpts here and there, or if I should write articles (not really my thing though).

I'm also wondering if tumblr users would mind if I use their photography (linking back of course) for certain photo sets. Like if I'm trying to make a post about a trend. Some of them I can message but a lot of them have removed their ask boxes so..

I have some other things I want to go on about but I'll bring that up in the general thread

Fancy box
No petti
JSK no blouse
WA lolita
Tacky fandom prints

>>7736256
If there's no ask box don't use it. It's scummy as hell to repost or use someone's photography in a zine without their permission.

>>7736380
Not always.

Most Tumblrinas get buttmad if you don't credit them more than anything else. I ran a blog featuring coords and no one had ever complained.

>>7735256
you sound like you're from north carolina

>>7735691
I ain't Japanese, I ain't gonna call a T-shirt a cutsew. That is just a personal pet peeve. A t-shirt is a T shaped top which has been cut into a T shape. Speaking of which.

> People who abuse Wapanese
Don't get me wrong. Just because I dislike calling T-shirts cutsew's, does not mean I wont if I have to post a WTB.
However when you go on a sales post and see "Gomenasai kawaii-sempai-des, pwease buy my kawaii ass dress for the sugoi-neh peoples. It is so rorita that all the sempai's will notice you! CHUUUU!!!! ^ V ^ ONLY THIS MUCH YEN DESPITE THIS IS AN ENGLISH SALE SITE, GOOOOOO!!!! XXX"

Fuck.Right.Off. (pic related)

Unless you are literally speaking in kanjii, are in Japan or you can not speak English that well then stop that shit. There has been many times where I have sat at the MAC trying to sell my shit when kawaii-piss-ass-ita-chan comes up and asked how much yen my "kawaii" dress will be despite I am shipping it to the US and she is PAYING in united states fucking dollars!

> People who drag a sale on for an hour or days only to tell you they never could afford it in the first place.
WHY would you even ask if you did not have the money for it? Yes, sometimes we fuck up and do not realize how much money we have in the bank but why would you try and push a sale and ask a million-and-one questions if you ain't even gonna buy it?
AND THE WORST is when the realize they do not have the money and TRY to trade you shitty ita and cosplay items for your brand. My fucking Christ. Go on and try to pull this shit in a real high street store like Vivienne Westwood and see where that gets you.

>>7736706
Except there's a difference between a cutsew and a t-shirt. Pic related. They just have similar material.

It refers to the material, not the cut. There are cutsew dresses and even some that look like blouses.

You'd hardly call this: http://lolibrary.org/apparel/alice-cutsew-shirring-op
or this: http://lolibrary.org/apparel/airy-bowtie-three-quarter-sleeve-cutsew
or this: http://lolibrary.org/apparel/georgette-gather-cutsew

a T-shirt.

>>7727838
every time

>>7727892
Your friend is an asshole
>>7727868
>>7727710
Not to mention lolita dresses usually have shirring on the back.. have you even lolita?

>>7736149
The girl who runs it is clearly not someone who should be giving advice about lolita. I've never seen a coord of hers that I like or even consider a good example of the lolita aesthetic.

Pieces that are difficult to find decent matching accessories for. Like when they're this odd slightly off color from every other accessory. More of a pet peeve just for myself, because I struggle with coords in this way.
>Holy Lantern in lavender
The set accessories aren't even the same color as the fabric, JFC.
>putting together red/pink coord
>so many cute accessories to choose from!
>50 shades of red
>50 shades of pink
>0 in the shades I need
>not even just slight differences, just nearly hitting every shade of these two colors in each accessory
>lucky to acquire the actual right shade
>doesn't matter because everything else just looks so off

And on top of this, fucking filters over stock photos. I'd like to see an accurate representation of what's being sold to avoid the above, if even just a little.

>>7737026

To add to this, filters over review photos, or the contrast/brightness turned up so much that you can barely see details. And bad quality review photos. What is the worth of a review if you can't even see the bloody item clearly.

>>7732341
Seriously... i spend $300 on average for custom dresses as a Plus sized lady. I complain not at all because that is the cost of the fashion. If you're too poor to afford what fits, you're in the wrong hobby. Done.

>>77300064
>I think a lot of these people that are latching on to colors like that are cosplayers turned lolitas.

Lolita is a fashion that tends to attract people who don't know anything about fashion or dressing well. Which wouldn't be such an issue if there weren't so many who are convinced they know everything.

Somewhat related, my biggest pet peeve is probably how extremely low quality most lolita-specific shoes are.
To make matters worse, I constantly see girls on here 'criticize' coords including better quality shoes for their choice and suggest they should wear ugly bodyline/taobao pleather ones instead.
I mean I understand that they're just repeating things they have been told themselves, but it's still annoying as fuck.


>>7732332
I agree so much about the too much petticoat thing.

>>7732341
I think some jsks actually look perfetly fine without a blouse or cardigan (though a lot don't) but wearing an expensive dress you don't want to wash too often directly on your skin is a bit... gross, _especially_ when it's hot outside.

>>7737026

Feeling you, anon. I used to buy sets precisely of this problem, it looks better to be a cookie cutter clone than try to match 50 different shades of the same colour. But lately I noticed even AP has gone backwards with their colour matching. Radiant Candlelight came with gold on the dress and silver on the socks. Cosmic pink comes with purple in the print and headbow but lavender on the cutsew and wristcuffs. The blue haircombs for Crystal Dream Carnival doesn't match the blue on the dress. Augh. I didn't pay extra $30 just so I could have colour matching headaches over things from a single set!

While there are way too many people who go around saying their (usually terrible) outfit is lolita just because they're wearing a single item from a lolita brand, it also really bothers me when people give someone shit for not following any rules when they weren't intending to wear a lolita coord and didn't claim it was one, just because they used a lolita piece in their outfit.

>>7736990

>>7728615
>I also hate these ass huge platforms with super tall heels that look like hooker shoes coordinated with gothic lolita
Take it up with this faggot.

>>7729419
>I'm awful at small talk, so I suddenly realized I'm somehow telling them about Ed Gein and I saw their faces and man did I feel awkward
Ahahaha are you me
Like I'm sorry they had to hear me talk about why Vlad was called "the Impaler" or how lungs feel when you squeeze them but at no point did anyone try to change the subject so this is what they got. Talking about someone's outfit only gets you so far.

>>7730071
The petticoat papers

Bad grammar that takes effort instead of laziness. Especially the fact that apostrophes aren't magical pluralizing machines, like >>7735256 said and >>7732341
actually did.

Also >>7736706
>cutsew's

>>7737078
>dat random capitalization

And there's also the awful spelling mistakes
>petitcoat
>sheering

>>7736706
No one actually does that on sales posts, and you're wrong about tshirts vs. cutsews. Please kindly leave.

>>7737724
Fuck y'all that shit looks fan.

>>7737787
*Fab

>>7736706
you are an idiot

>>7737787
I agree actually, I was just pointing out that complaining about Mana platforms in gothic lolita like it's some new thing stupid girls do is pretty silly. Shit's been around from the start.

>>7730553
I don't understand the hate but I kinda do?
Like Peignors would look great if they were cut to match the length of the dress.

>>7735256
in Dutch Lolita's would be correct.

>>7733326
I see more skinnyfat lolita hate on perfectly fine fatty-chans than fatty-chans blame other people's judgement

>>7737840
Good thing no ones dutch

>>7737838
I think it's more a matter of personal taste. Plus peignoirs have been overused and used really badly so it probably left a bad taste in anon's mouth or something.

>>7737849

I'm Dutch.

>>7732573
Her legs disgust me.
But the only flaws I really see are the busy tights and too-brown shoes.

I wonder what photoshop program she uses.

>>7737849
Plenty of people are Dutch, anon.

>>7737840
The capitalization would still be incorrect (unlike in German afaik) and the apostrophe is only appropriate when you're actually writing in Dutch so this information is pretty irrelevant to the anon whose pet peeve concerns English. I'm sure plenty of things that are wrong in English are correct in some other language but who gives a fuck? Still wrong in English.

>asswatch May
good thing it's not May

My pet peeve is the fact that whenever someone posts a sub par coordinate on CoF and asks for concrit, few actually gives good constructive criticism and most seem to be talking out of their ass. Also, for some reason they always seem to latch onto color matching, as if getting all your colors to match will fix the coord. Uh, no, there's also the matter of style, themes, patterns, and fit that make some of those coords crap. How are people supposed to improve as lolitas if everyone is giving them crap advice or "teehee your coord is cute and unique!" Some of these girls handing out "advice" need to spend a few more years in lolita because they sound like idiots...

>>7737843
The only thing I hate is
>OMG FATTIES R RUINING MUH BRAND BECAUSE MY FAVORITE BRAND ADDED AN EXTRA 5CM TO THE WAIST ON THIS ONE RELEASE 5 EXTRA FUKKIN CMS PEOPLE! OMG OMG OMG FUK U ALL

>>7737896
>I'm sure plenty of things that are wrong in English are correct in some other language but who gives a fuck? Still wrong in English.

True, but you can't expect an ESL to always have perfect grammer, especially when they don't live in an English-speaking country. Learning to speak foreign languages well is not easy.

That said, I do agree that it's stupid when people have glaring mistakes in the header of their blog (or something similar) and refuse to change it.

>>7729921
Fair enough. I thought you meant never, even if it matched the print.

>>7737724
You won't change my idea, anon. And Mana can fit whatever he wear and look fab while most of gothic lolita girls wearing them look like shit with them.

I'm sad that Juliette et Justine is having a size 4.

>>7737849
You know they have a GIANT lolita community right?

>>7732337
>I message someone about an item I want, but the price is just a bit more than I want to pay, so I ask for a small discount (think $5 on a $40 item)

That's already super cheap. Just pay the 40 $ and stop be a Jew.