/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

How well do Grimoire tights suit tall girls?
I've bought replicas and I'll never go that way again.

Roughly how many op/jsks do IW and BTSSB/AATP manage to release yearly?

I have not been keeping up.

>>7634118

Check Lolibrary, they sort them by year.

>>7634097
ive heard grimoire tights are really bad they have blurry prints and no stretch so i wouldnt say they suit tall girls
idk about alternatives, you could just get a really good replica?

>>7634118
count all JSK's/OP's from 2013 op lolibrary and add aprox. 10 for the possible not added ones?

>>7634124
Aw, that sucks. Well, thanks, anon.

>>7634097
>>7634124
I'm 5'5" with muscular legs and the crotch is 2 inches too short. And yes, the print blurs when not on stick thin legs.

>>7634123
>>7634125

Neat. Thanks.

Did the IW sale start last Wednesday? I've been trying to look at their sales on the website but it seems like they're using broken links and I just get redirected to an error page.

>>7634097
I don't recommend it. I have a friend with a model build: 5'9" and super slender. The print still looks distorted on her legs and the crotch doesn't go all the way up on her. However, I think the Grimoire OTKs look fine on her. (Though they're more like knee socks than OTKs since her legs are so long.)

If you're still indecisive...I split a Grimoire LP with my friend a few months ago and it was a great way to try out their stuff. I can't remember the price, but we got tons of socks and stockings for ridiculously cheap prices. And if they don't work out for you, I think a lot of people were able to easily scalp their Grimoire LP stuff on the comm sales.

Girl offers 200 lower than asking price for JSK I'm selling. Politely say thanks but no thanks and move on to sell this fucking thing.

Two hours later, new message. Get excited thinking I might have a buyer

"Oh okay, well what's the absolute lowest you're willing to go?"

Bitch that's not how this fucking game works. Go look at every single sale of this cut an colorway in the past year. With the exception of one notoriously shitty seller, I AM THE LOWEST PRICE OUT THERE.

Yes, I frustrated. I just don't understand people.

>>7634213
Well to be honest it's really difficult to offer a price if there aren't any stated.

>>7634213
>"Oh okay, well what's the absolute lowest you're willing to go?"
I hate when people ask this

>>7634217
She said there was an asking price

Buyer wanted to know if she would go $200 lower

>>7634217

I really don't understand why people do this? I said I would look at reasonable offers, but

Do people just think we're retarded and don't know the average market price? Or are they just fucktards that think they deserve everything for cheap?

>>7634213
The fuck dress was it that you could even go $200 lower? Some rare print or was she like asking for it for $80 or so.

>>7634270
You dont think lolitas have that entitlement? That behavior is all around you.

>>7634282

It's a fairly rare print, honestly? Not like puppet circus, but girls still want it. And I'm going by the several others that have listed this year as far as pricing goes. It's not an unreasonable asking price.

>>7634213
This is pretty much the reason I stopped listing items as OBO. The worst is when they try to shit-talk you when you reject their offer. There have been times people wrote back, "Why did you list the item as OBO if you won't look at other offers?" when their offer was a 50% reduction off my asking price.

I still get laughable trade offers for things like an offbrand Forever21 blouse in exchange for a brand JSK. I always know it's a bad sign if the other person says, "You can pick as many offbrand items out of my sales post as you want in exchange for your brand JSK!"

>>7634300

It's not Midsummer is it? I just wonder because you mentioned a notoriously shitty seller, and I know Rosaire was bitching about the low price hers went for.

>>7634398

Winner! That's what I get for trying not to give myself away

But yes, that's the exact dress

>>7634316
Or when you accept an offer and the person never gets back to you.
I've had two people do it for the same goddamn item, and I just want it gone.

>>7634316
>>7634431
I always put my listing price as a little more expensive than I intend to sell, and when people comment to show their interest, I tell them I can give a special discount if they can pay within 2 days (or 3 days sometimes). the key is to reveal this discount ONLY after they show their interest, if you mention it directly in your sale post it doesn't work as well.

I find that this little trick helps me differentiate between serious buyers, because those who will flake will just...flounce and maintain their oh-i-dont-know-maybe-maybenot attitude.

>>7634171
I've been checking for awhile too. I think wednesday was the in store sale.

>>7634423

lol, the rare dress+shitty seller reminded me of the rosaire auction.

But wtf at someone lowballing with Midsummer. I'd like to think she's just totally clueless as to what she's dealing with.

>>7634497

Like, if it was less popular, I would understand more. But it's the "what's the absolute lowest you'll do" that has me shaking my damn head

Right now I find myself in the exact opposite part of the trade. Someone is selling one of my DD for extremely high. I have checked all the selling prices for the same cut/colour in the last year and it matches with what I'd want to pay.
Still that's around 150$ lower than what she wants...
Now I have no idea how to enter negotiations because I feel even though hers is clearly overpriced, that she might have payed that much herself and it would be extremely blunt/unclever to "drop the bomb".
Ideas?

Opinions on using foldable umbrellas as parasols? I usually only see long parasols used and they're always really pretty even when closed, but I don't want to carry it around while we're indoors, so I was thinking about getting a pretty foldable umbrella to put in my bag when not in use instead.
The handles are nothing like the long parasols, with the curve, so I'm not sure if it'd fits the aesthetic properly or not, but my main priority is just staying out of the sun as much as possible.
>tfw 110 degree weather

>>7634524
Make an offer? Tell her others have sold around yhat price point and that's what you're looking at.

This is midsummer anon btw. Just as long as your offer is founded and you're not just trying to be a cheapskate, it's not that awful?

>>7634529

Maybe I'm being facetious, but perhaps the reason why you don't see foldable umbrellas is because, well, they're hidden most of the time?

That umbrella looks cute, I wouldn't worry too much about the handle not being lolita enough. Most of the attention will be on how frilly the actual umbrella looks.

>>7634316
One time a seller had OBO and I asked if 10 euros lower was alright and apparently she didn't want to go lower at all. THEN WHY WRITE OBO!?!

>>7634529
brands make foldable parasols. I wouldn't use an umbrella personally because they tend to have less UV protection to them and I need it because of my skin.

>>7634529
if you look around, there are some cute foldable umbrellas on taobao. and some do come with the cute u-shape handle painted in the colour of wood! my advice is to stay away from overly frilly or lacey designs, coming from taobao the lace usually sucks and ruffles are frumpy.

>>7634547
I have to disagree, there is some serious problem with the lace there

>>7634524
Do you have links for the previous sales? If they're Japanese, you could link them and give a slightly higher price, saying the going price seems to be x and provide a link, and then ask for x+$30 or something to accommodate the fact the Western market can be more expensive.

>>7634547
>>7634556
>>7634562
Alright, thanks for the replies!
>>7634571
What's wrong with the lace, if you don't mind me asking? I went with an umbrella with less lace, but now I'm worried I picked one with bad lace. How can I tell?

>>7634571

Baby uses raschel lace too. It's the only frilly lace that will hold up to rain since the parasol also doubles as an umbrella.

>>7634616
Not them but the lace looks as though it's thin and could rip easily if you look at the details rather than the overall shape.

>>7634638
That's not raschel lace anon, its chemical lace made of the same material as the parasol. Do you even own a brand parasol?

>>7634648

I own that parasol. I get the bottom is a regular ruffle, but could you explain what that scratchy, slightly stretchy lace on the second row is?

>>7634640
Ok, I see. I think the umbrella I got might have some of that lace, I can't really tell. But maybe I can just remove and replace it. I found a how-to on adding ruffles to an umbrella using shower curtain lining.

>>7634695

I don't think you can remove it completely, as that will create holes in the umbrella. But I guess you could cover it up. Just don't go overboard with it.

Where do you live? Primark always has cute foldable and loliable umbrellas on sale.

>>7634476
Oh, I see. Thanks.

Also, I like the umbrellas in this store. Some are more like parasols due to their size though, so keep that in mind if you buy.
http://rzlyz.taobao.com

>>7634556
You can get UV rated umbrellas though.

Has anybody an idea what "Seller rating restriction" on Y!Auction means?

>>7634758
Can you post a screenshot? There are two possible things I'm thinking of that this might be.

>>7634695
I don't like this specific umbrella, it would have been fine until they added that...black button with a bunch of ruffles around it.

I also think it's a bad idea to remove any bad lace from any kind of umbrella. You don't want it to leak in the rain...

>>7634638
well, firstly brands aren't always perfect. secondly, baby used some uggo lace in the parasol you posted, but the construction is nice and the other parts of the parasol are made with nicer looking materials than >>7634529

actually if you really can't find a cute frilly foldable umbrella, I think it's totally acceptable to use a plain one without any lace or frilly details. I mean, if you wear a really extravagant dress with beautiful lace, the ordinary-mortal-tier lace would look really inferior next to your dress...

I have that parasol from taobao and my friend has a Baby one and the materials and ruffles are the same. Only difference is that the Baby has scalloped hem (?)

>>7634802
Link to this?

>>7634804
Anon it's a 50 cny generic taobao parasol I bought a year and more ago. I don't think the listing is still up

Use google translate and search, lazy>>7634804

>>7634549
Maybe they were hoping people would offer *more* than their asking price or something.

>>7634689
Definitely raschel lace

>>7634766
I noticed it in the auction description as I clicked on the buyee option to get a translation. I've never bought off of Y!Auctions and I'm afraid it means something around the lines, that only Accounts with rated transactions may bid on it?

I seriously wish people would stop using "loli" or "lolis" to refer to lolitas, goddamn.
I wish every comm leader would point this out as not okay, ugh.

>>7634832
So long as Buyee lets you bid on it, you're fine. I still don't know what that means, though. I thought it might have been that Buyee wouldn't let you, because the seller's rating was too low.

Would platforms work with pic related?

>>7634892
I forgot to add:
Any SS that you use will have (generally good) ratings, so that won't be a problem.

Sage for double post.

people outside of your circle won’t think you are adorable, hot or intelligent for dressing Loleta they just assume the fallowing.
You are an emotional wreck who is bipolar/chronically depressed, or was molested/abused as a child. And have yet to address this and carry it with you.
You are bad with money, cannot hold down a job for more than 5 months, probably spend large amounts on clothing that you don’t even use often and are probably swimming in debt.
You dress in large fluffy clothing to hide how fat you are because you really hate yourself, and how you look. Or you dress in this fashion to make people think you are sweet innocent and adorable when deep down you don’t think you appear or feel that way at all.
You are frankly slutty and therefore easy.You think you are in love easily after meeting someone, and probably get undressed after the second date, and you quickly become overly needy. You probably have cryonic self-esteem issues because of this.
You are, rash, arrogant, irrational when mad, quick to anger, and really are often times a total bitch, and overall in life you are bitter about something, or just plain mean, making you uncomfortable to be around.
- you are shallow, spend most of your time thinking about how you look and how others view you rather than doing something productive or something that makes you actually happy with your spare time. You are an attention whore who fantasizes about having people fawn over you and are not happy otherwise, and you have lost friends and relationships in the past because of this on more than one occasion.
You don’t have control over your life or situation and for the most part will make other people’s lives more completed probably because your behaviors are very destructive. You may be interesting to look at, but you are not worth the time to get to know or have a deep conversation with. You are dismissed and forgotten just as quickly as you make an impression on someone.

>>7634900
Thing is, I wouldn't use Buyee, but a friend of mine who is living in Japan and has no Y! Account yet would bid on it. So idk...=( Thanks anyway for your help =D

was wondering who your favorite lolita artists were?

>>7634901
We know that already.
Imo, here is the most beautiful thing in lolita: we don't care.
Let people think what they want, we love this fashion and nothing will change that.

>>7634901
You lost me at Loleta

>>7634930
>people actually replying
Also
>cryonic self-esteem issues
>cryonic

>>7634901
>Loleta
>cryonic

bought a set and just got the accessories & garbage anon here again, just got off of work so i'll go ahead and post the relevant part of the message she replied with.

" Hello, sorry for my late response.

When I saw your message, I couldn't believe my eyes, I thought "Oh my goodness, did I forget to ship the dress?!"

I ran to my room to look for the dress. I'm very shocked to find out that I DIDN'T CHECK THE PACKAGE BEFORE SHIPPING IT OUT. And because of this, The dress IS still here....
please forgive me for this error! I can't believe I made such a terrible mistake here!!"

i'm still kind of stunned. how do you not notice you didn't pack something i assume you must've had to take out to ship until nearly four days after it was supposed to be gone? it's always hard to read sincerity over the internet so. idek. i'm not closing the dispute until i get my dress, which she claims she'll be shipping out Thursday or Friday.

>>7634962
Haha wow. Either she's the dumbest person ever or.. well, probably that.
If she was trying to scam you wtf kind of scam is that anyway? Like you wouldn't do something about it?
Any explanation for why the package says 2lbs? Clearly she didn't weigh it properly

>>7634966

if it was priority flat rate then it really doesn't matter what she put as the weight on the object it would cost the same, she probably just estimated it

Best place to buy GOLD lolita shoes?

my-lolita-dress has gold as an option, but it looks more tacky in the photo. Can anyone confirm the shade of gold?
>http://www.my-lolita-dress.com/glossy-gold-middle-shaft-lolita-boots
And clobba has it under the custom house shoe selection, but I'm not fond of any of the styles.
>http://www.clobbaonline.com/index.php?p=1_5

Not sure where to go to get a soft and demure gold.

>>7634975
I think I know who you are
anyways, I don't think those boots are very good

here are some MJ's http://www.6pm.com/nina-diandra-platino-metallic

>>7634985
>http://www.6pm.com/nina-diandra-platino-metallic
NTAYRT but these are fucking cute. Thanks for posting.

>>7634985
>Only goes up to a US 9.5
Curse my huge-ass feet.

Is there an average skirt length in lolita? And how short is considered too short?

>>7634975
>http://www.my-lolita-dress.com/glossy-gold-middle-shaft-lolita-boots
Gogo boots? more like nono boots.

>>7634985
If you're implying I'm Lor, I am not.

I really like the color, but again, not the style. I want boots that can be used for gothic, but all gold tends to be towards a sweet style.

Or the wrong color.

Are we still talking about umbrellas, because this is the most beautiful fucking umbrella I have ever seen and I want other people to see it too.
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/lumiebre/item/0102-13000/

>>7635112
I don't want those boots, I'm just using them as color reference. They make their boots in any color and some of them are really cute (those excluded) but never have samples in gold.

I have more lolita knowledge then to wear THOSE ugly things. I'd rather wear creepers and those still make me want to gag.

>>7635147
I want it so bad. I am my chruch. But i cant convince myself to pay that much for an umbrella

>>7635147
I absolutely love Lumiebre's umbrellas. You should take a look at their other ones, they have some other nice designs that are cheaper

>>7634832
Seller rating restriction just means you have to have a certain amount of feedback (usually 5+ I think) and a certain amount can't be negative to bid. Any shopping service is going to be fine and you won't have to worry about it.

How do you guys feel about wearing really expensive dresses out?
Ones that are worth tons on 2nd hand market, like nordic lotta or ctp?

I'm always afraid that something awful is going to happen to them, or a jelly cunt at a meet will "accidentally" spill something on it.

This is going to sound stupid, but how should I figure out what length of skirt I want for Elegy's newest release? She says that it's a bit high waisted, but I still don't know where I should begin measuring, and even then, how do I account for the poof of a petticoat, which will make it a bit shorter on my leg?
I wish indie brands gave the measurements of their models and the pieces they wore.

>>7635108
nothing? Okay. Was just wondering because I usually see the dresses fall right at or an inch above the knee.
But then sometimes I see things like pic related and it seems a bit too short.

>>7635489
Well choke is a giant, but she's popular and therefore can get away with pretty much anything; she's an outlier and should not be counted. Personally I think that's way too short...a couple inches above the knee might be okay depending on the rest of the coord, but showing that much leg really throws off the silhouette you're shooting for. That's almost Halloween costume length and if that was a sweet coord with so much leg showing it would look ageplay as fuck.

>>7635489
Continuing my nitpick, if you're also 8,000 feet tall and absolutely can't avoid showing that much leg you can always set your tripod a few inches taller and take photos from a slightly higher angle (which is what she did here, compared to the photo you posted). You're still going to look dumb in real life if you actually go to a meet with a skirt this short, but it's an easy camera trick for internet photos.

Midsummer anon. The legacy continues.

"Considering since the rerelease, the lowest I've seen is 430, the minimum I would like to consider is 400. I've only seen one JSK sell for less, and it was from a notoriously problematic seller.

Let me know if you would be interested in discussing that price range!"

Her reply:

"Just wondering if $350 is the lowest your willing to go?"

I swear to fuck. How much more blunt must I be?

>>7635537
I just wouldn't answer at that point.

>>7635489
>>7635513
>>7635529

Am I the only one who finds choke's height to be very aesthetically pleasing in the context of lolita? I can't see it going over well with sweet but she dresses in a more mature style. I think it works. My apologies if no negativity was meant, was merely responding to the word choice "giant" and "get away with"

>>7635458
You need to get out of your comm if you think someone is enough of a cunt to wreck your outfit out of jealousy. Either you're too paranoid to handle burando or just comm is rotten.

>>7635550
I think she's gorgeous and I love it when she wears gothic, but I still think her skirts are too short. I also think people put her on a pedestal she doesn't deserve to be on and she gave me some pretty shoddy customer service a while back with a half-assed apology once the issue was finally resolved, so my feelings about her are mixed at best. It's old shit but I'm still a little bitter lol.

>>7635550
I think if someone has thin legs and is tall, it looks really good with lolita, in a mature, elegant way. If you have anything but super thin legs, it just looks like you're showing too much leg.

>>7635463

I normally measure the length of a dress I already own and like. It doesn't matter if my existing dress is high waisted or not, I just measure from shoulder to hem. Subtract the high waisted torso, and what's left is the skirt, which will end up around the same length as my existing dress (the draping normally doesn't cause a drastic amount of difference).

If it's your first lolita dress.... well, most lolita dresses are around 90cm-ish. Maybe you can look up someone who's similar to your height/weight and then check what dress lengths looks good on them.

>>7635621
It's not my first, but I've never ordered something custom. How would I know the length of the torso, though?

>>7635623

Wouldn't that be from the shoulder to wherever the waistline is?

>>7635626
Yes, but how am I supposed to know this from an image on my computer? I don't have the dress to measure, nor do I have measurements for the torso portion of the dress.

>>7635537
Reality check: Midsummer doesn't sell for as much as you want it to anymore. Quit being a scalping cunt.

>>7635657

Except I'm not trying to scalp...? I checked every other sale in the past few months and it's in this price range. If you'd like to link me to some lower sales, I would love to see them! But I don't think I'm being unfair here.

>>7634648
Lol, they've been using raschel lace since they started making parasols you moron.

>>7634893
Depends on what type, there are heaps of different styles of platforms.

>>7635566
She gave me the second worst customer experience I've experienced in the 8 years since I've gotten into lolita so I'm bitter about that too. It seems like a lot of seagulls have had trouble with her but no one will speak up about it because she's pretty and well known.

>>7635929
Instead they make up lies and harass unpopular and fat lolis (coughrosairecough)

>>7635668
We're all the sales you checked before or after the rerelease?
The rerelease drove the price down.

what the fuck closetchild

I know they have a few fucked up prices right when a sale starts but usually they're corrected within a couple of minutes and this stayed up for quite a while

I hesitated because the item condition doesn't make sense and the colorway was listed as "pink x black", so I just assumed they fucked up and I didn't want them to ban me for trying to cheat them
but now this listing is shown as "sold out" and I hope they just did that so they can correct the errors and not because I just missed out on this dress for $8

>>7636012
Ha, looks like they removed all of the sale listings. All of them. Too bad, that would've made for an awesome story.

>>7636012
>>7636017
Haha, I was wondering if anyone else saw this. The descriptions were all messed up too. I don't know why you would bother buying them, it's obvious that it's a mistake. Then you have to go through the refund process which is a hassle.

>>7636033
>I don't know why you would bother buying them
For the thrill of being a winner of course, even if it's for a brief and shining moment

Looks like they've got the corrected listings back up

>>7635639

........I had the impression you were taking measurements so you could give them to the designer and have the dress custom made to your size. So the torso measurement would be from your own shoulder to wherever you want the waistline to be, since it's custom made to your torso, not the torso of the person in the computer image.

If you're trying to figure out how long the skirt of a pre-made item will be, take the length of the dress measurement, not the skirt length, subtract one to two inches for the petticoat poof, and measure down from your shoulder.

Will AP be stocking the CDC headbows in all colors mid-July or just pink since all the others are "sold out"?

>>7636062
It's not custom made for your torso, though. While you can give her under bust and full bust so that she can make your boobs fit, there's no option for the length of the torso.
There is also no full dress measurement given, probably because they're all custom made and vary thanks to optional skirt lengths.

>>7636162
If something sold it on reserve, it sold out. Here's no magical extra stock. It's sold out.

>>7636007

After the rerelease actually. It was small enough of a rerelease that the price didn't fluctuate much, from what I could tell

>>7636062
>>7636184
Pic related, this is what I have to work with.
There's nothing about bodice length in the extra information, either.

>>7634097
Grimoire tights can only fit maybe 5'7" tallest and look best at a weight of around 145 or under.

>>7636187
I love this print so much but the ribbons look so tacky.
Glad prints are getting so interesting though.

>>7636195
I personally love the ribbon detailing, and it's one of the main reasons why I really want this release. I have Fragrant Rose Memories in the camelot cut for the same reason.

>>7636186
If you can't sell it for your asking price and you're getting offers for $200 less it obviously isn't worth what you're scalping it for :)

>>7636219

dang

Just because she won't take your "what's lowest you will go" offer doesn't me you have to be a bitch about it.

Sorry you can't get midsummer for pocket change

>:)

>>7636219

Looks like you're the butthurt lowballing cheapo.

>>7636187

Ahh. I see the problem now. I'd guess the print to be around +-25cm tall from antler tip to bow based on the skirt, but for best results you're better off messaging her directly on FB or emailing her.

Sorry, anon, I remember when orders to Elegy were made through her facebook, so I didn't know she had this set up for her new print.

>>7636219

Just because you are so cheap and poor doesn't mean she's a scalper.

>>7636228
It's okay.
I guess I will contact her. I was just trying to make an order without doing so, since I know she's been going through a rough time the last couple of days.

>>7634097
5'7 here. They hardly even try to make it up to my crotch. I'm considering turning them into OTKs since they're completely unwearable at the moment. Even if I used all of my strength to hike them up there the print gets so disappointingly distorted and faint.

I'm new to this.

So Lolita is fashion mixing Victorian and Japanese style and not about under age girls is that correct?

>>7636219

It's really cute that I stopped getting haggling PMs just about the time you started posting

> :)

Is the blue (mint?) color of Sweetie Violet blue or mint? Lolibrary lists it as mint, but lolibrary is often wrong. It looks blue in the stock photos and some outfits, but in others it looks straight up mint, so I am very confused.

>>7636313
No it's totally about underage girls

We're all underage girls

Also fatties

You have to be fat and underage.

And not even a girl

You have to be a fat underage boy.

>>7636379
It looks completely blue to me. Even the ribbon is bright sax.

>>7636385
You also need to be poor and have a sugar daddy. It's a requirement that you have sold at least 4 pairs of your panties within the last year of your entrance to the cult. And you must be into ageplay or else you're not a real lolita.

>>7636379
I think it's mostly a very seafoam colour!

Would look blue or green depending on lighting and how you colour coord it!

>>7636386
This is one of the pics that made me wonder if it really was more minty. It's hard to know with everyone applying so many filters to their pics.

>>7636379
AP USA lists the colour as "mint".

>>7636390
Okay, good to know. Hopefully I get to see this in person sometime. I love seafoam colored things, so I might actually really like this colorway.

>>7636313 Sorry just ignore >>7636385 and >>7636389
They're just trolling you.
Everyone knows you have to be non-gendered, and sell 5 pairs of panties, not 4.

>>7636421
Awww we were just having fun anon!

quick question;
if I decide I want to dress up as a member of Babymetal will I have dumb people think I'm trying to do some obnoxious lolita outfit? Specifically pic related

>>7636526
Why would you want to do that? Babymetal suck.

>>7636195
really? Those side ribbons were the thing that sold me on this dress.

>>7635926
Something like pic related or like what Chokelate is wearing over here >>7635489 in offwhite.

>>7636526
Those look like typical idol costumes and not like lolita dresses at all to me.

>>7636530
because i have shit taste and enjoy kitsch things

>>7636542
Well, I once wore a yukata to a convention with my hair down and people thought I was cosplaying as some inuyasha character

>>7636545
baby metal is cute. Idol costumes are really different than lolita. I can see where someone who doesnt know ANYTHING about lolita might call it that, but no lolita is going to confuse you for an ita

I have to ship my order from Mbok but i have to choose mark the parcel as gift to avoid customs and use EMS? I live in Europe (Italy) so customs are so awful and slow, for this i want to choose EMS. It's only a salopette for avoid having too much burando and being hit more by customs.

>>7636542
Maybe. Some time ago there was a popular post about them going around on Tumblr and it called them "gothic lolitas".

Does this guy have a blog? I saw him in Marie and Mila's photos, and hot damn, is he gorgeous.

>>7636219

That isn't the point you dumb fuck. Look at >>7635537

She clearly states that $400 is her minimum. The dumb cunt of a buyer, apparently unable to comprehend basic english, then asks the seller if $350 is the lowest she would go. After seller had said $400 was the lowest she would go.

The point isn't whether seller-anon is scalping, it's the fact the buyer is clearly an illiterate retard.

After getting some ideas from previous lolita general threads I thought it'd be fun to make a "lolita coord challenge" app. Basically the idea was to make a site where you have monthly challenges based on a certain theme, and users can submit and vote for their favorite coords. The coord with the most votes for that month challenge wins.

What do you guys think? Would you guys participate in something like that? If you think it'd be a fun idea, do you have any initial suggestions?

>>7637039
I think that'd be really fun esp if it was like a phone app. Especially if people can't just go on facebook and ask their friends to vote for them (though that would help spread the app)

>>7636840
hes just so perfect ikr
http://totentanzdandy.tumblr.com/

>>7637047
I was planning on just making it a web app and allowing the site to adjust how it looks based on what platform it's being displayed on (certain layout for mobile, tablets, desktops, etc.)!

I'm planning on keeping it completely separate from Facebook, as in you have to create an account on the app to participate (I'm not a big fan of FB in general).

What do you call those underarm pads for not getting sweat on your clothing and where can you buy them?
Is Taobao an option?

>>7637039
Im the anon that originally posted that idea . I say go for it!

>>7637051
Thank you, anon.
>tfw he could probably see this and realize my anonymous self is a creep

Anyone want to clue me in on Phil in the SF comm? I heard some crazy things about it.

>>7637088
*about him

Does anyone have links/shop names of places that sell wigs like this? I know Bodyline used to have one, but if it's the one I see like this on there now, it's sold out in most colors and looks really frizzy.

Does anyone have any pictures of outfits with patterned blouses? I'm making a patterned blouse (navy chiffon with tiny white bows) for my normalfag wardrobe and was wondering if/how I could incorporate it into lolita.

How do you feel when you sell an item to someone and they then jack up the price and resell it?
I know they can do whatever they want with it, but it kind of bothers me that they're charging more for a used item than what I (somewhat recently) sold to them nwt, especially because I cut them a deal on the item.

>>7637162
I usually rant about it on twitter but that's the extent of it. It's their dress/blouse/whatever now. Usually I don't see the items selling successfully though, which makes me feel better.

>>7637059
Underarm guards or shields, usually. You can get them at most fabric stores or Amazon, they're actually pretty common.

>>7637162
>cutting deals
why

>>7636840
I think i saw him on fb omg. So handsome.
>too spaghetti feels to contact him

>>7633891
Does anyone know what kind of shoes these are in the OP, or maybe a place where I could get something like that?

>>7637231

http://www.american-duchess.com/

>>7637186
I am usually open to offers and offered the person free shipping since they were willing to pay the BIN price of an auction.

>>7636313
Correct
Lolita Tips has a great guild on this as well as EGL

If you're new to this and have a think skin, I would stay away from BTB for a bit

>>7637039
I'll kickstart that

>>7637142
Invest in cutsews?

>>7637420
I have plenty of blouses already, I was just wondering if patterned blouses in lolita is/could be a thing.

>>7637408
Should stay away from cgl too.

>>7637053
I can understand the aversion to fb, but on the other hand, more people might use it if it is connected. Just something to consider

>>7637557
I suppose that's true. How connected would you think would be best? Like allowing people to log in with Facebook and grabbing profile data? Or perhaps more?

>>7637475
Yup

>>7637562
I would say logging in and maybe the option to share their entry on fb?

>>7637596
Oh, I wouldn't mind doing that! I'll make FB login an option then.

I started creating the app. Right now I have a really basic skeleton laid out. Users can upload coords for the latest challenge and attach an image, name the coord, and add a description.

What are some good classical Lolita tumblrs to follow? Ones that post a lot of coords and original content instead of kawaii reblogs, preferably. Please help me out, tumblr anons!

>>7637603

That sounds really awesome! I would even pay for it, if it were like a Lolita alternative to FB haha.

Will any of you be my gf? I'm from /r9k/ so I'm an awful piece of shit, but I'll shut up and do whatever you want.

Please?

>>7637774
Are you trolling?
Because I'm pretty desperate right now. I'm really fucked up though from my past relationship.

Do you happen to be in the GTA Canada region?

>>7635489
She looks like a giant lampshade. Sorry, can't unsee it. It just looks like a tall girl trying to wear a dress that really doesn't fit her.

>>7637778
..I'm in Toronto.

>>7637785
Drop me your email.
No guarantees though, although I'm desperate, I'm also really picky. (ironic, I know).

>>7637794
What the hell, no expectations. In the field.

>>7637774
>lol

Do I have no hope of fitting into my dream dresses, anons?
>83cm bust and 66cm waist.

>Royal Dreamy Chocolate JSK - Bust: 88-100cm, waist 68-78cm
>Chess Chocolate Dropped Waist JSK - Bust: 92cm, Waist: 72cm

I'm going to look like I'm wearing a potato sack, aren't I.

>>7637439
With plain dresses/skirts I don't see why not. I have a cream chiffon blouse with black stars that I wear a lot with black skirts and I think it works nicely.

Innocent World released some checked blouses at one point, but apart from that I can't think of any brands that have done it.

>>7637885
AatP did too, and VM/Beth did some pretty funky madras shirts.

Does anyone else have that one dress that they love from the bottom of their heart, but doesn't fit their style or wardrobe at all?
For me it's Happy Garden in sax. I can't stop thinking about it. It isn't rare and it never goes for much, but I can't justify buying it because I have absolutely nothing to coord it with.

>>7637912
For me, it's Starlight Carnevale JSK II in the sax colorway. My wardrobe is entirely earth tones and either floral or chocolate motifs...but damn I love how striking these colors are and the cut of the JSK is adorable. Kill me now.

>>7637912
YES! I am into classic/sweet but the Radiant Candlelight skirt in navy almost made me drop my wallet. The overlay is so beautiful and the gold pairs so well with navy. I have nothing in my closet that will match it though.

>>7637865
I think you're going to be fine, anon. Those are my exact measurements and I fit all brand quite well. You have to have some breathing room and you're going to have at least a blouse and bra under the dress anyway.

My friend on the other hand is really small, her bust is maybe 72 cm and waist 50-55 cm, she can't wear many dresses but skirts fit her great.

>>7637951
Most skirts have a minimum of 64cm though, and that's at the very smallest. I don't see how she would fit into anything. Damn that's tiny. Is she short?

>>7637912
Buying this was actually the reason I decided to start expanding my wardrobe. Before that I was almost strictly Sweet with some classic mixed in. Now I love gothic almost as much as sweet.

>>7637349

>http://www.american-duchess.com/

Damn thanks for showing me, I'm in love with this shop.

>>7637885
>>7637895
Awesome, thanks. When I've finished the blouse I'll probably post it in the co-ord thread or something, get some ideas for what colours it could go with. Means I get to make some plain colour dresses as well, haha.

What's the best brand to buy quality shoes from? I really want ones that won't fall apart easily and can handle being in rain if needed

>>7638035
But this dress is still sweet, it's just black.

A black dress does not gothic make...

>>7637865
I have an 83cm bust and a 68cm waist and am fine. AP with full back shirring and no lacing looks a bit bulky on me, but other than that everything's fine.

What sizes (EU or US) are Secret Shop's medium shoes generally equivalent to? I know it's "23.5cm" but they also add an extra cm for extra room/varying sizes according to Martin, so I don't know if I should order those or not.

>>7638010
Many older skirts and non-shirred ones are quite small. Also I feel that I'm too big for partly shirred brand skirts at 66 cm... they just aren't that comfortable. I wish I was about 6-10 cm smaller. I own older designs only so idk if new ones are more forgiving.

>>7638324
They ADD?? My secret shop shoes were crazy painful! I'd say a full size smaller than I wanted! And I ordered to the exact length of my foot.
That and how crap the quality on them was they're the biggest dissapointment I've had in this hobby so far.

>>7638324
I don't own size M, but Secret Shop's size LL/25 cm had an insole of 25,5 cm. I would guess if M is 23,5 cm, insole will be 24 cm. I hope this helps!

>>7637865
You can always get them altered smaller to fit you better.

>>7638359
Also I'm the anon who asked about the sizing of Queen Bee shoes earlier. If anyone owns size LL or really any of them, could you maybe measure the insole? I'm really interested in them but unsure if they'll fit. Thanks in advance!

>>7637912
I wear gothic but am completely in love with pic related. I preordered the rerelease though I have nothing to wear with it, I'm thinking of wearing it as a casual dress, also because it's so short.

>>7637912
I wear gothic but am completely in love with pic related. I preordered the rerelease even though I have nothing to wear with it. I'm thinking of wearing it as a casual dress, also because it's so short.

>>7638365
Do people think these will go down a bit in price after everyone gets their dresses from the rerelease? I couldn't preorder it and was on the fence about it at the time of the rerelease/reservation, but as time goes on I want it more and more.

>>7638376

(not the anon you asked) If you take what happened to DDC as an example, it looks like the price of the skirts will go down, but the prices of the dresses will probably remain around retail, taking possible dips around sales season, and then go back to being retail priced in between sales seasons.

I guess if you wait long enough it will go out of style and eventually the price will fall gradually. Mind you, I'm talking very long term, Melty Cream Doughnuts was last year's print and still going strong.

>>7638376
It was pretty popular but I think it will be close to retail. Considering DDC didn't really drop in price BUT DDC fits a hell of a lot larger range of sizes. Cosmic fits a much smaller range and it's short which rules out even more people who fit the measurements but are taller than average. Already I've seen a couple of the cuts sold in the low 300 range and someone even had one up for retail a few weeks ago. Signs point to it dropping more once girls get it in and realize it's either not flattering on their body and/or too short for them

>>7637951
>>7638324
Thanks anons, this makes me feel very reassured.
If anything, I'll invest in some super padded bras haha.

>>7638361
I'm afraid to lower the value of a dress, but I will definitely consider that!

>>7638386
I was asking everyone/in general, so thanks for replying! DDC is probably a better comparison than MCD, since the latter was never opened to a made to order reserve. I'm hoping that, like >>7638387 said, the limited size range will keep costs low (i.e. retail or a bit above).

Also, what do you mean by "sale season"?

Do you guys usually have one source for feedback?

I have an eglfb page but I use fb comm sales and cgl so often that it's almost obsolete.
I want to keep it all in one place. :(

>>7638409
I only use eglfb and lacemarket.
FB feedback is pointless since it can be edited at any time and is on the most bullshit selling platform there is. Also, you generally don't have feedback for transactions made on /cgl/.
Stick to one (or two) platforms or get used to having scattered feedback.
Also:
> :(
Stop.

>>7638409
I'm making doubles (and offering made-to-orders) of designs that I'm sewing for myself and would eventually like to start a small store.

Is it enough to ask customers to write small reviews and take photo proof for me to keep on a Tumblr or something?

>>7638413
Thanks.
Also is it generally disregarded to go around getting feedback on eglfb or lacemarket?
For example, you post a WTB on both egl-comm-sales and cgl, and then ask your cgl buyer just to comment "PM'd you about the dress" on your egl-comm-sales post?
Or the same thing and just put a private listing up on lacemarket?

And sorry, force of habit from talking normally outside of 4chan.

>>7638299
Related. Wondering if AP shoes are actually worth getting. I'd like to buy a pair or two of brand shoes but I'm not sure if I'm just paying triple the cost for the same shoe that's going to get equally scuffed and scraped up. I've heard Secret Shop shoes are made in the same factory. I'm just wondering if anyone has a comparison?

>>7638419
If you've posted a WTB or sales ad somewhere else (like egl), then sure, redirect the person to that page and go about getting feedback. I've never bothered to make a private listing on lm, but I already have a lot of feedback and don't really care.

>>7638418
I would slip notes into your packages when you ship and add it to the last message you send to them (like, when you notify them that you've shipped the item) with something similar to "Hey, I would really appreciate it if you could snap a photo of this and write a little review for me after you receive the item! Please tag it as 'Anon review.'"
That way the customer has the choice and also knows how to go about making sure you see it if they choose to do so. You could then just had a link to all of the reviews (or reblog them).

>>7638398

Season sales? Like summer or winter sales. I noticed some extra bit of a price drop on secondhand DDC around last year's winter sales/lucky pack time (a few dresses sold below retail, dresses on closet child and usagiyouhinten remained unbought for a couple of days), but about a month after, the prices went back up again and the secondhand dresses were being snapped up really quickly, even if they were the onepiece and above retail.

I forgot about Cosmic's limited size range. As for MCD, cgl predicted that the secondhand price would be much lower, but it's still sticking to a higher price point. I think I meant to say that the price point might still remain high despite what cgl's collective says.

>>7638386
Somebody should write a book about lolita economics, because I have no idea whats going on half the time.

>>7638461
I think MCD is still going strong because it's not even been a year. It was released late last year (Nov.), and there haven't been any similar prints released yet (i.e. no super sweet food prints). The print still has a lot of hype surrounding it, and I'm not sure that will go away until something comes to knock it down a notch. I think the prices /will/ decrease in a year or so, though.

>>7638420
Secret shop and AP have about the same quality of shoes.

Requesting guide of complimenting colours and skin-tones?

>>7638420
I think a lot people generally avoid brand shoes because they're just okay quality for a very high price. You're better off getting SS shoes and investing the rest of that money into another part of your wardrobe.

>>7638479
Thanks. I'll keep my SS tea parties then, and just upgrade to nicer quality offbrand shoes if I decide to go to any brand events.

Help identifying this dress?
It's my #1 dream dress and I wrote down the name of it, but I can't seem to find it on Lolibrary anymore.
Did I write down the wrong name or something?

>>7638518
Nevermind, found it on hellolace.
Guess it's just not in the lolibrary database.

>>7638499
How the hell did you manage to make a post on 4chan when you don't even know where to find a search engine?

>>7638521
There's a specific one that's often posted on /cgl/ that I'm looking for.
It's very detailed and I'm totally in love with it, but I can't find it anywhere.
I've tried digging through the archives already, just wondering if anyone else has it to make my life easier.

>>7638528
this one?

>>7638536
Thanks anon!

I'm 170 cm (5 ft 7 I think). Now that I've lost weight I want to get into lolita. I know AP runs short, but I'm not intrested in sweet anyway.
How hard will it be to find dresses that look right? Or I'm I doomed to look like shit?

>>7638575
I'm slightly taller and it's not that hard. As a rule of thumb, I usually get dresses that are at least 95 cm long.

any good classic/gothic lolita blogs. I'm NOT looking for a noob blog or a lolita 101.

>>7638575

You indicate you don't like sweet and not very interested in AP. So you should be fine really.
Innocent World often does short and long lengths and so does Moitie, JetJ, etc. Aatp & Baby should be fine too, especially if you wear and underskirt.

pic somewhat related, would look amazing on a tall lolita. Plus mossmarchen is always good inspi.

>>7638575
I'm 2" taller than you. Look for dropwaist cuts or styles with adjustable straps, otherwise the waistline will be up over your ribcage. Wear your petticoat where the waist of the dress hits to get the correct shape.

>>7637912
For me it's Magic Whip and super pink pastel dresses from AP, such as Angel Pony. I feel weird in pink but I love Magic Whip so much.

>>7638630
unf. i need me some of this sweet sweet coord.

>>7638353
I know that older skirts are smaller, but even the skirts from the early 2000s normally don't go lower than 60cm. Current releases normally are at least 66cm.

I just got babbu's first new brand in the mail and it seems to have a couple of stray threads sticking out in some places. Is this normal or did I get a dud? I'm not quite sure how to deal with it. Usually I just tear them out from regular clothes, but I don't want to damage the piece. Do I just snip them off or could that possibly cause some problems with the seam?

>>7638733
if it's new brand you mean direct from the brand store, or from a secondary source (egl, lacemarket. closetchild etc)?
what dress is it, take photos of all the fraying threads and any flaws, and come back to us. if you really want to rid of the stray threads you can use a nail clipper, that's what everybody says but personally i work better with a pair of small scissors.

>>7638630
Where is that bonnet and blouse from??

>>7638733
I've had this happen with Meta and AP (usually little small defects, the worst I've found has been with AP). The only other brand I've bought from directly is IW and their construction tends to be pretty pristine, but I did have a wire poking out of headbow I bought directly from them once.

>>7638744
>>7638781
Brand new, from the store. I bought a JSK from AP.
There's an inch and a half long thread coming out of one of the straps and one coming from the organza(?) ruffle.

I'll try the nail clippers since I don't have a pair of small scissors handy at the moment. Thanks!

>>7638420
I'll say my AP tps are OK but if you ever have a chance to buy the AP engi boots at a good price I would recommend them. The material is a lot nicer than the knock offs. I own both real tps and real engi boots and their knock offs and I don't think the tps are worth it unless you find a good deal (60usd imo since people sell new SS for that price) but I love my real engi boots. 75 is I think a great price for the boots.

>>7638804
it cannot be a dud if you bought it directly from the official shop. you should be more alarmed if there are any other flaws though.

>>7634910
Holy bologna I wish Saturn's print was real.

I have a bit of a dilemma. I just received a ETC jacket in the mail, but as you ladies can see, the sleeves are hitting at an awkward length. Would it be a sin to get the sleeves professionally altered so they sit more at a quarter sleeve length?

>>7639004
It looks a bit awkward so yeah, I'd get it altered.

>>7639004
What do they look like just cuffed up? I would get them altered, they do look too short. Nice jacket tho

>>7638982
>>7634910
You know what? I don't care. I will make that print real.

In blue, pink, purple, Saturn, Jupiter, Earth, the Sun, and jellyfish.

>>7639004
If you do please post the results. I am too tall and I have always wanted that jacket (My name is Emily...) and if it looks good it would be so worth it.

>>7639023
Take my money!
And please don't forget about Uranus. This little planet needs some love!

>>7639004
I personally think it looks fine as is

>>7639051
Topsy turvy planet it is. Search spoonflower for "Solar system" occasionally to see when they get finished and posted. I'll tag all of them with it.
Though once the first gets done, the rest... are really just replacing Saturn.

>>7639064
Thank you Anon!
And last time I heard Uranus was back like a badass with 3 moons AND an atmosphere.
This planet is so awesome. It needs its own lolita line.

>>7639021
It feel a bit awkward since the jacket has zippers at the cuffs.

>>7639029
May I ask how tall you are?

Is there any way to make a dress with full back shirring fit more snug other than permanently altering it?
I just got my dream dress but it's so loose at the bodice, it looks sad. The waist ties don't help at all, I still look like I'm swimming in the thing.
The only thing I can think of to fix this is to add some corset lacing to the back but I'm really nervous about altering brand. My measurements are 3-4 inches below the minimum measurements for this dress. Should I try stuffing?

>>7638695
Although I wouldn't want the dress myself, knowing that someone likes it makes me weirdly happy

Anybody else get irritated when people on Lacemarket don't post the measurements of the dress?

>>7639172
i don't mind it, as long as they include the lolibrary link.

if they don't post either then they are the worst

I've loved lolita ever since I was in high school, but from what I've heard that my local comm consists entirely of fatties and unfriendly girls and my city is very alternative fashion unfriendly so I've never tried to start wearing it. Now that I'm in away for uni I really want to try, but I'm afraid of being a lone loli. Any pointers for a newcomer in the fashion, /cgl/?

>>7639115
I'm also interested in an answer to this. Two of my dream dresses from AP have full back shirring and no corset lacing.

>>7637136
Dolluxe?

>>7639238
You do realize that Dolluxe is just like false eyelashes, right?
Also GLW is shit.

>>7639264
Wow, kinda sandy there.
The shop is called Dolluxe and the wig I got from them was good quality. Also they sell the kind of wig that anon was looking for.

>>7639282
Not sandy, just sick of people promoting GLW after they've been so shitty the last couple of years. Also didn't realized they had changed the site name to Dolluxe.

>>7639287
I read people complaining about GLW, and I think they're overpriced, but for the one I got I can't complain about the quality.

>>7637136
I have the bodyline one and it's not bad at all. I wouldn't have bought it if I didn't see some other girls wearing it online. My only problem with it was that it's the wrong shade of blonde for my skintone. OTOH it's like $15 shipped, or at least it used to be, which is hard to beat. I would definitely buy it again in a different color.

>>7634529
Sort of related to this, but how do you guys like to carry around your parasols with you all day? I've seen people put the hook of the handle over their wrist, but that means you have to keep your wrist raised the whole time. I'd just carry it normally in my hand, but I have a tendency to drop things I'm carrying and not notice until a few minutes have passed.

>>7639319
Also they have every color in stock, their color system is just confusing in stock. But they have all the colors shown at the top of the page. I'm thinking about getting it in nphblack

I wanted to ask a really simple question.

How do you wash your dresses and tights? Dry clean? I want to wash a dress I bought that was used.

>>7639323
I have a ribbon tied to the hoof of mine that I just undo. It turns into a loop so I just loop it around my wrist so I can put my hands down

>>7637136
Thats me, and yes, it is a Bodyline wig.
In all honesty, its great quality for the price, imo. The fivers are soft, the ringlets are nice, the only problem i have with the wig is, it is a little messy where the curls begin just from the base.
But for the price, I'm not complaining.
Although, I intend to buy this one when GLW restock.
http://www.dolluxe.com/collections/ringletredux/products/ringlet-redux-auburn

Anon from >>7639115 here.
>>7639205
I asked a friend of mine and she said that if the jsk has adjustable straps, you can try crossing them and it makes it a bit tighter at the bust.
I just tried this and can confirm it does tighten it but it leaves a bulge at your back from all that excess fabric. My friend said she just pins it down with a safety pin. I haven't tried that yet, though, so I can't vouch for how much it'll help for sure.

>>7639289
Exactly, they're overpriced, but everything I have gotten from them is very nice quality. The bad presses just people complaining about the price and all the pandering to their "spokesmodels".

>>7639348
Dry clean printed dresses, hand wash solid dresses and everything else unless the tag specifies otherwise. There are guides for reading the Japanese tags if you just Google it.

>>7639357
Eh, my glw wig is worse than a bodyline wig that I own. It came to me rather frazzled, tangles very easily, and looks way shinier irl than in the stock photos.
As much as I think Choke is overrated, Lockshop offers better wigs for a similar price.

>>7639363
Which one did you get?

>>7637603
Maybe you could also add fields for each part of the outfit? Hard to explain in words, so I sketched what I thought of.

>>7639405
Not that anon, but that kind of looks like Lookbook's set-up. Maybe look at that site for some ideas?

>>7638781
Speaking of AP quality, have you ever found random small bundles of thread of a different color underneath the fabric?

I was checking a sax dress I just bought and on the inside of the bodice, there was a faded redish splotch. I thought it was blood and freaked out, but it turns out the color wasn't on top of the fabric but it was underneath it. You can also pinch and move the spot around the bodice, so I'm more inclined to believe it's a bundle of red thread than a stray blood stain. It kind of bugs me and I really want to remove it, but it's sewn in between fabric layers, so what can you do? I expect more quality for a $250 dress, though.

>>7639426
This happens to me all the time when I sew. I interline things a lot, and get bits of fluff and thread from the table or the overlocker stuck between layers. If it's under the lining, there's nothing you can really do without taking it apart. If it's a small piece you could just unpick a few cm, remove it and then slipstitch the lining back together. Lining is often slipstitched shut anyway, so it's not like it would drastically affect construction. This may not work if the lining is overlocked, though, although I don't know why it would be.

>>7638420
Tea parties are worth it

My pair have lasted me a year and a half of hard wear I highly recommend them

Don't buy from baby though, their shoes are shit.

would you shoot a girl for wearing this jsk without a blouse when its 35c outside?

>>7639842
Wearing something cut like this without a blouse will make your arms look fat as heck

>>7639842
I wear that without a blouse all the time. The neck is just too awkward for most of the ones I have.

I do throw a light shrug or cardigan on generally, but I'm self-conscious about my upper arms.

>>7639348

Care tags. They should be attached to your garment somewhere and will tell you what you can and cannot do to your dress. Then google "japanese washing symbols" until you find what yours means.

I say this because a lot of AP prints can actually be handwashed, a high number of blouses and other things can be machine washed. On the other hand a lot of simple dresses can only be dry-cleaned (I'm starting to think IW just puts dry cleaning on all their dresses for shiggles.).

Where can I buy the same hangers that BTSSB uses, or small hangers that are similar? I'd like my hangers to match, and also the garments just fit better on smaller hangers than huge US size generic hangers.

>>7639426

There's a bundle of black fabric stuck inside the front bow of my white memorial cake dress. At least the fabric becomes sheerer when wet and is opaque when dry, so the black bundle isn't visible until it gets wet. tbh I just kinda loled when I found it, I didn't really imagine AP would be making these kinds of mistakes. Haven't seen this in the rest of my AP dresses, though, so at least it's not a common thing.

>>7635924
My friend has that exact same parasol. It's chemical lace. Raschel lace wouldn't withstand getting rained on. Why are you commenting on an item you've clearly never held in your hands? For fucks sake.

>>7639405
>>7639413
Thanks for the diagram! I definitely see what you mean

At first I was thinking about just allowing people to tag their coord with multiple brands and adding some more information in a description field for their coord. Would you prefer seeing something more fine-grained like in the diagram?

>>7636530
Kill yourself.

>>7640120
I think the latter might be better, especially if you were able to implement some sort of search function. That way somebody could look through different coords with the item or print they're looking for. Might help people who are considering buying something but want to see it worn first, or need inspiration on how to wear something they already own.

>>7637603
You should consider adding the option to post it to Tumblr as well.

Bought a dress on LaceMarket last Friday, seller said she would send it out this past Monday and that's the last I heard from them and there's no shipping confirmation from PayPal.
Would it be pushy for me to ask about it at this point or should I wait a few more days?

>>7639842
Wear it with a shawl or light bolero. It'll work if you go for a more vintage look

>>7640314

It's Thursday, she should have taken the initiative to send you any messages about potential delay herself. I'd start asking questions and start counting down days left to open Paypal disputes at this point. Hopefully she's simply busy and will give you an update upon prodding.

>>7640321
Counting down the days for a dispute? A week hasn't even passed since she won the auction.

>>7639860
I think brand put dry clean on most things to save themselves trouble. I know that all solid cotton dresses I own can be hand washed safely but the tags says otherwise.
>>7639348
I would dry clean prints and some delicate fabrics such as velvet and wool, and hand wash with cold water & gentle detergent the solid ones. If your dress have a region of dark colour on light ones you might want to spot test the darker regions to make sure the dye doesn't run and stain the lighter regions (this applies to lace as well). Gently rub underarms,stains and neck area with detergent but try not to agitate the fabric too much in general to avoid pilling and snagging it (especially chiffon).

>>7638536
Anyone else find this retarded?

>>7640325

Came across a bit too strongly. I meant note the dates and put a reminder one day before the deadline on your calender. That way if the seller starts saying there's been a delay and she can't ship til next week and you give her some leeway, when the window for dispute is nearly up you will get a notification to go open one, rather than getting strung along and then suddenly realizing it's been two months and you still haven't received anything but you completely forgot when the deadline to open the dispute was and now it had passed.

I don't mean that you should panic or threaten the seller with a dispute just yet, I just mean set a reminder so you don't let the date pass if she hasn't shipped six weeks from now.

>>7639115
add some fabric loops on the back and pull some ribbon through it, like corset lacing. that way you can always remove it when you want to sell it without actually taking the dress apart.

>>7639868
Check the auctions sites, they have they from time to time. I wanted to buy some Moitie ones that were on YA! but they went for over $100, there were only 5 or less in the set too. Moitie fans will pay so much, myself included, but that's way too much.

>>7640365
This. You can also buy corset-loop lacing stuff. I can't think of the exact name - That way you sew two paralel lines of lace down the back and just thread ribbon through the lace.

>>7640365
>>7640420
The dress has chiffon at the back, will the fabric be affected much by sewing over it and then removing that?

>>7640424
Yes. Dear god, yes. Chiffon runs if you poke it hard enough. Don't do anything that anon suggest if the dress is chiffon.

>>7640120
I think included in the design would be great because it would make it so much easier to search by piece imo.

>>7638321
ah, ok. Sorry about that. Then I guess I like gothic with a bit of a sweet twist. I was all pastel before.

Do UK lolis prefer buying from US lolis because they basically spend half as much?

>>7640689
no, because between shipping and customs, you're not really saving anything. Plus a lot of US sellers are starting to not want to ship internationally.

>>7640424
Anon, is the dress you have Petit Patisserie, by chance?

I was thinking about maybe getting Bodylines L489 JSK in black, pairing it maybe with a white short sleeved blouse and red shoes/accessories.
However, I'm rethinking it since I'm finding it a bit hard to incorporate red accessories without pigeonholing myself to roses. I just really like Red Rose motifs!
Any tips for babbys first coord?

>>7637039
So I'm the anon who made this post. After the initial feedback it seems like you guys want something more along the lines of Lookbook for Lolitas?

My initial idea was to just create a really simple app with a monthly challenge, where users could upload a coord photo, write some comments about it, and then vote for their favorite coords for that month.

The feedback I got seems like you guys want fine-grained tagging of coordinate pieces for ease of search and to find worn photos of those particular pieces. Essentially like a lolita version of Lookbook.

I guess I'm not sure where to start. I could keep the app as simple as I had planned for a fun monthly lolita community event. Or I could go all out and create a lookbook clone for lolitas and also allow coord challenges through that site as a secondary thing.

I hope this comment makes sense. What do you guys think? Would a purely lolita Lookbook be desired among you guys?

It'd be super convenient to utilize the databases for lolita pieces already out there, like lolibrary and hellolace, but I'm not sure if they have APIs...

>>7641430
I also know, 100%, that any app that's created from the ideas here will be open sourced for the community. It'd be impossible to maintain a closed app all on my own and it'd be really fun to get to know others in the community who'd be willing to participate and help out.

>>7641430
>>7641436
Btw, should I keep these posts off the lolita general and create a whole new thread just to discuss this stuff?

>>7641430
I had a really similar idea and I have programming skills, so I'd be interested in helping out! Can you start a new thread? This might be really cool.

>>7638536
Not very accurate though. I know I'm a winter type, and this does give me cool winter, but a lot of colors given don't look good on me. The color swatches are also awful.

>>7634097
Same quality as the replicas except for some color differences only on certain ones, don't bother.

>>7639931
You obviously don't know your lace types at all, it's definitely raschel.

>>7636536
Yeah, I think those would be fine as long as the rest of the coord is also very 'elegant gothic', think Moitie styling.

>>7637912
Twinkle Journey and Brilliant Princess.

>>7638010
>>7638699
IW's usually have a min around 57-58cm, actually. Their skirts are great for smaller girls. Also certain cuts of AATP JSK's, specifically ones based on their signature Miranda JSK's pattern.

Is anyone else totally unable to add anything to favorites on LM right now?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lolita-White-hooded-bunny-polar-bear-puppet-Backpack-F-/400300727117?pt=US_CSA_MWA_Backpacks&hash=item5d33c85b4d
This ugly usakumya knock off remind me of Kyubey, eww.

I'm trying to piece together my first gothic coord. I haven't decided on a dress, this one is exactly what I want, and I'm fairly certain I missed the punch a month or so ago. By the time I gather all the pieces, I figure it'll be around late fall/winter, so I need some help so I can get pushed in the right direction. What do you guys think so far?

>Freaking out a bit. I accidentally popped a waist tie button off of Honey Cake. I was wondering where I could get a similar replacement. I would like to get something that closely resembles it. It's a honey-ish transparent half sphere button.
Please help. TT--TT

Found this on lolita fashion mentoring. HOW COULD YOU BE SO CARELESS WITH MY DREAM DRESS ARGHHH

>>7636840
Gonna breack it to you girls, but e is gay and happy in love.

I worked during every single release of CDC and I'm punching myself. I even tried sneaking to the bathroom with my phone but it just didn't work out. I hope the price doesn't shoot up horribly for the navy skirt.

Would these Melissa rainboots be ok for lolita coords?
Thinking of getting the Beige.


Also do you reckon these are real Melissas? They seem cheaply priced. I only want the real ones coz apparently they're comfy.

>>7642547
Oh god, link please?!

>>7642549
Theres quite a few! This is the one I'm going with coz it at least has my size:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/WOMENS-MEL-BY-MELISSA-ANKLE-BOOTS-SHORT-WELLINTON-WELLIES-EMBLEM-LADIES-NEW-3-8-/190878806433?pt=UK_Women_s_Shoes&var=&hash=item2c714371a1

>>7640365
You'll want some better ribbon with that! Maybe black velvet?
Btw I am in love with dark green tartans, what dress is this?

>>7639842
Wear an OP. Why do you girls set yourself up in these traps of wearing two layers?

Australia-lolita, out.

>>7639004
It's a nice length? Sure it doesnt reach your wrists but I think that'd only look awkward when its getting close to winter. This looks like a great Spring/Autumn jacket. Also 3/4 would look dumber imo.

>>7638630
whats this dress

>dat fluro pink as the only Pink option for deep Winter
kill me

>>7642566
oops, second comment was meant ot quote this >>7638536

>>7637912
I wear gothic/classic and they're all long-length dresses (95+cm) but dreamy horoscope was a satisfying impulse buy. I'm a sucker for constellations. I literally have a whole different outfit , petticoat and all, just to justify me keeping the damn thing.

>>7642547
I don't think these are suitable at all, anon.

>>7642310
Did anyone point out that there might still be an extra button attached to the tag?

>>7642404
I am happily in love as well. I just wish my boyfriend would dress like that.

>>7642404
>e is gay
Should have known, god damn it. He's gorgeous

I'm super new to lolita fashion: what's the difference between op dresses and JSK?

>>7643303
OP (or one-piece) dresses tend to have sleeves and a higher neckline (or some sort of neck feature like >>7642653 ), while jumperskirts tend to be strapless and have lower necks like >>7638695, the idea being you don't generally wear a blouse under an OP, while going blouseless with a JSK is frowned upon. There are always exceptions of course, such as with >>7639842, even though it's technically a jumperskirt you might be hard-pressed to find a loliable blouse that wouldn't look awkward as hell under it. In cases like that, as you can see form the thread, some people will recommend a some kind of bolero or shawl to cover your arms. The idea is to keep the skin on your upper arms and under your collarbone area covered, that's part of what separates lolita from other more "normal" fashion.