/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>7607956
Not ita, but I think it's safe to say that awkward Sears-tier photography like this is a definite faux pas.

>>7608024

What the fuck is this even suppose to convey? Like, there are no props, she's posing more like a normalfag than a doll and its not even a good angle for that sort of pose. This upsets me because it looks like she paid for this, as if a 'professional' photo in and of itself will somehow rocket her into internet stardom.

>>7607956
Does anyone know how old the hot mess in this pic is? I keep seeing her in ita threads and I wish someone would just take the time to tell her she looks like some lolita's aging mother who decided in her mid-life crisis she wanted to be kawaii like her daughter. Just cringey.

>>7608024
>>7608050
Looks like a convention booth set up to me, really. Plenty of people set up booths and snap photos. Some charge, some don't. Depends on the convention.

Were there any details in the tumblr post that said?

There's already an ita thread here:
>>7607929
I guess that this one has a broader subject, but we don't really need two at a time.

>>7608468
I don't know, but this is her LJ: http://aries-kitsune.livejournal.com/

>>7608024
I have no idea why she tought that tis shoot would be a good idea...

>>7608468
At least she isn't in YOUR comm.

>>7608902
>26
>mfw

Man, if I could, I'd give her a complete make over - hell, a pair of modern black frames would be a huge improvement.


also
>tfw worn lolita for much longer than she has
>she has a bigger wardrobe than I


>>7609461
How is she in person?

>>7609848
Have you seen her wardrobe post? The only way to salvage it is to burn it all.

>>7609902
I did go through that. Apparently, she's getting more brand pieces. I hope that she's getting rid of clashing/poorly fitted pieces while she's at it. It's a little sad that brand ita is a thing. For as long as I've visited cgl, I can't help feeling guilty about going through her lj. It's just baffling and yet fascinating to visit a blog like this.

>>7609954
She's getting more brand, but yet has decided against better blouses. She looks at her whole wardrobe and can't see that most of her OP's are not really suitable for lolita and that those blouses are ungodly.

>>7609848
>a pair of modern black frames would be a huge improvement.
No.

>>7607956
I used to think she was stuck up in person until I saw her a few more times, because she's so quiet and doesn't tend to initiate conversations. Not that she needs to, she has an asian bf who follows her everywhere and drives her places if she's lonely.

Her wardrobe is getting a bit better. She used to be a bodyline ita but I think she's taken a liking to cheap AP pieces. Now if only she could get her hair and facial styles together...

>>7607956
She looks like Napoleon Dynamite

>>7610877
omg Anon

Uhg, everything at Kyandi.

>>7611584
She looks as if she's two seconds away from throwing a tantrum. That rattle doesn't help either.

>>7611584
Oh god I saw this on tumblr yesterday. It had like 300 likes.....

I don't understand....

>>7611596
Could it be because she's fat and doesn't appear to be caucasian?

>>7611584
that poor girl has ballooned up so bad.

This is her from 2004.

>>7611584
>>7611645
What the fuck

>>7611584
>>7611645
Ouch. That's a difference. Did something happen to her? I mean other than weight gain, obviously. Like did anything cause this?
Reminds me of this one girl I knew in high school. Naturally super thin as fuck, ate a ton too. She had a kid and now looks to be 3-4 times her weight since high school.

>>7611668
Maybe her getting exposed everywhere as scammer?

>>7611682
Ohhh, is she one of the girls who sells those laser cut accessories? Details? Google isn't turning up anything.

>>7611699
Basicly:
>makes expensive 'jewelry' out of dollar store toys
>"Original, do not copy!!11"
>copying everyone
>not refunding people for not getting their orders

Some caps:
http://antikyandi.tumblr.com/

>>7611707
Her version looks like shit.

>>7611584
talk about bitchface, jeeeesus

"Harajuku style" oh Briz, when will you learn?

>>7608906
That's funny. The squinty eye. Shoe soles. That long tit .

>>7611707
Weird I bought from her and really had no serious problems. Besides a slight delay the products I got were beyond what I expected. I can upload a pic if any one is interested.

>>7611716
At least she's pretty.

>>7611716
It's like some things in her outfit match some other things, but the whole look is still mismatched.

>>7611716
This girl's proportions always look very odd to me. Her head is large for her body.

>>7611948
She has the proportions of a child. It is strange.

found this monstrosity on facebook. i kinda feel bad for the girl.

>>7612356
Looks like a shitty prom dress to me not j fash. Please tell me it's not supposed to be lolita.

it is

>>7612358

I think this is a cosplay though. A very Milanoo one.

>>7612358
>>7612363
>>7612356
Awfully horrendeous Ciel cosplay

>>7611584
Lol'ed at the bitchface/piggyface and the ageplay rattle
What's the drama about her anyway? Besides her being ugly

>>7611584
It sooo doesn't suit her at all,she looks like one of those high school fat bitches...It looks absolutely ridiculous on her

>>7612377
see >>7611707

>>7612356
Isn't this Ciel's dress....

>>7611730

Yeah I'm interest. Please post what you got

>lolita

>>7613692
meh she is kind of cute.

"gothic lolitas"

>>7613692
What's wrong with this? The bag? She probably thought it'd work because it's a sailor coord for a day on the ocean, but it still doesn't really work. Other than that, I don't see anything ita.

I want that bag though. Where can I find one?

>>7613722
Did you miss the heart shaped sunglasses...?

>>7613726
It's sunny ??

>>7613692
I've definitely dressed similar to this before...black dress and socks, red shoes and heart glasses. I just didn't have a cardi or shark bag.

>>7613726
Bring your vendetta to >>7608783
Her coord looks fine. A little boring, but considering she's on a ship and not high tea with her comm, the casual seems fine.

>>7613728
Those are straight out of the book Lolita, noob.

>>7613732
They were worn in the Kubrick movie but not in the book, stupid. They are aesthetically fine with lolita fashion and I higly doubt a lot of people would get this as a Kubrick/Nabokov reference, the lollipop is way much more emblematic.

>>7611584
How... does milky planet fit her?

Did she sew two together?

>>7613712
monsters

>>7613740
its a replica dude look at how saturated it is

>>7613712
Oh hey, it's that de laRatchet girl with the Mary Sue rori personas.
Didn't she make her own birthday even, literally stating "No itas allowed!"?

>>7613815
*event

>>7613740
>what is a replica

>>7607956
dem arthritis socks

>>7610852
Why do people think this way when they meet someone quiet/shy? I've never gotten that. I always just assume they are quiet/shy.

Look what rabbit777 found and is praising.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z5zMJmM5G0&feature=youtu.be

>>7614056
Speaking of which, she has a new video, and still will not drop the "~darlings~" fuckery.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1NqPa0z9wE

>>7614059
>implying the only reason she was ever on here was that she was chubby

>purposefully ignores shitty coords
>purposefully ignores shameless replica support
>purposefully ignores socially awkward weeaboo behavior

Also
>a person cannot be ita
>clothing is ita

gurl you are an ita through and through. don't even.

>>7613811
>>7613829
Yet she claims it is the real deal.

>>7613732
Heart-shaped sunglasses are not exclusive to Kubrick's Lolita, you idiot. They're not even in the book.

>>7614098
They were used in the movie and are associated with that shit, you idiot. It's obviously what she was trying to do. Quit being a retarded faggot.

>>7614101
You're the one being a retard, they're cute shaped glasses, they're red which matches the outfit, take your vendetta elsewhere. I see people wearing them all the time and never once has anyone immediately associated them with Lolita the movie, they're too generic dumbass.

>>7614059
>chubby
girlfriend, you're not chubby, you're fat. Don't sugarcoat it.

>calling /cgl/ a "hate forum"
top kek

Every time I see her videos, I want to yell at her through my screen. I'm a fat girl myself and I sympathize with being bullied for your size, but man, don't be surprised to find yourself on btb if you dress like trash. Even on /cgl/, a lot of people will step forward and say something if someone is posted just for being fat.

>>7614101
This movie came out in the fucking 60s, most people have never even seen it, and shaped sunglasses are completely generic. Stop projecting, you're making yourself look like an idiot.

>>7614109
but ur wrong tho

>>7611707
There are 5 posts on here, from 2012. Is there anything more recent?
I've never purchased from her online, but I bought some stuff from her at a con and she could not have been more kind and sweet, the stuff was pretty nice too. I'm not trying to whiteknight here, I'm just honestly trying to combine what I know/have experienced and what others know/have experienced.

>>7614117
literally only the first person who mentioned it actually thought of that connection, so, probably not wrong

>>7613692
this doesn't seem that terrible apart from the hair?

>>7607956
Why do you keep writing ita threat? It makes you seem autistic. It's also quite hilarious since it shows how much of a drama whore you are since only in the past 3 weeks have I seen it written like that. Stop.

>>7614059
LOLLLLLLLLL

Why doesn't she understand that it's her shitty self-righteous attitude that people hate?

On a side note, I think it'd be kind of fun to troll tumblr and make a fake ita lolita account where I start a campaign to have "ita" labeled as a slur and tell people it's as bad as saying "nigger"

>>7613692
everytime i see this i have a major longing for that shark bag and i cant find it anywhere

also the worst thing about this is that the dress looks wrinkly as fuck and her hair looks like shit.

>>7614121
She still copies stuff, it is not like if anything changed at all but people are tired of pointing out that everythings she does is either a copy or dollar store shit, right now she mainly copies Pinkly Ever After's mahou kei shit.

>>7614168
But most of the stuff she copies are items from anime that are being produced as jewelry.

>>7614168
copying the shops that are copying the original designs from various anime?

>>7613692
Oh my god she's cute. I love this.

>>7614170
>>7614173
Everything she does is a copy and the CCK resin crap she also copies is from no anime.

>>7613730
Ok the only problem I can see is the heart glasses

apparently they were popularized by the book lolita, and people might see the connection...? idk

>>7614184
no. no they won't.
any geezer old enough to have seen the movie isn't going to know the fashion is called "lolita" and any young lolita girl isn't going to have seen the movie, or if they have, they're not going to make a big deal about the *~implications~*

>>7614182
Meh, she's a craftsperson, not an artist. She's copying aesthetics, ideas, not directly copying and pasting someone's print or buying others' merchandise to mock up as her own. I could give less of a shit, whose puffy bows look just like someone else's or who actually released a lasercut "mahou" necklace first or whatever the hell.
I was wondering more about her interactions with other human beings? Like that one screenshot from the blog regarding someone who wasn't happy with their order, who she steamrolled

>>7614188
okthen
no need to bust out the *~ bullshit
calm down

>>7614188
But Lolita is one of my favourite movies. I'm a huge fan of Peter Sellers. Plus they remade the film in '97 I believe. So that's not really that old. I think it's a cute reference and she looks fine.

But gosh, god forbid some people like things.

>>7614191
i think the one who's afraid of people seeing a connection between a 50 year old movie and a japanese clothing style should calm down. the connection is so sad and superficial, it's tiring for it get brought up over and over again, especially on something as innocent as...heart shaped sunglasses. yeah, sure, I'M the one who needs to calm down...

>>7614195
>my favorite movie is about pedophilia and i love that it's associated with my eccentric fashion choices!

>>7614196
I said people may see the connection

What, in my post, says that this is an awful horrible thing that I'm afraid of people doing?

You're overreacting to me pointing it out. Calm down.

>>7614200
>What, in my post, says that this is an awful horrible thing that I'm afraid of people doing?
i didn't know there was anyone who felt positively about being associated with pedophilia. i guess i learn something new every day!

>>7614195
Not who you're responding to, but the case in point is that the movies are not popular enough to spark a negative connection. 1997 was still 17 years ago, that's not recent memory. Lolita was controversial when it first came out, but that's really washed over except for the tumblr-nymphette shenanigans and some people here and there. It's not as well-known as people seem to think

>>7614199
I don't associate it with The fashion in any way because the two have nothing in common aside from the name, but I'm not gonna get my panties in a bunch if someone wants to make a reference to it.

>>7614201
>implying I think it's a positive thing
>implying I wasn't talking about the sunglasses

Are you autistic

My original post said it wasn't a good thing to be associated with

you're whiteknighting a pair of sunglasses
calm your shit

>>7614202
Not to mention that the whole Nymphet fad made it popular again.

She's not ita in any sense, but do you guys think it's a faux pas to dress as a nun?

Found it on tumblr and she said it was in honor of easter, but still

>>7614214
What annoys me isn't the nun theme (I love it), it's the shoes and bag which don't match the aesthetic whatsoever. The outfit would have been awesome without them.

>>7614217
The shoes and bag for nitpick, yea

but I was just wondering if my "distate" for nun themes is an unpopular opinion

I just feel like it's a weird thing to do and maybe somewhat disrespectful? idk

>>7614222
>disrespectful
interesting. At first I brushed it off, like, "respect? that's totally ridiculous, who cares? at least she's not a slutty nun" but then if you think about it, if she were wearing a hijab, everyone would be all up in her asshole, tearing it up.
For me, the nun theme is just too costume-y. She did it really well, it's a great outfit, but at the end of the day, she just looks like an inaccurate nun, and not really like lolita

>>7614226
Yea, like I don't know the entire significance of religious clothing, but I feel like since it's still used and a very distinct thing we shouldn't turn it into a fashion?

I'm not sure how you'd make the nun op work in another theme, though

>>7614137
It's a joke that originated from a typo. You're seriously complaining about a harmless, subtle joke and calling OTHER people autistic?

>>7613815
Yeah, that was the greatest entry of Getoffegl ever.

>>7613712
Are those oil stains all over the bodice of the brown dress? Ew...

>>7614137
it's a running joke, anon. I don't know if it's the same person, but the first time it was posted was on accident

>>7611584

Fucking state of that...train wreck is an understatement. But in the Land of Tumblr and all things of acceptance, this is 'omg so kawaii girl of color and plus size so sugoi rebloggggg'!!!11.

>>7614259
we get it
you don't like tumblr

>>7614222
I feel like a nun outfit is fairly generic. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that there is not a gread amount of religious significance in the outfit itself (unlike a hijab)? If she was wearing a rosarie and claiming to be an actual nun, I would take offense, but as it is, it's more "nun-inspired" than anything.

>>7614269
I can't correct you since I have very little knowledge on the significance of nun clothing

I'm one of those people who just feels uncomfortable wearing religious motifs to begin with since I'm an atheist and I feel like it's offensive, so maybe I'm just hyper-sensitive to religion in lolita

>>7614275
Nah, I get where you're coming from. I'm an atheist myself, but I think it depends on the religion. Since Christianity is so rampant, the majority are pretty chill about it, and most of their symbols are ripped off other groups anyway, so it's pretty much meaningless if you don't put it in a religious context.
I feel iffy about thorn crowns and madonna headbands though.

>>7614281
I think I also have the benefit of people just assuming I'm Christian so they won't be bothered by the motifs.

Thanks for conversing with me about this, though, since I didn't really know other people's standpoints on it

>>7614286
No problem. I come from a super-religious background and quit church as a teen, but using christian paraphernalia never occurred to me as offensive, so it's interesting to hear why someone might feel that way.

>>7614275

I come from a family with a lot of nuns, and the general view of the habit is that it is symbolic within the religion and is not expected to effect people outwith that. Naturally, so long as they're not wearing pieces of a real, consecrated habit, nuns generally don't consider people wearing the style as offensive. They're actually a remarkably chilled out bunch.

>>7614269
>>7614296
That's what I figured, thanks for clarifying!

>>7614226
Well if she was indeed a catholic it really wouldn't be disrespectful? I know I personally really like the aesthetic of catholic imagery and crosses. Catholic imagery is more distant from the religion because of how heavy it was in old European art? Idk that's how I feel about it and as an artist I love the detailed work and the simple elegance of catholic themed dresses.

>>7614295
I had the same sort of background, but I think it's more of my family thinking that I'm ~magically christian again~ that bothers me, and I really don't want to step all over other people's religion on accident

>>7614296
Thank you for the information!

>>7614300
I don't mean to pick on this girl in particular, she was just an example

I didn't realize what I meant when I posted it, but I guess I was asking more for me, ie: atheists wearing Christian imagery

I agree that it's very beautiful, I just always felt like I'd rather look at it than wear it

>>7614281
With me I'm really damn insulted about thorn crowns used in lolita when connecting it to Jesus, I'm not a christian but I do find it highly offensive and disrespectful to see it used the way it is. Using it in a dark angel/fallen from heaven sort of artsie thing is okay, but when I saw some bitch wearing it as a connection I find it highly disrespectful as it was an item of pain and suffering for him and not some fancy bitches idea of fashion.
The Madonna crown I feel only belongs in photoshoots and in very fancy lolita areas and not for casual wear. The Halo is used in many cultures and is a good thing rather than the thorn crown's significance and pain.
sorry for the raving, but as a religions student it really bugs me to see thorn crowns being used in that way.

>>7614307
I completely agree about the thorn crown
I think that if I even was religious I wouldn't wear it, but I'm lucky enough that I haven't seen it used yet

>>7614300
IMO it would be the opposite. God only demands respect if he actually exists; if she believes and is playing dress up in the clothes of the more holier, then I would say that's a whole lot more disrespectful than if she had no spiritual connection to it and saw it more as a costume that has historical ties...
In general, I'm glad to hear that the nuns themselves are pretty chill about it (>>7614296), since it always seems like the best group to ask is the one you're afraid of offending

>>7614308
I have, it was horrid, she was posted to an ita thread I think about it too. It was revolting, I may not be a christian in anyway, but I still hold much respect for the man Jesus was(whether he was real or fictional he is my favorite part about the religion).

>>7614307
This, exactly. Someone in a recent thread she was wearing the halo and thorn crown together, and I was pretty pissed seeing that, it was tacky as fuck. I think we're talking about the same girl here. Halos can work though, I just side-eye them a bit since they're the latest fad that's slapped onto everything.

>>7614269
Hijabs don't have any religious significance though. Every woman is supposed to cover their hair, it doesn't matter what with, they're not blessed or sacred items. They're literally just pieces of cloth. If you're in an Islamic country it's disrespectful NOT to follow their customs and wear the hijab, in a lot of places it's actually the law.

Why do people keep saying the Hijab is some sort of sacred item?

>>7614315
I'm not very familiar with islam, so good to know.

>>7614315
Maybe to counteract all the negativity associated with them in America

I still won't wear one unless I am in an Islamic country, though, since I feel like wearing those as a fashion is even worse than wearing Catholic imagery as a white atheist

>>7614315
in America, it's super taboo for non-Muslims to wear a hijab. It's kind of an effort to be overly pc I guess? Also, I've read lots of articles by Muslim women telling people who aren't Muslim not to wear a hijab because it's disrespectful to their purpose and what they mean for the person who wears them + their relation to God.

>>7614323
Not who you're responding to, but I'm from europe and my country is the exact opposite, there was a lot of shit a few years ago about whether or not muslim women should wear the hijab to work. Depends on where you're from.

>>7614323
(to add on) All of the girls I know who wear hijab stress about how it was their choice to wear it when they hit puberty, and it's a special signifier of their loyalty to God. Without any loyalty to that God, I can see how it would be seen almost as faking it, or wearing it as a costume/parody

>>7614323
I can guarantee you only Western Muslims think it's not okay for other women to wear the hijab, just like only Western Indians think it's not okay for people to wear decorative (Non-sacred) bindis. It's just another form of "You can't do this special thing because it's ouuuuurrrsss!" In any majority Muslim country it's expected that you do as the Romans do; Showing hair is sinful behaviour and isn't okay regardless of your personal beliefs.

>>7614249
I demand a link pls

>>7614339

I haven't seen a single American Indian (the 2nd and beyond gen kind) tell anyone to not wear the bindi, only angry white women on tumblr. Everyone else is like "omg let me do it for you and omg you'd look so cute in a sari eeee~. Seriously.

>>7614214

Same argument could be said for military type outfits. I think a lot of veterans find it pretty offensive if you dress as them (especially ww 1 - 2 era).

>>7613815
Yeah she did. Except now she's not de la Ratchet, shes now ~*Rosette Pearl Gold*~, her new Pirates of the Caribbean OC/Pirate rori persona. She's a fucking mess.

>>7614474
Oh my god, what a fucking gem. I love how her idea of making a name is just [Shitty outdated name] + [color(s)]. Any new photosets or lulzy meet info from her?

>>7614474

Does she have DID or something/

>>7614059
oh gosh is this the same chick from pic related?

>>7614498

I think she just likes applying personas to herself. She hasn't claimed to have DID/MPD... yet.

>>7614503

Christ, I thought my nose was unfortunate. I've never seen somebody with a worse nose than me before.

>>7614497
Nothing really yet. She did for some reason decide to make a Rise of The Guardians/Sweet rori OC/persona named Sweet Tooth and made a cosplay/lolita event for her persona's birthday. Literally every OC/Persona this retard comes up with is stupid as fuck and embarrassing.

>>7614498
>>7614504
I'm pretty sure she's autistic actually? She did claim her father ~*Maximillian de la Rouge*~ didn't want her dressing in lolita anymore or something and was "forcing her to go emo again" or something. Does anyone know if she ever refunded the girls she scammed?

>>7614503
Does she know how to brush her hair jesus christ she looks like a mess.

The excuses on this one, christ
>it looked better in person!
>my camera doesn't capture detail very well
>i don't own any accessories
>this is the only dress i have
>also I don't have any lolita shoes
>BUT I'M NOT RICH
christ

>>7614371
As an american with Indian heritage, yeah. The only people who give a shit are the white chicks on tumblr.

Ah yes, NYC's self crowned queen being a giant mess per the norm

>>7614534
I think the dress could be salvaged if she took out the hearts at the bottom.
Besides that, she's a fucking mess and being poor doesn't justify her lack of taste.

>>7614537
That's a good coord and she's not a giant mess.

You're insulting her because she's African American.

>>7614537
I'm offended by her room. She can buy a $300 dollar dress but she has a zebra print sheet up as curtains?

>>7614557
Really? Are you blind? It's not because she's fucking black. The wig, piercings, sash and crown is what's making her look like a hot mess. It's a pity because she's actually a cute girl but she looks horrid here. Switch out the ugly wig, get rid of those hideous piercings and she'd look way better. Maybe add more accessories as well.

>>7614557
It looks godawful. If that's your definition of a "good" coord, I don't even want to know what you consider to actually be ita.

>>7614537
>dat makeup
>dat hair
>dat poorfag living space
>dat tiara
>dem piercings
No
Also, is she wearing the sash for a reason or?

>hatsune miku wig
>tangled wig
>no makeup
>horrible shirt
Why is people trying to be so "edgy" and wearing fashion that do not suit them?

>>7614566
>>7614570
If she was white, then both of you would say that's an average coord. I've seen lolitas wear a tiara and sash and it worked well with their coords. She's going for a hime coord and I think she did it fine.

She probably can't afford lolita as both you can because you are privileged and white. Show some sympathy.

>>7614619
lol wut. I definitely wouldn't...you don't have to be rich to do your hair properly. Take your tumblr privilege shit elsewhere.

>>7613692
This is so fucking cute!

>>7614537
her coord is awesome

>>7614619
God no. It wouldn't make a difference what she was. It could be improved so easily. And if poofing your hair badly makes Hime I'm going to cry. Hime is a harder style to pull off. That tiara is cheap and her hair is badly styled. Sashes can work but this one doesn't. Her socks don't seem to go either. I also don't understand why people don't think of what's behind them when they take the photo. But like I said it could be easily improved. She is cute. I'd love to see her try another coord. Do a more Sweet/Country style

>>7614214
I came from a huge Catholic family who went to Catholic school and all that, and they all used to watch that old TV show "The Flying Nun" with Sally Field. It's a pretty silly show. None of them seemed really offended by the idea of someone dressing in a habit for fun and such, so I don't think it's that bad.

>>7614537
Great coord. Don't know why this is in an ita thread. Stay strong gurl. <3

>>7614214
it would be a beautiful outfit minus the headdress/hat. She could have passed it off as inspired that way, but straight up dressing as a nun, deity etc, is just a little uncalled for.

>>7614631
So you're a racist lolita huh? Does your comm of PoC? If so, you ought to leave.

>>7614643
So you think the idea of lolita should not be a princess? You have no idea what lolita is and you probably can afford Milanoo.

>>7614655
I don't know which is worse: your typing or your insults

lol

>>7614503
There's a bunny trying to escape from her hair.

>>7614655
Racist? No, if that were anyone of any skin tone, I'd be critical. I'm really curious about your seeming lack of English skills.

>>7614214
Well all in all, a nun's dress is not a sacred item. Neither is a monk's robe. Both are more a kind of "uniform" and infact, there are a lot of variations for both.
If it were a cardinal's robe, then it could rustle some feathers. And even in that case, it wouldn't be that bad. Other than a few specific items, catholic attire isn't "sacred", so...

>>7614537
I can't believe this girl took a $300 dress and made it ghetto as fuck. She makes us fellow black lolita's look so bad, if I went to my comm dressed like this they'd think it was a joke.

Unless she's trying to make a new lolita style? "Yo gurl check out my Ghetto-kawaii cord? My sugar daddy gun bought me dis dress so them white folk gon think I'm rich as fuck! Frill fo life Mutha Fuka!"

>>7614659
>>7614661
I suggest you stop insulting her. It's a great coord.

>>7614672
You don't have to follow lolita fashion norms to have a great coord.

>Yo gurl check out my Ghetto-kawaii cord? My sugar daddy gun bought me dis dress so them white folk gon think I'm rich as fuck! Frill fo life Mutha Fuka!
Wow way to go on reinforcing stereotypes of races. She probably doesn't live in the ghetto and probably has an awesome boyfriend or girlfriend who doesn't pay her brand.

>>7614680
I never insulted her, I just said her hair is a mess? Critique is not an insult.

>>7614537
I think this is more of a nitpick--that hair and sash need to go die in a fire, but the rest of the coord is fine.

>>7614685
What you said about her coord not a critique. You're insulting her because she's African American. If she was a white lolita, it would be a critique.

You are disrespectful to her and very disrespectful to the NYC Comm in general. You are a very rude and racist lolita. You ought to watch your mouth when you try and critique a lolita's coord.

>>7614698
Wat.

>>7614698
Amen girl. You said it right.

>>7614695
The hair and the piercings, yea

otherwise it's plain but pretty cute

>>7614698
Are you saying black people can't have bad hair? Also, how white are you with 'African American' terminology. It's fine to say black, I promise.

>>7614698
shes wearing a fucking sash and cheap-ass tiara
also
>dat scene hair

>>7614706
I'm getting tired of people saying how they have problems with piercings in lolita. You think that her piercings might correlate with her smoking marijuana or if she had a nose ring it would correlate with her snorting.

>>7614707
African Americans do a good job with hair in lolita. A lot of white lolitas I see have poor white trash hair jobs. Also stop calling the lolita black, she's African American.

>>7614707
I'm honestly kind of offended, I'm an American but my family moved here from Nigeria when I was young...I am an African-American. Is she? Otherwise, she's black, right?

>>7614717
>shitty gross facial piercings
ah yes such refined elegance

>>7614717
Lol you've got to be trolling or you're a 13 year old white girl. Bad hair is bad hair no matter what race.

>>7614717
Nah, it just doesn't match the aesthetic of sweet or classic lolitas

I'm a gothic/kuro lolita with piercings, and I think piercings should stay in my category

>>7614720
You're both black?

>>7614714
You seem to be a person that follows all the rules for lolita and then call out on those that don't follow it. She's young and new to the comm. She did a great job with the coord.

>>7614726
You probably abhor lolitas sporting tatoos and those that pierce their nipples and vaginas too. Lolita isn't about elegance, it's a fashion. She has good fashion sense in her mind.

>>7614738
>Lolita isn't about elegance
>Lolita isn't about elegance
>Lolita isn't about elegance

>>7614059
She sent me a message a while ago complaining a dress I was selling was too expensive for a replica even though it wasn't a replica.

>>7614537
Her piercings make her look like a troll. The tiara and sash are extremely out of place and her hair looks like shit. She needs to work on her makeup skills too.
Its a good potential coord that took a sad, shitty turn for the worse.

>>7614754
Caps?

>>7614733
My family is from Africa, yes.

Stop feeding the troll guys.

>>7614537

The coord could have looked great, but it doesn't. She looks like one of my hood rat cousins who attempts to wear pretty dresses to look classy when out on dates and the shit just doesn't work.

Please stop being so easily trolled /cgl/ this is depressing to watch.

>>7614619
>she's black so she must be poor
B-but that's racist!

>>7614537
There's always something just really off with all of the coords i've seen of this girl. Its like, shes going the right way but then trips and turns something that COULD have been a good coord into a mess. Hopefully she'll learn?
And hopefully she'll change those god awful lip rings.

>>7614698
You make me not want to join the NYC comm. and I was so excited for an active comm, too.

>>7614619
>Not knowing the difference between an echape and a cheap polyester "Birthday Girl" sash
>Not knowing the difference between a Lolita-appropriate tiara headdress and plastic dollar-store noveties
>Not knowing the difference between a hime hairstyle and that overgrown Pebbles Flintstone mess.

Do you even know your own ass from a hole in the ground? A sacred burando model could wear this and fail to make it look good, jesus christ.

And that facial jewellry is so bad. Child, you can keep your piercings in, but get understated crystal-set bars and ditch the basic healing-period crap.

>>7614738
>pierced vagina
Hahahahaha babyfag detected.
You can't get your fucking VAGINA pierces, it's internal. You can get your labia or clitoral hood pierced.
And how on EARTH do non-visible piercings affect Lolita? Honestly between your "African American so good job, good hair four for you because you're bla- African American!" and your "You think the ideal for Lolita shouldn't be a princess? ... Lolita isn't about elegance!", you sound approximately twelve years old.

Go play outside.

>>7614825
The labia and clit are part of the vagina...the entire area down there is called the vagina, not just the inside.

>>7614829
Wat.

>>7614829
The entire area down there is called the genitalia.
The vagina is the interior of the genitalia

>>7614738
>Lolita isn't about elegance

WAT???!!! How could- I don't even- THE whole point of-

I'm calling troll.

>>7614738
I'm starting to think you're that girl acting like a retard, or someone trying to make people hate her.

>>7614829
No the outside would be the vulva. hth

>>7614619
>She's black, so she must be poor!
That dress is around $300 new, so...? Also assuming that black = poor is pretty racist.

>>7614672
>fellow black lolitas
Suuuuuure

>>7614869
This anons got it. The vagina is just the initial inside tube. Vulva is the term for the outer female genitalia as a whole. The Labia and clitoral hood are what get pierced. Learn your lady bits everyone, Jesus.

>>7614754
>Full shirring completely maxed out
That ain't cute.

>>7614754
I can't stop boggling over that unfortunate facial structure

>>7614137
>imagine being this much of an autist

>>7614244
I hate normalcools

>>7614888
Her nose is a bit pig-like, but I think she's pretty cute otherwise. Just poorly dressed and needs some proper hair care/some makeup.

>>7614503
jfc I hate her piggu face.
she looks just like this irritating arrogant girl I went to college with.
what is it with pig-faced people being smug and pretentious

>>7614754

>>7614829
>manfag detected
go back to /b/

>>7614754
god i hate people with faces like this.

bonus pic of her legs stuffed into boots because if she wants to be a martyr for being fatshamed so bad then here you go, loligothprincess or whatever

>>7615017
What bothers me more is that she's skipping every other shoelace hole? whats that all about?

>>7615023
Because her calves are too fat so the laces would be too short if she laced every hole because of how much they stretch out

>>7615023
My guess is that her calves are too big, so she doesn't have enough shoelace length to be able to utilize every hole and still tie it at the top. It looks like she barely has enough to tie it as it is.

>>7615017
>>7615033
This bothers me because it's the opposite of little kid dress-ups (you know, when a kid wears her mum's shoes to be a princess or something). Plus, you can get custom sized boots made for relatively cheap. They tack on an extra fee for the trouble, but isn't it worth that little extra charge to not look like you're trying to wear a toddler's footwear?!

>>7614537
Woah. Is it 2004? I thought this was a sceneXqueen reject or something.

>>7610839
Why not?

>>7615017
>have unfortunate thick tree trunk legs
>but when shopping for tall boots, they rarely fit, are way too big for my calves
Now I know who to blame.

>>7615017
It's to have more shoelace left to tie her boots and to have more space of her legs to fit. If she used every shoelace hole she'd run out of shoelace and wouldn't be able to fit into those boots.

>>7614754
What dress was it?

>>7614306
I was raised as both. No one would give a shit except maybe really stict and mean old people. They would just think it was a bit weird. The only way it could be seen as offensive is if you were pretending to be a nun.

Are people trying to find new things to find offensive or something? It seems that most of the time this sort of thing comes it, it's an assumption made by someone who doesn't know very much about people/the culture

>>7614313
Jesus got mad at a fig tree and cursed it because it was out of season so he couldn't have figs.

>>7614754
Are you in the Carolina comm?

>>7615095
Yes and I laughed at that post too, doesn't mean I shouldn't respect the figure.

About her hair, I have the same hair type so I'm sure she brushes it but that doesnt change the shape. In order to not have curly bangs like that you have to cut them into microbangs like rockabilly types do. It keeps them set straighter.
The more you know!

This is part of my comm. I can't even...

>>7615246
That's one of her better outfits too.

>>7614537
Isn't this girl from MD...?
She claims to be from NYC?

>>7611716
What the fuck she got on?

>>7613692
Vendetta?

>>7615246
Whoa guys going onto her facebook, she's a handler at ups. So if anyone lives near her don't piss her off, you wouldn't want this ita to conveniently loose your shit.

>>7615259
So wait. She looks like shit AND shes crazy? Wheres this girl from?

>>7615281
what comes via ups though? all of my ems stuff comes from the regular post office, as do the things I order domestically.

>>7615284
I get bjds that come through ups sometimes, games, amazon sometimes uses it for big things, a lot of stuff has come through ups?

>>7615017
dang, I just missed the deadline for this week's [LJ community name redacted because janitor-chan might baleete]. I guess there's always next week.

>>7615290
damn, the posted those secrets fast.

>>7615293
Holy shit. Even I wasn't expecting that. I was going to offer to give the secret to the mod for her to post it this week buuuut nevermind I guess.

>>7615290
>>7615293
>>7615300
my bad, I have a busy weekend ahead and would rather get it early than late

>>7614369
Anon delivers!
http://getoffegl.livejournal.com/585160.html

>>7615282
She goes by tamasenpai and I believe she's from MD. I see her at Metro meet ups sometimes, so she has to at least be in the DMV area.

>>7614506
m-my nose is similar to hers.........

>>7615259
I think this person mistook her for amanikitty from NYC, because all black people look the same apparently.

>>7615246
Because Jacksonville comm isnt terrible enough already.

>>7615307
no worries, I already submitted like 3 or 4 lol

>>7615246
I think that is her best yet, which is very sad.

>>7615246
This is the 3rd time I have seen her dress horribly. I have shown people who know nothing about the fashion her outfits then show what she was trying to aim for. They are horrified. Does St . Augustine have a comm? If not will be lone lolita

Are nurses offended by nurse lolita?

>>7615627
No, but my eyes will be. Why don't you just wear your "Lolita dress" on Halloween and accept that you're making it into a cheap dorky costume, and the rest of us can stick to wearing it like a fashion.

>>7614585
it appears the tiara and wig are due to it being her birthday or something. If so a friend probbly gave them to her and thus she would be obliged to wear them (that or she's a massive attention whore) but the wig has absolutely no justification and looks like shit.

>>7615572
Gainesville has a comm, if that's not too far a drive.

>>7615313
>I know this because I was there when she was trying to unhack it
>unhack
hue

>>7615627
Nurse lolita goes into the area of costume lolita, outfits more or less for a fancy costume party than what you'd wear on the streets. You might get mistaken for a nurse fetish wearer, but that one print by bunny and black is okay, the dresses that are like pure white or pure black with like the greek crosses you wanna stray from street wise.

>>7614698
nice b8 you got it r8

>>7614214
OT to the discussion, but I'm in love with this dress. Does anybody know where it's from?

>>7616316
Milky Ange I guess.

>>7616316
I think it's by Meta?

http://lolibrary.org/apparel/nun-op-long
http://lolibrary.org/apparel/nun-op-mini

I can't tell if the sleeves are the same, though.

>>7614214
It's very old-school gothic. Not the best coord, but something that was a fairly common theme 10 years ago.

>>7614655
I really don't think you understood anything that I said. Hime is a very hard substyle to pull off. I assure you I know what Lolita is. There are more substyles of Lolita than just Hime and the two I mentioned would work better with this dress. Hime is a lot to do with hair and make up. It is inspired by Hime Gyaru after all. And what's with the comment about that scammer for? I wouldn't touch Milanoo in a million years. Get over yourself dearie!

I want to know why she did what she did and why she thought this looked good. I'm sorry, but this is mind boggling.

>>7617095
Is she wearing a tank top

>>7617095
For one horrible moment I didn't realize she was wearing tights and thought there was something actually wrong with her feet.

>>7617095
>That hairstyle
LAWD

>>7617104
I think it was a cheap cheap thin sweater vest shirt with cap sleeves.

>>7608024
Really dark wigs paired with bright and pastel coords really bother me for some reason.

>>7607956
Her and that whiny bitch Crystal make lolita look like adult babies. It's awful- They really loo like kids that don't really know how to dress/groom themselves.

Using this thread to rant about my comm
Literally waited 6 years for this comm to come back up. it used to have 20 members now its got 130. sounds like a dream, but pretty much everybody but one person in my comm is ita as fuck. it actually pains me. plus they act really elitist, and they get all pissy about anyone feelings otherwise. two of them got in the newspaper and omfg it pained me.
90% of them are just cosplayers who also like the fashion on the side. most of them are stuck complaining about the brand whores that do not exist. fuck my comm

>>7614059
Her "lolita" outfits make her look like a toddler that can't dress/groom herself.

>>7614754
Her HAIR!!!! Has she never heard of a straightener? That's not acceptable, and I don't mean in lolita, I mean in general.

>>7617095
This is a disaster. She's headed down that ita path hardcore. Isn't she the one that asked a question about being a lolita not that long ago and posted some awful photo?

>>7615059
That's why I like it, actually.
All hail scenelita.

>>7617095
Why is her skirt so low on her hips???

>>7614307
I feel the same way and I'm a Christian! I really don't mind the halos or other religious items or imagery being worn, but the crown of thorns thing pissed me off to no end. If that happened in my comm I might just loose my shit and punch a bitch out.

>>7614503
Isn't that the chick who posts a lot of trying too hard to be funny things on the lolita humor group?

>>7615191
this! i also have this hair, i used to hate it as a kid until about...well, mid high school, when I began to really learn about haircuts that work with this type, opposed to trying WAY too hard to have cuts that look good on other people....also my goodness, some product or conditioner would do wonders, that hair is thirstier than Mr Yan at model scouting

>>7617762
fuck i forgot to mention that pic is unrelated to what i'm saying it's just some ita from my folder

>>7617784
Tina is judging you all

>>7614717
I have visible facial piercings, but if they clash with my outfit I take it out and switch them with different jewelry that will match my coord better. So there is no excuse to have gross looking piercings. Same with tattoos. If mine don't look quite right with my coord, ill cover them up with a shawl or long sleeves or something.

>>7617773

Well fuck you too, she's awesome and we love her.

>>7614754
She could be so pretty with the right makeup and a bit of a fix to the hair. Even if the curls looked a bit more controlled...

>>7616927
I think she's really cute, but fuck that poor skirt looks so sad without a petticoat

>>7614913
You have no eyes anon, look at that smug pig smile.

>>7617142
Cap sleeves rarely ever look good on those of us with large arms like that, and putting that skirt under her tummy fat is not cute sweetie.

>>7617752
It is her, I noticed she posts a lot in that group.

>>7617895
Not ita, just boring (need accessories) + socks are too stretched and blouse should be beige.

Come on.

>>7617895
I wouldn't call it ita, it just looks very lazily thrown together. Almost like those girls who post incomplete coords because "ZOMG MUH DRESS JUST CAME IN THE MAIL GUIZ IMMA TRY IT ON REAL QUICK KAWAII =^____^="

It just looks like she's trying to show off that she has a desired print. It doesn't look like she put any thought into actually coordinating an outfit.

>>7617935
She said in the thread she posted it in that it was just a picture to show that she got her stuff in the mail. It's just being posted cause seagulls have a voldie-vendetta

>>7608468
>mfw I saw OP's pic and thought it was from the 80s
Wow, this is recent?

>>7613249
Why those shoes? Also a bit disappointed she didn't do anything with her hair, a wig or some simple styling would make this a lot better imo.

>>7617937
>in the thread she posted it in
Didn't she post that in a draw thread?
Just seems shitty to expect effort from drawfags to make her look good when she didn't put in any effort, admittedly, on her end anyway. I don't get why people even post these pictures, they just look like bragging.

>>7617972
you must have been the sandy-vagged bitch that posted her

Quit with the vendetta. No one gives a shit.

>>7617980
No. Chill out.
>no one gives a shit
Exactly, shut up.

>>7614229
Yeah, I know what you mean. I also see it as disrespectful, but you can't really stop people from doing "themed" outfits like that. At least she's not a slutty nun, like the other anon said.

>>7617988
>admits no one gives a shit
>won't quit the vendetta

See, the entire point is that you shut up. You're the problem here

>>7614314
I really want to see this girl now, it must have looked terrible.

>>7617895
Stop your vendetta against voldie.

>>7618005
>one post opinion
>vendetta
You're an idiot. Meanwhile, the actual vendetta people are carrying on shitposting while you ruffle your bloomers over the wrong people because you can't handle a blunt opinion.

>>7614655
Why are people responding to this bitch.

>>7618020
cause someone shitposting on one thread to post her on an ita thread isn't vendetta
suurrre

sorry you can't handle MY "blunt opinions"

>>7614753
This has been the best ita thread I've seen in a while.

>>7615039
This. If you're determined to work with your size, you have to go custom or it's going to look pretty bad.

>>7618033
I didn't post her. Stay mad.

>>7618010
Aw damn I deleted it from my phone. It was from the Seattle (I think) ILD meet.

>>7618037
Right. Me too. LOL

>>7617793
alright cool i have no idea who she is i just disagree with her fashion choices in this image i've gotten from another ita thread a while ago

>>7611716
>tweety bird shorts

>>7614565
spent all her money on the dress

>>7617793
No we don't.

>>7614059
>>7614503
>>7614754
>>7615017
How old is this girl? She sounds like a high school freshman with all the, "We have to stick together, darlings~!!" And she really, really needs to learn how to brush her hair or get a wig if it's that difficult to tame.

I'm kinda getting the vibe that this girl wants to be another Peachie. Off-brand lolita, kawaii YouTuber, cutesy room atmosphere, trying to be all positive and "drama free". First off, if you want to avoid drama, don't even mention it. Peachie gets posted to BtB like every other week and she doesn't even bring it up, ever. She also has really fucking frizzy hair but uses a wig most of the time and actually wears clothes that fit.

>>7618695
I believe she's in college

>>7618695
She's 18... way too old to be acting this way, IMO. I think I heard somewhere that she's claimed that she can't wear a wig because it's too uncomfortable, but I could be wrong. I don't understand why she doesn't just learn how to style her hair properly... she could just ask her hairdresser and I'm sure they'd be more than happy to teach her. I don't think she realizes how bad her hair looks.

I have pretty wavy, semi-thick hair like hers, and I still wear my natural hair with lolita. I just put it up in some kind of updo and make sure it's all smoothed down (and I have shorter bangs so they don't frizz and curl the fuck out, like another anon was saying). I also don't blow dry the hell out of it when I get out of the shower and I use a shit ton of conditioner and hair treatments. She doesn't seem to understand that if you do wear your natural hair with lolita, then you need to know how to actually do your hair.

I also agree with you on the "she wants to be Peachie" thing. But she's too new to the fashion to know how to dress well or give good advice (and she won't listen to other people's good advice or ask for help), so it's just a mess.

>>7618748
She has some sort of condition that won't let her wear wigs or do much with her hair. It drives me mad when I see it because I just want to brush it. She tries too hard and while she thinks that the darlings thing is cute I consider is demeaning. We ain't kids. She never takes any advice so I don't understand why she tries to give any.

>>7618748
but Peachie is aesthetically pleasing

Just found this gem on Instagram.

#lolitafashion #kawaii

>>7618947
There is no such condition... I have severe problems with my scalp, but I spend a shit ton shampoo and stuff.
No matter what's her "condishun", it can't be impossible to wear a wig once in a while. It's not like she has tp wair it daily.
And even IF she has skin problem, what's stopping her from straightening her hair??!!

>>7618748
Peachie is very friendly and positive, whereas the majority of her 6 or so videos are her being a special snowflake and bitching about other people while being poorly dressed. She's a mess.

I think her hair looks pretty workable, it's thick and long, if only she would brush it and put it in some proper do or at least get nicer bangs, it could look quite good.

>>7611584
It has infiltrated my tumblr too only in a different pose ah. Wrrrryyyyyyyy.

>>7619154
I totally agree. It's just one of her many excuses when people try to give her concrit.

"Pastel lolita"

>>7621131

>>7621131
>wearing that kind of shoe without socks

>>7618335
Oh, the fuckery. Is that a guy or a girl?

>>7619132
Wa-Lolita is not a thing! Why won't people stop trying to make it happen? It's horrendous!

>>7619132
Maybe I have bad taste but I actually like the print on that faux kimono more than I do on most 'wa lolita' designs.
If it were on someone pretty, less fat, in a better setting, and coordinated better she could be one of those ebay models trying to sell weebs fake jap shit under the 'kawaii' tag.

>>7620215
I wouldn't necessarily call this ita. I would say that it just needs some work. Lady on the left needs a a wig or a proper hair style. Not crazy about those shoes either. Girl on the right is ok, but she needs a bigger petticoat (both of them actually), and accessories. Not in love with that hair either. I think a longer style would work better, and definitely a headbow.

>>7621131
More like a faux leather mess.

>>7621226
So tacky

>>7617793
>we
lol kill yourself whiteknight

>>7618033
jesus christ you fucking faggot quit shitting up this thread

>>7621226
Is this the "Shh no more tears" girl with the heaps of nice clothing but unfortunate as fuck face and bad makeup? Her face doesn't look so bad here.
Is she not wearing circle lenses like usual? If so, then that may be making a HUGE difference, she looks so much less creepy and unattractive in the face without them.

>>7613811
>>7613829
It's not a replica. You can tell by looking at the bottom lace and how it's gathered. I've yet to see a replica of Milky Planet that does that with the lace, or really with any of their replicas.
And the whole picture is saturated, not just the skirt.

But as to how she fits, who knows. maybe she got the tote and did modifications.

>>7621358
girl.
Who didnt wear a petti because she was doing "causal lolita" and kept defending the no Petti thing even though people kept pointing out it was still necessary even in casual lolita.

>>7614433
I love nun-loli and military style lolita is my favorite subtype.

>>7614717
Smoking marijuana isn't bad at all. Her facial piercings, however, are awful and disgusting looking.

>>7614754
>>7615017
Why do people who can't afford lolita insist on being a part of the fashion? I mean I can kind of understand it when the person is like a 15 or 16 year old... but from an adult? It's just embarrassing. And you can see her carpet and her room, she's obviously not that poor.. how do you get to be like 18, and the fanciest bracelet you can wear with lolita is that fake pearl monstrosity? I mean, come on, they're not even good fake pearls.

what a mess

>>7617449
You need to seriously check yourself, like, fuck the mid/late 2000s and fuck scene anything. Ugh, the memories.

>>7617744
>punch a bitch out

That's a very Christian thing of you to do...