/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

If you plan on making one yourself youre going to need more than one layer. So many people use one layer of tulle/whatever and it looks awful. The more layers the better.

Does anyone have the black bell-shaped CP petti? I've heard it's scratchier than the white one, and the lace is worse. Is that true?

What do you gulls think of wearing a petti in a color that doesn't watch? I got my first petti as a gift, but it's a bright color that isn't very close to anything in my wardrobe. It's a great petti other than that though, malco modes, sooo soft and fluffy!

>>7512484
As long as it doesn't show. I only have white pettis, I still wear them with gothic

Got the black one of http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.452.7Ax1Jx&id=19147470236 for a cosplay but I use it for lolita these days because of all the poof but it shouldn't be used at non-heavy dresses because they look like if they are about to explode.

I made a knee-length skirt with a sewn-in petticoat of dress net (like pic related level of volume, but longer and shaped like a cupcake top). How do I go about storing this/preventing it from deflating? I was thinking of sewing thin boning into the edge of the overskirt (where the ruffles meet the skirt) to help it keep its shape.

>>7512493
Occasionally it peeks a little if there's wind or my bag squishes it. Sometimes when I sit too.

>>7512510
Sounds like your skirt is too short or your petti is too long/you're wearing it too low. It shouldn't peep when you sit (though the wind is excusable).

what shape petti would I need for a sheep garden jsk? I'm new to lolita and want to get the correct petti from the beginning. I was thinking bell shaped?

I've been looking at getting a CP bell petti, but I don't really want the lace. Do you think I would be able to get it with say, a velveteen trim like they do for their A-lines instead? Since you can customise the length I was hoping that maybe you could customise the lace, too ..

>>7512508
Can you hang it upside down?

>>7512670
That's a really good idea! I don't have closet space to hang it, so I'll probably flip it inside-out and store it in its own box. Thank you anon!

how long should a petti be compared to a skirt? Also any cheap reccomends for a low poof below knee petti?

Are there any decent non taobao Cupcake pettis?
I don't want to use a SS(I will if I have to).

Anyone bought a petti from victoriangirldress on ebay? Thinking about getting one. Seems they are all a-line tho.

can i ask what the point of bloomers are?

>>7512698
imo if it's more than 5-6"it looks funny. If it's less than 1-2" you risk showing petti. Keep in mind you can pull/roll them up or drag them down, but only to a certain extent.

>>7513238
People will say they are about ~modesty~ but no. Unless you are an idiot who bends over with straight legs or walks to work in a wind tunnel this isn't really an issue.
Real reasons to wear bloomers:
-they are kawaii (though most are frumpy as fuck)
-warmth in winter
-sometimes look cute peeking under skirt
-ones with many layers can add to your poof
-going up a tall escalator or stairs
for ~modesty~ you can just wear comfy shorts or whatever else.

I own four pettis right now

>victoriangirldress petti
>CP A-line
>CP cupcake
>Long offbrand petti (actual brand is Hellbunny)

I wouldn't mind getting one more, maybe a super low poof one if I want to do a casual outfit or something. I could probably just make one myself, though, it'd be good practice.

>>7513034
I got my CP pettis through aliexpress!

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Classic-Dolls-Lolita-Glass-Yarn-Slip-Lining-Skirt-Pink-Blue--Black-White-Free-Size-Free/1512058417.html

>>7513238
Modesty, because there are plenty of horror stories out there where people have literally gone up to lolitas and lifted up their skirts to see what is creating the 'poof' as if it's actually okay to do such a thing. Plus, an unexpected windy day.
Also, for sheer comfort. Even though some petticoats have an inbuilt slip, most don't and they can be very scratchy against your legs, even with stockings on.

>>7513937
Wtf. People do this?!

>>7513957
Yup. Different anon, but I've had it happen twice. Once at a convention when I was talking to a friend running an artist alley booth, once when I was out in public, waiting in line to get a bus ticket.

Just got Malco Modes in the mail today! 580 and 582 (search for Zooey and Jennifer on the MM website). I haven't tried them on as I'm too exhausted at the moment but the 582 is so extremely fluffy that I'm sure it will turn up light fabrics at the ends so I'll be great for heavier fabrics. The 580 I'm a little worried may just not be enough poof for an A-line but I'll try it on later and see. They're both very soft and nice to the touch, with buttons to expand the waistline which is great. No in-built slip so maybe I should finally invest in bloomers, as I've gotten away with it with my CP cupcake petti so far.

>>7513937
I've heard of strangers coming up and doing it many times, but personally I've only had friends do it but it's kind of an uncomfortable "well, it's a friend so it's kind of okay to be curious and look..."

>>7513961
Wheres a good place to buy bloomers?

>>7512495
its seriously as poofy as the stock image? care to take a photo of what you received? looks like a ballet skirt with so much poof

>>7512617
I've never seen them add velveteen trim... if so thats seriously my next purchase

Ask clobbaonline or whoever you're ordering from if you can do it. if not then prepare the seam ripper.

>>7512698
for a low bell poof I use a shitty eBay costume petti
there's CPs "everyday petti" but its kinda aline

>>7513244
You're retarded

You don't need to be in a wind tunnel for a skirt to fly.
That said anyone shorter than 5'2 probably wont have the problem and need to be "~modest~". If you're something like 5'5 and you're wearing AP walking in a big open area one mildly breezy afternoon without some shorts on prepare for some embarrassment

>>7513999
Depends.
Cheap x nasty > bodyline (scratchy)
Expensive x luxurious > Baby (beautiful and soft but $80+ for bloomers is a bit steep)
Sometimes the best petticoats are handmade to be honest.

>>7514032
This
Only girls who overstuff their skirts with petticoats to the point they don't even move anymore wouldn't have to worry about fabric moving about with the wind

I need my first A-line petti, any taobao recommendations? I'm also on a bit of a budget.

>>7514287
show us the dress first imo

>>7512495
Do you have any pictures of it worn? Also, how much was it after shipping/shopping service, if you don't mind me asking?

>>7514287
Sorry, that slipped my mind. I had a moment of weakness but now that I have it in person it looks a lot better than I thought it would.

>>7514358
That would be a bell shape.

>>7514358
Thank you!

Where does one buy long petticoats? Thats the onl thing that stops me from buying the long cuts of IW's dresses.

>>7514402
Someone (possibly you) asked me where I got my petti that I wore with my Rose Stained Glass skirt in another thread, but seeing as that thread has gone to shit I'll post it here LOL.
This is the petticoat I bought:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281205332417?var=580248972599&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Another anon recommended it in one of the previous petti threads and for the price I figured it was worth a shot. It's the perfect length for my skirt, but the material is a tiny bit problematic. It's a very stiff organza and it misbehaved quite a bit when I was moving around just to take photos, sometimes the dress would catch between uneven lumps in the poof and resulted in weird creasing/bunching (pic related). I was actually going to make a petti thread in the next day or two if one didn't show up, I have virtually no experience with this material so I don't know if there's a way I could soften/relax this petticoat. I've had it airing out for a few days hoping the weirdness would kind of fall out of it, but it's still as stiff as ever.
Worse case scenario I have to wear a separate slip with it, which wouldn't be so bad I guess (even though the skirt has one built in). It's just a pain in the butt, lol.

>>7514465
Ooh, yikes, I have something similar coming in the mail. Maybe if you handwashed it, it might soften it up?

I personally bought a rockabilly petti from a local store, it ended up being 65 cm. I wore it with pic related, the poof was nice because it's chiffon and the length ended up being OK once I pulled the waisband up high enough.

>>7514487
Chances are good that handwashing will soften it, I just haven't tried it yet because I've been busy. And honestly if for some reason I manage screw it up, I won't be out a lot of money so I'm not extremely worried lol. If all goes well I'll come back and post about it though!
One thing I can't complain about here is the length (lol). It was absolutely perfect for this skirt length, I could move and jump and do all kinds of things without it peeping or making an ugly shelf at the bottom, so that's a plus!

>>7514487
also dat fancy egg
polite sage for dress lust

I only have one petticoat because I just got into the fashion. I wanted a cp one but my SS said they were sold out when I made a taobao order. The one I have is just one I made myself, it's super ugly but it also gives a pretty good amount of poof. It was just nylon netting sewn in tiers and then gathered bridal tulle over top so it would be smoother.

>>7514536
kind of a pointless story without a picture and your method

>>7514557
My petticoat is at a friends place right now but I can post a picture when I get it back, which will hopefully be tomorrow. But here is a worn one, it doesn't look very good here, I had been wearing it all day and had been sitting down for a large part of it and had no time or place to rearrange it. To make step by step I can write it out.
>figure out desired length of petticoat (plus seam allowance)
>divide by three
>cut up nylon netting into strips that long.
>decide how much gather you want per tier
>I can't remember the exact that I used buy I think I went
>waist measurement x 3 first tier
>" x 5 second tier
>" x 6 third tier
I don't recommend these though because it ended up having too much volume at the bottom and I had to cut triangles out at the bottom to make the shape more bell like.
>gather them and sew them together.
>make waist band by just folded over material
>wide enough to get over hips to get on
>sew nylon part on.
>cut bridal tulle to length of petticoat
>gather and sew onto waist band
>put elastic though waist band.
That was pretty much it I guess. There are probably a lot better methods out there.

>>7513961
Tried on the MM pettis.
I was right about the 582 being so super fluffy that lighter fabrics just wouldn't work, it sort of makes a concave instead of being straight lines or convex. It did however, look fantastic with a heavier fabric (I used AatP's Operetta Bouquet jsk which is an almost denim-like fabric, very heavy) and I imagine it would work just as well with a velvet Baby dress which generally tend to crush pettis with their weight from my experience.
The 580 was just perfect with a standard light dress though if it does deflate or people like a lot of poof, layering with a smaller (flatter/cheaper) petti wouldn't go astray.
Verdict:
I highly recommend the 580 for a beginner who is intending on having a substantial A-line closet.
I would strongly recommend the 582 for anyone in colder climates who would wear a lot of thicker or heavier fabrics or those that choose to wear heavier prints released by AatP and the like.
I would say that most lolitas with a substantial wardrobe and are fully engaged with the fashion should own both petticoats, but most certainly the 582 if they have a variety of fabrics in the wardrobe as I do (I have my wardrobe separated into winter/summer items).
MM are a bit pricey and can hold up to brand prices but they are well worth the price, I am very impressed with the quality and know a large portion of the community own these petticoats.
Hope I wasn't too confusing and happy to answer any further questions!

>>7514012
Clobbaonline offers a CP 'luxury' A-line petti that has a velveteen trim.

Any suggestions of characters that wear petticoats?

>>7518271
if they have a poofy skirt they wear a petticoat

this is a weird and vague question

>>7512602
just get a bell shaped petti it pretty much goes with everything

>>7512617
just tell them you don't want it, though I have one and it's really nice lace, love it.

>>7514402
i just bought a 26" petti from teresashine on ebay, it's definitely not as nice as my CP petti but it will do

I just got my CP bell-shaped petti this past October but it seems to be losing its poof already...? Any tips on how to make it fluffy again?

I use a F+F petticoat. I bought it a year ago and it's still pretty poofy. I once tried layering it with a medium length Leg Avenue petti and it gave me some glorious AP poof. Wish I had photos of that.

I need to get a petti by anime expo. Any suggestions of what I should do? I already have a taobao order processing and I can't add onto it, I asked my SS already.

>>7521398
have you tried victoriangirldress on ebay?

>>7513234
I've got one and it's not bad.

>>7513234
Definitely a line. They're okay, but kind of low volume. Then again, I'm a fattychan so it might look poofier on someone thinner.

>>7513234
I've got a petty from VGD, it is a-line but you can pin it up to make a soft bell shape if needed.
Pic related. this thread explains a bit about it.
http://egl.livejournal.com/15603459.html

>>7522080
Nope, you are right its not that poofy. I'm thin and after the first few wears it deflated to a very causal poof.


OP if you want something to fit nicely under - lets say- a AP dress. IMO 1 VGD petti = casual
2 VGD petti = nice full effect. 3 VGD is probably runway tier/ probably pushing it.

>>7513999
I've seen some nice ones on etsy. One of my favourites was from Angelic Pretty.

Has anyone ever bought brand petticoats? Are they worth it?

>>7514602
With the waist measurements, I went with 2x, then 4x then 8x my waist in my tiers.

>>7514741
Just bought a 582 because my velveteen dress and cotton drill skirt crush my Victoriangirldress petti, I'm glad to hear it was a worthwhile investment!

>>7521992
I just read a few reviews and I think this is the perfect (temporary) solution for me, thank you so much for suggesting it. Is there anything I should be aware of as a first-time buyer of them?

>>7522921
same anon here, I just found this petti and I'm wondering if it will be a decent shape for my bell-shaped items.

>>7522983
they are much more bell shaped under a dress. I would actually not use a VGD petti to achieve an a-line shape at all, though they are not as 'cupcake' as some others. people describe them as a 'soft a-line' sometimes, but I think they really just fall into a bell shape under a dress.
>>7522279
I have an AP petti from the special Dream Fantasy pack and I love it. It's basically my go-to petti for just about anything. I do like a lot of poof though, so I do layer it. I own a lot of pettis for comparison:

CP Bell
CP regular A-line
CP 'super explosive' a-line
AP LP Bell
AP Long black layering patti (great for empire waist dresses that don't need a ton of poof, like dream sky, which is what I wear it with if I'm not using it for layering)
IW light layering petti
VGD
Malco Modes 582 (I have not modified this, I use it for a long petti for dresses like the long KL jelly fish jsk for example)
Dear Celine Embroidered bell
Dear Celine 'frothy' (I think it's the one in OP's picture) bell

>>7522983
This petti is A-line, which can look OK, but sometimes the space near the top of the skirt will look kind of funny (because there's more fabric there, but less poof). It's a really easy fix though, just take the first layer of the petti and tuck it up into the waistband in five or six places, it'll create more of a bell shape.

I did this before I had a separate bell petti.

>>7522997
Which petti (out of the ones you have, of course) would you say is the best in terms of poof?

>>7523007
well the biggest poof is the super explosive a-line. It's insane. but I don't own that many a-line specific dresses so I don't wear it often. I usually go with my AP bell layered with my IW petti to get a good cupcake shape.

pic is the super explosive a-line on just a dummy, so you can imagine sticking in some legs pushes it out even more.

>>7523013
CP has a couple a-lines, is the exploding petti the most expensive one?

>>7523085
..oh no there is literally a petticoat called super explosive version on the page omg

>petticoat super explosive version 2.0

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5.w4002-189500549.53.AXGgJu&id=9259665184

>>7523085

The most expensive one (137 yuan) is actually an even more explosive A-line (they claim 20% more poof lol). I have the 'regular' violent A-line and that's way more than enough. It's 109.9 yuan and the picture is this.

>>7523094

Jesus I know. I want to order it for the luls but I know I'll never be able to wear it ever.

>>7523097
oh good to know! thank you anon!

>>7523085
>>7523094
oh sorry, yes that's the name haha, that link is correct!
>>7523097
wow, they made an even BIGGER one? holy crap.

in terms of quality though, both the CP a-lines I have are pretty bad. The 'daily' a-line (I don't remember what it's called, but it's the one most people buy from CP for a regular a-line) came to me smelling terrible with holes in all the tiers (out of the package) that I had to sew. The length was listed wrong, or at least the one I received was 3-5 cm shorter than the listed length, so maybe they sent me the wrong one? And the fabric is this weird crinkly mess that never relaxed. The super explosive's has a completely different material which is nice, but also had a hole in it from the package and is extremely delicate and a couple more holes opened up just from me putting it on my dummy.

My bell however is great, never had a problem with it.

In terms of longeavity I ranked AP > CP > VGD > DC (not including my layering pettis since they have not a lot of volume anyway).

The DC ones deflate pretty badly within a year, and I don't wear my VGD much because it's deflated a bit which makes skirts lay weird on it. But CP and AP are holding in there really well.

>>7523101
>>7523097
>>7523094
>>7523085
Watch out, though. I thought I ordered the "regular explosive petti" and ended up with a pretty lame, 2-layer a line that is about as good as good as my deflated VGD.
I'm not sure if quality has gone down or my order got mixed up or what, but damn was I disappointed.

>>7523120

... I think they might have accidentally given you the daily A-line. I have that and the violent A-line, and while it's definitely not dramatic (I wouldn't wear it to a meetup) it's nice for casual everyday stuff if you're into daily casual lolita-ing.

>>7522983
all of Victoriangirls' pettis are A line.

So I have 4 Bodyline petticoats (don't judge, they make good filler) and a Classical Puppets Bell Shaped Petticoat that I think is starting to lose it's fluff.

Will hanging it in my closet upside down when I store it help restore some of it's foofiness or will it only delay the inevitable?

>>7522823
Where you doing an A-line or a bell?

My petti is tulle and it picks up hair and fluff... does this happen with any other kinds of material?

What would be the best a line pettis?

>>7526116
VGD and CP A-line.

>>7526116
>>7526122

>>7526116
Malco modes are the absolute best if you don't want them to deflate at all.

>>7526125

They're really, really soft as well. I don't get that horrible itchy scratching like you can get from rougher materials.

>>7526125
>>7526130
Are there any petti comparisons of Malco Mode pettis?

>>7526133
I can make one with the 580 and 582 later today, if there aren't any

>>7526125
Thank you. I think that might be my next purchase. It's badly needed.

>>7526264
Would be cool if you could make one! Do you have other pettis to compare to?

>>7526130
That's even better. I hate the feel of scratchy fabric.

What kind of material would hold up best under very heavy fabrics like velveteen?
I tried DC's Frothy but it deflated so fast.
There is so much to choose from, tulle, organdie, chiffon, etc.

I am looking for a "stiff" petticoat for pic related, anyone have any suggestions for affordable or reliable places to buy? Thank you.

>>7528290
I don't, unfortunately; I have a cp a line petti ordered but I won't have it until July

>>7528573
Can you take pics of your MM pettis anyways?

What would you recommend for an ankle-length dress like this one? I can't really find anything that would be the right shape.

Question, what kind of petti would you wear for empire waist dresses? also would I have to hike it up or just wear on my waist as normal?

>>7533086
I wear an A-line at my waist for all my empire waist dresses. Since I prefer the look of causal poof with an empire waist depending on the dress I sometimes forgo the petti and use a fluffy chiffon underskirt.

>>7533081
Pic related, something like it atleast.
>>7533086
I think a-line works the best, doubt you need to hike it up, and if you would notice that best yourself when trying it on.

>>7513238
For me, I wear bloomers to keep my thighs from rubbing together and getting all sweaty and uncomfortable. Plus, it covers up your underwear and can add poof.
>>7513244 covered it really well.

What material is bloomers made out of?
I want to make my own pair.

>>7533182
It depends on how you want your design to be but I would say cotton would be a safe choice, and then you can look at the different kind of fabrics and see what you like.

>>7514602
Hey there! I have that same dress in the black colorway and it's my favorite. Polite sage for no contribution.

>>7522279
I have a BSSB 'casual' one. I bought it two years ago and now it gives a nice shape over another one but no poof at all. I don't think Baby's are worth their price tag

I hate CP's a-lines. They're either too poofy or not poofy at all. I want something that isn't too poofy. I had one of dollscrop's a-lines, but it got torn by accident, and until now I can't find back a perfect a-line petticoat...

>>7534199
CP A-line will deflate after a while, I think it's perfect after it deflates a little.

does anyone know where to find a cheap petitcoat about 20$?

>>7540107
victoriangirldress on ebay.

or thrift stores, if you're lucky.

>>7533086
I wear a long a line petti hiked up and tucked into my bra with my AATP empire dresses

>>7513238
I also wear bloomers to keep my petticoats from going in between my thighs when I walk. It's the most awkward thing

>>7512440
I just made a cupcake petti and the most time consuming part was ruffling. With a ruffler foot it could be done in an hour or two using basic math and about $20 worth of materials (if you don't have a coupon).

Best thing is you can make them any color you want. Rainbow pettis for itas everywhere.

>>7513999
I have a bunch from the LJ user ririnhime, they're nothing super special but they do the trick and are comfortable. I have some flannel ones from Ick too and they're comfortable and toasty as hell for cold northern winters. Personally, I cba to pay brand prices for undergarments, though if you like peeking bloomers you may want to consider brand.

>>7514402
I've mentioned this in other threads but I got a customized length A-line petti from Fanplusfriend and it's actually my best volume/shape petti. The exact model I have doesn't seem to be on the new site though it's basically the same as the Omnipotent one in construction I think, you just need to let the tulle crunch down (yes, purposely deflate your petti) so that it's voluminous without being crazy stiff and wide.

>>7512508
Starch it and hang it upside down.

>>7513999
I got mine from an Etsy shop called "Basic Love."
They're cheap and pretty nice quality, though the fabric is a little thin so you have to wear the appropriate color underwear if you don't want them showing through.

>>7533396
It's a really cute print isn't it? I actually really like it in yellow as well.