/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>7484322
BECUZ COSPLAY IS ABOUT HAVING FUN!1!1!!1!!!1

In all seriousness, it's because they're in denial. They know that they're fat and want to be treated like someone with a handicap and expect people not to point out the fact that they look nothing like what they're cosplaying. Just look at how cunty they become when a prettier girl with a better body comes along and cosplays something.

I don't know, but it's like a moth to a flame thrower. Look at AOT cosplay.

>>7484322
Is she curling her toes in those shoes...? Are those her daughter's slippers or something?

So that people who are in deep denial about the fact that we are all a bunch of idiots in dumb costumes have someone to mock and feel superior to.

>>7484322
Vendetta! She's not even that fat.

Most anime characters are fit, while a big proportion of anime fans are overweight. Is it really that hard to understand? They apparently don't see their own body type as an obstacle.

>>7484376
I think OP means characters who are supposed to be in shape because of what they do. Not just schoolgirl character #45

>>7484322
>>7484388
She's not even that fat, if her costume didn't fit like shit she could maybe even pull off a fit character.
True, ballerinas are extremely fit and skinny, but really, even a majority of slim/skinny cosplayers don't have a ballet body.

>>7484408
The gut hangs over the skirt.

>>7484329
....Cosplay isn't about having fun? That's what it used to be about, anyway. It's depressing to see how much the cosplay community has changed in 10 years.

>>7484416
Don't cosplay a super thin ballerina if you're not super thin
Is it that hard to comprehend?

>>7484416
Cosplay is about having fun, but it's also about resembling the character you're cosplaying. If you dress dramatically outside your body type you're going to look like shit, cosplay or not.

>>7484418
This. And, it even applies to regular clothes. If you're a fat dumpy bitch and you squeeze into a tube top clearly not meant for your size, you will look like shit.

>>7484418
Yeah, nobody should ever cosplay a character of a different race, either.

>>7484431
Oh shut up and back to tumblr

>>7484413
The gut is showing, but because the top rides up. There's not a huge belly hanging out.

Because some people want to cosplay characters they like from a show they like and not necessarily the ones they physically resemble the most. Why does it bother you so much.

>>7484441
A/ She's fat
B/ tutus should be made all in one beice any way, with the skirt and bodice connected. Only time they aren't are practice tutus and very few romantic tutus.

>>7484448
>A/ She's fat
She's chub at best
>B/ tutus should be made all in one beice any way, with the skirt and bodice connected. Only time they aren't are practice tutus and very few romantic tutus.
Yep.

>>7484408
She's chubby, not a little, full blown chubby. Too big to cosplay a fucking ballerina.
Well she could have done the anteater.

You are now looking at her 5-o'clock armpit shadow.

fatties r gross

>>7484433
I don't care if you want to say fat people shouldn't cosplay characters you don't want them to cosplay, but own the reason. It's not about "authenticity," it's because you think they're gross.

You all sound like wusses.
>bawww fatties should be barred from doing things because it imposes on my delicate sensitivities
Snowflakes please, the world isn't going to standstill because you have a vendetta against fatties.
Cosplay is about having fun, there is no rule saying that they deserve to be treated with less than minimal respect because they have a body type you don't agree with.
Don't like a cosplay? Fine, shit talk on your own time though and hopefully it'll be anonymous so you don't make yourself look like an uppity tool.

>Hey Beavis, check it out ... it's The Gutcracker

>heheh heh heheh yeah, Chunky-xote

>uhuhuhuhuh

ITT: Waaaaaaaaah people I don't find sexually attractive are cosplaying characters I fap to.

I'm a fattie who is gonna cosplay a sorta skimpy outfit at an upcoming con. Even though the character is fat herself (fatter than I am, in fact), I know haters are gonna say nasty things behind my back and will look like damn fools when they find out who I am dressed as.

Someone I see around at cons wants to cosplay nudist beach Nonon and I'm honestly scared cause she's pretty big

>>7484621
nah if the character is fat there's nothing wrong as long as the costume is otherwise accurate.

OP girl is niether.

If you can make it work, why not?

I just don't think it's cool to try to limit what people can do based on something as arbitrary and out of their control as the way their body looks. That's also why I try to not be racist or sexist.

>>7484656
>out of control of staying healthy
Oh silly anon

>>7484656
>not cool to limit what other people do based on something as arbitrary and out of their control as the way their body looks

Race and sex, ok I will give you those - you can't really change those easily or at will.

However, a person's weight is definitely something they can learn to control and change and for some people it's not a fast process but it is certainly doable.

>>7484656
How is your weight something you can't control again?

>>7484664
Some people's bodies are healthiest at a weight that is above that of conventional attractiveness. A significant proportion of people, I would even argue. You can only control your own weight within a range. If someone loves a character so much that they want to dress as them, their weight shouldn't be a problem. I would say someone choosing a character they don't look like but love is worlds better than people who choose characters they look like but don't care for. Jnig is example A.

>>7484667
I totally get where you're coming from, I used to feel the same way. But if you have to literally count calories constantly and expend at least 2 hours of extra effort/pain every day to make yourself way 30 pounds less...this is only within your control if you have very few other things in life to deal with. I don't claim to have the answer here but I'm just saying that it's not so clear cut. Even if your weight is literally in your "control", to control it dramatically you have to lose control of a lot of other things in your life or limit your commitments to a frightening degree.

>>7484670
No one is going to complain if someone of average weight who is not "conventionally attractive" cosplays a skinny character. This girl is too fat.

>>7484670
My god you're right!

>>7484670
Holy shit, you know nothing. By learning how to count calories and eat what is optimal for maintaining an ideal weight/getting to an ideal weight and then maintaining that, anyone can have a good body. The problem is no one is taught nutrition properly in school so only those interested in it actually bother to read up on these things.

Your body is like a car, it's something that you can customize to look good or something you can neglect. Put in the right amount of fuel, it will go great, very little fuel it won't go far. Unlike a car however, if you put too much fuel in the tank, your body won't just overflow, it'll get bigger to match the new amount of fuel making you inefficient.

>>7484670
My best friend used to suffer from depression, but she was hot as hell and promiscuous, the "bombshell" type. Then she tried to commit suicide, failed, got into therapy and recovered. Now she's chubby but happier than she ever was before and in a long term relationship. It may not be her healthiest weight, but it's her happiest, and yet girls she used to hang out with constantly make fun of her now despite knowing her situation.
You can say "she shouldn't care" but she or anyone else genuinely does NOT deserve to be pointed and laughed at because she's not of model proportions. If a person's only crime is that they're overweight and fit the otherwise decent costume badly, I don't see why someone needs to be there pointing them out and going "ewwwwww, so fat and uglyyyyy". It just makes you (not YOU in particular, but people who think this is acceptable) an insecure faggot who tries to make themselves feel better by putting others down. If someone feels best at x weight, who are you to tell them they shouldn't? As long as it's within normal range I don't see why it'd be such a crime.

>>7484678
You do realize left is closer up?

>>7484670
lol you're actually retarded.

>>7484680
What is a "good" body? To be clear I'm arguing mostly about the photo that OP posted. I can't say because I don't have the person's medical history obv, but her weight is well within what could be a healthy weight for her body. And I 100% agree about the nutrition in schools bit. I probably should have been more specific earlier, because now we're having the problem of people using phrases like "good body" or "healthy weight" when these are really vague terms that probably mean different things to all of us.

Really I guess I'm saying that it's intellectually sloppy to make such sweeping judgements about people's control over their weight when there is still so much science doesn't know about metabolism, and so much you don't know about an individual's lifestyle or medical history. Now that's a more understandable mistake.

However, this whole "fat people shouldn't cosplay11" shit is absurd. A lot of it seems to be predicated on the idea that a person's weight is totally under their control, when that is a very murky question. This is the only reason I've bothered to argue the lack of defined connection between a person's weight and their control over it. Yes, people can literally control their weight. Can it consume their whole life in many cases because of their inborn biological predispositions? Yes. Would it be worth it to them to cosplay if being an acceptable weight consumes their ife? No, probably not. Should we ask people to not dress up as animu characters because of their biological predispositions? No.

>>7484693
I think that works against the 'big boned' theory more than anything.

Being fat shows lack of self control and laziness. Your weight is a choice and it shows that you respect yourself by being in shape.

>>7484702
The amount of people who can't lose weight due to medical conditions is very very small. You could probably tell just by looking at them. >muh genetics and >muh metabolism isn't an excuse.

>>7484705
It does. Still, the xray shot is somewhat invalid. For one thing, it is a more extreme case of weight which is NOT what we're focusing on here (we're talking mostly about the girl in OP's pic, who is not morbidly obese like the xray woman). For another thing, if someone tooks xrays of the abdomens of all the anons here, that alone doesn't say much about our individual health. I doubt anyone will have a knife lodged in their abdomen or something. We're not talking about extreme cases here, those are easy. We're talking about girls like the girl in OP's pic who are within a range where many people are healthy, and people are telling them not to cosplay for other reasons but are dressing it up as "health".

>>7484715
I'm not talking about folks with cundishuns exclusively. I'm talking about people whose bodies want to naturally be a bit chubbier than what is "hot" and above. I can't speak for men because I don't know their weight stuff as well, but for women, I mean women with a bmi that is greater than 23 or so. Girl in OP's pic should fall within this range.

>>7484702
I'm not saying that fat people shouldn't cosplay, I'm saying that the vast majority of people could have control over their weight if they didn't view things like counting calories or being mindful of what they ate as eating disordered.

Do you know how much hypothyroidism can cause someone to gain? about 5kg maximum if it's not treated. Yes there are some, very few but some legitimate medical conditions that can cause weight gain outside of someone's control but those account for maybe 1% of all overweight people. Of course weight can control people's entire lives, I spent 7 years of my life struggling through first bulimia and then when I thought I was recovered, annorexia (binge purge subtype), I know how that kind of stuff can control a person's life. However, you know what the biggest help in recover this past 2 years has been? Knowing how to manipulate my body healthily, which counting calories is a big part of.

When I say a good body I mean someone with a waist under 29" that doesn't obviously have excess adipose tissue.

>>7484710
I don't think I've ever seen you post anything that was more than a few words before.

I head a lot of people argue that obese/fat people clearly have no self control. And if they could just exercise some self control they would cease to be couch potatoes reaking of BO.

Now if we ignore the mass generalizations about hygiene and level of function and just examine the concept of self control for a moment.

Now it's highly likely that statistically a link can be drawn between self control and obesity. Not necessarily that all obese people lack self control (there are a multitude of medical conditions and factors that genuinely contribute to this problem, I have one myself, it's rare, it's genetic and it sucks but thems the breaks) or that all people who lack self control of their eating habits are obese.

Technically we can define anorexia as not having enough self control to maintain a healthy lifestyle.

But I find it incredibly sad to see people who profess to be unweight or a healthy weight or attractive etc saying they are superior people because they have 'more self control'. When there could be a multitude of things contributing the lack of self control in the obese.

This would be like someone with a naturally fast metabolism calling someone with a naturally slower metabolism a lesser human being.

Or someone with a high red blood cell count calling someone with a lesser red blood cell count a lesser human being.

I am obese (at present, I've lost a lot so far and the struggle continues) and I recognize that everything in my wardrobe looks better on someone half my size. The thing about getting fat is most of the time you don't realise it's happening until it's too damn late. When nothing quite fits and you feel humiliated walking to a counter to buy the next size up. When in every photo something stands out. When you walk you feel heavy and like everything is wobbling like jelly over the surface.

cont.

>>7484721
Hardly anyone is 'dressing it up as health' most people said it's gross as well as unhealthy, which, it is. Fat people are pretty gross, chubby whatever. I also think that anyone dressed 'sexy' is pretty gross looking to but that's my opinion.

>>7484734

But the worst thing is how you almost don't feel any of that.

Cause you can feel almost where the muscles are underneath everything. A bit like this picture >>7484678. And then you look in the mirror, or you see a picture, or you stand next to our friends and it's all suddenly painfully real.

Going to the gym is embarrassing so you buy all sorts of self help and home exercise. You don't make the time, you tell yourself tomorrow. You get to the end of the day and you hype yourself up for tomorrow. Wake up, tomorrow is today, and all that energy is gone.

Now, fat lamenting aside.

If you are a person who, bless you, is not obese and are within healthy parameters and you don't like how fat looks. That's totally and completely fine.

But it's not fine to keep telling obese people what failures they are. How they have no self control and if they could just wrap their stupid fat brains around that simple concept that they could actually fix all their problems.

This is not helpful. This just makes you a shit person.

If you genuinely want to combat obesity then offer tips, diet ideas, recipes even. What do you eat on a day to day basis, how much exercises do you do on a day to day basis, how much water do you drink on a day to day basis etc. All these things make great material for comparison and goals.

Maybe I'm being too optimistic about people but if really all you can say is negative it reflects more on you than your subject.

>>7484678
Wow that's terrifying . Is someone gonna argue fattie on the right is healthy?

>>7484744
We're not. We're arguing that "fattie" in the OP may be.

>>7484727
29" is fucking huge. I bet you're that big and regurgitating facts you learnt on fit to make yourself seen skinny while you pig out on shit food to meet your daily calorie allowance to maintain your just under fatty-chan size.

>>7484744
You bet your sweet ass someone is going to.

>>7484632
>nudist beach nonon
Is that a tumblr thing?

>>7484740
Being harsh and blunt is sometimes needed with certain people, actually. Especially the ones wrapped in their Tumblr laden bbw fantasies where they only find themselves to be healthy and attractive due to a few fetishists enabling their disgusting lifestyle. People like that develop an air of arrogance about themselves thanks to that sort of coddling bullshit and "being optimistic" can only realistically go so far. There are people who need to be told that they'll be dead at the age of 40 something unless they shape the fuck up.

>>7484746
Are you drunk? you type like an 8 year old. I've had a bottle of wine (once a fortnight cheat day because since we're talking about calories and shit, this could be brought up) so far today and i type better than you.
My waist is 25 inches, I'm 5'9" and I wasn't calling any one a fatty-chan. I know this is slim and I know that girls at 5'11/5' can carry waists of 28 inches nicely. Yes I go to /fit/ but not so that I can regurgitate info and sound smart. I go there to save picture from /fit/ girl threads to my inspiration folder and to talk to other people who care about working out.

>>7484750
Are you.....really really dumb?

>>7484754
But a lot of people here assume that all fat people go on tumblr to cry about it and are as you describe. They really don't, and aren't. A lot of them know they are fat too, but for one reason or another feel they are happier the way they are. It's kind of dumb to go "neener neener, you're so fat, you fattie! Oink oink! Lose weight!" at someone without knowing that they are tumblr fatties crying fatshaming.

>>7484754
This may be true, but the harsh truth should come from a person's family, friends, GP, nutritionist, trainer, cardiologist or otherwise certified professional in a related field.

It's not really for random, disassociated people to hand out judgement. The internet has facilitated this method of behaviour and it doesn't really have any positive effects. That's not to say people can't have opinions, people should have opinions and I agree entirely that there is a fine line between loving yourself and loving a lie.

But there are better ways, more constructive and positive ways to express these opinions. Rather than targeting people and trying to say 'this person is wrong because of my personal idea of beauty' (which is something women have been contending with amongst each other since the dawn of time) I still think it's better to lay out examples of a good lifestyle. Break it down.

So that people, like myself, and worse, and better, and everywhere on the scale, can look at those examples and learn.

Fat people make enough excuses for themselves, they punish themselves enough too. And targeted fat-shaming from anonymous people doesn't help anyone.

>>7484329

>Just look at how cunty they become when a prettier girl with a better body comes along and cosplays something.

So much this.

>>7484764
But that doesn't make you any less deluded than the tumblr sjw's who cry fat-shaming at any chance they get.
Sure, you can be happy about the way you are, but that doesn't change the fact that you have higher risks of getting cardiac issues, for example, and that you could die young if you don't try to lose weight.

You could be happy all you want but you also need to be aware.

>>7484764
I think it's okay to be fat, but sometimes you need to be harsh to people who delude themselves into thinking that they are healthy or are blaming their weight on bullshit things like genetics.

If you are fat and own up to being fat I dont see a problem.

>>7484693
You do realize that the fat person wouldn't fit in the frame without cropping a bunch of them out if they were at the same zoom level?

It is obvious in this thread that a lot of anons are pro the concept that cosplay should be inclusive and for fun. That is great, keep going anons.

And there are still a percentage of anons saying that fat people can and should, if they so choose, cosplay whatever they want.

But completely independent from these two attitudes most people will agree that the thinner you are, the better you will look in costume or otherwise. It's just a simple fact.

We can all agree that being thinner is healthier, being active is healthier and will benefit longevity of life and quality of life for the individual.

This is not the same as saying that people shouldn't love themselves or their bodies or that people aren't entitled to their own idea of what is beautiful.

If you think being obese is beautiful you are entitled to that opinion and to act on it. But it would be to your benefit and those around you to promote not being obese.

There is no pro-obese argument that sticks.

Everything about loving yourself, pro-body image etc is emotional smoke screening for a physical problem.

>>7484764
They don't have to be from Tumblr to be an arrogant, fat slob. It's easy to tell how a fat person feels about themselves when they're openly glaring at or shaming others for the bodies that they feel jealous of or wearing clothes that blatantly do not fit them, yet they insist on doing so anyway. And, they expect to be treated as if they're special needs and have nobody acknowledge the fact that they're a fat person. Fuck that. Nobody has to lie to you because you're in denial and fancy yourself to be Morrigan just because you have fat girl tits.

And, frankly? It's fucking disgusting that some people can't shop at certain stores anymore because a 26 inch waist is considered to be a size 'small'. Whether you want to admit it or not, other people being fat begins to infringe on the lives of others with shit like the airline issue and clothing store inventory because now we need to pretend that a 26 to 30 inch waist is "normal", "average", and "healthy."

>>7484734
>>7484740
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>>7484782
Anon, are you samefagging?

>>7484790
I'm not replying to myself no.

The first two posts were one post, but too long. The 3rd was in response to an anon who responded to me and the 4th post was an independent thought summary.

I honestly could care less if fatties wanna die young, but there have been issues in most major American cities were I can't get a damn bus or metro seat because one Cow will take up 1 1/2 seats my himself. Or even both. They even discussed taking tax money to make ambulances wider because fatties can't fit in the back of them. That's some bullshit. And don't even look up obese coffins, unless you want to hurl.
Can't fit in MRIs, etc
Harder to find clothes in my size too. I'm only a 25" waist. Come on. So yes, it does expect everyone when there's a huge percent of obese people.

>>7484777
Those are just bullshit reasonings assholes use to comfort themselves and not seem like an asshole. How am I deluded if I know my weight? Maybe I used to be anorexic and at the brink of death and am happier this way, you can't know. Maybe I'm underweight which is just as unhealthy, if not more, but people don't pick on me because I look pretty enough to them.
That's my point. YOU DON'T KNOW ME. You CAN'T know me. We're both anonymous and on an internet board, and most mean comments about weight are made that way. You really think people do it because they're concerned about a fatty having cardiac arrest? No, they do it because they simply dislike how someone looks. It's not your job to tell a fatty they need to lose weight, no matter how true it may be. They have friends, family and doctors for that. You know very well you're not saying it for anyone's good, you're saying it because you haven't been taught manners as a child.

>>7484793
Agreed, the fact that public funds are having to be used to form fleets of services designed to cater for the obese is extremely worrying.

Especially since obese people tend to need more medical care due to issues brought on by the weight.

>>7484788
I'm a feminist and I definitely don't think photo 2 is curvy. We're not all tumblr morons, come on now.

>>7484788
>26in is size small
No it isn't. I have a 23in waist and I wear a medium. You're just trying to be edgy or are Amurrican, but that has more to do with your country's fear of offending someone rather than fat people.

>>7484790
They obv are, and not hiding it. Some conversations require more than a hit and run, why is it a bad thing to respond to people who have responded to you? The conversation has stayed on topic and seems to contain critical thought and novel comments.

>>7484788
This worries me, I thought a 28 inch waist was average.

>>7484801
You don't have to be a feminist to be pro-fatty.

>>7484801
I'm a feminiest also and I hate how tumblr has made feminism this evil thing. I don't even call myself a feminist if I'm putting my name to it because I don't want to be lumped in with them

>>7484803
26 inch waist for women is pretty average unless you're Asian or just very petite

>>7484803
Do you live in Asia? Not meaning to be racist but I'm a 64cm waist and I wear a small/extra small depending on where I am.

>>7484809
26" is really normal for anyone who is not petite, yeah. I think it may be more of a height thing. A 5'10" woman would look like they have a really tiny waist at 26"

>>7484806
Haha, that's true, but there's a misconception all feminist are supporting the pro fat movement and I think it's really a small percent. Most women just want healthy/ fit body image, not super fat or anorexic.

>>7484810
Well that's optimistic.

>>7484680
>anyone can have a good body
A good body?
I've been thin, I've been overweight. I've never ever ever had a good body. I have a wide, boxy, rectangular body, and when I gain weight, I lose curves instead of gaining them.
Some of us are just really really unnattractive.
I'm just lucky I was born with a face weeaboos and people with yellow fever seem to love.

>>7484803
Shes likely American but her argument still stands. Vanity sizing exists here because the people clothing companies are afraid of offending are fucking fat people in denial

>>7484813

It's almost like proportions are relative.

>>7484813
That is very true. I'm 5'4 with 26" waist and I'm pretty average. I don't have a gut or anything.

>>7484803
How am I trying to be edgy when I'm UPSET about the fact that a 26 inch waist is being considered small and I have a 22 inch waist and therefore cannot fit into most stores?

>>7484816
Wasn't there a brand/company that actively said they weren't going to stock above a size 14/16 or something because they were anti-obesity and there was a huge fuss about it in the media?

>>7484816
Like other anon said, height matters with your waist size . Most Asians are 5'1"

>>7484803
I'm just under a 26in waist and wear a small. I feel sorry for those under 24inches here (NZ not US) because when I was that small in the waist, everything was waaay to big on me. Pic for reference because 26cm is still quite small depending on how tall you are. People seem to forget about height here.

>>7484824

would smash/10

>>7484821
All I can remember is Ambercrombie & Fitch not stocking above certain size to cater to the "exclusive club for pretty people" brand image. Ironic because the CEO is ugly as sin, but they have a right to do that.

>>7484734
Your view of anorexia is wrong, and the "more self control" that people think is true, now whether or not this control is good thing is a different matter. Anorexia is all about control, that's how it happens, those with anorexia control how much they eat, work out and limit themselves to such an extent that is extremely unhealthy. So yes, anorexics have way more self control, its just over the top.

>>7484818
I didn't want to say that directly, because I used BMI in this earlier argument here >>7484726 Two people with the same BMI can look totally different. We really don't have much to work with here, tho I agree that waist measurement is more arbitrary than necessary.

>>7484796
>Maybe I used to be anorexic and at the brink of death and am happier this way, you can't know.
You don't know how ED's work, do you?

>You really think people do it because they're concerned about a fatty having cardiac arrest?
Some of us do, actually. Me being a former "fatty".

> It's not your job to tell a fatty they need to lose weight, no matter how true it may be.
As well as it isn't my job to fucking tell you "go on!! You're soooo pretty!! Fuck the haterssss!!!" when I know your lifestyle is unhealthy, and even when you suffer from a medical condition you can STILL control your weight. Is it harder to do so? Absolutely. -it's still not an excuse-

>They have friends, family and doctors for that.
Lol yeah and you know what they say?
"My family's just bullying mee!!!"
"My doctor tested me and I'm healthy!!"
"Stop fat-shaming me!!!!"

>You know very well you're not saying it for anyone's good, you're saying it because you haven't been taught manners as a child.
No, now you listen to me.
I am telling you this because I was obese as a child. Because I was berated by my mother at every single chance she could get to let me know I was obese; because my worth was weighed on how I looked. And you know why else? Because I've gone to nutritionists and I have a doctor in the family. This isn't rocket science. You -need- to fucking know what you're into the moment you decide to look at yourself in the mirror and come up with some stupid excuse like "b-but I'm happy this way!".
No, you need to fucking be aware, and yes, to some people it might be related to beauty standards. To the rest of us it's a health concern.

Might not be our job, but we will still force you to be aware of the consequences.

Deal with it.

>>7484820
You aren't upset, you're humblebragging. If you do have those proportions, you're the odd one out. 26in is average to small. I'm on the verge of underweight and have a 26in waist.

>>7484820
Because reality check, very few people have waists that small. It's supply and demand. Even the models some teens wanna be like are in the top 10% of people who have those proportions. And they still starve themselves. 26" is average on most women.

>>7484821
A&F, yeah. The CEO said that fat and ugly people do not belong in their clothes and wanted to cater to the popular and rich clientele. Fatties got angry and some fat girl from Tumblr bought one of their male shirts, stretched it out to all fuck, and made some fake ad with a male model to try and make a statement to the world. Everyone kissed her ass while there were few people going, "Why are you mad? Their clothes suck, anyway."

It's like she forgot that there are plus sized brands for her to choose from.

>>7484821
That might of been Abercrombie and Fitch, but that guy is a jerk anyway, so

>>7484826
Someone described him as looking like "Garey Busey after being stung repeatedly by a swarm of bees" and I couldn't stop laughing.

>>7484835
No! Everyone needs to cater to everyone and fuck da haterz!

>>7484824
Nice fit body, anon. I'm hoping to get to your level soon

>>7484821
abercrombie, i think

>>7484833
Exactly, when I modeled, I was a 23 inch waist and got turned down by some designers because I was to small for their clothes/image.

>>7484828
Which is why I worded it thus 'Technically we can define anorexia as not having enough self control to maintain a healthy lifestyle.'

I am not trying to condemn or promote anorexia. But you yourself have said 'it's just over the top'. Which is agreeing with my statement as a lack of control to maintain a healthy lifestyle.

I recognize anorexia is about control on intake and output. But that wasn't what I was referring to.

>>7484834
That's amazing holy shit. Hahaha

>>7484831
>You don't know how ED's work, do you?
Neither do you apparently.
>As well as it isn't my job to fucking tell you "go on!! You're soooo pretty!! Fuck the haterssss!!!"
Literally all that is asked of you is to be polite. Nobody is asking you to compliment them at all. Just don't talk shit, you're going to extremes here to prove your point.
>Lol yeah and you know what they say?
>"My family's just bullying mee!!!"
>"My doctor tested me and I'm healthy!!"
>"Stop fat-shaming me!!!!
You don't know that and are projecting.
>To the rest of us it's a health concern.
It's not a concern, it's an eyesore. Stop lying to yourself.
>come up with some stupid excuse like "b-but I'm happy this way!"
How do you know what I look like and how happy I am?
>B-but I was obese!!!!
Nobody cares. Bullies usually begin by being bullied themselves. Get over it and spare us the sob story.

Learn some manners and don't be an asshole. That's all people ask. It's your problem that you can't put it politely.

>>7484840
It doesn't take that long to get here if you're doing a decent routine and getting your diet right. I went from a slender but skinnyfat and weak as fuck body (I literally could not OHP 7.5kg when I started and 2.5 months later I'm doing 30kg) to this in 2.5 months.

>>7484824
31 in waist here trying to lose weight, this picture motivates me! 5 more inches, I can do it!!!

I can see fat people cosplaying fit characters because they like them and don't care about accuracy, they believe they are in the same shape/are the same size of the character, or, they are currently losing weight but are very impatient and want to cosplay as said character ASAP.

(I've been guilty of the third reason I gave, I've almost given in a few times but I'm trying my best to wait. I want to break the 30s and get into the late 20s before cosplaying fit characters/cosplaying at all.)

>>7484852
I believe in you anon, you can make it. No matter how weak you may feel at points, just remember your goal and that some stranger who posted herself wearing almost nothing on an anime image board has full faith that you will get there.

>>7484849
I'm going to do a running routine 2x week for now. I was also going to but 5lb weights to do lifting at home since I can't afford a gym membership. I know it's slow in the beginning but I want muscles

>>7484852
I'm at 36" and got stuck. Does anyone have any good suggestions for burning off the fat? I've mostly fixed my diet and it's whittling away at my weight but I'd like to do more physically. At the moment I just cycle so I'm wondering if I should go for weights or more cardio things like zumba or even swimming?

>>7484847
I am satisfied by your decisive smackdown of this uncle ruckus-like fatty-chan

>>7484824
Damn I'm just under 27inches and I don't think a lost inch will get me to where you are, but I think I'm shorter than you by a long shot. Still it's good motivation for me to loose a couple more inches!

>>7484857
It will be, I didn't start lifting until I had saved up for my bench, plates and an oly bar but being able to work out at home is super rewarding (and you don't have to bother wearing more than a bra and pair of panties + maybe shorts). I also have a habit of working on armour while working out. Do my squats, coat of mod podge on my armour, after calf raises another coat, etc.

I am going to start off my saying that I am a fat (but loosing weight) girl, who cosplays, and even I fully agree with this. I stay the hell away from model/buff/sports/ iconic waif-y type characters. You just aren't representing the character well.

There are definitely ways around things if you love a show. take AoT for instance, I love the fuck out of that show. I know I could never truly represent a main character, so I made a garrison uniform (since it is shown they sat around, ate, got drunk, and subsequently fatter then average) and turned it into a joke that i got eaten right away because I couldn't outrun the titans.

Not to mention if you look hard enough there are tons of larger characters in anime/manga and not all of them are asshole unlikeable characters. People honestly love to see them cosplayed well too. you are doing yourself a huge favor by cosplaying those characters. You will get way more positive attention, and you look way better. People honestly get excited when they see someone dressed as Rumi (Perfect blue), as opposed to someone stuffing themselves in a terrible too tight costume.

>>7484863
I am quite tall, 175cm. I feel that going by look and your lift stats is a better goal than by measurements of other girls because with most of them, you don't know their height. You'll get there though, I believe in you.

>>7484872
Thanks. You're my fav anon right now. We should be encouraging eachother to get fit and live a healthy life style. That ties into our cosplay hobbies as well.

>>7484824
Also 26" waist, notice that two people with the same measurement look noticeably different. That 23" waist anon probably hasn't seen a lot of other women's bodies before, ignore her ignorance.

>>7484881

>>7484881
>>7484824
Out of interest anons, what is your age?

>>7484878
Deffo what I'm doing at the gym. It feels a lot better than looking at my weight or something because that's going to fluctuate more than "how much can I even lift bro."

>>7484860
Chop off a limb.

>>7484879
I wish we sill had /fit/ fridays here it would make giving encouragement/advice so much easier.
>>7484881
I'm guessing you're 5'6? 23inch waist anon probably has never seen any one above 5'3 with a waist that small,
>>7484884
I'm 21.
>>7484886
Good, I like you.

It makes me really happy to see how generally positive this thread is.

>>7484805

So did I...I didn't think I was fat before, just on the stockier side, but now I don't even know.

>>7484675
I'm pretty sure we're on the same wavelength - we both agree that it isn't necessarily easy to control/maintain weight. I would say that there is also an unspoken notion that losing weight automatically means the person needs to aim to be model-thin (not possible for some folks because everyone's body type is different and weight is carried differently). What I meant, in the most basic of senses, is that learning to control one's weight means they are on the way to getting to a healthier weight for their body and staying there when they reach it.

People make sacrifices all the time but don't call it a sacrifice, but where there is a will, there is a way. IMO it's about working smarter, not harder. If that means taking nutrition classes, so be it. If it requires getting a medical professional involved, then that's what it means. If it means going to a gym that bans "skinnies" because its goal is to provide a place where overweight and obese members can work out in a "judgment free zone", then go for it. People often make excuses for not taking care of themselves but forget they have an obligation to take care of themselves too. To make a drastic change, you need to be 100% honest with yourself and be willing to reprioritize and retrain yourself. Again, not easy, they require people to take action and responsibility, but definitely doable.

As someone who struggled with weight in high school, when I got to college, I learned to make change like cutting soda consumption to maybe 2 a week and grabbing tea first, walking instead of driving, taking stairs, and greatly limiting processed food consumption and was able to lose and maintain my weight ever since. Since finishing grad school and landing a permanent job with more desk-work than anticipated, I brought a pedal machine to my desk. I'm not model thin and don't want to be. I'm squarely in the middle of the suggested weight range. Not always easy, but doable.

>>7484856
!! Thank you!! Your faith gives me more motivation!

>>7484860
I've been in a plateau as well Anon!! It's so bad. But this is what I've been doing to get out of it that I think is helping.
Diet wise;
-Try to eat mostly lean meats and carbs
-Try to avoid starchy veggies and breads!!
-Especially breads
-Drink enough water
-Tea can really help at times where you need to eat/drink something, but calorie wise you really can't afford eating another snack

Exercise wise, look up HIIT sets! You may not be losing anymore because your body is used to your cycling. Try to switch your exercises up a lot. I usually worked out on the elliptical, and while it worked for a while, now it doesn't do the magic that it did. I do Insanity one day a week, and interval training sets I have on my phone app 4-5x a week. You can easily find a workout of Insanity or something similar on the internet! And you should go for weights!! While you should be focusing more on cardio than weights, lifting weights 2-3x a week can made a huge difference! I started lifting 2-3 days a week several months ago, and I noticed that there's less fat everywhere on me, especially on my arms and legs! (My butt also looks better than it ever did. MODERATE SUCCESS.)

I think swimming or doing zumba can help, as long as you don't do them every single day and don't do any other cardio exercise!

>>7484892
What's you're height anon? I'm used to 5' 7 to 5' 9 folks where 28" looks just peachy.

>>7484897
Thank you anon, I had surmised that my body might have acclimatised too. I think I'll look into the local gym as I'm not sure I have space at home for any weights and I'd rather have someone on hand who knows what they're doing.

I mostly eat chicken, fish, veg and fruit. Really not a carbs person. But I do drink a lot of carbonated drinks like fizzy flavored waters so less of those too I think.

See you in the 20 inches anon!

>>7484889
I doubt you have either, have you read a gal mag.
no
Exactly.

>>7484322
Or because they don't give a shit what you think and they're enjoying themselves.

>>7484824
>25cm
>>7484881
26"

There is a difference girls...

>>7484876
Heh. I'm going to be Rumi at my next con.

How likely is is that most people will not recognize me and will just shame me for being a fatty in that red thing she wears?

>>7484910
Not quite sure what you're trying to say but I guess you're saying I'm not familiar with model proportions? I know exactly what keeping model proportions is like for someone without an extreme genetic predisposition.
I'm the fit girl who posted her image, I used to model in my teens, I know very well what a 23inch waist looks like (and the upkeep required, 800cal a day? No, thank you!!) on a 175cm girl (pic related, my arms were literal noodles) it's at the point where your period can stop.
>>7484927
I didn't mean to say cm! We use centimetres here and sometimes I get confused between using inched on 4chan and cm in real life.

>>7484805
>>7484892

28" isn't necessarily "fat" and sizing is very country-specific. It definitely depends on nation, body type, and height as well.

I'm Asian, 5'8", boyish bodytype, and have a 28" waist. I wear a US XS/S but an Asian L. Different countries use different scales for their clothing because they are relative to the size of the people in said country. Also as I mentioned, height plays a big factor too. 28" waist on people my height is slim to normal. a 28" waist on say, my friend who's 5'0" is going to look pretty big. Being a boyish bodytype means I don't have a super defined waist so while I am by no means "fat", I also do not have a 24" waist because that's just not how I'm built. Lots of factors to consider before feeling that a number is truly defining you as "fat".

>>7484890
Same. It's a nice Tuesday night here. I just seeped some oolong tea and had a spoonful or organic peanut butter. With the nice weather finally returning. I'm gonna buy some cheap sweatpants and start running in the park.

>>7484932
Are you kidding? Any horror fan / Satoshi Kon fan will flip. Especially if you have another character with you.

>>7484935
You look a lot better now. Changing to fitness over fashion was a good choice. What do you do now?

I had to work really hard to get my waist down to 24", but I have always gotten comments on how tiny my waist was, even when I was at my fattest (got up to 28"). I've been eating poorly lately, it might be up to 25" again, dat water retention. But I'm only 5'3", so with my short torso, I'd imagine I'd look fatter than I am with my waistline.

I like little waistlines, but I think you're probably fine up to 28", depending on your height. The most important things are that you eat smart, do your cardio/lifts, and be patient.

>>7484945
You mean as in a job? About to start a new job as a barrister, have work as a waitress and a since modeling though. Once I've saved up the money I plan on doing what I need to do to become a nutritionist because while it's not exactly STEM, teaching people how to have a healthy relationship with food, is something I consider important.

>>7484881
>>7484824
> Also 26in waist
But I'm much more pudgier than you guys. ;; Maybe it's because I'm shorter. That and I really need to exercise more.

>>7484932
I had that same fear, but everyone who saw me got super excited. I also did do a few small things to make the outfit a little more flattering on me, such as making the skirt a tad longer so I was more in my comfort zone. But I don't think you have to worry too much. Honestly I even brought a print out of her character with me just in case. But if anyone saw me and thought that, they didn't say shit.

Honestly now that I"m loosing weight I'm a little sad she's going to be retired probably in the next year or so since I won't be big enough to pull it off anymore. But I guess that means I can work towards doing a Mima cosplay.

>>7484793
Wait, what? Ignoring everything else ITT.
I have a 47 inch ass and I fit in one bus seat fine, I used to be even fatter and still fit. I eat shitty occasionally, and also was on a medication for years that has weight gain and thyroid issues as a side effect.

What the fuck are people eating that they can't fit in one bus seat? Bus seats are huge. My friend who is 6'5" and 400lbs can fit into one bus seat.

>>7484977
>400lbs
>one bus seat

Sure, if you round down.

>>7484816
I thought it was because women are getting taller.
So a 3 inch raise in average waist size with a 2 inch increase in average height would make sense.

I'm 5'8" and people never guess my weight or size correctly because they always forget about height.

>>7484973
You're awesome. I would love to see pics of your Rumi. Did you have the umbrella?

>>7484988
Same, anon. I have yet to have anyone get within 15 pounds of my actual weight. They always guess lower than my weight/size though, so I'm not complaining.

>>7485021
I'm the person who is going to cosplay her and I need to know: is the umbrella light blue or white?

>>7485035
Shouldn't you just look up the image on google anyway?

>>7485029
Yup, same. I also have an hourglass figure that stays proportional even when I gain weight so it "hides" it well. Everyone guesses me at least 30-40lbs less than what I am, and I'm surprised every time. And no, it's not a vanity "oh, tell me you think I weigh less~", I've prefaced it with "It won't hurt my feelings, be very honest" and asked people close to me who know I want the truth - and still gotten way underestimated. Even if people were conservative in their guesses, they're still shocked when I tell them what I actually weigh.

>>7485049
Maybe it's the figure? I've got an hourglass shape too, with broad shoulders. It actually makes me chuckle a bit. If I ever mention my weight, people are surprised, and when I put down my actual weight for a physics assignment, everyone assumed I was just using a fake, "placeholder" weight. I actually have really low self esteem about my body, so I'm happy I apparently don't look as bad to others as I see myself.

>>7485072
>>7485049
Both of you are me.

ITT: vapid bitches taking selfies in order to accuse others of being vapid bitches

This board never fails to contradict itself. You niggers talk about who does and doesn't belong in cosplay or at cons, how you know you're fat and don't care, yet the moment someone comes along and criticizes you you're all up in arms and ready to act like the shallow, shitty whores that you accuse everyone else of being. All I see are a bunch of angry fat girls or thin ones with no breasts aching for attention and validation. People like Nigri aren't the problem with this hobby. It's you fuckers and your incessant need to compete with anything else with a vagina.

Just shut the hell up.

inb4 b-but I'm not c-catty!1!1

>>7485092
Your b8 was okay, it tastes like old pasta to me. Try something fresh next time and don't skimp on the salt.

>>7485092
God forbid there are a range of opinions on this board. But you're right, we're actually like 3 people contradicting ourselves constantly.

>>7485103
Why is any post that contradicts yours bait? How fucking new are you?

>>7484824
>tfw girls have broader shoulders than me

brb killing myself

>>7485098
It's never been a range of opinions. It's been the same kind of back and forth every single time /cgl/ has one of these threads. Literally every single argument, cop out, and legitimate rebuttal is reiterated in these body threads and it never ends with anything meaningful. It all ends in shitposting.

Fatty-chan that's trying to eat less and exercise more here. I don't even understand why so many bigger girls dress so badly. I'm a size XL and I find stuff that fits me and shows off my figure in a modest, flattering way all the time, but I look around and see all of these people (some of which are smaller than me) that look like trainwrecks. They're giving the ones of us that actually care about how we look in outfits a bad name.

I think a reason a lot of fatties are so delusional is because friends+family coddle them in fear of hurting their feelings. I can't even mention my weight around a friend without being hit with
>But anon, you're not fat!! You're adorable!!
and, I'm glad you care about my feelings and all, but I know I'm fucking fat, and I know it's a problem. You're not doing anything to help me in the long run by trying to make me feel better about my weight. (Not to mention, I don't think weight and cuteness are mutually exclusive.)

>>7485254

>I don't think weight and cuteness are mutually exclusive.

Ohohoh, tell that to the nigs who want to be called marshmallow girls like over in Japan.

>>7484581
Fat people ARE gross though
That is a fact

>>7485262
Someone is going to reply to you with a fat celebrity or a "kawaii" fatty now to try and prove a point.

>>7485092
Congratulations, anon, you just pointed out that 99% of women are catty.

It's human nature.

>>7485254
>I think a reason a lot of fatties are so delusional is because friends+family coddle them in fear of hurting their feelings.

Bingo.

My family originally coddled me to make me feel better about my weight but I woke up and realized it was bullshit and I needed to do something. They have since started to move into supporting me then coddling me now. Prob because I am down 30lb already and they are noticing I am determined to change my life. For me though its not about getting down to a certain size to cosplay but remaking my life for health reasons. My family has a history of diabetes and other health problems that are the result of terrible eating habit and a sedentary lifestyle. I just dont want that future for myself after watching all the things my loved ones are going through with being in and out of the hospital. University and a hikikomori life for the last 4 years really put me in a bad place but I'm not going to allow myself to suffer the same fate.

I have one friend though who needs to get her life back on track. She previously loss some weight before but after a baby and becoming a stay at home mom she has really let herself go. She talks about how unhappy she is but her other friends are not helping her and keep telling her on twitter how beautiful she is. Even feeding her lies about how it must be medical weight gain even though she is constantly tweeting shes at fast food restaurants and been to the doctors already. Now shes drinking the tumblr thinprivilege kool-aid and thinking it cant be her fault shes gaining so much weight its society! She was complaining the other day that Mod Cloth didnt carry 'real women' sizes on a dress that went up to a 3xl. You know your have gotten bad when that happens. I am going to try and have a heart to heart with her about it because I am getting worried and I understand where shes at she just needs to break free of it.

>>7484690
This is a case of one person, not for the entire population. It's just one story. There's many different reasons for being overweight or obese, depression isn't usually the cause but instead a side effect. It's much more common to just be neglecting your health.

>>7485296
>She previously loss some weight before but after a baby and becoming a stay at home mom she has really let herself go

WHY DO YOU EVEN CARE
shut up and live your own life, work on improving it in whatever ways you want, and be happy.

also not seeing the problem with your family supporting you and loving you just as you are until you decided for yourself you'd like a change, and they then supported you in that. sounds like something a lot of overweight girls could use, a family that supports their personal choices when it comes to their bodies but doesn't pressure them one way or another.

>>7484322
This is a bit off topic, but what about cosplaying a bigger character as a smaller size? Many anime characters are bigger than me but I'd still like to cosplay them. I guess padding my clothing is easier than for an overweight person to appear slimmer.

>>7485107
Her shoulders aren't very big, it's more that she has decent sized delts which you too can make bigger in the gym.

>>7484322
Because everyone is beautiful these days, don't you watch the media?

So much fucking molly coddling and sugar coating.

>>7485307
Because people are lying to her. She doesnt fit a 3xl and thinks the problem is the fashion industry not that she is out of control. She has been through this already and beat it but now has just given up and on the road to some serious problems. Im not going to attack her but instead of holding back next time she brings it up I am going to be honest with her. And if after the chat she does nothing thats her business obviously. But I'm not going to enable it. If that makes me an ass well then I guess I'm an ass.

It's not that I didnt like them for loving me even though I weighed more but more that they were feeding me the same garbage that fat chicks on tumblr tell each other. "Oh the media doesnt have 'real' women" "The average size is a 16!" Yadda yadda. Its not helpful. Don't get me wrong it wouldnt be better if they called me a fat ass and scowled at me but sugarcoating stuff can be harmful as it can and did lead to delusions.

>>7485344
>instead of holding back next time she brings it up I am going to be honest with her.
...if you haven't been honest with her before now, why would you place yourself above her other friends who are coddling her or whatever?

>>7484678
Not really on topic I guess, but I don't really understand what's going on with the person on the left's left side. Why is it so lumpy?

>>7484812
Whoa, you're me. Although I guess that's not such a good thing since we share the same unfortunately shaped bodies...

>>7484374
>>7484408
>she's not even that fat!
fatties in denial detected

>>7484608
hahahahahahaha

>>7484793
I didn't listen and I looked up obese coffins.

nope.

>>7484950
>I've been eating poorly lately, it might be up to 25" again
Ugh, same. I also started from 28", and am down to 25-26, depending on how much I've drunk and eaten.
Should I be going off of the 'full' measurement? is it normal to pack on an entire inch into your waistline from food and water...?

Should also add that I'm 5'1". Pretty short, so at 28", I was pretty fat. On taller, better built girls, that's fine and can look great, but I was shaped like a marshmallow with just the tiiiiiniest bit of a squeeze in the middle. I stayed that way for a long time because family and friends would always tell me I was thin and the anorexic jokes would fly around if I just decided to eat a little less than usual. But the thing was, I was most definitely NOT thin- for my height and body at least- I was just smaller than everyone telling me I was skinny.

I started counting calories and now I'm at my plateau, been stuck for a couple of months now. My goal is 24-23", and I keep this to myself now because just telling my boyfriend shocked him and made his anorexia alarm go off. I don't tell my close family about my goal, but some of them are already screaming anorexic because I've lost all of this weight already for "no reason!" The number might still be a bit alarming, but again, I'm pretty short, I have a noticeable amount of pudge on my tummy, and I'm disgustingly boxy to boot. I've got a wide upper torso, shoulders, rib cage and all. Pair that with hips smaller than my torso and a STILL little defined waistline, and I look like a manlet. I'm really glad to be where I am now, but losing two more inches would be the greatest.
I'm sad to say, though, that for like this past week I either haven't been counting calories or have been consistently going over my budget by 100-500 calories. But I'll get back on track. Thanks for the motivation, ladies!

>>7484621
Now you really made me wonder who you're gonna cosplay.

>>7484635
Also, what this anon said

>>7485114
But the post (or your post if you're seagull op) is saying that the board contradicts itself by the posters all saying different things, or rather hypocritical things. Which is just stupid. I get that the community itself is vapid and argumentative, but to say that the board itself is contradictory is to imply that there's some level of either established rules for how one has to behave on here that's being broken and not punished (e.g. being fat and not caring but then talking about how fatties aren't welcome), or that the board itself is sentient and hypocritical.
You can't say an entire group of people are contradicting themselves when different people in the group have different opinions. If your argument is that the board is a shithole of cunts, guilty. But the initial argument is retarded because you have no proof that all or most of the individuals are contradicting themselves daily. Because again, this board is populated by many people who all say different things, whether they're closely related opinions or not. You can't claim hypocrisy against people who are - for all you know - sticking to their own individual guns.

>no range of opinion
You literally have people saying "I don't mind fatties" and "Fatties must never cosplay" and then a bunch of people in between. I don't see how you're missing range here.

>>7485423
I warned you. I'm sorry...

How do I stop shoveling so much food into my mouth?
Someone help

>>7484793
>don't even look up obese coffins, unless you want to hurl.
They just look like big comfy beds to me...?

>>7485526
I also genuinely thought I was looking at beds for a while. How the fuck do graveyards accommodate this shit?

>>7484322
whatever I'm not even mad because she's wearing canvas slippers and not pointe shoes

>>7484621
It's not about sexual attraction you bint. Fat people have something wrong with them which is why normal people find them revolting and don't want them near their community. Is that so hard to understand? It's the same with people who are visibly ill. What if it's contagious?

>>7484374
she is fat as fuck. Maybe not man the harpoon fat but fat.

And this comes from a fatass

>>7485689
It's easy to understand thinking fat people are contagious if you're, like, 8 years old and still think people can have cooties.

But most of us adults have grown out of that phase.

>>7485730
It's not though, it's evolutionary. Everyone knows people with physical deformities aren't contagious but you probably feel revulsion when you see them too. And let's face it, being fat WAS a physical deformity up until modern times.
Pic related, what used to be a circus sideshow freak is now a common site at fairgrounds and your local wal-mart.

>>7485740
I don't know why you all insist it's so common when it's not.

>>7485435
No shit your body expands throughout the day to accommodate all the shit you put in it. The average fluctuation from food and water is around 5lb.

>>7485021
I did have the umbrella. :) I even splattered it in blood as well. I'm working on getting a thinner friend to do the same version so we can get some really awesome photos together.
>>7485035
I used a white one because the blood showed up better.

>>7485092
I agree with you about all this being pointless.
How NOBODY ever comes out of these threads with a changed mind.

I'm convinced they know they're being shitty people but like to argue for the sake of arguing for hours because they've got their own issues they're running from. Usually folks that are this harsh on others are doubly as harsh to themselves. Must suck.

>>7485258
Yup, well these people are massively delusional. Trying to attach a "cute label" to something grossly unhealthy.

>>7485526
>>7485538
They probably burn the bodies after. I mean, burying that shit would be insane.

>>7485741
Except it is. Have you ever been to New Jersey or the mid west? Ever?

>>7485788
>I'm gonna jump in even before reading the thread at all
Ha

>>7485825
>because scanning over 200 posts of back and forth bullshit is appealing to everyone
No thank you, although I'm sure in between your bickering that's a valuable gem of a post here and there. Though I doubt it came from anyone telling someone else how to live their life.

>>7485823
I see people like this in my store every day (I live in the midwest). Though I think the weight of 737lbs is exaggerated. She looks more like around 300-400lbs.

It's more common here because of our diets. We practically live off bread, pastas, and super-sugary things (sodas, snacks, etc) Lots and lots of carbs. People go out and about just to go shopping and run errands and then go home and sit. All those excess carbs turns to sugar and then to fat. That's the main reason I got fat. Limiting those carbs (and calories) without changing up my activity that much made me drop around 70lbs and I'm now to the size I was before I got fat. I'm still a little chubby but it's hidden well under clothing, and I've toned up a lot. Just not to the point where I'd be confident showing anything.

>>7484322
swiggidy swoogidy oh dear god I aint goin near dat booty

>>7484798
Obesity costs america more tax money than smokers now

>>7484812
You should do waist training with corsets anon, it'll help give you a more defined waist

>>7484841
But the "lack of control to maintain a healthy lifestyle" with anorexia is due to an extreme mental disorder, not laziness and coddling by society. Sometimes obesity is caused by mental disorders, but not often enough to compensate for a majority of people.

>>7485859
>with anorexia is due to an extreme mental disorder
How do you know that fatties aren't suffering from a mental disorder or from an ED?
You don't know. There hasn't been nearly enough studies on the mentalities behind obesity to assess that mental disorder don't 'compensate' for the majority of people who suffer from it. The fact that they've already added obesity as a legit disease testifies to the fact that it isn't just about getting too much coddling or being too lazy.
This >>7484734 had a lot of accurate comparisons that you're overlooking due to bias.

>>7485035
(I'm not really going to be that helpful at all since I just looked up the character for the first time but yeah) It's probably white, but they may use light blue for shadows/ the color may change slightly due to the surface she's reflected on.

There's a big difference between having fat, being fat and being obese.

Pun not intended.

>>7485838
Anon I'm trying to lose a bunch of weight and since you've lost 70lbs (congrats!) I wanted to ask if you had any problems with lose skin or anything? It's the one thing I"m scared of since you can't get rid of it without surgery.

Tell you what does contribute to weight gain. The contraceptive implant. Every girl I know who's had it, no matter what, gains weight.

Or gets depressed, or suffers from an increased appetite or both.

>>7484374
She certainly doesn't have the built of a ballet dancer.

>>7485874
>The contraceptive implant.
Really?
For me it's been the depo shot.
My parents coerced me to start taking it when I was 15 when they found out I was having sex. Gotta love those old fashioned Catholic parents who can't trust their daughters to make good choices because they don't communicate to begin with.

Anywho, I was on that from like 15-18 and for a brief stint when I was 20. I remember having massive amounts of weight gain no matter how well I stuck to a diet. Now there's studies coming out about an average body fat gain of something like 10% within years, plus the 'black box effect' whereby you lose bone density even if you've stopped taking it years after the fact. It scares me.

My nutritionist told me she had a client who gained something in the ballpark of 80 pounds within a couple years and the origins could be traced back to the shot.

Anyone here who has lost a substantial amount of weight... do... your breasts perk back up a bit?

>>7485874
I didn't gain weight on the implant, but it did make me more irritable and less sex-driven the entire time I was on it. Never again.

>>7485882
No, quite the opposite and that's due to skin elasticity which may vary from individual to individual.

I used to be nearing 250ish (I'm 5'4 btw) and now I weight 190 and still losing. I see no huge difference in perkiness, and a lot of the weight blogs I follow (with similar body types to mine) have always ended with people getting plastic surgery and breast augmentations which will no doubt be my fate too.
Pic related.
Girl had to get a tummy tuck, an arm tuck, and a breast augmentation to not look like a deflated balloon and yes she did lift and exercise while losing weight too.

>>7485883
Scary...Makes me wonder if I would just rather stay large. I'm kinda at 240 myself, though I have a slightly more curvy body than your pic(Wide hips, narrower waist, etc) I'd only lose weight for lolita.

>Dat face thinning
Gah. I don't want to look like my sisters.

>>7485874
>>7485884
Well, damn. Any experience with IUDs? I've been wanting one but I had awful side effects on pill form birth control and I don't want to deal with that again.

>>7485885
It's a tough decision for sure.
The problem with drastic weight loss is that people often blame the sagging skin issues on the individuals like they had any amount of control over it to begin with. Once your skin stretched past a certain elasticity (most often accompanied by stretch marks) no amount of exercise or building muscle is going to make it snap back into place.

But that's an issue that's completely taboo in Western media. People are shown weight loss stories where the individuals don't talk about, or blatantly LIE, about the procedures they underwent to lose weight (bariatric, lipo, augmentations) because they don't want to be judged for using means beyond diet and exercise to look good. It's the white elephant in the room but nobody ever wants to say it out loud. The people who do point this out get called "lazy" or "enabling" people when they're just stating facts.

>>7485891
the thing that scares me about sagging skin isn't so much the surgery in itself that you'd need to remove it.
It's the costs.
Be honest if you manage to get rid of a bunch of weight but end up with a bunch of sagging skin, you will feel proud about weighing less but your body still doesn't look good because sagging skin looks as ugly as the fat that used to fill that skin.
But it's all very expensive to get rid off (not sure how much) and then there's the huge scars...

>>7485891
Even if you lose weight very slowly?

>>7485888
I'm about four or five months into the copper IUD.

Pros: No hormonal bullshit, put it in once and forget about it, just have to check the strings occasionally. I haven't gained any weight or anything either.

Cons: The process of putting it in hurt like a bitch. I honestly thought I was bleeding out and dying. I also get pretty bad cramps now and bleed a lot. Fortunately the cramps respond pretty well to pain meds, but it still sucks.

I have no experience with the Mirena (hormonal) IUD because I didn't want to be on hormones again, even if they're supposedly only localized to the uterus, but those are my experiences so far.

>>7485873
I don't have any big problems with loose skin. I *might* have a slight issue with my triceps, and now that I'm specifically on a low carb diet, I'm noticing a bit of loose skin on my lower stomach area but it's not terrible and super gross looking. I don't have too far to go so I don't think I'll have any bad problems. I think it comes down to genetics, and how fast the weight was gained and lost. Age can play a factor too (but I'm also like early 30's). I've seen people that yo-yo'ed a lot, lost a lot, gained a ton back, lost it again and so forth and ended up with really loose skin. I guess the key in that case is to keep monitoring your weight/measurements and don't let yourself gain more than what you can lose reasonably in a few weeks.

>>7485882
I was really super topheavy (and apple shaped). I lost 7" in my bust. Went from a 40DD to a 34DD. But they're not too bad. I guess it would be different if I went from a 40DD to a 32B.

>>7485888
It does depend on the person but weight gain is a very very common side effect. I was on it for the full three years and I swear to god I've never been so miserable. I gained a stone a year and since I've come off it I've noticed drastic changed in appetite and emotionally.

A friend of mine went on it recently and the lbs just started to inch on and she's a regular dancer and she was getting very very upset by it.

>>7485895
If you're American like me then there's certain steps you can take to lessen the impacts of the cost of weight related surgeries.
One thing you do want to establish with your insurance is that your weight, and sagging skin issues thereof, has been an ongoing medical problem. You don't want your plastic surgery to be seen as "cosmetic."
If you haven't already then begin to document your complaints with a physician. Build a record of this bullshit.
One of my biggest complaints is my sagging gut. I have a stomach flap that's almost reaching my crotch like >>7485883 has on the far left. It already causes me a huge amount of pain when I'm exercising. I can only compare it to trying to jog without a bra, except that sensation is on my stomach and it's constantly pulling me.

And as far as the mental toll goes, it's been awful. I feel suicidal because I know I don't look like a normal person, but I'm cautious to voice this one because I don't think they will grant coverage for surgeries to mentally unstable people.
This girl's page was really helpful to me btw
>http://puffin-to-lose-the-muffin.tumblr.com/faq
You can probably find others like her too if you google.

>>7485896
Yes. Even if you lose weight slowly. If your skin is already damaged losing weight slowly isn't going to repair it. I suppose it may lessen the sag, but if you're already drastically obese like >>7485883 then the slight difference isn't going to matter a lot to you. You'll still have a bag on your belly.

>>7485905
Not American but still thank you for the info, I might not be from your country but I think a lot would still be the same.
But yeah thank you for all the tips and I will definitely look into them!

>>7485907
>Calling that drastically obese

I think I'm done.

>>7485920
It is. Look at her stomach and arms.
Yeah, she's no 400 pound landwhale but her skin is clearly stretched beyond its capacity. It's drastic, and the only reason why it doesn't look worse is because she's 5'9.

>>7485920
She's one hundred KILOGRAMS. Even if you calculate her BMI with a height of six foot she still has a BMI of 32. I highly doubt she's taller than six foot. Assuming average height of 5'5 she has a BMI of 39. She is morbidly, hideously obese no matter which way you slice it.

>>7485927
She's 5'9 for that matter, which would make for a BMI of 34,5. Yes that's obese but I wouldn't say she's morbidly obese

>>7485930
>morbidly obese
Well of course not. All 'morbid' means is that if one stays at their weight they have an increased risk of rapidly developing disease or sudden death.
At 5'4 and 245ish at my heaviest my BMI was considered morbid. But was I a cheeseburger away from death? No. I could probably exist like that well into my 50s granted I'd probably develop shit like diabetes and mobility issues after awhile. But I'd still be living.

The point is that obesity like hers and mine significantly brings down the quality of life both physically and emotionally. It fucking sucks to want to change yourself after you've realized you've made bad decisions, but you're literally impeded by shit that can only be fixed with expensive surgeries. I call that drastic. Having to lose 100+ pounds is drastic.

>>7485885
Personally, I'm 5'10" with a large frame, hour glass, and about 28% bfp, but at 235 I noticed I was getting lower back pain from just sitting up right. Now that I've lost 20 pounds it's gone. I don't know if you're starting to notice some minor pains like I was around that weight, but if you are weight loss definitely makes you feel much better (even if you will look like your sisters in the end).
At the end of they day, you may need some surgery, but sometimes insurance covers it and you can save up fro surgery during your weight loss.

it's kind of creepy how everyone here is so interested in this girl's weight and as to whether or not she's obese

>>7485368
That's just gas (the grey areas) from the large intestines/stomach.

>>7485935
Ah okay I agree with you though, especially the surgery part. Everyone can do exercise and dieting but surgery is absolutely not available for everyone who actually worked hard to lose all that weight. Sorry that last part of my reply didn't have to do much with your comment.

Well this thread just depressed the shit out of me. I'm down about 40 pounds now, still want to pull off more. But I'm down to a 29 inch waist and 30% body fat. Is there a way to tell if you're going to need skin tuck surgery...?

>>7485865
I've already said that obesity can be caused by an ED, such as BED (which accounts for 2% of all adult in the US). For now I can only accept the research that has been done, which suggests over eating and lack of movement cause weight gain. Also the comparisons are bull shit, because they compare things that are highly determined by genetics to something that is caused primarily by over eating and lack of compensating movement. You don't just have obesity like you have sickle cell anemia.

>>7485948
Post a picture with your face blurred.
There's no way to tell other than looking at it and seeing if you have any signs of major sag already.

>>7484693
Both patients' xrays were taken at the same spot. The reason why the patient on the right looks much smaller compared to the left is because the right person is much rounder. The closer the person is to the IR (image receptor), or board, then the closer to actual size they would look. The right looks smaller because her fat is forcing her body far from the receptor.
And if both pictures were taken on full inspiration, you can see that the patient on the right would get out of breath more easily than the left. Poor thing.

>>7485920
isn't it fun to watch diet marketing distort almost all of the people in this thread to think any fat on their body is disgusting?

anyone wonder why there was no big trends of dieting before President Taft lost a ton of weight in the early 1900's (film had captured him at his heighest weight of around 350 something, I think) and all of a sudden companies realized they could much tons of money from weight loss schemes? Then Hollywood shortly after showed people constantly what the new "ideal" was, the new standard that if you didn't meet up to, you were apparently fat and ugly.

http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/ejournals/ICC/2008/ICC2008Schessler.pdf
the first few paragraphs of this explains it really well. Never, ever underestimate consumer culture, marketing, and advertising. Come to your own decisions instead of being okay with the ones that other people have made for you.

>>7485951

The left is where I started, the right is where I currently am

>>7485950
>implying that two xrays with no source or medical date to accompany it means fuck all
>implying everyone has the exact same bones
>implying that xrays tell you literally everything about a persons health or something

>>7485952
>anyone wonder why there was no big trends of dieting before President Taft lost a ton of weight in the early 1900's
hahaha no

>>7485953
You're clothed. I can't tell.

>>7484970

it's because the 2nd anon is probably taller than you and the 1st actually exercises

>>7485874

I have it and have lost weight since getting it (without trying)

I was depressed beforehand and am still depressed, but it didn't make it noticibly worse

the amount of hormone that is secreted is much lower than other methods of birth control so I don't know why you'd think that there'd be a stronger correlation between it and weight gain than there would be with other methods

>>7485888

I have Mirena and I haven't experienced any noticible side effects, nor have I gained weight. It didn't really hurt to put in (maybe it would if the doc sucked at it? idk) and I haven't had my period in almost 2 years!

>>7485846
Well ain't that some shit.

>>7485973
yes because advertising, radio and tv existed before the 20th century, allowing all people and not just rich ones to jump onto trends

your move

>>7485901
Is that for the mirena?

>>7485883
This photo keeps me motivated to stay fit. Being that large destroys your body and especially your skin, which no surgeon can fix. Thank goodness my highest weight was only 15 pounds overweight. I'm running and lifting now. I don't know to ever end up that big . This photo is just sad to look at

>>7486011

I have the mirena iud and have experienced no weight gain, although I didn't gain weight from bc pills either. A friend of mine did though (from pills) and she currently has an iud and has not gained weight.

I don't know why it's so hard to just not eat a lot, it's not like it lowers your metabolism. It didn't make me more hungry either though just to clarify.

>>7486013
Also most people were POOR and already thin from working long hours and eating small portions, so of course they didn't have the time or need to buy fucking gym equipment and go on atkins. it's a testament to the 20th-21st centuries that even poor people aren't starving and can sit around and watch tv all day, not saying it's bad, but things have changed

>>7486002
I have Mirena, too. Hurt like a bitch to get inserted, but my period stopped within 2-3 months. For reference, before that, I was getting cramps so bad I was going to the ER, and feeling suicidal during PMS (took me forever to realize it was very specifically monthly...). I don't know if I gained weight from it because of a lot of other weight issues going on at the same time, but it helped with my periods so much I don't even care if it did. I'm coming up on my replacement now, so I've had mine almost 5 years. Highly recommended. It's cheap (one time cost instead of monthly), you can forget about. Only downside is STDs carry a much higher risk if you use one (infections can spread to places they wouldn't otherwise), so they always say to be careful with random hookups still.

Oh, and anon - it hurts more if you haven't had a kid, or if your cervix isn't open enough when they're trying to insert it. They usually try to do it on your period but they scheduled me a day late (I fucking told them too) and it was fucking misery. They actually had pulled the same shit on me the month before and had to reschedule, because they couldn't get it in at all. Nowadays (haha, only five years later), they'll give you a local anesthetic if you had a terrible experience the first time, thank god.

>>7485920
She is obese anon.

>>7486024

When I got it put it in didn't really hurt at all, just felt like some light pressure. About an hour later I experienced extreme cramping for about 90 seconds (assuming it's because haven't had kids), and that's the only "side effect" that I've experienced.

I've never heard anything about the increased risk of contacting STDs but I'd never sleep with someone I didn't know was clean so that hasn't been an issue for me.

>>7485947
But people with obesity want to be coddled and told it's not their fault.

>>7486022
>I don't know why it's so hard to just not eat a lot, it's not like it lowers your metabolism
Yeah it kind of irks me when people say "it made me gain weight!" it didn't make you gain anything, it made you hungry, you made yourself gain weight by eating too damn much and not working out.
Anyway thank you all for the advice, it's very helpful! I am still not sure if I want a mirena or copper IUD but it's given me a lot to think about.

>>7485927
>2014
>still using bmi

>>7486025
>even poor people aren't starving and can sit around and watch tv all day, not saying it's bad, but things have changed

LOL

yes, poor people sit and watch tv all day. they don't work hard for the families, they don't work multiple jobs, they don't sacrifice and struggle...they sit and watch tv all day. man, they might not starving, but they're not filled with nutrients. the food situation in america really is something, i mean you have to have had your head under a rock to not hear about how cheap foods are filled with corn (since it's subsidized by the government, it rakes in massive profits for food corporations), which is goddamn terrible for you. simple sugars, fats, high fructose corn syrup are in almost everything cheap at the store. pick up some random foods sometime and check out the ingredients. hey, let's think about how if you're eating really shitty food, your body will probably work like shit too, and then your health deteriorates and you can't make as much money for your family, and then you end up hospitalized and your family starves from medical bills. oh, and then they get demonized for accepting help for the government. maybe if we gave a shit about what poor people ate, we'd all be healthier and contributing more to the economy. think about it.

>>7486000
It's not about the amount of hormone, it's the type. The implant and IUD are progesterone only and progesterone only methods have much higher doses than combined, and it's the hormone that causes all of those symptoms.

I've gained 2 stone in the two years I've been on BC. Along with six week long periods, suicidal depression, acne and migraines (Which is supposed to be linked to oestrogen and why I was taken off the combined pill, but they're worse now which is supposed to be a medical impossibility.) There is not a single one that suits me and it fucking blows. Fuck femminsts for stopping the development of male contraceptives.

Sigh. Sorry for the blog.

>>7486037
It causes bloating and massive water retention too, which you can't do anything about. Contraception mimics pregnancy symptoms because it works by tricking the body into thinking it's pregnant.

>>7485953
It's actually doesn't work with clothing. That's why people take before /after photos in crop too and undies or shorts

>>7486045

progesterone only methods that are not the IUD have higher doses than combined

also I have had the mirena IUD for 2 years and have not experienced bloating, you probably just think you're bloated because you got fat

>>7486045
>Fuck femminsts for stopping the development of male contraceptives.

I think I missed something there. What does feminism have to do with stopping the development of male contraceptives?

>>7485881
You're lucky when it comes to catholic parents. My friend gets horrible & frequent ovarian cysts and her parents won't put her on birth control to help it because that shit's the devil. Lack of BC was also why she was born and why her parents have 3 other kids and a miserable marriage where the husband sleeps on the couch.

>>7486041
I like you. You're actually educated and know your stuff. It's really sad about the growing amount of food replacement or food fillers in American meals. It's actually what makes a lot of people fat and lazy without realizing it right away.

>>7486011
I had Implanon.

>>7486022
As I said, it depends on the person.

There's actually a lot of chemical reactions within the body that are to do with feeling full, feeling hungry, feeling thirst, associating taste (which builds towards comfort eating and stress eating) along with, strangely enough, time keeping.

If people don't have a lot to do food is a go-to way of passing the time. It's a lot easier to prepare than exercise and a hell of a lot less daunting.

As I stress, it is highly dependant on the individual and I am not trying to make excuses for obesity.

But as >>7485865 pointed out there really haven't been enough studies to say anything conclusive regarding mental, subconscious and physical reactions that contribute to obesity.

Contraceptive implants mess with your hormones and for a lot of people there are inexplicable links between those hormones and everything that relays messages about food.

Pointing out the one in a thousand example again as someone that works from home and does a lot of different jobs I find it really hard to keep track of what I'm eating. It tends to just be something that happens alongside what I'm working on. I'm managing to gain control over this by substituting my go to snack foods with healthy options (rediscovered my love of apples) and keeping a food diary whereby forcing myself to acknowledge what I've eaten and when. You'd be amazed how easy it is for someone who is not anorexic, or otherwise 'in control' to have a selective memory with regards to food. You'll remember breakfast, if you had it, lunch, dinner even, but not the chocolate bar in the car home from work for example. But this memory related example crosses well beyond food. People will remember a set of major tasks they did one day but not where they left their car keys, even though they knew they had them in their hand when they walked through the door.

>>7486050

why doesn't she just go to planned parenthood? That's what I did when I was a teenager cause my parents were nuts.

>>7486045
feminists actively encourage the development of all contraceptives, including male contraceptives, because it allows for reproductive freedom for everyone. are you high? I don't know a single feminist who would be against male birth control. Everyone I know is rooting for RISUG to be a legal procedure everywhere.

also, different kinds of hormonal birth control can cause weight gain from bloating or water retention, but some methods (the shot, for instance) only cause your appetite to go nuts. if you put yourself on calorie restriction when you go on birth control it will help prevent weight gain.

>>7486049
i think they might be referring to the feminists who pushed for the pill and taking their own contraception in their own hands. because modern feminists seem to be on the side of, it's everyone's fucking responsibility to not make a baby, let's all be adults here.

otherwise i have absolutely no idea what they're talking about

>>7486022

Also, to share a little bit about the genetic condition I mentioned before, sometimes the amount a person eats isn't the problem.

I have an abnormal imbalance between my HDL and LDL. Which, for those who don't know and it hasn't so far been mentioned in this thread, is my cholesterol levels.

Which, to really over-simplify the science, is linked to triglycerides which is what builds up in fat cells.

This means I have to work twice as hard to lose even half as much as an average person. It also means I gain weight twice as easily as the average person. Again I am massively simplifying.

To use other interesting examples about weight, food intake and nutrition.

I believe there have been cases world wide of teenagers who have lived on basically nothing but McDonalds who have died, or collapsed from malnutrition. Despite how much they eat.

>>7485953
I don't think you are big enough to need surgery after you lose weight. I personally know a guy who lost a bit over a hundred pounds and he obviously has loose skin but it's already beginning to snap back. Just take the proper precautions while you are loosing weight, such as loosing weight very gradually, staying very hydrated, and keeping your skin healthy and moisturized and I don't think there will be any problem!

>>7486052
hey, thanks anon! lol i always assume no one likes the person coming in with hard truths.

it really is, i mean, i was eating food from trader joe's and thinking it was fine for me until i looked at the average fat content of their packaged items. nope nope nope nope. plus, doctors don't like helping fat people. i have a chronic illness that made me gain tons of weight (no insurance, so i couldn't see a doctor before it got that bad), and i had at least 3 separate doctors say that they wouldn't help me until i lost weight, or if i lost weight my symptoms would be alleviated or etc etc etc. i have crohn's disease, btw, go ahead and figure out how losing weight will keep me from puking everytime i put solid food in my stomach.

>>7486041
>>7486067

do you go to muhlenberg college

>>7486048
>Also I have had the mirena IUD for 2 years and have not experienced bloating, you probably just think you're bloated because you got fat

>I haven't experienced something so it doesn't exist

It's listed as a side effect for it on every single medical resource on it you moron.

>>7486049
They lobbied against it so hard they stopped the development of the male pill.

>>7486057
See above, and some prominent feminist leader, Betty F-something-I-can't-spell led them to boycott the male pill during the initial talks for it.

I've also seen people on medication for depression and other mental health drugs where their appetite has been suppressed. They lose a lot of weight fairly quickly because they're not really eating anything. But they all end up being skinny-fat because they tend to eat comfortable food, which isn't necessarily healthy of nutritious food. So it's not fat that they're losing.

The science behind all this stuff is fascinating.

>>7486069

tons of side effects are listed even if they don't actually happen as a result of the medication, they have to list side effects that the placebo groups experience too

>>7486065
someone mentioned in a different thread that if you have stretch marks you might be more likely to have loose skin, i might advise picking up some Bio Oil or something to help your skin be a little more elastic-y in advance. might help?

>>7486041
I knew someone was going to get their panties in a wad over this, please point out to me where I said ALL POOR PEOPLE DO THIS, rather than the factually true statement that they basically can if they want to.

>>7486070
nope, wrong coast

>>7486078
>basically can if they want to.

but that's my point. they might want to. but they can't. because they're working. are you just marveling over the invention of modern technology that has the ability to be accessed in the private home? there are poor people who can't afford cable or computers, by the way, you might be forgetting. not everyone is just lower middle class.

>>7486065
...how often do you see this man butt naked to know his skin is snapping back? Also many fatties don't get stretch marks and therefore don't have as bad skin elasticity issues than others.

> be actually curvy
> 23" waist with nice hips and decent tits
> cant own it in fear of being called fat because muh curves

fatties you are not curvy youre lumpy

>>7486108
No, you can own it. Just say "hourglass" instead of "curves."

>>7486134
when fat girls say their curves are an hourglass, they are really "calender tubes."

>>7486134
yeah, did you read the hourglass anons above? the shape hides your actual weight really well, it's hard to read weight when it's all T&A lol

I know the Mirena secretes progesterone but in small, localized amounts. I've taken progesterone BCP before and had terrible side effects (severely increased depression & weight gain - though probably because of increased appetite). Would the Mirena cause similar side effects despite a lower dose of hormones? I'm not so much worried about the weight gain since I just need to exercise self control, but I really don't want my depression to worsen (I took Plan B a couple months ago and my depression went haywire for a couple days.)

>>7486067
Ugh sorry to hear that. My best friend had Crohn's disease and he had to change his entire diet for it; he became a vegaterian. Good luck anon. And it's always smart to look at food ingredients before eating anyway. I try to be more aware of that myself when I shop.

>>7486108
You sound massively obnoxious.

>>7485888
Just a bit over two years in the Paragard (copper/non-hormonal) and I love it. I was able to lose the last stubborn five pounds, increased libido, natural mood swings, etc. Only downside was heavier periods for the first eight months or so, but even that went away eventually. Insertion was painful, but only took 5 minutes or so (with about 30 seconds or less of actual pain) and then bad cramping for about 24 hours.

In short, I love the damn thing, and the best part is I don't have to get it removed until I'm 35,and by that time I should be able to get sterilized!

>>7486108
...lmao.
>"I can't do something because fatties do it too and lord knows I couldn't handle being remotely associated with the language they use because I guess someone would be retarded enough to link my 23 inch waist to a fatties' 40 incher."

>>7484746
I beg to differ. I have a friend with a 29 inch waist and while she's not skinny, she's fit and has a flat tummy that I'm jealous of. (I have a 25.5 in waist, for reference).

>>7486253
Did you honestly skip over all the posts where we said height and muscle mass were key points too? Learn 2 read

>>7485957
Lol, I only stated what I observed. The person on the right has smaller lungs than the person on the left, therefore, the patient on the right may have more breathing problems (aka: shortness of breath) than the patient on the left. You mad, fatty?

>>7486265
i'm just tired of seeing those posted again and again with no data to tell people what exactly they're looking at, sorry if i directed it all at you

>>7484746
>mfw 28" waist and planning on bare midriff cosplay
>:'(

>>7486289
see
>>7486256

>>7486289
As long as your torso is toned or at least not flabby, you should be fine.

>>7484690
Did she... You know...

Try not being a whore? Just because you have a nice body doesn't mean you have to be a stupid slut.

I smell bullshit.

>>7484721
Coming from an ortho:

Big boned is a fucktarded excuse. Being fat can actually compress your skeleton, as you can tell by the poor fucker's tiny ass lungs.

>>7485957

radiologymasterclass.co.uk

>>7484810

OH JESUS I'M DYING!

I need to burn my BMW now... I hear fatties can smell leather from 1,000 leagues!

>>7484680
>>7484700
>>7484710
>>7484727
I bet you're all fat.

>>7485881
Depo shot did this for me, so did the psych meds I was on as a preteen and teen. Pain meds will do this as well. I've got a copper IUD now and it's one of the best things I ever did, wish I got it in high school instead of years on the shot.

>>7485895
To be honest I am that level of overweight and the pic was pretty inspiring- the level of sag is way less disgusting looking in the before surgery pic than I thought it would be. Still not perfect, but not like, 2/10.

>>7486037
What is neuroscience?

Does anyone have any links to really good websites that show what portion sizes are, and more information about healthy eating?

I grew up in a family where no one knew what a proper portion size was (at 12 I was eating what I feel an adult and a half would probably eat), and their idea of a super healthy meal was fish sticks, 2 full potatoes, and maybe half a handful of veggies. I feel like to do this right and become healthy I need to basically retrain myself, and teach myself properly. Because I hardly ever eat any real junk food (one night a week when Hannibal is on) and I haven't lost anything. I'm 90% sure it's because I was never taught what a real healthy meal is and what a proper portion is.

Honestly I'm not even doing it for cosplay, or for lolita, I know how to dress my body so that both things can be flattering, I'm just tired of being treated like a fetish object. Sure there are guys out there that like bigger girls. However none of them treat me like a girlfriend, they treat me like a fetish object. I just want someone to like me for me, and not just because I'm fat.

>>7486827
It's so good you want to learn more about that, anon! It's weird how they don't teach that sort of thing in health class, you know? Anyway, the biggest advice I can give you is to look at the labels of what you're eating. Look at what a serving size is and the nutritional content of it. You'll learn a lot about what you're eating and what's really terrible for you right away. As far as resources, I did some googling and found some things! Here's a small article about how it can be very difficult to determine how many servings are in a portion: https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/public/heart/obesity/wecan/eat-right/distortion.htm; here's one that lists visual portion cues and serving sizes for each food group: http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/weight-loss/multimedia/portion-control/sls-20076148?s=1; this one lists some visual cues and also gives some decent advice at the end for keeping an eye on your eating: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/patientinstructions/000337.htm..
If you're the sort of person that can write down what you eat and keep track, do it! That'll help a lot, too. Hope this helps a bit, anon, good luck!

>>7486827
I recommend biking and running. do light weight fast rep exercise and you'll be thin in no time. just think of what you want to look like and try to achieve it

>>7486827
If it's not something I prepare myself, I research it. Most of the places I try to eat out at have decent sized portions for calories and things that I watch. I will typically load up on veggies and meat, but go low on items that are high in carbs.

If you go to a more expensive sit-down resturant, usually one portion is usually half or 1/3 of the plate depending. (a 1000-1200 calorie dish comes out to 500-600 calories, halved which is what I aim for per meal or usually less. So get used to getting boxes, or just eat that plus something small earlier in the day.) Though usually restaurants like that are rare occasions and I usually prepare and plan for them. But get in the habit of researching and planning.

Eventually, the goal is to eat until you are satisfied but not until you are full. I know way too many people who complain about weight problems or weight-related health issues that gorge themselves every meal until they are stuffed rather than just getting a bite to eat.

>>7484675
Little late but I'll bite, I have a thyroid problem and PCOS, I was always chubby but not fat (155cm with 55 to 57kg), that until 2010 when depression ruined my life like a motherfucker, I gained 20 pounds, dropped out of college and became a shut in.

Everyday I tried to improve my routine, take a shower everyday, get a job, find a boyfriend, do something; losing weight was in that list too, I learned about my hormonal condition, food and exercise, and guess what, I lost weight (right now I'm at 40 to 43 kg) just by counting calories and changing options (you know eating more veggies and not eating sugar everyday), I don't exercise because that includes a shower and I still can't shower everyday.

My point is that I lost weigh without changing my life for good or for bad. I'm still a shut in and skip therapy, losing weight didn't change my life for good (and it will not change yours for bad) is just a small change, not a control game that you have to win (if that is the case I could be doing something with my life right now instead of contemplating suicide) don't make a big deal out of it and don't make any excuses.

>>7485819
ugh, all of that burning fat...

>>7484876
Woofuckinghoo good for you Uncle Ruckus, how bout you get off your fat ass and stop cosplaying period.
Stop being a special snowflake and lose weight. you shouldn't be cosplaying until you lose weight.

>>7484793

>mfw i actually looked this up