/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I know it's spring but...

>>7452478

I get the weirdest feeling of rage whenever I go to my local meet and we trade clothes and I see that some girls are wearing "normal" panties and bras instead of cute frills or prints that match their dress.

Can't you dedicate yourself enough to pick out some cute underwear as part of your coord?

UGH!

>>7452497
Please tell me you're not serious.

I'm not going to spend money on fancy frilly underwear that nobody is going to see. Why bother.

Not to mention my wal-mart 12-pack cotton panties are much more comfortable for long-term wear anyway, and I have pretty much no chest so I usually wear an undershirt ot cami as opposed to a bra.

>>7452497
I have that disappointment too, I loooove 100% frilly so much. I wish brands made lacy panties as add-on items with a dress purchase!
I'm that way with luxe makeup and good perfume too though.

>>7452497
I don't care about matching underwear, but what kind of meet are you guys going to where you just change in the middle of a room in front of people?

>>7452497
>tfw 28F
I will never have cute bras that match my dresses.

>>7452497
yeah, you can go fuck yourself. All that hype for over priced matching lacey bras and panties when you can get an 8 pack at target for $7 and i just wear sport bras since i'm a B anyway. I'm not going to spend extra money on something no one cares about (i'm in a long term relationship anyway haha)

>>7452553
that's not true, there are cute online shops that have small band sizes and 'larger' cup sizes. Since most people these days wear the wrong sizes, smaller bands and bigger cups are much more common on webstores that have the modern fitting techniques.

>>7452566
I'm not sure if I hate those tights on the left more than I hate the fact that the one on the right is carrying the bear and not wearing tights. Ugh!

You need to post what bugs you about it the most as well, along with the picture...this is a nitpick thread so get picking.

>>7452561
LOL I buy pretty lingerie even for everyday BECAUSE I'm in a long-term relationship. I would probably buy anyway if I was just by myself because I always have so I'm just kind of used to it. I'm greedy that way but still...

>>7452553

>28HH
>mfw just got referred to a plastic surgeon for a reduction last week
>gon' be a perky C cup, fuckyear


I will buy ALL the cute bra+panty sets!! Just got a new credit card and I'mma max that fucker out, yo.

>>7452732
Dita Von Teese's new line is very pretty. I've been eyeing some sets...

>>7452497
>Caring way too much about someone else's underwear

You should be ashsmed

>>7452761
They said it was 'weird' so they kind of know it shouldn't rustle them...but I can't always control what offends me either, can you? We all have our irrational peeves, that's why nitpick threads are successful. It helps to just vent them and get on with it.

You shouldn't care that someone else cares about someone else's underwear. Lol.

>>7452732
Mad jelly. Hope it goes well for you! I'm a 28G, been wondering about getting surgery for years but I'm scared of it all fucking up somehow.

>>7452566
>>7452605
> awkward posing
> dress and blouse don't fit on left
> department store blouse on both
> shitty shoes w/ no socks or tights on right
> huge ass wig on left
> unkempt hair on right
> lack of nice accessories on both (bear and shitty looking bracelets)
> neither have any sort of photo flattering makeup

>>7452823
I am really glad to see bad fit pointed out as a part of the nitpick thread. I hope to see it more and more. It may not be enough to cause a coord to be called ita, but it certainly is enough to make it look bad. There is an empire waist JSK version of Twinkle Journey but this version was designed to sit at her natural waistline.

If you look at the publicity photos for the dress release or even look at the manikin it's displayed on, it's pretty easy to determine where the waist is supposed to sit on a dress… And if it's significantly higher or lower than that on the wearer, then it doesn't fit. Ditto for tighter.

It's not like the hem of skirts which can be higher or lower on someone taller or shorter and still technically "fit ".

The high street blouses may be a personal preference nitpick, but it's one that I share. There are so many beautiful Lolita blouses for about the same price as a decent department store blouse but there's really no excuse for substituting them.
If it's a cheap blouse, well… Cheap blouses in Lolita usually look cheap.

I love the wig but not styled like that. And yeah, the make up issue when you know you're going to have your photos taken. You can't always control the lighting or the flash but you can make sure that your make up is at least visible and presentable. Ideally you should take some test photo shots in the lighting that you are going to be photographed in and then adjust your make up slightly after you see the test shots in the screen. People can cry that that's too much trouble for casual photos, but they are always crying harder when they complain about the bad photos of them they get posted.
Good work anon, nice nitpick.

>>7452880
Fit is unfortunately a reason that I don't buy lolita.
Broad back /prominent shoulder blades coupled with a cup size over a 'B' (i.e over 2" of difference between high and full bust) does not work out in my favor.

The girl of the left in >>7452566 has a very ill-fitting blouse in addition to the now baby-dolled JSK

>>7452756
Me too, I have one piece from the last collection and I adore it.

>>7452914
Skirts with custom blouses and a custom jumper like pic related might be a good option for you if the skirt waists can fit you. I plan to have one made in black velvet this autumn, I'm long waisted.

>>7452549

We meet at 2 of our members houses, since they're really nice and big enough to accommodate our meets. It's all girls, so when we trade or try on each others outfits we just change in one of the rooms upstairs liberally.

>>7452549
>>7452507
>>7452561

I really didn't know seagulls like you girls existed, I ALWAYS assumed that a nice set of undergarments was key to making you feel great from the inside out, no matter what coord you're wearing.

>>7453339
What makes me feel great is cotton underpants with a wide waistband and high waist, that fully cover my ass and are therefore wide enough not to ride up my asscrack during a hike. I can't imagine polyester, lace and chiffon making anyone feel good other than it being in pretty colors with cute pictures and embellishments that the washing machine fucks up anyway (or you have to hand wash them). Same goes for bras. I can look cute on the outside, but if anyone has a problem with me being comfortable and not wearing the Hanging Gardens of Babylon on my tits and ass just for looks, they can go fuck themselves with a 10-inch dildo as far as I'm concerned.
Same goes for heels, I'd just never give up comfort for cheap eye candy. Women's clothes are already becoming shittier and shittier, tops are more and more synthetic and see-through and clothes manufacturers often forget to even slap on some normal-ass pockets. At least my underwear ought to be comfortable and high quality.

>>7453367
So you're basically confessing you're wearing granny panties

>>7453367

>do you even lolita, like, at all?

>>7453384
You bet your barely covered ass I am, I never knew comfort before I tried on a pair.
(In all seriousness pic related is the most comfortable type of undies in the world, it's like my asscrack doesn't even exist with these on)

>>7453386
Yes.

>>7453367
>>7453392
I like you a lot.
And yes, woman can be comfortable and still look good. I noticed the lack of material and good fabrics used in women's clothing. Go to any H&M and see all that sheer tops and cheap ass pants and skirts.
by the way, just because something isn't wearing a thong or underwear from victoria's secret that rides up your crack, doesn't mean its granny panties. and if they were, so fucking what? you're not going to see them. I'd rather be comfortable than some bitch who complains about her feet hurting or gets a rash or yeast infection from her gross underwear

>>7453367

>complaining about your "asscrack"
>complaining about washing machine ruining nice lingerie
>complaining about having to hand wash clothing
>complaining about nice looking bras being cheap and uncomfortable
>randomly bringing up heels when anon was posting about underwear
>complaining about women's clothing being "shittier" and "cheap eye-candy"
>"clothes manufacturers"

I can't tell if you're a landwhale or just a buthurt ugly-chan that can't make lolita work for you.

If you're going to buy "comfortable and high quality" granny panties, why brag about it? I see no reason for you to claim that wearing your cheap cotton undies somehow makes you better than an anon that probably spent quite a bit of hard earned money on a nice pair of underwear that made her feel nice about having a complete coord.

>>7453406
buthurt american female detected.

abandoning thread now. there's better lolita nitpicking threads anyways with real lolita discussions going on.

>>7453392
where does one buy cute grannie panties and bloomers irl, or with cheap shipping online? Anyone have any good search terms?

>>7453419
1) I buy size S so I don't think so, I just have a big ass
2) I wasn't bragging, I was explaining to the anon who asked, why do you feel so threatened by my cotton underpants?
3) You're making it sound like throwing money into the wind for pretty underwear is a clever thing to do
4) I don't care what anyone wears because I won't be looking at it, I was explaining to her why
5) Vagina >>> sand

>>7453406
I find it ridiculous that girls wear sky high stilettos and then complain about foot pain, but hey at least they look "sexy"!
There are girls who swear on their mothers' graves that those shoes are "sooooo comfortable" yet whine if they have to walk somewhere for longer than 15 minutes and say that their feet are killing them.
Just reminds me of Terry Richardson's slimy boner for women who "bear pain to look beautiful".

>>7453428
If you're in Europe Zalando has cute ones, also stores like Lindex and Women's Secret. Most are cotton.

>>7453455
>twf heels and genetics actually damaged feet
I'm a good candidate for surgery, apparently...

Lol at the underwear discussion in here.

My biggest nitpick in general are bloomers or pettis in colors that look terrible with a dress--most likely to be darker bloomers/pettis with lighter dresses.
Mostly because it's really cute for sweet lolitas when it peeks out just a little or when you're twirling etc. The pastels with white floof is just so cute.

>>7452732
jealous :c i went from DD after graduating hs to like god idek 36G now, I think? FF? Somewhere around there depending on brand. i've been losing lots of weight (chronic illness, it's unhealthy weight loss before i get any congrats or anything) so now i can tell there's like...empty space if you know what i mean? too much skin and too little tissue, i guess. i'm really sensitive about them lately, i feel like a fucking 40 year old and i'm only 24 :c i really want a reduction, even just back to DD or E or so would be nice...probably would help my back pain at the very least.

More of a general nitpick but I'm really hating this trend of lolita coords going more costumey with things like props (scepters, sashes) and just generally not looking like lolita anymore but just fancy regency ladies.

>>7453367
Pretty much this.

I get so uncomfortable in fancy frilly underwear. I'll buy ones with cute prints on them, but never anything with frills or anything. Bows end up wrecked in the laundry anyway. Sometimes I'll go for ones with the lace on the top band, but that's about it.

I like hipster panties just because I usually wear low-cut jeans and I don't want my undies sticking out. Pic related is what I usually wear. Comfiest. I hate when I buy them and then they end up being like booty shorts and ride up my ass though.

But yeah, like, comfy underwear, Usually a sports bra or no bra, because small titties. I also usually wear socks under my tights because otherwise the seam digs under my toenails, and that hurts a LOT and I can't walk around like that for a long time.

usually i dont care enough to post but...

what the actual fuck

>>7453580
Its just a fucking mess
i dont even know where to begin with concrit

that hat. its hideous. and the bow? and mixing a salopette with a sheer overlay? Glasses? The angel wing things from etsy? UGH

>>7453565

Lol >>7453580
>what the actual fuck
Anon, I think this would fit into an ita thread, not just nitpicking thread, since I suspect it was posted in a lolita-specific context.

>>7453580
I can't wait for the granny-bathrobe-over-stuff trend to die.

That said if she took all the extra crap off, the basic outfit looks okay (might go for a different blouse though) and the girl is cute.

>>7453591
She literally has to get rid of anything cult-party in the outfit and the magical girl stuff if she wants it to be lolita.
The tiara just needs to go entirely, regardless.

>>7453591
If she had just picked one theme to go with it would eb okay. Like cult party and flowers. Or the sailor moon crap. Or the angel wings.
But nope! let's throw it all together because more = better

>>7453613
i guess she is trying to be a magical girl or something? It looks like she's in the miami comm.

I mean, technically all the elements are nice, but they arent cohesive at all.

>>7453598
agreed, I hate it too. I only like it in small doses :(

>pic from fb of her as well

>>7453622
Different shoes and get rid of the random hanging glove and I'd actually like this but I'm not sure I'd call it lolita?

I recall seeing something about someone trying to start/fuel mahou-kei and I think this is her.

>>7453580
>>7453591
Met her at MegaCon and she was mega cute. These pictures don't do her justice. She looked like a fuckin fairy.

>>7453580
>>7453591
when will people realize cult party kei and lolita cant be friends?

>>7452607
This exactly! Complacency just leads to a really dull relationship. Plus, why shouldn't you parade your cahooters is lacey fabrics? They are your lady jewels.

>>7453455
who are you replying to? i dont wear heels and i dont see a reason to wear sky high stilettos ever.

>>7453655
it's not for everyone. when i met my current wife, she wore big cotton panties and still does. and i love her more than any woman on this planet. I guess i dont care about what underwear looks like as long as she's comfortable and happy.

>>7453655

I'm so glad people like you exist. I love shopping for he cutest panties whenever I go to specialty shops. It really adds some spice to my relationship when my bf sees I have a different pair on all the time.

>>7453645
When people realize that Marvel superheroes and lolita can't be friends and Frozen and Homestuck shouldn't be friends, and Tumblr should be completely ostracized and left alone to die

>never

>>7453659

>tips fedora

>>7453655
I wear fancy underwear when I'm going to get frisky. But if I'm going to a god damn lolita meet, I don't need to wear sexy underwear. Lolita is enough, I don't need uncomfortable underwear underneath it all.

>>7453580
At least the salo, tights and shoes look nice together? Everything else looks so tacked on.

>>7453673
Yeah, i'm a woman too, so you can go somewhere else with that shit.
I'm just saying lacy, sexy undies that arent very comfortable -- it's not for everyone is all.

>>7453675
You can get cute and comfortable underwear that suits your style without having it pick it out of your bunghole. I mean, you can buy satin briefs even, and those are incredibly comfortable to wear and cute to boot.

>>7453683
I agree. I own more thongs than regular panties, but I do prefer bikini cuts and high waist vintage style lingerie. The thongs are only really helpful for when I'm wearing a dress and I don't want the underwear lines to show. Once I get home, off it goes.

>>7453685
Also wearing underwear that aren't cotton is incredibly awful for your vag. And not to be too gross, but I'm one of the women who is cursed with a lot of discharge, so it's just really gross wearing underwear that aren't absorbent. I wear pantyliners most of the time, but it's best to be safe.

>>7453695
I had that problem, but then when I got onto birth control it began to lessen the amount. I still need liners, but now I only leak if I'm running around and being active.

It isn't gross, to me. I mean, the vagina is self cleaning. That's why we have that discharge and only should douche when a doctor says to. If anything, it's nice to not have to reach up in there.

>>7453695
>>7453704
I thought it was just me. I wear cotton and liners because i discharge a lot, and i dont know if it's a condition, but i have this issue where i get vaginal fluid (wet or what you want to call it) for no reason. Even if i am not aroused.
I learned the hard way when i messed up the pants of a cosplay i made at 17 (my first otakon in 2003) and since them i've worn cotton panties because it's more comfortable and safer for me.

>>7453753
oh man me too

do you ever buy black underwear and they start bleaching at the crotch over time? i can't even with that

i don't really wear liners or anything, they're really uncomfortable for me...i just deal with buying more underwear than most people have to

>>7453753
This is exactly my problem.

Like, I thought it was normal for a while and then I was like "wait..."

I went maybe 6 years with toilet paper rolled up in my underwear until I was old enough to have my period and actually needed pantyliners, and then I never went back.

>>7453704

It's not necessarily "gross" but it feels nasty as hell, especially when you go to the bathroom and then it's all cold and being smooshed back up into your vagoo... or when it dries and leaves crust in your underwear. Eugh.

>>7453695
>>7453704
>>7453753
Will you nasty as fuck bitches shut up and get out of /cgl/ before /r9k/ and /a/ start screencapping your bullshit and claiming all girls are like you? And get your nasty axe wounds checked, you should not need to wear liners year round.

>>7453757
I have the opposite problem, staining my white panties a vague yellowish cream color.

>>7453760
It's a thing. Women have different levels of discharge, and some have more than others. It's normal and healthy so long as it's not like obscene amounts, and as long as it doesn't smell weird or is colored strangely.

You're lucky and only have a small amount of discharge. Some women have it 24/7. It happens.

>>7453760
i'm always super wet when i have sex and my husband thinks it's the hottest thing ever soooooo

>>7453763
I have it 24/7
And it's really stringy and gooey
And looks like boogers and worms
I went to my gyno and she said I'm fine :C
what is going on, am I gonna spawn aliens

>>7453776
Also this. Never have to into lube.

>>7453763
"Normal" is not so heavy daily that you need to wear liners. That's obscene amounts. You're panties should not get crusty after one day of use.

>>7453776
Wet during sex and constant, excessive discharge are two entirely different things. One is a physical response to stimuli, the other is your vagina trying to clean something out - which either means your cunt is really dirty or you have some form of infection or vaginal allergy. Seriously, go to any gyno, they'll tell you that if you need liners daily, something's wrong.

>>7453651
I know, you were talking about being comfortable vs looking good and I said some women wear insane heels which I can't understand.

>>7453783
Oh lord. I'm sorry. Mine's 24/7 but not icky like that. I guess it's normal, there's just a lot of it.

I wish there was a way to fix that for you, anon.

>>7453792
I don't think you get that different people work differently. It's not trying to get something gross out, some people just produce more.

>>7453792
You know nothing about vaginas. I've been to 3 different gynos. Every one of them told me it's fine and perfectly healthy. Actually, more than healthy, because that means that my vag is keeping itself extra clean.

It started when I was 13. It stayed the same from then till now, and I didn't get my period until I was 16. It's been constant and stable the whole time. I have not had a fucking infection for 10 years, and I sure don't have a dirty cunt, ESPECIALLY not when I was only 13.

It's normal. Different people have different vaginas which behave differently. Yours is not the same as mine, but that doesn't mean one is unhealthy.

>>7453798
Me too.
I had ultrasounds done, pap smears, blood tests, infection tests... All said nothing was wrong.
Yet I have nasty boogery discharge and and feel like a slimy snail because of it.
Some girls just weren't meant to have a garden of roses down there, instead we have factories of radioactive waste.

>>7453783
Go get a second opinion. I'm not a gyno (only a nurse) but that strange texture does sound alarming. It should be much less viscous. I know a lot of new gynos will only check for lumps and odor without really caring about anything else. The sad truth is that if they can't prescribe a pill or surgery, they'll purposely let things get worse to make more money. Basically, we all make commission if you see our doctor bill separate from the hospital bill.

Here: http://www.health24.com/Medical/Diseases/Vaginal-discharge-20120721

Not the most professional website, but a good summary in clear English rather than medical jargon. What I'm hearing in this thread does sound excessive. Part of the problem could be common irritation from urine contamination. Do you ladies use toilet paper, or wet wipes? Because I can tell you now that toilet paper only smears things around, which can actually encourage infection and irritation. And unlike yeast infections, urine irritation does not show up in the normal tests. Try using wet wipes instead of toilet paper for a month and see if it reduces any.

>>7453814
Wet wipes irritate the fuck out of my vag, but I tend to dab rather than wipe with TP so I doubt that's the issue.

I shouldn't say that it's "cosntant," but it's more like an everyday thing. Like, I can get away with one pantyliner for all day and not have to change it, I wear them to protect my poor underwear from the inevitable.

>>7453792
Oh, I suppose my vag is not as normal as I thought... But I wouldn't say it's excessive either. Well, then again, I don't have anyone to compare with.

What about rather burst of liquidy transparant fluid? Because sometimes I'll sit up and then woosh.

>>7453814
Thanks, I'll see what happens.
They just told me it was cervical mucus and my discharge really isn't that bad all the time, but right now it looks gross as hell.
I don't know, whenever I complain about anything people just tell me I'm "overreacting" and leave it at that.

>>7453798
Not to intrude, but more discharge doesn't mean your body is keeping itself cleaner. It just means that it is responding to something. Just like if your eyes (the only other self-cleaning organ) start running, they aren't keeping themselves cleaner they are responding to something. As a nurse all I can say is that you are probably healthy, but you might still want to try wet wipes. It could reduce the thickness and quantity in the case that your body is reacting to urea or even dyes that are in your underwear.

>>7453792
i am >>7453776 , i have fairly constant or at least more discharge during the day but that also means that when i do have sex it just sort of adds to it. i've literally only been dry during sex one time and it was really weird and out of nowhere lol

>>7453820
Wet wipes should not irritate your body. Did you accidentally get scented? Or wet wipes for hands/showers on accident? To be safe, try baby wipes then, just not any that contain the preservative methylisothiazolinone. That causes rashes in the rare 1% that have allergies, but there's no reason to take that risk.

>>7453840
Wow, people's bodies are all different!

>>7453825
or you know, i'd much rather listen to medical professionals than someone who doesn't know shit.

>>7453848
Wet wipes designed for sensitive areas should not irritate said areas. Don't be childish. It's more likely that they accidentally grabbed generic wet wipes (which are for hands unless specified and contain alcohol for cleaning purposes-ouch) And I recognized that different bodies are react differently, hence why I recommended baby wipes even though I suspect they used the wrong regular wet wipes. Baby wipes are for extremely sensitive skin and are always intended for wiping sensitive areas.

>>7453850
Go ahead and stick your head in the sand. I am a nurse and I only wanted to help, which includes correcting false information. Your body wouldn't discharge for no reason. The average adult has thin, clear discharge with a bit of cloudiness in very small quantities throughout the day. A constant bit of discharge is normal, but there shouldn't be enough to create a consistent crust layer every day throughout the month (though peak days near ovulation there might be).

There are no pills or procedures to reduce the amount of discharge. It isn't unhealthy neccesarily, but it is a reaction to something. For some people it is urine irritation, which can be solved by wet wipes (or baby wipes for more sensitive skin). For some people it's dyes in their underwear (panty area should be white, and not have dye on the other side either). For others it's lack of airflow (too many layers, like undies/undershorts/pants combos). There's plenty of reasons, but it's not cleaning extra for no reason.

>>7453810
If you watch your cycle, it could be a just before ovulation

>>7453757
>do you ever buy black underwear and they start bleaching at the crotch over time?
but did you wonder if you just had a poisonous vagina?

>>7453875
Second nurse-anon reporting in for information confirmation.

>>7453655
My boyfriend love buying me nice lingerie, and unless I'm on my period or going to do sports, I always wear something at least cute. I mean, I wouldn't wear my Chantal Thomass everyday (it's so comfortable thought), but some nice bra+shorty combos from middle end clothing stores like H&M is perfectly ok for everyday wear and still prettier and more comfy than your regular WallMart panties.

>>7453917
The term is "acid-gina", anon.
And it's a real thing.

>>7453941
>>7453917

lol i looked it up a while ago. discharge is a bit acidic, so if you have more of it, it has a bleaching effect. nbd

>>7453875
Wrong. You're clearly not a nurse. You only have clear discharge in the very narrow window when you're fertile. Otherwise cloudy is perfectly normal.

>There are no pills or procedures to reduce the amount of discharge
Wrong again, birth control changes the amount of discharge as stops you from having a fertility cycle. This isn't true for everyone but it's common enough to be listed in the leaflet that comes with it.


>>7453941
It's not acidic, it's alkaline as is bleach.

>>7453953
No it isn't. See above.

>>7453937
Chantal Thomass just looks like a hooker uniform

>>7453957
Chantal Thomass is high end and classy, I usually goes for their traditionnal/retro look and it's perfect for me. I like Estelle Lauder and Lejaby a lot thought.

>>7453596
I agree, upgraded to ita if it was tagged Lolita. I like lolita. I like CPK. I don't like this.

>>7453637
That's lovely.
>still not Lolita.

>>7453339
You should have known better. Most Lolitas wear cheap or basic underwear and cut corners or don't care about anything that isn't actually on display. A few of us do care about these things but sadly, that's the reality.
Lolis not lovelies, most of them...not really.

>>7453783

>>7453565
I laugh at the sashes because in reality, wearing one with a street-length dress is a huge faux pas...it just isn't ever done. They are only worn with formal gowns. Except for the pageant gals who wear them with shorter dresses and their crowns to functions and appearances. So it really reinforces the 'hey look I'm wearing a princess costume' vibe.

>>7453580
God damn you have to put in effort to fuck up DDC

>>7454172
Surprisingly, no. It's very easy to fuck up that dress. I've not seen very many people who have worn it well.

>>7454172
lol that girls a fashion fuck up and has no fashion sense

>>7453937
>>7453965
>>7453957
I think they are lovely and feminine! I can't afford them without cutting into my Lolita budget but you can bet I'm going to be looking for something similar and more budget friendly. It's depressing to wear ugly underwear!

/jp/ here. You women are disgusting as hell.

>>7454249
lol

>>7454249
no one gives a fuck where you're from especially it it's a board full of neckbeards who jizz on figmas. please tell everyone from your board to stop announcing it like it means something

>>7454268
it's like it's something to brag about for them

that they can ... cum on figurines and weeb while wanking into each others thick neckbeards

>>7454268
haha /jp/ bitch abandoned ship. stay on your own board from now on. we don't want you here.

>>7454296
>>7454275
>>7454268
>>7454263
lol this janiturd stinks ass.

could not decide between nitpick and ita so i'll just start here to be safe

the more i look at it the more things i cringe at

>>7454893

everything about hellobatty is something to cringe at

>>7454893
worked so hard to make that classic dress sweet
but in the end it didn't even matter
(the colors mashed is making me feel ill literally)

>>7454893
That petti? No.

>>7454897
oh shit she's the girl who did like, one mediocre outfit with merry making in the ghost town and got tons of notes and now thinks she's hot shit isn't she? same one who did that terrible frozen cover

>>7454893
Oh Batty... why...

>>7454928

what frozen cover? deets

>>7454984
http://egl.livejournal.com/19598634.html

>>7454984
>>7454985
Do you want to have a sick up?
Then be sure to watch my vlog...

>>7455137
what

>>7453591
>>7453580
I hate the sailor moon shit but other than that I think this is cute. but not lolita and not cult party. a peignoir doesn't make it CPK and AP doesn't make it lolita.

>>7455137
Dumb cover lyric parody for Batty's cover of the song. Did you watch the video? Her vlog is very boring, the reviews are a joke because she can't focus more than a minute or get off her own opinion long enough to actually do the product review. I just don't like her vlog, it's a mess. I'm sure she's perfectly nice...

>>7454893
this is too bad to be in a nitpick thread

>>7453591
Ngl those ankle angel wing things are really cute

>>7454900
That's... not a classic dress. It's sweet.

>>7455220
Lots of elements in this are cute. But together, it's a train wreck.

>>7455157
> I'm sure she's perfectly nice...
LAWL no. She's a snobby bitch IRL and online. If you can't boost her e-fame you're not worth her time. The only people she keeps around who aren't being used in that way are the uggos she has as friends so that she can be "the pretty one".

>>7452880
I think part of the reason this isn't complained about more often (as it should be, because in what fashion are ill-fitting clothes acceptable?) is because such a very large number of lolitas are guilty of this. There's such a big emphasis on specific pieces and dream items that people are more wiling to jump through hoops to get a certain dress to 'fit' (zip up, basically), whereas with 'normal' fashion you'd just sigh and put it back on the the hanger. Of course it doesn't help that most things only come in one size but even then with shirring, corset lacing and waist ties the dresses are able to fit more than one size of person. Just not ALL sizes of person, and I'm not just talking about people who are obese.

I wish there was less of an emphasis on brands and prints, honestly. I think that if more people were able to sew/alter their own lolita clothes like in the beginning then we'd look so much better as a community. Prints are very pretty, sure, but if you clearly don't fit into the dress properly then it's still going to look bad. Better to have something plain but flattering than squeezing into something flashy and sought-after, IMO.

>>7454900
That dress was sweet to start with. Not that that makes her outfit less shitty, of course.

>>7455546
actually I think it's more along the lines of we're growing up in a 'ready-to-wear' society full of stretchy knits or fabrics that have a lot of give. I don't think half the younger lolitas I've met even understand the term 'wearing ease' when talking about the fit of a garment (and measuring those garments to sell). The days of bespoke and tailoring are dying out, and with it is the knowledge of certain aspects regarding making and wearing clothing. Just a thought. Along the same lines of people not actually knowing what 'good quality' even is in terms of materials. Girl's hear 'polyester' and think it must be cheap, not realizing that all types of materials come in different grades of quality. I mean, these are the kinds of people that think 20 dollar a yard cotton must be out of this fucking world super high quality stuff.

>>7455496
Her friends must be pretty fucking ugly, 'cause Batty isn't a looker.

>>7455554
I suppose. Still, I feel like I'm noticing more lolitas in ill-fitting clothing than women in regular clothes, even when it comes to less forgiving items like cotton blouses. In mainstream fashion people of course still wear clothes that don't fit 100% because most people don't have the time and money (or don't care enough) to get everything altered or tailor-made for them but they're more likely to go for something slightly too big than something too small or too short. Boobloaf is something I've only ever encountered in lolita, even though mainstream dresses are also usually cut for smaller busts. It really does seem to me that wearing ill-fitting clothes is much more common and acceptable in lolita than anywhere else.

The last time I pointed out that someone clearly did not fit into her dress properly I was accused of being jelly of her sought-after print. I don't care about prints, but apparently owning something popular is more important than fitting into it.

>>7455585
I think she's pretty cute. Insufferable, but nice to look at provided you don't care about her bad coords.

>>7455592
Lolita costs a lot more than regular clothes, usually. Which is why girls will try and force their tits in their burando.

>>7452929
Thanks!
I'm actually working on making my own stuff. It's easier to deal with the frustration of fitting yourself than the disappointment of ordering something that doesn't fit.

I would nitpick the entirety of fake_choco. Her outfit ideas are cute but she is way too tiny for all of them that they just hang on her. Such a shame she doesn't tailor her dresses to fit.

>>7455592
Boobloaf isn't really about a too small bodices as it is about the default pattern allowance for a cup size, which isn't something a majority of people can control . you can be under the bust measurent of a dress and still have boobloaf because of the pattern itself.

>>7455594
Sure if Churro Monkeys are your type of girl...

>>7455600
I don't know what's cute about boring outfits with colours that don't even match most of the time. She may be in all brand, but that shit is ita.

I actually think the too-small girls in lolita is cute. I like how the length sits, not so much the baggyness of the rest of it though.

>>7455592
You're comparing main stream normalfag clothes that come in a huge range of sizes to dresses made in usually one size with some shirring or lacing to accommodate a small range of bigger or smaller. Of course main stream stuff is going to fit more people better than a lolita dress...

>>7453670
I love you.

>>7455619
The difference is that girls will give up on mainstream shit that don't fit where as they squeeze into lolita like it's their job. Some people just can't cope with the fact that things aren't made to fit them.

>>7455592
You have no idea how hard it is to not fit into brand...
I sadly won't be able to prevent a boobloaf most of the time.
I have a 32F Cup. Most normal clothing doesn't even fit me right, because if it fits my bust it looks unflattering on me and when it fits nicely around the waist it's really squishing my boobs.
And my boobs aren't even THAT big compared to the rest of my body, there's girls who got it even worse.
Boobs are great, unless you want to be cute and rori.

>>7455645
I wear a 32H and I fit into brand. Granted, not all brand but as long as it has half-shirring I'm good. You must really be doing it wrong or have a really unfortunate body type.

>>7455645
This.
Your measurements could be all there, but if you're over a B cup you're fucked.

>>7455653
I see that you most likely have boobloaf.
Fitting =/= flattering.

>>7455657
Nah, most of the time I wear a mild binder anyway so boobloaf is non-existant.

>>7455653
This:
>>7455657
And it also depends on the shape of your boobs.

>>7455658
A binder kinda produces a boobloaf.
I'd love to see a pic of you in brand.

>>7455607
True. And it looks bad.

>>7455632
This, exactly. I actually don't fit into a lot of mainstream clothes because of the way I am proportioned, with wide shoulders but a small rib cage and a rather large waist-hip difference. I've never been able to find jeans or a blouse that truly fits, which is why I make things myself. The thing is that most people when they try out something in a regular store only to find out it doesn't fit just don't buy the item, whereas lolitas will force themselves into a dress intended for someone with a completely different body type because they like the print. Most OPs sit strangely on me because of my shoulders, which is why I don't wear OPs. Girls with large busts can try skirts with custom blouses or something. We just have to accept that some things were not meant for us.

>>7455703
>We just have to accept that some things were not meant for us.
I'm an adult and I don't have to accept nothing.

>>7455670
Another binder user here. My binder actually eliminates all boobloaf as well.

>>7455722
What binder do you use? I really don't know where to start when it comes to them. Would it bind a 34J?

I'm sure this is kind of unrelated, but is there any good beginner websites that you guys to direct me towards? I want to look more into lolita fashion but I'm terrified of being an ita. Thanks~

>>7455730
I got mine from Underworks. They come in different sizes, so you should measure your bust all the way around and check out their website.

>>7455727
Hellolace is pretty nice and has a lot of information about what makes a lolita outfit good/ita and where to buy what. Fyeahlolita is a blog with a lot of informative posts for beginners.
Mostly just lurk around a lot. Unfortunately the online lolita community has become rather decentralized over the years, so there isn't really one website for me to point to. We used to all hang around the egl comm on LJ but that is dying out.

>>7455722
Again, pic please?

>>7455757
Just took this one yesterday. I'm a bit on the chubby side, sorry. :T

>>7455761
What's your bra size?
Honestly, I couldn't tell if you were chubby because of boob cause you said you had a bigger cup size.
If you hadn't mentioned it, I'd think you'd be flat chested and chubby.
Can't tell if that's because of the binder.

Anyhow, it's not that flattering. It doesn't look horrible, but it doesn't fit well at the bust either.

>>7455803
I was the anon from >>7455722 actually so I didn't mention my cup size. I wear a 42D. 104cm bust when binding.

I'm on the weight loss train, though. Trying to get below a 98cm bust so I can fit into even more brand. My waist actually doesn't cause that many problems.

>>7455808
42D?

>>7455730
another binder user, I use underworks 997. I picked my size by taking my full bust plus my underbust and dividing by 2. I read that's how to get the size at least. So I got a Medium. It is... interesting? Because it pulls your tits down, but that was really weird feeling for me, so I scoop them back up, which still creates a 'loaf' but it does make blouse gaping and bodices fit much better and sit lower on my torso. Do not get the full torso model, it will bunch around your waist, I'm going to have to either buy the shorter one or alter mine, because the wrinkles will show through on any full bodice jsk I wear.

Yeah, I realized it was a dumb move basically as soon as I put it on because it's made for a male body, no room to accommodate hips so it just rides up, not sure why I didn't put that together before ordering

>>7455808
if you are actually a 42D by modern sizing that is why a binder helps you so much. It's only a 4 inch difference between full and underbust, so you only have 2 inch to squish before you hit the default 'room allowance' in the pattern of 2 inches. I have a 7 inch difference between full bust and underbust (37/30) and my binder does not completely eliminate boobloaf, but it does help, especially with blouse buttons

>>7455761
it may eliminate the boobloaf, but it obviously don't not fit you. you can see that from the horizontal lines in the front. There is no ease at all.
I think your blouse doesn't fit either. looks a bit small in the shoulders

>>7455761
I would stay away from cap sleeves like whoa

>>7455809
That's the bra size I wear, yeah. I've never been professionally fitted so I don't know if that's what I SHOULD be wearing, but my bras fit so whatever.

>>7455812
Aw, seriously? I have the shorter tri-top model and it rides up too. I was pondering getting a longer model but now I'm not sure.

Ah well, I'll just keep wearing my shapewear over my binder to keep it from riding up.

>>7455816
>>7455818
The blouse sleeves are normal and not cap sleeves; I just forgot to adjust them before snapping the picture. It fits fine, honest.

>>7455820
yes, it rides up and is really bad looking under anything not empire waisted because the fabric is so stiff. That's disappointed to hear that the short one does that as well.

Though I can almost deal with having to yank it down every time I stand up because it's so much more comfortable than wearing a sports bra for 4+ hours, wow, I was so happy with that part. Oh and does yours gape in the armpit? that really irritated me about mine

I guess this counts as a nitpick. Does anyone else get annoyed when people go on about their super original print ideas? I feel bad, I'm not trying to stop anyones fun but it totally irks me. Usually because they are really bad. AP is not going to make a sushi print and I think a print with realistic beagles chihuahuas would be stupid, the designers aren't making stuff like that for a reason

>>7455816
The horizontal lines you're talking about may be the seams of my shapewear, which I wear over my binder. It sucks that they're visible, but I'll probably have to deal with them. I hate my boobs too much to go without my binder.

I promise I'm not one of those chubby Lolitas who pushes the limits of her brand. If something does not fit me easily and comfortably, I will not wear it until it does. That's why Toy Parade is still sitting in my closet.

>>7455823
YES IT DOES. I don't really know what to do about it, either.

>>7455817
I have an 11 inch difference, so yeah, sucks.

>>7455820
>That's the bra size I wear, yeah.
That would mean your underbust is about 37 inches, you couldn't fit into any brand like that.
Honestly, I thought it was a typo. Or are you from some country that uses different measurements, as in 42 means 38?

>>7455833
I'm from the United States. I fit just fine into back shirred brand 98% of the time, be it dresses or blouses.

>>7455592
I'm more into mori-girl stuff and just starting towards lolita, so correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it possible to contact the designer and ask for fabric samples for cheaper in that print that one could either use to tailor the dress or shirt to fit correctly, while still having the correct fabric? It will probably cost a bit more, but if one's spending that much, why not just pay another $100 for it to fit correctly and look nice?

Now I may be totally wrong, and designers may not do this for printed items, but I would think that it's at least worth a try. It's like people who don't get their expensive shoes stretched so they actually comfortably fit their feet.

It's just an idea.

>>7455832
damn, oh well, at least it's comfortable and helps with the bust, worth 30 bucks imo and shipped in like 4 days to me.

>>7455824
I think a sushi print, if pulled off well, could be cute for wa lolita. Waloli done right is so hard to find, though...

>>7455860
coming soon from ETC...

>>7455839
But you're the one that posted the pic, right? It looks like a tight fit.
And that's what I'm doomed to, also.

>>7455860
I think this is a bad idea, like just trying to lump everything "Japan" together

>>7455931
It's actually not tight! I fit very easily and comfortably into it and there's lots of shirring to spare. I guess it just looks odd on me idk. Figures.

It should look better on me as I drop the pounds. We shall see.

Sorry for derailing the thread with my photo, everyone.

>>7455952
this is a nit pick thread. it is on topic.

>>7455952
Maybe it's just the wrong shape for you. It just doesn't look that flattering.
And yes, this is nitpicking, it's not horrible or anything.

>>7455988
That's good to know. I'm always open to kind criticism. Thanks for your honesty, anons.

>socks
>shoes
>hair

>>7455761
Anon, if you don't mind me asking, where'd you get your wig?

>>7456060
It's a Gothic Lolita wigs split wig! I think the colors are caramel and chocolate. I got it on clearance before they got their new website, and I don't think it's available anymore. :( Sorry anon.

>>7456051
I feel like an idiot and a half for asking this, but what's the name of that dress?

>>7456051
> poor posture
> comfy looking but inappropriate shoes that make the legs stumpy
> push those glasses up girl
> lack of eye makeup to offset long fringe
> lack of accessories
> limp hair
> socks need to be higher or below the knee

>>7456051
Isn't that the creator of They Bleed Pixels?

>>7456087

Nah, that's Christine Love. She worked on Analogue: A Hate Story and Hate Plus.

>>7452478

>>7456099

>>7456108
What is there really that you can nitpick with this? The sleeves of the blouse if you're really pushing it? It's a good coordinate.

>>7454893
Didn't she used to trip here as ToraTora?

>>7456099
> not lolita
>>7456108
> too much photoshop
> possibly questionable blouse

>>7456116
Not the OP but look at the shoes

>>7456130
the shoes are fine. nothing wrong with a bit of bling.

>>7455952
My Wonder Party did this to me, and there was at least 12cm of spare shirring. I think it's really just what happens on a larger frame/bust when there's front decoration like that. It gets warped a little. Even if the dress is extremely roomy. Larger busts and wider figures end up distorting the intended shape, even if the brand has allowed stretch with the intent to fit different shapes and sizes. (one size fits most business model) I mean ultimately, the only way to get something that fits 100% perfectly is to get everything custom-made. And I think that takes a lot of fun out of the fashion since collecting and obtaining pieces you really like is one of the biggest draws to this, other than looking fancy.

>inb4 lose weight
If you've got a wider frame and a genetically pre-disposed to carrying more breast tissue (fat aside) weight loss can only go so far. The best bet is corsetry and breast reduction surgery.

I'm fucked. I have relatives in the 100-110lb range, and even my mom when she was very ill in the 90lb range still looked wide and busty.

>tfw: You'll never be a tiny dainty lolita-chan.

>>7456261

I feel you, Anon.

>mfw no Classic Lolita brands will ever fit my boobs
>mfw even the IW JSKs give me boobloafs
>mfw I am too heartbroken to admit it, nd still keep them

Maybe I should post ics for cgl to rate too, so I could finally decide if I should keep them or not...?

>>7456061
Ah, that's unfortunate. It's really cute, thanks anyways, anon! <3

>>7455824
Yes. Almost all the prints that people come up with in print threads are awful, stupid shit that have no place in lolita. I think the only good ideas I've ever seen in those was the mushroom and variety flower prints and they'd only work as IW style storybook-looking prints.

Stuff like jellyfish only barely works and but is still tacky as shit imo.

>>7455842
Maybe some indie brands, but certainly not japanese ones.

>>7456276
Same anon you replied to. I use an underbust corset and I have good results with IW (34DD currently). It's not a perfect solution, but it prevents the boobloaf look. Anything you can do to push the girls up and elongate your torso will help. It also helps when dresses don't have detailing on the princess seams and you pose in pictures with a 3/4 angle so that it's not obvious that the front panel is too narrow. The dresses I do have from IW that have bust seam detailing I usually end up wearing a bolero with 80% of the time. The other 20% I'm just like fuck it I like this dress and it went on sale. No way am I getting what I paid for it, not selling anytime soon.

>>7456070
It looks like Sweet Jewelery Princess to me?

>Sweet Jewelery Princess with what appears to be Toms
>Gurl no

>>7455839
i, for one, thought the dress looked perfectly fine on you. i didn't see shapewear lines or anything! you look adorable in it :3 i do find your bra size really odd for the fact you fit into brand, other anon was right that that would imply you were 42" around your underbust. i highly suspect you're wearing a giant band size and a way-too-small cup size - i recommend getting fit at a store like intimacy, or some other store/website that carries euro sizes, can help a lot with fit, or do home try ons in lots of sizes. if i had to guess, i'd say you were closer to an E cup with 34" band or smth. anyway, i'm no expert or anything, just a giant bust anon who has lots of experience with ill-fitting bras and has learned what's up

>>7456121
No. She doesn't trip on here.

>>7455761
Pix-posting Anon, when you self-post to a NITPICK thread, you are going to hear opinions with no sugar coating, not concrit. If they are harsh, don't argue, just take it under advisement. This isn't your the Lolita improvement thread.
I post what I see wrong with all the pix here. You disputing it doesn't make any difference at all.

>>7455816
I agree with this. I do see your shape wear lines because they make you look lumpy in 2 places above the waist. But the horizontal lines near the bows aren't shape wear lines and they mean it's just too tight. Also, the waist sits too high and the straps are splayed wide, other clues it's too small for you.
Last observation: an iron and a can of starch would be a good friends to make.
Don't post things here that you aren't ready to see picked apart with no excuses, no mercy and no fucks given.

>>7457157
someone asked her for a picture of her in her binder, she didn't just self post. And I think she didn't really give a shit about the comments? She certainly didn't get into a hissy fit from what I was reading.

>>7456531
>>7455824
I get the *eyerolls* at so many original print threads, so much shit on Spoonflower and think the lolita brands (and even Bodyline) who hold print contests must lol and be shaking their heads at most of the designs submitted.
So many of these don't even fit a substyle or use colors that could be coordinate with brand accessories, the prints on the skirts are wonky in scale and the JSK and OP have very unflattering bodices usually, unless it's just a stone-copy of a burando dress.

>>7455823
>>7455820

i was looking around their website some more and found this one: http://www.underworks.com/men/compression-bodysuits/ultimate-chest-binder-tanksuit

looks good to me...there were two others, one that sits around the hips and one that goes down to the knees, but they're not as strong of a compression. I'm considering giving this one a try, though!

>>7457169
She didn't throw a hissy but she got a bit too defensive for a nitpick thread. Idgas if she was asked to post, pix in a nitpick thread get nitpicked.

>>7457424
lol, you're a trip

>>7456108
This girl gets on my nerves too (pretty sure she used to selfpost her awful ~dark cult party~ outfits here) but I don't really see much wrong with this. She seems to be improving.

>>7456122
>possibly questionable blouse
Wow, that really is nitpicking. It's really hard to tell from the photo. That said, it looks like it's HMHM's black blouse from the cuffs, and the silver would match the shoes.

If I had to nitpick, it'd be at the waist. The bodice should either be higher or she should go for a bell shape. Her waist just looks a weird kind of low right now.

Otherwise, very pretty.

>>7457105
Thank you, kind anon. I've been meaning to get professionally measured for a while because I'd love to wear the right size bra. It's definitely on my to-do list.

>>7457424
Offering possible explanations for horizontal lines in bodice and saying that I only wear clothes that fit me equals getting defensive, I suppose.

I said it in an above comment, but I really am always open to kind criticism. I definitely don't ever want anything to be sugarcoated (I especially hate when people go "OHH you're not FAT!!" because uh yeah I am and I'm not going to deny it). I want to have beautiful coords, so if someone wants to tell me-- politely-- how I can improve, I will listen and take note. I want to improve and keep on improving no matter what.

I'm really sorry if I came off as defensive in my earlier comments. I really didn't mean to at all.

>>7457424
>she got a bit too defensive
>being this mad about it

Do go on...

>>7456108
Pretty and well put together, but I'd personally get a stronger petti to fill out the silhouette, and choose more lolita appropriate shoes, if not closed toe. I'm actually really liking the maxi headdress and lack of color here for once, but tjmo.

>>7457992
Nitpick thread starter here:
I started them to get the 'objectionable but not ita' things off the ita thread. Too many arguments about it not being bad enough to be ita but bad enough for a comment.
This isn't a kind and polite concrit thread, it's a nitpick thread. It's for dubious shit that isn't quite ita but still has some questionable-looking element. Don't get me wrong, your pic belongs here due to fit, etc.
But it's not a concrit or advice thread, it's more a venting thread to post frankly about what's wrong with an outfit as an example of what not to do.

Self posting (for any reason) and then coming in to defend or 'explain' something will usually result in a 'gtfo, not a concrit thread', and I hope it always remains that way.

>>7458372
Expecting me to not respond to comments at all, be they kind or unkind, is pretty unreasonable...

I was asked to post a picture as part of a binder discussion, but I'll refrain from doing so in the future, even if it may help someone. I'm sorry for going against the rules of the thread.

>>7458387
There are concrit threads and 'request it worn' threads here and gracious plenty other threads in other places to post your help examples where you won't have to fend off nitpicks. Perhaps in the future one of those would better benefit from your help.

Now let's return to posting some pix for the purpose of nitpicking, shall we?

>>7458387
it's ok, anon. maybe we should start a binder thread? after all it pertains to both cosplayers and lolitas!

>>7458415
That would be a very useful thread.

>>7456261
I feel that, anon. I'm 97 pounds and I have no waist, just a wide, shallow rib cage and hips.

She actually looks better here than usual too.

>>7463845
What's going on with those socks anyway?
They look all bunchie and lumpy.

>>7463851
It's lace.

>>7463850
That poor IW dress. Gurl looks like a Morticia wannabe rolled around in burando and Hot Topic and that was the end result.

>>7463867
Dresses don't have feelings, jellyfat-tan.

>>7453591
Where is this bag from?

>>7463867
Dude as far as I know she's not even a lolita she was just borrowing a dress to be cute and semi match while she helped out her friend at the con.

>>7463887
Then whoever dressed her should have helped her more. We nitpick questionable looks here.

>>7452566
You should of seen what they wore later...

>>7463882
Search for Evil Live on Facebook. They're a Korean brand that specialises in lolita bags.

What is Boob loaf? What does it look like?

>>7463960
A bad boobloaf with side boob.

>>7463874

Butt-hurt much?

>>7463960
Boob loaf. It happens when your boobs take up too much of the bodice of a dress and you get a big rectangle loaf looking monoboob.
Sorry to add to the boob loaf discussion but I've found binding sometimes adds to this issue, instead of lifting and keeping the boobs seperate they just look sort of smushed down and still loaf-y.

>>7463971
Binding isn't going to work unless is smooths and compresses things fairly flat. This goes for both boob and sideboob. It's good for C cup and smaller but bigger girls do better with a minimizer bra with cups and then additional shape wear to smooth things on the sides and below the bra line. I'm a B and a binder compresses me pretty flat so any monoboob is a small enough curve that it doesn't look loafy.

>>7455722
Example of binder actually not eliminating boobloaf despite claims to the contrary. And not eliminating many of the other problems of an ill-fitting dress.

>>7463845
Now listen, I'm usually the first to jump on her when she looks like shit, but I honestly don't see what's wrong with this outfit?
>>7463850
Her friend looks like shit though. It's not the blouse or dress, those are fine, it's mainly that makeup/hair/fishnet tights/shoes combo. She looks like a bad mall goth that accidentally rolled into someones lolita closet... which is... exactly the situation.

>>7464015
Are you color blind ? The headdress is red even thought the dress is blackXpink, and those randomly placed big roses clashes a lot. Usakumiya is way too white too, and too sweet, despite the obvious hime feel of this 'outfit'.
You need to lurk more.

>>7464026
Dat hostility. I see it now, but there was no need to be a cuntmonster about it. I guess I just set the bar really low for her, if she's not in raver gear or looking like she smells bad/swam in a vat of bacon grease I count it as an ok day for her.

>>7464030
I'm not especially hostile, just really surprised someone could see this outfit as passable. To me, it even belong to the ita thread.

>>7455820
Anon I wear a 38DD/DDD and am quite bigger than you, I think you're wearing too-big bras.

>>7456276
Different Anon but same problem... is this boob loaf?
Blouse is ill fitting a bumpy but was worn for effect

>>7464196
of course dropped photo.

>>7464198
I don't think so. There's no sideboob and the seams of the dress all seem to be where they should be, and the waist is sitting where it should be, too. I think that's just the cut of the bodice and I feel like in a picture of the same dress from more of a side angle or of the wearer sitting down, it'd be obvious the dress fit right.

>>7464198
It does look a bit uncomfortable but IW does that to anyone who isn't completely flat or several inches smaller than the measurements of the dress. It's not nearly as bad as the ones posted so far and the dress looks more or less like it's supposed to.

>>7464196
I don't see sideboob and everything looks smooth. That print mismatched at the bodice seams would put me off the dress though, fwiw.

I just found this on tumblr, and it just feels wrong...

>>7464849
the socks maybe?

>>7464849
The chiffon on the hat should be gathered tighter and trimmed better for a start. The overskirt also looks unhemmed and poorly proportioned because of the width of the print underneath. She should either have made it the same length as the skirt and had it cover all the way across the front like an apron, or left it off. The socks wouldn't be so bad if they were a matching shade of pink, but they have a much warmer undertone than the pink in the dress. On top of that, the blouse is the only white in the entire coordinate and, because they shot on a white backdrop, this makes her arms vanish.

>ill fitting
>completely mismatched shoes
>blouse under OP
>tights
>petti (or lack thereof)
>fix that fucking headbow

Also, wtf is that yellow thing?

>>7465593
Plus:
Boobloaf.
The boobs also look very low.
Wig pulled too far down on forehead
Dress needs ironing

>>7465593
I think blouses under OPs can be cute (though this particular blouse isn't suited to that style), but I agree with you on every other point. Those random rings are shitting me.

>>7465593
Those random ass accessories and that sad face and bad lighting...

OP here.
Yes. All of these things.
It's the little things that shit me most.

>>7456261
>I think it's really just what happens on a larger frame/bust when there's front decoration like that. It gets warped a little
Different anon, I agree with this though. I have a custom sized shirred jsk from F+F and it likes to bunch in under my boobs or along the seams of anything I wear underneath, despite the fact that its almost loose on me. I've actually started wearing a corset underneath just to have that smooth straight front line. I'm not particularly a fatty chan either, its custom sized because my torso is so fucking long. If its not lined and doesn't have much structure to the front, particularly coupled with shirring in the back, it will show anything thats underneath and get pulled into any curve in your figure.

>>7465762
I think this is what people mean when they say that the basic designs of some Lolita clothing, like partially shirred bodices, aren't going to look good on everyone or every set of proportions, especially curvy or busty, even if the bodices aren't tight.
Kind of like gals with a big difference in hip and waist measure have much more trouble getting a decent fit with most jean styles.

>>7465762
>>7465782
about the large bust/front decoration thing, this is the same issue I run into with the milky planet re-release op. I'm a busty-chan with a short torso and I have to wear a specific kind of minimizer to reduce boobloaf as much as possible and it's still hard to get the front of the bodice to look ok.
at least I've lost a little weight since I took this picture.

>>7465807
It still looks like your bust is 'taking it up' in the bodice top to bottom so the dress waistline is sitting several inches above your natural waist.

>>7465824
on people who don't have weird proportions like me that would be the case, but my torso is super short so it's actually sitting only slightly above my natural waist. I have an unfortunate body shape.

>>7465807
Yeah that doesn't really fit. Not as bad as most other pics ITT but still awkward.

>>7465845
It's common in Lolita though, so common that when people say things about fit, flattering your body proportions, dressing for your size (and bust size) or other regular fashion fit tips people should already follow in their regular wardrobe, they are largely ignored or even argued with.
I've never seen so many people wearing so many ill-fitting garments in my life.

The worst part is if the dresses and JSK (or god help us, salopettes) are slightly 'young' pastels and prints to begin with then the 'little girl outgrowing her clothes' feeling is intensified. Which causes an odd dynamic when it's boobs straining the fit.

>>7465845
>>7465860
like I said, slowly losing some weight since I took that pic (it was taken closer to the holidays) so hopefully next time I wear it it won't look as awkward. I always worry about stuff not flattering me and like I said try to take steps to avoid massive boobloaf and other fit issues as best I can. it would be nice if more people invested in stuff like shapewear and minimizers.

>>7465860
god i am so sick of bigger girls wearing salopettes, salos on not-small girls will never not look like ageplay to me. if you don't have a smallish frame and small to medium sized boobs and hips, salos will always, always look weird on you. guaranteed.

there's a girl in my comm who is dead set on buying this super unflattering salopette because it's "cheaper" than the jsk or the op, and just thinks she can alter it with waist ties to fit, when in reality she just needs to just bite the bullet and get the jsk because she has a huge frame and a big ribcage and the face of a soccer mom. she drives me crazy because no matter how much constructive criticism or feedback i give her when she asks she just ignores it and does whatever she thinks will work best for her when i am 100% certain it will just end up looking like trash later. some people just don't learn to dress themselves.

>>7465865
I applaud your efforts, no mistake but this is the nitpick thread so people will feel free to call things as they see them and be up front in these matters.
I second your thoughts about shape wear and that goes for regular fashion wear that isn't just jeans and T's as well. It looks much better with at least some smoothing, usually.

I look at the mannequin and the models wearing the dress in the advert and I can tell which will come short on me like that, knowing my body, long waist, pretty flat bust, then bind in addition.

OP will sit too high on me very often so I skip them and get a lot of skirts or get the JSK and lengthen the straps or make new straps with the excess fabric from waist ties. That lowers the midline to my actual waist. Even 2 inches makes a pretty evident difference. I'm taller too so it adds length to AP shorter dresses, added bonus.

>>7465870
If it isn't too short, she could get the salo and set the skirt on a waistband. But yep, anything over about 5'2 and a B cup with small band looks less than ideal in them. Find a way to show her PT in marshmallow bunny salo...It's for her own good.

>>7465807
Here is a good test. Put your hands like this in a natural gesture 'hands on your hips'. (Really smallest part of the waist but that's what we call it...
They should hit right at the dress waist unless the dress is an empire or high-waisted cut.

>>7465807
i think this looks super cute on you, actually...it looks like it fits, to me. i like it when girls wear lolita dresses and you can tell they have boobs. i don't think it distorts the pattern if you have curves...i think it looks more odd if someone looks perfectly flat in their lolita clothes, really. you said you had a short torso, i do too - my waist is about 3" below my bust line. i can tell that this is actually hitting you around your natural waist, maybe just a couple centimeters high. if you've lost weight since this pic, it probably fits you even better now. but this is seriously nowhere near the level of like, the boobloaves posted above, and it doesn't look like you've jammed yourself into it.

>>7465838
isn't a short torso/long limbs (I presume) a desirable feature though ?

>>7452566
Please tell me that I'm not the only one who thought the lack of neck and dat leg angle were awkward as hell?

>>7465945
i'm actually more distracted by the fact the girl on the right is SO plain

so plain it's distracting...

>>7465947
Her legs are doing weird things too. They are supposedly posing for a photo though, this isn't a candid. So it's on purpose. They look awkward and terrible.

>>7465945
The neck think is bad posture, she's got her neck forward and down/out. I know because I do it too, it's a bad habit and am trying to train my posture better. This is a good reminder!
But yep, it looks horrid.
Idk about the leg thing, that just looks like she thought it would be kawaii maybe? It's not.

>>7465881
I cant find it.. where is PT in marshmallow bunny?

>>7465977

>>7465907
normally I like pixie_late's coordinates but this one is a total misfire. there are like three different shades of pink in this outfit for no damn reason. also those random taupe/offwhite tights? the messy hairstyle + mismatched faux-hair bow isn't doing anything for me, either. what the fuck, pixie, what happened?
on the upside, good job anon for finding a thread-relevant example for your post.

>>7465988
Yeah, I'm not crazy about the coord either but it had the print if not the specific dress and the pose that illustrates very clearly how most of these regular OP and JSK are NOT intended to be babydoll, empire waist or other types of high waisted dresses. No matter the length of the torso. It's just as often not tied to a weight issue either, busty and long torso girls have the issue too...regardless of weight.

Would /cgl/ nitpick my coords? I feel like they are always close but I'm missing something.

>>7466072
I feel like its hard to tell when youre putting a coord together, but once you look at an image of yourself its like 'dammit my bag didnt match' or 'those tights are too busy I guess'
feel free to post, new content is always welcome.

>>7466072
If you post them here, you should agree to just take the nit pick and no...'butbutbut....' afterwards about it. Otherwise the concrit thread is better. Nitpicks are meant to be the unvarnished truth without tact and often will be opinionated rather than fair. They are criticism, not critique.

>>7465981
holy wow

i will never look at a salopette again

>>7466283
That is why the nitpick thread is good. To prevent this. Go forth, my child, a better but temporarily traumatized person, haha! Everyone's style benefits from seeing these, I think.

>>7465907
the bodice looks really odd and wrinkly on her, did she not tighten the corset lacing enough? it looks baggy.

>>7466361
Yep, it looks that way to me too. But then it looks odd from the back if the lacing is cranked down as tight as it will go too.

>>7466361
exactly what i was thinking actually! it looks a little bit too big for her actually.

>>7465981
Or you know she could just bind her boobs, wear a cardigan, tights, and actually accessorize with a wig and other things.

I hate when people use this picture of PT because she so blatantly ruins it. Of course it's tough to argue against the fit of a certain type of dress when the example person wearing it already doesn't dress for her body type at all.

>>7466368
actually actually actually

whoops

>>7466370
her bust is just way too wide for that salopette, anon...even if she used a binder and put on a cardi/bolero, it would be really obvious that the center panel of the salo is way too many inches too narrow for her rib cage width.

>>7466413
>her bust is just way too wide for that salopette
Wear a cardigan, cape, or bolero that hides the fit of the dress.
>fattie secrets 101

>>7466417
>cape
She's an ita not a Wizard
It would take magic to make that thing look good on her
That salo is so much too small for her there's no fixing it or disguising it. It's sitting up high as well as being way too narrow for her body.
No feat of engineering is going to succeed

>>7465593
>>7465608
>>7465693
>>7465698
You forgot to mention the posture.

>>7465981
pic related

Styling...
It can make or break you.

Styling...details...context
They can make or break your look.

>>7468386
I'm not going to nitpick on the right one, because there is too much work.
Left one is really nice, except the colour of the head bow. The shade of pink isn't right.

not sure if nitpick or just ita

>>7468395
I would say ita.
The red doesn't incorporate well
The striped socks are too casual for the chiffon
Socks over tights looks awkward here
Magical girl necklace from out of nowhere-Bam
Ribbon on bodice is wrinkled
Wig is messy
Make up seems too intense.
That is my nitpick.
I really kind of like the shoes though just not used here.

>>7468402
Adding on this:
- The reds don't match
- Plain coloured stockings look cheap as fuck
- The bow looks like she made it out of fabric that costs $1 a yard and is terribly made (looks like cardboard?)
- Dress is about to burst
- Black underskirt/petti is poking out

Jesus, could you coordinate it any worse? It doesn't even fit her, how embarrassing.

>>7468407
I'm also getting really sick of seeing these crappy quality $25 shipped shoes that are all over eBay and Aliexpress.

>>7468395
I like it
but that yellow and red necklace needs to go

>>7468407
Have you figured out a little bit awkward time

The fit on these baby doll jumper skirts seems to be a little bit awkward much of the time.
When you get girls wearing the regular waisted jumper skirts too small and too tight so that they already ride up and sit too high, when you DO get the baby doll JSK it looks very bizarre.

Also just my personal opinion but I've always thought this dress looks like a baby doll nightgown

>>7468415
>Have you figured out a little bit awkward time

(sorry about that I'm a little bit tired and my speech to text gets wonky)

>>7468395

>>7468408
You have abysmal taste.

>>7468395
Ugly, frumpy, and that open-mouth pose makes her look like a cockthirsty slag.

>>7466499
I have the same body as PT and I can make it work.
Why? Because I actually look in the mirror and have developed taste beyond that of a 16 year old. Problem is though, I hate that fucking print.

Maybe a different salo.

>>7466417
It's still going to look really bad and obvious. Please don't wear things that so blatantly don't fit. It's embarrassing.

>>7468513
PT is obese, lies about her measurements and damages the clothes she wears just by putting them on. If you can make those things look nice then you're probably not as big as her.

Let's post some 'it doesn't fit' photos, since it's a good nitpick subject that sometimes sabotages otherwise nice coordinates. Here are 2 that have the waists sitting up too high as a result of being too small and also, boobloaf.

>>7468539
>PT is obese
She's a size 20, absolute max. Not saying that's not obese, but I know many girls who can squeeze into brand even at that size.

I'm a size 15 now, but before I lost a lot of weight I was about to grow out of my size 18s and even then I could fit a few pieces just fine.
Salos are a different story though. You need to flatten the boobs and bind more at the waist to make it not bunch up like what happened to PT. If I don't wear shapewear under some of my pieces I wind up with boobloaf so I feel her pain. I would probably use binders plus a corset.

Oh and the bitch damages her brand because she's an impatient shit who probably wants to whip those clothes on and off without any delicateness. I popped a seam on my first brand dress that way and boy did I learn to take my time.

>>7468565
Getting it on and fitting are two different animals. If it's seam-popping tight, it's just too small. If the seams strain and there are horizontal wrinkles and the shirting is fully stretched, it's too small. If it rides up and doesn't sit at your waist (hip for salos) then it's too small. If you can't raise your arms or bend over, it's too small.

>>7468572
Well anon I don't know what to say, wish I had the balls to self-post but lets just say I've submitted a few photos to blogs before and they've been reblogged a bunch of times, so I'm to assume that they were passable despite them being tight.
And I'd like to think that's due to me accessorizing accordingly and hiding the fit issues such as stretched out shirring.
But you're right though, if I attempted to use the same fashion choices as an average sized lolita I would look like shit.

>>7468550
Then, just demand that all girls over a B cup need to not buy any brand at all?

>>7468572
Horizontal wrinkles can happen if a dress is not fully stretched either. I've seen it happen when things are far too tight and the shirring is entirely stretched. Also when there is plenty of leeway in the shirring but you are busty. The only way you're going to avoid that entirely is if your cup size is small or you're close or under the minimum measurements.

Case in point. My bust is 98cm, underbust is 87cm. I wear a 34DD. I also have a short torso. So yeah things actually sit close to my natural waist, and everything I own is full back shirred, usually with extreme amounts of leeway where I'm generally at the halfway point of stretch. Everything gets horizontal wrinkles.

I don't think there's really a need to nitpick it to death. This applies to a majority of western lolitas. It's common to have a DD, F+ cup, no matter how small your band size is. Whereas in Japan, you don't often see cup sizes that large and you don't see wider frames unless they are well into the obese category.

>>7468696
>Then, just demand that all girls over a B cup need to not buy any brand at all?
Someone doesn't know how tits work.

>>7468697
well technically, when pattern making a 'B' cup is the difference between the high bust and full bust (i.e 2in). this is why you should buy patterns based on your high bust and then adjust for your full bust.

I generally assume that most RTW clothes are intended for 'B' cup ease.

and before ya'll get uppity. I wear a 30E and live and the US, where it is very tedious to get such sizes in store

>>7468565
She's officially too big for Bodyline now. If that's not obese I don't know what is.
I'm not sure if you've been keeping up with her, but she's only gotten bigger since she was queen of /cgl/.

>>7468696
>just demand that all girls over a B cup need to not buy any brand at all
Not necessarily, since both of the girls in that picture are quite chubby. Cadney in particular has been gaining a lot of weight (which I only know because it was discussed in another thread earlier, I'm not some weirdo who obsesses over these things). Isn't it common knowledge that chubby girls don't really fit into glorious burando? Cup size plays a role, but a fit girl with a C cup could still look nice in AP.

>>7468918
>She's officially too big for Bodyline now.
Even the fully shirred pieces like what's on the OP of Antique Clocks?
I doubt that anon.
Wanna know why she bitches about being too large for bodyline? Because she wants to fit the skinniest pieces and can't settle for pieces that might imply that she's fat and needs the extra room, like what shirred pieces usually indicate. But could she fit them? Fuck yeah, she's just in denial about it because she wants to fit the M/2L sizes and not the 4L.

>>7468924
Cadney though is very aware of what is fitting her or not, and so a lot of things she buys she sells soon after because it is too short on her or it doesnt fit her right and stuff. She does work it regardless of minor issues but her wardrobe isnt static. At least in this the black hides exactly how it fits.

Other girl though is the type to just squish into anything she can, and it shows.

>>7468924
>>7469431
>implying cadney ever looked good in lolita

>>7469452
peachie's face is so gross.

>>7468696
>I don't think there's really a need to nitpick it to death
Except this IS the nitpick thread, where nitpicking belongs.

>close or under the minimum measurements.
You shouldn't be wearing things at the max measurement if you expect them to fit decently. Max is usually
A. The garment measurement, so your own max should be ~2cm smaller for it to fit and
B. Wearing ease needs 2+ cm under A measure or it's too small.
So 4cm smaller than a listed max garment measurement is the real max you should be to wear something and not have it be too small.

The majority of western Lolitas need to be more careful in choosing for fit. Plus, busty, tall, longer torso. Or the clothes are simply not going to fit.

And yes, it needs to be discussed more and this is the place for it. It's not like I'm posting ill fit in the ita thread but it IS an issue. You can have an otherwise great coord but if the fit is off, it's not going to look good. You can say it doesn't matter and choose to overlook this if you wish but many of the rest of us won't.

It's not been called out much but with as much variety and choice available, it's not impossible to choose better fits for your body type.

>>7469446
lol u so jelly it hurts

>>7469493

I think the same should also be mentioned for thin girls. I don't remember which one, but either Maki or Asuka is so extremely flat chested that a lot of dresses look weird in the bust area. I remember looking at some pics of the two and she was just so incredibly small framed that the bodice just sort of hung there. There is such a thing as being too small as well.

Wasn't sure whether to put this here or ita thread, so I'll be generous.

>>7469551
It's not ita, it's not lolita either really.

It's just much too casual?

>>7469551

Too much mismatched shit.

>>7469551
She never dresses well

>>7469528
Definitely. It's more common to see bad fit in Lolita in overweight and busty girls but not exclusively by any means.
This was mentioned above in Pixi-late's pix. Discussing fit shouldn't just be a fatty-chan call out in disguise, it should be another nitpick criteria where any type of bad fit is noted.

It also applies to optimal fit for height though that is much more subjective with only 'up your thighs' or 'down your calves' being seen as a bad fit for the average lolita dress that isn't a salo or long cut respectively.

>>7469551

Her outfits annoy me. A bunch of mismatched shit all the time.

>>7469551
>>7469559

it's not tagged as lolita though, i think she just buys lolita brands but doesn't really wear it as lolita

>>7469604
If it's not called or tagged lolita, don't nitpick it here. Lots of people wear their lolita pieces coordinated into other styles. As long as they aren't doing that and calling it lolita, it's not something to nitpick as we would a lolita coordinate.

I want to like this coord, but the cream in the outfit with obviously white details on the dress annoys me to hell and back.

>>7469757
do you know the name of that dress? it's so pretty

>>7469760
lol

>>7469760

..... are you new? Lost in Sea Blue by Krad Lanrete, only that one jellyfish thing everyone has been jizzing over for the past six months now.

>>7469760
mushroom alien moonlight

>>7456051
She was at a Gaming Conference in this one. (I met her there.) Honestly, the shoes would have to be like that. Heels would not have worked there. (I didn't bring lolita to the con for a reason.) Not to mention, not all game designers are as accepting of our fashion choices, so she tried to keep it mild. She was very nice to talk to.

>>7469760
boko no portugese man o' war

>>7469914
They still make appropriate(or more appropriate atleast) flats that go with lolita. other than the dress and bonnet she looks like she's trying to cosplay someones' grandpa.

>>7469919

>>7470216
It's cute and cohesive until you get to the socks/shoes and it dies :[

>>7470212
This needs a petti but other than that, I like it.

>>7469431
And I get it. It's tough to admit that despite being able to find, afford and be under the max measurements for a very desirable dress, it simply doesn't fit well. So most girls make excuses for it and wear it anyway. But they end up looking like this...
Others see pix of them doing it and reason 'oh it must not be that bad if she's doing it, and do it too'. Ugh.

>>7470235
I hate that. The feeling is so disappointing. I don't mind the ott look of lolita and this is coming from someone who wears more "old school" styles, but I wish that lolitas who do go the ott route would balance their outfits with solid or simple patterned legwear.

Do what you will, but shit like tattooed tights (with ankle socks, if I may) with an already decked out print is pushing it.

>>7469452
Isn't Peachy rather tall? Holy poop the girl she's standing next to must be a giant!

>>7468550
can we make a 'only post dresses that fit 100+ and look good, and create a list of dresses that fit but look like shit' thread?

>>7470512
This is the nitpick thread, it's the proper place to post dresses that don't fit as one of the nitpicks or as a peeve.
Figuring out what styles of dresses fit is just like learning which colors flatter you and what foundation to wear for your skin type. Bad fit isn't enough to make a coordinate (or a girl) ita but if there's a poor fit and several other issues in a coordinate, then it certainly will get nitpicked.

>>7470509
She's 165 according to her FAQ.

>>7470512
I know this was likely meant to be ironic but there have been top tier a Lolita threads and most of the coords in them fit, the style and cut flattered the wearer's body type, the colorway flattered their skintone. Maybe we need more top-tier Lolita threads.

>>7470633
i was actually noticing when i was pulling ita and nitpick pics that i was seeing much more coords i was actually somewhat impressed by, or that at least looked like good examples of the fashion. i would love to get a praise thread going! little bit of positivity to balance out the fact we all got some sand somewhere

aughhh if your skirt's going to be this short at least make sure your petticoat isn't showing??

>>7470947
is that Alodia on the right?

tights look like they're a little too big...and those shoes really kill what is otherwise a cute outfit

>>7470954
yes, lol

protip: if your skirt is too big or long, pulling it up to right under your bust is not the solution.

>>7470973
>dat Axes Femme bag
I just want it t.t

>>7469614
lolita or not it looks like shit.

>>7470385
>>7470955
totally agreed on these, when a coord is amazing from the hem of the dress up but the leg/footwear ruins it is the absolute worst

>>7465945
That leg may be the single most awkward thing I've seen today.
The angle and position is terribad and that clunky ass heel is just enhancing the cringyness.
The photographer should told her to stop and do a different pose.

>>7471750
+1
I I look derpy as fuck in a picture please fucking tell me!

>>7468924
I think she's gained 10 pounds tops. She doesn't look that much bigger than she used to, but she's never been skinny even if she's been skinnier.

>>7469480
I've always thought that she looks a lot like Park Bom, which is never a good thing

>>7470512
Fit for 100+ bust that looks good and notorious boobloaf offenders should probably go in one of the plus threads that come up every so often unless you just wanted to make a thread for it and then compile and keep a list somewhere as a resource. It's a good idea.

>>7475502
Having big boobs and being plus sized isn't always the same thing.

>>7468550
>that sad replica bag

>>7469500
Yeah, I wish I could gain 40 lbs and look like I'm trying to do the limbo in every single photo.

>>7468409
Really? I love them.

I wish Peachie would invest in some better clothing. Even unpopular brand prints, or unprinted brand. Just something other than these shitty bodyline dresses and replicas she always wears. She also needs to ditch the stuffed toys in her pictures and kids toys.

>>7476038
too bad that people lives for themselves and not for stranger bitches on the internet.

>>7476103
this is a nitpick thread. you're acting like that comment was uncalled for. like stfu

>>7475950
Why pick a semi decent picture of her when you could have posted the disaster that was her last classic coord she posted a couple days ago? Seriously, she looks fucking terrible in it. Close up of her face looks like she's in her thirties too. On phone else I would post it myself

>>7476038
I like Peachie, and I feel like if anyone can pull off Bodyline, its her. But I agree and I also think she would really look cute in some AP, and you can tell she'd love dresses like Toy Parade or Dream Fantasy and coordinate them well. I know she doesn't have a ton of money but maybe she could save up money she'd normally spend on 2-3 Bodyline dresses and instead get 1 used AP dress or something. But whatever, it's her life.

And yeah, she needs to tone down with the ageplay-esque stuff a little. I love toys too but sometimes I feel dirty after looking at her blog, lol

she doesn't need to do anything tho, she doesn't owe to you to tone down the stuff that she likes and is passionate about, it's your job to stop looking at her blog not expect her to stop doing whatever she wants to do.
I'm not even a fan of this chick and her face is a bit funny, but she clearly enjoys her toys and being "ageplayish", and I'm just tired of /cgl/ jerking off their giant hateboner for this chick.

>>7476289
http://cadney.tumblr.com/post/81594042141/my-juliette-et-justine-coordinate-and-make-up

This one? She doesn't look ...that... terrible right?

>>7476295
>I love toys too but sometimes I feel dirty after looking at her blog, lol

anon... that really sounds like you're the one with the problem...

>>7476311
it's at least a little bit better than that pic she took with fanny rosie, imo. I think her makeup is decent in this one, but what gets me is her awkward bodyline-chan way of smiling...

>>7476333
omg it wasn't so bad in the preview but full size is a giant NOPE

>>7476038
>>7476295
I posted this is another thread, but I think it's relevant here, too:

I feel like I understand Peachie's situation. She says she doesn't feel the need for brand because she's satisfied with the things bodyline puts out, but I think it's more to do with she's addicted to having quantity over quality.

I was in the same situation until I forced myself to stop wearing shitty BL and replicas, and practically forced myself to purchase a brand dress to break out of the habit. It sounds ridiculous, I know. But my wardrobe was getting to the point where it was in it's 30+'s of bodyline and replica OPs, JSKs and skirts. I'd never witnessed brand in person before, and as soon as I got the parcel open, I could see why people preferred brand to bodyline and replicas.

If Peachie invested in brand, it'd probably break her habit of buying shit. Also, she lives off of ESA (Employment support allowance) money which is about £100 a week, so it'd take her a lot longer to save up for brand than it does for her to buy cheap plastic toys and shit from ebay. I also assume she pays for her own living expenses, but I wouldn't be surprised if her boyfriend or parents help her out with that.

tldr: Peachie's wardrobe is probably due to her budget, lack of patience and bad habit for wanting quantity over quality.

>>7475924
Then option 2? Though more plus girls are going to have this info than just busty girls because more ARE plus sized than not at that measurement. Technically the larger bust sizes will push you into wearing plus-friendly styles (lacing pulled in at the waist) for lolita even though no one actually agrees on what plus size is. I was trying to think where to post it so it would get the most contributions as a resource, not trying to exile busty girls to the plus thread.

>>7476038
I think her dresses and toys suit her very well. I've always thought she was a little creepy and age-play oriented though. She's not overt about it but it's definitely present.

>>7476438
Maybe she had a shit childhood and she's still trying to cling onto it?

>>7469528
84cm bust and confirming this, Mary Magdalene of all things is slightly large on me because I don't fill in the bust enough (waist fits perfectly). I wear a +1 cup bra to remedy this, but it looks really loose in the top without.

>>7469919
I love this print but that name is too good to pass up. Thank you, anon.

>>7476441
I wouldn't doubt it. Every time I see her pictures, I expect a 5 year old to be living in her room and not a 23 year old. Something is up with her.

>>7476333
I was just going to post this. When I saw this on Tumblr a big, wtf came out. Too much like that Bodyline model with that horrible smile indeed.

>>7475950
I don't get why you're posting photos of her that are years and years old. She's in my local comm and she sold this dress to a friend of mine 2 or 3 years ago.

This girl is always wearing these damn socks.

I want to just take these glasses off her stupid manface and throw them on the ground and stomp them until they break. UGH.

>>7468395
Her idea was somewhat creative but I'd only mix cosplay and lolita for a con or halloween. I can definitely see she was going for a sailor moon theme but she could have done MUCH better. She should have focused more so on coordinating the dress with whites and blues. Then very subtly incorporated golds and reds to stick with her sailor moon theme This is what I would do:
>replace the shoes with navy tea parties (or something or the sort) and add a mini red bow in the middle. Then add mini gold moon and/or pendants in the middle of the red bows.
>Replace the socks and tights with white ankle socks.
>Add white wristcuffs with gold detailing
>White blouse with big ribbon
>Clip a HIGH QUALITY sailor moon brooch (preferably a smaller sized one) in the middle of blouse's ribbon
>Misty sky head bow
>Gold moon or star clip in hair
>Red nails and red lipstick

>>7476307
>>7476315
>>7476103
>whiteknighting this hard in a nitpick thread