/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I'm tempted to get a replica bag.
Help me resist replica-chan's sweet whispers.

>>7469690

>>7469917
What's holding you back? Just go for it. They're much cheaper, I'm sure...

>>7469917
Replica bags and shoes are things that are generally more accepted than say, print dress replicas because the brand ones are fairly shitty quality for the price.
They're sort of wardrobe-padding. You get your cheap replica bags for everyday use and abuse and save the burando for when it matters.

>>7469917
There's nothing wrong with buying a replica brand bag imo. The original bags are just as shitty anyway.

>>7469917

I started loli by getting ebay and then taobao replicas, including bags and shoes. After I got brand bags, I stopped buying replicas, because the quality difference is really obvious. Next to brand, my replicas have problems like the leather peeling, glue marks, and kind of have a hot glued-ed home crafts look to them. The brand stuff always looks more polished and lasts longer.

I guess if you just want to use it once then throw it out/sell it off then it's okay, or if you're just starting out, you wouldn't notice the difference yet. But if you already own brand, going backwards to replica is not a good move.

>>7469917
I feel you, anon... I want a gold dream star bag so much (for a specific coord I have in mind) but I hardly ever see the brand one around. Replicas are pretty cheap, too... But I love brand labels. Ghgh.

>>7469963
>>7469980
>>7469987
Thanks anon, this makes me feel a little better.

>>7469999
I'm just starting out, but I'll keep what you said in mind.
I just want something to match the couple of main pieces I own right now, and like >>7469980 said, I guess they're good for wardrobe-padding.

>>7470048
I want a milk bag and some IW bags.

I put a WTB post on the comm sales. I'm still looking for AP Candy Fun Fair headbow in red. I'm totally fine with buying from international sells too.

I have a dilemma lolis.
I no longer have time to wear my wardrobe or just don't think about wearing it at all anymore. When I look at pictures of coords or my dresses I don't feel any excitement, longing, or happiness. When I try on my dresses I see that they are pretty, but then I get embarrassed and take them off. I don't know if I should sell them or not.

>>7470068
sell stuff that aren't your dream pieces and see if you want to rebuild. don't do stuff with your wardrobe for a while and come back to it later to see if you fall in love with it all over again.

How functional are Excentrique's corsets?

>>7470845
They are fashion corsets, not functional. Even if they are steel boned, there aren't enough bones for waist reduction and support.

>>7470845
Like >>7470868 said, they're mostly for fashion, but they do give a better shape than your standard cheap corset...if you're exactly the right size and shape to fit them. I get 4+ inches of waist reduction out of mine.

I ordered from Baby and IW on the same day, Baby arrived today, IW still hasn't sent me an invoice... I'm starting to lose patience.

Ahhhhhh just sent the first payment for the Lotta set!!

>>7471309
So how many times are you going to post about it on here?
>guys I got a lotta set
>guys I got my lotta set in the mail (include photo)
We dont care about your payment plan.

>>7471421
I'm really excited.

>>7471424
Great, cgl isn't your blog though.

Since there's talk about the replica-game struggle, could someone help me out with this.
I'm really tempted but it looks shady as hell. The girl holding it is wearing an infanta dress too... Is there a taobao seller selling innocent world replica bags? I didn't come up with anything when I did an image search either. Should I just risk the $40?

>>7471627
Where's it from? It'd be easier to tell you if we knew the source.

>>7471627
>>7471633
It's from store envy and listed as 'Lolita home gyaru satchel'
Sorry I forgot to mention that because that's what made it feel shady in the first place!

>>7471637
Hime*

>>7471637
DONT EVER buy from storenvy. Just buy on eBay for the same price. At least you can leave feedback if something goes wrong.
http://ebay.com/itm/251373861307

>>7471017
If they're having a sale ( like they seem to have been doing for literal months ) then your invoice from IW is going to take forever.
I didn't get mine for almost a month. The problem is I believe they have like one person, or maybe a sparing few, that deal with the international orders, so they're always consistently swamped.
tl;dr they're system is awful during sales and you'll be waiting for an abysmal amount of time for anything.

>>7470068
You can sell the stuff you don't love to me, anon.

>>7471740
Not that anon, but is it rude to inquire about the purchase again after a week has gone by?

>>7471752
Emailing them after a week is fine. They say to contact them if three of their business days go by and you haven't received anything. There's a little calender showing which days they work on the "shopping guide: international order" page.

Good news is the winter sale just ended, so they shouldn't be so swamped in the near future.

>>7471767
I think right now the issue isn't sale slowness, but the new sales tax increase is slowing down the processing of all of their sales.

>>7471962
I just got an e-mail back about an inquiry I made 2-3 days ago.

Does Mbok make a userID for you when you bid through them? I'm pretty sure they just gave me the ID name of Sandwich...

>>7472058
that's one of their accounts, they don't give it to you to control, it's so that you can watch the bidding page and know which bids are for you

>>7472096
Yeah, they just confirmed that after I paid. I thought they were trying to make a joke about my name.

How do I search for only lolita bags from these brands on yahoo japan?
>innocent world
>mary magdalene
>victorian maiden
>artherapie
>atelier pierrot
>metamorphose

actually i want a bag that's huge enough for school (books, folders, ring files, notes, whatnot)

or even, how do I omit nonsense like socks and headbows and little plastic accessories from my search? Sometimes I just want to look at bags, dresses, jsks and skirts, but i really hate trudging through so much socks, accessories and little whatnots.

>>7472148
Here are a bunch of terms down below in Japanese that might help you
http://frozen-yjapan.livejournal.com/567.html#cutid1

>>7472156
Thank you anon, I have that link, but it doesn't really help. I've tried searching e.g.
"アンジェリック プリティ -ソックス"
But I will still have to go through mountains of socks in the search result. What am I doing wrong?

>>7472161
maybe try searching for boston bag? those are usually big enough for school supplies, i believe. i want to say they have bags called "school bags" or something but idrk off the top of my head, sorry. i hope you end up finding them, anon!

>>7472105

oh lol I've gotten that account before too and always wondered about it. Was the person who made it hungry at that time or something.

>>7472161
try searching through the advanced search options? drew up pic related for clarification (not exactly sure what "include at least 1" refers to, though...)

>>7472148

All of lolita on yja is grouped under Angelic Pretty category

http://category.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/list/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF-%E3%83%97%E3%83%AA%E3%83%86%E3%82%A3-%E3%81%82-%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E5%88%A5-%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%83%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3/2084229923/

On the left hand side, pick かばん、バッグ (it just means bag).

>>7472161

By the way, this search is basically

"Angelic Pretty" + "socks"

so.... yes, you're gonna get socks because you searched for socks??

>>7472215
Well, I added a minus (-) in front of the katakana for socks, I guess I took it for granted that the search technology is just like any search engines'.

>>7472201
oh man I never knew where this was, thank you, i''ll try it when I'm on my computer

How much should I expect to pay for customs for a brand new dress (£207 in total with shipping and socks) shipped to the UK?

>>7471640
>lolita home gyaru satchel
>lolita homegirl satchel
good typo tho

>>7472298

I think the search term you want to exclude is overknees (オーバーニー)instead of socks

ok, so I recently received a bonnet in the mail.
this being my first bonnet, I have no fucking idea how to put it on.the brim is huge, so it's top heavy, but it comes with a rose corsage so that keeps it in place a little. also, it has ribbon at the bottom.
ITT: How do I bonnet?

>>7472696
tie it behind your ears like a ribbon headdress, or under your chin if you can get it to look nice. i guess some bobby pins would help if it's slipping around too much?

Could anyone tell me what bolero the model on the left (Astronomical Clock) is wearing?

>>7472990
i've tried bobby pins, but the bonnet slides out because it slips forward

>>7472990
>>7474013
Bobby pins aren't gonna cut it for a bonnet. You probably want to sew some alligator clips onto it as well as slide combs to prevent the forward slippage. I also like the clips they use for hair extensions, but they may not cope with the weight.

What's a swap meet?

I said no more main pieces for now, work on making sure I have enough blouses and decent accessories and things to make the most of the great dresses I have.

I said that, but...

>>7474231
I say that aaaaaaall the time, Anon.

>>7474231
Geez anon you sound just like me.

Claudia is getting re released? Didn't they just re release it recently?

>>7474401
Where'd you hear this?

>>7474405
Baby's website, they just announced the rerelease. Man I wish they'd rerelease wicked princess instead

What do you ladies think about loli and glasses?

>>7474709
I'm a glasses loli myself so obviously I'm a little biased, but I think it can look fine, just make sure the frames suit your face (seems like a no-brainer, but a lot of people seem to be really horrible at picking frames that look good on them). And I don't think those big hipster glasses ever look good with loli.

>>7474709
>loli and glasses
>mfw

Fetish aside, I think it can be really cute. Works best if you have more than two pairs or so that you can mix and match the style for your coord based on the day. But I don't think that's required.

Newbie here, I posted something similar in another general thread.
Would it be alright if someone took a lolita coord, but made it slightly more costumy? Like, I want to do a white rabbit based coord, not to look like the rabbit itself but to give it a less blunt gijinka kind of twist? The outfit would be almost entirely aiw inspired (prints + acc.) with maybe some kind of rabbit ear headband that doesn't look obnoxious.
I'd be doing it with my so, who would be the Cheshire cat, again in more formal wear.
I'm a cosplayer before a lolita, but i enjoy the fashion and wouldn't want to give it a bad name.
Has anyone successfully pulled something like this off?

So I really love AP's Country of Sweets print and I'm so conflicted about buying it because I FUCKING HATE RICKRACK. I know a lot of other lolitas feel the same way, is that part of the reason why the resale value of this dress is so comparatively low? Should I just get over it and buy the dress because I like the print? What would you do?

>>7474771
I don't like rickrack either but I think it goes really well with this dress so I'd get over it and get it if I really liked the print.

>>7474771
I have such a guilty pleasure in rickrack, I really like that dress

>>7474771
>is that part of the reason why the resale value of this dress is so comparatively low?
I don't think so, I think it just got less popular. With all the new prints + elaborate design I can see why... country of sweets is really bland comparing to others.

>>7469908
/cgl/, is the BSSB Japan stores stock different from their online shop stock ?
I bought Sweet Cream Strawberry Days on a whim two months ago and I thought I'd get over the print pretty quickly but... no... and now I want the socks, headbow, tights and combs but they're sold out on the Baby website ;_;

>>7474965
Yes it's different.

>>7474973
Thanks !
How can I know if my accessories are in stock somewhere ? Do I need to ask an SS about it ?
I'd ask chibi_tenshi but she can only go to the one in her city, not the ones in Tokyo

>>7474719
forgive me roris for i have sinned
i could resist the big frames no longer
>always going 2 cover face now

I cut off my hair recently because it was super damaged It's about 2cm long now. Any advice on styling/accesoirising that doesn't make me look like a tumblr flake?

>>7474976

If you're in the US, you can try inquiring at the SF store to see if they have it/they can order it in for you.

Everywhere else: http://www.babyssb.co.jp/overseas/

Read to the bottom, then check out the links as well. I think the first one gives you the format your email needs to be in.

With mail order, the response is much slower, but the person answering the emails is able to check if there is stock in another physical store and let you buy it if there is. I was able to buy a couple of items that were sold out online this way in the past, but be warned that I only managed to get half of what I tried to order and they didn't let me cancel or combine orders, so I ended up paying EMS for something like a pair of socks, a blouse and an accessory. Not too bad, but there's a possibility you end up paying EMS for just an accessory.

>>7475256
Wear a wig.

>>7474770
Neither cosplayers nor Lolitas generally like this kind of thing. Too 'closet cosplay' for cosplayers, too 'costume-like' for Lolitas.

>>7474771

I think partly this >>7474796

Also, Country of sweets got a re-release, the previous one wasn't unpopular, but also wasn't highly coveted to begin with, so it's also more of a high supply not-so-high demand thing.

I stupidly got banned from Innocent World, but I still want to buy things from them. Would it be a terrible idea to try to go through a shopping service (do they allow you to buy from FromJapan or Japonica?) to get the items I want? What would happen if they found out? They already seem to hate me and told me not to look on their website anymore as I didn't reply/finalize my payment when my email marked their messages as spam.

>>7475256

If you don't look too bad in salopettes, then fairy kei might look better with super short hair. Also ouji, kodona or boystyle as well.

You could also look into hats and berets.

I tried not to mention wigs and clip ins as I get the feeling you'd like to use your natural hair, but generally short hair looks unbalanced with most lolita styles.

Those of you who have used From Japan, did you use the regular packaging or the extra secure packaging? The items are worth around $150 so I might pick the latter, but it could add an extra $30 in shipping fees by the sounds of things.

>>7475308
Also, why does their site say that EMS is cheaper than Airmail?

>>7475293
Gurl, what did you do? I don't think I've ever heard someone been banned from IW.

>>7470068

Keet all of it for a year and if you still feel the same, start selling stuff off.
You might fall in love with it again and regret selling your wardrobe.

>>7475311
She said the reason in her post.

>didn't reply/finalize my payment

>>7475311
>I didn't reply/finalize my payment
Not the anon you're asking, but IW (as well as other brands) will blacklist you for nonpayment on the first offense. They take it very seriously.

>>7475293
Doubt they'll check who the package will end up going to. If they find out, then they find out. Just use an ss or ask your friends to buy for you (and ship to them without any mention of your name or address).

You should've know better about checking your spam messages.

>>7475314
Yep. Brands don't have time to deal with nonpaying buyers.

>>7475256
With lolita? Wig. I have an extremely short cut too anon, so I'm not just saying it to be antagonistic. No amount of accessorizing or styling will give you the feminine silhouette that's so important to lolita.
Also what >>7475295 said. If you're hell bent on using your natural hair, go with a different style.

>>7474771
I own this particular version in the same colorway, it was my dream dress since the rerelease. I hate rickrack, I love this JSK. Rickrack actually works surprisingly nice on the hem and bow, only the bodice maybe could lose it.
But I'm absolutely not bothered by it, it's barely noticable anyway. It's a gorgeous, detailed print, not too sweet and not too serious, you shouldn't pass it up.

>hi5 for great taste

>>7475311
I've seen a few other people posting on here asking about how to get un-banned, so I know that I'm not the only one.

>>7475315
I could ask a friend, but I'm a bit too embarrassed to tell them so I would rather just use a SS. They'd probably know who all the big ones are though, right? Should I just use Chibi_Tenshi?

I know, I completely forgot too as I was moving house when this all happened so I had very limited internet access. I tried to order again as I thought they had been ignoring me and I used a different email address and a different shipping address (as I'd moved) and I think they thought I was trying to be sneaky and hide my identity. Welp.

>>7475315
>You should've know better about checking your spam messages.
This. I can't imagine not watching that shit like a hawk after I buy directly from a brand. Then again, I couldn't get rid of my money fast enough if I was shooting it in handfuls out of a potato gun, I have a really bad spending habit.

>>7475319
That actually makes me feel quite a bit better, it's on my wishlist now. Only reason I'm not buying the one on closetchild right now is because I'm holding out for an IW's Oddment Pack.

>hi5 for your 2 cents, I really appreciate it

>>7475320
There are other reasons people use an as, like packages getting marked down. I think you should be fine with using whatever SS you want.

Lol, I buy things for a few of my friends that have gotten blacklisted from btssb for the stupidest reasons. It happens.

>>7475317
Just because you're self conscious about your short hair in lolita doesn't mean everyone should be. I've seen tons of amazing coords with short hair. And honestly I'd love to see more because you guys keep telling new people "just buy a wig" then complain when you see tons of people wearing wigs with no care, styling, or cut bangs. A wig is not a fix-all. If you can't style your hair, you probably can't style your wig. One step at a time. Not to mention the fact that everyone buys the same fucking wigs they see everyone else wearing, because they know it'll look "good" with lolita. I mean, would you honestly prefer someone walking around wearing a wig and being clueless about it, or someone with short hair who styled it super cute and well?

>>7475330
Ah, I hadn't thought of that. That makes me feel a bit better, thanks!

You're nice to do that anon, good on you!

>>7475287
>>7475295
>>7475317
>>7475331
Thanks for all the replies! Wigs are not really an option because I wear Lolita daily and work near fire

>>7475331
The original anon who asked has about two centimeters of hair on her head right now. You can't really style 2cm hair to look super feminine and girly. Wearing a regular-sized hat that covers most of your head might work, but that's really about it.
Also I'd rather see someone wearing a wig badly than wearing their natural short hair badly because let's be honest here, the chances of someone being able to pull off short hair in lolita is so much slimmer than the chances of them looking like a transfeminine Tumblr snowflake.

>>7475344
well sure, but it doesn't seem like they want to keep it that length? I mean, it will grow out really quickly to be an inch or two, pixie cut, and pixie cuts are adorable in lolita. Plus I think everyone here could deal with possibly seeing a lolita with very short hair once or twice. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, anon, remember that.

>>7475346
Fair enough. I just don't think lolitas are ready to handle super short hair yet (or ever, really).

Now bald lolitas, that's something I want to see being pulled off.

>>7475342
>wearing lolita while working near fire

That sounds like a retarded idea anon.

If a wig is such a hazzard, why isn't a big poofy skirt with easily ignited lace and ruffles?

>>7475353
haha, you're probably right. it'd take me some ingenuity, i think (i didn't do well with short hair before, but i was also in middle school haha) but the challenge is sort of what makes it fun.

haha omg, i'd actually love to see that pulled off.

>>7475356
Because I'm wearing an apron and there is leather over my lap, so it doesn't really matter what I wear, though I try to stay away from polyester
but my hair is pretty much on one level with the fire and a synthetic wig catching fire would be a lot worse than a dress mostly made out of cotton..especially since it's on my head

>>7475308
I've never bothered with secure packing, I think that'd only be worth it if you've bought something super delicate/breakable like glass

>>7475331
You sure are doing a lot of projecting, anon. Your entire argument seems to be based on the " tons of amazing coords" you've seen with short hair, but where are these coords anon? Please, if you have some super secret treasure trove with "tons" of photos of lolitas successfully pulling off a pixie cut, do share it! Because the only times I've ever seen girls attempt to combine lolita with a pixie cut she gets her asshole shredded open. I'm not talking about girls with chin-length bobs, I'm talking the 2cm hair length >>7475256 is talking about.
Also,
>If you can't style your hair, you probably can't style your wig.
It seems like this comment is made with the assumption that people with short hair only have short hair because they're inept at styling? Even if it's not, regardless of their ability to style hair some people just don't have hair suited for styling. Mine, for example, was very damaged and unmanageable when it was long because of almost 10 years worth of heat styling and dye. >>7475256 was also in that boat with me and made the same choice.
>everyone buys the same fucking wigs they see everyone else wearing
Except for the fact that they don't? Have you taken a look at the Taobao spreadsheet lately and seen all of the recommended wig suppliers? In case you haven't, there are an actual ton of them and the styles are extremely varied (from natural-colored lacefronts to pastel-vomit twintails), and that's just on Taobao alone. And all of those suppliers are being recommended because people are buying from them and they're having good results. It sounds like you've built your lolita visual library almost entirely on tumblr and you think the things that are popular there are good examples of lolita fashion. I hate to break it to you, but that's really not the case.

>>7475388
(continued, because tl;dr)
>I mean, would you honestly prefer someone walking around wearing a wig and being clueless about it, or someone with short hair who styled it super cute and well?
In lolita? The wig, every time. I'd rather see a ratty, tangled Miku wig than a well-maintained pixie cut -in lolita- because it's a bigger step in the right direction. In case you haven't noticed, the point of lolita is to look as feminine as possible, and you should probably also do some reading on the meaning behind women having short haircuts in Japanese/Asian cultures (don't forget that this is a Japanese fashion, not a tumblr fashion).

>Just because you're self conscious about your short hair in lolita doesn't mean everyone should be.
what the fuck are you even on about

>>7475370
>would be a lot worse than a dress mostly made out of cotton
I hope you wear Bodyline.

>>7475388
i was thinking about digging them up, but i haven't been following any daily coords for years and it would take forever. i can't remember any names off the top of my head either. but i will be keeping any eye for them and posting any i see, now. i actually think that if less people recommended just wearing a wig, maybe more people with short hair would give it a go (or other hair styles in general. i guess i get bored by stagnation, and the wigs i'm seeing now look exactly like wigs everyone was wearing 3-4 years ago, except they're even more prevalent).

also, i wasn't implying people with short hair can't style their hair - i just meant that, around here, i also see people recommending that girls with hair that is unkempt or not super clean just pop on a wig instead. and i just feel like if someone hasn't achieved a decent amount of personal hygiene, they probably won't put a lot of dedication into styling their wig, either. i wasn't very clear about that, my apologies.

I just went through my lolita wardrobe and found a few white marks on my Cathedral Print JSK. My heart did a double-take as I haven't worn it in almost 2 years so they must have been there for awhile. They came right off with a quick wipe, thank god.

I also have a Moitie OP at the dry cleaners that I'm worried about. It came to me with lots of white marks on it, not unlike the ones on the other dress only they wouldn't come off. When I took it to the dry cleaners the guy just threw it under the bench all nonchalant. If that dress gets damaged even further I will be so upset. Gah. This is (partly) why I rarely wear my clothes.

I have nothing to worry about, right? Has anyone ever had a dry cleaner butcher their dress? What did you do about it?

>>7475406
No Bodyline but mostly Taobao or off-brand stuff and as I said, It's mostly covered up.
I've been doing this for quite some time now, and the only thing I ruined so far was an off brand cardigan. So your brand is save!

>>7475388
> It sounds like you've built your lolita visual library almost entirely on tumblr and you think the things that are popular there are good examples of lolita fashion. I hate to break it to you, but that's really not the case.

I've thought this more than once recently when people defend obvious 'just no' elements in lolita lately...I hope it isn't so but I'm afraid it is a growing thing. Tumblr is one of the worst places for uncurated style inspiration unless you have a rock solid sense of style already.

Can anyone help me ID this Moitie dress? I just won it on auction for super cheap and I'd like to find more pictures of it. I've seen it before and I think it's around 10 years old, but unfortunately I lost all of the stock pictures I had hoarded from the first 5 or 6 years I was in lolita, which included pictures of this.

>>7475430
oh, didn't even see that comment. i actually was only on egl/daily_lolita until like 2010, then i was on tumblr for a little bit around 2012 - i followed some lolita blogs but only people i knew from LJ. i very rarely go on tumblr anymore, and only to reblog aesthetic things to help inspire me to sew and create and shit. i could post my tumblr if you want to see the sorts of things that i reblogged etc. gosh i could even make my pinterest lolita wishlist public! but honestly i don't think i have to "prove" i'm not "from tumblr" just because i'm advocating for more hair style diversity in a street style that has grown to be quite diverse. i just think that having well styled hair is more important than following ~rules of femininity~ or whatever lolita rules you think are set in stone. i don't think long hair is inherently feminine, either.

>>7475439
This one shows the texture which is the main reason I bought it, I used to have a different Moitie OP with a similar material that I miss.

>>7475256
It can be done imo. I'd wear lots of hats, small corsages and thin headbands. I don't think it'd be that easy for a sweeter style tho. You have to keep in mind that, yes, you'll look a little tomboyish but that never stopped anyone from being and looking classy.
Pic related. This girl rocks her short haircut like no one else.

>>7475452
Moar inspiration for short-haired anon.
I may have another short haired girl in my inpiration folder. Let me check.

>>7473173
that dress and leggings are so cute. total noob here does anyone know where they are from?

>>7475500
dress innocent world
tights grimoire

>>7475308
>>7475310
I've always used regular packaging and it's been fine. And EMS is often cheaper than airmail, Japan has relatively reasonable EMS rates.

>>7475439
Do you happen to know the item number by any chance? It should be written on one of the inside tags and it would be much easier to identify the dress with this information.

>>7475543
Unfortunately not as I don't have it yet, the auction just ended today. I love that the tags have the ID info on it though.

>>7475558
Ah I see. I'd happily look it up for you anon, but since it's so plain it would be a torture without more information. But when you get the dress you can post an update with the item number, I'll keep an eye on these threads.

>>7475567
That's very nice of you anon! How do you usually go about finding things? I just Google the name in Japanese and in English and I usually find it. Normally I'm good at finding things, but with no name or ID number on such an old dress, I'm stumped.

At the risk of starting another replica debate, is there any holy lantern replicas out there? it's my favorite print and id love to have one that i could wear to work. i work with hair and so my clothing gets pretty messy at work so i wouldnt want to wear the original to the salon

What happens if two anons use Japonica to bid on the same item? How do they decide who should win?

>>7475681
japonica is one of the few ss's that allows more than one buyer to bid on the same item. Obviously whoever bids higher gets it, don't they have more than 1 account or what.

>>7475681
it happens sometimes; Japonica has multiple accounts. They'd just have 1 person on one account, the other person to the other account, and bid like regular.

>>7475687
And they don't let you know at all that someone else is definitely going to beat you? It seems like such a tease...

>>7475714
why would they? it kind of breaks confidentiality if they tell you, plus if the price gets raised so does their commission fee payout.

How does everyone feel about Haenuli's new release?

495USD

>>7475732
I love flicking through the fb album, magic colour changing dress shoop ahoy. I like the navy and black versions. Looks like Haenuli is heading back in the right direction after the Sall of Starlight mess, especially since the bodice seems to be a reasonable lengt-

>Four hundred and Ninety Five US Dollars

haha nevermind

>>7475740
pintucks, man

would you want to press all those??

>>7475732
>>>7475653
TWO HUNDRED PINTUCKSSSS

Does anyone know of some cute dresses that are pleated?

>>7475740
Whats the Sall of Starlight mess?

>>7475732
I think I'd like it better without the pintucks actually, which is a shame since that's likely why the price is so high. I like the cut, kind of a old-school VM/IW hybrid.
If they did a plainer no-pintucks version I'd be interested.

>>7475780
Ball of Starlight. Ugh, fingers.

>>7475732
does anyone else think its funny they just shooped one photo into multiple colors? There a possibility it could be inaccurate when they did it that way instead of having actual multiple samples...

>>7475780
>>7475794
Uh, to answer your question though, it was a combination of the horrible bodice on the Ball of Starlight dresses, which was an improvised design due to the fabric being printed wrong, the ridiculously high price, the general un-lolitaness of the design, and the launch of the "royal label" and the opening of a second reservation which Haenuli said was because of "high demand" but is generally reckoned to be because there weren't enough orders in the first round.

>>7475804
yeah they're the first brand to do that

eyerolls massively

>>7475812
wait i didnt hear about the fabric being printed wrong, I thought it was really stupid how the dress wasnt symmetrical front-back or horizontally, it needed an underskirt, and the bodice cut was uggo too.

>>7475756

>$495 dress
>doing your own laundry

Just take it to the laundry man, let the chinese lady there press it for you.

>>7475594
At first I try lolibrary and google, when there is nothing I'll search through old blogs and different sources using the wayback machine. The last step would be to look up old fashion magazines aka Kera magazine, GLB and so on. This may take a while, especially if you have so little information on a plain dress.

>>7475732
That's getting up into wedding dress prices for something that looks rather basic. That is a $200 dress at most, and yes even with the pintucks and other details

>>7475888
You probably could use the white version as a wedding dress.

>>7474733
Mixing up glasses can be a realy pain though.

Because each pair sits differently on yur face, your eyes need time to adjust to the way the new pair sits. My eyes take up to a week to adjust to new glasses, so swapping pairs around isn't really an option. I think most people who actually NEED their glasses are like this (e.g. their vision is more than just a little fuzzy without.)

Life sucks. I like to just get a pair that are neutral and will look good with a lot of different styles.

>>7475888
....$500 is wedding dress prices?

>>7475910
Anyone know where those shoes are from?

>>7475913
Yes.

Unless you have an extravagant wedding, most dresses for normal weddings are $300-$1000.

>>7475913
Wedding dresses can go for way, waaaay more than that.

Yo, I guess the thread talking about Haenuli's new release got deleted.

>$500 because OVER 200 PINTUCKS
>"weh but it's not special printed burando who would ever pay that" says fb

Annoyed at people who think prints are the be all and end all of lolita. My non-print dresses are the nicest quality things I own. Hell, I haven't bought a print dress in a year now.

>>7476245
200 badly placed pintucks? Did it really need 200 pintucks? It would have probably looked a lot nicer if less pintucks were used, or they weren't used diagonally on the skirt section.

>>7475888
$200? Making that dress requires a shitton of work compared to the average OP. I don't think there's a market for that dress at a $500 price point, but that's not an inflated price.

What happened to IW anniversary rose series? I finally decided to buy some, and it's GONE. Is it all suddenly sold out?

>>7476245
Yeah, granted, the girl complaining is a total aspie. One of those 'oh I've been a Lolita for 20 years' but proves again and again with every one of her comments that she doesn't know shit, won't admit she's a noon, and I believe she's on the same tier as fluffyrabidkitten in terms of her 'wardrobe'

Aside from that, is the labor involved and materials worth the price tag? Most likely. Was it a smart business move in the indie lolita market? I don't believe so at all.

>>7476245
idk anything about the Henuli drama but I'm a lolita who does not own a single printed piece, unless you count floral or stripes. I fucking hate prints.

>>7476280
They probably removed the pages to make room for upcoming seasonal stuff. If you still have the item # you can email them and ask if they still have the stuff you want.

>>7476283
Oh which girl was that?

Okay seagulls, I bought a gold dream star replica loris bag through buychina. They sent me these pictures today. Has buychina fucked up and ordered silver, loris fucked up and sent the wrong bag, or is buychina's photography just beyond shit?

I sent buychina a message about it, but I've yet to get a response. However it's only been 5 hours, so I wasn't expecting anything by now.

Has anybody else faced this problem with buying through buychina?

>>7476328
Oh noes D: But thanks anon, I'll try. Is there any chance they'll move it to the Sale section? There's nothing there right now.

>>7476359
It looks like a discolored, dirty silver star bag...

>>7476356
I think her name is Lindsey? She makes the most innane comments on most of the update posts

>>7475888
>That is a $200 dress at most
>yes even with the pintucks
Do you even pintucks m8?

I think we can all basically agree that
1. It is fact that the pintucks are what makes the dress so expensive
2. The pintucks aren't even necessary and really distracting from aesthetics
3. Even without the pintucks, it really isn't a wonderful design to begin with.
I propose that Haenuli just stick to her usual clip art design prints, or better yet, create more prints that are to the tune of Stained Glass of St Giles which is still the dream dress for many people who missed out. Though I would recommend maybe a different fabric in future, because I found it so hard to match blacks...

I need some coord help, I bought this but have no idea what blouse to wear. I'm kind of new to lolita as well.

>>7476486
>>7476486
no blouse let dem titties flop out

Not sure where to ask but does anyone know if the deer on the right side of this picture is a bag? I can't really tell with the placement of the text if it has info on it. If it does, can anyone make out where it may be from?

>>7476486
White Peter pan collar blouse; can be short or long sleeved. For casual, more fairy kei look, use cutsew. OtKs for socks look best for salos. Minimal poof petti.

>>7476504
The text is for the hoodie above it. I think it's just decoration for the collage.

>>7476508
*Blouse, sorry. Thought it was a hoodie.

>>7476504
Not a bag.

>>7476505
Thanks anon, I need to find somewhere to get cute cutsews for a good price and more blouses. I have a white Bodyline blouse but the collar is just too damn big and ugly.

Does this look like a replica (or a "heavily inspired by" piece) of some other print? I want the skirt of it like YOOOO, but if it's a replica of something else, I'd like to see the original.

>>7476508
>>7476512
OK thanks. I guess all the art in the background merged with its head to look like straps to me haha, thanks for the help!

>>7476543
not a replica just a hot mess waiting to happen

Dat feel when walking out of goodwill with this bolero. Only thing that seems to be missing is the detachable front bow.

Cost me $6. Who have though my first piece of burando would be from goodwill.

>>7476559
Where are you from, anon?

>>7476559
That poor girl who's mother probably gave her burando boleros to goodwill...

>>7476559
Congrats, anon!

The last time I went to the thrift store I found this hideous, velveteen bolero with tacky lace on it. I looked at the tag and it said "Milano". It was missing the extra "o" but it still cracked me up pretty bad.

>>7476559
Holy moly, nice luck.

>>7476570
Yeah. I was talk with another Loli friend over the phone and we were both wondering how it ended up at goodwill. It's not damaged or stained. I speculate that some girl's parent cleaned out her closet or it got put in with donations by mistake. I've got friends in the comm so if the original owner is part of it, probably end up hearing something.

>>7476559
I donated all of my Bodyline and Taobao loli items when I started buying brand. Though, I'm sure that's no where near as exciting as finding a good brand piece for 6 dollars. Good job, anon!

Newbie lolita question incoming.
Other than crazy colored hair, are there any, like, preferred hair colors for certain styles of lolita? I have light brown hair, somewhat like pic related, and I'd like to get into gothic.
Could I just do with my own hair? Or should I look into getting a wig?

>>7476587
I wish I wasn't so cheap as to sell all my bodyline and cheapo lolita. I could make some girls dreams in my town to put some lolita in the thrift shops.

>>7476593
Wigs are in no way necessary for any style of lolita. As long as your hair is clean and styled, it will work.

>>7476593
Use your real hair if you like. Natural hair colours tend to look good in any style because they're just that - natural.
However wigs are great if you're not that good at styling. Do what you feel comfortable with, but I think your hair will look fine with gothic. I've seen blonde gothic lolitas that look amazing.

>>7476596
>>7476598
Alright, thank you! I was just a little worried because it wasn't black or super light blonde like I had seen other gothic lolitas do, that it might look lazy or something.

Anyone want to share some of their preferred shops for accessories? Preferably handmade and not Taobao. Looking for wristcuffs and clip in bows, specifically.

>>7476359
Can anybody help me on this?

>>7476472
Lol I just find it funny how she asked people's opinions, got a good mix of agreement and disagreement, and bawwwwleeted the thread. Just because she's stupid and inexperienced doesn't mean everyone else is

>>7474719
Well, I find it hard to pick out glasses because I can't see without my glasses and its not like they have my prescription in the sample.
So I always have to hope the sales person knows there shit or hold up my glasses awkwardly over the new pair somehow trying to figure out if they look like ass or not.
Seriously how do people pick nice frames, I can't see my whole face pressed 2 inches away from the mirror. My old glasses place was all this plus the horror of having my pupils dilated. The horrible choices I made.

>>7476700
What? I'm only talking about her, no one else in that post, my bad if it came off as if I was

>>7475388
>>7475392
I just. Ratty, tangled Miku wig better than a pixie cute? Eugh no. I hate the fucking short hair hate cgl has. Most of the times I've seen it posted on here it has looked decent, but people have to shit up shit shitting everywhere because short hair is SO NOT RORI FEMININE.

>>7476559
i call bullshit. pics or it didnt happen

pic of the bolero and the receipt for goodwill

>>7476712
I'm the anon to replied to, and I know your feels, I'm horribly blind (-7.00 in my right eye, -7.50 in my left) so picking out frames can be a bit of a nightmare. I used to always bring my mother with me because she has a good eye for what suits me and is brutally honest. Now I have contacts, though, and I wear them whenever I go to pick out new glasses.
Also, a lot of places where I am have a sort of webcam setup so you can try on glasses, take a picture, and then put on your old glasses and see what you think. If the places you go to don't have that and you don't have contacts, I'd recommend bringing along a very honest friend with an eye for style.

>>7476726
I can take a picture later tonight when I get home or tomorrow morning. But why would I feel the need to lie about finding something at goodwill. There's enough stories floating around where girl's stuff was given away by family to other people. It's not like I found some ultra rare print dress.

>>7476724
Pixie cut anon here. Niche fashions are not all-inclusive and I'm sorry that lolita can't accommodate all of the style features you like, but that's not the point of the fashion at all. Thinking about lolita at it's roots, how many women in the Victorian era do you think cut their hair this short? None of them. It just wasn't a thing, and it wasn't until well into the 1900's with the flapper girls doing it as a big fat "fuck you" to the "long hair = more feminine" aesthetic.
I'm not saying that to say lolita fashion won't evolve and some day develop a place for super short hair but as it stands now that place just doesn't exist. At least in the beginning, it's gonna take a lot of really popular, well-coordinated people pulling it before it's going to become more widely accepted. It just hasn't been done well consistently enough yet.
Not to mention the fact that cutting your hair this short is a big commitment that a lot of girls simply don't want to make...it's much easier to throw on a long wig over short hair than to cram a bunch of long hair under a short wig. That's the other reason why I was okay with doing it myself...besides removing all of the damage I had, it makes wearing wigs a lot more comfortable.
If you're going to sit around and bitch about how much you hate the way short hair is received in lolita, the least you could do is try it yourself and post some coords online. Give it more exposure, as opposed to just passively griping about it.

>>7476724
Short hair isn't feminine. Go back to tumblr if you want people to asspat your ugly ass hair.

>>7476733
I brought my boyfriend last time, I have vision similar yo you, -7 and -6.5, and he helped me pick a pair. They were... almost exactly like his, but they look good on me. Not very lolita, though, that was a few years ago

>>7476773
why the hell are you trip fagging on here

>>7476771
Of course, that's not to say that you'll actually make a difference at all because chances are you're not very popular or influential and you're just going to get written off as a tumblr-tryhard. But actively trying to incorporate the change you want to see is more admirable than coming to 4chan and just bitching about why nobody else is wearing what you want to see.

What is /cgl/ lolita's thoughts on handcrafted accessories made out of dry flowers? I was considering making small wreath and star pendants, corsages, clips for hats/bonnets, hair combs, and hairpieces styled to match classic lolita and old school sweet styles. They would be sealed, so reasonably durable. Opinions?

>>7476812
This is not a depiction of what I mean btw, just a simple picture of cinnamon sticks.

>>7476812
If they're for yourself, I say go for it. If they look nice, it'll add a great personal touch to your coords. I love seeing little details like that, it's refreshing to see people wearing things they didn't just go and buy from taobao. If you're considering selling them, Id say stick with silk flowers for a lot of obvious reasons (logistics, production time, etc).

>>7476814
Also I don't know why but this comment was so adorable to me, I like you anon.

>>7475286
just to try and clarify, it would be more of a themed dress than a costume, I think it would be fun personally, and ill do my best to make it look good.

>>7476826
That's the problem it seems. I did want to sell a few of them, but you're right. They would be very difficult to transport safely.

On a similar note, I'm not entirely happy with the quality of most silk flowers I've found. Where can I buy high quality ones that are reasonably priced? I've gone to craft stores, hobby stores, even florists; they all tell me to go to Michael's lol.

How high quality are silk flowers on brand hairpieces? Anyone have pictures?

>>7476593
All you need to do is style it. I would recommend bangs though or at least get some clip in bangs in your hair color. However, if you have thin ass Dakota Rose type hair, please wear a wig. Limp thin hair is gross... people with thicker hair can get away with it.

>>7476828
Aww, thank you. I like you too.

>>7476504
Your stupidity aside, wtf is that Wonder Party coordinate? Ew

>>7476504
It's very obviously not a bag lol. Did you think the big pink circle in the middle of the page was a "bag" too? Wow.

>>7476548
Different anon, but I don't think it looks that bad.

>>7476845
>>7476856
haha, yes I feel pretty dumb, but it looked like it had handles coming out of the head! I'm glad I gave you guys something to chuckle at today at least! lol, I know I am

>>7476909
Those are antlers...

>>7476935
oh goooooooooood i am such an idiot, hahahahaaha, thank you for that!

>>7476559
hate to break it to you anon but there was a group order for a replica of this bolero a long time ago (I think over two years ago? not sure) so it might be a replica. source: I own one of the replicas in ivory lol. I actually just sold it and need to ship it but I ran out of my medication and am too tired to do anything until i start taking it again tomorrow.

is there an AP tag on it by any chance? sucks if it actually is brand, but at least you saved it!

>>7476946
I don't have it right in front of me, but it did have an Angelic Pretty tag which at a glance looked machine sewn in, along with a care tag with the item code, which is how I found the stock images. When I was talking with my friend, we were talking about the possibility of it being a replica. I'd have to compare the tag on the bolero to pictures of legit tags since I don't own any AP. Worse case, it's a replica, and I ended up with a cheap and cute bolero. At best, I ended up with a legit piece missing it's front detachable bow. Either way, I think I did okay regardless.

>>7476771
lol if you're going to go the historical route you shouldn't forget to mention coiffure a la Titus, or coiffure a la victime (pic related). during the reign of terror from the french revolution, some women cut their hair very short and wore it curly in front to honor the deceased. and it's not like fashion from that period hasn't inspired lolita in some way--Btssb (or Aatp, I forget) released a wedding gown fairly recently that resembles the simpler, white dresses of the era following the french revolution (the directory era), with dresses having looser silhouettes than their previous rococo counterparts. it's not like short hairstyles have been absent from history or the time periods that lolita fashion draw inspirations from, it just needs to match the right coordinate and be styled correctly.

>>7476973
The history of this particular style is a little more grim than simply honoring the dead. It was more meant to mimic the quick and dirty haircuts received by women destined for the guillotine. Women's hair got in the way of the blade, so it was cropped short before execution. It was also common to wear a thin red ribbon as a choker to mimic where your head would have been chopped off, and aristocrats famously threw parties where you couldn't get an invite unless you could prove that a relative had been executed during the reign of terror. Morbid, ritzy fun times.

>>7476983
oh yeah! the Bals des victimes! forgot about those. history is pretty fucked up.

does anyone happen to know where I can find the renewed AP shopping page? they were supposed to open the 4th, but I can't find anything

>>7477122
No... They have not released the date yet. The 4 stands for April. They will make another announcement before they re-open.

I wonder if I will have to open another new account thought. I still have not been awarded my 500 points for opening a new one since they added the registration link... Anyone else have that problem?

>>7476973
Anon, you are beautiful. I'm always looking for this type of historical intrigue in lolita. It's so rare and fascinating. The appropriation of old-world style is so much more fun when you know the story behind it!

>>7476973
>>7476983
Wow thank you guys for sharing, this is incredibly interesting. Other anon who would rather see a shitass Miku wig than short pretty hair is p tasteless.

>>7477125
You can still get on AP-usa. Does that mean we can buy from there?

>>7477143
Wow you are really out of the loop huh?

>>7476973
>>7476983
This is cool as hell to know. Thanks anon

>>7477156
Yes. I am. I answered a simple question, can anybody answer it?

>>7476973
>>7476983
Thank you for sharing that. That was wonderful.

>>7477245
*asked. oops.

>>7477245
AP USA ain't closing, just AP international

>hurrr amerifags who think world is just them + japan

What's the etiquette on using brand items like plates/cups/cloths/etc? Should they be treated as a collectors item and put on display?

>>7477254
I'm from the UK.

>>7477256
Do whatever you fucking want with your stuffs. Most people use them as collectibles and display them, but they are meant to be used.

>>7477143
>>7477258

Different anon, I take it you're asking if AP USA ships internationally. If so, it would be easier on everybody if your question was worded as specifically as possible, otherwise we're too busy trying to figure out what you're asking to try and answer what question we think you are asking.

(Answer is yes. You could also have emailed AP USA to ask them that question directly, or contacted them on facebook. Why am I giving you so much info anyways, I'm not even sure what question you're asking.

>>7472323
i read this as "lolita homegirl snatch"
i need sleep.

>>7477256
I use mine.

>>7477277
No, no. I was asking if AP-USA was shipping at all to anywhere, or if the shop was also down, but they forgot to do something about it.

>>7477289
AP USA is not down and has not been down. You're confusing it with AP International/English site which is not the same.

It seems like the cleaning thread has gone, so posting this here: I just got a dress back from the dry cleaner and while they did a decent job of cleaning it, it smells really chemically. Apparently this is due to them not drying it properly and I'm a bit miffed as it was really pricey considering that it wasn't even done properly. I've aired it out for about 8 hours and it seems a little bit better (or maybe I've just gotten used to the smell). Would it be okay to put it back in my closet or will it make the other stuff smell? Is it likely the smell will completely go away on its own?

When you reserve items with IW do you pay a deposit or the full price? If it's a deposit do you know the percentage of the cost they ask for?

I did some googling but couldn't find what I was looking for. Maybe I'm blind.

>>7477361
Nevermind, apparently it's because their filter is dirty and that they just did a shitty job. I'm going to have to pay to get a lift out there again too, damn it. I hope this doesn't damage the dress.

>>7475277
>http://www.babyssb.co.jp/overseas/
You are so nice anon, thank you <3

>>7477385
full price. they dont do payment plans. in fact, no japanese stores do. they dont do consignment.

>>7477393
Thank you for your help! That's what I thought but while I was searching I saw something about deposits and it confused me.

>>7477404
That's for instore with Baby only. You pay a fixed amount depending on the item type/cost when you reserve and then you get that back and pay the cost of the item(s) when it/they come into stock.

>>7474231
Ugh, you and me both.

>>7477393
No Lolita stores do that no, but some Japanese online stores don't make you pay anything for reservation/preorders at all.

>>7476770
You're a gross person.

>>7476771
>>7476778
I do post coords with my short hair, and people generally like them. I don't mind wigs--I want some wigs because sometimes I do feel my hair isn't good for a coord.

What is super annoying is shit like >>7476770 being a little dildo just because someone exists with short hair in lolita, and does not wish to wear a wig sometimes.

>>7477510
If you're posting them on tumblr, of course they're going to be well-received. Tumblr's attitude of "good for you for breaking the rules, don't let anyone stifle your ~uniqueness~!!" contaminates feedback. Try posting them here, if they really are good you don't have anything to worry about. It's pretty easy to weed out the asshats who are just spewing bile for the sake of it vs. people trying to give you legitimate concrit.

>>7477558
>>7477510
We've had tons of threads where girls with super short hair post and most of the posts are about how the haircut/style looks really awkward with the rest of the outfit/is more suited for shit like rockabilly.

Now, obviously all short hair doesn't look bad, but pixiecuts and other boystyle/tomboy cuts don't look good with lolita proper because there's an intrinsic anti-feminine aspect of those kinds of cuts because they're designed to look more on the boyish/androgynous side of things. It's really just a fact that cuts designed to look more boyish/androgynous are going to look off with a fashion that revolves around looking classically feminine/girly. It's nothing about the haircut, and it would certainly look better with ouji but it just doesn't match the overall aesthetic lolita has.

>>7476831
themed coords are pretty common, just make sure you're using high-quality items that you are confident fit lolita aesthetic.

How do you know if your Japonica assistant actually placed a bid on your item? I'm looking at the ID they've assigned for me, but I don't see it anywhere on the bidding history of the item. Am I just looking at the wrong thing or what?

(an example of what I'm using to search for my bid: gar******)

>>7476770
Neither are my muscles. But they're great for beating the shit out of nasty people. (Not that I have short hair, it's rather long, but still, yo)

Has anyone bought shoes from Lenore? What's the quality?

Ok, I'm having issues with auctions here.

>see dream dress on y!ja with 4 hours left
>sent urgent bid on y!ja via Tokyo Pirates
>it was past 2 am here
>did not get her response until later today
>around past 2 am, sent it via Japonica Market
>he got back with me first
>sent deposit on paypal
>paypal confirmed that I had already paid him
>he never bid? Auction is back up for another 20 hours.
>what the fuck

I really want to auction something, but which site will get me most bids?
Should I go with the comm sale, lacemarket or LSE?

>>7477818
that sucks, really urgent auctions with tokyo pirates can be a gamble but i've never had a problem with anything around 9 hours. is japonica market going to bid on the new auction for you?

>>7477827
I have no idea. I was hoping that TP would have gotten back with me first because it was day time in Japan at the time. I emailed JM about this and waiting for a response.

>>7477828
what is it? i'd say lacemarket but make the starting price not *too* high

>>7477828
comm sales is the lousiest thing for auctions. I'd say use LM.

>>7475912
To be fair, I think this might primarily be an issue with astigmatism. My sister has glasses of a similar strength and can switch like it's nobody's business, but I'm stuck with splitting headaches for a while when I have to switch.


Going to be fun getting my prescription upped~

What's the general opinion on non dress replicas? I'm getting a taobao order together and am having a hard time resisting the sweet siren call of the replica boleros...

>>7477906

Link to these boleros, please?

>>7477888
Which one? Link? Brands can't own a clothing design. But if it's not just something simple then other people might give you the side eye

>>7477842
>>7477853

I think I'll go with Lacemarket then.
The problem with that is though, that I never used it before & no feedback, I have comm sales feedback though.
It also won't let you change currency, I'd prefer selling in euros tbh.

>>7476543
sauce on the print anon? i kind of love it

>>7476983
I'm totally using that thin red ribbon choker thing to make a really subtle guro coordinate at some point. Thanks history anon!

anyone have any experience with this blouse? i'm looking for a cheap one for a cosplay (this one is 35$). Wondering if it's not completely shit.

It looks decent in the pictures and something that wont be too bad for cosplay quality.

>>7477906
>>7477908

Here is the link to the boleros >http://shpure.taobao.com/category.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-1621668970.41.IIS6dw&mid=w-1621668970-0&search=y&pageNo=1#anchor

Seriously hope this is a joke, why would you not have a dress code on the Enchanted event?

>>7478139
Well they are copying the embroidered logos which is illegal but do whatever you want. Please note that I see those boleros all the time on second hand market for super cheap though like in the 20-50 USD range

>>7477977
not the OP, but that's from magic-tea-party.taobao

I have a question. My baby sister has been asking me if she 'can wear pretty princess dresses, too.' So, I looked on bodyline, since they're cheaper and I doubt she'll actually like wearing it. Would that be okay?

>>7478163
I dont see why not, especially if you're buying it for her. Get her a couple basic pieces from bodyline. There are a few of those dresses that arent COMPLETELY terrible looking. Assuming you know how to coordinate, you can probably pick those out yourself.

And when she gets tired of wearing pretty dresses too, you can sell bodyline for cheap and get some of your money back. If she gets really into it you can maybe invest in some cheaper brand pieces that will sell back for a better price.

>>7478163
Depending on how old your sister is, the Kid section of bodyline could work out nicely for you. They've even got some of their better pieces in those sizes.

AFAIK, bodyline are the only place that make cut-size lolita dresses.

>>7477828
If you go with LM, make sure to advertise on LSE. If it's a high demand item, comm sales might still be better since you can do things like set a minimum bid increase and not allow sniper bids.

>>7477564
I have to disagree. The pixie girl in pic related pulls it off, imo. Don't think it would work quite the same with sweet, though.

>>7478225
Only one of her outfits is really lolita, though. The polka dot dress is more like retro, and the check skirt is plain old normalfag.

Not saying that short hair can't work, but I don't think she's the best example.

So does anybody know the identity of xaoibarax on livejournal? Apparently, a super opinionated poster about Bodyline and the post got deleted. The only reason I saw it was because I have egl on my RSS feed.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:N3IrBKPe7IAJ:egl.livejournal.com/19618121.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

>>7477794
I bought shoes from her in the beginning of February. Still waiting. Don't do it unless you're willing to chase her down and have plenty of extra time before you need them, and by extra time I mean at least six months.

>>7478567
Oh she's just a new ita that scored some bodyline during the free shipping period. Don't be too bothered about it.

>>7477794
Got a pair of navy shoes from them! They came quick and they're good quality. They got a huge surge of orders a while back, though. I think they're still trying to catch up.

>>7478567
I would have loved to see ifwinterends arguing with an actual Japanese lolita. So sad she deleted it.

The post itself is one of the most self contradicting things I've read recently. It was hilarious.

OK, it's taken me way too long to ask this but how do people deal with wearing headbows or headbands for extended periods of time without getting the worst headache imaginable? Or do I have some kind of ogre head or something?

>>7478866
Tilt it slightly, don't wear it directly behind your ears. I find that helps quite a bit.

>>7472148
check out putumayo bags they're large
http://putumayo.fu.shopserve.jp/SHOP/172543/list.html

>>7478866

I make my own and pad it by wrapping ribbon around the ends. Maybe you could do something like that? I know with store bought headbands I can get headaches easily.

Sorry if this is dumb of me to ask, but how do people wear ankle socks and tights with lolita? I want to try doing it but I'm afraid of doing it wrong

>>7479859
I think ankle socks + tights is the cutest when the tights are sheer & plan with minimal patterns, then ankle socks with a nice ruffle to it.

>>7478866
I alternate between wearing it normally and doing as >>7478890 suggests every couple of hours when I start feeling pain/pressure.
I have a very small head, which actually can make it worse, because the pressure becomes less evenly distributed among the headband and is concentrated just on the ends (since the rest hardly touches my head).

>>7474401
I saw an anon refer to this in another thread and thought they were just confused until I checked the site.

>>7474410
Who knows, maybe they'll re-release that one eventually too. Claudia seems more popular overall, but long dresses are becoming a major trend lately so they might cash in on it.

Ladies that have organized group taobao orders - how do you split up shipping costs? Some people order a few light things, and others order heavier things. Obviously it's not fair to have the lightweights support the larger orders.

>>7476328
Thank you, but the e-mail adress on their site doesn't seem to work... Dayum.

>>7479993
One of my friends who do group orders weighed the items herself after it shipped to her and then just divide it up evenly (she initially paid the shipping cost herself, then give us the items after we pay our share).

>>7479993
Even split. But I'm sure to emphasize that it's not worth it to participate if all you're getting is say...a necklace or something. I make sure that the participants understand how it works and that it may not be a good deal for them.

No problems doing it that way...yet.

I didn't want to make a new thread for this, so I though it might be wisest to take this here to the General. I'm going to apologize in advance in case you guys get swamped with questions like these, but I'm an idiot noob in every sense, so please bear with. Are there any helpful resources out there for someone who is just starting to get into lolita and is learning the different sub-styles? I'm not into sweet and I definitely lean toward classic, but brand-wise and coord-wise, I know nothing. I didn't even know what JSK stood for until I googled it today. I'm ignorant, but I don't want to be an ita nightmare, so tl;dr, what are some tips or guidance you wish someone had given you when you were first starting out with lolita? Helpful tips you've picked up along the way? I'm not expecting this thread to give me a full lowdown, since I'm doing my own research too, but I'd like to hear input from people who know their stuff in addition to skimming wiki pages.

>>7480300
Start with hellolace.net and lurking.

>>7477661
Oh my fucking God, you made me laugh pretty hard. Thank you.

>>7477558
>>7477564
Yes, I posted most on Tumblr, and they are ass-patty on there. However, I have posted some on here, and people liked them despite my haircut. On top of that, I had a Hitler Youth haircut up until just recently, and all of the pictures I have taken of coords were with that haircut. So I definitely think people can work them in! Not everyone can, of course, just like not everyone can have the haircut in the first place and make it work.

Here, this is a casual coord that I still love. Hitler Youth haircut. I absolutely agree that hats look best with the short hair, but there are some bows that I have that are the perfect in between. I don't have a straight up pixie haircut though, so mine is much easier to work with.

>inb4 ur ugly ew short hair bluh

>>7480326

The short hair is cute. The suspenders are not.

>>7480326
>>7480340

Yeah. You're cute and the hair is cute but anon I am very concerned with those suspenders.

>>7479993
When I do group orders, I make a seperate spread sheet for each person and send the SS one order but split into different spreadsheets (this obviously only works with email SS, not shopping cart ones) and then I ask them to keep each order seperate to weigh them, then to give me a Total weight and shipping price. Then it's just % based. Find the % of the weight that equals each person's order, and then you'll get their shipping prices easily that way. Which means each person pays for their specific weight order and pays for it out of the total shipping price, which includes discounts for the total weight... if that makes sense.

>>7469917
tbh its not that bad as long as the brand design isnt too specific. A shooting star bag or lyrical bunny replica bag (AP) or biscuit bag (SWIMMER) would be a no-no (to me at least) while more generic designs like 3 ways bags or boston bags where only the shape is copied are more acceptable.

>>7471627 I dont find this, for example, to be acceptable, because it says INNOCENT WORLD right smack in the middle. If the name was removed it would have been fine.

tl;dr bland design ok specific design/logo fuck no

>>7476539
get them on taobao or 2nd hand AP. there are tons of great cutsews for $9 each on taobao though.

You own a gorgeous salo anon, make your coord great!

>>7480345
I loved the idea of that lady sloth suspender skirt but whhhhy those giant out of place suspenders?!

>>7478140
maybe boyfriends were permitted?

What's the difference between PAID and COMPLETED status on Paypal?

>>7476359
>using buychina despite all of cgl's warnings
you got what was coming to you

>>7480326
>>7480340
>>7480391
I thought they would be cuter than the regular Lady Sloth skirt, so I got the ones she sold with suspenders. They are big and goofy. I like them, but I also do not like them at al, y'know? They're so... Dumb. I wish they weren't so cartoonishly big, but I don't have the heart to not use them, heh.

But thank you for saying I'm cute! I was expecting general cgl anger and bitterness, so you both surprised me with that.

>>7480477
I've never seen any of buychina's warning on here. I looked up reviews and they seemed alright. Now I'm getting a 502 error on their page.

>>7480687
there used to be more vocal warnings in the taobao threads anytime someone would bring them up, but one whiny anon (who was probably buychina on anon being that they've spammed 4chan before) kept pissing and moaning about how mean we were and they used buychina just fine weh weh and somehow convinced the SS spreadsheet anon/other tb thread anons to lay off them

and this is what happens when you listen to a known shady businesses' crocodile tears...

>>7479859
Sheer tights with white polka dots + ankle socks with frills is a combo that works!

>>7481582
It actually really makes me happy you said that, I did this in one of my very first coords and I always wondered if it looked dumb.

Is there any way I could make these shoes work?