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Previously:
>>7430933

Let's discuss:
> Are there any good God Tier designs that aren't canon?
> Have you ever seen anyone cosplay an OC (a fan kid or a fan troll) to a con?

>> No.7440389
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>>7440358
There was a whole photoshoot of OCs at Katsucon 2012. I'm pretty sure Rumminov organized it.

>> No.7440428

>>7440389

I actually really like well designed fantrolls, provided the cosplayer isn't dramatastic about them. Better than tacking on 15 AU modifiers to come up with "omg most original tavros ever"

>> No.7440550

There was a small group like four fantrolls at Katsu? Nothing special, but not bad either (they seemed like young kids so i err on the side of lenience).

>>7440389
I like those! Agree that if you want to be original, a well-done fantroll is preferable to some super tacky AU any day.

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>> No.7440784

>>7440768
wish her horns were better blended. the comic-style ones look really eh to me.

>> No.7440891

>>7440358

i don't think the canon shirt goes well with the prince outfit. the rest has a more regal feel so the plain t-shirt with little easily missable slits feels out of place.

i like that eridans shirt though. it'd like the shorts better if they weren't those colors, but i know that's eridans canon fugly colorscheme so its fine.

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>>7440891
The shorts colors balance out the outfit though.

>> No.7440956

>>7440891
say what you want about dei's outfit, i think it's beautiful

>> No.7441054

>>7440941
Great outfit! But in both OP pic and this one, the face looks significantly darker than the armsocks/tights and I can't un-notice it. Dem shorts tho

>> No.7441199

>>7440956

no i agree it looks good, i just think eridans god tier color scheme is ugly. the hope color scheme in general is ugly.

>> No.7441428

>>7441054
Really? I can't tell... maybe I don't have such an eye for color, but it looks fine to me.

>> No.7441469

>>7440358
dei's eridan is one of the best i've ever seen. i seem to recall another two, one had a really stellar make up job and did the rounds on tumblr and the other i think was by the guy with the brilliant jack noir cosplayer. anyone have pictures of them? or just good eridans in general?

>> No.7441637

>>7440768
This is a really strange Vriska, like, nothing is really right with it, the eye make-up and lip shape look really weird, also that arm...

Imo i'd think she'd make a better Kanaya. Who is this anyway? I've never seen them before.

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Finally got around to updating this. Sorry for the mistake on the last one.

>> No.7442067

>>7442064
It's like this list is on the way to monotheism.

>> No.7442075

>>7442067
who do you think will be left in godtier if we're on that track?

>>7442064
has it ever been explained why cancerously is in middletier? idk but for what ever reason im grossed out by her. but i may the only person who thinks this.

>> No.7442083

>>7442075
Our one true goddess Yaexrae.

>> No.7442087

>>7442075
The list also takes into account community contribution. Which is also why Snowchildhero is on it.

Also, tutorials and whatnot.

Could we have a dump with cosplays from the names on midtier perhaps?

>> No.7442090

>>7442075
Probably because of her previous activism within the community? And her contributions to armsocks?

>> No.7442101

>>7442087
I think this is a good idea. Midtier should be cleaned out. I'm sure a lot of people could be eliminated or demoted. Just glancing over it, I think ineloquentformalities should be removed and snowchildhero and violetprince demoted to pretty tier.

>> No.7442103

>>7442075
And I've always wondered why murtunacaptor was on pretty-tier. Their costumes are eternally ill-fitted they really don't measure up to anyone else on pretty-tier.

>> No.7442109

>>7442103
Speaking of pretty tier, putting in a vote of promotion for peargirl710 and hammasrattas.

>> No.7442120

>>7442109
But Hammasratas hasn't done a lot. Most of their stuff is just simple cosplay + tons of photoshop, hence pretty tier. I do like Pearlgirl's stuff though.

>> No.7442133

>>7442120
I was just about to say this.

>> No.7442142

>>7442120
Browsing their tag, their standout cosplays are Sollux, Dreamer Sollux, Kurloz (their boots are atrocious though), and Mituna. Their Dirk and John are pretty eh, and I will gripe forever about them not removing their damn piercings in pictures, but the others look great. I don't know if I've seen a better Sollux tbh. Is there a certain number of cosplays a person needs to hit before they qualify for mid tier or do we just ballpark it?

>> No.7442155

>>7442142
Pretty-tier is for cosplayers who have good cosplays but are low in variety or are haltered by dramus etc. Quality matters less as far as I've understood it, having a bunch of good to great cosplays is more qualifying (especially if you are helpful or contribute to the community) than having one or two PERFECT costumes.

Not to mention, dreamers, ancestors, AU-designs are all more qualifying than just standard kids or trolls.

>> No.7442197

>>7442103
Gonna have to agree with this. Mur's done a lot of cosplays, but...none of them are really great. Volume is there, but quality is just not.

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I made an ancestor-only version just for shits and giggles.

Dolorosas as far as the eye can see.

>> No.7442307

>>7442300
Also a shitton of Disciples

>> No.7442325

>>7442300
Kittymaru's mindfang is fucking terrible, holy shit.

>> No.7442411

>>7442300
Wow that is a staggering divide of quality.

>> No.7442416

>>7442197
He also did that terrible bondage shoot recently. That alone pretty much demands demotion.

>> No.7442420

>>7442300
hot damn, i didn't know dei was that condense A+ to them.

>> No.7442429

>>7442300
Like others in this thread ,I don't understand why mur is even pretty tier. Their face is hideous and they have so few good cosplays...

>> No.7442432

>>7442420

I still think Dei (and Kisbe) have the construction to warrent god tier

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>>7442432
Construction, perhaps. The quantity and community contribution? Not so much as far as I know.

>> No.7442439

>>7442432
God tier is more than construction though, it's helpfulness and community involvement too. I still miss Our Lord Cifera when it comes to coshelp. What has Dei even done besides Eridan, GT Eridan, and Condesce? Three cosplays isn't enough.

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>>7442300
man, ss looks so glum in that picture. she's usually smiling.

>> No.7442451

>>7442437
>>7442439
Is Yaexrae super involved in her community? I never see her posting about stuff like that.

>> No.7442452

>>7442416
Ah yes, the clothed shibari shoot where the Dave cosplayer wanted to remain anonymous. I got so much secondhand embarrassment from that. That's the kind of shit I expect from stuckaboos or attention whores, not established cosplayers.

>> No.7442456

>>7442451
Not sure about community, but she's extremely helpful and is a goddess with her helpful tutorials. I don't think community involvement is that much of a factor. A lot of us really don't want to go to local homestuck meets or have time to organize homestuck events.

>> No.7442457

>>7442451
She just posted a tutorial about lace fronts and that's the impression I've got. I'm not American so it's a little hard for me to judge.

And either way the quality of her cosplays are still high enough to put her leagues above most other cosplayers in this fandom.

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>>7442451
Maybe not in the terms of Homestuck, but anytime Yaexrae makes anything, you can bet your ass she's putting together a tutorial and how to do it. She regularly answers asks on how her things are made- even made a darling tutorial on buttons.

So while community-wise in the sense of meetups and so on, she's not as active as say, cancerously was, she's massively contributed to making Homestucks better overall cosplayers.

Also, look at this shit. For her Elsa, she's making her goddamn sequins. Making them.

>> No.7442468

>>7442463
Still voting for Yaexrae as the only God Tier.

>> No.7442472

>>7442463
Sage for not homestuck, but did you see her progress on her cape? With the glass bits (I forget the proper term for them)? It is absolutely stunning. She's going to be a phenomenal Elsa.

>> No.7442473

>>7442468
Yaexrae has always been in her own tier, as far as I'm concerned. CBC is helpful and talented, but she's still leagues above them.

>> No.7442527

>>7442452
>implying mur is an "established" cosplayer

>> No.7442593

>>7442463
>>7442472
Also sage but I agree that she will be phenomenal and probably the best Elsa out there. Another Homestuck cosplayer is cosplaying Anna with her snowchildhero and I think they will be lovely.

>> No.7442644

>>7442468
Yaexrea is a queen but to be honest she doesn't seem to be into homestuck anymore. What was the last HS cosplay she made? The last one I remember was her fancy Kanaya but that was over a year ago.

>> No.7442660

>>7442644
A lot of BNFs are either taking a break from HS or left altogether. It's nice to take a break from grey makeup. And frankly, to take a break from the bullshit that gets slung around about Homestuck and its cosplayers.

>> No.7442675

>>7442660
I agree but the list is for active homestucks. There's a reason Cifera was eventually dropped even though she's still a popular cosplayer. I'd rather see people like dei and kisbe boosted up since they're still coming out with new material. The inactive cosplayers need to be cleared out of midtier too.

>> No.7442706

>>7442675
I'm just not ready to let her go. She did stuff for Otakon. Otakon was recent. Otakon counts.

>> No.7442710

>>7442706
What did she do for Otakon, again?

>> No.7442718

>>7442706
Otakon was 8 months ago but I don't want her dropped either! I just think there's something to be said about adding/promoting active homestucks since everyone complains all the time about the fandom dying.

>> No.7442727

>>7442706
I'm not ready to let her go either. Maybe this is just me, but unlike Cifera, at least Yaexrae still has a homestuck cosplay as her sidebar. There's still at least some chance she'll do something else, whereas Cifera is pretty much guaranteed not to come back unless Beforus Aradia is revealed.

>> No.7442741

>>7442727
Agreed. A lot of the other BNFs are moving to SNK now, and that's the common sidebar pic. Dersedreamer and gomugomugodhead have outright stated they won't be making anything new for Homestuck, and that they probably won't grey up ever again even if they do revisit HS cosplay. I think a lot of the mid tiers (ceriene, etc) are on the same route. Sad stuff.

>> No.7442765

>>7442083
>first I laughed
>then I started crying because it's true

>happy tears tho

>> No.7442770

>>7440956
>>7441469
>>7442420
>>7442675
Dei-sandvich and Kisbe are nowhere near matching Yaexrae or Cowbuttcrunchies in contributions -- thoroughly answering asks, providing a lot of information and tips on construction and cosplay, making tutorials. They're good cosplayers, yes, but right now their cosplay is a pretty one-sided exchange: they make nice outfits and receive acknowledgements.

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Tonight, on Guess Which Character This Dress is For

>> No.7442778
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please no

>> No.7442788

>>7442774
...jade? young handmaid?

>> No.7442791

>>7442774
The design is hideous but goddamn those ruffles look hella nice.

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>>7442788
>calliope

>>7442791
Aghh, I know! Construction looks really clean and would be promising if only the person had used a better design instead of making their own. Dem clashing shades of green. :(

>> No.7442926

>>7442800
Hmm. I was thinking Jadesprite.
Oof, it's even worse from the back. Jeez, the checkered parts. They could've used the accent colors from Callie Ohpeee but no, we get clashing shades of green, a random awkward white ruffle and checkerboard bits. That craftmanship is incredible tho

>> No.7442928

>>7442741
I'm not going to pretend it's not disappointing, but I completely understand if people are tired of the fucking grey after 2-3 years of it. It's just such a pain in the ass.

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>>7442300
I had fun making the last one, so here's another themed list. This time, god tiers. If anyone knows if I missed a cosplay from Gothichamlet or Pearlgirl710 please let me know.

>> No.7442956

>>7442947
Pyropi has such an adorable smile... though urgh the overly ruffled fancy god tiers are so bulky and unflattering. I personally love these themed lists!

>> No.7443031

I know there's been talk of weeding out midtier, but what if we split midtier into lower-mid and upper-mid? Then cosplayers like dei, kisbe, and pyropi could still be moved up into upper-mid, while people whose comm involvement outweighs their quality could stay in lower mid, like snowchildhero and cancerously.

>> No.7443061

>>7442947
Cancerously looks so bad.

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>>7442947
Ahhhhh I hadn't known Ceriene had busted out a GT Jade!

>then I searched through all 15 pages of her "jade+harley" tag and started in the first couple pages of her cosplay tag
>before remembering that she has a cosplay site
>good at internet

Ears look a bit large, but she's also super cute and the photo looks really promising! (apparently part of a shoot with full beta GT set)

>>7443031
Splitting mid-tier (or "boy-skylarks," i c u there o clever listanon) into two more categories sounds good -- but maybe avoid the hubbub of "[x] deserves a higher placement" by just dropping "CRAFTSMANSHIP" and "COMMUNITY" subcategories under the already-existing tier? And then arbitrarily sort people in.

Pic unrelated to Homestuck, but it's a gem of CBC being elegant mofos at a shoot.

>> No.7443097

>>7443087
That's an excellent suggestion. After I made my first post it occurred to me it might be easier just to make "Community Involvement" its own separate category and leave midtier as is. That said - and I'm not sure if any other anons feel this way - I don't really care about community involvement as a ticket to tiering. I think it really should be based on quality and helpfulness (that being especially relevant for the god tiers), with definite emphasis on craftsmanship. To me, community organization is pretty unimportant.

>> No.7443106

>>7443097
I agree. If people have a terrible attitude then that should block them from moving up, but community involvement seems a bit irrelevant.

>> No.7443132

>>7443097
Also agreed. I don't participate in community things really, so community involvement means fuck all to me. People who go to those community events likely already know who the big organizers are anyway without a list on cgl to tell them.

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>>7443087
Addendum: How about also starting a "milestones" or "defunct" designation for cosplayers who were once super prolific in HS but have moved on to other things?

- Cifera made significant contributions to HS cosplay (putting out the first good 'bot and fancy dreamer cosplays, keeping the asks and tutorials on damaramegido after she left), and she was an early marker of how good this fandom could be.

- Silencedrowns had the first well-explained greying up walkthrough (that is my go-to video that I refer to makeup novices) and a few really good Makara cosplays, though I don't know if that would qualify her for inclusion (I'm in favour).

- People like Cancerously, Seerofsarcasm, Catw1ngs, Dersedreamer, and Gomugomugodhead could be added to that tier as they ease out of HS cosplay. ***came up with these names off the top of my head; ie, people that I don't recall seeing active in the last few months.

>> No.7443159

>>7443137
That would crowd and overcomplicate the list so much. We already have trouble with four categories.

>> No.7443185

>>7443137
I vote for keeping these three but adding a tier for names which are good to know and have a nice archive but have dropped out of the fandom. Such as damaramegido and silencedrowns and eventually also yaexrae it it comes to that.

I also vote for making yaexrae the patron saint of homestuck cosplay.

>> No.7443186

>>7442300
*witty joke about the three gt's being the three most prominent religious figures in troll history*

Tbh I think it really sort of suit them.

>> No.7443294

>>7443137
>>7443159
More than four or five tiers is a lot. Is there space below the photo to write something like patron saint or upper tier? If we do that to designate upper/lower midtier then there'd be room for a retired/inactive section.

>> No.7443315

>>7443294
Put a halo on 'em.

>> No.7443407

>>7443031
Agree that dei, kisbe, and pyropi should be upper mid tier. Also voting for ceriene and to move pearlgirl into lower mid tier. I would say vintage-aerith should be moved up but I dont think she's made anything new for forever. How many months should we wait before we start moving inactive people down? A year?

>> No.7443431

It's also worth noting that some people are waiting to do stuff after the last update. So it'd suck to move them down.

>> No.7443450

>>7443431
Who's said they're planning new cosplays? It'd be nice to see some more BNF activity. Right now it seems like there's only a handful of them making new stuff.

>> No.7443454

>>7443431
Yeah let's drop inactive people down a tier instead of removing them. That's what we did for ceriene.

>> No.7443455

>>7443137
This isn't a BNF list though, it's a who-to-follow list. We all know Cifera and Silencedrowns and they were very prolific and all that but they've moved on to other things. I honestly see no point trying to bring them back to the list when they have no interest in Homestuck anymore.

Plus we've got enough crowding on that list as it is.

>> No.7443461

>>7443455
For people who have outright stated they're never gonna do it again, then yeah. But for a lot of them, they said they're still interested but doing other things till the last update.

That said, I'm fairly certain cancerously isn't doing Homestuck stuff anymore. She doesn't organize community things.

>> No.7443467

>>7442774
the crotch window strikes again!

>> No.7443473

>>7443455
Seconding this. Anon said it all.

>> No.7443523

>>7443461
Plenty of inactive people never said they're quitting the fandom... They just move on. Unless you're taking a BNF poll, number of months since the last cosplay is a better activity measure. I think a year without a new cosplay is a good indication of who is no longer in the fandom. The comic hasn't been on hiatus nearly that long.

>> No.7443526

>>7443455
Agreed. If the fandom experiences a resurgence after the game comes out, since the final update won't draw a crowd that hasn't already been following the comic, THEN we should make an Honorable Mention tier for people who made great contributions but aren't active. But as for right now, I don't think there's a single even remotely serious cosplayer who doesn't know those two names.

If we're all willing to strike community involvement as something that would warrant tiering, that would eliminate people who were tiered almost solely because of that, ie cancerously and snowchildhero, possibly seerofsarcasm.

So far we've cut Mur from pretty tier. Catw1ngs hasn't put out any new Homestuck stuff in 11 months. If we're gonna start scaling the list down, we need to go through each person on there and rifle through their cosplays. I dont know if HSG has the patience or the dedication for it, tbh.

>> No.7443534

>>7443526
Gonna amend that to a year, since the tumblr date was 11 months but it was for 4/13 and that's only three weeks away. Sage because I didn't crunch the dates on that sooner.

>> No.7443545

>>7443526
I'm bostonstuck trash and at a convention now but I could help crunch some numbers later. If a list of dates and costumes numbers is what it takes to stop talking in circles then its worth it.

>> No.7443571

>>7443545
>bostonstuck trash
You have redeemed yourself, gracious anon. Okay, let's do it. I'll nick myself later when I post tier summaries so we don't fall into the "lol samefag" trap and just get everything derailed. I'll try to get a few cosplayers posted up for discussion in the meantime.

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Starting from the bottom.

>kitty-maru

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Dragon Mom (pic related)
GT-Dirk
Dirk, standard ver. + Letterman jacket, Also gas mask ver. and beheaded!
Western!Dave
Derse Dreamer Dave (alternate outfit)
Steampunk!Mindfang
Punk!Karkat
Davesprite
Rule 63 Roxy
Magicastuck Dave
Trekstuck Dirk Strider
GT-Dave
Homura Strider (???)
Vriska Serket
Alpha Dave
Rule 63 Dave
Trickster Dirk
Potterstuck Dirk

>Last Cosplay
Dragonmom in February

>Additional Notes
Did Terezi in that one pretty well known panel (Bucket Full of Homestuck Act II)
Has a homestuck cosplay picture as their sidebar.
Their main quality as far as I can tell is their sewing skills. Over all their cosplays vary between above-average to pretty good. It's visible how they've improved over the year. They have photoshoot pictures of all their recent cosplays with clear details. As far as I can tell they don't post a whole lot of tutorials or cosplay help.

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>>7443578

>harshwhimsical

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
GT-Gamzee
Sober Gamzee
Gamzee
Gamzee in Dave's clothing (pic related)

>Last Cosplay
They posted a photoset with their GT-Gamzee two weeks ago but the cosplay is older

>Additional notes
Their cosplay tag is composed of nice and clean pictures of their cosplay but the only thing they've really sewn in homestuck way over the past year is their GT-Gamzee which Is clean enough.
They are however in the top tier of gamzee wigs and make up and look really clean.
The only Homestuck cosplay not Gamzee seems to be Kurloz a little over a year ago.
Other than that they are however pretty well known because they have a high amount of in-cosplay pictures with nice spread in the fandom. If there is a gamzee dump they're guaranteed to be in it. But it's a pretty anonymous cosplay.

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>>7443604

>hammasratas

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Sollux
Derse Dreamer Sollux
Dirk
GT-John
The Psiioniic
Kurloz
John
Gamzee

>Last Cosplay
A shoot they did of their Sollux along with an Eridan cosplayer two weeks ago.

>Additional notes
They're really not all that great. They're attractive and their costumes are clean but that's about it. As far as I know they were put on the list due to their Psiioniic, which is good but it's not enough to warrant a spot on the list in my opinion. They use a lot of photoshop but it doesn't look stupid. They are willing to answer questions and I think they could become relevant if they make more cosplays of their own. Basically just nice, clean shots but not much more and not very interesting.

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>>7443617

>pearlgirl710 (seclusionsalad)

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Jadesprite
Winter Coat Aranea
His Disciple
Alternate outfit Rose
Aranea
Jade

>Last Cosplay
Jadesprite at Katsucon (two weeks ago)

>Additional Notes
Seclusionsalad is their tumblr for cosplay and all things related. They're all in all very clean and I'm personally interested in seeing what they're doing in the future. They also made the catsuit for that one condesce (thepattywagon). According to their personal blog they're definitely going to do more Homestuck, and they also do cosplay photography and art and stuff. It also seems they're very happy to help, if nothing else by sharing other people's references and tutorials on their cosplay blog.

>> No.7443644

Dang do you work fast, bostonstuck-kun. If you want to finish up pretty tier, we can let that sit for a while and then I can start on midtier, if that works for you.

>> No.7443648

>>7443634
Pearlgirl does great work, is pretty friendly/drama-free, and she just keeps getting better and better. I'd be in support of moving her up tbh, but I'm not totally sure what the criteria is, maybe she doesn't have enough cosplays yet?

>> No.7443653

>>7443634

>gomugomugodhead (angryjaeger)

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Derse Dreamer Dave
GT-Dave
Alpha Dave
Karkat
Jake
Troll!Dave
Kidswap Dave
Feferi

>Last Cosplay
A Davekat shoot about two weeks ago

>Additional Notes
I hate their theme. All their cosplay tag as of late is Attack On Titan and their cosplays aren't really noteworthy as much as clean. They do have a well-stocked FAQ on the topic of Homestuck. But in general I can't say they're that interesting as much as they are solid.

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>>7443644
Actually I'm not Boston-kun I'm just a friendly passerby. I'll finish up pretty-tier and might go on with midtier.

>>7443648
I would say it's a matter of not having enough cosplays. I'd say we wait until her next one and decide then.

>>7443653
Dropped the pic.

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>>7443654

>murtunacaptor

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Some Sort Of Kingly AU!John
GT-John
Crockertier John
John + John with the jacket his dreambubble self wore when he met Vriska + Spades shirt John
Erisolsprite
BRSstuck John
Sollux
Ecto Biologist John
Madokastuck John
The Psiioniic
GT Trickster John
Trickster John
Jake
GT-Sollux
(The Pokémon fandom)

>Last Cosplay
A Davejohn shoot from Katsu (two weeks) with "royal" costumes inspired by a fanfic.

>Additional Notes
According to their "one year of cosplay"-post they will continue with Homestuck. Namely propwork and their John-bingo. Their propwork is also their main strength. They're doing pretty well on the pretty-tier in my opinion and are good with expressions, even though their photoshoots are hardly anything special. Their sewing skills are so-so. They do a LOT of cosplay outside homestuck.

>> No.7443687

>>7443680
People complain about Mur every single time list discussion comes up. I think we need to remove him, and a lot of anons have expressed that they feel the same way. With a terrible John wig and cosplays that consistently fit poorly and look bad on him, he's a perfect example of quantity over quality. I thought the decision to dump him had already been made.

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>>7443680

>mostflogged

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Ballgown Dreamer Roxy
Trickster Roxy
Bunnysuit Roxy
Mom Lalonde
Knit Dress Roxy
Kimono??? Roxy
Some Sort Of Demon??? Roxy
Roxy
A Shitton Of Other Roxys

>Last Cosplay
Ballgown Dreamer Roxy for Katsucon if I'm not mistaken (two weeks ago)

>Additional Notes
Oh my god this theme. I don't know there's not a lot to say about this lady. Her technical skill is great when she put it to use and she's fairly helpful but is kept back by laziness and drama. There's not actually a lot of photoshoots as of late.

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>>7443704

>dei-sandvich

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Some Sort Of Fancy Mituna
Condesce
Eridan Ampora (+ some sort of casual variant with the Aquarius shades)
March Eridan
Fancily Dressed Eridan
Rose
Wwizard Eridan
Fancy-Tier Eridan

>Last Cosplay
Mituna together with Kisbe's Cronus for some sort of valentines thing two weeks ago

>Additional Notes
Very skilled in craftmanship. I haven't seen a lot of tutorials from them but they DO answer questions regarding cosplay (more as of late). I don't know if they're going to do more Homestuck during 2014 but if they do (especially more varied costumes) I honestly believe they could be bumped to God Tier.
Question: I'm assuming they and Kisbe are an item? I may be wrong but that's my impression.

>> No.7443778

>>7443773
They're married I think

>> No.7443784

>>7443704
at this point id even be okay with taking mostflogged off. just fuck it. fuck it all.

>> No.7443807

>>7443784
Shhhh calm down anon take a deep breath

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>>7443773

>kisbe

>HS-Cospley over the past year
Valentines Dance Fancy Cronus Something
Helmsman
Bee Outfit!Mituna
Cronus
Sollux (+ Blind ver. + Some Sort Of Casual Thing + Then Some)
Fancily Dressed Sollux
Fancy-Tier Sollux
Kanaya

>Last Cosplay
Cronus together with Dei-sandvich's Mituna for some sort of valentines thing two weeks ago

>Additional Notes
Man I can't even tell who does which when it comes to Kisbe and Dei. Okay but really, this guy is pretty skilled. I don't really have a lot to say, I don't like their theme.
IMO, if we're moving either of Kisbe or Dei-sandvich up we need to move both. It seems they do basically all their costumes together now. I'm not sure yet since they don't seem to do a lot of like, actual cosplay help in the way CBC do, but if they do come out with more Homestuck I would say it is still an option.

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>>7443778
Ah man that's really cute.
Not even joking, I'm sort of jelly.

>> No.7443845

>>7443809
Im a little confused/stupid (i'll got with the latter), is kisbe a guy or a girl? They look like a guy in cronus but then the kanaya is tripping me up.

I'm just going to guess that they're a girl who's really good at crossplaying.

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>>7443812

>dersedreamer (davesprite.com)

(A note before we start: their theme is awful and I can't click on shit so I'm not going to go super investigation)

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
GT-Dave
I Think They Might Have Done A Promstuck Terezi But I Really Can't Tell If That's Them Because I Can't Check It With This Stupid theme
Davesprite
Sollux
Jake? (I thought Jake was Gomu but it seems I was wrong and Gomu was Jake you know what I should have done these two together)
Humanstuck Karkat (unless they are Troll!Dave and Gomu is Karkat? Which would make sense because Gomu cosplay Karkat which Davesprite doesn't? But they both cosplay Dave and my face memory is awful. Actually no wait I think they did humanstuck Karkat)
Either Kidswap John Or Dave I Seriously Can't Tell Who Is Who And Neither Type It Out And I Can't Open The Fucking Post Because Of This Theme
John
GT-John
Derse Dreamer Dirk (???)

>Last Cosplay
Seems to be a GT-Dave they did together two months ago with Gomugomugodhead (I wrote earlier that Gomu was the one to do GT Dave, which was wrong but I can't fucking tell with the thEME OF THESE TWO JESUS CHRIST)

>Additional Notes
JESUS CHRIST THIS THEME IS AWFUL THERES A HUGE ATTACK ON TITAN IN THE WAY AND I CAN'T CLICK ON ANYTHING.
AFTER GOING THROUGH THEIR TAG I'M SO MAD I CAN'T TELL THEM AND GOMU APART.

Either way both Gomu and Davesprite has AOT as their sidebar and theme, Gomu has a AOT url and I can't seem to find anything saying they have Homestuck stuff left to do rather than just rewearing.
Their cosplays are clean but that's about it other than Davesprite.
They have a cosplay FAQ.

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>>7443846

>ineloquentformalities

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Meenah
Kanaya

>Last Cosplay
Meenah from ALA, so January.

>Additional Notes
Are part of Arda's iron-wig competition. Made Scratchman (the LE of the felt group)'s costume. It's a good year since then though. They're seemingly helpful but I can't say their cosplays are much more than above average and the only thing really notable is their Stitch, and even then there's just not a whole lot to compare that one to.

Also I need to disappear for a little. I'll be back and continue later.

>> No.7443864

>>7443861
Their cosplays are so unremarkable in every way. I can't believe they made the tier list at all.
>dat kanaya wig
>dose seadweller fins
Voting for removal.

>> No.7443869

It should also be noted that for most of these people I don't go deeper than a year. If yoy haven't done Homestuck in more then a year you're hardly relevant, even if you did help back then because by now the fandom has moved on to other stuff and new techniques.

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>>7443861

>catw1ngs

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
GT-John

>Last Cosplay
Their Upd8 cosplay for 413 2013 (pic related)

>Additional Notes
Eh. They uploaded an old picture of their John three months ago but for one thing it seems they haven't cosplayed AT ALL during the past year and for another their next in the works is from KLK. I don't think they'll get back into Homestuck cosplay, especially not when there's no HS content on their blog whatsoever during the past week.

(this is the last one for now, I promise)

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>>7443185
>I also vote for making yaexrae the patron saint of homestuck cosplay.

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Crunchy anon, you rock.

And now for an interlude in a lesson of Why Eye Makeup is Important

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>>7443908

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>>7443911
It was a two-picture lesson, welp.

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>> No.7443916

>>7443908
...Where are her eyebrows?

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>> No.7443958

>>7443908
Thank you!

>>7443923
Why this.

>> No.7444000

>>7443888

>jadeb0t

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Aradia
Feferi
Disciple
Roxy
Damara
Dirk
Ballgown Dreamer Roxy
Punk Tier Rose

>Last Cosplay
An Aradia photoshoot together with Failmacaw as Equius. Five (six?) months ago.

>Additional Notes
They have a clear blog with links for Cosplay and Progress and I'm very thankful for this after some of the other blogs.
This is a really good cosplayer, really. Though it seems they've sold off most of their HS cosplay. If they come back I can bet you that it'll be with new content and in that case probably after the FINAL UPDATE. I'm also being a little generous with the cosplays they've done, going a week or two back. I'd say they're worth following if you're into their other cosplay.

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>>7444000
Dropped the pic.

>> No.7444011

>>7443812
They're adorable, I love couples that cosplay together

>> No.7444015

>>7444006
Ew obvious armsocks and centipede horns. BUT I do like her other cosplays, just not really this one.

>> No.7444023

>>7444015
Yeah, she does not make a good Aradia at all. If they've sold off most of their stuff, is it worth keeping them on? Should we off them and add them back if they start cosplaying Homestuck again? Drop them to pretty tier?

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>>7444000

>violetprince

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Eridan
Roxy
Disciple
Jaspersprite
Rule 63 Eridan
Meulin
Nepeta
Fancy Roxy

>Last Cosplay
GT-Dave in January. I don't know for what though since it's just a selfie without context. Last "serious" picture is their Eridan along with Virulentmalapropisms as Feferi from December

>Additional Notes
Was also part of A Bucket Full Of Homestuck (as Eridan), they do have a cosplay help-tag but it's mostly other people's advice (though they don't seem hesitant to answer questions). I'd say keep her on, she still reblog Homestuck so I wouldn't say it's all that unlikely for her to get back into it. Quality-wise her cosplays are good, there's only so much you can do with the simpler ones but her more advanced ones are all well put together.

>> No.7444103

>>7444034

>seerofsarcasm

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Humanstuck Vriska
Pir8 Vriska
Roxy
Kanaya
Andrew Hussie
GT-Kurloz
Street-Tier Tavrisprite
(Homestuck Fandom)

>Last Cosplay
Humanstuck Vriska in December together with Cancerously.

>Additional Notes
Snarky as ever and unlikely to get back into Homestuck before the UPD8, judging by their posts. Also they post A LOT. Sixteen pages back and I'd gone a week down. They recently sold off all their past Homestuck due to moving so if they return to the fandom it's because they've made something new, which right now looks pretty unlikely. They used to organize shoots to my knowledge but are no longer involved with that so there's that.

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>>7444103
(Please ignore how I am getting sloppier with these by the post)

Bonus Murtuna!

Also I think it is worth noting that Seer doesn't put nearly as much effort into her Homestuck cosplays.

>> No.7444118

>>7443932
/r/ing some more Trickster Dirk cosplays?

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>>7444103

>snowchildhero

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Jedistuck Vriska
Potterstuck Feferi
(Humanstuck Renfair Dualscar)
Mindfang Dress Aranea
(Humanstuck Renfair Kanaya)
Potterstuck Aranea
The Dolorosa
Aranea
Prom-Tier Aranea
Winter Coat Aranea

>Last Cosplay
Jedistuck Vriska together with CBC etc. for Katsucon.

>Additional Notes
A LOT of community contribution, but also quite a bit of cosplay help. I have to say that she is very clean in her sewing and I dare say she's a fair bit above average in that aspect. Her cosplay quality isn't quite up there with Dei-Sandvich or the other high tiers but she's stable and I do think she has earned a spot on the list. Frequently posts WIPs too.

>> No.7444137

>>7444103
seerofsarcasm was originally included because of their shoot organization iirc, their cosplays arent that great compared to other people who have done the same characters

>>7444130
she's done a lot in the way of community stuff but god, her cosplays are just so fucking ugly. i can't get past it.

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>>7444130

>cancerously

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Witch of Mind (Personal God Tier)
Rose (Cosplay was made by Vintage-Aerith)
Humanstuck Terezi
GT-Jade
Fantroll
Terezi
Street-Tier Jadesprite
Humanstuck 50'sstuck Meulin

>Last Cosplay
Personal God Tier at Katsucon.

>Additional Notes
Why don't they have a direct link to their cosplay tag argh. Either way, Cancerously is mainly on the list for community contribution and cosplay help. She's not bad but she's pretty average. Her blog is still Homestuck Themed and she still attend Homestuck events, so chances are there's just not anything she's interested in doing at the moment. Whether she's still active in arranging things for the moment I'm not sure.

>> No.7444166

>>7443925
The sprite is right there to tell me that their bangs are far too long

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>>7444160

>vantasticmess

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Code Sburb Prince Of Blood Suzaku
Twilight Town AU Dave
GT-Dave
Signless
Humanstuck Renfair Karkat
Promstuck Fancy Karkat
Dave
Karkat
Humanstuck 50'sstuck Kankri
Humanstuck 50'sstuck Porrim

>Last Cosplay
Their Code Geass/Homestuck Crossover from katsucon together with Knightarcana, Seerofsarcasm and Shinjaninja

>Additional Notes
They don't have anything planned as far as Homestuck Cosplay goes, but who knows man.
They also answer cosplay advice and shit, their cosplays are pretty stable but I can't say I'm completely wooed by them and it's mostly simpler characters in AU settings. They've done shoots but nothing particularly interesting since they did the beta kids group shots with vintage-aerith etc.

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>>7444200

>saccharinesylph

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Fefetasprite
Fancy Trickster Jane
GT-Meulin
Meulin
Beforus Feferi

>Last Cosplay
Fefetasprite last month at Katsu

>Additional Notes
Saccharinesylph has some pretty damn good craftmanship, but there are very few final shots of the cosplays. At least in their tag. To be fair I think they need more finished shots to remain in their current tier. They may contribute by cosplay help or to the community but I do not know of this and there are no links about that on their page. They show no sign of having lost interest in the fandom though.

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>>7444216

>Pyropi

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Trekstuck Terezi
Jedistuck Terezi
Terezi
Gamzee
GT-John
Derbystuck Terezi
Potterstuck Terezi
Beach Latula
Mindfang
Palacestuck Sollux
Barstuck Fancy Terezi
Dersite
Humanstuck 50'sstuck Latula
Karkat
Rule 63 Terezi
Fantroll
More Fancy Latula
Potterstuck Sollux
Sollux
GT John

>Last Cosplay
Terezi The Crossover Pyrope at Katsu

>Additional Notes
Pyropi's got a massive output of clean and good quality cosplays and also does a lot of cosplay tutorial help stuff such as the PAX-tutorial. They're also active in a more international community with Derbystuck and other AU's which keep the fandom alive. Honestly, I find that they're almost good enough to bump up but I feel as if they're perhaps lacking more intricate costumes (eg. fancy smanchy dreamers, GT's and ancestor outfits) and perhaps propwork but other than that they're really up there.

>> No.7444239

I'm just going to take a moment and say that y'all better make something out of this Jesus Christ.

>> No.7444249

>>7444000
Didn't she state that she would be done with Homestuck after her last cosplay? I could be mistaken and thinking that her Equius said that though.

>> No.7444268

>>7444249
I remember that too tbh.

>> No.7444276

>>7444249
Then we should nix her, and catw1ngs too. I would drop dersedreamer down to pretty tier since she's said she won't be doing anything new too.

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>>7444235

>ceriene

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Eridan
Grimdark Rose
Signless
GT-Jade
Humanstuck Terezi
Karkat
Mindfang
Tavrisprite
Fairy Vriska
Jake
Spidermom
Fancy Promstuck Meenah Idek Man
Meenah
Fancy Prospit Dreamer Vriska
Rule 63 Feferi

>Last Cosplay
Eridan, last month.

>Additional Notes
There is a bunch of cosplay help in her FAQ, and though she still seems active to me I don't follow a lot of these people. Eh. If she is still active she definitely fill what is asked of midtier.

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>>7444283
(Can you tell this is starting to get to me?)

>virulentmalapropisms

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Feferi
GT-Rose
FLARP-Terezi
Latula
Hitmanstuck Feferi

>Last Cosplay
Feferi together with Violetprince as far as I can tell. Three months ago.

>Additional Notes
They don't really do a lot of cosplay help at all, and frankly I find it hard to judge their cosplay quality from the pictures in their tag. It all looks clean but there's nothing very impressive Homestuck wise. They do however get points for a easily organized blog. There's a unfinished trickster Roxy from six months back in their cosplay tag (also they just commented on it) and they do reblog Homestuck.

>> No.7444319

>>7444249
It was Failmacaw who said that she that is done with Homestuck.

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>>7444306

>papayamaryam

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Kanaya
Trickster Jane
GT-Jade
Nepeta
Green Dress Kanaya
Rose
John
Hitmanstuck Eridan
Fancy Promstuck Bluh Bluh Kanaya

>Last Cosplay
Kanaya together with Sassyporrim's Rose, two months ago

>Additional Notes
I have literally nothing to say. She's fourteen. She's good. She's got a kind FAQ. IDEK man.

>> No.7444352

Holy shit crunchy anon you're amazing. I'm still at my convention but I promise I'll compile more or put all this into a chart. There's no way to top this though wow.

>> No.7444362

>>7444239
You should record all of this somewhere else too so it doesn't get lost.

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>>7444330

>vintage-aerith

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
GT-Rose
Dolorosa
Humanstuck Vriska
FLARP-Terezi
Kanaya

>Last Cosplay
GT-Rose with their Beta-kid group (Knightarcana, Vantasticmess, Swinky) for a shoot, four months ago

>Additional Notes
They have no planned Homestuck cosplays even in their distant plans. Overall they're good, but nothing too impressive. I find them mostly notable for having one of few decent humanstuck cosplays out there.

>> No.7444382

>>7444352
>>7444362
Ah thanks, it ended up taking a lot longer time than I thought it would haha.
I would really appreciate it if someone else archived this because I'm really just trying to get it done. I have a few names I ran into which I thought might be interesting to check out if we wanted new names but I'll do that tomorrow.

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>>7444382

>katspaw

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Kanaya
Sollux
The Dolorosa
Karkat

>Last Cosplay
A rosemary shoot with Ceriene as Grimdark Rose, three months

>Additional Notes
They have sollux as their sidebar image and their blog is still mostly Homestuck-themed. I really doubt all their cosplays are in their tag though. Either way, they aren't easily available and there aren't any advice. Honestly it's too little to go on, they might be great but there's no real way to check. Based on what's available on their blog I'd say poke them out entirely because right now it just looks like they're on the list because they're friends with Ceriene.

>> No.7444406

Okay that's all I'm doing for now. I think we can all agree on CBC's and Yaexraes placement so the only real reason to do this with them would be for the numbers and comparsion (which would probably be healthy but I'm not doing that right now).

If there's any URL you want me to check out just dump it and I'll do another one of these tomorrow.

>> No.7444409

>>7444382
Crunchy anon I salute you. You not only put a lot of work into this but were over all fair and unbiased. The is is supposed to be who to follow and you judged on content and how easily you can find info on the blog rather than on popularity.

I am curious if you would share if there is anyone you personally followed before all of this, anyone you follow now, and what other names you've got for us,

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>>7444409
Ah man, I do actually follow Yaexrae, CBC, Snowchildhero and Pyropi. I'm not much into anime so there's no real reason for me to follow a lot of the other people. Though I DID actually follow Dei and Kisbe after this and I'm considering following pearlgirl. We'll see. To me it's not just about quality but also about their presence on your dashboard. Someone like Seerofsarcasm may be a great cosplayer but if you want a cosplay dashboard they might clutter it terribly. Pyropi is nice to follow because even when the cosplays aren't the most advanced it's always fun to see people being up to stuff and participating in the fandom. On top of that they and CBC get so many people along with them on the things they do and that's always enjoyable to watch.

But really, I'm glad it was appreciated. I tried my best!

>> No.7444470

>>7444422
Okay so, to summarize here are all the suggestions made by anons thus far during the discussion about tier placement. I tried to get all of them, but there was a lot to read, so I might have missed one or two. Some of these points are synthesized from Crunchy Anon's summaries and others were outright published by other anons.

- demote snowchildhero to pretty tier
- demote violetprince to pretty tier
- remove murtunacaptor from pretty tier, brought up by multiple anons
- potentially promote pearlgirl710 to midtier, brought up twice
- promote hammasratas to midtier
- remove catw1ngs due to inactivity, brought up by one anon and mentioned again by crunchyanon
- remove hammasratas (see crunchyanon's additional notes)
- remove mostflogged, no reason given
- remove ineloquentformalities, brought up twice
- remove jadeb0t due to (possible) inactivity
- move saccharinesylph to pretty tier (see crunchyanon's notes)
- possibly remove vintage-aerith due to no future planned HS cosplays (see crunchyanon's notes)
- remove katspaw (see crunchyanon's notes)

Suggestions regarding the list itself:
- split midtier into high-mid and low-mid
- split midtier into craftsmanship and community
- disregard community involvement as a factor for list placement or promotion
- include an honorable mention archive for cosplayers that no longer contribute to homestuck cosplay

Ooookay. Whew. That's a lot. A big thank you to Crunchy Anon for all their help, it was seriously invaluable. Obviously no suggestions will be implemented unless there's consensus, so discuss away HSG! So far, I'd say hammasratas' promotion was nixed and that mur was voted out, but the more anons who share their opinions, the better.

>> No.7444473

>>7444330
i always laugh when i see sassyporrim's url on tumblr cause she is always the unimportant sidekick of papayamaryam

>> No.7444484

>>7444470
Damn, I knew I missed one. Sage because I should have double checked. Tack a third vote onto catw1ngs' removal, the same anon who brought up this next point supported their exclusion as well.
- move dersedreamer to pretty tier due to lack of future HS cosplay plans.

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>>7444216
Lilla/Saccharinesylph REALLY knows her way around fabric, actually takes constructive criticism, and will take both appearance and accuracy into account when working. She's also one of the nicest and most down-to-earth BNFs on the Eastern con circuit, and has planned multiple events keeping drama to a minimum (including the fuckhuge drawmeet at Otakon; she personally apologized about the drunk person's disruptive behavior afterwards and felt really bad about it, but I and most other people had a nice time, and she actually went around talking to as many people as possible/making them feel included and giving away mini-prints. How are you supposed to keep an eye on 200+ Homestucks, anyway...?) She doesn't always take/reblog good pictures of her finished cosplays, but I'm sure they're out there somewhere -- here's a nice one of Beforus Fef. I'm absolutely not in favor of bumping her down a tier, if that's what you're thinking.

Sorry for writing a freaking novel, she's just...in the top tier of good personalities as far as homestuck BNFs and we need more people like her.

>> No.7444527

>>7444470
I'd say keep Mostflogged in pretty tier, remove Hammasratas (not enough content and very basic stuff at that), promote Pearlgirl, keep Saccharinesylph in mid tier, and seconding all the other removals and demotions.

>> No.7444529

Any chance any of you are from the DMV area? I've only met other Homestucks at cons so far but I'm kind of wondering what the local community is like and if it's worth checking out a 4/13 meet, or it's just going to be energetic unsealed tweenagers.

>> No.7444543

>>7444470
I vote to keep hammasratas, pearlgirl710, mostflogged, and saccharinesylph where they are. I'm fine with all the other changes though. Should we keep cancerously at midtier or knock her down/out?

>> No.7444547

>>7444505
Personality shouldn't really be a factor unless their a huge bitch or massive drama. Being nice/popular in local communities shouldn't be a factor here, this isn't a friendship forum. It's about cosplay. I think Crunchy-anon hit the nail on the head regarding everyone.

>> No.7444568

>>7444470 Don't see a reason to demote snowchildhero. Someone calls her ugly in every thread she is brought up in but she has decent costumes and is active.

Violetprince has decent to good costumes and is still going to be doing homestuck. if they drop more in the future put them down. But for now, I'd say keep them.

I like some of mur's costumes but they don't always hold up to everyone else's on the tier. Demotion is fine.

For jadeb0t and vintage-aerith, I would wait to see what summer conventions bring and then remove if they are still done.

Mostflogged and saccharineslyph I say keep where they are, as they both have the costumes for their tier. I don't care about their drama or niceties.

All others I barely even have seen.

I am for the honorable mention archive. I don't think the others are necessary and as the community changes with the end of the comic involvement will change. It already is.

>> No.7444573

>>7444568
same anon adding to this because I forgot but I am for peachgirl710's promotion, I like what I have seen for her costumes.

>> No.7444614

>>7444470
I don't know, I get the idea behind the honorable mention tier, but I just don't think it suits the underlying purpose of the list. As other anons have said, I am not in favor of any actual list changes I think it's just fine the way it is.

As for the cosplayers, I support removing murtunacaptor, hammasratas, jadeb0t, and ineloquentformalities and promoting pearlgirl710.

>> No.7444616

>>7444568
Seconding this anon except if jadeb0t said she is done I believe it is time to remove her.

Also thanking crunchy anon for their help.

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7444644

Another themed list to help with this discussion.

>> No.7444646

>>7444644
I love these themed lists!! It makes for great comparisons. Also pretty sure vintage-aerith did Latula? (A surprisingly not so great one though iirc)

>> No.7444675

>>7444529
Maryland is pretty dead as far as meetups IIRC, maybe DCstuck too though we benefit from cons and the cherry blossom festival in DC being around 4/13. A few nice people from Virginia though DC/MD is mostly weeby teens and/or people who moved to other fandoms.

>> No.7444771

>>7444646
Alright, if anybody has any last minute input, now's the time to post it. Otherwise, the list changes shall be as follows:

- snowchildhero demoted to pretty tier
- violetprince demoted to pretty tier
- murtunacaptor removed
- hammasratas removed
- pearlgirl710 promoted to midtier
- catw1ngs removed
- ineloquentformalities removed
- jadeb0t removed
- vintage-aerith removed
- katspaw removed

Saccharinesylph's and mostflogged's positions remain unchanged.

>> No.7444775

>>7444771
there were just two votes against the violet prince and sch demotions, crunchy anon's review also said keep for both of them, I am not sure why it was brought up again all of a sudden.

there was also a vote for keeping vintage-aerith and waiting

>> No.7444789

>>7444775
I counted the vote for keeping vintage-aerith, but you are correct that I did not tally Crunchy Anon's input. I didn't scroll back up, so that's my mistake. Thank you for pointing it out. This will bring a revised total to, in the format of for/against:

- demoting snowchildhero: 3/3
- demoting violetprince: 3/3
- removing vintage-aerith: 3/2

Vintage-aerith still goes, with no (as of now) future Homestuck cosplay plans. Murtunacaptor, catw1ngs, ineloquentformalities, katspaw, and hammasratas are still removed. Pearlgirl710 is promoted.

>> No.7444815

>>7444789
Same anon from >>7444775, different anon from the ones who voted initially, but I am putting in my vote to keep them as well. I like their costumes and that they have been active. Shame that V-A has no future plans, so I am in agreement. All other demotions/promotions make sense to me.

Since I'm taking the time to respond I wanted to mention seerofsarcasm. If they were only put on because they run events, should they still be on now that they don't, and have sold all their costumes?

>> No.7444821

>>7444815
didn't seerofsarcasm organize some show in florida recently? or am I thinking cancerously?

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Doing the GT's for reference.

>yaexrae

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Fancytier Kanaya
Ballgown dreamer Kanaya
Mindfang

>Last Cosplay
Fancytier Kanaya in June (seven some months ago), though they have posted Homestuck content and their own Homestuck cosplay since

>Additional Notes
Post a LOT of WIP-stuff and is not afraid to share their techniques. Use a lot of different techniques and seem to try new things with every costume. They don't really rewear costumes as far as I'm concerned and there's not a lot of shoots. They rather seem into it for the craft. Their blog is mainly a cosplay blog. Quality wise they're unrivalred.

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>>7445113
>>7445113

>hhhhammy & gothichamlet (cowbuttcrunchies)

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Jedistuck Sollux & Karkat
Sollux & Karkat
The Sufferer/Signless & The Disciple
Derbystuck Vriska & Nepeta
Moth Mother (Gothichamlet)
Potterstuck Vriska & Eridan
Humanstuck Renfair Signless (Gothichamlet)
Palacestuck Feferi & Eridan
Beachstuck Porrim & Mituna
Beforean Karkat (Hhhhammy)
Potterstuck Kankri (Gothichamlet)
Humanstuck 50'sstuck Kankri & Mituna
Potterstuck Karkat (Hhhhammy)
Rule 63 Sollux & Karkat

>Last Cosplay
Jedistuck at Katsu

>Additional Notes
I think these go without saying. They get the whole community involved and is the single cleanest blog on this list as far as cosplay go. Hell even when they do simpler cosplays they frequently churn out interesting photoshoots. Interesting concepts and AU's so that they keep cosplaying Homestuck even when a lot of the things they probably initially wanted to do are done. Lots of cosplay help. Their craftmanship isn't Yaexrae-tier but damn well near. The only thing I'm missing from them in terms of cosplay is perhaps a GT-cosplay but I might just have missed that.

>> No.7445131

>>7444789
I'm for the demote of sch. She only ever does vriska/aranea but just in AUs. Her slave Dolorosa didn't look that great. The malnourishment made her face look even worse than normal but didn't also make sense because there was absolutely no sort of weathering on her clothes/nails. She was starved long enough to show it on her face but her clothes/nails were still perfect? This is a rookie mistake and it looked like shit. Sorry sch fans.

>> No.7445136

I'll post a more cohesive post about my feelings regarding the cosplayers when I get back. I was rather tired yesterday so some of my comments are a little lame.

>> No.7445167

>>7445131
so clearly you don't like her, but you're ignoring costumes she's done even when some are listed right on this thread?

vendetta much?

>> No.7445190

>>7445167
I'd rather see vendetta-chans with real gripes regarding cosplays then the selfpost/friendpost circle jerk going on when someones threatened to be dropped.

>> No.7445197

List-chan dropping by! I'm not going to edit a new version until we have the demotions and new tiers finalized or until the image list is updated first. Did we make a final decision on leaving the tiers as-is or changing them?

Also anyone else can update the file. Just use the right fonts so it doesn't get messy.

>> No.7445203

>>7445113
Is that really it? Shit maybe she is leaving the fandom

>> No.7445219

>>7445131
She has several canon Aranea costumes, and in her cosplay tag there are costumes for Feferi, Kanaya, Mindfang, and Jade which include godtier and fancy dreamer. I could be mistaken because it is not in her tag, but I think she did Meenah for some monologue thing a while back. She has a lot of decent costumes, she is active and helpful in the community, which fits midtier.

The Dolorosa picture you are talking about is not in her cosplay tag, so it might not be something she worked on.

>> No.7445229

>>7445136
a lot of people have already said this but thank you for your efforts.

>> No.7445360

>>7444473
what do you mean? like she is always with her ? do they cosplay together a lot? i never seen them together really

>> No.7445491

>>7445203
That's being generous, she did Mindfang in mid-february. Though it seems as if most of her cosplay plans are rather quickly thought out unlike some cosplayers who plan a year in advance.

>> No.7445514

Also I think some people are missing the point of "community contribution" a little. Even cosplayers who do not arrange meetups or parttake in sketches or panels can be parttaking in the community simply by encouraging the fandom. CBC and Pyropi are a good example of this when they encourage other cosplayers to do Derbystuck because even if it's a silly AU it means they keep the community interesting. The Sock Hop and Potterstuck meets Snowchildhero has arranged are important because if there are events where people need to actually need to make new things (even for those not generally invested with AU's) people will become inspired and create new costumes.

Community contribution is important not because you'll meet these people at a con or whatever but because it keep other cosplayers in the fandom.

>> No.7445560

>>7445514
Agreed. The reason community involvement keeps coming up as a possible plus-factor is the same reason that inactivity/not doing homestuck costumes anymore is a minus-factor.

>> No.7445574

>>7445560
Lol what? Doing Homestuck cosplay is the reason someone gets on the list in the first place. It's a list of people who do good Homestuck cosplay. If you stop cosplaying Homestuck, there's no reason to keep you.

>>7445514
Community involvement is commendable as an effort, sure. Planning events takes time and work. But don't act like it's some grand development that "maintains bonds and ties" among cosplayers when, by and large, the kind of cosplayers who will show up at those events are not the kind of people a decent cosplayers will want to hang out with. Comm crowds are mediocre at best and absolute stuckaboo at worst. Morphing an 80s themed closet cosplay out of your wardrobe counts for shit in the way of people becoming "inspired" and "creating new costumes."

>> No.7445578

>>7445574
Wow, what's your damage with your local comm?

Nice costumes- or at the very least, nice photos come out of meets. A lot of these guys wait for the good photos to happen at meets because they can't get the shots done at a con. I think the community involvement is important. Maybe not the most important thing, but it's a big factor.

>> No.7445604

>>7445578
I'm SDstuck. The damage is great.

Maybe it's just because we only ever hear about the shit comms, but I didn't think there was any real comm out there that wasn't overrun with weebs, teens with bad behavior and maturity issues, and adult-children who hang out with the younger ones and are massively creepy. And imo the good photos don't come out of a casual meet environment, they come out of a solid shoot away from meet or con crowds. I get what you're trying to say, but you're overplaying your hand. As the fandom dwindles, community involvement is going to disappear entirely, not through any fault of the organizers', because people will be deterred by the type of fan that still attends that shit. Meeting up at a park with a small group of sane cosplay friends is not at all the same as rolling the dice with whatever grey autists decided to overrun the mall that day.

As a discussion point so this doesn't turn into a trip down argue lane, which anons have decent local comms?

>> No.7445613

>>7445197
I don't feel as if there was enough of a consensus as to the actual tiers themselves, so I would leave them be.

>> No.7445615

>>7445574
Look, it's a who-to-follow list more than anything. If someone is active in the fandom this means they'll be posting more Homestuck and continue to cosplay in the future.

>> No.7445616

>>7445604
Oh, shit. I am sorry, Anon.

My comm is adorable. It helps that I organize it, so it stays on a pretty tight leash. For example, no mall meets, ever. It's always in a local park, easy to find. Before we break and settle off into doing our own thing, ground rules are laid out. No touching people who don't want to be touched, no hassling non-cosplay kids in the park, etc.

I'm one of the older ones in the comm, second-oldest, and while we do have younger members, they seem to follow our example, and other than playing on the playground a bit, are pretty mellow. I'm also pleased to say that we had a few stuckaboos, but by seeing/befriending older members, they've massively improved and calmed down, applied their makeup well and became better costumers.

I guess it's a bit idyllic, but it's what a good comm can do, and it's what worries me a bit as fandoms divide that some of the really young stuckaboo-ish members will not have anyone to really learn from, and get stuck in some kinda weird loop of bad closet cosplay after bad closet cosplay (See: WTNV, Don't Hug Me I'm Scared (Is that even still a thing or a brief blip on the radar?), Doctor Who, etc. A thing I liked about HS cosplay is that it had a literal scale for cosplayers to climb up by way of difficulty. The newer fads don't seem to have that.

>> No.7445632

>>7445616
Actually that sounds pretty cute. Grinchiness temporarily withdrawn. Four for you, Glenn Coco.

I guess I give you big props for helping the stuckaboos out. I, for one, would not have the patience for that, and would probably go out of my way to avoid them and then end up making a snide remark at their expense to other comm members. I don't know. Stuckaboos can be weirdly hero worshippy around cosplayers they perceive to be good (we see it on tumblr all the time), and I just wouldn't want to be around that. It would make me uncomfortable and I'd want them to go away before they smeared unsealed paint on me. You've got more dedication than I do. Didn't you ever feel like a babysitter? Were there times you just wanted to wash your hands of the whole thing, or was your comm that mild even from the get go?

>> No.7445671

>>7445632
Different anon who has done similar things in their comm. It's not just an age thing, it's how many rotten apples are in your barrel. Alot of times younger kids listen if you are serious business enough, but the late highschool/early college ones think they know everything. It's important to be really clear with your directions, but not afraid to get loud and step in when you have to. I recommend having another person with you to help.

In the end I think it's worth it as I've met friends I'll have after Homestuck is forgotten about and maybe some of the roudy members will learn something.

>> No.7445696

>>7445604
I honestly really like mine, but I'm not American. Our community has decreased

(Also a shoutout to J because I know you're lurking like "I see you posting")

If anyone has any names they want to revise for the list then hand them over and I'll go through them.

>> No.7445701

>>7445604
The problem with my comm isn't the stuckaboos, it's just that it's filled with a bunch catty teenagers who all "secretly" hate each other, and everybody thinks they're so mature. As far as quality of cosplaying goes, my comm is pretty great, but everybody just has the filthiest attitude towards each other, it's pathetic.

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If anyone is still interested here's all the people who have entered so far in the Homestuck cosplay contest (hscosplaycontest.tumblr.com)

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>>7445744

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>>7445748

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>>7445752

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>>7445756

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>>7445757

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>>7445760

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>>7445763

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>>7445766

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>>7445768

This is the last one.

>> No.7445779

>>7445757
>>7445760
>>7445775
These are the only ones that are not outright awful.

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>>7445775
Then if you don't mind I'll dig through some other names?

>fromgilbowithawesome

>Who?
They were the Karkat in the last shoot Angryjaeger (Gomugomugodhead) did and I recognized their face. They were the Karkat as well as the Gamzee and Eridan in those GQ-shots.

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Karkat
Gamzee
Jake
GT-Karkat
Humanstuck Gamzee (two different versions)
Humanstuck Karkat
Personalityswap Karkat
Pre-Game Kankri
Signless
Cronus
Dave
Humanstuck Eridan
GT-Cronus

>Last Cosplay
Davekat shot with Angryjaeger a week ago

>Additional Notes
I have seen their face quite a lot and I'm actually surprised I can't remember them being brought up before.
Their cosplay vary between good and a little above average. I'm not sure how much they sew themselves but their main quality is definitely their photoshoots which are interesting (interesting being more than "hello here is my cosplay". They do a lot of shipping shots) and of good quality. They also upload a lot of clear gifs and it was really enjoyable browsing their tag to be frank. Other than that I'd say they're good at putting a costume together and that their wig work is good although not superb. They have a bunch of cosplay help in their FAQ but I'm not sure how drama free they are. They also hang out with the buck teeth John/Sollux HSG isn't very fond of. Their weakest cosplay is definitely their Cronus, but they seem to have restyled his wig since they last wore it so it's a little hard to tell.

>> No.7445789

>>7445779
They're all still pretty bad.

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>>7445783
Those gt colors are so unforgivably off.

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>>7445814
A very valid point. I'll post some of them and you guys get to decide. I personally think they're qualified for pretty tier but not much more.

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>>7445827
Their Cronus (like I said they have since redone their wig so I'm not sure what it looks like now)

>> No.7445846

>>7445827
I don't think this person deserves placement for having the bulk of their cosplay lineup come from humanstuck. They make a good Karkat and a decent Gamzee, but none of their other cosplays stand out.

>mfw they hang out with rat john and wreckitronnie

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>>7445846
Like I said, their biggest strength is absolutely their shoots. I think someone up said that pretty-tier would premier a high quantity of good to decent cosplays over a small amount of really great ones. But I do see what you mean.

Perhaps we should just keep an eye on them?

Though I have to say that I believe them to be on about the same level as Harshwhimsical if I remember them correctly.

>> No.7445853

>>7445851
I was thinking the same thing. Pretty tier is all about having just a few really well constructed basic outfits. They seem to fit into the same slot as harshwhimsical imo.

>> No.7445861

>>7445853
We knocked hammasratas off for not having enough costumes when they had eight and none of them were humanstuck. If we aren't going to be consistent in our application of the tier rules then what's the point of having them at all?

>> No.7445868

>>7445861
Oh, that is true. I don't follow them, though, and haven't seen them around my dash. Do they have a lot of good shoots?

Any thoughts from you, crunchy anon? Seeing as you've gone through both of their tags.

>> No.7445869

>>7445783
I actually follow this cosplayer. Their shoots are really enjoyable even though I don't care for gamkat. Their humanstuck isn't total shit and they do have non humanstuck too.

They seem to fit pretty tier to me, as some were on there for only two solid costumes. With the fandom dwindling fresh blood would be nice.

>> No.7445874

>>7445869
Anon answering >>7445861

Can we come up with a more consistent number system? I think it would help.

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>>7445861
>>7445868

It is worth noting the difference in both that Hammasratas didn't have much of any sort of tutorials or cosplay help at least not close at hand, and also that their cosplay tag was a lot more boring in my experience. It was in large the same shots over and over again.

I went back to check on Hammasratas and I DO think we should keep an eye on them because they have a few more cosplays planned (Namely Eridan and some other versions of Sollux and Dirk. Their future cosplay plans include AR and Davesprite as well as Trickster Sollux and GT-Kurloz) but right now they're not all that interesting.

Also right about now I'm willing to promote anyone who properly use lace front wigs to mid-tier by default sigh. At least they mentioned their knowledge about it so it might be in their future interest.

>> No.7445882

>>7445874
I think that would definitely help. I mean, we promoted pearlgirl710 to mid tier with only five HS cosplays in the last year. I love her work, don't get me wrong, and craftsmanship and quality definitely need to strike a balance with each other, but slapping down tier numbers would eliminate confusion right from the start. To me, few means three. Anywhere from three to five. What does it mean to other anons?

>> No.7445887

>>7445882
*Craftsmanship and quantity. Thx autocorrect.

Also it should be said that help is more of a midtier thing to begin with. Pretty tier is just, well, being pretty.

>> No.7445892

>>7445882
Looking through the pretty-tier I still find that it is a bit of a numerous clean looking and decent cosplays > a few really great cosplays. The bloggers who have cosplays which aren't bad but not good enough to warrant midtier and especially if they have a lot to show for it.

I find that pretty tier is generally just people who are hobbyists while midtier and godtier are people who are more serious with sewing, propwork etc. and compete to an extent pretty tiers don't.

>> No.7445897

>>7445892
Also this:

The longer you have cosplayed Homestuck the less you need to qualify for mid- and godtier IMO. Yaexrae didn't do a lot this year but her cosplay catalogue has already proved her quality. Seclusionsalad (Pearlgirl) is good but we have little to compare to and fall back on.

>> No.7445941

The problem with prettytier is there is no clear definition. At one point it was for people with a lot of costumes but might have drama, or for people with one or two costumes. I am fine with that definition, and possibly raising the number to two or three, but it should be enforced as such.

>> No.7445950

>>7445632
Anon you replied to, here. I dunno, I guess I have a soft spot for young teens? I've worked with kids before in my job, so the shit that's annoying to most is sort of endearing to me.

The only reason I'm as good a cosplayer as I am is because I'm old and have been sewing a long time before I started cosplaying. I get a bit of the whole "OMG I'm cry,,, so GOOD,,," whatnot but I basically tell them flat out I am just a big nerd and swan dive off the pedestal really fast.

And yeah. I do feel like a babysitter sometimes. Mainly it's when parents come and sternly glare at me or give me their kid's health information and whatnot like I'm a babysitter. But they're genuinely good kids. I guess I'm dedicated to them because I see so much of myself in them when I was younger? And they need a grownup nerd to reassure them, yeah, you can survive college and adulthood and still be nerdy, but just be a responsible nerd. Know how to handle yourself in social situations, so on.

We've had park people come up to us being very polite, complimenting our group. I think they're just really well-mannered. I'd like to think a bit of that was my direction, but really, they're probably all just good kids. Who knows, I got lucky.

Also the kiddies tend to go home before 7 and the grownups hang around afterward or do Barstuck after so we can shake the "babysitter" vibe.

Now, they've had events without me since I work, and from the photos those seemed to have veered a bit Stuckaboo... There was a "Promstuck"/Anime Prom at the Library for 17 and under, for example... They didn't get why at 25 I didn't want to attend.

>> No.7445999

>>7445941
Yeah. The only person on pretty tier held back for drama is mostflogged. Just because the other cosplayers have more than a "few" cosplays doesn't mean new introductions need to match their larger number of costumes, just that the people already there aren't helpful/skilled enough to promote up the ladder. I think saying three or four quality cosplays with a good attitude should be enough to qualify a cosplayer for pretty tier.

>> No.7446010

Yaexrae upd8: she just mentioned that she'd like to do condesce at one point within a reasonable future. Hooray for cosplayers not dropping out!

>> No.7446017

>>7445999
Agree. So new definition -

Prettytier: Has at least four solid costumes and a good attitude. Costumes and/or photos are eye appealing. Craftsmanship is not as detailed or as high.

Midtier: Five or more solid costumes. Construction is decent to very good and are more serious about craftsmanship. Are generally helpful by answering cosplay questions and/or helping their local communities/conventions

Godtier: Highest level of craftsmanship. Flawless work. Helpful to the community and well organized tutorials.

>> No.7446245

>>7446010
This makes me so happy, she'll be such a great HIC when she gets around to it.

>>7446017
I think this is fair. Four costumes establishes a quality precedent, even if the cosplays are simple, and for pretty tier there is a certain level of simpleness that you can expect. More detailed, advanced work earns a higher tier.

>> No.7446336
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7446336

has princerits ever been considered for a tier?

>> No.7446455

>>7446336
> no horn holes

Not a great start for consideration. What else have they done?

>> No.7446757

>>7446336
Their cosplay tag is overwhelmed with webcam shots and grainy gifs. Whatever nice photoshoot quality pictures they have is overrun by the other junk, and they seem very into SNK lately.

>> No.7446857

Any pictures from recent AZ cons?

>> No.7447226
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7447226

(If anyone still has names they want me to check out just throw them out, I remember someone mentioned Crowmunist and I saw them on my dash so I decided to check them out)

>crowmunist

>Who?
I recognized the name as being mentioned here, but it doesn't seem like they're all that active in their community or anything of the like.

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Meulin
Dirk
GT-John
John
Davesprite
GT-Dave

>Last Cosplay
A Meulin shoot the other day

>Additional Notes
Quality Wise they match other names on Pretty-Tier but they're lacking in amount of shots on each character. They don't seem very active in the community or by doing shots with other cosplayers and I can't find any WIP-pictures or any notable cosplay help. If they post more shoots I'd say they're absolutely relevant because right now they're not super interesting.

>> No.7447319

>>7447226
Help and comm involvement are all midtier requirements, and there's no way she'll make that, so those qualities aren't really relevant imo. If we're looking to introduce fresh blood to the list, I'd support her as well as fromgilbowithawesome. They've each got their drawbacks, but they're active and above average, and that's about all pretty tier designates.

>> No.7447355

>>7446857
I promise you, if there are, you don't want to see. I ghosted Con-ni last night, and I only saw a cute Dave and an Eridan whose makeup looked cakey, but otherwise was fine. Also a kind of cute GT John, but I heard his voice and felt like puking. I've never heard a boy screech so loud.

>> No.7447358

>>7447319
I think they're on the lower side of pretty tier (especially fromgilbowithawesome because of all the humanstuck) but I'd support adding them so that we can get some new blood. If we do then we should also re add hammasratas back.

>> No.7447367

>>7447358
Hammasratas have new stuff planned for the next months so I won't say kick them off as much as keep an eye on them.

Also if someone could archive all this I'd be pretty thankful.

>> No.7447378

>>7447358
Agreed. I think part of the issue we're having in assessing new nominations is that we're comparing them to people already on pretty tier, ie gomugomugodhead, but cosplayers like that who are on pretty tier are there because they don't meet the requirements to promote, not because number of costumes is limited for them. It's been a bit of a mental roadblock for me to look at these new suggestions fairly because my knee jerk reaction is to say they don't qualify because they don't have enough cosplays or their craftsmanship needs work, and measured up against the longer standing pretty tiers who haven't moved, that's true. But for new additions who are tiering for the first time, measured only against pretty tier's requirements, they do qualify. I've had to adjust my perspective a little.

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7447482

Imagelist anon here, sorry if I screwed anything up. Here's an (attempted) updated list.

>> No.7447504

>>7447482
I have to say I don't see the reason when it comes to demoting Snowchildhero but keeping Saccharinesylph. I can see that people prefer SchS over SCH when it comes to cosplay quality but I don't think SchS has enough finished photoshoots or tutorials to be placed above SCH. I say they're tiering equally but whether that is on midtier or prettytier ill leave up for debate.

>> No.7447556

>>7447482
The consensus was to not demote snowchildhero. Also she meets midtier requirements from >>7446017

>> No.7447579

>>7443921
Source?

>> No.7447583

>>7447482
I don't think we should finalize any of this until we agree on hard number guidelines for the tiers. Right now the promotions and demotions are very arbitrary.

>> No.7447592

>>7447583
See
>>7446017

Going on that, the updated list looks fine good, with the exception of SCH, who should be midtier.

>> No.7447607

>>7447583
Agreed. People are still debating about schs, sch, cancerously, etc. Community involvement really shouldn't matter for squat when composing a list of who to follow for good cosplays. Go make a non cgl list of who to follow for influential community events or whatever if that's what you want.

>> No.7447624

>>7447607
I thought this had been decided yesterday. No one had any objections to the prettytier = 4, midtier = 5 + higher quality/community. The discussion had even shifted.

>> No.7447658

>>7447624
Yeah. I see midtier as for people of exceptional quality who are either helpful with information or involved in their community. They don't have to be both, but they need one or the other, otherwise their craftsmanship better be damn good enough to make up for a lack of either. Speaking of midtier, does pearlgirl710 still qualify? I'm starting to think the answer is no. She's a great cosplayer, but how much help does she offer?

>> No.7447680

>>7447658
She reblog a lot of help on her cosplay blog and answer question. I personally don't see her fit for midtier because she lack photoshoots and better pictures of her cosplays.

>> No.7447691

>>7447680
Reblogging help doesn't really count, it's generating your own that does. Angryjaeger answers questions too but not enough to promote, it's really tutorial making that counts for that. I think we should move pearlgirl back to pretty tier.

>> No.7447790

>>7447691
agreed. peachgirl is good, but she either needs more amazing costumes or some community contributions.

>> No.7447794

>>7447482
also just noticed violet prince was moved too, when the consensus was to keep her. vintage-aerith was the one from midtier who was voted off.

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>>7447504
>>7447556
Sorry, SCH is back on mid and pearlgirl is back down.

>> No.7447831

draw mokie

>> No.7447829
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Ok, it's time to guess the cosplay again

>> No.7447832

>>7447829
Yessss, i love this shit

im gonna go with human vriska, i see blue eyelashes.

>> No.7447849

>>7447829
Terezi. Just a hunch.

>> No.7447863

>>7447832
>>7447849

alas, you are both wrong.

It's genderbent humanstuck Gamzee

>> No.7447869

>>7447863
LOL HOW

>> No.7447875

>>7447863
Nope, no, nu-uh

i will forever be in denial, thats totally human vriska

GOD DAMNIT

>> No.7447876

>>7447869
apparently that eyeliner was purple in her opinion. And she just hadn't had the time to paint the symbol on the shirt yet k no hatin

>> No.7447877

>>7447875
No, I see it now. The lashes are purple.

>> No.7447880

>>7447876
this fucking fandom I swear to god

>> No.7447882

>>7447877
Eugh im fucking blind then.

>>7447863
Are we gonna have another round?

>> No.7447889

How do you guys feel about people cosplaying their personal god tiers?

>> No.7447895

>>7447889
I like it/ dont really have a problem with it.

I once made my own for super hero day at my school, but it was super shitty, so maybe i'll redo it one day.

But yeah, im more okay with it if its made well/cleanly.

>> No.7447901

>>7447889
If done well, I think it's a neat thing to do

>> No.7447930

I think we're making the list requirements too vague by saying 4 or 5 quality costumes and some vague thing about contributing with tutorials. I think we should be way more specific:

>for a costume to be considered good enough quality to be counted towards midtier it must be at least 50% construction, so god tiers, dreamers, sprites, and ancestors mostly. Default Karkat outfits don't count, for instance, since it's all closet cosplay. Costumes must be cleanly made and have at least one good quality pic in it so it's obvious the quality is good.
>pretty tier cosplays: cleanly worn closet cosplays can count, but I think we should raise the minimum number of cleanly worn costumes to 8. After all, the point of pretty tier is that you look good, not construct well, so show it off in a variety of costumes even if they're simple. Same deal where there has to be at least one good quality photo for each costume.
>to qualify for mid-tier, you have to have done at least one tutorial related to makeup, sewing, or prop work that has a step-by-step process that is easy to follow. It also has to have pictures.
>if anyone in any tier hasn't made a homestuck costume in the last 6 months, they come off the list. No exceptions, even if they're 'planning' more.

>> No.7447932

>>7447930
>>to qualify for mid-tier, you have to have done at least one tutorial related to makeup, sewing, or prop work that has a step-by-step process that is easy to follow. It also has to have pictures.

Haha no fuck you

>> No.7447935

>>7447930
This disqualifies like half the list, you do realize.

>> No.7447939

>>7447935
Half the list hasn't cosplayed homestuck in the last 9 months at least. Why would you want to keep them around?

If this really is a to follow list, then make the midtier worth people's time. If it's a BNF list, leave it as is and put cifera, v-a and others back on it.

>> No.7447941

>>7447930
Eight costumes for pretty tier??? I don't even think longstanding pretty tiers like ggg and mf have eight under their belt. Pearlgirl certainly doesn't. I also think you're overestimating the role of "closet cosplay" in this. Regular god tiers are pretty tier standard, and those require sewing at least in part if not in whole.

>> No.7447944

>>7447932
Why not? If you want people to have contributed to the community with tutorials and stuff, at least make sure they have a tutorial or 3.

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>>7447939
Here you go.

>> No.7447949

>>7447930
I thought tutorials were always a thing for god-tiers? It was never a requirement for mid-tier.

>> No.7447951

>>7447947
You spelled yaexrae wrong

>> No.7447950

>>7447947
Most accurate list

>> No.7447954

>>7447947
I like how all the shittiers were also disqualified.

>> No.7447952

>>7447950
Repent your heathen ways and might St. Yaexrae have mercy on your soul.

>> No.7447953

>>7447951
Heathen

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>>7447951
Let's be real

>> No.7447960

>>7447955
Your fantasy world where centipede horns and shitty paint reign supreme is absolutely hilarious.

>> No.7447967

>>7447960
Sorry, Yaexrae

>> No.7447971
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7447971

Time to restructure I guess.

>> No.7447969

>>7447960
Cifera's aradiabot was the best one ever cosplayed, but Yaexrae beats her out for top Homestuck craftsmanship by a long shot.

>> No.7447973

>>7447226
I've always liked their cosplays, tbh. Their Davesprite was especially nice. Any other cosplayers you got on your list? I really enjoy your input.

>> No.7447974

>>7447949
>Midtier: Five or more solid costumes. Construction is decent to very good and are more serious about craftsmanship. Are generally helpful by answering cosplay questions and/or helping their local communities/conventions

So they should at least have a tag for cosplay questions even if not a tutorial. If their answers aren't easy to access then they're not meeting midtier requirements.

>> No.7447976

>>7447971
VA was knocked off. I love this pyramid concept though.

>> No.7447978

>>7447974
Steering away from the hero-worshiping creeps... Yeah, I prefer these requirements more, especially because not everyone gets their inboxes flooded with cosplay questions like MF.

>> No.7447984

>>7447973
Sadly, no! I had some but they just didn't meet the requirements when I looked through their blogs.

>>7447974
Definitely this. I scratched quite a few names because they had no info on their cosplay. If I have to type out /tagged/my_cosplay they were disqualified. Which was also why I did give Fromgilbowithawesome points because their blog is really great for the topic of cosplay while say Dei-sandvich is good and they do answer questions they lack that structure on their blog.

>> No.7447994

>>7447971
Some of the placement should be moved around but I actually really like this? Sorry yaexrae fans but she's too close to on hiatus to be placed on top of the entire list. I also think dei and kisbe should be over pyropi in terms of craftsmanship quality.

>> No.7448000

>>7447994
Yaexrae said she's considering doing the condesce for acen, so she's definitely not down and out yet. And dei and kisbe don't have near the cosplay volume that pyropi does. They should stay where they are. If you want to keep it tier accurate though, dersedreamer should be switched with pearlgirl, vintage-aerith taken off, and crowmunist added. As long as we're discussing pretty tier additions, what about striderian? They've been nominated before, but I think they meet the critera for sure now.

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>>7447973
ETA: I'm just going to say that even when I did have some names with good quality cosplays (Sowah being one of them who was also brought up at one point I'm fairly sure, pic related) I immediately disqualified anyone who hadn't cosplayed Homestuck for more than six months. It's one thing to keep cosplayers on the list but I feel as if we shouldn't add anyone not active with the fandom.

If anyone wants to say that this is double standard-y then feel free to and I'll type up something for them too.

>> No.7448006

>>7447994
Pyropi's blog is better to follow though, since her posts are almost always on topic (if it's not homestuck cosplay it's at least cosplay-focused, not a lot of spam of cats and fanart I don't care about). I also appreciate that she only posts once or twice a day at most.

>> No.7448024

>>7448000
She's not out of the fandom but she hasn't posted anything new since megacon right? Wasn't the to follow list to highlight homestuck cosplayers who are posting new material? I don't want her off the list but if she's the top example then we need to change the criteria and throw the inactive BNFs back on like the anon upthread suggested. Otherwise activity needs to be taken into consideration on top of costume quantity. Something like 6 months without a new costume drops you to the bottom of the tier. 1 year without posting anything takes you down a tier or off the list.

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>>7448000

>striderian

>Who?
Suggested by anon.

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Terezi
Damara
GT-Feferi
Spades Slick
GT-Damara
GT-Vriska
Trickster Roxy
GT-Roxy
Pounce De Leon
Derse Dreamer Nepeta
Sollux
Rule 63 Jake
Jade
GT-Jake
GT-Dave
Trekstuck John
Trickster Jade
Grimdark Rose
Latula

>Last Cosplay
A shoot with Fromgilbowithawesome at Katsu

>Additional Notes
Their blog has a cosplay FAQ and they also post WIP's. It seems that they're working on the spacey Jade dress. Their biggest quality is probably their sewing skills but they post a lot of finished and realized photoshoots (something I personally believe is important for the tier list). They're not amazing with horns or greying up (most apparent in their Damara) but they have the sewing skills to mostly make up for it and I'd personally rather see them on the list than some names which have been inactive and show no sign of returning to the fandom.

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>>7447882
ok here goes, I think this one's easier but I guessed wrong before looking at the tags so

>> No.7448032

THIS IS STUPID

>> No.7448045

>>7448024
The kind of cosplays yaexrae produces take a lot of time though, and life can get in the way. There's a fairly recent photo of her Dolorosa with a Mindfang in her cosplay tag, and even if she has taken a break to work on other cosplays, she hasn't renounced Homestuck like cifera has, and hasn't said she won't do anything new like angryjaeger and dersedreamer have, and they're still in their tiers. She's not inactive, so there's no use in demoting her. See what her plans are after midoricon when she finishes elsa if you're that concerned about it, because If she pursues HIC, that's when she'll start working on it.

>> No.7448054
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>ceres

>Who?
Found them from shoots taken with Striderian and recognized the name.

>HS-Cosplay over the past year
Diamonds Droog
Meulin
Karkat
GT-Eridan
March Eridan
Vriska

>Last Cosplay
Diamonds Droog for Katsu

>Additional Notes
I may have gone a bit too deep in their tag, it's hard to tell. They do answer questions but I'm not sure how active they are in the fandom or if they're planning new HS cosplays.

>> No.7448060

>>7448045
That pix is from Otakon. I like her costumes but this shows how the list is just a popularity contest if the rules need to be changed to keep some people on. I d rather see people make a list of helpful links and good photoshoots than a popularity contest

>> No.7448069
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>>7448031
MEULIN?

>> No.7448080

>>7448060
I'm pretty sure it was crunchy anon who said upthread that the higher tiers can go longer between costumes because they've already proven their worth. Yeah, Yaexrae is popular, but she isn't popular for all the reasons tumblr usually cares about, she's popular because she's one of the best. There's absolutely no point removing her if she's revisiting HS for a major upcoming midwest con. That pic may have been taken at Otakon, but it was posted in November, meaning she's doing what all cosplayers do when they can't generate new material: she's posting unpublished photos from a few months back to still put stuff out there. She's not gone yet, anon.

>> No.7448094

>>7448060
Pretty much this. What's the point in standardizing the number of costumes and inactivity dates if we just ignore it for certain people? Yaexrae should stay in god tier because she hasn't been inactive for a year but it sounds like some anons are unwilling to ever demote her unless she holds a press conference to announce her leaving the fandom.

>> No.7448111

>>7448094
Except cosplayers do that though. Zillywhooore, cifera, ggg, dersedreamer, and I want to say Tatum too and probably others have all made announcements about their departure from HS cosplay. It's not an uncommon thing in a fandom where you can become that well known for your cosplay.

>> No.7448115

>>7448080
If you want to keep her on you need to put back other people like vintage-airth who have plans but have been inactive. But no one wants to do that, they just want to keep her at the top and be catty about where everyone else goes.

I think a reference list is more useful then who to follow anyway. References are clear cut and not about who is liked and who isn't.

>> No.7448141

>>7448115
VA's year in cosplay can't even be compared to Yaexrae's in terms of quality, and she only did one more cosplay (excluding humanstuck). She wasn't taken off for inactivity, she was removed because her cosplays are just okay and she has no future HS cosplay plans, while Yaexrae does and her cosplays are far superior. You can't compare them as if there's a conspiracy because there's not. Sorry you've got a beef with this though.

>> No.7448143

New thread:
>>7448142

>> No.7450467

>>7445789

really? i like the john. the others aren't great, especially that rose, but i think the john is good.

>> No.7452303

>>7443923
This looks badly shopped