/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>7439777
From what I've seen and heard, most wear it in their bedroom for tumblr selfies only, hehe.
I don't wear that kind of stuff but I'm curious too. Y no outdoor cutie pix in public places....?

You're talking to girls that wear lolita and cosplay out and about. If they can take the stares for that, odds are they're not too uncomfortable in something considerable toned down and cute. (maybe minus the pigtails)

Personally I never get too many a stare when wearing casual j-fashion. If anything I get more compliments. "I like your shoes, love your bag, where did you get that, etc" As long as you look nice and put-together you shouldn't worry too much.

>>7439777
>Where the heck do you wear it?
Only in their bedrooms to pose for mirror pics.
These cheap ass clothes have no other practical use for everyday wear.
>>7439785
Hivemind.

Depends. Some people will hate anything even remotely out of the ordinary and others don't care or will even appreciate it. It differs from country to country, town to town, person to person. My more conservative family members would assume I was prostituting myself if I wore that outfit in your picture whereas my boyfriend and coworkers would think it's super cute as long as I didn't wear it to a formal occasion.

>>7439785
>hehe
>that kind of stuff
>Y no outdoor cutie pix in public places....?

pls go

>>7439785
>From what I've seen and heard, most wear it in their bedroom for tumblr selfies only, hehe.
That just seems like such a waste to me though, you know?

I want this so bad, but if it's really so unacceptable to wear this kinda stuff out in public, I'd rather just not.

>>7439789
Basically this. I live in the south, so I expected to get lots of, "omg what is she wearing," looks/comments, but it's actually been more, "Oh, I love your outfit! Where did you buy X?"

People are a lot less likely to make snide comments if your outfit is nice, and you carry yourself well. If you're constantly pulling at your clothing, and looking obviously uncomfortable, people will zone in on that, but if you just act like this is your day-to-day clothing, no one will say anything, because, "Oh, they've probably already heard it all before." The only people that really say anything these days are annoying teenagers, and they'll comment about anything out of the ordinary.

>Just everywhere?

Yes. I just don't do peek-a-boo thigh or exposed shoulders at the office, though, full tights and cardigans when I am there, otherwise I just wear it.

Does wearing cute clothes make you happy? Yes.
Does caring about the thoughts of people who hold no ground in your life make you happy? No.
Do what makes you happy, fuck the potentially negative thoughts of other people. They're probably not going to think about your for more than a second anyway. You're not going to be a world wide scandal, I promise.

>>7439797
>unacceptable
To who exactly? Random ass strangers that have no bearing on your life? If you care so much about looking "socially acceptable" then stick to t-shirts and jeans.

>>7439806
Yeah I'm in the south too and when I wear cute things like pleated skirts or cute thigh highs or tights most girls ask where I got it from or compliment me.

>>7439797
I didn't say I thought it was unacceptable just that I see lots of it in room selfies and very little of it in real wear outside cons or such. Also, lots of it looks cute on the petite models in a styled setting or on Asian TV but won't look anywhere near as good styled for everyday in an ordinary setting on an average girl. Sure there's a lot of that in fashion anyway but I think it's even more true in the case of the cute Asian fashion wear. You could get a couple of pieces and give it a spin though, what's the harm?

>>7439832

I wear clothing outside every day that I take photos of in my room, where else am I supposed to take photos of it? On the street? Do I need to take a photographer with me every time I go out to show you fashion in action?

>>7439777
How terrible did you look that someone said something negative? I wear JFashion every day. I adapt it to how I look (no pigtails because I'm not 10 or in OTT lolita) and I only ever get compliments or ignored. For OP pic, she looks stupid. The hair screams daddy issues, along with the off-the shoulder sweater with nothing underneath (seriously, sweaters go OVER things, they are not shirts). The skirt is waay too short for most daily situations, unless you wore cute, opaque leggings underneath. Mature up the hair, wear a blouse or something under the sweater and some leggings and it'd pass by unnoticed.

There's dressing oddly, and then there's the wedding dress at a pizza shop syndrome. You've got to know what the appropriate level of dressed is, and you have to look right in the clothes. If you look old, that outfit will look freaky and pedophilic. Look like a really young girl? You'll just look stupid and like you can't dress yourself. Or like a prostitute.

By the sounds of your OP, you look far too old for your clothes. A lot of more mature looking people get dirty looks for *daring* not end their lives at 29 or switch to grandma mode.

>>7439777
Back when I was still in highschool or whatever, I'd try wearing thigh highs or whatever cutesy shit to school people were so mortifyling horrible to me and just gave me looks. And if anything, I just looked like your standard Urban Outfitters hipster rat.

I go to art school now and thigh highs and pleated skirts or whatever else odd things are the norm here, so I don't know how I'm going to adjust once I graduate...

Ironically enough, everyone who gave me shit were, in my opinion, some of the worst dressed people ever. Leggings for pants, ugg boots, and and hoodies every single day of the year, and they were giving me shit for thigh high socks?

>>7439879
Teenagers are the worst, 100% of the time. A teenager said some bullshit about my shirt from behind, and as soon as I turned around (dude with long hair at the time) he chicken shitted out and ran off.

My shirt just had my school name on the back, which was from three states away. It's not like it was a school rivalry, teenagers are just retards.

>>7439835
No, of course not.
But posting your pix or similar adverts of what you do wear out and telling OP that you do wear it outside might break the impression that it's mostly tumblrfags just wearing it at home. I think you may be in the minority of those who DO wear it out though, otherwise we'd spot it more, right?

My uni has a really diverse population full of Asians, so slightly unusual fashion like what you say isn't too uncommon. It's not like all of the overseas students are walking around looking ~~kawaii desu~~ all the time, but there's a lot more variety. That being said I love to wear cutesy stuff IRL and I've never faced real issues. The only time I got lots of strange looks was when I wore bear tights like pic. Thigh highs are one thing, but I can honestly see why wearing bear tights around college would warrant a couple of double-takes.

Honestly I'd be surprised to hear that something as simple as thigh-highs would warrant strong reactions (at least in college) since it's getting popular in the US now (you can find OTKs at your local F21, UO, or AA).

However, then you see people like pastelbat who take selfies in public in full garb and it's like, daaamn. Now that's something that I could see as eliciting a reaction.

Overall, I have no reservations about wearing my cutesy stuff everywhere, but I'm not as OTT as like pastel goth kids.

I wear jfashion and kfashion every day, like another anon said I only get compliments or ignored. What is pertinant to mention tho is that I live in San Francisco - which is weird as fuck and also full of asians (I am also asian).

>>7439806
Me too. I wear zr all the time and I've never had negative comments on my appearance, even though I live in a very conservative area. If the clothes suit you and you're confident, you'll be fine.

I live in an area where alternative fashion is slightly uncommon, so when I do go out dressed in that manner, I'm met with a mixture of reactions. The most common one is being asked if I have accepted Jesus as my lord and savior. The others are where'd I get my outfit and if I plan to go into modeling.

>>7439777
When I'm not wearing pastel fairy kei-like clothes I mostly wear Jfashion outfits or things that are a bit out of the norm here like chokers, knee high socks, colored contacts, bows, etc and sure sometimes older people will say something rude but for the most part I only get compliments like >>7439789 said!
Really as long as your outfit is well though out and put together well even if it's strange you shouldn't get many dirty looks, usually a lot of people actually come and talk to me and are really nice! Just wear the cute clothes you want to wear and act normal and friendly and things should go pretty well.
Good luck next time you wear your Jfashion clothes OP!

I wear "the anime schoolgirl look" when I'm not feeling like a slob (it is college anyways). Voted "human anime character" in high school band. I have been wearing thigh highs and pleated skirts since middle school, never cared, I supposed some may thought it was skanky but I think the catholic schoolgirl stigma attached has faded somewhat. Nowadays I wear the same type of stuff. Oversize sweaters with skirts, poofy pigtails (I have short hair though), rhinestone cat ear headband, etc. I get compliments all the time. I ordered a Bodyline seifuku during the sale and damn right I'm gonna wear it on campus (if it doesn't look hideous).

Seriously, who cares what people think?

I usually wear K-fashion like clothes that I can find at my local stores that mostly look like the outfit here
>>7439916

I usually just get stared at or receive compliments from middle-aged women or little girls.

I only get shit when I dress in an uncommon way when I'm walking from home to the subway station because I live in a very sketchy neighbourhood (sometimes I get catcalled and harassed on a daily basis just wearing jeans and t-shirts, so). But I live right next to one of the biggest cities in the country, so when I get there people usually don't spare more than a single glance, and that's only if you're dressing in cosplay or a very extreme fashion.

Pastel hair, miniskirts and OTK socks are nothing when you can go out for a walk and see a man stuffed in a giant penis costume passing by.

I wear stuff like this and no one cares.
Maybe I get some extra looks or people say I look cute. But it's nothing like wearing lolita. no hoards of unwashed masses asking if I'm "in a play"

>>7439777
>Where the heck do you wear it?
Depends where you live.

I live in a big city, you can wear what you want, no fucks given really.
But when I visit my family you get the odd stare or shouted chavvy comments.

>>7439777 (OP)
>Where the heck do you wear it?
Depends where you live.

I live in a big city, you can wear what you want, no fucks given really.
But when I visit my family you get the odd stare or shouted chavvy comments.

I don't get all the hate for twintails. There's only a few anons who brought it up in this thread, but in general I've seen it sneered at on /cgl/.
People associate OTK+short skirt with wearing a catholic school girl fetish costume and it sounds like the consensus here is "fuck them, wear your socks." Why the turn around with pigtails? It's literally the same thing, with people assuming that you're doing a school girl fetish thing.
I like pigtails since you can still have your hair down but it's out of your face. The lift of the tails also add a lot of volume and body to your hair, especially if you curl it.

Casual j-fashion is pretty much my everyday where. But I also go to an art school in a large city. When I am at school, I get no looks whatsoever, the most thing a professor has said to me is "it's cold. why don't you put some pants on?" Otherwise, like when I visit my home town, I do get a few odd looks, but it's mostly just compliments!

I always dream about wearing lots of these cute clothes but i will never do. I live in a shitty 3rd world city, where if you don't wear what everyone does you get horrible comments and looks from everyone..

Pleated skirts, cutesy dresses, thigh highs, I wear it all. Sometimes people stare but I've never received any negative comments. I received several compliments when I wore those cat tights.

For comparison I live in a mid-sized Canadian city and my university is full of the good old uggs/yoga pants/hoodie combo. And jeans. Jeans everywhere.

Just ignore everything. I'm not saying you should go out looking like a trainwreck, but as long as your outfit is comfortable and cute, you should enjoy it.

>>7439832
Umm you probably see room selfies more than outdoor pics because that's the most logical easy place to grab a pic of a ccasual outfit. Like...you can't expect people to plan photoshoot for their casual outft...

Depends on where you live mostly. How old are you or how old do you look? I think some may give you nasty looks if you look older than your age or if you are old and look your age. Some people may think you are trying to dress younger than you are.

Oh dear I wish I could wear that...but i'm feeling insecure and ugly when not dressed like a total tomboy. I wish someone would force me to wear such adorable outfits like "Grow some confidence anon now put this shit on and shut up". Whenever i try something cute and feminine on i just don't feel pretty enough,not good enough and out of place.
>oh no i will stay dressed as a tomboy forever
>oh no i will never feel cute and feminine once in my life
>oh no i'm doomed to drool over that damn cutesy clothing without ever wearing it

>>7440438
the worst is that i look effing young for my age (19 and people think i'm 14 or 16 at most) and that i will probably be an old granny when i will grow some balls.

>>7440438
Are you me
Sometimes I get up in the morning and put on a cute outfit with a skirt. And then I look in the mirror and feel insecure and miserable and change into a shirt and jeans.
I think it's important to start with small steps, you'll never be able to force yourself to change all at once. Makeup is important too.

>>7440443

Wait until you get to work. The amount of "wow she looks so young! How is she here?" is terrible. I still get carded despite being 22.

But it has its perks. One of them being that you can most likely pull that shit off you claim you can't. So seriously, pull that shit off before you look weird and creepy for trying to dress like a cute girl when you look like you're 30.

>>7440443
Haha anon are you me?
Going on 20, looking like 15.

I just bought some cute dresses that I'd love to wear out, but I am going to feel self-conscious in them mostly because I can never tell when my skirt is pulled up in the back, so I'm constantly tugging on it.

>>7440464
Oh god, know that feel
>outfit 1
"well shit, they'll laugh at me"
>outfit 2
"well shit, they'll laugh at me"
>outfit 3, nearing painful normalfaghood
"they'll laugh at me for sure and post me on people of walmart"
>tshirt and jeans, fuck it

>>7440464
This.
This is what happen every bloody morning.
Putting on some adorable outfit,feeling insecure as hell,changing to normalfags clothes,be unhappy,repeat. Also any idea for cute boystyle wear anyone?. You made my day with those words.You're right. I'm such a lazy bum about makeup and just feel gross with foundation or stuff on my face plus I got bumpy/wrinkly/puffy skin around my eyes and such so I feel even more insecure in feminine wear meh. I tried to sleep,eat well,drink tons of water,masks and all that crap but nothing ever worked.

>>7440465
I didn't get into the pool last summer because I didn't have "adult supervision". I'm 24.

>>7440476
Not even talking about how much I hate my oblong faceshape and my face overall, i should really work on my self esteem.
Also I just cried a little bit behind my computer screen seeing all your comments...I thought I was the only one feeling this way oh dear

>>7440478
Feeling you. Some people think i'm 12 and i'm a fucking adult. Lolita doesn't help either to, eh

>>7440478

Ah yeah, that too. I once tagged along with my lab supervisor to this one hospital. The lab coworker kept looking at me really strangely. Finally, the PhD student I knew came back laughing and said the coworker thought I was my supervisor's daughter.

I was 20. I had no words.

>>7440493
One of my colleagues got mistaken for a job-shadowing high school student. Since then she pretty much always wears her stethoscope at work.

>caring what strangers think about clothes you genuinely like

How is it being a tool?

can we get a list from where to buy all the cute j/k fash from ?

>bonbon21
>coconuts
>f21

>>7439839
ignore this bitch, wear what you want

>>7439839
>The hair screams daddy issues
No it looks cute, the only thing that's making it too childish is the pastel scrunchies.
>sweaters go OVER things, they are not shirts
People wear them as shirts all the time. I usually wear a camisole underneath if it's a loose sweater but sweaters don't -need- a shirt underneath.
>The skirt is waay too short for most daily situations, unless you wore cute, opaque leggings underneath.
It's a skirt/bloomers combo. They're basically shorts with a short fake skirt strip on the top so I disagree and they're fine without leggings.
>and you have to look right in the clothes. If you look old, that outfit will look freaky and pedophilic.
I agree on this
>Look like a really young girl? You'll just look stupid and like you can't dress yourself.
No not really in most cases.
The girl in the OP just doesn't look well dressed because she didn't match her boots with her top/scrunchies or bloomers. Also, the white stripes on the bloomers don't match with the top because the top has cream/off white stripes and the bloomers have pure white stripes and it looks off and doesn't match as a result.
If she matched her clothes better she would actually look really cute.
>Or like a prostitute.
What kind of prostitutes dress in sweaters and pastel clothes anyways?

>>7440465
>I still get carded despite being 22.
That is pretty normal, they're supposed to card anyone who looks under 40.

>>7440618

Well, I guess it would help that I said I was in a group with my (same aged) peers and I was the only one who got carded. Also, I live in a country where it's not normal to get carded for drinks.

>>7440438
I live in California, close to SF.
As long as your skirt isn't hyper short, the outfit isn't skanky, no one cares.
Sometimes you get chavs that talk smack, but they'll never say it to your face, and tend to wimp out when you address them directly about it. Just put on your big girl panties and dress how you want.
Fuck what boring people think.

>>7440585

Going to dump a bunch of links here. They're all general asian fashion, some cuter than others, but all can fit under some category of jfash I believe.

http://abc123.taobao.com/
http://missangle.taobao.com/
http://xiaozhuaya.tmall.com/
http://yemoli.taobao.com/
http://shop34121964.taobao.com/
http://mumuhome.taobao.com/
http://byrabbit.taobao.com/
http://bierxiong.taobao.com/
http://shop33688840.taobao.com/
http://mmtsw.taobao.com/
http://shop34397538.taobao.com/
http://520vivian.taobao.com/

Only store I can really vouch for quality is the missangle store. They have good stuff which lasted for me. I wasn't impressed with xiaozhuaya - the dress I got was very sheer despite having two layers, and wasn't terribly flattering on even flat chested me.

Because I have a uniform for work the only time I every really get to wear anything else is the weekend and only if I'm actually leaving the house. So yes, I do wear it out just not as often as I'd like to.

I wear them out all the time. Mostly when I have time in the morning though.
The only negativity I've gotten is being asked if I was cold or why I was so dressed up.

Just make sure if you're going to something like work or an event that what you're wearing is appropriate. There's no point in giving a fuck about what random strangers think.

I'm a bit plain today, but I went out in this and got a few compliments.
I really need my hair cut though. Looks so unkept compared to my clothes.

>>7440141
Is there really hate on twin tails? I wear them everyday all day and I think they look super cute, and models (Misako) wear them often too...

>>7440701
they look dumb on white girls, especially unstyled.

>>7440703
Well yeah, if they are 5-year-olds

>>7440701
Some people associate pigtails with little girls. They do they same with lolita and dressing up in costumes, so I don't get why seagulls call them dumb and call the girls who wear them pedobait.
Some people think it's dumb, just like some people think straight bangs are dumb. And how some people think not having bangs looks dumb. Some people thinks short hair looks dumb and others always pipe up against girls who have hair past their hips.
No one will be happy, so let's just be cute.

>>7440701
I like twin tails, but those look a little sad...

>>7440716
>TFW I looked like that as a kid
And I had massive eyebrows.
Thank you puberty.

>>7440438
Baby steps, anon. Baby baby steps. Maybe a cute oversized sweater/hoodie with a skirt and tights? Tights cover your legs so they don't feel exposed, hoodies are easy if you have them as a tomboy staple (I just ordered a really cute candy themed hoodie off aliexpress. Taobao, ebay, and ali are good if you want to branch out into feminine things), and a skirt UNDER the hoodie/sweater is a good way to get used to wearing skirts and dresses without feeling like it's there all the time and getting self-conscious. These all won't help with feeling insecure in general--that's a barrier you have to break through. You sort of have to live with that feeling for a bit (I've been there).

Hi, I have a question about what to expect with shipping when ordering from taobao. Does anyone know what the best service is, and about how much you can expect to pay in shipping by weight? Sorry, it's going to be my first time ordering soon and I want to make sure I have enough money for everything including shipping.

>>7440261
where do you live anon? anywhere is fine, as long as it's not the middle east

>>7440886
Depends what kind of shipping, where are you shipping, and the weight of your package. I usually leave aside ~$100 for a $200-300 order, but it usually only reaches ~$80 because I use SAL.

>>7440677
whoa, those gorgeous legs. I love your personal style, anon. This is classy and well put together.

>>7440701

>tfw all your normalfag colleagues wear twintails from time to time

I'm pretty sure you guys are just imagining the fetish here.

>>7440901
Ah sorry it was dumb of me to not specify that, though I can't expect you to calculate for my exact location either. $80 seems pretty reasonable though. Do you mind if I ask what was in your last order or if you remember about how much it weighed?

>>7440677
I love this. Where do you shop?

>>7440476
don't let your skin get in the way anon. i've struggled with poor skin since puberty and i just started going on the pill to help. it's a constant struggle. i really get you. why do you feel gross with foundation on? maybe if you use concealer for under your eyes and on any problem areas and/or pressed powder, that could help you. what i do now is concealer for under my eyes, concealer for my spots, liquid foundation, and powder. i also wear blush on top of that. i know it sounds like a lot, but this is my routine to looking and feeling good about myself. maybe you will feel more confident if you experiment with things like this.

also, if you're wearing cute clothes, people will be thinking about how adorable you are, not your skin. it's a great confidence booster.

>>7440903
It differs from area to area. A mormon village will have a different reaction than an art college town. Just because it isn't happening in your workplace doesn't mean that people elsewhere don't get shit for it.

>>7440476
I agree with >>7440915
I also had/have terrible skin. I struggled with cystic acne as a teenager and now have dark scars on my cheeks that make me feel horribly self concious, plus dark circles around my eyes.

Using concealer on darker skin and marks reduces them significantly. Personally, because my marks are super dark, I'll do my primer first then concealer, and if it's not enough the first time, powder on the problem areas, and then another layer of concealer until it's completely covered up. Then I do everything else, foundation, powder again, blush, etc. I don't know if this is common practice because it's hard for me to find tutorials for my specific issues but it does wonders on covering up my dark areas and I haven't had a problem with it creating more acne even though I basically cake on my make up.

Don't give up! Keep experiementing with make up until you find whats right for you, you'll get there soon.

>>7440903
I dont think its a fetish thing for me. I just think it looks stupid on white chicks if they high twintails. Asians pull it off better. Pic related. This cosplayer always wears her hair like this and its just like, 'Ugh girl you look stupid.'

>>7440908
My order weighed around 3-4kg if I remember correctly.

>>7440918

I'm just a little bemused. We need to dress fairly professionally, yet people don't seem to mind low-set twin tails. You could chalk it up to us having to have our hair up a lot.

I just didn't know hate for twin tails was widespread.

>>7440701
I'm mega kawaii and I can't pull twin tails off without coordinating my entire outfit around it.
Two routes for outfits:
>mature, classy.
Cute collared shirts and the like. Nothing too infantile, bows are risky. This is basically the only route you should take if you want to come off as "I just wanted twin tails today."

>ultra kawaii
Pedobait. Mini skirts, zettai ryouiki, etc.

They can be more mature-looking if they're teased/curled or just low and loose pigtails. Also this is just my opinion but they make bigger girls look even bigger. These girls I know at my uni don't understand this, it makes them seem like they're trying to compensate.

this thread is inspiring pigtail desires within me

>>7440924
she just has a gross face. It generally looks better if you have a younger face. Race has nothing to do with it. Also, her hair is pretty gross to begin with.
Eh, it's just a hair style. Honestly, not my business to tell people how to do their own hair.

>>7440613
Can't say much for pigtails except that not enough hair looks really, really bad. And high pigtails look infantile where I live, but it probably varies.

But that anon is right and sweaters, they are a layering item the equivalent of overshirts, sweatshirts and hoodies. Not quite outerwear, but it is a little trashy to wear them without an undershirt except for household/super casual wear or if they have a small neckline. Men can get away with no undershirt with a cashmere sweater, but the OP looks like a cheaper, knitted acrylic blend based on thickness and luster. She should really have some kind of undershirt peaking out, even camisole straps would be cute. But as it is, it's a very large neck gap and a lot of thigh for one outfit. Leaving the scarf on helps, but a little more coverage of one would look better.

And my conservative family would have an absolute heart attack if I walked down the street in a crotch-length frilly skirt, shorts or no. Maybe in big cities that passes okay, but around where I live that's really not appropriate, ever. Like, even stores that carried jeans with holes in the front of the thighs were picketed. Probably different where you live, but the middle-aged and older crowd isn't seeing it like you might.

And just saying, when I went to Vegas I did see a prostitute something like OP pic, only on a bleached-blonde, tanned, haggard old woman body. And her twintails were curled. And all the makeup. The clothes were pretty close, except it was a cotton shirt with sailor collar screen printing, not a sweater, and the boots were simpler with whore heels and a mary-jane peep toe ending.

>>7440988
>even stores that carried jeans with holes in the front of the thighs were picketed.
>Picketed!
Your town is crazy. Don't they have anything better to do? I get grumbled cranky old person sneers, but that's a little overboard. Sounds like they could probably accomplish something if they put all that boredom and energy towards fixing something important in our society.

>>7440988
I really really don't get the sweater nitpicking. I don't even think I've seen most magazine models have something under their sweaters unless it was a gauzy semi-see through deal. I've seen bra-straps under sweaters, not camisoles unless it was very cold weather.

>>7440988
The middle aged old crowd in states that aren't like yours didn't exactly wear ultra-covered conservative clothing in their 20s and 30s. We're talking about people in their prime in the 70s and 80s. So I highly doubt something like >>7439916 would incense the grand majority of elders.

>>7441003
The vibe in my town is really old-timey. I get less stares in classic lolita than short-shorts and a t-shirt. The religious vibe is kinda strong, not that anyone ever pushed their religion on me, but the moral feelings are all there. Considering most of the town is middle class and our homeless/crime rates are really low, I'd say we're doing fine. And to be fair, it was a trashy boutique that moved in selling high cropped belly-shirts, torn up clothes, etc. The argument is that by having massive tears rather than uniquely cut items, that it looked like it was promoting rape. I get it, since at least one shirt had some slogan like "2 hot 2 keep ur hands 2 ur self" or some other horrible thing running from front to back.

>>7441008
Would you wear a hoodie with no shirt underneath? It's the same kind of clothing item. It's just a little trashy. It's for layering, like vests. You wouldn't wear just a vest, would you? And magazine models aren't exactly known for wearing daily wear in the west. They do pretty much a high-fashion only kind of thing that even look-bookers wouldn't wear out of their house. It's not like vogue does street snaps. (Or do they? I might be horribly out of date.)

I wouldn't condemn anyone for wearing a sweater with no shirt, but it certainly doesn't look fashionable to me. It looks like you're lounging about the house, which is fine. But for a winter-themed outfit (hence the scarf), wouldn't the point be to layer for warmth? It just looks odd and clashy without a shirt of some sort.

Is that a taobao stock model or SpreePicky's own? Because no one at SpreePicky can coord for shit, apparently.

>>7441023
Yes, I'd wear a hoodie with no shirt underneath. No one is going to see that area, like, at all. Who is it trashy to? Myself?

Or by shirt do you mean bra in every instance?

Also vest...don't cover the same amount of space that a hoodie would. A hoodie completely covers your top. A vest covers the torso and zips open. Wait


are you assuming I mean a zip down hoodie every fucking time?

>>7441015
Oh no, that one is fine! I wore something similar before and got compliments. I was referring to the OP image, which is a bit too racy for where I live. The stockings and smaller neckline really pull the outfit into cute and appropriate category, if a little short on the skirt for my folks.

Overall Jfashion goes over well here, since it usually takes from the 80's or before. It's tears in clothes, and showing too much leg that cause problems. Asia in general shows far more leg and far less cleavage than the US, and around where I live any cleavage other than on the hottest days of summer looks really out of place. And people don't show much higher than mid thigh unless it's swim time.

>>7441034
Ah, makes sense!

>>7441033
You are one dense broad. You a slut? cuz only sluts wear hoodys with only a bra underneath. gtfo of our fashion board, you clearly have no fashion sense

>>7439917
>strange looks was when I wore bear tights
It's usually envy. Who wouldn't want to wear bear tights

I wear it everywhere, barring work, where I have a uniform. Shopping, school, outings that don't require more fancy or comfortable attire, etc. I just paid shipping for a $500 Taobao order of cute clothes, you bet I'm going to wear it all out.

I don't get any stares or rude comments, and if I do, I don't notice them, but that's probably because I try to actively avoid this. I always feel like I'm being silently judged very negatively for the way I dress, among other things. That could be true, or it could just be paranoia, either way I don't really want to know, because I like the way I dress and would rather just be blissfully unaware of any actual negativity.
I do get compliments once in a while, though. I live in Cali if that makes a difference, but not a big city where alternative clothing has more exposure.

I actually just wore something similar to the pic in OP today. Pigtails, big sweater, skirt, but thigh high socks instead of boots. I felt like the hair and thigh highs might have been a little much. The hair because it seemed a bit childish I guess, but I'm not sure why for the sock thing.

>>7441046
stay mad, and enjoy your sandy vagina

>>7441046
lol I wore a hoodie with no shirt OR bra underneath for most of middle school

I must be a slut.

It had nothing at all to do with the fact that it was more comfortable and made me a more comfortable temperature or anything.

OP I wear outfits like this every day. School, grocery store, shopping, to my bf's house. Every day I wear shorts or a skirt with high socks (or ankle socks if its hot, of course). Its the only everyday clothes I own now.

I live in a small town full of old white people who give me bad looks for wearing lolita. In this kind of jfashion though Ive only ever gotten compliments, really. In my senior year of highschool I was one of the nominees for best dressed. (I'm sorry if this is coming off as bragging, I just want to let you know that you can dress this way, and you should just be confident!)

Once or twice ive gotten the "cute socks" thing from guys. A few other times some otaku-looking guys hit on me. But for the most part its normal people telling me I look nice and dress nice.

I'd say the key to making it look more "proper" is to always wear a nice blouse, and on cold days, a nice sweater with a blouse under it. I never show my cleavage, ever, and generally I cover my arms all the time. >>7440677 is a good example of keeping it nice and proper. Here you see she has a blouse, a neck tie, and a fashionable coat. Her upper half is completely covered and generally shapeless (not that thats a bad thing, if anything thats a GOOD thing).

>>7439777 OP pic might get stares, but only the side without the scarf. Exposing your collarbone draws attention to the skin there, while the cute scarf look is more modest-looking, even though her thighs are exposed. It makes the difference of dawwww and pedobait.

Of course, this is all just my experience and opinion.

PS, I was thinking of buying >>7439797 actually. It should really be fine if you wear it proud and with a cute blouse.

>>7441033
They mean a vest as in a camisole, I think. Not a sleeveless hoodie/bodywarmer thing.

>>7441083
No, I think they mean an actual vest given that they used the word camisole previously and...what do you wear under a camisole other than a bra since they're saying it would be strange not to wear a shirt under ( > It's for layering, like vests. You wouldn't wear just a vest, would you?)? How deep are your layers going?

>>7441046
holy shit
>being this mad over something so stupid

>>7441093
Idk what you mean by "Actual vest" Because what you're describing would never be called a vest here. Vests are a type of underwear.

I'm guessing you're talking about a sleeveless jumper hoodie, or something to that effect?

>>7441105
dif anon.
i'm guessing you've never heard of a denim vest.

>>7440438

>>7441080 (You) here. Pic related is me 3 years ago. I only wore black pants and I was disgusting and my hair was a mass and I never wore make-up and I almost didnt block out my face because I am unrecognizably (I hope) ugly.

It really is about baby steps. The first change I'd do is to take off those black pants and switch it over for a black skirt, black tights (+ black OTKs if its cold) and black boots. Baby steps. Eventually you'll be able to venture out and do different things. Maybe try doing your make up really girly while still wearing your normal clothes? Give yourself some really cute subtle winged eyeliner, a nice complexion, pink blush, and pink lips. You'll be able to do it! Because you should do whats in your heart!

[deleted my last post and reposting now because I dropped pic]

>>7441023
>>7441033
>>7441083
>>7441093
>>7441105
>>7441110
stop

yep, everywhere! most of my wardrobe is monochrome (black, white, and cream) so i tend to wear combinations of those things. baggy cardigan + taobao blouse, thigh highs and combat boots or kitten heels like pic related

any stares received can probably be attributed to the tights, but it's a pretty standard getup otherwise

>>7441136
holy language barrier, Batman. I guess i learned something new. I was generally confused about what the previous vest posts were about.

Are there really girls out there who don't wear a shirt with a hoodie? That's some straight ghetto shit up in here. No class. I don't wear sweaters, so I'll keep quiet about that.
>All lolita all the time.<

>>7441138
Super cute outfit. And I love that cardigan especially. I'm looking forward to spring weather so I can finally wear my baggy cardigans.

>>7441142
Pull over hoodies and sweaters don't really drape well with a cami underneath. The friction keeps things a little stiff and boxy and when I see the shirt underneath stick out all it reminds me of is middle aged white people wearing pull-over hoodies (with food/college/sports team/I Got This For Free logos), pale as shit jeans, and keds/payless sneakers.

>>7441142
get over yourself. If i'm running to the grocery store or doing laundry, i'm usually just wearing a hoodie. I'm small chested, so i dont have to wear a bra for such minimal tasks. Not everyone has to fit your view of what looks good. Wearing a hoodie or baggy cardigan without a shirt underneath isnt going to harm anyone because -you- dont like it.

>>7441142
>Are there really girls out there who don't wear a shirt with a hoodie?

the fact that you dont know that it happens while tons of girls do it show it doesnt matter.

>omg thats so ghetto
>omg well you didnt even fucking notice

>>7441142
yes, people do. Hm, what a world we live in. People doing things that dont bother or directly affect other people.

>>7441138
where do you shop, anon...

The whole sweater/hoodie and undershirt thing. The undershirt is to prevent waredrobe malfunctions. That is, breasts and nipples popping out. I figure I should be frank since we're having issues with terminologies.
Here's how we should be looking at this: If the sweater is cut in a way that you cannot tell if someone is wearing an undershirt or not, do what you want! It's not like anyone can tell.
If the sweater is off the shoulder, short, loose-knit, baggy at the neck- wear an undershirt. Because your titties and midriff are going to be exposed. We have these ideas of what is acceptable for tangible reasons. This one is for modesty. Modesty as in covering up the parts of the body we are not supposed to be exposing. If they aren't being exposed, there is no reason to enforce this 'rule'.

I like wearing undershirts because I don't like the feeling of knits and sweatshirts against my skin. If I enjoyed the sensation, I'm sure I'd go without.

>>7441149
Bitch please, you too lazy to put on panties next?

>>7441145
A loose sweater ain't gonna bunch up because you have a bra and fitted undershirt on. Now you're just making excuses.


>>7441150
How bout not even a hood bitch would run around in just bra and hoodie unless she knows she's a hoe? At that point she'd zip it down and let you know, too.

Ghetto is ghetto. If you wanna be a ghetto hoe, be a ghetto hoe. Embrace it. Don't try to play off like you're some fine, classy bitch if putting on a shirt it too much work for you. I bet you prefer no blouses with your JSK and fishnet stockings instead of socks.

I definitely wear that style on a daily basis

I've only ever gotten compliments on my clothes

>>7440914
>>7441156
Other than the bunny tights, none of what they're wearing requires one to shop at some sort of specialty boutique. Check out the Taobao thread >>7438615
This anon also has a nice list of specific stores >>7440638

>>7441023
Woow, what happened in here? I just meant that I thought a sweater or hoodie with no undershirt was unfashionable. My opinion...on how fashionable it was and how people around me would see it. My old-people, yuppie town. I didn't mean to start all this drama.

>>7441161
I hope nobody is dumb enough to reply to this.

>>7441161
I'm not really posting this for your benefit since you seem to suck at even shitposting in an entertaining way but here's some truefacts for sweater peeps:

It's not about bunching, it's the fact that the sweater is going to hug every curve on you with the cami there--which is fine if you want to accentuate your breasts and hips or make even make your breasts look larger. I'll even go so far as to say that if you have little to no breasts or curve and sort of go straight up and down that this doesn't apply to you. A cami won't effect anything.

But the drape that's popular with J and K fash isn't one that clings to those areas, but a sort of bag near the hip, or no bag at all--just the sweater going straight down.

Of course if you've got a blouse that could peek out in a cute way (collar and sleeve), well, there's something a lot better than a cami that you could wear and preserve your high class Why I've Never Heard of the Bronx modesty.

>>7441176
i'm definitely staying away from that b8

>>7441181
Btw wear a good bra with your cami if you wear it under the sweater. If it clings, you run the risk of sag bagging it and looking like your tits end two inches under where they actually do

>>7441181
Where can I get that specific sweater? Tried googling but only found similar heart cut out sweaters, but not exactly the same.

>>7441080
Man the left in your pic related would be my daily wear. I just hate that the only stuff like that I can find are all cheap china shit. I want a nice pleated green plaid skirt and knitted jumper that'll last me more than 40 wears and still look good you know.

>>7441228
Try thrifting and hunt the vintage tag on etsy. The older wool and wool blend stuff like this is built to last.

>>7440902
>>7440914
Thanks! I really love otome,
Everything is from the thrift store but the brands are:
Jacket-Talula
Blouse-Robert Rodrigez
Vest-costa blanca
Skirt-No tag but it's probably from China
Shoes-T.U.K creeper platforms I got on sale for $20
Scarf-unknown, cashmere and angora
I think this whole thing cost me $27-32

If you really like clothes, Vancouver is a goldmine for thrifting and Richmond has a bunch of stuff from Japan, China, and Korea.

But lately I've gotten a lot of similar stuff from Taobao from shops like Mumuhome

Where do you guys buy your thigh highs? I used to wear mine on the daily but they've finally gone and ripped(though they weren't very thigh high on me in the first place), and none of my tights last for more than a month.
>>7440972
I don't know9not that anon but), I have a pretty young and "full" face, but I feel silly in pigtails unless they're low set and the person has nice hair.

My favorite kind on anyone is the puffy kind girls with really curly hair can do and the kind young black girls sometimes have. I find them super adorable.
>>7441080
I love the skirt on the left and the dress is adorable on you
>>7441138
dat cardigan, dem shoes, those calves

Here's a semi-relevant story I came across the other day regarding those cat tights that mimic thigh highs

> Be waiting at bus stop with friend
> Old woman comes up to me staring at cat faces on tights
> "LET ME LOOK AT YOUR PUSSY"
> Friend loses his shit
> "Oh be quiet boy I just wanted to look at the cats"
> I just smile awkwardly and look at the floor trying to hold my composure.

>>7439777

I once wore those thights that looks like you are wearing strap ons - ended up with a creepy guy following me home, constantly askng me if I have a boyfriend and if I would consider cheating on my boyfriend with him etc? I was scared as fuck, thank god my neighbour came out of her house and yelled at him so he ran away.

I do not wear OTK and skirts because my legs are too chubby for that, but I do wear a lot of j-fashion, casual Lolita, Otome or just cute Outfits in general.
I get a lot of stares, even though my outfits are not OTT or anything, but everyone dressed in something else than jeans/t-shirt gets a lot of stares. I live in a big city, and we do have a small percentage of alternative fashion, but otherwise it's jeans/t-shirt. I get a lot of stares from old people, but not in a good way... I dont know why, my outfits are not revealing or anything, just a bit different. My own grandma even asked me (very concerned) if my clothes were part of a radical political party or a new religious cult...
Even at Uni I get stares all the time; I study German/English and we have a big Japanese department, still everyone is baffled when someone is dressed in more than T-shirt and Jeans. I often get comments like "Why are you so dressed up?!", "How long did your hair/outfit took you in the morning?!", "Why all the effort?!" On the other hand, I do get some compliments and people generally leave me alone.

In general, I get a lot of stares. I dont mind, it is normal to look at someone who is dressed in an alternative fashion, but some people tend to stare in a really rude way. I just try to ignore it. After reading the horror stories that are posted here from time to time, I am glad that I usually do not get anything worse than stares.

>>7441303
I used to get a lot of that, but then I moved to the city of Hipsters and Asians. I still get questions, but it's usually compliments now or asking if I'm cold.

My dad thinks I look like a prostitute in otome and mori even though I'm covered head to toe even if my leg is "exposed" due to most skirts and dresses coming up short. Though I always wear titghts/thigh highs and the top half of me is always covered and usually not very fitted if at all.

>tfw have tons of cute clothes
>tfw every time I leave my house wearing anything cutesy I stop at the front door and start freaking out
>tfw can't go through with it and end up running upstairs to change into jeans and a sweater
>tfw once I tried to go to school in a skirt and tights and a nice sweater and even that was too much
>tfw ended up getting so anxious I couldn't go to class
>tfw will never be cute

>>7441332
your dad sounds like a self entitled prick. Wow.

>>7441336
chill anon, the only person who cares for more than a second is you

granted I know that feel, but you got to keep pushing yourself and eventually you'll get out of it. Being objective helped me.

>>7441303
>when normalfags ask why i'm dressed up
Because i want to look nice. Unlike you, jeans and t-shirt-kun. That shit annoys me. Like, why do I have to have a reason for you?

A few summers ago I was waiting for a tram wearing a Hell Bunny skirt (tartan pattern and corseted waist with a lot of poof), a plain black sleeveless shirt and sandals when a man at least 40 years older than me began hitting on me, asking me if I was a foreigner, where I was going and if I was married (he was gypsy/gitano and they usually marry very young). I said I had a boyfriend but he kept badgering me until his tram came.

I took the next one (different line as his), and at the next stop suddenly the man comes inside my car and sits by my side, trying to convince me to go on a date with him or give him my number. He got down a few stops later and I was terrified because he had me cornered against a window and there was no one else in the car to help me.

It's the biggest scare I've ever had wearing weird clothes, but since then I've never dared to wear that skirt again if I was alone.

>>7441340
He's kind of bi-polar but not a bad guy otherwise. Just very traditional in some senses.
At the very least he meant I looked like a high class escort. So at least I looked expensive. I just laughed it off.

>>7441345
traditional and close minded aren't the same. You dont treat your daughter that way either. Glad my dad doesn't pull that shit.

>>7441348
Not saying it's right, hence I laughed it off. If he had done some shit like not allow me outside or constantly said shit like that, then it would be a problem. Luckily he's not that kind of crazy.

>>7441332
Ask your dad to hook you up with those well-dresses prostitutes he apparently visits so you can share fashion tips.

I usually wear Himekaji and Aomoji kei and do get stares and such. I'm allowed to wear whatever I want at work (as long as it's not extremely revealing) and I've been working there for about three years. 90% of the customers are regulars and they're always really sweet about my outfits and compliment me a lot. Outside of work I haven't gotten anything horrible enough to scare me out of wearing cutesy styles. The worst negative reactions are usually from middle aged women. They usually look me up and down really rudely or roll their eyes at me. I don't mind, really, as you're not going to please everyone so I don't even bother.

What I have noticed is that whenever I wear pigtails and thigh highs (or those mock thigh high stockings) I get a lot of older men hitting on me. It's an extremely reoccurring thing and it gets really creepy at times but I love cute fashion so much I just deal with it.

But I'm not going to say "JUST WEAR WHATEVER YOU WANT AND FUCK EVERYONE" because it doesn't work like that. Everyone's different. Some people, like myself, feel safe and comfortable in different fashions and some people feel extremely exposed and anxious.

>but is it really acceptable to wear overly cutesy and "different" things casually?
As long as you're keeping to yourself, you should wear whatever you want.

>>7441368
10/10 comeback

>>7439879
>tfw i japanese schoolgirl'd our uniform up with pleats and errthang
>tfw people loved it

>>7439917
>tfw i got complimented wearing the cat ones on the street
>tfw white girl in my class glared at me and up and down'ed me

>>7440141
>who brought it up in this thread, but in general I've seen it sneered at on /cgl/.
>People associate OTK+short skirt with wearing a catholic school girl fetish costume and it sounds like the consensus here is "fuck them, wear your socks." Why the turn around with pigtails? It's literally the same thing, with people assuming that you're doing a school girl fetish thing.
>tfw hair too thin to twintail

>>7440585
coconuts often overprices some of their stuff and you can get some of it cheaper elsewhere.

>>7440677
you could wear a potato sack and still look good

>>7441296
BAHAHAHAHA old people are hilarious

>>7441342

>>7441303 anon here.
I hate this question, too. If I got a dollar everytime friends, family or random strangers asked me this question, I could buy a whole new closet with burando.
I think its so annoying and rude. Why do you care? Even if I have a reason to be dressed up, it is probably nne of your buisness.

What I hate the most is when I say something polit like "Just for me" or "I like it", people get this... pitiful look in their eyes, and you can see them thinking "Why would you waste your time to get dressed up just for yourself?!" or "Wow. She cares so much about her appereance, she must be some kind of superficial dumb bitch".

>>7439797
i don't think you shouldn't stop yourself from getting it if you really want it

does anyone know where rompers&jumperskirts like this are sold on taobao or aliexpress? all i've seen is overpriced sellers on storenvy, thanks in advance!

>>7441296
I want to believe..

stupid question but are there any major differences between J and K fashion?
What do the chinese do? Just knock off the other two?

>>7441494
It's kinda hard to explain, but I always see Kfash as being more subdued, and easier to play off in a Western setting, since it tends to just look like your average "pretty, mature" clothing, whereas Jfash is more cutesy and "innocent."

Kfashion also places tons of emphasis on the legs, since Koreans don't like to show their chests/ upper arms, but they'll wear shorts and skirts in the dead of winter. When you look at Kfashion photos, you'll always notice the jeans are straight leg or skinnies, or if they're in skirts/dresses, it's not too often paired with thigh highs, which is common in Jfash. So, with Korean fashion, it's okay to have a really top heavy outfit, paired with plain tights and high heels (another thing- you rarely see Korean style photos where they're wearing flats/platform shoes like you do in Japanese street shots).

With Jfash, it's the overall look and feel of an outfit. Jfash is fond of layers, with two or three layers of tank -> shirt -> sweater not being uncommon at all, and baggy clothing also being popular because it's cute. I guess you could say it's more cluttered, because you'll often see snaps with girls wearing necklaces, bracelets, rings, a large bag that goes with the general theme of the outfit, layers, and big shoes, not even counting the coloured hair, which you never, ever see in Kfash unless it's milk tea brown.

>>7441080 would be more Jfashion, and >>7440677 is more Kfashion, imo.

Oh, and online, the Korean photos always have some kind of filter. That's one of the best giveaways if you're not certain.

>>7441516
I definitely had a picture attached. Kfash on the left, Jfash on the right.

>>7440988
>when I went to Vegas I did see a prostitute something like OP pic, only on a bleached-blonde, tanned, haggard old woman body.
>And her twintails were curled
>And all the makeup
>The clothes were pretty close, except it was a cotton shirt with sailor collar screen printing
>not a sweater
>and the boots were simpler
>with whore heels and a mary-jane peep toe ending
>something like OP pic
So basically she looked almost nothing like OP's picture?
What you described is what a prostitute would wear, the girl in OP's picture isn't wearing any of those prostitute like things.

>>7441516
>Kfashion also places tons of emphasis on the legs, since Koreans don't like to show their chests/ upper arms
God bless the Koreans.
>tfw fat girl with horribad arms and saggy tits but great legs from years of soccer/rugby

>>7441494
I'm wondering this too. I love asian fashion and even I don't really know the difference.
I think that K fashion is a little more mature and less matchy or defined than J fashion. But I'm interested to hear what others think/know.

Thanks for all the responses, guys. I guess I'll just slowly move into dressing how I want.

I'm not TOOOO worried about what people think of me, it's just that I buy/train/sell horses and you'd be surprised at how every little thing can change how a client treats you.. The horse world is nuttier than the chinese cartoon world.

>>7441470
>does anyone know where rompers&jumperskirts like this are sold on taobao or aliexpress?

Here's the link to the one I posted - http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-5945248115.33.BlFWc6&id=36171284899

>>7439839
>How terrible did you look that someone said something negative?
I can't really prove how good I looked because I don't have the specific outfit anymore, but it wasn't bad. It was black OTKs with mary janes, a black skirt and cashmere sweater and a shirt underneath. Sounds a lot worse than it actually was. Dunno why I'm responding to this though.. Aheh.

>By the sounds of your OP, you look far too old for your clothes.
I'm 18.

The worst I've gotten with thigh high shorts is this guy asking for a photo.

The usual is that get are stares, or a comment as to where I got my fake kitty tights.

OP I attempt to dress like this, and I don't ever really get any rude comments. I live in a very rural college town in Georgia full of rednecks so that should tell you something. A lot of times people compliment me on the way I dress or just ask what the occasion is (none). I own a lot of fluffy blouses, OTKs, lace/floral dresses, and frilly socks. Photos aren't my best outfits, but those are the only ones I have on this phone.

>>7441530
This would be the difference regarding the streetstyles of Korea and Japan.

>>7441191
Wish I could help you. Just tried looking for it and got
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/111292914979?lpid=82 some bodycentral stuff, and etsy. It was probably part of that cutout trend from months back

>>7441834
> I live in a very rural college town ..... full of rednecks

Are you my Georgian sister?

I live in the same kind of town here in Pennsylvania. I have similar experiences with compliments/questions.

>>7441859
>>7441519
Thanks for these!

>>7441138
>>7440677
>>7441834
You guys have great legs for this! I wish I had more height in just that area. I'm 5'0" and I wish I knew how to make my legs look even a little longer so I can pull these off (I have heels but also work 8 hour shifts at work)

I want to wear all these cute taobao clothes but I'm 5'6 and I think they would all be too short.

>>7442117
On the plus side I'm pretty sure that french site someone linked is made for people your height!

>>7439839
>The hair screams daddy issues
I fucking hate this shit. When did pigtails get slutty? Because of bad pornos using them? When done well, pigtails are cute as hell.

>tfw want to wear thigh highs and be cute
>muscly and fuck thighs and calves
I can't look kawaii. ;_;

>>7442052
Haha it's weird. I always get redneck dudes saying they like my cute socks or pretty dresses

>>7442095
I'm >>7441834 and I'm 4'11"! I'm just skinny, and I think I have longer legs than torso? Heels help a ton, otherwise I do look short and stumpy :(

>>7442193
People are idiots. I dont know how a hair style can somehow make you a certain way. But people are always going to generalize and jugde because they watch too much tv or read shitty articles

>>7442199
maybe you should change your diet and run more/do more cardio and less toning for your bottom half?

>>7442210
Would that really help? I eat fairly healthy, and run every so often. I've seriously had soccer player legs since as long as I can remember.

>>7442199
>5' 3"
>like cycling and squats
>guads like a Pillar Man
IKTFG

Just wear it wherever.

I wore it to the mall one day and got stares from these middle-aged housewives. They started laughing and whispering to each other, so I stared at their outfits (yoga pants, uggs, you know the drill) in an obvious manner and started laughing at them. After I had made sure they witnessed me do that, I did some out loud thinking saying "What a bunch of petty, badly dressed old hags."

They looked devastated. I'm horrible. It felt so good, though.

>>7441859
Omg. I want that pastel shirt with the really long sleeves.

>>7442273
>I'm horrible
Nah, they deserved it. What a bunch of mid-life crisis cunts.

>>7439839
Post one of your outfits.

>>7442273
You need to be my friend. That's awesome. I love calling people out on their bullshit too.

>>7442206
Really?! Dang, that's amazing! You look so tall!

>>7441834
What's your routine?
I would kill for legs like those.

>>7442318
>>7442281
They didn't feel to good when I gave them a taste of their own medicine, haha.

>>7442577
I lay in my bed all day and eat frosting out of a tub. Hahah :( I'm not much help really..I am kind of a skinny fat (very petite, but I have a flabby tummy). I do walk around a lot on campus though!

>>7442648
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck youuuuuuuuuuuu why didn't I win the genetic lottery...

>>7442273
How were you sure they were saying rude things about you?

I don't mean to insult your deductive reasoning or anything (I don't know what other kind of cues they might have given; you were there, I wasn't). But I only ask this because it's just that in my (albeit limited) experience sometimes people whisper and smile/laugh when they're excited or astonished by something.

I could just as easily imagine them whispering "Look at her! She reminds me of my youth!" or "I wish I was still young enough to pull something like that off!" or "I've never seen a girl her age dressed like that! (positively)"

When you said they looked "devastated" rather than, say, "furious" or "pissed off" or even "ashamed," I immediately thought it's possible you misunderstood.

>>7442702
It's probably a tone thing, coupled with the fact that obvious whispering and staring are considered pretty rude here , especially in full grown adults.

>>7442648
hahaa I feel you...as long as I cover the very tops of my thighs and my tummy no one can tell.

Yay for thights! I like my legs shape but don't have nice smooth spotless legs although I would like to wear shorts when it hot.

>>7441859
okay you're taking the most extreme example of japanese fashion - check out a japanese street snap site that DOESN'T focus on harajuku/shibuya and you'll see a lot of snaps similar to the top

(not that I don't adore the style on the bottom, but not everyone in japan dresses like that)

>>7441080
Oh hai Cloud-ia (Sandy?)

>>7442702
>How were you sure they were saying rude things about you?

I heard them. They were saying "Look, I bet it's one of those people on Strange Addictions! God, there's so many freaks in this town." They weren't very good at their whispering.

>>7439777
I'm not comfortable in anything since once I got laughed at for wearing purple socks..is it weird to wear purple socks?

>>7439777
Requesting sauce for everything


holy shit this is so fucking cute

>>7439916
this outfit is so cute! <3

>>7439917
I have these and the kitty ones but I saw my friend's gf wearing them and she has those super skinny "thinspo" kind of legs if maybe a few lbs shy of thigh gapping.

I can never wear them again I'm so self conscious now of my super thick latina thighs. Even when my legs do thigh gap (I've put on some weight so they don't right now) my thighs are still super thick. I get down to a 22" waist and still have 37" hips. :/

Anyway, I'm 25 and I wear overly cutesy attire, pigtails and bows in hair included. I wore this to meet my crush and I had pigtails in ringlets but it was still an attempt at "toning down"

>>7444156
I get that it's hard to dress large differences, but that dress is too big, the cardigan looks random, so it makes you look kind of frumpy.
Your thighs are fine

>>7444231
I usually wear larger sizes and play around with a mori sort of look. The cardigan is wrinkled in the pic but I just snapped it because I don't have a full sized mirror so I was trying on stuff to meet him in. It got washed and ironed before I actually wore it out. I usually wear a cardigan with about everything because I like to be covered up. He said I looked cute but now I'm worried how he'd see me if I was less toned down. This is as normal as my attire gets.

Do you really think the cardigan was a bad idea? I flew out to see him so I wanted pieces I could use again. I wore the dress as a long skirt the next day and buttoned the cardigan to wear as a top.

>>7444054
Oh, okay. I'm sorry you had to go through that, anon!

>>7444156
>I can never wear them again I'm so self conscious now of my super thick latina thighs. Even when my legs do thigh gap (I've put on some weight so they don't right now) my thighs are still super thick. I get down to a 22" waist and still have 37" hips. :/

Girl, I have 21" thighs at their thickest (and a 27" waist by comparison. While not the smallest, the waist/thigh ratio is pretty drastic there anyhow). And obviously I will never have a thigh gap in my life (even at my skinniest I didn't).

But fuck if I let that stop me from wearing my kitty tights.

I usually wear flared or pleated skirts, and my shorts are flared too so optically, my legs look skinnier in comparison. And having thick legs is not so bad, as long as they're not flabby from rampant laziness. Which is me right now so I should really work on that, not only for appearances' sake but also for my health.

i guess it depends of where you live. i wear tall socks with short shorts or skirts at work from time to time and nobody seems to care much

>>7444432
I have almost 23 inch thighs at their thickest and a 26 inch waist. My hips are 41 inches. Euughh... hate my body sometimes. I can achieve thigh gap pretty easily though probably due to the sheer width of my hips... I even have one now (as far as I can tell?)

>>7444492
Checking on measurements from a couple years ago, they were 24.5 inches then so wow! My working out and everything has been slowly doing something. I feel a bit better now and more motivated.

>>7444156
Anon, your legs look fine!

>>7444244
Yeah the cardigan was a bad idea.I would've belted the dress (unless that is a belt, in which case it's too loose), and gone for a shorter cardigan. Your legs, however, are totally fine.

>>7444492
>>7444495
I feel that way too, sometimes. tbqh the reasons I hate it the most is because of how difficult is it to find pants that fit. Like, fuck, if it fits the thighs, it's too big on my hipbones, or waist. But I find that is pretty easy to hide by dressing well. But good on you, for real. My legs got a bit smaller when I worked out regularly. Before they got muscular, anyway. Now it's back to flab though, haha.

>>7444156
>22" waist

Goddamn it I'm so fucking jelly. Even when I was at my skinniest I could never get below a 23 inch waist. My body is so boxy and weird.

>>7442274
If you're talking about the third to last on the bottom row, I'm pretty sure it's from galaxxxy and they have a global shop.

>>7444432
>>7444492
23" thighs at a 26" waist with 40.5" hips

fml anons

>>7444511
B-but you can't see my legs?

>>7444608
I feel you anon.

You guys, your legs probably look fine...jesus. Girls of almost any size can look cute. You'll feel empty if you devote so much energy to empty things. Just wear what makes you feel the cutest!

>>7444432
this anon gets it

also, some summer k-fash for everyone

>>7439839
woah, so bitter

I really want to wear those cat tights but I fear my thighs will be way too huge for them. Does anyone know what the weight limit would be to actually look good in them?

>>7444728
I'm also impressed with the level of venom in that post. dem jimmies be rustled

>>7444745
Just order a pair from ebay, they're as cheap as $7, and if you feel they look terrible, you can stop wearing them out.

From my experience on legs like mine (I'm >>7444432 ) they look ok, not too stretched out. On really wide legs the image will get warped, eventually, and look a bit weird. But if you're OK with fat kitties on your legs, then it's fine I guess! Haha.

Sockdreams also has their own version, which might fit a bit better than the stuff you get on taobao. http://www.sockdreams.com/products/cat-tights:12619

And since I'm mentioning Sockdreams, it goes without saying that for any gals with big thighs who want thigh highs that fit properly, this is the place to go.

>>7444711
thanks dude. I try. I mean, it's really important to keep healthy and challenge yourself and improve but some things will never change. I will always be a (mostly) rectangle with giant thighs so I might as well learn how to dress myself cute.

>>7444533
This honestly baffles me. I have classic hourglass shape, short but still about 28", kinda skinny but untoned. I can't even imagine a whole 6" just not being there, how is this even possible

>>7444538
Thanks anon. I'm not seeing it on their website though. Damn.

>>7439916
>I wear jfashion and kfashion every day
>I only get compliments or ignored
>I am also asian
Well I guess there's no mystery here why this person never gets ugly looks.

>>7440438
I used to be like this. I pretty much lived in tshirts. boot-cut jeans, and converse. Felt most comfortable in that, felt like cute clothing was just wasted on me because other girls would look cuter in it anyways.

Then one day I looked in the mirror and was disgusted at what I saw and told myself that I was to young to be dressing this dumpy. Decided I would get rid of all my dumpy clothes and change them for cutesy pieces, and only have a wardrobe of cute items so even when I'm in a rush to get dressed, my outfit will still be cute (from only having cute things to chose from). It took over the period of 4 years buying new things when I could afford it before that finally came to be.

>>7444845
Oh please, anon. Being asian and sticking with the fashion every day isn't automatic protection.

>>7444533
Same. I'm at my lowest now at 25" since like, middleschool where I was a huge fatty until senior year of high school. I just want to get down to 23, at least. My shoulders are so dang broad and I'm boxy as well. Honestly, if I had bigger hips, big enough to offset my huge freaking shoulders, I probably wouldn't give a crap about my waistline anymore. I just want to look even.

>>7444608
>>7444701
This looks amazing, anons. Bigger thighs would really even me out, but that's not where my fat wants to go... I'd kill to look like this. Curse my fat deposits.

Anyone have experience getting Taobao orders shipped to Japan?

>>7444492
Would loooove a picture.

>>7439916
>>7439917
>>7440677
>>7441138

where the hell do you all live?
I live in the UK and this is normalfag clothing.

>>7442183
Link? I'm not seeing it, sorry

>>7439777
The thing that I *really* hate about OP pic outfit is the cheap boots. A pet peeve of mine is that a lot a j-fashion clothes look like their made out of very cheap materials. Yeck.

>>7445179
This.

>>7439917
cute stockings!

>>7439777
>>7439797
>>7439916
>>7441382
I live in Brisbane, Australia and have never, ever gotten anything other than positive reactions for dressing in these styles.
If anything, people seem relieved to not see another valley girl skank.

Elderly people, middle-aged, metalheads, even random teenagers will compliment and say how cute things are.

Maybe America is just.. Like that?

>>7455465
It tends to be. People in the US like to look down on anything different. Obviously there are some people who don't care/really like seeing different things but alot fall under the "If some people don't like it, I won't like it either!"
Which is why you have people in the stereotypical yoga pants and uggs giggling snottily at someone for wearing something as simple as a skirt and tights.

On another note, in KS, if you wear something like that people think you either worship the devil or are an art student in one of the local colleges (which is the same thing to them)

TL;DR
>Maybe America is just like that?
>Yes.

>>7442941
Agreeing on you with that. Tights and thigh-high stockings save my life. I usually keep my outfits and accesories simple but I will go all out on tights to have a more interesting balance.

You know what I don't get about J-Fashion? (Besides the fact that this girl looks like she's 8 years old and that creeps my shit out.)

That looks like shit. The whole concept of it. The sweater is cute, but you say the boots are cheap and they're the most interesting thing on the outfit. The skirt looks like it's from Walmart.

Why is it that Lolitas are huge label queens?

Most of the outfits you guys post up that you pay hundreds to thousands of dollars for I could make not only cheaper/prettier/custom fit, but they'd be better made. And don't go crying "but the prints", because there's tons of custom fabric online that's still cheap and wonderful. (Then again I don't just make costumes, I tailor real garments. But you guys could easily learn to do that?)

I'm just curious why Lolitas don't just learn to sew. It seems like they have solid opinions on what they like and don't like.

>>7455564
A lot of lolitas do sew, but screen printing embroidery is beyond most peoples' reach. A lot of the prints in lolita are really intricate and can't be replicated even by a professional. The price tends to reflect the work done, and most indie brands charge the same as larger ones because the dresses actually cost that much to produce for profit.

I get the feeling that it's mostly thin legged and above average height girls who get away or even get praised for j-fashion. Even the crazier outfits seem like a concious informed fashion choice on them.

Meanwhile I'm 5'1" and while not chubby, I do have a naturally thick build with big breasts, wide hips and round, touching thighs. I feel like even the cutest most innocent taobao stuff automatically becomes scandalous when I put it on. Or looks like it's two sizes too small, even though it fits perfectly. The fact that it's designed with tiny straight frame in mind certainly doesn't help.
I'm short and have a young looking face yet still I feel like a soccer mom in a halloween schoolgirl costume because of my figure. I just want to be kawaii in that bobon21 dress...

At least I still have lolita, hiding my huge thighs and emphasizing waist...

>>7455564
Well first of all the OP image isn't lolita.
And there are a ton of lolitas who sew their own dresses.. maybe you should actually learn about the fashion before criticizing it?

>>7455503
Don't they realize that wearing yoga pants and uggs makes them look unwashed and gross?

>>7455564

>Why do people buy things from well established brands known for quality when you can buy stuff from me, some anonymous person on a message board and it'll be better quality!

>>7455564
1.) That girl doesn't look 8 years old, there are many normal and healthy body types for adult women. This kind of body type is exceedingly normal for east asians, don't even know why I have to say this.

2.) Can't argue with that. I like it but that's just muh taste.

3.) Not all lolitas are obsessed with burando

4.) There is a huge community for sewing lolita stuff, it's honestly not that much smaller than the lolita community at large. I totally agree about the printed fabric, tho. >>7455567 Has a point about the intricacy of some of the prints, but I've seen some pretty dope prints on spoonflower and whatnot before that are quite intricate.

>>7455564
At least post an example if what you've made if you're going to talk about how awesome your stuff is.
If definitely agree for some dresses, especially sweeter dresses and (some) older school since they seem to be made with thinner and cheaper material. But from what I've seen, there's plenty of well made dresses with intricate details.

>>7455573
>5'1" and while not chubby, I do have a naturally thick build with big breasts, wide hips and round, touching thighs. I feel like even the cutest most innocent taobao stuff automatically becomes scandalous when I put it on.
Eugh, this. Short, round face, fit into small sizes, but my build just ruins it. There's no nice balance.

I love twintails, they make my thin hair look so much fuller, but I always feel like I give off an unacceptable vibe on normalfags regardless of my youngish face because my body doesn't follow suit.

>>7455564
I make enough per hour that it is cheaper for me to buy clothing than to spend time and money finding/buying fabric and notions, and then hours sewing it, plus most seamstresses have no fucking clue about what looks lolita or they can't construct a garment worth shit, so getting something made becomes a chore. Regarding prints, yes, some custom fabric online is cheap and wonderful, but why would I want to trawl hoping something I love appears? Essentially, buying ready made is the easier option. I fit most sizing, I have brands whose aesthetic I like that regularly release dresses in a print and/or design I want for a price I'm willing to pay. As for quality, if they stand up to the wear I put them through then I don't give a flying fuck, I've got what I want.

>>7456034
Nah. The mindset is 'If everyone one is wearing the same thing as me, it must be good!' Heaven forbid anyone try to put on some real pants though.
Freaking hivemind...

>wear pic related all the time to class/running errands
>nothing but compliments

I've bought a lot of cutesy stuff off of Taobao, but if I'm at work(office environment), I just mix one piece in with other simpler items. I hardly ever wear entire outfits with all J-fashion.

>>7456537
I can't believe you can't see that you're doublethinking.

>tfw when you feel your thighs are too chubby to wear thigh highs/OTKs
>wat do ;_;

>>7456634
No, I can see the hypocritical take on it, [especially when talking about some Jfash] but still, why look like the dregs of society/like you just rolled out of bed when trying to complain about someone else's wardrobe. Understand what I'm getting at here?

>>7456802
fake thigh highs

>>7456802
Noo, thick thighs on skinny girls are cute. Tiny muffin tops/thigh bulge is cute. Wear them please.

>>7444701
Iggy's so cute. She has my dream body

>>7457009
Y-you too.
(but really ok, thanks anon ;_;)

>>7456973
You're -still- a hypocritical shit saying it. And you're -still- using that doublethink logic. You don't see it at all.

>>7457115
Same here. Just need to figure out a way to get like 2-3 inches of fat on my waistline to migrate to my hips/butt.

>>7441368
fucking amazing.

>>7457192
Mkay anon, whatever you say. You're awfully whiny over someone's opinion, someone piss in your uggs?