/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I get so turned on at meetups.
I love the petticoats and bloomers between my legs, and the sight of all the other girls.
Sometimes a wear vibrating panties, and nobody notices.

>>7407023
kill yourself creep

I showered less than once a month when I was a middle school weeb.
I also didn't do any work in my english class because it wasn't japanese.

I just spent about $1,000 ordering from Angelic Pretty and I can't help but laugh because on BtB I was accused of not being able to save money when the fact of the matter is I probably have more money to waste than the girls saying that.

inb4 autism bucks, I have a legitimate job which I work hard at. I'm thinking of selling plasma so I can afford even more brand though.

>>7407036

*Of not being able to save money to buy lolita items

I should have worded that more clearly. It made sense in my mind but after re-reading my post, it became clear that it sounded like I was doing the exact opposite of saving money, hahaha.

>>7407036
I don't get this shit, like why are you selling plasma to buy lolita thats the dumbest thing ever.
I thought lolita was all about being innocent and elegant, and selling blood plasma to buy lolita is ironic to say the least.
The same goes for girls who have sugar daddies/ whore themselves out/sell their panties just to afford this shit.
Lolitas say that buying replicas is immoral but what you people are doing is worse.

>>7407043
>Selling plasma
>immoral
I call troll

>>7407043
Oh, it's you again

I sold a dress on the comm sales a while back.
Right after I shipped it out, I remembered that I had had sex in it and hadn't washed it.
Some girl got a dress with my boyfriends jizz all over it.

>>7407047
you are literally selling a part of you for lolita
If you can't afford it without selling your body then why the hell don't you just settle for bodyline or some shit?

>>7407043

Alrighty then.

>>7407053

I think if that anon just spent $1000 on AP, she can afford it without the plasma. She just wants a little more.

>>7407043
Art theft is harmful. Sugar daddies and selling plasma hurt no one and selling plasma helps people. How are those things immoral?

8/10 because I replied

>>7407023
Wow, you're disgusting. Where the fuck are you from?

>>7407053
You do know your body continually makes plasma and if not for people selling plasma regardless of their reasons for doing so, people would be sicker?

>>7407067
Did you know you can donate your plasma instead of selling it like the greedy dirtbags you are?
Don't pull that bullshit, you don't ACTUALLY want to help anyone you just want "MUH BURANDO"

>>7407072

Why can't I do both?

If I ever saw Voldie in the flesh I'd trip her.

>>7407047
>>7407055
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>>7407067
This is a troll guys

I have a huge lolita crush on this chubby asian girl.
my mind wandered last night while I was masturbating, and when I thought of her for a couple seconds I came uncontrollably.

I feel bad for thinking of her in that sense, I'm just a hopeless pervert that wants a chubby little classic lolita so bad.

my boyfriend thinks its cute and keeps thinking "three way, I want two cute girls" but I feel really uncomfortable with that, the only thing possible I could imagine is picking up some normalfag girl and normalfags turn me off so much, make me dryer than the Sahara. I see raccoon makeup eyes and I just want to puke.

I'm going to die without touching some other girls boobs or using a strapon on them oh god

I don't like it when fat girls wear lolita.
It just makes them look even bigger and its so not cute.Then when they resell their dresses the dresses are all stretched out.

Community meets embarrass me, so I have been making excuses to be a lone lolita. This has resulted in some friends thinking I don't like spending time with them.

Inb4
>comm is ita
>comm is loud and rude
>i think i'm hot shit

They aren't, they are lovely, and I don't. I just want everyday people to get used to seeing me like this each day, doing normal things, so they just get over it already. Being in a princess parade kind of defeats that.

I don't go to comm meets because I feel like I don't have enough brand.

I feel that if I don't wear a new brand dress every time I attend a meetup, I'll be grouped in with the itas and be made fun of.

I won't be able to get a good solid job until I graduate college and then some. By the time I can afford a large amount of brand, I'll be too old to look good in it.

I want to be a famous, qt3.14 lolita model that everyone loves. That dream will never be realized.

I feel bad that I brought up the whole "plasma" thing in the thread about how you afford lolita. I keep seeing it thrown around here and wish I just kept quiet.

And as more of a lifestyle thing, I'm not happy with myself unless I'm fairly well dressed up, if not in lolita. I can barely stand jeans anymore, and my lack of nice shoes is killing me. I've never looked "nice", and now I have an almost inexhaustible desire to always look top.

>>7407123
I feel similar. It's not about brand but wardrobe pieces in general. I haven't been to a meet in months because I've been saving up for some new stuff. I don't want to be a one coord wonder and as of right now I don't have a lot to work with. I definitely don't want to be an outfit repeater, then I'll get a reputation for the girl who wears the same four things to every meet.

>>7407139

I've been intending to start selling plasma long before you posted anything about it, I just haven't gotten around to it because its been too damn cold for me to be driving clear across town to the place. I'll probably get started in spring when I wont die thanks to frostbite.

>>7407142
>>7407123
Similarly, I feel like I don't have enough legwear/accessories/blouses.
None of my coords feel complete or special, and I feel like a shitty lolita because of it. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) my comm is very small and rarely has meet ups, so deciding whether or not to go to them is not really an issue.

>>7407142
Is four bad? I've got five dresses/skirts, though I coord them with different colors and have a modest variety of blouses. I figured I was close to a fairly solid waredrobe. Am I wrong?

What's considered a good amount?

>>7407184
If you can make multiple coords out of them, that's not a bad amount for a beginner, in my opinion.
To me, a "solid" wardrobe for an established lolita is more like 15 pieces with all the trappings.

>>7407193
Fifteen? Dang. I'd like to see how they store that.
How many blouses, would you say?

I hate 'plus size' lolitas.
Also, I hate the term 'plus size' just say fat fgs.

>>7407205

>impressed by 15

I own close to 40 brand dresses. It was super easy to store them in my old big closet but now I have half of the collection in a small closet and the other half is on stand alone rack.

>>7407205
Not the anon you were asking (I'm >>7407178 ), but I'll give you my opinion.

I have 16 main pieces (3 skirts, 1 OP), and I have 10 (well, 8 on hand, two in the mail) blouses, 4 pairs of lolita specific shoes and another 3 pairs that are "loliable." I own 5 bags that I use with lolita.
While my wardrobe sounds pretty big (at least to a beginner like me), it's really far from "solid." Lolita outfits aren't just blouses and dresses and shoes.
My wardrobe sucks because it's not super cohesive and lacks accessories/fancy legwear.
I think you could easily have a very solid wardrobe with 10-15 pieces, 5 blouses (maybe in one or two colours with different materials/sleeves/etc.), and only a few pairs of shoes so long as you had a cohesive colour scheme or theme and the accessories to deck out each outfit.

>>7407023
>vibrating panties
what the everloving fuck

>>7407220
I'm definitely not impressed by fifteen. I was surprised because I figured 15 to be fairly seasoned and ranking 40 more in collector tier.
I didn't expect 15 to be the expected standard.
I'm pretty minimalist with my possessions. I don't like having too many or take up too much space.

>>7407184
A new brand dress every week.

I'm sorry for making you feel like your wardrobe is inadequate, anon. It probably isn't.

I look at the wardrobes of people Misako Aoki and what not, so my ideas of a good wardrobe are off.

>>7407255
They're a thing, google it. I'm disturbed that she would wear them to a meetup, ugh.

>>7407076
If I saw voldie in the flesh, I wouldn't recognize her, she has such a generic face that no matter how many times I see her pics, I only it's her because someone else mentioned it. No wonder she's such a great Mako.

>>7407269
It's alright! I don't feel inadequate. I don't really want more main pieces.
I'm expanding my wardrobe with more accessories, sweaters, blouses, legwear, headpieces, shoes, that sort of thing. I like seeing all the different kinds of looks you can get with just one dress. Coord threads here are my favorites.
I might get more big pieces if I see something I love or something versatile and cheap, but I'll probably cap around 8-10. I'm satisfied and pleased with that.

I actually did see voldie in the flesh, said hi, realised my cosplay was beyond supbar that day, promptly turned into a stammering mess and ran away. The shame.

>>7407384
what con was this? i'm sure your costume was better than mine

>>7407384
oh were you the Saria at AN? Or was this recently?

>>7407269
> I look at the wardrobes of highly influential fashion people
>my ideas of a good wardrobe are off.
you're right there

>>7407020
I always have the urge to ask any miku if their faithful to the Cosplay below the skirt, because I have an up skirt fetish.

>>7407396
Oh goodness I didn't think you'd remember, yes that was me; by that point in the day I was so exhausted and everything that could go wrong with that cosplay had managed to...wasn't the best of days >_<

>>7407415
haha I thought you were super cute and I was really excited that someone actually recognized me

>>7407028
>>7407064
>>7407255

Aint nothing wrong with it, unless she is telling everyone and visibly getting aroused to the point where its extremely awkward.

>>7407096
>>7407219
I'm glad I'm not alone.
Ever since tumblr invaded /cgl/ fat acceptance is on the rise.

If you are fat. Don't wear lolita. Stop stretching the poor dresses.

If you have a muffin top, don't wear a costume that exposes your midriff for gods sake.
You'll just look embarrassing.

>>7407444
Sounds like she's going to meetups just to get off on it. Thats creepy as fuck.

>>7407491
>If you are fat. Don't wear lolita. Stop stretching the poor dresses.
Now, now. Some chubby chans look cute. I don't understand why more don't wear tailor-made items and shapewear, though.

I think all people should be try their best to be really thin, this goes for cosplay and lolita and real life. I don't even like it when people are the American "healthy weight", at those weights people still have fat pouches and still look like they could be improved by being slimmer or at least more toned.
People I know considered me really thin at 5'2" and 102 pounds but I knew it wasn't good enough, now I'm 5'3" and 95 pounds and I think this is a good weight because I'm really thin but not to the point of seeing ribs and I'm buying a little bit of exercising equipment to exercise any last bits of fat off and to get toned.
Even my boyfriend is 5'10" and 140 pounds but I can't tell him that I think he'd look better if he lost weight and exercised, and when people around here compliment other people's figures I'm usually thinking that that person could actually stand to improve their body more.
It's horrible, but I think everyone should be under the average/healthy weight and then exercise to get toned in their remaining flabby areas, no exceptions unless you are already toned or muscular.
I don't talk about this with anyone and it makes me feel really superficial but I just know people could look so much better if they lost weight and exercised.

>>7407023
There isn't anything wrong with getting off on looking and feeling pretty, attractive and feminine. As long as you're not rubbing your arousal into everyone's face I think it's appropriate.

My comm has some of the nastiest bitches alive.

They're all a bunch of psychotic "feminists" that believe in castrating all men whilst walking around with gorilla legs and nigger pube armpits.

One was kicked out of our uni for having threesomes with other students, and harassing the students who declined her requests.

I'm so close to becoming a lone lolita. Fuck this shit.

I hate amerifat cosplayers. Seriously, their style is so different that I don't even know what I"m looking at anymore. This is coming from someone who grew up in Hong Kong and Tokyo.

Also, I have a really harsh standard on what is fat and what is skinny. I am 5' 4" and 109 lbs. I feel like until I am under 100 lbs, I will always be a chubby Amerifat.

>>7407534
I feel you. I'm 5'4" and I used to be 120lbs. From what I read, basically average height and average weight.
Over the last year or two I've lost twenty pounds. I brushed double digits last week, felt good. I think I look tons better now. I don't really look like someone who is 100lbs though. I used to hear 100 as the scare number, the wow-really-that-thin number.
I guess it's because I have zero muscles. This 100lbs is all skinnyfat. If I was 100 and pure muscle I bet I'd be super stringy and lean.

>>7407534
This mindset is hella dumb. There is no such thing as 'toning' or spot reducing.

Also you should probably seek help before this spirals into a major issue. It did with a girl I knew.

>>7407160
I donate blood anyway, but in California they aren't legally allowed to give you cash/checks for it. They can give you vouchers for things though, I usually go for movie tickets.

>>7407992
It doesn't sound like she's talking about toning in the sense of spot reducing. Sounds like she's just talking about gaining overall muscle and reducing overall fat.
But maybe I am giving her too much credit, she did say
>then exercise to get toned in their remaining flabby areas
But maybe she meant "exercise to get toned since they still have flabby areas, ie not properly firmed out by muscle"

'Toned' as a descriptor is usually used to describe a woman with medium muscle and fairly low bodyfat. 'Toning', when used correctly, is about the process to get there. Which is to gain muscle and lose fat. Unfortunately, since the culture of women associates muscles with testosterone pumped women body builders, it's kind of a pick and choose between what words are 'icky' and which are 'sexy'. Freeweights=icky. Lifting=icky. Muscle building=icky. Bulking=icky. Toning? Sexxxy
For some reason.

And since what's available media-wise for women is so freaky about this icky vs sexy thing, there is terrible terrible sis-science. Much more so than with guys, which already have terrible broscience. So since 'toning' is a word that women deem sexy, they use it the most, and they put their sis-science on what exactly the 'process to get there' is.

I guess what I'm getting at, is there needs to be a better word for the whole ottermode-for-ladies deal since 'toning' has gotten fucked up. They're not bulking, and it's more than just a cut. What do you call it?

>>7408136
Fit? I dunno. I'm sick of people looking at me like I'm insane when I say I lift weights (and enjoy it).

>>7408136
>I guess what I'm getting at, is there needs to be a better word for the whole ottermode-for-ladies deal since 'toning' has gotten fucked up. They're not bulking, and it's more than just a cut. What do you call it?

Someone should ask the /fit/bros what is the proper thing to call this. I know they hate the term toning...
I'd think that to 'lean out' or 'tighten everything up without bulking' should have a name because though the diet is technically a cut (calorie deficit if carrying ANY extra weight), but working out to get bigger or bulk up dieting for mass gains isn't appropriate either.
<snowflake> I want a term, dammit. </snowflake>

>>7408150
Ignore haters, acquire booty
They'll look at you funny, then come back later and say "Anon Anon you have to tell me how you did this". You say weights. They give you another funny look but are kind of frustrated too.
Because you're hot and they want that but don't want to go through the effort. Plebs.

>>7408154
What about lean out?
What do they call it when the guys are heading towards ottermode? Since that's pretty much the male equivalent.

>>7408159
Close. A lean bulk is where you gain muscle/weight while not gaining the normal proportional fat.

>>7408159
See, I never got why people thought lifting weights was so bad compared to cardio. I'll spend all day in the weight room, but it'll take World War 3 for me to willingly go running.

>>7408163
What if you dropped the 'bulk' part from the term? Since that sounds like it's a descriptor of a kind of bulk. But if it's just 'lean out', that wouldn't be associated with bulks, right?

Also my captcha said 'drink everybody'. I was just deciding whether or not I was going to drink tonight.

>>7408177
Usually the types who pester you about your routine and then shoot down your suggestions are people who don't want to put the effort into weights nor cardio.
It's also the social effort. Since running for girls is 'sexy' (which I get, bouncing boobs and whatnot), but weights are too masculine. I guess it's the ideal that women are petite and weak and need help. So spending your time doing something that ups your muscle, makes you stronger, and shows how capable you are, that's all very 'unladylike'

>>7408187
>What if you dropped the 'bulk' part from the term?
I dont think only autistic /fit/izens would call anyone out using the phrase 'lean out'. Seems acceptable to me.

>>7408191
>I dont think
>dont

how did this get in there I dont even... I didnt mean to do that

>>7408191
>>7408192
It's good, I understand you. Alright, I'll use that term. Sounds solid enough.

I have a mean girl personality that I suppress in my day-to-day life. But I'm thinking of going to this big meet that my comm (which I barely participate in) is doing at the sakura festival so I can be a total bitch to this weeb girl I know who recently joined.

>she hasn't even bought any dresses yet
>she'll be coming with her anime club
>total fatty and hideous rabbit teeth

>mfw I realize I'm thinking these things

>>7408201
oh fuck goddammit resist.
do you really want her to go around for the rest of her life broadcasting her woes to anyone who will listen about THOSE LOLITA BITCHES!!!11!
just give her the cold shoulder until she gets the idea and then bring the deets to /cgl/. I want a play-by-play narrative as events warrant.

I like lolita pieces, but not lolita fashion as a whole. I wear my brand in a twee, semi otome kei way. I feel like a real outsider and so I would never go to meet ups or anything because I don't wear actual lolita fashion. It's kind of saddening for me since I don't have anyone to enjoy the brands, designs, etc with. I'd like to meet someone in person with interests in lolita, but it would be pretty much impossible.

Luckily my SO likes the way I dress and will give me opinions on pieces I want to purchase.

>>7408213
Oh I'll report back. I'll just stop by whenever I see her since the meet's at the middle of the entire area.

>>7407051
This is why I don't buy secondhand

>>7407139
I wonder how many lolita totally gived up on jeans. I'm short and pear-shaped, so I look awfully fat in them. Since I've been into lolita (7 years), I've only wear pants and jeans a handfull of time, since four years I don't have any trousers in my wardrobe anymore, just an old jean when I feel like painting or doing larp latex weapons.

>>7408270
I gave up jeans sometime after I declared myself a lolita. I was also pear shaped. Trying to get back into them, but that restricting feel.

>>7407262
Don't worry anon, I was undergade when I started lolita and it took me a few years to reach the 10 main pieces (JSKs and OPs) point, and I'm still at 10 right now.. As long as your dresses are versatile, you don't need to much of them. Focus on your general wardrobe theme (ponys, flowers, gold, black etc) and buy accessories and legwears to match with it.

>>7408284
>I only have 10 pieces so it's fine to have just 10 pieces

Did you ever consider the fact that everyone is laughing at you behind your back?

>>7408287
In lolita, creativity is way more important than owning so much brand. Being stylish is not bound to the number of main pieces you have, and anyone laughting at my small closet should rethink their values.
Plus I know an handfull of pretty popular lolitas who doesn't have extensive wardrobes.

>>7408136
>ottermode-for-ladies

Ok
Look up word for female otters
Female otters are called bitches like canines.
Otter...bitch.
OTTERBITCH MODE
Yes. I can deal with this.

>>7408287
Its okay to have a dress. Any amount more than 1 is fine, too. Stop being a bitch.

>>7408291
That's the argument poor people give out everytime.

You might think that is true, but the rest of the world sees it differently.
If you're starting out, having a handful of main pieces might be fine understandable.
If you have 10 after years of being into lolita fashion, everyone in your comm is going to laugh at you.

>>7407991
Oh wow nice job losing that weight! It gets harder to lose weight when you're already at a low weight. If you exercise too and get your body more toned I'm sure you'll start to look really good and lose the skinnyfat. Good luck anon!
>>7407992
I meant it more like >>7408136 because it's almost impossible to spot reduce and toning your body will generally make you look better.
If you exercise overall, your flabbier areas will start to disappear and you'll start to look better and more firm.
I just wasn't sure what term would be better than "toning", "bulking" sounded a bit too extreme.

>>7407205
My main pieces are under 20 still but I'm going to count full coordinates as I make them so while storage of my main pieces isn't an issue, everything to go with them is another story.
This spring, I'm actually taking over a small spare bedroom with a double closet for my Lolita, hair and makeup room.

>>7408298
Your argument is the one uncreative people give out everytime. If you are in this fashion just to show up how many pieces you can have, well good for you. I'm not here for that, and if my comm laught at me (which is not the case actually), good for them too. I don't feel the need to compet for my closet size. If you have a thousand dress but can't make a decent outfit, it's worthless. If you have two dresses but are creative enought to come with five outfits for each, it's interesting.

Some people also stay with small closets because it's how they manage their lolita clothing. I don't feel bad about my collection, they all are pieces I love, with special meanings to me, I have four of my top whishlist elements, it's good enought. I pan on expanding it, sure but, more accessorie wise.

>>7408298
I think it depends how active a person is. I have quite a few more cocktail dresses and formals than most of my friends because I dress up to attend galas and events and they don't.
I'm fine so far with under 20 pieces of Lolita so far because local meets are maybe 3-4x/year so far so I don't repeat very much ever. I'm wearing it more for no occasion and traveling a bit to other meets this year so I'm buying more. I buy to suit my wearing needs. I can afford what brand I want too and yes, I have Bodyline still so I can easily wear wash-and-wear pieces as often as I like and on a whim without worry. It's not always about the $$$ or the biggest wardrobe being the best.
I'd rather see a beautifully coordinated small wardrobe than a haphazard larger one.
I'm on a no-buy until I take inventory and make a wishlist so mine doesn't end up disorganized or mismatched.

>>7408302
Thank you!
With the weather warming up, I've been taking more walks around. I think I'll add jogging on top of that! Maybe I'll pick up strength yoga again too.
I'll focus on my arms and legs, since in lolita they're pretty much the only parts of my body visible. I'm getting inspired!

>>7407534
what? man, can you eating disorder any harder? "healthy weight" is "healthy" for a reason - everyone has a weight at which their body functions at its peak. Why are aesthetics more important? They are only one part of life, but a well functioning body benefits your whole life.

>>7408360
Yeah this sounds like grade-A eating disorder

>>7407534
It's good you don't talk about it with anyone, I would not want to be your friend and know you're constantly judging my body jfc. Or are you one of those people who can only be friends with good-looking people?

>>7407534
id be saggy as fuck if i went "below healthy weight", and im 130 at 5'4. no "toning" could fix it.

I think all people should be try their best to be really chunky, this goes for cosplay and lolita and real life. I don't even like it when people are the American "healthy weight", at those weights people still have ankles and still look like they could be improved by being fatter or at least more chubbier.
People I know considered me really fat at 4'8" and 205 pounds but I knew it wasn't good enough, now I'm 4'9" and 255 pounds and I think this is a good weight because I'm really thick but not to the point of seeing gangrene and I'm buying a little bit of McDonalds back area equipment to hide away any last bits of human definition off and to get massive.
Even my boyfriend is 5'10" and 290 pounds but I can't tell him that I think he'd look better if he gained weight and watched TLC with me, and when people around here compliment other people's figures I'm usually thinking that that person could actually stand to improve their body more.
It's horrible, but I think everyone should be over the average/healthy weight and then buy a scooter to get to the supermarket spare their remaining flabby areas, no exceptions unless you are already on life machines or are housebound.
I don't talk about this with anyone and it makes me feel really superficial but I just know people could look so much better if they gained weight and exercised.

I think all people should be try their best to be really chunky, this goes for cosplay and lolita and real life. I don't even like it when people are the American "healthy weight", at those weights people still have ankles and still look like they could be improved by being fatter or at least more chubbier.
People I know considered me really fat at 4'8" and 205 pounds but I knew it wasn't good enough, now I'm 4'9" and 255 pounds and I think this is a good weight because I'm really thick but not to the point of seeing gangrene and I'm buying a little bit of McDonalds back area equipment to hide away any last bits of human definition off and to get massive.
Even my boyfriend is 5'10" and 290 pounds but I can't tell him that I think he'd look better if he gained weight and watched TLC with me, and when people around here compliment other people's figures I'm usually thinking that that person could actually stand to improve their body more.
It's horrible, but I think everyone should be over the average/healthy weight and then buy a scooter to get to the supermarket spare their remaining flabby areas, no exceptions unless you are already on life machines or are housebound.
I don't talk about this with anyone and it makes me feel really superficial but I just know people could look so much better if they gained weight and fight against lack of clothing options.

I think all people should be try their best to be really chunky, this goes for cosplay and lolita and real life. I don't even like it when people are the American "healthy weight", at those weights people still have ankles and still look like they could be improved by being fatter or at least more chubbier.
People I know considered me really fat at 4'8" and 205 pounds but I knew it wasn't good enough, now I'm 4'9" and 255 pounds and I think this is a good weight because I'm really thick but not to the point of seeing gangrene and I'm buying a little bit of McDonalds back area equipment to hide away any last bits of human definition off and to get massive.
Even my boyfriend is 5'10" and 290 pounds but I can't tell him that I think he'd look better if he gained weight and watched TLC with me, and when people around here compliment other people's figures I'm usually thinking that that person could actually stand to improve their body more.
It's horrible, but I think everyone should be over the average/healthy weight and then buy a scooter to get to the supermarket to spare their remaining flabby areas, no exceptions unless you are already on life machines or are housebound.
I don't talk about this with anyone and it makes me feel really superficial but I just know people could look so much better if they gained weight and fight against lack of clothing options.

I used to care about how I looked, I loved playing dress-up in Lolita and putting a lot of thought in my coords and how I did my hair, and my make-up. Now I've gotten so fat that I ashamed to try and put some effort in my own looks. So I look like a slouch with jeans and a sweater. I barely wear make-up anymore nor do I put a lot of time and effort in my hair. I miss those days were I would feel pretty, and now even if I do make an effort I just feel fat and ugly. As if I am not worth it to turn myself into a pretty princess until I lose some weight.

>>7408427
I forgot to add, that this self loath also doesn't help with me trying to lose weight, because when I am really upset I start eating everything I can get my hands on. I also don't feel like dieting anymore, because I've tried multiple ones and they always made me lose a lot of weight the first two months, only to gain it again while still following the diet in the third/fourth month in.

I followed a female cosplayer (found via PT, who blocked me for some reason) from my area on Twitter just because I thought she was really cute & other stuff. And yeah, I got it in my head that maybe I could ask her out, too.

Though, the more I read her tweets, the less interested I became in her & the more vapid I found her (and she's a STEM major at that). I think what made me unfollow her was her going on about this weird crush/dating thing she was in the middle of where she likes someone but he only likes her as a back-up & she was his 3rd choice for a girlfriend or something? My thinking of this is who would willingly put themselves in such a situation, go alone with it, & still want that person?

Though, she replied to me semi-often & we had some nice back/forths, which was cool. Her cosplays were...eh, nothing that caught the eye immediately. Pretty regular fare, really.

Think she deleted her Twitter account.

>>7408429
its not just the diet, its in the exercise

wake yourself up with a morning jog.

you may find that warm glow like a hard rest.

I went on /cgl/ for about 2 years now and it made me into a giant bitch. I used to be nicer, now my fuse is so incredibly short with other women that I start arguing within one minute of their opening their mouth.
I didn't even realize it before but some days ago I tried to dox a women just because I disagreed with her tone and thought she was "full of herself". Later I started feeling guilty and defending her in the thread and ultimately realized what shit I could have caused if I actually succeeded. To make matters worse, it was just a huge misunderstanding and I got so mad over it. She was even kinda nice about it which makes me feel twice as bad.
I don't know why I have such a short fuse nowadays, but I'm quitting /cgl/ for a while.

>>7408444
*reset

>>7408473
You'll be back.

>>7408360
>>7408379
I don't have an eating disorder, don't pull things out of your ass. I lowered my calories by 200 a day and ate better food so I gradually lost weight and now I eat normal food and a normal amount of calories a day.
Wow, I have such an eating disorder for wanting to get at my goal weight. People tell me my body looks really good now anyways so I don't see anything wrong. I just need to exercise more now.
>>7408382
Actually my two best friends are 40 and 60 pounds overweight and are really nice people and basically everyone I know is average weight or higher.

>>7408473
ive visited here for exactly 1 year and 4 months now, not a bitch by any way but drama threads jsut dont interest me

skip over them? you dont need them. CGL is full of fantastic information otherwise. thats how you should be 4channing effectively - to learn in an more honest environment (due to anonymity)

>>7408473
I've been here for about 2 years and I'm sensitive so I get really sad when people say mean stuff to me here but I know it's to be expected, and for a while /r9k/ and /adv/ made me really weary of guys I met because I thought they were going to be sad and wallowing in hate and thought that guys everywhere secretly thought women were trash and sluts but I realized that almost noone I meet is like that outside of 4chan.
I've become slightly less soft since coming here too but am generally the same and everyone still says I'm really polite and nice so I think that I've done a good job at not letting the people here change me too much, I am a lot more critical of cosplay and lolita than I used to be though.
In general this is the site I go to the most and I'm glad it hasn't made me catty or anything, but it has changed me a bit.

>>7408201
Unless she's done something heinous to you, I don't see how you can justify this.

I'm trying REALLY hard to dissuade myself from buying Oo Jia's Chess Chocolate replica.

It's in my favorite colorwa, in my favorite cut, and I'm a lone lolita so it's not like anyone will be able to tell it's a replica.

But I'll know. And I'll hate myself a little for it every day.

But at the same time, I don't even know if the dress will look good on me, you know? And to drop $600 on a dress I might end up hating would be soul crushing.

Lord, I just don't know what to do anymore.

>>7408616
It wasn't a drama thread, it was a skincare thread that turned to a drama thread. I feel like shit now.

I know I'm fairly attractive and I try to be friendly to everyone and my cosplays are average to good. But I am extremely discouraged at cons because nobody hits on me at cons. I'm not looking for a relationship or anything, but apparently that is a norm for even the poor cosplayers and the entire group of friends I'm always with but it's like people avoid me completely and hit on everyone else with me. It hurts.

>>7408739
just get it
wear it round town and feel pretty

>>7408742
yeah I know exactly the chick youre talking about. I saw and read a bit about it skimmed the rest coz why? we don't need to fuss. on cgl people get mad so easily. they gotta reply to anything even if they know its bait. I guess its just our nature to always have something to say but on other boards if theres inflammatory or bait or any shit posting in general, it just gets ignored most the time.

just keep skipping past, skip past and carry on

My confession is one a lot of people here probably share.

I'm what people consider a very nice person, AKA a doormat. I am helpful, almost never angry, and modest - all according to other people.

This is all a farce, though. Only my closest of close friends know that my one true love is drama and gossip. I LOVE it. Because of my (outward) personality, I'm almost never at the center of any local drama, but I love being on the outside looking in. Even if it's NOT local, I love getting the full scoop on what bitch did what, whoa what did she say, etc. etc. I love lolita fashion for the aesthetics, but I think what really sold me to the community was how much drama just follows it. It's like a drug.

>>7408779
I'm mad that I didn't skip past it. That's the thing. I know I should have, but hearing another woman feel good about the way she looks just sends me into a mad rage now. I literally get mad because people praise her and then I find flaws to make them stop. I didn't used to do that, I'm terrified that I'll turn into a giant bitch monster. I don't want to think like that because I'm insecure about my own skin and then it'll look like I'm jealous. I wanna be happy for other girls like I used to, but they just make me angry now.

>>7408225
I'm kind of like this. I'm not into lolita, think it's cute but wouldn't wear entire co-ords, but I'd love to have some small pieces like skirts or accessories just to wear around without getting sucked into the whole fashion.

>>7408298
I'd rather own fewer pieces that I can co-ord extensively and that I absolutely adore than have many, many dresses just for the sake of having them. Just saying.

>>7408429
When you get upset, go for a walk/run. I'm serious. If some negativity starts to creep up on you, walk away from food, force yourself into some running shoes, and stay outside and moving for thirty minutes, minimum. Even if you hate it. Even if at the beginning it just serves to piss you off more or make you feel worse, keep going. By the end of it, even if you've just walked for half an hour, you should feel better from exercising a little. You'll learn to love getting up and moving in no time. It can be hard, but no one with an able body just "can't" exercise. I'm saying this as somebody who struggles to stay motivated and who absolutely loathes running, this has been the best thing I've ever done. Even if I don't come back happier, I'm no longer hungry and have an energy boost to go do something else.

>>7408767
Not to make assumptions or anything, but maybe you're intimidating? I'm a friendly person and try to be very welcoming to anyone, but I'm shy and I'm not good at starting conversations, so I usually leave it to others to approach me, but I've been told that I'm intimidating because I'm an attractive girl with decent costumes. This sounds conceited, sorry, I don't think I'm anything special, but that's what I've been told by several people now, unprompted, that they were a little nervous about approaching me at first, so maybe that's your problem.

>>7408814
Oh my god, how pathetic. People who are made to feel that insecure or enraged when someone else dares to be happy with themselves make me sick. Please do leave this site for a while if you're that easily influenced to become some seething hate-monger.

>>7408627
Well the thing about the guys having a secret voice in the back in their mind is true. For me it's more like rage and I want to destroy her. I've talked about it with many co worker and they said that it's the same with them. You just don't let it take over your action or you'll end up in jail.

>>7408814
You need to go find some perspective on things, else become this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E62iA6KCIQ

>>7408427
Do you still fit into your Lolita?
If so, make yourself wear it.
It might snap you back into caring as well as inspire you.

>>7408616
I feel this as well.
>>7408473
I usually just hide the drama threads so I'm not tempted to get sucked in. Occasionally I read them though as a sort of schadenfreude.
If something really pisses me off, I go shopping rather than reply. My wardrobe benefits, haha.
Seriously though, the info threads are really helpful despite the general environment.

>>7408841
I think she means less about the knee-jerk hormone fueled rage thoughts, and more about the /r9k/ mindset of very lucidly holding opinions that women are worth nothing. That every single woman is out to get you, that women who don't sleep with you are frigid bitches who are so so cruel for putting you in the "friendzone". They don't counteract these thoughts with, "Oh but I know this one girl and she's nice" and "Wow, I shouldn't be so sexist, there are good and bad apples in either gender". They 100% believe these things.
Unless that's exactly what you're saying, in which case your workplace makes me sad.

>>7408831
At the risk of sounding conceited myself, I'm the same way (different anon). I'm told I'm fairly attractive, and 'cutesy,' but irl, people seem to be intimidated, and only really start conversations if they're obviously drunk.
I'll even catch people frequently glancing over at me at times if I'm sitting, just chatting with a friend, or playing on my DS. I'm too shy to smile over at them, so if I accidentally make eye contact, I just look away really quickly, and that is so not helping me not come off as a super bitch.

I promise I'm not some ice queen; I love making new friends! I'm just really fucking shy.
>QQ

>>7408739
Get the real deal and resell it if it doesn't suit you, it won't lose value.
Replicas are shit. If you have a Lolita wardrobe and start adding in replicas, it drags down your whole wardrobe. You'll always know it's a sub-par item even if you coordinate it to the max.

I want CC too. The princess cut is my favorite. It won't fit me ever b/c I'm tall and long waisted. I'm going to try for the bustier JSK. Sucks to pay $$$ for not even my favorite cut but I love that print. I missed the release so it's just the way it goes.
I'd never add a replica into my mix, I'd do without first even if I never get CC.

>>7408911
I also want CC and I have thought of getting a replica for the same reason: I'm a lone lolita and no one but me will know that it is.
However, I can't bring myself to ad a replica to my wardrobe.

I'm kinda thinking of holding out/hoping for a release. The print is popular enough, right?

>>7407023
that's actually a fetish for some guys

>>7407028
>>7407064
>>7407255
>>7407543
women

>>7407444
I think it's disgusting, I'd hate to be talking to a fellow lolita without knowing she's actually getting off on it or fucking wearig vibrating panties. So much for lolitas being classy.

>>7408298
You sound like someone who is too fucking stupid to know how to coordinate a dress in more than one way so you just keep buying more to compensate for your lack of creativity.

>>7408928
I hold that hope in the back of my mind too, haha!
But yes, no replica will ever be in my wardrobe, it would totally kill my pride in my Lolita Closet and the decadent luxury I feel regarding my growing collection of nicer dresses.

>>7407023
Obvious troll is obvious. Idiots taking the bait.

>>7407051
Again another troll.

Come on trollies, at least be original. I heard this and >>7407023 before.

0/10 lack of creativity

>>7407096
I don't like how fat lolitas are the majority of western documented events. I don't mind them wearing lolita, but it really seems like the majority of lolitas who show up in photos from events are huge. Like the misako thing, it was MC'd by a fat ita who didn't even know about lolita fashion (and called it a costume at one point), and two bloggers who were huge.

>>7408951
I understand how people who buy mostly distinctive prints would want a bigger wardrobe. Otherwise it would feel like they were wearing the same recognizable things too often. My wardrobe is mostly solids so far and people think it is much bigger than it actually is since I detach sleeves, wear bustled skirts differently, use boleros and collars, etc.

But if sweet prints orJetJ prints were my big thing and I had local meets fairly often, you bet I'd want lots more dresses.

No need to have a gauche attitude about it either way though. In the end people should please themselves with their wardrobes.

I like seeing large lovely wardrobes but I'm not jelly because I buy what I like and have a pretty generous budget.

>>7408413
I used to weigh that and was a size 6. I was fat. I am your height. I am now a glorious and slim, healthy 110. Look so much better.

>>7409025
>size 6
>fat
anorexic alert

>>7409032
Different anon but 6 is a wee bit chunky at 5'4".

>>7409052
No it isn't. It says that US size 6 is EU size 36. I can't even find that size in stores, lowest they usually have is 38.

>>7409061
Women's not juniors.

If you mean women's than jesus, are you from a fat country?

>>7409061
Here's the chart. It's even a size small and I fit into a Japanese small (DreamV) perfectly as well. It's most definitely not chunky.

>>7409061
I'm not sure what you're looking at, but I know you're wrong. I wear a six at 5'7" and could stand to lose a little fat but I'm not chunky, thighs barely touch, etc. My best friend wears a six at 5'3" and is significantly thicker.

>>7409064
I'm not American, so no.

>>7409074
What are your measurements/weight then? When I was 130 at 5'4" and a size 6 I was definitely on the chunky side. Not fat, but not skinny. Some squishiness around the stomach, face, and thighs.

>>7409080
weight 50kg
Bust 83cm
waist 60cm
Hips 80cm
I do have a big ass though.

>>7409088
Oh wait I'm 163cm tall so that's 5'5'' not 5'4''?

>>7409091
Sorry, no it isn't. 5'4''.

>>7409088
That translates to roughly:
110lbs
Bust 32in
Waist 23
Hips 31

You sound super tiny, like a US size 3. I am 1 inch bigger in the bootay than you and the same measurements, but 5'4". I wear in-between a 3-5, but 5 is usually too big on me. Did you get measured at a US 6? That does not sound right.

Love weebs. They're the best. I've made so many con friends thatre weebs. My friends cringe and hate it when I hang out with them.
Ill never stop. Secretly I also hope my fiance runs into a walking horror story weeb for shits and giggles.

>>7409104
I never got measured, I just tried on different sizes at shops like H&M or Mango. EU38 is the size that usually fit me best, and I thought that was a size 6 from charts on the internet. I ordered shoes based on the same charts and they fit cozily so I thought it was okay.

>>7409120
Wait, I just went to look at the label on a pair of pants I have. It says US4! So yeah, my bad. Guess those charts were off after all, sorry

>>7409120
The US has tons vanity sizing, no two charts are the same when it comes to these kinds of things. I wear S at some shops XS and others and some places don't even have a small enough size for me.

I've turned into kind of a judgmental cosplayer, the kind that I used to disagree with. Now when I see bad cosplay I cringe and sometimes laugh, when before I just would have thought "so what" or "at least they look like they're having fun."

>>7409128
>>7409120
Confirming vanity sizes. I have several pair of jeans that are all the same size, but they're labeled a range of 0-4.
Crosscheck with literal measurements, try it on, or make sure they have a good return policy. Trust no label.

>>7408473
You're the new small-shitty-order-chan!
Please come back to update us on your progress in therapy (if you ever get that far).


I think /cgl/has made me a bit bitchier, but in really controllable ways. I get super guilty when my first thoughts are "what an awful ita coord" when newbies join my comm, even if they are very sweet people.

And I follow a group of local cosplayers to for some kind of self-hating reason. They enter all the small, local masquerades and have since become top dogs in the local scene, even though they are sub-par (objectively, not just in /cgl/ opinions). I'm so torn between wanting to join them to get more cosplay friends and wanting to see them crash and burn if they try to go to bigger conventions.

>>7408937
Guys, lolitas aren't classy. Look where you are! And the name it is LOLITA. It's sexual. You idiots are just uneducated and think you're soooo special, but your daddy issues make you think its isn't sexy, when it obviously isn't. You just don't realize you're aroused.
All you childhood bullshit made you this way. Excuse me for recognizing the reason I wear these clothes.

>>7409468
>the name is Lolita, it has to be sexual!
just like how everyone that wears cult party kei is in a cult, right?

>>7409474
CPK is inspired by cults. Lolita is inspired by little girls having sex.

>>7409481
what about fairy kei?
do they all think they are fairies?

>>7409486
Its a fairy like style. You really are retarded aren't you

>>7409468
Lolita is the nickname form of Dolores. Apparently all lolitas are secretly trying to be a Dolores.

Look, if you wanna play that Lolita is somehow actually based on the book Lolita (written in 1955, not Victorian times) then it would be the fashion of innocent but easily led girls.

Lolita wasn't some nyphett with a passion for older men. She was an innocent 12 year old and in the control of perverted men. First with the main guy (Humbert? Hughbert? I can't remember), who was supposed to be her caregiver. She sought approval from him, but did not see him sexually. He manipulated her and threatened bad things would happen if she didn't do what he said. The there was that play writer guy who basically helped her escape only to reveal he wanted to cast her in a porno (She's 13 at that point?) He throws her out. Then she lives on and gets married to a normal guy.

Seriously, the whole story is about a young girl who is manipulated. She's never the real initiator of perversion. If you want to extrapolate you could say lolita fashon is that special kind of moe where the girls are naive and sexy but are not aware of it.

Yeah, yeah, I know. Taking trolls too seriously. But really, "lolita" in the west is associated with promiscuous girls, but Lolita Aka Dolores was never perverted.

>>7409531
>associated with promiscuous girls
so yes it is sexual

>>7409542
>In the West
>Fashion made in Japan

You're not too good with reading comprehension, are you?

>>7409491
talking to you (jokingly) and watching people take what your troll posts say seriously, yes, I feel like my IQ has been lowered, yes.

>>7409531
>I didn't read the book.

>>7409545
They got the word from the west. And even if they didn't it wouldn't change the fact that it's obviously is childish fetish costume.

>>7409563
fuckin kill yourself

>>7409563
>TROLOLOLOLO
http://youtu.be/2Z4m4lnjxkY

>>7409558
What about that was incorrect?

>>7409641
Nothing. Some bored anon is trolling the thread. Here, have more nerd music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ5LpwO-An4&list=RD2Z4m4lnjxkY&feature=share&index=1

>>7407534
>American "healthy weight"
You do know that the WHO, as in WORLD Health Organization, defines overweightness and obesity by almost the same parameters as the CDC?
"Healthy weight" is called just that for a reason. There's a lot of leeway in what is healthy for one person and not for another, for example I'm 5'4" and maybe 105 lbs, but I eat healthily and actually partake in some sports, so it's not like I'm about to blow over at a stiff breeze.
Honestly, your obsession with appearance and "bits of fat" just screams eating disorder to me.

>>7409728
What the other anon and yourself don't seem to be actively aware of is that the weight guidelines use a certain assumption about muscle-fat-bone ratio. Recently more places around the world have begun taking into account general build and muscle mass, but the arbitrary height-weight scale isn't really accurate. As we all know, 120 at 5'6" could look like a muscle bunny or a skinnyfat mush.

People overall should move on to a body fat % scaling, because healthy is more easily predicted by that than an arbitrary weight. The same body fat percentages are healthy no matter the build.

>>7409728
Yeah, pretty much anyone with a background in medicine is going to explain that muscle bone-fat-ratio is also heavily influenced by race or ethnicity. People from different areas of the world are meant to be different sizes (ie. asian women are generally rail thin with no tits). Pretty much everyone who isn't a BMI chasing bulemic knows that the old charts are full of shit.

I'm a fatty stretching out my burando.

>>7409738
>>7409742
Yeah, I know, that's why I mentioned my own height and weight. By BMI standards, I'd be underweight, but I am actually healthy. I mentioned the WHO and their parameters because that anon specifically said "American healthy weight".
I even said that that anon's obsession with weight in general screams eating disorder to me, not their weight.

>>7409563

>>7409773
Poster of >>7407534 here, I already said in >>7408609 how I got to my goal weight. I look great now and people tell me I look good often.
You're an idiot if you think that cutting back 200 calories a day and eating healthy foods for a while gives me an eating disorder. I'm now back to eating regular food and a regular amount of calories and I look and feel completely fine.

I'm ugly, chubby, and autistic. No one hits on me. I don't know how to be a girl. I don't really like wearing girly clothes but for some reason I really like cosplaying because then I can pretend to be a girl even though I don't feel like one.

>>7409468
>>7409531
>>7409563
I know this is bait, but seriously, every time this debate comes up I just sigh. Multiple times I've tried to explain the real reason behind the naming of the fashion, even linking to the Japanese Wikipedia page for Lolita, yet still nobody fucking listens. So here's the short version. Again. Because nobody can remember shit apparently.
>'Lolita' became a term in the West due to the book of the same name, people can't read for shit so they decide it means a sexually promiscuous young girl.
>In Japan, younger, more girlish-looking anime characters are becoming more prominent. Not in a sexual way, but just becoming more popular with both male and female fans.
>The term 'Lolita' is brought to Japan, misinterpreted to mean "A girl who looks younger than she actually is," vs. the West's "A young girl who acts older than she is."
>'Lolicon' (a.k.a. "Lolita Complex") is coined to refer to people who have a tendency towards 'Lolita' characters (so girls who are in high school, university who look like middle schoolers) Lolicon is still not seen as a sexual thing.
>The Lolita name sticks to Lolita fashion because of all the Jfash at the time (decora, visual kei, goth, so on,) it was the most girlish and youthful.
>The term Lolicon only became sexual when a disturbed man killed a bunch of young girls. When he was caught he plead that he had 'Lolicon' and couldn't help himself. It wasn't a super well-known niche at the time, so of course news stations blew up and started accusing all Lolicon of being freaky-ass sexual deviants.
>Non-sexual Lolicon high-tailed it out of there as the name and the media coverage attracted more and more freaks.
>This is way modern-day animu girls look like they're 8 when they're really 37
>This is why Japanese Lolitas aren't bothered by the name -- because it still just means "A girl who looks super young."
>'Lolicon' and 'Lolita' are viewed as two completely separate words now.

I'm usually the first to preach that people should spend their money and decorate their bodies any way they want, but I think that if you're not in lolita entirely or at least first and foremost because you love the aesthetic, you don't "deserve" to wear it and you should get the fuck out and sell your dresses to people who will love them inherently. Disliking your comm should not dissuade you from the fashion; if it does, you don't inherently love it and gtfo. Your coords not getting notes should not dissuade you from the fashion; if it does, you don't inherently love it and gtfo. Changes in current trends should not dissuade you from the fashion; if it does, you don't inherently love it and gtfo. Etc, etc.

>>7408911
Ahah. I'm also unfortunately a poorfag.

So being out $600 for maybe upwards of a month until I buy, get, and then resell if I don't like it wouldn't be so great for me.

Maybe I'll buy the replica and then go for the real deal if it DOES suit me.

>>7409887
>lolicon is still not a sexual thing.

But this is wrong you retard. This greetext contradicts itself a number of times, and it's clearly written by a weeb who knows you can just edit wikipedia in different languages if you can type in the same language.

>>7410039
I completely agree with you.

>>7410052
They meant at that period in time you dumbfuck
>what are context clues?

>>7410044
Suit yourself I guess...but resale value is low on replicas so it will end up being more expensive to do it that way in the end. Seems dumb but have fun.

>>7410097
It's less than $100, and I've seen a shitty damaged replica of the same type sell for $40 already.

Quite honestly, I have a very strong feeling that I'll end up not liking it how I thought I would. It's happened with every single dress I thought I was in love with so far. They're just always wrong for me.

>>7410039
I don't get your logic. So people shouldn't wear Nike unless they're athletes or love physical activity either?

>>7410132
I would add "like the aesthetic," which is the point I'm making, largely. But Nikes aren't an expensive niche fashion, and they're also generally utility objects.

>>7410132
Not OP, but I'll add that Lolita is a lot more rare than Nike. You can find Nike in most general athletic stores, whereas Lolita is more of a collectors hobby -- the more "rare" and "desirable" the piece, the more people who want it and the harder it is to find.
Imagine your dream dress stuffed away in the closet of some unknowing casual, who's only ever worn it once or twice and doesn't really care what happens to it. You will never get your hands on that dress, and it will just waste away until the day that person chucks it, loses it, or dies.
Or imagine your dream dress being worn to school by some spoiled 14-year-old who thinks she's super anime and kawaii, then spills some 7/11 slushie all over it during lunch break and tosses it in the garbage once she gets home.

>>7410132
Adding on to what >>7410187 is saying, but with hobbies, I feel like if you're not buying whatever it is because you absolutely love it, and can't see yourself falling OUT of love with it anytime soon, you should probably spend your money elsewhere.

Lolita is not a 'utility' fashion, to use anon's phrasing. You know it's not exactly useful when you're buying the dress or the skirt or whatever, in that you can't just throw it on when you want to go to the beach or amusement park. You're buying it because you think it's pretty.

I see it like collecting something, or buying video games. Shit gets expensive, so why would you spend all that money to please other people? Why would you buy video games so other people can enjoy the thought of you having them? Why would you buy a 300+ dollar dress so other people can gush over you for a few minutes, then move on to the next person? If you're not getting joy just from the act of purchasing and owning the dress, regardless of if you're getting attention or not, you're blowing your money for silly reasons. Popularity passes, and at the end, you're stuck with thousands of dollars worth of dresses that you don't even care about.

i fucking love qi lolita

I'm a guy and I use /cgl/ to lower my opinion of women.

>>7410342
No woman would want you anyway

>>7410342

>>7410109
Are you choosing dresses that suit your body shape, coloring and style? Which ones do you end up loving instead?
It's sometimes deceiving to just see the dress on the net or on someone else with different body shape, different styling and accessories that are not what I'd use.

I really try to think out the coordinate before I decide to buy. Brand dresses aren't cheap so mistakes aren't easy financially for anyone!

It's also kind of easy for me to feel overwhelmed in a busy or large print even though I'm tall. CC is like that with those diamonds plus large motifs on the hem. I know it will be an exception to how I usually coordinate but some prints are worth breaking somewhat out of my style for. I usually wear black blouses so will choose a brown one for it, and shiny brown shoes with a little heel and a simple brown wig with a mid-size headpiece. I may need to make a simple underskirt with brown chiffon ruffles to add a bit of length to the look. That will keep the bustier JSK within my style comfort zone and not be so 'sweet'.
Gothic is easier, haha.

>>7410286
Ok, I love lolita fashion way more than I love sneakers, but there are many Nike shoes that are way more rare and collectible than any AP dress. I've never seen a lolita dress sell for $10,000.

>>7407534
lol
i used to think that too, and i developed anorexia and then bulimia when i was made to eat.
gained the weight back healthily and I have fat. Yes, I have fat now but also a 26 inch waist. -Being- fat may not be good, but -having- enough fat is vital for a well functioning brain.
All my flaws were still there too, I was just underweight.
Being that starved makes you obsessed with food, weight, etc-and you sound like you are. If it's hurting you or making you bitter then something is wrong.

>>7410448
First was Ekaterina OP in wine
Second was some offbrand A-line
Third was Infanta's Black Sugar Tea JSK (though I still have this and wear it as otome. I think this is just the dress not allowing enough room for my pettis - even the deflated ones)

I ended up absolutely falling in love with Pumpkin Cat Queen of Hearts JSK from taobao, pic related. The shape was great on me, but the colors didn't go so well with my hair and skin tone, so I sold it despite my undying love. I wish I could get it back.

I honestly think it might be the length, since I have sort of long legs with knobly knees, if a dress is a bit too short it just makes my knees look terrible.

That JSK was long enough to come down to the middle of my knee, and the Infanta dress covers part of my knee as well.

I have a few dresses ready for a taobao order once I get the money and I'm REALLY crossing my fingers that they'll be long enough.

I think I might actually have some photos of me in the other dresses floating around too though.

Sort of a confession, I guess.

I really want to attend meets, but I can't. Every time I wear a petti (or a high waist skirt, or anything similar) I get terrible stomach/digestive problems from the band rubbing against my tummy all day. I don't want to show up only to feel terrible an hour in and burden everyone, but I don't want to skip the petti and look like shit either.

>Went on a date in lolita today, laying in bed with a stomachache tonight.

>>7410524
I'm sorry anon, I know exactly how you feel.
This is why I've started to move more to otome and mori kei, no petticoats/waistbands required.

I have yet to meet a lolita I genuinely like. There is only one lolita I have met who I became good friends with but she doesn't even consider herself a lolita, she only dabbles in it. I have a lot of lolita friends but I really can't stand them in large doses. All of them are either super into anime and act like "spazzy anime characters" screaming, talk about sex/their multiple partners all the time when no one is asking, complain about how poor they are as they drop tons of cash on lolita and eating out, or are crazy anal feminazis who look down on men, drinking, clubbing, and "normal people."

I just want to meet some down to earth lolitas who are somewhat stable and can take care of their adult selves. Is that so much to ask?

>>7410524
Take the elastic out and thread a drawstring in instead, or put in a waistband. Only reason pettis have elastic is to fit a wide range of sizes, if it's yours you don't need to.

>>7410484
I'm not obsessed with food, and I am happy now that I am at the weight that I wanted to be at and I look good. I just need to exercise now and I'll look great.
Also, I have had no trouble staying at 95 pounds by just eating normal foods like anyone else eats. Do you think someone "obsessed with food" would eat stuff like fried chicken and brownies? Actual anorexic people don't eat stuff like that.
You all are desperate to make it seem like I have some rapid eating disorder but guess what. I got down to my target weight in a gradual and healthy way and I eat whatever foods are around like a normal person. I'm not starving myself and I'm not throwing up and I look good.
How hard is this for you to understand?

>>7410593
It's anything tight rubbing on my stomach though. That wouldn't help at all.

If it's not tight enough it'll fall down. If it's too tight it'll irritate me. I literally cannot win.

>>7410548

we exist anon, I swear, but it's hard to find us since usually only the loud obnoxious weebs get noticed.

>>7410633
maybe wear empire waist dresses and a longer petti resting above your stomach?

>>7410633
Could you just take out the elastic and then carefully safety pin the petticoat from the inside of the petticoat to an inconspicuous part of your dress so that the safety pin doesn't show on the outside of your dress?

>>7410342

imma guy XD

Go find attention somewhere else faggot.

>>7410524
>>7410538
Suspender petticoat

>>7409563
You dropped the ball troll chan. Nobody who didn't understand the fashion would know the name of Dreamy Baby Room. Maki and Asuka would be ashamed.

>>7410524
I sometimes have the same thing but my Victorian Girl petti doesn't do this. It's secure without being tight and it doesn't have an elastic waistband.

>>7408842
How did I guess that it was this video before even guessing the link? awesome.

>>7409531
>She's never the real initiator of perversion.

Wrong.
Humbert is the sole aggressor at the start (arguably - although there are many ambiguities), but Dolores ends up fucking him over, and flaunts her sexuality, undermining him. At least, that's what we hear from Humbert's testimony.

>>7410886
Yeah, but he's a pedophile kidnapper and she's a 12-year-old child. She just has a little school girl crush on him, and he takes utter advantage of it.

>>7408825
That is actually a good idea, I hate running though. So it will be a huge task to force myself, but I really need something else then negativity eating

>>7408874
I still fit into it, but I feel like fat princess from that video game. I have some huge self esteem issues, and it doesn't help that my dad/mom remind me that I am ''getting so fat'' every weekend that i visit them.

>>7410886
I think the thing that makes it such a great book is you can see it both ways. Dolores and Humbert are both victims to each other in various ways, both were initiators at some point and abused the control they had over one another in some way. I feel bad for both of them, the man who couldn't control his urges and was ruined by them and his love for a girl who eventually gladly 'broke his heart'. The young girl who was abused and manipulated by a man who was meant to be her protector and even when she finally escapes doesn't ever really get the innocence and love she needed.

>don't mind when people go all 'omigawd lolita is a perversion thing' because I view the book as romantic and beautiful anyways and they clearly don't know shit.

>>7410708
They'd know it was ageplay

>>7410914
>That is actually a good idea, I hate running though. So it will be a huge task to force myself, but I really need something else then negativity eating
It could be a way to channel your negativity
>Goddammit I hate running
>Why do I have to do this
>This fucking sucks

Which means you're grumbling about that and not other stuff!

I want my comm to lead me somewhere secluded, hold me back, undress me, and force me into smoking hot lesbian sex.

>>7411899
That's kind of like how I wish me and my comm would go to a hot bath house and bathe naked and we could all talk and giggle and I could see their boobs and maybe what their pussies looked like probably masturbate to the thought of a couple of the girls completely naked for a long time.
I'm glad none of them know I'm this sick. I desperately want to see one of them naked but they're straight.

>>7411920
Admittedly, I'm very lazy when it comes to fantasies.

I'm not as interested in their bodies as I am in them being interested in my body. I imagine them saying things like "Oh, Anon's so adorable and sweet! Look at that cute face!" and things like that as they undress me. Forced (kind, but still forced) kisses, gentle caresses, tender and consoling pecks on the cheek as they play with me while I'm held against the wall... I'd love to touch them, though, and wouldn't mind doing so in the slightest.

These are some sick fantasies of mine. I'm so sorry, comm members.

>>7411937
Your fantasy does sound really nice actually, and really I'm just extremely curious about what a lot of people look like under their clothes, especially my friends and such. I do want to see what some of the girls look like naked because I'm attracted to them but the rest is general curiosity.
Also, I wish I could do almost a reverse of your fantasy for one girl I know. I wish I could lead her into a room and once we were there force her down on the bed and kiss and lick her neck and make out with her once she got a bit horny, then grope her and take off her clothes and proceed into hot lesbian sex. Too bad it’ll never happen but it is a fantasy I’ve had for a while.

>>7411955
We could do this for each other, anon.

Th-that is, if you're up for it. Is your comm anywhere near Texas?

>>7411955
I-I like your fantasy, too.
Sorry for not contributing much to the thread other than sick fantasies.

>>7411961
That would be really awesome, but I live in New Jersey... Why do you have to be so far away?
Also I'm not actually in a comm, it's more like a group.
>tfw there's no such thing as a /cgl/ hook-up thread and one could only be made on a horrible board like /soc/
>>7411971
Yeah, it sucks that noone around where I live probably thinks of stuff like this, and it's allright, this is a confession thread so sick fantasies technically count.

>>7411981
Maybe one day we will be united by some strange turn of events, and we'll be able to fulfill our sick, horrid fantasies.

Until that unlikely day, my dear, sweet anon. I remain your's~

>>7411990
oddly enough something kind of similar happened to me once. I was at an anime convention to attend some lolita panels and ended up drinking with friends and staying late for the adult track. I walked into some kind of cosplay strip show while investigating what was going on in each of the panel rooms, and one of the sweet lolis that I'd met earlier that day came up to me and nearly fell over on me. She was really drunk and kept telling me that I was so cute and at first I was like haha thank you that's so nice and then I realized she was trying to make out with me. We were both in huge clunky lolita shoes and she was really unsteady on her feet, so we both fell over together and I had to help her up and out of the panel room. I would have felt uncomfortable about leaving someone that inebriated alone, so I was trying to figure out where her friends were and/or what her hotel room number was so I could take her to someone she knew, but we literally did not even make it to the elevators before con security noticed the two loli girls tripping and falling down all over the place and swooped in. They took her away to a nurse's area and I think managed to contact some of her friends afterwards, so I'm glad that things worked out but man I wish I'd gotten her name or phone number or something.
I think I actually facebook-stalked some of the con attendees afterwards to try to find out who she was, but all I could find was a basically defunct professional facebook profile with an image that *might* have been her but was impossible to confirm.
anyways, don't give up on your dreams. one day a drunken lolita will pounce on you, too. be quicker on the draw than I was, though.

>>7411899
>>7411920
>>7411937
>>7411955

Extremely weeaboo, but I really wanna sleep with my boyfriend in cosplay while acting character a bit, sounds stupid but yeah.

>>7411955
>>7411961
>>7411971
>>7411981
>>7411990
Fuck me, am I on /fit/ again? Also:
>holding them down on a bed
>kissing them
>sick
No way. This is Abbey Winters tier vanilla. Check out their girl on girl stuff. It might be your thing for just ideas, if not to schlick.

I am finally going to come out: I am a transethnic Japanese woman.
I’ve noticed that on Tumblr there is a lot of ignorance and hate about us, and I’d like to civilly redress that. Unlike the LGBTQA+ movement, which I strongly and proudly support, insults and bashing is all the transethnic community gets.
One complaint we get is that we are ‘racist.’ It is not racist to appreciate and admire a culture different than the one surrounding us. It is not racist to know that the body we live in is different than our soul. It is not racist to wish to be normal in our culture-but the problem is, our body is the wrong color and makes us stand out. I don’t hold anything against white people for the tragedies occurring during World War II-that was the American government’s fault, and the blame does not lie with a specific race of people. Of course all people from the same country and ethnicity don’t think the same, but people of my race living in my country Japan share a common cultural identity. And the people with this Japanese culture have Japanese skin. Ethnicity has to do with culture, not just skin color.

>>7413179
Another complaint we get is that we are ‘trying to feel special by giving ourselves problems that don’t exist.’ I don’t think of being transethnic as a movement. I don’t want attention redirected on us while transgender people face horrible struggles. All I want is for people to look at me as the right race and nationality, like being called the right pronouns. I don’t want to be transethnic; this isn’t a choice. I didn’t wake up one morning and say “I want to be Japanese!” Years of my life accumulated and I felt so out-of-place in an American white body. I finally had the confidence in myself to admit that my soul is Japanese. It would so be much easier to just be a foreigner in Japan, and it would be even easier just to be born in the right country in the first place. There is nothing wrong with me and my brain, however, and I accept that my identity is non-binary. But just because people devalue me, I can’t do that to myself. I can’t pretend and I won’t hide behind my body any longer. I am proud to be Japanese even if I wasn’t born that way, but this journey to become my true self isn’t easy.

>>7413181
A further complaint is that we are ‘demeaning transgender people by our comparisons.’ The same arguments once used against transgenders are now used against us. People rant that one’s skin color has to define us. I wonder why those people feel threatened by us, somehow, to take so much offense at us being ourselves. A body is just a shell and a soul is what really matters, but it is very hard to wake up and interact in the wrong shell every day of our lives. Science cannot be used as an argument either; even if there is no ‘proof’ about mismatched identities and ethnicities/nationalities, being gay used to be considered a disease, and gender dysphoria is even now sadly referred to as a disorder. I don’t know if being transethnic is biological or environmental-I can’t explain how it happens-but that doesn’t make it any less real. One can’t say “poof!” and make all of us go away. Telling us to “stop” and being offended by us just aggravates the battle-of-sides that our coming-out has sadly become. We can’t stop being ourselves, and the real problem is the pain it gives us to try to pretend and fit into the wrong societies and bodies.

>>7413179
I know what you mean man.
I'm transaestheticed. Its not my fault I don't have those gaunt perfect features and height like David Bowie, and I am fucking sick to death of the trans-A hate and all this fucking shit about it "not being a real problem" when this was shit I was BORN knowing

>>7413182
And just because it hasn’t been documented in earlier history, some of us could have been hiding it or we just didn’t have a way to express our transethnicity. Respect is a simple thing, and it’s all we’re asking for. I’m Japanese so don’t think of me as someone false; my body is plastic and not my true self. Also, it is a real hardship that we don’t have a way to transition. We can’t get an operation to become our true skin color physically. We’ll always be stuck in this body, and that frankly is an idea I struggle with greatly. I’m so glad transgender people can surgically become themselves, and wish it was easier for them. But us transethnic people? We can change our names and nationalities, but our skin color is always going to be dyed in this unfitting shade.

>>7413184
Because of that, our self-confidence can plummet to the point of self-harm, which is really sad when you think of how /cgl/ and Tumblr aggravates it with unflattering and blatantly disrespectful hate-filled posts under the tag. (If that’s you, please talk to me. You need help-it’s society that is the problem, not your inner self.)
I understand how some transethnics feel offended by all the hate, but that doesn’t give us a right to insult cisethnic people. To gain respect, we have to have allies and give respect. I am articulating our points, but the flame wars have seriously got to stop. I am a cis woman, and I am very lucky and thank the kamisama every time I have my period because there are plenty wonderful women who would give everything to have the opportunity to have a female body with the ability to give birth. In fact, I’d love to be a surrogate mother for lovely trans ladies. I am a strong advocate for that movement and plan to write a manga documenting the main character’s journey of self-identity from ‘male’ to female.

>>7413186
Me being myself takes nothing away from transgender people. I never said I was oppressed by others for coming out as transethnic. Bullied and harassed, oh yes, but I wasn’t calling attention to it and taking it away from the LGBTQA+ movement. However, bullying is wrong, and the hate-filled internet rants do count as harassment. The bullying is the problem, not the cause for it. Have I been discriminated against for being a different race outside than inside? No, and I never claimed to have been. Has my identity dysphoria been so strong that I was driven to self-harm and suicide? To the latter, yes, actually. So this is a serious issue, and not something that should be mocked because it is new and different.
As for otherkin and transabled people? That is completely different, and they don’t deserve the bashing either- yet transethnic is not the same category.

>>7413188
Now, I will share my story. My name is Yuki Ayamine. I am accomplished and ambitious, and I do not sit in front of the internet all day but instead balance schoolwork, social justice, writing, drawing, and studying my country and its language with a loving passion. I’ve always experienced extreme nationality dysphoria, and recently realized it is ethnic dysphoria too. I feel disgusted and disappointed when I look at the mirror and my inside is still hidden. This is serious, not some mental ‘problem,’ as I was almost driven to suicide because my future seemed so bleak in a land like this. Then I realized, Japan is so close to being perfect. At least, Japan is my perfection, my happiness, the country that I belong in and that I should have been part of my entire life. It’s not just because I love anime and am a fujoshi fangirl-it’s not just because I love everything that’s kawaii-it’s not just because Pocky and ramen are my favorite foods-it’s everything about Japan that defines me and explains who I am as a person.

>>7413185
YOU TOO????
Fuck I am the same but I was supposed to be born like Johnny Depp :/ Shit hurts that I don't look or act that way. May be taking surgery to correct that in November but I'm waiting for a doctor to actually take me seriously first without flying to Korea. Fuck society.

>>7413190
I’m a typical Japanese girl who loves Japanese pop culture and society and the ancient traditions still manifest in Kyoto. Of course Americans can love Japan, but there’s a difference between being an American otaku and someone whose true satisfaction comes from their Japanese identity. I plan to spend the rest of my life studying and experiencing everything about Japan, and will move soon. I am very excited to renounce the American citizenship that’s been hanging over my head and threatening my happiness. I know that in Japan because of my skin color I will be looked upon as a foreigner, and that’s why I plan to live with a host family. After getting rid of the western-ness I may accidentally have acquired, I’ll be a normal Japanese in every situation, socially and culturally.

>>7413193
Have I ever been to Japan? Every single day in my head. I know my dreams of Japan aren’t farfetched as I spend all my time researching the true Japan, plus I have Japanese friends. I shouldn’t be living life inside my head, and I know that I’ll be able to stop hiding once I set foot onto my country and breath real Japanese air. Now I’ll explain how I realized I was transethnic. Around this summer I realized that Japan isn’t some silly obsession, nor is he someone who’s impression can ever fade away. Japan is not just my heart, but also my soul. I realize that everything I truly enjoy in life is Japanese-my favorite everything; song, show, art, toy, etc.-and my aesthetic sensibilities were all derived from my country, Japan. I started referring to Japan and his people by using ‘we.’ I had developed enough self-confidence in myself because of anime to believe I deserve to belong to such a perfect place. Of course there are problems with Japan, but he’s as close to perfect as I’m ever going to find, and it was shocking to me that humans could create something so wonderful.

>>7413192
>>7413185
Really guys?

>>7413194
Japan gave me faith in humanity while I was a depressed child who hated America and had no hope because of the meat industry. I believe in my people, and this sensation of love and trust and belonging is a wonderful one that for me just doesn’t apply to America. Japan teaches me so many things. For example, LGBTQA+ rights is very important to me, and through Japanese media I discovered gay romance and my beloved favorite anime character, a trans woman, the lovely Ms. Grell Sutcliffe. Because Japan is so inspirational, I decided to learn Japanese. I started studying this summer and can now read/write two alphabets and am learning the third. I am confident with my Japanese pronunciation and listen to Japanese shows and news and music constantly. Of course I have a lot of work to go to become fluent, but I study every single day. The more I learn about Japan, the more I learn about myself. I look at the world from a Japanese point of view; even my religion is Japanese. Japan’s culture and society fit me so well and I absolutely love them. I was also able to come out of my head at the anime convention I went to this summer, JAFAX, and met a wonderful maid who came from Japan. She helped me realize that I want to have a Japanese career; working at a maid café and manga café while in college, then being a manga artist and light novel author. Living in America for me is being a fish out of water; the atmosphere here is suffocating, and I cannot focus and drown life out with fantasy. When I’m Japan I’ll take my first breaths of the air I was always meant to be breathing. See, I’m proudly and transethnically Japanese, and I demand respect for other non-binary identities. Thank you for reading.
/rant over

>>7413192
Yeah well Im actually going to do (IF i do) my first procedure with my boyfriend whom I met on Trans-A iirc , he was also born trans-A but for Will Smith which will be interesting ha ha. I don't know how he'll handle it all as hell need both entire body skin change AND gender change as well. I'm really worried for him. I hope you go well with your procedure though

>>7413181
okay i'm just gonna go ahead and burst your bubble. being an ethnicity other than white does not ultimately give you a different life experience or "culture." the japanese culture that you identify with is nothing like actual japanese culture. my issue with "transethnicity" is that it perpetuates the idea that ethnic group share easily identifiable aspects other than general physical traits. there is nothing that dictates that one japanese person has the same culture as another or that you being interested in these cultures means that you are actually japanese. you're just a fucking weaboo.

>>7413200
it's b80 m80

>>7413199
Well it will be more than one procedure for me too but it helps I'm already white hehe... I don't want to go full scale and change gender though, its just my outer appearance is all!
I'm so glad I got this off my chest though. to be honest I wasn't even going to post this here as it wasn't really cosplay related tho it will help with my JD cosplay in the future!

>>7413197
10/10 trolling

>>7413200
its bull lol.

speaking from a Korean in the AU, whatever this shit is its bullshit. also its obvious copy pasta, check the time stamps

>>7413206
are you patting yourself on the back here?
-10/10, the shit you pasted is literally unbelievable and youd be retarded to think this was clever

>>7407502
Because they feel like the world should bend (or stretch) to fit THEIR needs.

>http://ineedfatacceptance.tumblr.com/

At least, in my own experience, if they refuse to get clothing made to their size and refuse to try to look good in it, they tend to be self-entitled POS.

>>7413200
No, I know I am Japanese. If you read any of my posts, you'd realize that I'm in the wrong body and my mind is that of a Japanese girl.

>>7413208
I typed it out a while ago, and I've been waiting for this thread to post it in. I also have it posted on my Tumblr

>>7408201
Gurl are you in my comm.

The festival on the 13th of april?

I don't really know anyone yet as I live really god damn far away, but I think I'll actually be able to make that meet.

But don't worry. I have terrible thoughts like that too. And I feel really hypocritical since I'm a newbie and don't have a whole lot of clothing so my coords are pretty boring.

>>7413212
not eben cosplay or lolita

>>7413215
I do cosplay. Or, at least I plan to. I'm super savvy about cosplaying as Grell to JAFAX 19.
Here's me at JAFAX 18.

>>7413212
TL;DRs aren't very good trolling material. If it's something as outlandish as transniggerism, you're better off with a few loaded statements. The link to the legbutt movement is nice, though. They're usually the first to complain, and that get's the ball rolling. The shit you wrote is what you write down AFTER they get the bait, when there are some who might think you're serious.

>>7413221
I'm not trolling, and tbh it kind of offends me that you're saying all these things just because you don't want to accept my identity. Legbutt?

>>7413181
Is this for real? Wtf... this has to be a joke.

>>7412876
I know it's not "sick" as in horribly gross, but these are still normal friends and stuff I hang out with and I really want to see what they look like completely naked and I want to force down the one and make out with her and have sex with her, this would definitely creep her and everyone else in my group out and would make them think I was sick.

>>7413436
>I really want to see what they look like completely naked and I want to force down the one and make out with her and have sex with her
I FUCKING LOVE /cgl/ SOOO MUCH.

>>7413436
That's because you are. I pity your friends, I hope they realize what kind of person you are and get away from you.

>>7413179
>>7413181
>>7413182
>>7413184
>>7413186
>>7413188
>>7413190
>>7413193
>>7413194
>>7413197

>>7413449
This is some apprentice ruseman shit.

>>7413436
For my fantasy's sake, I hope you're conventionally hot.

So, confessions!

If you meet me I will wear pretty dresses and do my hair and make up for about half an hour or longer, but my room is a gigantic mess, I am a lazy slob and I probably havent showered for days. I just look good on the outside.

I constantly buy dresses for the person I wish I was but I am not. Dresses that do not fit, skirts that are too small, etc. Even the dresses that I do fit I almost never wear because I am just too insecure. I always wish to be a badass who doesnt care what everyone thinks and wears cool clothes whenever she likes, but actually I am shy, insecure and I hate attention, so most of my stuff is barely of never worn - and I mostly have classic/casual stuff, nothing OTT. I still struggle so much to gather the courage to wear it.

I really hate it when people say "I am not insane, I will never by brand dresses for $300!!"
Seriously, everyone hates on brandwhores, but I have yet to meet one. Most people are the complete opposite and it is awful. STFU about hating brand. No one cares, and you are probably just a whiny teenager who is excatcly like all the people you hate, just on the other side of the spectrum.

I spend way too much money on Lolita and clothes in general. I live with my parents so I do not have any financial responsibilites, but I never ever manage to save some money. Everything I earn is sooner or later spend on dresses, accesoires, ecetera.
Right now my clothes are one of the few joys in my life, so I cannot really bring myself to stop it.

/Confessions.

>>7407534
Your boyfriend is 140lbs at 5'10, and you want him to lose weight?

>>7413436
Fantasies aren't as uncommon as you make them out to be. Typically, when someone is attracted to another person, they think about them sexually. That is normal.
It's not polite to detail these fantasies with them, just like you're not supposed to go into detail about your shitting habits. They're private, you keep it to yourself, but they aren't inherently bad.
If you were to approach them, you'd start with "I'm attracted to you." Starting off with the dirty talk sounds live you'd assume they already reciprocate, which is why they'd react poorly. Not because having fantasies is bad, but because sharing them is sexual harassment.

I'm assuming you don't actually plan to rape any of them, but would enjoy a consensual scene where you'd hold her down, right?
You recognize that it wouldn't be appropriate to go through with your fantasies, that you'd need to get to know them and have consent first.
Dirty talk is the same way.

>>7407020
http://myanimelist.net/animelist/Ruggarell

>>7413508

140 lbs at 5'10 is a okay weight. Just depends on if its 140 lbs of fat or muscle.

Someone can weigh the same as someone else and look completely different to to body composition.

>>7413508
/dif
I don't think lose weight is the right word. She probably means lose fat, which is different. If he got /fit/, he might get to 150, but fit into smaller sizes and generally look better.

>>7413476
>do my hair and make up
>I am a lazy slob and I probably havent showered for days
How do you get the makeup to stay on the grease? Do you use perfume like the Broski uses Axe bodyspray?

>>7413528
>How do you get the makeup to stay on the grease?

Eh, I wash my face or use some of those make up remover wipes. Dry shampoo for my hair, althoug it does not get greasy that fast.

>Do you use perfume like the Broski uses Axe bodyspray?

Haha, no. I am mostly laying in bed all day anyway, so I do not sweat much. I might use some washclothes to clean my armpits and a little bit of deodorant, thats it.

>>7413476
>paying $300 for brand

I don't get why people bitch about this. I have a large, high-quality wardrobe full of brand and good indie brand, prints included, and have never paid more than $200 for a single piece. I don't have any of the super-rare prints, sure, but if your argument for not having a good outfit is "but teh $300 dresses!!!11" then you're just not trying hard enough. Not that you have to. Buy comm sales, buy secondhand sites, buy auctions, go to local swap meets. You pretty much only have to pay $300+ for brand new brand name pieces, custom tailormade pieces, and rare pieces.

>>7413607
It's hard to find Juliette et Justine or Moitie for lower or used prices though. I think not-very-popular things or non-printed things, maybe. Not that you can't get good things but maybe not anything exceptional very often? Comm sales aren't all that cheap.

>>7413455
You're in luck, a lot of people tell me I'm really cute and I get compliments even outside of lolita. It sucks because I could get a guy to date me if I wanted but I want a cute loli girlfriend and it seems pretty hard to find one here.
>>7413523
That makes sense! And no I don't plan to rape anyone, fantasies are just fantasies, I would like a consensual version too though.

>>7413623
> It sucks because I could get a guy to date me if I wanted
Easy there, Yresa.
It's not like I can ask you for proof. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, though.

>I would like a consensual version too though.
>consensual version too
>too
I LOVE /cgl/.

>>7413537
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrroce.

>>7413607

I do not get it either.
I recently had a discussion where a girl wrote "Well, I love Innocent World, but I would never pay 300€ for a dress!" (and 300€ is like 425 dollars). I pointed out that I owned brand myself, and never paid that much for a single dress. Even dresses ordererd from IW site arent more than 130-180€, and that it is possible to get brand cheap if you arent after popular pieces or prints, and if you are patient. Her response was "Well, but I still would never pay $150 for a dress!" right after she bragged about how much Bodyline stuff she ordered and how much she would still love IW. I dont get it, at all. Those people just make me sad and angry, especially since they mostly give you this vibe of arrogance - "Oh, so you paid $200 on brand? Wow, how stupid and vain you are!"

I dont care what you buy, be it Bodyline or Taobao or whatever, but this "Brand is so expensive! Scalping! I can never afford brand and everyone who does is a rich elitist!!"-attitude really goes on my nerves.

>>7413636
>Easy there, Yresa.
>It's not like I can ask you for proof. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, though.
That isn't an "easy there" thing, should I act like I have really low self esteem just for my post?
It's okay for people to know that they are attractive enough to be able to attract people to date. I was just meaning that I could find a boy to date if I wanted to, but I would like to date a lolita and it is hard to find a bisexual or lesbian one around here.

>>7413659
Okay, I get it. It's just that a statement like that sounds pretty loaded when read off of a 4chan, let alone /cgl/, post. The only tone on the internet is the dial tone, a saying that is hella outdated.

>>7413665
Yeah I get what you mean, it can be hard to read people's tones just off of text alone!
Things can mean something pretty different when read a certain way so I understand how what I said could sound loaded if you didn't fully know what I meant with it.

>>7413669
You could have said something like "If I wanted to, I could go out and find a guy to date" rather than "I could get a guy to date me". The latter sounds like you believe any guy can fall for your smex, rather than actually finding the guy you're attuned with.

>>7408739
i got the replica when i first started lolita from a girl reselling it. Quality is shit, it's not even worth it. The only reason I don't hate it too much was because it was my first and I got it for a little over a hundred dollars with a free petticoat.

But yeah, if you dearly love CC, get the real brand one. You'll probably love it anyways, and if it doesnt look good, it's CC so you'll be able to resell it easily.

>>7413682
Oh, they both still sound really similar to me but I'll keep that in mind. Thanks anon!

>>7409468
>your daddy issues make you think its isn't sexy, when it obviously isn't.
well, thank you, captain obvious.

>>7408814
What you are experiencing is flat-out jealousy in the classical definition. In Germany we call it Neid, it basically trainslates to "not granting someone something", whatever that is.

I never felt that way because I'm mostly a timid and just man but ever since /biz/ was created and I've gotten a look at the obscene degree of richness some people have I've been getting the same sort of feelings. I don't really envy them, I don't want their money, I just want them not to have the money and whatever comes of it.

The key is that this is, as you've come to realize, extremely toxic behaviour. It will ruin your life and the lives of those that surround you. I managed to get over it though. You know why? Well, I am in an IRC and in a twitter, both fairly close connected. There's many people in there that I envy in the exact same manner, because they got more shit than me, because they're more successful than me, because they lift more, draw better, have dat gf, some of them all of these things at the same time.

I got over it by looking at those people and saying to myself: but I DO grant them this shit. I could never take these good things away from my friends. And it's the same for everyone else; they worked hard for what they have and taking it away would render it all pointless, including my struggles to get it myself.

Try that, look for people who you do grant their happiness and work forward from there. You'll grow as a person.

>Almost want to wear lolita to Warped Tour this summer
>Hot
>Sweaty
>Dirty
>People being rough
>No

>>7415591
You could go as a bodyline Ita monster with those punk tartan leggings.

I have an in with a lot of the bands and DJs that play my favorite con. As much as I hate starfuckers, I get a secret thrill over hanging out backstage, having some of their personal numbers, and especially when band members seek me out in the crowd after their performance. Knowing how many people are clamoring for their attention (even though they aren't big in the grand scheme), and knowing I'm popular enough that they make time to find me...I'm fighting to control my fucking ego.

>>7415615
It's fine. Just don't be easy with them and treat them as you would any guy trying to get in your pants.

>>7415591
I know that feel anon. I just wear tshirts anyway, that shit gets nasty.

>>7410633
Wear suspenders underneath! Attack them to a looser petti.

/cgl/ has turned me into a rude, mean, superficial and even more insecure person. I keep telling myself I have to leave but I'm addicted.

>>7409052
Lol, is dis bitch for real? So many delusional anons here.

>>7415670
I'm all for hardcore seagulls. You know when they're looking at a coord or cosplay they're judging every little bit of it. You can practically see gears turning in their heads.

But every good seagull knows that when s/he looks in the mirror, that judgment should be multiplied tenfold.

I'm 23 and have never had a boyfriend... sometimes i feel like if i never got into weird hobbies like anime or lolita i'd be with someone by now.

>>7415697
Are you acceptably qt?

>>7415702
I'm kind of plain but pretty qt if i have makeup on

>>7413736
this was beautiful to read.
I'm not the person you quoted but I just wanted to say thanks for writing all that out.

>>7415707
Plain is fine. Don't doodle yourself up like a barbie and end up looking like a paint bucket accident. Best looking women I ever saw IRL were those with little makeup (the amount I mean); believe me I can tell, my mum is a cosmetician and taught me all about it. She got permanent makeup for eye liner and lip contour because that's always the shame shit for application.

Maybe you have the same issue as /r9k/ does: you're a perfectly fine person but you don't get into contact with the other sex often enough and when you do you don't have the guts to go for the kill. That's okay you know, but if you want to find someone to be together with you may have to go a bit outside of your comfort zone. I wouldn't go so far as to suggest /soc/ but hey, you never know. Unless you're in southern Germany, then I can be your bedwarmer any night uh yeah bby u wan sum o dat

>>7415714
I came onto this board to troll tumblr rejects about cisprivuledge but helping became more fun, thank you thank you, I'll be here all night.

Since coming to CGL, I've become a lot more critical. I used to be the most laidback "anything goes, just be happy and don't hurt anyone" fucker around. Now I have to force myself to give compliments whenever I say something negative. I'm trying to ease back into how I used to be, but goddamn, it's hard. I've been properly trained to find flaws.

>>7415731
>coming here specifically to hunt for tumblr sjw rejects
oh goddammit is this really what the other boards think of us?
moot, look at what you have done to us. there was once a time that I could hold my head high, proud to be a seagull. the other boards feared our sandy cunts and desired them equally. we were a score of aristocrats as embittered and cruel as any who ever graced the courts of Versailles.
look at us now, moot, look on alongside your wretched janitor. I curse your name with vehemence, you who have forced us to endure this crippling shame.

>>7415746
Beautifully written, anon.
I concur.

>>7415746
Well I have to admit I was incensed by a thread on /a/ about KLK and some crosslinking over here. There were actually people talking about patriachy with a straight face, might have been bait and trolls now that I think about it. Either way I stayed and did some extremely cathartic shittalking, got banned for a day. I liked the board though and the effort you gals put into this stuff so I stuck around.

No reason to feel bad. Most other boards don't even know you exist, including me, and I was /a/, /tg/ and /vg/ for the most part, all of which overlap at least to some degree with your interests. Well, and /fit/ but I don't think any of you want to cosplay as Scooby or Mark Rippetoe.

>>7415746
Yes, yes this. This is why I'm okay with seagulls being elitist bitches. The world in general need more of >>7415738 around, lest we become unwashed filth.
Remember ladies: a fat comment a day keeps the tumblr away.

>>7415751
>I don't think any of you want to cosplay as Scooby or Mark Rippetoe.
I want to cosplay Zyzz, but I manlet. Even if I do get shredded...

>>7415756
>Even if I do get shredded
We're all gonna make it brah
That image tho
>protagonist kun
>not having feels.jpg as face
That's not /fit/

>>7415756
>>7415765
Plus, it needs LEAVE HUMANITY BEHIND Rich Piana somehow.

In middle school I had unhealthy obsessions with Bleach and Jigoku Shoujo. I wore a studded collar every day and recited either Bleach incantations or Jigoku Shoujo's curse of "O pitiful soul blah blah blah"--in Japanese, of course.

Then this guy who was legit half-Japanese called me out on my shit by speaking actual Japanese to me and I was like HURR HURR WATASHI WA KIRA DESU. Cringe-worthy, definitely.

Also I had to make a music video for a project. I chose "God knows..." from Haruhi.

I would like to formally apologize for any damages or secondhand embarrassment I may have caused to my classmates.

>>7415775
We were all dumb chuuni shits when we were in school. Since you realize nowadays it was fucking retarded your sins may be forgive, in the name of the lolita, the fuccboy and the holy Zyzz in his heaven, amen.

>>7415751
You'd be surprised. /fit/ definitely overlaps with /cgl/'s interests, or at least it did before the janitor decided that getting fit for your cosplays weren't board-relevant and all our fit-friday threads got bahleted. if you were wondering why the fitizens in particular even bother making valentines for us and vice versa, that's the reason.

>>7415786
I miss /fit/ fridays. I really think it should be hosted on /fit/ to be on topic instead, though, if it wasn't for the fact that sort of thing cannot survive with the board culture as it is. Any seagull can go on /fit/ for advice, but it won't work unless that thread is pretty much a /cgl/ transplant thread.

Still, it's a romantic thought to see /fit/izens and seagulls laughing at fatties together. Or fat /fit/izens and fat seagulls sticking to the program together. It'll be a beautiful sight.

>>7415803
I miss fit Friday too. It actually kept me motivated for a good long time until the janitors came along and got rid of it. I don't particularly like going to fit because it's far too male centric and inhospitable. I guess if I force myself to look at fit women everyday, that should maybe be enough to keep me going...

>>7415898
/fit/ here
I-I wouldn't mind some more cardiobunny shots in the progress threads... I don't think anybody would.

>>7415920
Yeah, but only cardiobunnies are okay there. If it ain't a fit girl, she better have hella thick skin to post in a progress thread. Then again, seagull.

>>7415803
>>7415898
Yeah. Honestly, /fit/ fridays helped me a lot with some of my disordered eating behaviors. Sure, there were the pro-ana trolls who would post thinspiration, though it was usually so extreme that it freaked me out. Then the /fit/izens would swoop in, bark about we're fucking everything up, and post gorgeous fit women. I was particularly inspired by the picture of a deflated thin woman's butt next to a girl who did her squats. Wow, that was a great butt.

We kind of have the new /fit/ thread in the Lolita Progress Thread, which has had enough discussion of wardrobe progress to avoid the janitor.

>>7415920
While you roamers are sweet, you know perfectly well how cruel your regulars and lurkers can be. I like coming in to look at your fit women threads, and I've seen girls get solid advice there, though through purely text, not selfposting. Selfposting anywhere is a set up to be called an attention whore, unfortunately.

>>7415940
At this point, it really might just be better to make a "Seagull's Guide to /fit/" infographic, instead of a whole thread. The thing is posting it here would be off-topic, and posting it there would be redundant.

>>7415957
Though it wasn't just about the info, it was also encouragement. It helped to talk about your progresses and see other people's progress. To remember your goals and why you made them.

>>7410288
>I see it like collecting something, or buying video games. Shit gets expensive, so why would you spend all that money to please other people? Why would you buy video games so other people can enjoy the thought of you having them?
I know a guy that buys all the videogames his friends want and they can't afford just to make them feel bad. To me he is the mizerablest human being on earth.

>>7415935
Hey if you can bench even just lmao1pl8 then you are welcome, iin /fit/ it's more about the progress than what you are really doing. If you can post some progress pics in one-month steps with your workout I don't think anyone but a troll will complain.

>>7415940
I dunno about attention whores really, you could make a point about every guy in there being an attention whore. It's all about the body after all, nothing wrong about that. Don't let trolls dissuade you from getting /fit/ (and most of the fuckfags would implode with jelly if they see a bit of abs on you anyway).

>>7416424
>you could make a point about every guy in there being an attention whore
B-but they say "no homo"!

>>7416428
Psshh: they say that because they are homo but cannot accept it.

Can someone explain why the hell you all collectively lose your shit when someone so much as mentions the v word, by which I mean voldie?
I swear to god you either hate her and call her a fat slut at every opportunity or you get yelled down as a pathetic samefag attempt
Like I'm not saying she's great or terrible or anything, but what's with the collective board-wide vendetta? Is there any actual reason? Just curious...
>inb4 voldie samefag accusation

>>7419651
Hi.
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