/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Did Baby always sell out of their items so quickly? I swear it's impossible to get anything decent from them new, it's all sold out.

>>7402699
Series that get hyped a lot seem to sell out pretty quickly, but there are also a lot that don't. And popular colorways always disappear really fast. I guess it does seem like things sell out faster than they did in the past, but I would attribute that to more exposure and fans all over the internet.

Is it normal for anyone else's boyfriend to get grumpy while rocking horses are worn? Mine's not short, he's still taller than me when I wear them, he just hates them a lot.
Which is weird because he loves every other weeby thing that I wear.

>>7402699
You pretty much have to reserve if you really want something. It's kind of a pain though because it prevents any spur-of-the-moment purchases and I don't like waiting three months every time I order something.
Even many basics like blouses and socks are all sold out. I wish they could increase production of basic items just a little since they are versatile and have fairly consistent demand. Oh well.

>>7402769
Yeah, the way that socks sell out drives me fucking crazy. I was seriously searching for this one pair of socks for AGES and as soon as they restocked I had to jump on that shit because the last time they sold out in just a couple days.

>>7402776
>>7402769
I've been after a white or pink parasol for months to no avail, from any brand. I'm starting to think it's just a lost cause.

>>7402783
If you're in the US, AP USA has both white and pink parasols under their parasol section of their site right now.

>>7402796
Thanks! It looks like the white one is sold out, but there is a pink one left~

$395 for this sack of an altered dress with no waist ties? wtf

Is there any way to make shoes fit smaller? Can insoles do the job? I need to make a pair of shoes be .5-1.0 cm smaller.

>>7403158
Also, shoes in question, if anyone has experience with Tokyo Bopper in general.

Any busty girls have experience with back shirred blouses? I just ordered one from AP, and I'm worried that even though I'm well within measurements it'll fit strangely since my cups runneth over.

Anons, is it bad to wear a black petti under a pastel dress?
I want to wear my first coord out soon but my CP petti won't arrive in time.
My friend offered to lend me her black petti though... ;_;

>>7403232

I don't think it matters, they're technically undergarments and shouldn't really be seen so.

>>7403232
There is a possibility that it'll show through the fabric though. Be aware and check it in natural light before leaving the house.

>>7403270
>>7403275
Will I be okay if I just wear a white overskirt on top of the petti just in case?

>>7403283
That should be alright!

>>7402699
Seems it.
I personally get real annoyed when they sell out and don't remove the item listing for freaking days or weeks.

>>7402742
Nope, there are even lolitas who feel the same. They just don't understand us!

>>7403158
Insoles and super thick socks (like winter socks) can push you an extra .5-1.

>>7403312
I will buy some insoles, then. I'm a bit worried they might look too big even if they fit, but here's to hoping.

Nooo, an item that I ordered via email sold out via the cart system at Tokyo Alice. It must have sold to someone in Japan as the cart system is only for Japanese customers. Do you think there's any hope that I'll still get it as I ordered it several hours before they did?

>>7403710
...what are you talking about? International customers can use the cart system at Tokyo Alice. You just go through their global rakuten store instead.

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/tokyoalice/

>>7403744
I looked at their guide and it says not to use the cart. I tried just now anyway and it says "

This product cannot be shipped to Au Australia from the store.

Please contact the store for further information."

How long would you give a buyer to pay for an auction? Someone won my LM auction and she hasn't replied to my two PMs or paid my invoice. I know she's reading the PMs since LM has that feature (which is cool IMO). Should I worry about her being a flake? Should I report her after a certain amount of days?

>>7403768
How long ago did the auction end?

>>7403784
Yesterday afternoon. However, I'm usually fine with waiting on a payment as long as the buyer requests a longer timeframe than my 48hr rule on my TOS. I'm more irked by the fact that she didn't reply to either messages, which she read. I just don't want to wait on a flaker as this happened to me before a few times on egl.

>>7403796
Hmm, I'd give it the full 48 hours and then contact an admin (and tell her that that's what you plan to do). I've taken longer than I expected to pay before due to unexpected circumstances/Paypal being weird, but I always checked with the seller first. There's nothing worse than being left in the dark with these things.

Were there any other bidders that you could sell the item to instead?

>>7403802
Thanks for the input. I thought I was bring harsh as a seller...

Since there were no other bidders I might let her have a couple more days (just to be nice) but is it fair to report her if she fails to pay the invoice? Or if she does pay is it fair to take away a star on feedback?

>>7403744
No they can't. You have to use email, it says so on their page.

>>7403710
It's possible they took the item down because they received your order and just haven't gotten around to sending your invoice yet. If you're the anon I was talking to before about how long they take to process orders, I got really nervous about this too because the item I ordered was marked as sold by them before I received an invoice/reply from them but they finally sent it to me a day or two later. Sit tight for the weekend and wait to see what they reply.

I'm in a bit of a Lolita funk. I keep telling myself I'm going to actively hunt for something I want, but I always talk myself out of buying new things. I don't know what it is. I WANT a new dress, I just haven't had anything I can really firmly say "I want this" to.

Suggestions? Thoughts? I realize this is a stupid problem, I just... Really want something new for my wardrobe

>>7403710
Was it the MdM pendant? If so, I had mailed about it too...

>>7403874
Might as well save your money for something you actually want. I think impulse buys can work out in your favor too sometimes, because they're sometimes things you don't realize how well they suit you or how much you like them until you get it in person; as opposed to say having a dream dress you dream about for ages, finally get, and are disappointed with.

>>7403158
I have to use insoles, big socks AND stuff the toes with tissue paper
Bought them way too big.
I don't have an issue with them looking too big on me though, so hopefully you have as much luck!

How do you guys store socks?

And accessories?

>>7403998
>Socks- roll pairs up together, in a drawer
>Hair accessories- currently slightly disorganized in a drawer, but used to hang headbands from slats in a wire rack
>Other misc accessories (collars, pins, gloves) in another drawer
>Necklaces and some bracelets hung from a couple trees/racks, rings in a ring tray, and chunkier bracelets piled together on the jewelry/accessory chest.
>Hats stacked atop another chest

>>7403838
I would like to think so, but I ordered two items and only one of them says that it's sold. Seems a little odd. Yep, that's me. Thanks for your help, kind anon!

>>7403883
Nah, I already have that. I saw that some people wanted it on the MmM FB page but it had already sold out then so I didn't post it there. I hope you get it!

>>7403998
I have three boxes for socks - one for short socks, one for regular socks, and one for tights. It's not a great system though because the boxes are already overflowing.

Pinback bows go into a bag that is hung in the closet. Headbows go into another bag, and nonheadbow hair accessories go into a box.

>>7403998
My socks are folded/rolled in a cute box, and my hair accessories are in one of those plastic drawer sets (and bigger ones are in a shoebox). They're all just in the closet. It's not particularly cute, but it keeps them safe and organized.

I let my friend borrow a pair of my AP otk socks, and they were the newer kind where they're knitted wierd(seem to be made cheaper, idk), but she stretched them wayy more than I thought and when she took them off well.. yeah. Is there any way that I can fix this? Not sure if washing would help or what

>>7404083
Washing always helps tighten my socks right back up!

>>7404083
Washing will probably help a little, but that sucks...

Question. I've got a jsk with shirring in the back, but it's to loose in the back. I found I look better in dresses/jsks that have lacing in the back, then ones with shirring.

So I'm thinking of altering it. Should I leave in the shirring, and simply add in some corset style lacing, or should I take out the shirring stitching, take the back in a bit, then add in the lacing?

It's not a brand piece or super expensive dress, so I'm not worried about altering it. I figured if I couldn't think of anything, I'd consider talking to a professional seamstress and get a quote for altering it.

So all the BtB threads on here seem to just disappear. Are we not to talk about that here anymore or waht?

>>7404101
is your handiwork good?
if yes, do whatever the hell you like
if no, don't modify the shirring, and change only things you can easily remove like add corset lacing

>>7403838
Where is this coming from? I've ordered from their store before without emailing them. It say you can right on their international page:

>For the overseas order, please see here.
>You can use the shopping cart of "Rakuten Ichiba" online shopping mall.
>Tokyo Alice Rakuten Ichiba shop: http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/tokyoalice/

>We can also accept mail-order.
>In the case of mail-roder, we only accept PayPal.

The second method you can send an email and they take Paypal, the first they take credit cards.

>>7404221
It doesn't work, when you try to add it to your cart you get an error message and there's only an option for domestic shipping. It generates a message saying to email the store.

>>7404101
Taking out the shirring would look better. But there's a risk that the fabric may be 'damaged' from being scrunched up for so long. If it's an older dress there may be a noticable difference in how much the fabric has been worn/discoloured between the parts that were exposed and those that were hidden.
Kinda hard to explain, sorry. But stretch out the shirring, if there's no obvious damage, go for it

>>7403232
I wear a black petti under my pastel (sax and pink) dresses and it doesn't show through at all so nobody knows! I wouldn't risk it with white dresses though personally.

Has anyone ordered Juliette et Justine's shoes or boots? Or seen them in real life? How is the sizing? I'm in love with their new long boots... but my feet measure 25,3 cm and L size says 25 cm. Also I'm not sure about the quality because my new J&J dresses have been a bit disappointing.

>>7404250
The boots look a bit bulky worn, all the pictures of the models wearing them seem a bit unfortunate. I guess they work better on people with chubby calves.

I don't own JetJ shoes, but many shoes from other brands and the sizing is pretty much the same everywhere.
If you feet size is bigger than the listed max. it probably won't fit. Japanese shoe sizes list the insole length of the shoes, not the feet size you need for an ideal fit. For an ideal fit your feet should measure 0,5 cm less than the listed Size. My feet measure 24 cm and I always get shoes which measure 24,5 cm.
On a side note, brand shoes are never of high quality unless you buy Jane Marple. They use real leather and last quite long from what I've heard. And for that price tag you can already buy a nice pair of fluevogs or something similar, or maybe find a cheaper alternative on taobao.

>>7404250
Their boots are incredibly comfortable, I love them! :) if you worry about the size, why not contact them?

I have never been to cgl before. I-I feel like I've stumbled into a completely different realm of 4chan. Any qt lolita girls want to be my gf?

>>7404250
It'd be fine, a pair of socks or stockings is much less than a 3mm of shoe

>>7403998
I got a sock organizer (they're on ebay if you search) and a bunch of cookie tins and those hatboxes that werent intended for hats you get a 2 dollar stores with pretty flowers in them for my hair accessories

Also I hang some on my wall.

>>7403931
If you can wear bigger shoes comfortably after stuffing them and filling them out as much as possible then go for it!
Clunky-large shoes look pretty flattering on the legs if they're heels

>>7404125
Nope. Dont try it.

>>7403188
Not particularly busty (I'm tall tho), but personally I feel uncomfortably tight in the chest wearing AP things as is with shirred and non-shirred, maybe its because I'm yet to stretch that shirring to make it work like you see sometimes but it depends if you're fine with tight fit or not.
Personally? No.

>>7402825
What did they do to it?

>>7404027
>tfw you counted and own 50+ pairs of socks and stockings since last counting in december
>continuously buying more

and I stay home almost every day....

>>7404300
Not that anon, but I think they used the waist tie material to make it quite a bit larger.

>>7403165
>>7403931
I prefer to shove cotton balls into the toe when I have size issues.

>>7404302
maybe take a photo of them and keep it on your computer/phone. That way when you think about buying more you can see if you already have a similar one?

>>7403931
>>7404295
>>7404339
Thanks, everyone.
I've bought a pair of insoles and some foam heel cushions, and if those aren't enough I'll try stuffing the toes a bit.

>>7404302
I wish I was you, anon. I have hardly any cute socks.
Is there anywhere to buy cute ankle socks or decent but cheap stockings in person? I've had bad experiences with buying on ebay and am not making a taobao order anytime soon. My town's F21 removed its panty/stockings area (replaced it with athletic wear for some reason), and H&M seems so hit or miss. Urban has an okay selection, but I don't want to waste $10-20 on socks that are shit quality.

How do you guys store your petticoats?
Mine is floating around my room because I'm not sure where to put it and throwing it in my closet hasn't worked

>>7404404
i just hang mines up. its still poofy after 2 years.

>sold a dress to someone online
>later see them on dl wearing it looking haggard as hell and wearing the straps wrong
I'm not quite sure how to feel about this. Oh well, it's not like I wore it any better or I wouldn't have sold it.

>>7403874
Try buffing your wardrobe up with some cheap accessories? That's what I like to do. I can load up cheaply secondhand or from Taobao. New accessories can breath new life into old garments.

>>7403165
I did the same thing anon. The size chart is so innacurate . My tokyo boppers is 0.5 cm too big. Fuckers

>>7403830

Report her if she fails to pay the invoice, and definitely take a star away on feedback. It's the only way people will learn that shit isn't okay. People continue to do it because there's this taboo about giving people less than 100% feedback, so there's no consequences.

>>7404510
Yeah, it sucks. If I had paid full price for these (also wtf is with the extra $30 [plus $40 shipping] tacked onto the "overseas" store?), I would have been a bit peeved. As it is, I think insoles will actually make these fit rather nicely.

>>7404526
Unfortunately i did pay full price . I havent worn them because they dont fit me and no one wants them. Im so angry. What regular shoe size are you? What Japanese size did you get ?

>>7404537
I wear a US 6-6 1/2 (eur 37), and I got a 23.5 on auction. I'm wondering if the shoes are actually in Japanese sizes and not cm, as the site states, as that would explain why these seem to be 1/2 to 1 size too big.
I would try insoles if the style of shoe allows for it.

>>7404279
You don't own very many brand shoes, do you? The only cheap ones are AP and Baby, and even those are okay quality, usually.

On their website they say that they have unique sizing, and they have a size chart per style. I think even that runs large, honestly. They run almost a whole size big.

I'm just starting to get into buying my first lolita coord (although i have been stalking the fashion for years now)

I'm only 4'11 in height and around 100 pounds, what kind of dresses should I aim to get that don't make me look like a frumpy marshmallow? and just any other tips would be greatly appreciated

I'm only 4'11, so I'm short that although even if the

>>7404577
Their size chart says 23.5=US 6.5, so yeah, I'd say they run big.

>>7404577
The shoe runs big. 0.5 cm bigger.

I am just starting into buying my first lolita coord although I am a bit paranoid about one specific thing.

I'm 4'11 in height and 100 pounds, what kinds of dresses would not make me look like a frumpy marshmallow? any other tips on not looking frumpy would be greatly appreciated

>>7404590
Measurements & pics > weight info.

>>7404596
Ah sorry.

These are the only pictures I have at the moment.
Last time I measured my body it was
34-25-37

>>7404603
As long as you wear stuff with a defined waist, I think you'll be okay. You look a little top-heavy, but definitely not fat, so avoid empire waists and fully-shirred bodices, and make sure things are fitted properly through the waist.

>>7404610
I think she could do empire, but she'd have to be careful about the fit or it might look like a sack of potatoes on her. Definitely avoid full shirring.

>>7404618
>>7404610
Thanks for the advice, I'm always paranoid with looking frumpy in clothes, even if they are the smallest size which I am. it looks like with lolita it is easy to make that mistake.

So this is driving me sort of insane. I recently won this OP in auction (in a wine/burgundy color). Google translate tells me this is the Mallory OP, but I can't find it on either hellolace or lolibray. Can anyone help me ID this dress or confirm this is indeed called the "Mallory OP"? Thanks in advance.

Does anyone know the mbok and y!japan IDs of prominent SS?
I want to know if I'm stuck in a bidding war with another foreigner.
I know Japonica uses "sandwich" and at least one other ID on Mbok, but I don't know about Chibi, TP, etc.

>>7404969
Japonica also uses 'helloworld*'. Japamart uses 'japama_777'. Don't know about anyone else.

>>7404969
>I know Japonica uses "sandwich"
Oh wow, looks like I was just bidding against another foreigner. If you're here, Japonica anon, good luck on the next one.

>>7404960
http://www.closetchildonlineshop.com/product/37894
Confirmed. 'Mallory Dress (Victorian Maiden)'

>>7404984

Thank you!

>>7404969
Whoever it is, I will destroy you for this dress. My wallet is fully activated.

>>7404969
I think fromjapan ususes some starting with froja

>>7404969

Last three times I won with fromjapan, it was fro, buy, and fro respectively on y!japan.

Has anyone ordered from Clobba before? How long does it normally take them to respond to the initial inquiry? I sent them an email last Thursday to see if there were still reservations available for Lost in Sea OP long and I still haven't gotten a response.

>Moi Meme Moitie Gothic Arch Print $1000
>MMM petticoat $200

>>7404404
In the biggest round hatboxes from Hobby Lobby. In the corner of my bedroom, I have a stack of different size hatboxes to hold things that don't fit well elsewhere.

>>7404603
You are so cute omg.

>>7405194
you can't even really see her?

>>7405194
Obvious self post. Pictures have no face and are potato quality. How can even tell?

>>7404473
no reason to get bent about it unless you regret selling it.

>>7405209
>>7405203
they probably mean she has a cute body

Out of curiosity, what kind of topics would you like to see covered at an advanced level lolita panel. This would be assuming that your general audience knows what not to wear, what to wear, and where to buy things. (Though I'll probably get those kind of questions in the Q/A portion)

Topics I'd like to cover would be coordination tips (how to go from basic to interesting), posing, what's trending at the moment, a bit about expanding into various styles, and touching on dressing for your body type. Any other suggestions on things you'd like to see?

>>7405209
The rabbits, Shin Chan, their body, and their outfits are pretty cute, anon.

>>7405427
I honestly don't think panels are that necessary or interesting when it becomes something above beginner, really. At that point most of the people attending and the panelists would be at about the same level of knowledge, and it becomes fodder for discussion, not a panel (panelists presenting to audience).

I think the only subjects that would be interesting for panels to lolitas at a higher level would be ones that are extremely specific, such as a panel discussing historically relevant information to lolita, or a craft relevant to lolita, like the panels Frill etc have tried to do. But as a general panel, I don't think it works.

>>7404510
do you need a shopping service to order from tokyo bopper?

>>7405624
No, you can order through their overseas store. Just go to any of their listings on the Japanese site and it'll be on the bottom right.
However, it would likely be cheaper to order via an SS, at least if you're in the US, as the international store adds $30+ to the cost of shoes (remnant from when the yen was doing better, probably).

>>7405427
I think talking about the community, online and irl could be interesting. Also history, the way the public sees it, etc

>>7405057
I ordered from them in late Jan. It took them about three/four business days for them to get back to me. I don't think that they count Sat or Sun as business days. When you say "last Thurs," do you mean the 27th?

How do I wash stains out of light colored velvet?

I have no idea what the fuck happened. Today I pulled my light pink velvet skirt out of the closet and its covered in light yellow stains and I'm shocked.

lesser known second hand shops? though i'm guessing a lot of the tiny ones get kept a secret, but i'd like to at least find a few not listed on hellolace if anyone is willing to share

>>7405719
Yes, the 27th. I see, hopefully they get back to me before reservation closes.I'm pretty worried about it.

>>7405753

usually when people have a good secondhand shop they don't share

>>7405774
Might want to email Clobba again he says in the contact info section if he doesn't respond in 24 hrs to email him again

>>7405427
>>7405561
There was a panel at Sakura-con where we had a couple of cute things that weren't experience specific.
Played "Guess Which is Brand and Which is Offbrand/Homesewn"
And a little project runway thing where we were split in groups, given some craft supplies, and we had to make an accessory really quick and model it down a runway. It was fun.

The idea of the history of lolita sounds nice, since it would be interesting for outsiders and probably some new information for the experienced. If it was specific, well researched, in depth, and used every minute wisely.
It's a rather large topic though, to fit it all in the timeframe. I think a lot of panel makers try to tackle too big of a topic, and end up only having enough time for wikipedia-tier overview.

On another note, I think it would be neat if the overhead would have a slideshow of pictures running while everyone is getting settled. Bonus points for information underneath naming the substyle, brand/s, region, and year.

Can somesome explain to me how to order from tokyoalice? I think I did something terribly worng, but I don't know what exactly, so here is a detailed explanation of what steps I took:
I tried to follow their overseas instructions and clicked on the link to the english rakuten store, then I registered and made an account and logged in. When I click on "women's clothing" it show up 0 zero results. The same thing when I enter a brand in the search bar. It only shows some items from the latest update, but not everything either. The item I wanted to purchase wasn't there.
Then I changed my strategy and clicked on a random item of the update section and figured out how I have to change the item url in order to get to the item that I want. I simply have to copy the number code from the japanese site and replace it with the code from the english site - et violà, there it was.
When I clicked on the cart button, a message popped up saying something like "we are sorry the site doesn't serve overseas, please contact the seller for further information". I ignored the message and clicked "ok". For the next step I had to confirm my shipping address, and then I came to the payment instructions where I had to chose between credit card and bank transfer. This is where I gave up because I only have paypal. Don't they accept paypal payments for real or did I make something horribly wrong?
Someone help please, i don't want this to happen again in the future.
>tfw the item is sold out now, it was super rare and you will probably never see it for sale again

>>7406460
Nevermind that this has been posted about like 100 times the past few days.

http://www.rakuten.co.jp/tokyoalice/

There is a button on the left side. It's in English. Pic related. Click it. Another English page appears with instructions on how to order.
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/tokyoalice/c/0000000132/

Not rocket fucking science.

>>7406470

Still doesn't explain why the global store doesn't show anything, they have 0 items.

>>7406477
It's possible they just closed the global site since you can order internationally from their JP rakuten anyway. Does it even fucking matter? Order from where you see the item!

On the topic of Rakuten, is there even a way to filter out the sold out shizz?

>>7406483
Not sure if this applies to all of Rakuten, but there is a checkbox on Tokyo Alice you can check: 在庫あり (in stock). I did this on a PC; may not be applicable to mobile use.

>>7406470
>http://item.rakuten.co.jp/tokyoalice/c/0000000132/
thank you but this is what I did anon. And pic related are their English instructions.
They direct me to the following link:
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/tokyoalice/
And then everything happens as described earlier. Maybe I'm just stupid, but it just doesn't work for me.

>>7406490
It's honestly easier to just use mail order if the item's not on their front page and take your chances.

>>7406490
Underneath that it says that you can also order by email. That seems to be the way to do it, I think the cart system is just outdated and doesn't work anymore. I don't think you can use Paypal unless you order by email anyway.

I noticed that their site was being weird before, the order of the items in each brand kept changing for me when I clicked on the next page. An item that I wanted sold out, went back in stock and then sold out again. I was pretty peeved.

>>7406501
ah I see, too bad. I tried mail order right after I gave up with ordering from the website. The item sold out about half an hour afterwards and I haven't received a reply from them yet, so guess it's a lost case. Next time I will try a shopping service.

So I have a bit of a problem. I ordered a skirt from someone on egl a month ago, it got shipped out about 2.5 weeks ago and it still hasn't arrived over to me. They have 96 positive feedback 0 neutral or negative, so I'm sure they're not scamming me, but I'm getting worried that it got lost or something because I didn't get tracking for it because it would have been way more expensive. I'm wondering what I should do from here, since I'm sure they're not scamming, but I don't have the skirt and I want my money. I also know it's just the skirt that's lost since I've gotten other things in the mail that I've ordered long after the skirt.

http://egl-comm-sales.livejournal.com/22940803.html?nojs=1

$1000 for BxW Gothic Arch Gate JSK? Seriously?

I've seen Iron Gate go for that much so that one seems about right

>>7406622
Contact the seller and talk to them about it before you do anything.
Then, if it's domestic, maybe file a claim once you get near the 45 day deadline if the seller won't/can't do anything.
If it was an international transaction, shipping can take a damn long time. I recently bought a bag and had my tracking stop working for 3 weeks, making me think the package had been lost. However, it came just the other day, making its total transit time over 5 weeks; so really, 2.5 weeks isn't a very long time. Not to mention, paypal covers you for 180 days if it's international, at least if you're in the US.

>>7406622
You didn't pay for tracking so if it got lost it is YOUR FUCKING FAULT. No one gives a flying fuck if you want your money. You cheaped out and didn't get tracking so if it's gone you have to deal with it.

>>7406625
Although we all know that Tokyo Alice overprices, the BxW Gothic Arch JSK are priced for 80000 yen+ there. I think it's the second popular Moitie print. $1000 is really pushing it, though.

>>7406622
Agreeing with and adding to what >>7406629 said, tracking really is the only way to protect yourself and you should always get it.
If the item is too expensive with it, then you either shouldn't be buying it or you should be totally open to the possibility that it and your money will be lost.
I hope the seller forced you to pay with gift, as this sort of buyer behaviour has really been irking me lately.

>>7406629

Fucking this. If you didn't pay for the tracking/insurance necessary to file a claim with the postal service for lost/damage, that's you're problem. Yeah, it sucks to lose money, but why should the seller have to be the one and not you?

If you're the buyer: find out what you need in terms of tracking/insurance that would cover you for loss or damage, and fucking pay for it. I know some sellers say no tracking/insurance because it's expensive, but insist that you will pay for it. Any reasonable seller will do it. If they're been anal and refusing to include it even if you're paying, that's a different matter entirely. If you won't pay to cover the package, take the hit. Don't take out your own cheapness on the seller.

If you're the seller: Find out what shit you need to cover you arse in the event of loss/damage, and fucking insist on it. This is especially important with international packages, which are of a greater risk of getting lost or damaged. If you send your £300 Angelic Pretty OP across the globe without any coverage, you're a fucking retard.

>>7406657

Fuck, that was written dreadfully. Apologies.

where can I find a nice petticoat besides taobao? is brand my only other option?

>>7406657
>>7406651
>>7406629
It has basic insurance but it has no tracking, so don't assume that I was being a complete idiot. I didn't think that the tracking would be that important because it's already insured and it was the cheaper, faster option and I needed it to arrive before I went on a trip.

>>7406676
The snowfield also makes nice petticoats, and some malco modes can work, depending on the style of the dress.

>>7406686
Then use the insurance and don't file a claim asking for your money; if the insurance doesn't cover the full amount, that's still on you.

I know this probably won't make sense, but I wish AP resembled Imai Kira drawings more. The skirts look a tad longer and fuller and the waistline of the bodice seems like it isn't quite so high. Could be my imagination, though. As of right now, most AP dresses cut me off in an awkward place at the waist.

>>7406702
Probably because of our height, any more circumference for daily wear and it'd be silly.

I also prefer the Imai Kira looks but then again a petti that size is even more cumbersome than our IRL standard. Theres a reason why that super poofier dresses are only ever worn by smaller and smaller girls, coz with our adult height ranges we'd be more clownishly bumping into doorframes y'know

>>7406486
Thank you so much anon, this is exactly what I needed!
>(I dont know why Google translate wont trans all my pages for me anymore)

I need help with shoes for a coord. The dress I have has gold accents, so I'm using a gold bag and planning on gold shoes. However, due to my massive feet and time constraints I can only really get normalfag shoes from ebay/amazon etc, would these heels be ok or no?

tl;dr can I use these shoes in a lolita coord?

>>7402473
What dress is this..? So gorgeous

>>7406780
King of Lolita by Baroque.

>>7406780
nvm, already found it

>>7406693 Thank you!

>>7406790
oops, saw after finding it, thank you anyway

>>7406790
it's Kingdom, though.

>>7404083
>>7404088
Steam if you have a little steamer. Steam then wash or vice versa (but steaming beforehand will help alot)

--Sock Shop Anon

Excuse any beginner stupidity but I've fell in love with Lief's Sacred Night jsk and I have no idea where to look for it. I read it was a limited edition so I suppose it's not very easy to find? Where could I look for it?
Also, what price would be acceptable to pay for it? I know it's around 200$ but since I don't know exactly how hard to find or how wanted is this dress, I'm not sure if I still should expect to find it for that price or be ready to give up.
Thank you very much in advance

>>7406956
You have to buy almost all lolita items secondhand, and if you don't know that, I have no clue how the fuck you found /cgl/.

>>7406956
It's very difficult to find. It was part of a limited release from a small indie brand, which was also botched and quite a number of people didn't get their orders (so I'm assuming that means less dresses than were planned). People that bought it tend to want to keep hold of it. I've seen it come up for sale a handful of times, and each time it gets snapped up really fast. However, that being said, it does come up for sale so if you're quick and keep an eye out, you may be able to get your hands on it.

>>7406963
I do know that. I just don't know which websites for secondhand items should I be looking for and that are reliable, since I own absolutely nothing lolita and I'm looking forward to start. No need to be rude.

>>7406969
I see, thank you very much! I was expecting it to be hard to find but I wasn't aware there had been problems with the orders. I'll try looking for it, thank you again.

>>7406956

I bought mine for $400 but I've seen it go for more, before I bought it for $400 I lost a bid for it for $500 so it's a popular dress and that's the most popular colorway, look for it in summer months when people clean out their closet

>>7406977
Oh, that's quite a lot, I suppose I'll have to give it up, at least for the time being. I'll be on the lookout for it around summer though, thank you very much for the help!

>>7405719
>>7405817
I just got a response this morning so all is well. I'm so fucking excited for this dress, gaiz.

>>7406460
Honestly next time use a forwarding service, that way you are guaranteed the item as soon as you finish the checkout, rather than wait for a SS to respond or for the company to get your emailed order.

Am I the only one who has tons of ideas for designs but can't sew? I spent most of my morning thinking of summery, sundress-y jsks, OPs and skirts in soft, muted pastels with a tropical sunset-inspired color palette. Pale creamsicle orange, peach, pink and soft yellow. They'd be solid colors with lots of little cute details.

But alas. I cannot sew.

Does anybody have a decent tutorial for a bell shaped petticoat ?

I did google it but nothing that looked like it would support my dress showed up.

Does anyone know if the Honey Cake bear felt pin, as seen here >>7402806, was made and sold by one person or made by a number of individuals? I've seen a few different people who own it and have always wondered.

>>7406695
Alright thank you, that's what I was asking. I never said anything about a claim. I just wish people wouldn't jump the gun, I know it's /cgl/ but jeesh.

>>7406702
I agree with you. I love Imai Kira and I'd really love for even some of the designs she makes that aren't AP were real. But even AP's dresses look more beautiful on the drawings. I think it might be how she draws girls as well because they're just so awesome and wear the dresses well. So lithe and innocent but creepy looking.

>>7406973
>No need to be rude.
>thinks that is rude
How the hell did you find /cgl/?

>>7406764
Would you mind posting the coord so I can get a better idea, also sauce on the shoes please?

>>7407307
From memory there's a lolita who takes commissions for matching pins and such (maybe that's why you've seen a lot of them floating around?) However, I have a feeling that that girl or her sister made that particular one in question.

>>7406702
Whered you get that high res photo from? Do you have more? Always on the hunt for nice quality imai kira illustrations.

>>7407432
The dress is BTSSB's Sleeping Beauty Rose Princess JSK in pink, with a gold heart bag, long sleeved white blouse and white lacy tights.

>shoes
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fashion-High-Heels-Buckle-Strap-Court-Shoes-Platform-Mary-Janes-UK-Size-1-8-D079-/351009720381?pt=UK_Women_s_Shoes&var=620252028162&hash=item51b9cf483d

>>7407481
I think that would look very cute, even cuter if you could get pale pink tights to match. Or lacy anklet socks.

>>7407486
Thank you! Honestly I have found this dress a nightmare to coord, I will have a look for some pink tights!

>>7407377
That's a good way to put it. She makes the dresses seem more streamlined and feminine than babydoll-ish and sometimes almost boxy. I love AP but most of their designs look really unflattering on my petite, rectangular frame.

>>7406625
Are you new? Gothic Arch is/was very popular and is one of the most iconic Moitie prints. It's also somewhat rare as it is so old. Moitie fans will pay a lot more too.

>>7406764
No. They look like stripper shoes, and not in the good OTT goth way.

>>7406969
Seriously? It comes up for sale all the time, at least every few months. I think someone's even selling one now but for a crazy amount (4 or 5 hundred)

>>7407227
How does this work? I use SS sometimes but never a forwarding service.

>>7407714
For say tenso, you just check out normally on the japanese site as if you're a domestic buyer, and put tenso's address as your shipping address.

You can't really use this unless the place you're buying from accepts overseas credit cards, though. So for example if they only accept COD, japanese bank transfer etc, you can't use it.

I wanna fuck lolita bitches. Where do I start?

>>7407783

Have lots of money.

>>7407783
1. Be attractive.
2. Don't be unattractive.
3. Have money.
4. Fuck you we're not all shallow bitches, ask one on a date like a normal person.

>>7407783
stop being a creep

Currently planning my first lolita purchase, what do you guys think?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19209444099

>>7408019
yeah that looks like a newbie's first dress

Is it possible to just not be able to look good in wigs? Because I think I have that problem. I don't know if it's because I don't know much about styling wigs, but I've owned 3 and all of them made me look ridiculous. They were all in simple styles, but my head looked massive and I looked crazy. I almost looked as bad as that Mana ita did when she wore a wig. What's wrong with me?

>>7408082
Oops, meant to say the Moitie ita. One of her usernames has Mana in it and she emulates him. Sorry Mana, I love you.

for the girl in the guro thread that wanted to see this dress when it done, it's done, sort of. All i really need to do it install the zipper but i want to try to fix it. I ran out of chiffon towards the end so i don't have as much on the skirt portion as i would like, and then I have too much on the bust which makes me look bigger than I already am so I will probably take some of it off. I will hopefully buy some more soon and make a trim at the bottom because it is rather short and a short over lay thing like I poorly drew on the bottom picture. All that or I will just resew the chiffon over lay on the bodice and remove like a quarter to a third of the red part of the skirt so there will be a bigger chiffon to red part ratio. so However I probably won't get around to this for a long time so I am just posting this now. Sorry for the shitty lightly i have no natural like near any full length mirror and I don't have photoshop on this computer yet. Also I defiantly want a red velvet waist band/belt now.

How do you wash printed tights?

When do you guys think DDC will drop in price? Don't know if I'm willing to dish out $500 on a dress just yet.

>>7408098
By hand, with a bit of gentle soap or shampoo. I usually wash mine inside-out as well. Once I've done that couple times and if I don't think they're too fragile, then by machine in a lingerie bag, cold, delicate cycle.

>>7408082
I find my issue tends to be in one of three areas

A) My hair is badly contained under the wig cap (bulky braids, etc) and causes lumps where there are normally none. Solve by pinning your hair down flatter.

B) The wig cap is too large. Simply take it in. Practice with a shitty wig.

C) Not wearing it quite right. Experiment! Shift it to the left, the right, back, forwards, and once it looks the least awkward, leave. Go do something else, come back in 10 minutes. Look at yourself, and see if its still awkward looking. If so, try again with various fixes. Wigs are a big departure from normal hair, especially since you know it isn't yours and that its fake.

Anyone else scratching their head at that leaving lolita post that's is bragging about '8 YEARS WORTH OF STUFF!' and they literally have 4 main pieces in the post.

And AP star engineer boots for 400 dollars loooooooool

>>7408199
No, link me, that sound hilarious.

>>7408113
hahaha.
settle for your cheap cardboard replica dress or pine forevermore with your lusts unsatisfied, poorfag.

>>7408085
I hate to be a dick anon, but that shape is really unflattering on you

>>7408235
Nah it's fine mang, that's why I am changing the bodice to be a bit more fitting and adding a waist tie, I know it looks really unflattering.

>>7408218
it's the cut text so you'll need to view it from the comm_sales main page to see the cut text

http://egl-comm-sales.livejournal.com/

>SOOOO MANY ACCESSORIES FROM AN 8 YEAR LONG COLLECTOR!

>one pair of cheap handmade wrist cuffs and 2 crappy etsy necklace, a f21 cheap headband, and a chocomint bracelet

>>7408246
top kek.

Fresh from egl:

hello everyone my name is elizabeth, im getting married soon and i kinda need a dress. my problem is i am kind of on a budget and im very picky. im also not having a traditional ceremony, my wedding will be just me and my man in a judges office with his siblings, with a possible multiple receptions afterward so i kind of was looking for something on the shorter side but still dressy? i thought lolita would be perfect but my fiance likes traditional white gowns...im very petite im only five feet high and my soon to be 12 year old little brother in law weighs more than i do so it safe to say i have pretty much no curves, so id like something more fitted on top so i dont look like im five but i think something fun and anime like would be more my style. (even though i usually go for a more classic style.) i had imagined maybe a more mainstream dress with a bit of a classic loli flair maybe corsetted on top with a cupcake skirt and tons of lace so that it could still be worn with lolita/anime style accessories and still look put together and planned out. my fashion idol is marie antoinette and so far i think dior and pnina tornai are my fave designers but way out of my price range. what do you guys think? i can take this down if its annoying but i just didnt know if the power of the egl network could help point me in the right direction?

>>7408113
>>7408222
I'm surprised it's going for that since it had a re-release. I got it then with no expectation. I think I was taking a nap for the first release.
Lesson learned, I'll buy my things I like on the brand release whenever I can. Some won't go up in price later but I'll save in the long run because of those that do. Plus...used clothes are never quite as nice.

>>7408263
Teehee

Sooo I have a package from closetchild (a single jsk) that's been sitting in US Customs since the 22nd.
Should I be worried? I've never had an item sit there for so long.

>>7408358
I don't think it's just you anon, my stuff has been moving VERY slowly for a while now. Where is it sitting, NY, LA...?

>>7408113
>>7408343
I thought it only went for $400 for the OP/JSK?

>>7408375
Chicago. I've been sick the past week and haven't really watched the news, is the weather still bad up there? If so that puts me at ease a bit about the delay.

>>7408387

>>7408246
>>7408199

I really want to comment telling her she must have forgotten most of her sales items.

>>7408343
Second hand price in Japan dropped just before the release of the made to order (I got mine for under retail). People need to stop buying it before it will drop, could be a while.

>>7408524
hahaha. Do it.

could someone please tell me the name of that ancient egypt inspired print..? Or it doesn't exist and I imagined it? I'm so sure I've seen a dress like that but I seriously can't remember where

>>7408358
A package I ordered has been "en route to canada" for a week now
Is it traveling by camel or what??

But I guess if it's happening to a few people must just be a slow moving period for mail...

>>7408669
Juliette et Justine had a sphinx one

Someone list all the brand Lolita tea parties at cons this year. Only one I know about is BABY in Chicago in July.

>>7408689
I looked it up, pretty sure it wasn't that one.. but thank you anyway

>>7408706

I want to know this too. Is there even a rumor about who Rufflecon might get?

I ordered something from AP USA Sunday night but I haven't received any email yet. I've checked my spam, nothing. Normally they send me an email right away. It looks like they took the item off the website after I ordered so I'm not sure if they're behind because of their upcoming sale. Should I go ahead and contact them?

>>7408246
If she's leaving lolita why are a few of the items not for sale?

>>7408734
you can still have a lolita dress and not wear it as lolita just coz you like the design???

>>7408524
DO IT FRILLGET

>>7408728
Just go to your log in page and check the order status
They almost never send me an email

I say so long as your order status says it's processing you don't have an issue

>>7408246
She just turned 18 so she started collecting when she was 10? Okay.

>>7408806
Of course, Claire's accessories are totes loliable!

>>7408822
I actually love their crappy plastic rings. I'm never worried about wrecking them...

>>7408822
They have some decent accessories for more casual wear. Of course they're still way overpriced but I've picked up some decent stuff on sale.

>>7408795
Thanks so much, says it's in transit. Might even get it in time for a meetup.

>>7408199
lololol
there was also a girl trying to sell her used ap garters bloomers for like 120 euros. what in the ever loving fuck!!!

>>7408857
120usd sorry.

>>7408827
their tiaras are cute.

Anyone else seen that girl on FB trying to sell €1000 of Bodyline in one lot? She's insisting on selling it in one lot because she wants it gone ASAP.

Girl, you'll shift that shit a lot faster if you sold the items individually. I don't understand her logic. Her latest marketing plot is that someone could make a 'huge' profit on it.

>>7408411
I know the weather is still bad in NY, I think it's the same in Chicago. I overhear the news when my grandparents watch.

>>7408343
I'm surprised too, I was hoping the prices would deflate after awhile but it's been increasing every time.

>>7408387
Both Japan and Western sites have them listed above 450, so including shipping, ss fees, etc it's around $500.

I really want to complete my carousel collection but I spent that much on pieces like Twinkle Carnival that aren't overly saturated in the market. Bleh guess I'll have to pass on DDC then

>>7408806
That holowed burando was granted to her by some of the dearest loli gods,Asuka and Misako. In order to cement her place among the loli-gods of AP and Baby she was granted a modest gift of brando. To protect such a young loli from the evils of Milanoo and the devious Mr. Yan of the farce burando Bodyline, they sacrificed some of their profits to give safe haven to the innocent. With her enchanted Star engineer boots and rare AatP blouse, she was spared. However, she had clearly turned on them, selling her precious gift and scorning the beauty of lolita. Eight long years have passed, what will become of her and this hollowed burando. The gods will weep, the gods will, weep.

Just found this on youtube under the lolita fashion tag:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuKeN-0Z8Jc

Uneducated girl talks about how the fashion shouldn't be called lolita anymore because the name of the fashion comes from the book.

While I agree lolita should have a secondary name (or new one completely), the fact that she is so uneducated about the origin of the name and decided to make a video without researching further is beyond infuriating.

>>7408944
Just say gosurori. It's not weeb if people don't know that it's not called that for real.

>>7408944
>make video about origin of the name of lolita fashion
>doesn't know the origin of the name of lolita fashion

Sigh.

>>7408946
I don't mean with telling strangers, I mean with actual lolitas calling themselves something different.

>>7408944
>>7408955
I wish in that misako interview they asked what she thought about the name and if it could/should change.

>>7408957
She wouldn't have cared. The stigma that Japan has over pedophilia in general is non existent, let alone them getting in a huff over a book name. The west just has a huge issue with it and even with anything that references mentions or alludes to it.

I'm trying to identify the fur in this picture so I can sell it. Is it mink? It's really beautiful and soft.

>>7409136
It's probably rabbit fur, anon.

>>7409136
I'd say mink. Take it to an antique clothing shop and ask someone there, if you'd like 100% confirmation.
>>7409154
What are you on? That looks literally nothing like rabbit. Weasels and rabbits have completely different fur grains (pic related, it's rabbit.)

>>7409154
>>7409162
Thanks for the advice. I couldn't decide if it's mink or rabbit, but I'll take it to the local antique dealer and see what they say.

>>7409184
I can tell you for sure it's not rabbit.

>>7409600
Confirmed for mink by the antique ladies.
Thanks for that suggestion >>7409162 btw, I would have never thought to ask.
Now pricing it however is going to be another question.

>>7409162
It looks like something I have that's rabbit, which I guess is mink according to >>7409734 My grandma is kind of crazy tho so...

>>7409739
The antique people I spoke with were pretty vehement about it not being rabbit.

>>7409136
That's mink. Pic related.

>>7409751
I have a caplet from my grandmother that she told me was rabbit fur, but it looks 100% like your fur so I'll get it checked out tomorrow.

Lol what the hell is this

Thank you closet of frills for functioning as an ita thread that updates right on my fb feed

>>7410074
Have mercy on that soul....I don't think it's aware.

How can I ensure that I'll have a safe trade? I'm wanting to trade a $500 dress for a different colorway but I don't know how I feel about attaching just a tracking code on the dress. What if the other girl promises to send me on the same day but never does? What if I never get a tracking code?

>>7410467

You can't ensure a 100% safe trade. One way people feel encourages safety is to send each other an equivalent monetary value before the trade, refunding only when both items are received. The problem with that is, what is to stop a scammer just filling a claim and getting her money back, without sending out your dress.

A greater incentive to not scam someone would be if the invoices were sent to each other as gift payments, as you wouldn't be able to file a Paypal claim. The person could just go to their bank and have the transaction reversed, mind you. Sending a gift invoice in itself requires a great deal of trust.

Honestly, the best way you can protect yourself is to do your research on the other person. Don't go with someone with little or no feedback, and make sure the person you're trading with is mature and level-headed.

A thought that's just occurred to me would be to insure your package for the value of the dress, and to insure it's covered in the event of loss (be 100% sure of this, Postal companies love worming their way out of covering losses). That way, should the other person be a scamming bitch, you could hopefully claim the value of your item back. I don't how that'd work with regards to tracking though, should the tracking say it was delivered to the scammer.

I dreamed that I owned the latest AP chocolate print last night and I was so psyched to sell it

I don't like that print at all

>>7411003
Nor do I, looks like gold leaf on a hessian sack.

I've lost two auctions for my dream dress this week and honestly just want to cry. I set an alarm for the one that ended this morning but didn't wake up for it and was outbid by 500 yen. Fuck this.

>>7411003
I had my first lolita related dream last night as well.

But it involved an awesome print with an art nouveau style lionpegasus with a knight riding on it.
It was pretty badass.

Small lolita here, my measurements are
80-67-79 in CM

I have difficulty finding dresses since I'm a newbie and all the dresses I find are too big for me. We're talking approximately 4-6 CM. it's typically in the chest area.
I wanted to ask how much of an issue a few extra CMs are on a dress and if it looks way too stupid and baggy if I buy a dress that had 86 CM bust.

>>7411041
I'm 78-61-76 and I've never had an issue with fit, except for blouses. Just keep an eye out for things with corset lacing and shirring and you should be okay.

>>7408085
That anon that started the guro thread/asked for pics here!

HELL YEAH, I'm glad to see you going on with this. I'm sure it will turn out when you make your fixes to it. I really wish I could sew, so I could even attempt anything like this.

Does anyone know how popular AP's sweetie violet is going to be? And when the release of that is? I- I don't know if I should go for it or not... I'm not even a sweet lolita, but the dark blue colorway looks like it's going to be so cute! I'm not sure if it will be a navy for more saturated color, but I am so excited for it. I don't know if I should wait because I have no experience with sweet though, and heck if I know when it's coming out.

>>7411041
What dresses have you tried on?

My measurements are smaller and I haven't encountered any problems with various brands...

>>7411041
I'm 78-64-hips irrevelant.

Lolita isn't gonna be super tight on you anyway, but OPs tend to be smaller so no problem. Skirts are around 64-66 cms too. As for >>7411044, brand blouses are way too large on me, but old school pieces fit perfectly.

A 86cm bust dress will not look bad on you, it's ok. Corset lacing is your friend. One of my favourite JSK is 89 bust 74 waist max and I can wear it without tightening the corset lacing (althought I'd rather do it).

I have stuff to do but I just can't drag myself away from watching the end of my auction. I mean it's highly unlikely that anyone else is going to bid now but even so this is kind of exciting

>>7410467
>>7410902
Do option 1 and put the tracking code on PayPal. If the other person doesn't do it, you can still file a dispute for the amount. It sucks losing the dress but you'll at least get your money back

>>7410902
>>7411247

And then the other person files a dispute, and gets their money back. Plus your dress. You just end up losing a dress with nothing to show for it. Are you retarded or something? The fuck is the point of sending each other money if they can just get it back anyway. Just don't fucking trade.

What do you guys think of Fanplusfriend?
I'm new lolita and forevertime luker and I love their designs and prices but I don't hear much about them on here.

>>7411347
Really? They get talked about all the time. They're not worth it. At least 80% of their stuff are replicas (although many people don't realize this) and every single piece of theirs has something "off" about it. There are many alternatives like Mbok, Yahoo Auction if you want brand for cheap and Bodyline (I'm a bit iffy about them, but they're okay for some basic stuff and much better than F+F). There are also lots of Taobao brands that are not only better but cheaper.

>>7411347
For the price, you can almost always get something better elsewhere.

>>7411054
I am debating myself about this release too...it looks very cute and AP only finds time once in a while to release chiffon floral prints. Most of the chiffon releases I think do quite well, so I am hoping that people are burned out from melody toys and dreamy girl that this release won't sell out as fast.

>>7408669
Tamie-love did an egyptian style co-ord with Moitie's Silent Moon, but the print is London inspired.

What are the chances of this jacket popping up on the secondhand market for less than retail?
I really, really want it, but I've never spent $400 on a dress, much less a knit jacket. I'd also prefer the black, which sold out long ago.

>>7411428
I need it so bad. The more I think about it, the more I think it's perfect. I don't even think I can afford it right now though!

Can any tall Lolitas help me out? I'm thinking of buying some btssb tights but im not sure they will fit since they're one size.

Does anyone know what height the tights max out at?

>>7411529
My friend is 5'7 with skinnytinylegs (am jealous) and she has had tights by AP and Baby in the past...they always fall down/stretch funny and are just plain not comfortable.

>>7411529
Your height isn't the issue, it's your inseam, shoe size, calf and thigh circumference, and how big your ass is that matters.

>>7411331
But you'd be able to open a dispute yourself. I don't get why you're so angry.

You're essentially buying each other's dresses off with that method and there is a monetary value that's being recorded.

>>7410080

I feel kind of bad she got dogpiled that quickly. I'm the sensitive type so it'd hurt my ego quite a bit, but I'm also the very cautious type. I don't really outfit post, especially to FB.

>>7411720

Looking at the comments, wow some terrible advice there as well.

How tall is the average lolita?
What is considered a tall lolita?

>>7411732
Most lolita models are from 5'2/158cm to 5'5"/165cm. Anything taller is a 'tall lolita', another shorter is a 'short lolita'.

>>7411732
Most lolitas I know are between about 5'3" and 5'7". The tallest lolita I know is 6'1" and she has to have pretty much everything either custom made, or modified from mainstream stores.

>>7411662

Lol, you're retarded.

So what if you send each other money? If the other person is a scammer, they'll keep their dress, your dress and file a dispute to get their money back. What have you got? You can get your money back, but you've still lost your dress and don't have the other persons money to make up the loss. Make sense now idiot?

>>7411737
5'7" is considered very tall for Lolita

>>7411813
If you've sent the dress tracked with confirmed delivery, then they can't file a dispute against you surely?

>>7411815
Idk, I'm 5'7 and when I'm in a group wearing tea parties and no hair pouf or tall bow, I pretty much blend in and don't loom, haha.
My knees often show if I don't wear underskirts though.

>>7411825
Not as described dispute, ship back an empty box.

>>7411840
Has this scam been done several times before?

>>7411815
I guess my comm is just full of amazons, then. I'm not the shortest in the group, but at 5'5", there are at least half a dozen girls still taller than me who wear brand without being scandalously exposed.

Could anyone recommend me a petti for this dress? I recently received this in the mail but the skirt is 65 cm long and I don't own a long enough petti.

Hey guys, I have an alterations question. I have this dress (not my photo but same item) and I don't like the look of the elastic-gathered sleeves. I was thinking of removing the elastic and replacing it with a solid brown band instead, maybe with a little bow on the side instead of the button. Do you think this would look alright? I've never altered brand before but this dress has a low resale value anyway and I didn't pay much for it.
Any design suggestions are welcome too.

>>7411868
I own the skirt, I personally just used an ebay petticoat with a small tutu on top

>>7411813
.... But that goes for any sale then, not just trades.

>>7412028

That's irrelevant. People were saying that sending each other money would make trades safer. It won't.

>>7411815
>>7411736
>>7411737
So would somebody who is 5'6" look out of place at a meet up?

>>7412350
no

I FUCKING MISSED THIS GODDAMN DRESS UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>7412038
Yeah I never really understood the logic there.

"Hey, let's send each other expensive dresses AND money, that'll be better!"

>>7412370
Because if you don't receive the item you can make a claim to get back the money? Even though technically they would both be refunding each other the amount once they receive the trade anyway. I don't know, it's weird.

>>7411490
Where is this from?

>>7412384
Okay wait I'm confused why people would be losing a dress and money because if both people send money/tracking on PayPal, cant they just retaliate back with a claim if the other party opens one?

Situation A
>Person A with Milky Planet wants to trade Person B for Sugary Carnival.
>
>Person A and Person B both send each other $350. Both send tracking.
>
>Person A gets Sugary Carnival. Person B gets Milky Planet.
>
>No money lost. No items lost.

Situation B
>Person A with Milky Planet wants to trade Person B for Sugary Carnival.
>
>Person A and Person B both send each other $350. Person A sends tracking. Person B goes MIA.
>
>Person A opens dispute. PayPal goes in their favor. Person B owes Person A $350.
>
>Person A gets $350 but loses Milky Planet. Person B loses $350 but gains Milky Planet.

Situation C
>Person A with Milky Planet wants to trade Person B for Sugary Carnival.
>
>Person A and Person B both send each other $350. Both send tracking.
>
>Person A gets Sugary Carnival. Person B gets Milky Planet. But Person B opens a dispute, saying that item was not as described, wants their money back. PayPal sides with person B, so Person A must send back Sugary Carnival.
>
>Person A now opens a dispute as well. PayPal sides with Person A. Person B must send back Milky Planet.
>
>Both parties get their dresses back.

Situation D
>Person A with Milky Planet wants to trade Person B for Sugary Carnival.
>
>Person A and Person B both send each other $350. Both send tracking.
>
>Person A gets Sugary Carnival. Person B gets Milky Planet.
>
>Person B opens PayPal dispute and says there was no item in the box. PayPal sides with Person B and requires Person A to send back the $350.
>
>Person A now opens a PayPal dispute saying item not as described/no item in the box. PayPal sides with Person A and requires Person B to send back item/$350.

>>7411010
Wasn't the Rottenberg in red, was it? I was stalking that out of curiosity but couldn't afford to bid on it myself.

>>7412424
What if Person B doesn't send their item AND opens a dispute?
Then person A can open a retaliation claim, but would lose their dress.
While person B would gain the dress and not lose money because the claim would be countered.

Anyone else waiting for this sale?

>>7412433
Is person B sending a tracking code? Because if they don't, there is no way in hell PayPal is going to side with them

SORRY I'M JUST A BYSTANDER and I'm intrigued by the whole trading system as I've never done it before.

>>7412433
wait but can't person a open a dispute because of the dress they never received? so they get the money.

and they would get their own dress back because paypal requires you to send back the item too right?

>>7411347
They used to be 'not so bad, but not great'- basically the gothic/classic Bodyline equivalent. But with the advent of taobao, it's not really worth it anymore.

Still, some of the blouses and skirts I got from them back in the pre-taobao days were pretty decent quality (while others weren't, but not every taobao or Bodyline item is perfect either.)

>>7412436
Going to sound very ignorant but.... where is this from?

>>7412441
As long as nobody sends payment as gift, PayPal will almost always side with the buyer. It's really fucking confusing, but all you're doing is buying and selling with the method above. Makes sense?

If your buyer opens a dispute, well tough shit for them because you can just open one too since YOU are also a buyer.

>>7412493
>tough shit for them because you can just open one too since YOU are also a buyer
i think what >>7412433 is saying is pic related

Conclusion, each party leaves the transaction with the following:
>person A
gains no dress, gains no money
>person B
gains a dress, gains no money

New Thread >>7412706

Does anyone know of anywhere that has decent classic style blouses in brown? I'm trying to match Royal Carousel and all I can find is white, Ivory, or black in classical style. I even looked at more sweet styles and I can find pinks, blues, and yellows, but still no brown.

>>7408669
you're probably thinking of that egypt inspired coord with silent moon

I really love the look of rocking horse shoes, but although I'm not tall, I'm not exactly short either (5'6").

I'm a sweet lolita and I just think adding 3" to my height wouldn't look good with sweet, I would then be 5'9 and it wouldn't look as cutesy if I was that tall (in my opinion)

I'm not trying to offend anyone taller, it's just my own insecurity and concerning myself only, I've always wanted to be shorter... what do you guys think, is 5'6" + 3" with rocking horse shoes too tall for sweet lolita? (I can see it working for other styles, though)

Should I just get over myself and try it out anyway?

>>7413451
I've always liked the idea, but the print isn't egypt at all. It would be like mixing romans and christmas