/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I remember the last time we had this thread, it was interesting enough. Someone posted a link to a guide to get into the business of writing short stories for kindles, does anyone still have it? I lost my job recently and I don't want to sell my panties yet (I admit some anons made that option sound very tempting last time though).

I have a part time job where I'm paid about 12$ an hour but some douches has been taking all the shifts these few weeks. I also get some money from the state and stuff but I was honestly thinking of starting on wig commissions or something when I'm good enough at styling wigs.
So far I'll stick to washing dishes

I'm a student but I work part time at my college's student union as a receptionist. From what I can remember in my local comm, most people work for minimum wage or marginally higher doing retail. There are some exceptions.

I work part-time at a 50's style diner making milkshakes, as well as studying full-time. All my lolita purchases come out of my earnings, because I'd feel strange about using my student loan for something so extravagant and that I can get along without.

I saved up all my rent money before moving out, so my expenses are low and if I save up then I have enough to make a brand purchase every two or three months as well as taobao shopping and looking out for second-hand items. It's working for me so far, I think.

>>7391502
I participate in random studies around my uni - I can get 10-30 per session depending on the length and type. A lot of it is from the business school kids who need survey participants for whatever business proposal they're working on.
Otherwise I just dip into the money my parents give me or sell old pieces when I get sick of them.
>lazy college student w burando, feels good man

Part-time campus dining job. I get a decent amount of hours which is nice, and my workplace is very laid back.

>>7391506
this sounds interesting, anyone have the link?

My grad school stipend is $30k/yr. It's nice.

>>7391502
Semi-related. Has anyone used e-lance or odesk? My friend was telling me about it and I dont think it's a good idea since they most likely have asurplus of writers, but it sounds nice for some money on the side.

I work at a small used book store about five minutes from my apartment. Besides the owner, I'm the only one who works there. It's a pretty relaxed workplace. Plus I can wear Lolita to work.

Professional strip-poker tournaments.

living with my parents.

>>7391862
That sounds so awesome, anon. Pretty jelly now.

Right now I work at a coffee shop about 15 min from my house.
I make barely minimum wage, either work extremely early (4am) or to into ungodly hours at night (11pm) with no inbetween. The job is stressful, physically demanding, the customers are grating and rude, and my coworkers are constantly calling me on my few days off begging me to take their shifts because they're "sick" or have "a family emergency." But if I dare call in sick myself, I'll get a sigh, a grumble, and a passive aggressive comment from my manager before being hung up on.
Shit sucks but it buys me burando. So I guess it'll do for now.

I babysat/nannied for 5 days between semesters (I was working at a university childcare center that as closed over the break) and netted enough money to purchase Melty Royal Chocolate.

Now I have a more lucrative full time job and a budget for lolita.

>>7391922
Sounds like when I had my job as a waitress. Minimum wage jobs suck so hard.

I donate plasma twice a week, for about 60USD weekly. It's boring but I use it as dedicated study time and think how cute my next purchase will be.

>>7391922
I'm fairly certain that this happens to people who become the 'reliable' employees.
Mr. Fiance had that issue when he was working at a rest stop Starbucks

>>7392004
That's on top of my job, I don't make quite enough to pay bills/school and lolita. All my fun money comes from the plasma stuff.

>>7392004
I'm so annoyed that because I was born in the UK and was there between 1980 and 1990, no one in the US (who follows red cross guidelines) will accept my blood/plasma/platelets for donation. I've given blood for studies, but the Red Cross won't take it for fear of mad cow or whatever.

>>7392004
You don't donate your plasma. You sell it. It's not a donation if you profit from it.

>>7392004
My god, will they take my Canadian plasma if I cross the border?

>>7392004
I need to do this!

>>7392004
This makes me feel slightly ill. It's about as far from the luxury aspect of this hobby as you can get.
I opened this topic just from curiosity.
Big mistake.

I'm a designer and am currently working primarily as a user experience/user interface designer for a company that builds apps and websites.

I'm an overworked and underpaid babysitter with three other jobs that fund my Lolita. I tutor maths (because you know... math is hard and junk), I make costumes for me and my clients, and I sell Javita weight loss coffee and tea.

Still poor because it's mostly commission work but I stay home and can normally purchase about once every two months.

>>7392009
Yeah, once they know you'll always be there, they shit all over you.

I work at Arby's, and I always take other's shifts, but I just got bitched the fuck out for calling off (I found someone to cover my shift, she agreed to take it the night before, and then didn't fucking show up) because I had the stomach flu.

God fucking forbid I need a day off when I'm taking 3-10 extra hours almost every week.

Plus the managers start being cunts all the time and not giving me hours in the first place because they figure I'll just take someone else's anyway.

I also work with my ex best friend, which makes things interesting. She tried to give me shit in a group facebook chat for calling off work, seeming proud that she had gone in to work when SHE was throwing up, and telling me that THIS is why I don't get hours, despite the fact that I've only called in sick 3 times in the 2 years that I've worked there.

I just called her a stupid cunt, because it's not only stupid and dangerous to go in to work sick like that (you could spread it to both staff AND customers, as she's often making the food) but it's also illegal, because it's knowingly endangering the health of others.

I fucking hate my job.

Plus all the people I work with are so fucking fake. Everyone talks shit on everyone, and not even the general manager seems capable of acting professionally unless the big bossman is around.

>>7393104
Oh, right, and I got sick in the first place because the fucking assistant manager came in sick.

It's been going around the place, but jesus fucking christ, if you're sick stay the fuck home. Or at least don't bitch when all the other employees are decent and call off because you're stupid ass got us all sick.

>>7393033
Why does it make you feel ill? there are plenty of other people who go donate plasma for money for far worse.

>>7392004
I considered this and I read in another thread that you have those track marks in your cubital area like a druggie? Also, I'm guessing those needles hurt like a bitch.

>>7393033
What? You didn't open this topic, I did. WTF?

>>7391790
Would also really appreciate this link if anyone has it.

>>7394020
That person probably meant they opened the thread, not started it.

Currently living off inheritance while I try to find a job. I've got quite a bit, so I'm not worried, but I feel guilty spending too much of it on cosplay supplies. I've gotten so many rejections, though, and it sucks not having a job and then feeling guilty about doing one of the things that makes me feel better.

>>7393174
or do far worse things for lolita/cosplay funding

>>7393179
Doesn't really hurt, and there's just small dots on my inner elbow. You just really can't move and I try to minimize stress on my arm by basically not using it after donation and pampering the shit out of my arm.
I also looked it up because innocent dweeb and I've never had that happen to my arm.

>>7392676
Fair enough, I consider it donating to science with compensation, considering it takes up a chunk of my life.

>>7393033
I suppose it isn't really luxurious, but its how poorfag me buys the dresses. Honestly, its helping multiple fronts. Doesn't take anything out of my wallet, furthers scientific research or whatever they do with the stuff, and I get cute clothes. Lolita for science!

>>7394181
Less for science more for helping people/"saving lives," but yeah, donating blood/plasma is pretty good all around.
I don't see why it would be any more antithetical to the "luxury" of the fashion than the part time jobs that many anons seem to work, such as food service.

I went to Carnegie Mellon and for a pretty good deal for financial aid, but I still have about $80k to pay back, about a quarter of which my parents will shoulder for me. I'm currently making good money as a systems analyst while living at home, but I'm focusing on paying CMU, so all my money for loli stuff comes from tutoring computer science kids (none of whom seem to be able to look up tutorials on youtube) via the web. Kind of boring, I know.

On a more interesting note, I have a LARPer friend who pays for his larp stuff by writing romance novels.

I work one, soon two jobs. My main job is under the table for 8/hourly.
I go to school full time and i'm going to be doing almost 70 hour weeks.
I still live at home since I recently turned 18 and fucked up school pretty bad for several years.
I would totally sell my panties if I could do it some way without posting pictures of myself. I'm also considering selling plasma.
>$570 in pocket right now
>literally neurotic about having money to a unhealthy extent
I buy new dresses and go to cons almost monthly. I sew so my cosplay stuff is just material expenses and I know how to use taobao. Soon I'll be buying myself a vehicle, I'm apartment hunting and I want to start paying my own phone bill so that'll suck.
i also just put down the down-payment on my fursuit.
I don't know how to relax and I have expensive hobbies so it's all cool though.
I want to buy a camera too before con season really goes into full swing but I was a 7D i'm pretty sure and that's an investment.

>>7394194
That's my line of thinking, we can't all be demure florists or cafe owners (although, I am wanting to eventually get a job with a nearby floral shop, so cute).

>>7394300
Mmm, plasma. Few things you should know before you go into a donation center.

1) When they ask if you've had any tattoos or piercings in the past year tell them no- you got them when you were a toddler.
2) Tell them you're a virgin. It makes the process go by faster.
3) Try to find a CSL plasma center since they pay the highest rates out of any of the other companies.
4) Wear heavy clothing. The more you weigh the more they pay. Bare the fatty logo with pride.
5) Bring something for entertainment. I, personally, bring my Nintendo 3DS; I've successfully bred many perfect IV Pogeymon whilst having saline pumped into my arms.

Other than that it's an easy $60 a week for just a few hours of your time. I don't know if they changed the starter rates but I got paid $50 each time I went in for my first five visits.

pic unrelated

>>7394334
Except if you have any STDs or could possibly have them, don't tell them you're a virgin.

If you know you're clean go for it, but don't risk passing it to others.

>>7394334
>All this shitty information
I hope you get a contaminated blood transfusion.

>>7394334
>tattoos
>got them when you were a toddler

Ohohoh you gave me a giggle.

>>7394355
You really want me to spread the disease I would get from a contaminated blood transfusion to other people?

>>7394378
>tattoos or piercings
>piercings
selective reading

>>7394334
>4) Wear heavy clothing. The more you weigh the more they pay. Bare the fatty logo with pride.

Is this for real? Goddammit. Any idea what the minimum rate is?

>>7394480
Totally for real. I know the minimum pay for someone's first five sessions was $35 each time when I was beginning to donate, so... yeah. Skinny girls get gypped hard by plasma donation centers.

Also, make sure you bring in your social security card and a piece of mail from your current mailing address. And if you live more than fifty miles away from said donation center lie to the clerk and tell them that it's between forty-to-fifty miles; they don't get paid enough to double check your word.

>>7394334
>TheLonelyBeater
priceless

Also, what if I've been to asia? Can I still donate?

>>7394480
I'm a small girl, and iirc, the first time they would give 40USD, but after that it dropped to 15 or maybe 20 per session.

>>7394791
But those rates definitely vary from place to place, that was just the only center I could get to reliably. Check around.

Is there something wrong with me that I find selling plasma more detestable than camming? No offense to anyone who does either for extra money, but somehow I think I'd feel like more of a farm animal selling my plasma than if I were to make money selling nudes.

>>7394826
I mean, they're both personal choices on your own body. I feel like the aversion to camming is more socially driven, and an aversion to having something pumped from your body to be more psychological/biological, you know? But to *detest* it...eh, I don't get it, but whatever.

>>7393078
>Javita weight loss coffee and tea.
does shit like that really work? are you successful selling it?

>>7394770
Yep. I admitted (stupidly) that I've been to some of the seedier parts of Asia and they still let me donate. If you're unsure about it though, you can always lie and say you've never left the country; they have to take your word at face value.

>>7393104
>I just called her a stupid cunt, because it's not only stupid and dangerous to go in to work sick like that (you could spread it to both staff AND customers, as she's often making the food) but it's also illegal, because it's knowingly endangering the health of others.
fuck, this. I called in sick a few weeks ago after getting sick and when I worked next I got a lecture from the manager that I should have powered through it and come in anyway. like bitch, this restaurant has almost 90 employees, why does it matter if I miss my fucking three hour shift?
fuck fast food.

>>7394334
>tfw I have zero fear of needles, need the cash, am 100% clean and would gladly do it...but don't weigh enough and likely never will
dammit.

>>7394826
With the plasma, at least it could help improve someone else's life, unlike camwhoring. I don't particularly care what anyone else does, but that would be my chief reason for choosing between the two.

>inb4 porn addicts

>>7394826
I think its like >>7394835 said, just preference.

Personally I don't like exhibitionism, so it wouldn't be for me to sell pictures of myself. However I have no problem giving blood because I know I'll just make more of it if I eat an orange.

>>7394300
>i also just put down the down-payment on my fursuit.
what

>>7394869
H-how much do you w-weigh?

>>7394499

>tfw I just want to make some easy money
>look up plasma donation centres
>you need to be at least 60 kg

Fuck me I don't even qualify.

And that's before I realised I think in the EU you aren't even supposed to sell anyways.

>>7394857
I can tell you from personal experience that it does. I've lost a pant size since November by just drinking coffee and my stupid arm fat is going away too. I was laid up for a while in August with a broken leg and I'm still having some physical therapy with getting back my range of motion.
http://www.myjavita.com/Sarahscoffeeshop

If you were interested this is the website with information. oh and i've gotten my initial investment back if that's what you were asking. The perks are pretty good too, I'm two levels away from gaining a company car bonus so... yeah.

>>7394426
they check the blood before they give it to someone you epic fucking dunce. No one can be SURE they don't have STDs.

In Canada the blood bank refuses to waste their time checking my dirty fag blood for the STDs I obviously already have anyways, so I've never donated. That and I will never weigh enough ever.

>>7394949
oops wrong reply. sorry

>>7394875
I bought a mascot suit of my OC that is an anthropomorphic animal. It was 2200 and im very excited.

>>7394949
> my dirty fag blood
Why did this statement turn me on so much?

Scenarios of your bitchy voice and facial expressions are running through my head as you say this and it's delicious.

I think I need help.

>>7394884
around 95lbs - I'm just a tiny person.
my mom always tells me this story about how she gave blood around my age...the standard then was 100lbs, she was 99 and they said "close enough"...and then she passed out afterward.

>polite sage

I work at a call center and make about 3000 dollars a month. Waste of my college education but it pays my bills and have at least $1000 for Lolita each month.

>>7394893
60kg?! What, even if you're short? I'm short and about 50kg (and trying to get down to 46), it's a completely healthy weight for my height...

You do know plasma doesn't improve anyone's life, right?

It saves them.

>>7395505
How often do they hire? I am in need of this kind of job.

>>7394052
No, no, that's what I meant. That I started this thread, curious to know how other lolitas get their money. I remember the topic going well last time.

>>7391506
Thirding the request for this link!

In the United States Air Force, make about 3k a month. Food and housing are covered and I don't have a car at the moment so my bills consist of cellphone and any subscriptions I might have. Everything else is play money.

minimum wage part time job, in university, expenses covered by parents.

>>7395505
im looking for something like this, how did you get the job

>>7395110
It's entirely true, even if I somehow put on 15 Kgs, I'm contaminated.

Also, it sounds like the only help you need is a good old fashioned humiliation.

I cut shit

I'm a subsitute teacher for a childcare facility. It pays pretty well, hours are plentiful. 13.00 starting pay (depening on the position). as far as I know, centers are always looking, but I fear reccomending this job because people who don't seem to even be interested in children want me to give them links. Then they apply, I'm betting they fuck up the "this is where we tell if you like kids" section.

used to do retail.

>>7396919
I knew a girl who was hired at a childcare place. She hated children but needed the job...slapped a four year old child across the face when she got frustrated. It was horrible to hear about. Last I heard the parents of the child were going to take legal action.

>>7396945
Fuck this world.

Can't even discipline little shits anymore because muh special childrenz.

>>7391502
sugar daddy

>>7396971
how'd you meet him? :O

>>7396945
Wow...if I ever see that shit, id bury my giant meaty claws into their face. I get the frustration, I have a kid who likes to act out on purpose; there's a whole room of them.
They don't respond to anger- at all. They'll smile and keep doing whatever. It takes different approaches depending on the kid. Seriously, what I hate is parent visits and all they want to do is talk about their kid. I get they want to chat but shitdamn, there's like 6 to 10 other kids in the classroom. I don't have time to talk about your kids poop schedule and whther or not I think their behavior is "omgso diffrnt today, I wonder if its because..." bullshit.

Plasma.

Camgirl, and thinking about doing sugardaddy on the side.

>>7397301

What site do you use? I want to start camming but I have no idea which sites are legit and which ones get the most revenue.

>>7397305
mfc pays out pretty well so I use that and the peeps arent vicious

>>7397311

I'm looking at the site now. How do you make people give you money? And how much do you generally make from this in a week?

>>7397316
I typically just hang out in my underwear talking to people. If I get more than my "goal" in a night I'll do a strip-tease and in a week I'll make anywhere from 300-500 (on a bad week). It really depends. Sometimes you really gotta work the crowds but dont work em too hard because then you get free loaders

I just moved to a different city for uni so I currently don't have a job but I have worked mainly retail aswell as one hospitality and one administration/tele communications jobs for burando. I'm not sure how I will afford many lolita items this year as I'm a broke uni student but I am looking forward to tax return and hopefully I'll pick up some casual work.

College student here
sell my panties, starting to sell other items, thinking about doing GFE's.
I personally use ebanned.

I would cam, but I barely have time to take pics for people, let alone whole videos.

>>7397325
pantyseller here, wait, so you literally just sit in your underwear and..chat? about what?

>>7397383
>>7397381
Where do you two sell your panties? I know reddit has a sub for it, but I didn't think it was that commonplace.

>>7397381
where do you sell your panties?

I really want to get into this, I'm poor as shit and need some extra money.

Explain to me why you fuckers, I don't know, can't just get a job?

I work part time at pep boys and make $15/hr. This pays for insurance, phone, school, gas, and food, and I still have $1500 extra leftover. I don't really cosplay though, but I'm sure $1500 would be enough for like two good costumes easily.

Fuck that though, I'm buying a bike and new rims and tires. Maybe I'll cosplay as someone shirtless since I'm sexy and I know it. That shit shouldn't be more than like $100 for some pants and a wig.

>>7397404
>I have different hobbies than you
congratulations.

>>7397385
>>7397387
I don't sell my panties anymore because it was such a fucking hassle, but if you are a young and fairy attractive woman my advice is this:
Find a site that isn't extremely popular, and the demand for your looks will be higher and it will be easier to sell. I sold each pair for around $30 to $50, simply because I wasn't another old housewife with a c-section scar. I'm sure if I was using one of the top sites, or Reddit, I couldn't ask for nearly as much because I'm rather plain looking.

>>7397387
>>7397385

ebanned.net

reddit has an okay reputation, new girls have a hard time there, and you put a lot more work in it than you do ebanned or usedpantybank.
Ebanned also is auction, so you typically get paid more per pair if more than one person wants them.
protip-thongs are the most popular.

>>7397404

>mfw I'm a full time waitress
>mfw that still doesn't cut it for all the brand I want

Get off your high horse, anon. I have a job and I still need extra money to fund my hobbies. If all I have to do is sit in my underwear and chat with a couple of neckbeards to get that dosh, you'd better damn well believe I'm going to do it.

>>7397415
also, to contintue, you have so many new girls on reddit, nobody will pay 30+ unless their top tier girls, because you have people in there offering 20-25 and that's the norm now for that site.

>>7397404
I /have/ a job, but I get paid $5.15/hr after taxes, and I only get 10-15 hours a week because my managers are cunts. I live in a rural area, and going anywhere more than 15 miles away to work for minimum wage would negate the money I was getting with the cost of gas to go the fuck to work. There's nowhere else hiring near me, and I don't really have anything to offer a company that pays more than minimum wage.

I've been looking for a better option for months, but there isn't anything. I hate my job more than anything and all the useless pieces of shit I work with, aside from maybe 3 people there, who are all also looking for other work.

>>7397407
I think you missed the point.

Why can't you just get a job? There's no way your cosplay costs as much as someone who throws it all into their car.

The main point here is: just get a job and then you could afford to pay for your hobbies like me. I could probably afford to cosplay like a pro even with my money leftover after spending it on all that shit. That's because I have a nice steady source of income and I work hard for it.

>>7397420
>>7397415
Yeah, I knew reddit was being flooded, so I was wondering what the alternatives were. Thanks for the advice!

>>7397417
>>mfw I'm a full time waitress
Quit being a bad waitress then. Even waitresses in low end restaurants can bring home $80 a night. We're talking eat n' park here. Move up to mid grade and we're looking at $120 cash every night.

Waitresses in high end restaurants easily take home $200 a night. Bartenders probably the same $200 a night.

>>7397425

If I worked nights, sure .... but every one wants to work night shifts because thats where the money is at so everyone whose been there longer than me has dibs. I get stuck working primarily lunch shifts with old people and annoying children. I'm a damn good waitress though so you can go ahead and drop your holier than thou attitude now.

>>7397437
Work weekends then. If you can't get the shift you want, just go looking for another job and tell them you can't work mornings due to existing obligations (school, other job, you help the homeless).

Also, the most common misconception waitresses have is what their job is. You're also a salesman. Don't just do whatever the customer wants, try selling them the $18 steak over the $10 chicken fingers. Recommend that shit and sound like a commercial and tell them you have your best chef on right now and this would be the time to try the steak if he never has.

Also, if you get nights, sell the fuck out of drinks. It's easier to do that with the regulars who ask for you though. Have those guys skip their after dinner trip to the bar and get all the drinking done at the table instead.

Final secret tip: Kneel down at the table. For some reason waitresses don't do this, but I've always noticed that some male waiters do. It just makes everything feels personal and not like you're towering above them.

Source: I worked as a bus boy at a 5 star restaurant and as a waiter at a cheaper local joint for two years. Made bank, but I hated working until 12:00pm when I had school at 8:00am.

Fuck your shit, I'm the motherfucking holy spirit.

This might not be everyone's cup of tea, but I recently did a month long aged care course that was 1.6k with the government paying back 1000 of that. Now I get paid $3600 a month. But like I said, cleaning old people and their shit isn't everyone's ideal job.

I'm also a full time uni student so it also has flexible hours. Just saying.

>>7392000
>>7391922
>>7391514

Be thankful you live in a first world country; where I live the minimum wage is $5 a DAY (yes, a day, 12 hours or more)

>>7397499
I wish so badly that I could stomach this for the money, but shit is gross, and old people scare me. Ugh.

>>7397462
Not that anon but even if I agree with the kneeling at the table thing from personal experiences in other cafes my boss has a proper shit fit if I ever do this.
Sometimes I feel chefs are just there to give waitresses a hard time, constantly calling me out for things other people are meant to do whilst I'm sweet talking the customers, or just coming over to harass me when 'customers take too long to order.' And apparantly it's my fault.
Shit, get back in the kitchen and make some food.

>>7397776
The feelings are strong with this. I got reported for being a lazy asshat and doing nothing when I was running around doing everyone else's job. I guess they had a right to since I was neglecting my own duties but that's because other waitresses would wait for the food to go cold before delivering it. Then when I would deliver it so it wouldn't eventually go cold it would be "anon why aren't you doing your own job!" then if I leave it "anon why are you letting the food go cold!!"

Waitresses just can't win.

>>7397799
Just do your job then and let the other waitresses serve cold food. As long as the customers like you, that's all that matters. Their opinion is more important than your boss's. Don't be such a bitch for everyone, grow some balls, and maybe a dick, and then fuck me.

>>7396318
I have questions
>age/sex
>how long are you in
> was it hard getting in
>do you have a significant other

I'm 23 and tired of being broke, thinking about joining. if i hate it, it's only four years

>>7396952
>discipline
>slapping a kid in the face because you get mad

I know I'm getting baited but fuck off.

>>7397802
But I don't want to fuck you anon...

However, I did quit in the end and about half of the other waitresses followed. I guess the business is going cold ~pun most definitely intentional~

>>7397826
>But I don't want to fuck you anon...
Of course you do, everyone does.

>>7397846
pix then we'll talk

>>7396318
What's your trade/specialisation?

when i was like 16 and no money, no job, etc, i started to looked for some time part jobs, retails stores, etc, i hate that phase so much, then a friend told me about gettin paid for a couple hours of sex, i love to had sex and he was pretty handsome, we have so much in common but he was like 8 years older than me, and well, now i have a pretty unique wardrobe, full of whatever i ever want it when i was 16, now i have a job realationated with my career and also i can move out of my parents house, im pretty happy and i regret nothing.

>>7397972
You're an idiot.

I've worked part time retail,child care and food service since I've turned 18. I've also tried being in a relationship with an older guy that would pay for everything and anything I want and that was cool until he wanted kids and marriage after a couple of months of unprotected daddy/little girl sex and it was honestly more than I could give him becouse I just wanted to go to college and have a career. It wasn't that interesting or fun...we didn't have much to talk about after sex and we barely had anything in commen, it was pretty lonely to tell you the truth.
Going out anywhere was pretty awkward too. His favorite dresses of mine were of the super childish sort like pic related and I have about the body and face of a high school freshman while he clearly looked his age and with me being barely 5 feet tall and him being almost 6'3 we'd get a lot of stares and negative comments in public.
When I told him I can't marry him everything fell apart...
You always go in thinking these kind of relationships are harmless and they can't be more than sex but they really do get personal.
I advise anyone getting into a sugar daddy sort of relationship with someone to make sure that they want it to be impersonal or have multiple girls so that you don't get too close and it really could just be casual sex or company for gifts and money.

College freshmen. I worked as a "massage" girl for a year and raised enough money to open my own spa. Now I don't have to work anymore, have all the time in the world for school and collect $3000-$5000 a week from my spa to spend. I don't buy too much brand though, mostly wear Otome. I'm saving everything else to invest in property soon.

>>7398276
Oh god hahaha, that SD/SB relationship sounds exactly like me and my husband except we have everything in common, he supports me in college, and he likes me in classic (Mozarabic Chant is his favourite dress). I hope you find someone nice and financially supportive you love hun, it's wonderful having college age youth and freedom and financial stability at the same time.

Husband makes moderate 60k a year, company pays for housing and some travel expenses as well as his health insurance. All school holidays off, and we live in Asia so we have a pretty good lifestyle. I can buy 1-2 full-price brand pieces a month, less if it's crazy expensive (500USD+) but I'm building a good collection. My hospitality course is hopefully going to be yielding some real profit soon, so I can get him some nice things like a good leather satchel or an oculus rift. Apart from lolita we don't have any other vices except for vidya and good food, but we like to cook at home so it's not that expensive either. Last 'big' purchase we made was a nice electrolux blender together, still riding the 'new stuff' high. I've considered camming and sex work for money in the past, obviously not anymore since I'm married now. We've toyed with the idea of selling my used panties or socks, he's fine as long as there's no direct contact. I don't really need to financially, so I'd rather spend my time playing games and painting my nails.

>>7398408
do you have kids? I can't imagine a time in my life where I would actually be able to spend 5,000$ a month. Right now I spend less than 1,000 for food, room, transportation and spending and my life still feels pretty opulent sometimes.
The only thing I could really see myself doing would be what your husband did, which is supporting someone I love through school, and buying them lovely dresses!

That or spending like 3000$ a month on clothes.

I just work part time and I do a lot of jobs from my old company for some side money as well. Right now, I'm trying to have a consistent and workable wardrobe, so money circulates as well. I also do a lot of focus groups for companies since they usually pay a good amount to allow me to work a shift. I do have to pay for a part of the rent in the apartment I live in though, so it takes at least a month or two for me to get either a rare or new release jsk.

>>7398408
You don't sound like a leech at all

>>7398414
Haha no, I sometimes wish I did but I don't want to relinquish my freedom just yet. We'll do it when I've got a more stable career and can afford to take a month or two off and he's ready to retire and house-husband. I have 6 cats (all adopted strays) and feed a couple more in the neighbourhood so that and random medical plus lots of food and litter costs a lot. Then there's utilities and the such, we still have to pay for internet, water, gas, electricity, garbage collection and the maid. There's no established public transport in this country so gas and vehicle rent eats into it too. We like good food and fresh organic produce, and buy vidya pretty often too. All this boils down to about 800 a month for me to spend on lolita/cosmetics and other stuff that's exclusive to me, and 300 for him. It sounds unfair but he likes a small expensive wardrobe so like one new pair of shoes or some alcohol with a shooter keeps him happy. He also spends slightly more on games since he impulse buys cheap shit on xbox market a lot (like 1-5 dollar stuff), and I'm usually pretty happy with free stuff since PSN tends to have better subscriber content than XBOX Gold. We also put aside some for savings, his master's degree, and vacations. We went scuba diving and got our PADI certification at Christmas.

>>7398341
Good on you. I'm so envious of girls who make it on their own, it sounds like you have a pretty great set up. My mom got into property investment with a small start-up from my no-good dad and she's made it pretty good. Good luck with your investments, I'm rooting for you!

Some of the photographers I've shot with have paid me to model for their side projects. Usually we're talking $50-75 for a Saturday afternoon. I've only shot nude with one, and he pays me $75 for three hours, plus the good pictures on CD later. Sometimes he lets me keep some clothes if I find something in his bins that I really want. You have to find one you trust for that, but it's been a great experience.

>>7391806
How'd ya get that stipend, Anon?

>>7395690
>>7396351
I live in Ireland and it seems like the only entry level jobs ever going here are call centers. I badly need a job, but I personally wouldn't do it. My friend worked at one recently and she had to ring people selling shit to old people who were so gullible that a lot of the time they'd say yeah.

Don't think I could handle that, even if it is for burando.

>>7398457
yeah god forbid someone have a comfortable life and don't need to be employed, right?

>>7398714
>75$ for a three hour nude shoot
oh honey

>>7398341
Would you mind talking some more about your experience setting up a spa? As in finding space and workers and getting clients, I guess.

>>7398833
Depends how it's measured, right? It doesn't sound like she's naked the whole time. Add in makeup time and changing and it's not awful for a model with little/no experience.

I just have a budget for the month, a couple hundred I can afford after my other expenses have been paid. If I want something that's outside my budget, I can sell off some other things from my wardrobe to compensate. Seriously though, just having steady, full-time employment will give you enough to have a hobby on the side if you spend wisely. You don't need to look for a quick fix for money (not that there's anything wrong with donating plasma or participating in research studies for a little extra cash, it's just not going to solve your burando problems).

>>7396419
Why not just lie? Unless you have gone unchecked for STDs..?

>>7398931
nahh, I get checked every so often. I don't weigh enough to donate anyways, as I've been saying. Unfortunately they don't let you lie about that.

>>7398946
That's true. I only weigh 100 lbs, and I could never donate blood at my high schools before because apparently you had to weight at least 110, so I kind of worry that I would still be too small...

Granted, someone said it was 95 lbs, but I'm starting to think it might differ a bit based on location?

>>7398964
I'm Canada, and here it used to be 100, then they bumped it up to 110. Then they introduces a special set of criteria for people under 23, which has a higher weight req but I'm not sure exactly how much.

>>7398850
Sure. I started out here in Austin working for a spa. They were pretty selective and asked for a third split. I worked hard doing fbsm and Nuru, no sex. I established myself as a favorite among people who enjoy this hobby, mostly by working out, making sure I always looked cute and sexy and by keeping up with news, sports and such. Men enjoy stimulating conversation during massage. So I eventually saved up $5000 to start my own place. Leased out a studio and turned it into a small spa with only two rooms. Worked for another month solo while maintaining contact with my old coworkers. Offered them a slightly smaller split than the old place. Pocketing $20 per session may seem like chump change but at the end of the night it ads up. Now I have the 5 most popular girls in the area working for me, I make sure they're safe by hiring security. Now I'm looking into getting a small apartment building to rent out. Double my money and be able to concentrate on school. I went into it all wanting to make money for brand but now I'm looking at the long term. For girls interested in going this route, stick with massage. It's easy money, and you don't have to sell yourself. Just be pretty, fit and smart. Brains will help you stay safe and make the right moves so you can go solo. If you're good and you work hard, you can open your own spa in less than 3 months too. It's worth it.

>>7399019
And btw. It helps if you're not in one of the major cities. I only pay $600 monthly for my spa and I make that back with only 6 booked sessions, so less than a days work.

>>7398878
>>7398833
What do you think is fair? I actually set the rate our first time. After taxes it's more than I make all day at my regular job. :(

>>7398977
I tried to donate blood in Canada, but being under 23 there's a minimum height/weight requirement

I had to be something like 150 or so pounds at my height (4'11")

Lately I've been using some of my leftover money from my student loans to help pay for a couple dresses. I think if people knew the truth about this they would call me a dumb bitch, but actually the leftover money was meant for food/misc supplies to begin with, and I'm not eating as much (which is good news for my scale since I'm overweight). The way I see it is at least with the dresses I have a bit of collateral to sell back. Whereas if I blew my money on food, booze, or other shit there's no hope to get any of that money back in the future if I need it.

I'm currently a grad student (one more year left if I can crank out my dissertation in time) but I live in a depressed college town where there's no real job opportunities that I can use my undergrad degree for. So I'm stuck in another (slightly less stressful) retail job where they give me one or two four hour shifts a week with a pay of $8/hr. I think my highest paycheck in the last month has been ~$60.
It pays my gas, but nothing else.

To tell you the truth I'm really fucking depressed about being in debt after grad school (and my parent's want to see me attend law school yet) and I know I'll have the debt no matter what I wind up spending it on. I've tried applying for assistantships to lessen the tuition, but profs usually take in people with teaching degrees/experience before others like myself. At least the dresses make me happier before my imminent doom. It feels incredibly limited and hopeless.

To those anons in school/ without a college degree I highly recommend working at a bank. It doesn't make crazy amounts of money but starting hourly is anywhere between 10.25-14 and you pretty much get guaranteed get most of saturday off and all of sunday. It's not the best gig to have but it is a starting point and looks good on a resume.

>>7398341
That's pretty awesome. How much (ballpark) did it cost to open your spa? Did you live off of your wages too or did you save the whole lot and put them towards the business?

I pay for my dresses with my student loan, and sometimes take bits out of my savings. I'm in the odd position of getting maximum financial aid from SFE, whilst not paying rent because I part-own my house. Basically, a few months after we did my loan application, my grandmother died and mother and I between us inherited enough to buy a small flat about an hour from uni. I'm generally able to save about £50-200 a month. I'm also looking at investing in some property of my own; when I finish my degree my mother wants to buy me out, and I still have a bit of my inheritance left over, so in total I'll have about £12,000 for a deposit. I'd like to buy somewhere in Cardiff, so I can live there for a bit.

>>7399075
Some places it's entirely possible to keep on getting promoted through the ranks as well (though this may depend on where you live).

>>7398408
this sounds familiar to me
of course it leans more towards relationship than straight up sd/sb but it's honestly damn close enough
> be me in college
> move in with bf
> takes his moms mercedes, gives me his audi
>takes me on trips to asia

im pretty sure he'll pay my loans when graduate, too
i mean i do small domestic things for recompense, but thats a small price in comparison to what he gives me

I get financial aid and a check every few months, and the more credits I take the more money I get. It's great since I don't have to pay bills, and just one check makes much more than I'd make with a part time in a month.

Part time job plus school grants. With my grants, what doesn't go for books/tuition/savings is fair game.

I usually just use what money I get for birthday and christmas, although I do blow most of that at the mall/internet shopping/nights out. The nearest craft and fabric stores are like 20 minutes away by car (which I don't have) and I live on campus downtown in a city so I can walk to all sorts of entertainment.
>tfw when no financial aid because father hasn't finished taxes since 2011, both personal and for three personal businesses
>parents didn't save up any money for college because always assumed I'd get a free ride
>thank lord for hefty scholarship so only owe the $4000 (basically cost of apartment) each semester
>also thank lord for my beautiful mother because she helps me out
>get irrationally angry every time I drain my savings from part time job on tuition

>>7398768
Not that anon but I'd guess it's because they're in some sort of STEM program. I'm pretty sure in other disciplines you have to pay for grad school.. but I at least know in biology grad programs in America, it's the other way around, they pay you. Just assuming here, but I think it's because a lot of the credits are spent doing lab research.

>>7397822
>>7397965
I'm 23 turning 24 in May and I'm female with a boyfriend I met while in the AF. I joined when I was 21 and I signed up for 6 years. Its not hard getting in, its hard waiting to get in. I came to my recruiter in April and wasn't sent to basic training until December that year and thats probably only because I went in open general which meant I would take any job that the AF gave me. I got Services which is basically anything customer service related but more specifically food (being a cook/managing inventory/managing a dining facility), working at a gym (cleaning equipment/maaaybe conducting classes), lodging (being a hotel receptionist/manager), mortuary affairs (working with actual bodies/parts and doing the paperwork), and protocol (the guys who set up food/lodging/fun stuff for celebrities and distinguished visitors on base). The three main jobs they give to airmen are food lodging and the gym and sergeants and above get to do protocol and mortuary. Right now I'm in food as a cook planning on retraining into something less stupid.

I'm a nuclear engineer so I make about $85,000 a year, I usually have a lot of extra money for things I want like lolita and cosplay!
The job is challenging, but it's something that I'm interested in and like doing and I get paid quite a lot so life's pretty good for me right now.

>>7399083
Massage tables, towel warmers, towels and supplies so I could open put me at about $1000 not counting the deposit for my lease

>>7396318
I'm going into the air force for meteorology so I'll have spare cash and stuff like you, it sounds pretty great and I can't wait to get in.

>>7399395
You should be my sugar mama.

>>7398503
>and the maid.
you don't work but you guys have a maid? why?

Overnight stocking at a grocery store. 35hrs a week at 11$/hr. I moved out though so I gotta pay rent and stuff

>>7399068
>law school
I wouldn't fuck with that if I were you. It would make your situation so much worse.

I work 15-30 hours a week at a clothing retail job at $8/hr, though in June we're getting upped to $9
I also live with my fiancee, who makes $13/hr +comission [usually a couple extra thousand a month]
So I cook and clean and sew, and he pays for it and gets to just sit and enjoy it. we have rent, phone bills, furniture payments, and things like that but we manage and are still able to go out for outback or sushi whenever we feel like.

>>7398768
I'm in one of the MD/PhD programs that receives NIH training money. So not only did they pay for my medical/grad school (so no loans needed), but the training grant + program money pays for my stipend. In return, I give them my soul for ~8 years.

I'm a student who has a sugar daddy.

My parents are really well off, they sort of throw money at me once a month as long as I go to the uni and don't ask for more, so that's how I buy my lolita, always second-hand thought. I also do handmade things and commission some accessories from time to time.
I'm sick so it's difficult for me to find a part-time job, I would like to be less dependent from my parent's but I don't know any place who would recruit a non-qualified chronically ill student...
Anyway, I want to work as a fashion/costume curator and it doesn't pay too bad.

>>7400408
does your school have the option of working for them as a tutor?

>>7400413
Not at my level, I'm on first year and we have to attain the fourth one to work for them.

>>7400370
I don't like to do housework and I have a sensitive skin condition on my hands that prevents me from coming into contact with solvents and household chemicals, it's also triggered by friction (e.g. gripping stuff like mop handles or wash sponges). He does the dishes on the days the maid is off. I bake and cook a lot at home, but usually just scroll, watch drama, play with the cats, and play games. Like I made lemon bars today and he had to juice and zest the lemons for me because of my skin condition.

>>7400394
Oh that sounds so sweet, I had to double take because the second part sounded just like us. The closest Outback is waaayyy into the city though so we don't get to go often and just had sushi for my birthday yesterday.

>>7400397
If I hadn't met my husband I would have totally gone into SBing. It sounds like such fun. What's your SD like?

>>7400454
He's 56

Very dominant

>>7400454
you can't wear thick rubber gloves? and nail polish doesn't trigger this condition?

>>7400463
diff anon.
your SD is rather old, is he sweet , though?

>>7400475
He's very kinky. But he's generous.

>he paid 5k to take my virginity
>gives me 5k a month now

>>7400454
You sound pathetic and lazy. You're probably fat too.

>>7400478
5k sounds nice....
what do you consider *very* kinky?

>>7400462
Rubber gloves also trigger it, since it makes my hands sweat. It's actually Pompholyx or Vesicular Eczema. Sometimes associated with the sweat glands, and can be triggered by stress and heat as well. It forms clusters of small pinprick blisters under the skin and causes swelling and intense itching. I really have to baby my hands, they can't be dry or wet for long periods of time, constantly moisturized, never scratch or in extreme temperatures, and can't grip things tightly. I have pills for if the itching gets really bad and steroid creams to reduce the blisters and special moisturizer. It's only in the palms of my hands and the base of my fingers so nail polish doesn't irritate it, but I have to be careful when using remover. I've done the dishes with gloves (and lots of talc inside) before, but it's a hassle and I can't do other housework.

>>7400463
>>7400478
That arrangement sounds great, what sort of stuff do you do together? Just dining and sex or vacations and stuff too? 56 is a fair bit older than my husband but I don't see why not, how's the sex? Gosh I'd love 5k in pure allowance, so much braannddd.

>>7400482
He throws parties to his close friends where he does things to me.

>he puts me in chains
>he slaps me around
>makes me eat out his asshole
>makes me suck him and his friends
>fucks me
>calls me names, "my shy nerd fuck toy" etc
All that in front of them. Once in a while he lets his freinds borrow me. They're all older too.

>>7400485
Oh god that sounds so hot. Husband and I talk about stuff like that but he's too possessive to actually do it. I know it turns him on thinking about fucking me while I suck someone else's cock. Good on you, very Eyes Wide Open.

>>7400485
the sharing is a bit much. i dont think i can ever perform rim jobs for money, even if it is 5 grand....

>>7400489
What I don't like is that sometimes they like to be very rough with me. Choking etc.

>>7400489
ghahahahaa she eats shit for a living

>>7400490
im not a fan of deliberate choking or asphyxiation in general unless im the one in control.

>>7400485
I'm ok for everything except sharing. In fact, I do everything with my partner except sharing. But he is kind of a hygiene freack so we shower and wash deeply before having kiny sex.

>>7400485
This sounds like some creepy sissy's fucked-up fantasy. I have to call troll.

Sage because this thread really took a turn for the worse.