/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Non-lolita here.

I don't understand how you can say you are poor when your entire hobby revolves around buying overly-expensive and frivolous brand name shit.

>>7390423
If you buy indie, offbrand, secondhand and can sew yourself, you can keep your waredrobe pretty cheap.
Plus, the first step to acquiring more money for bigger pieces is to stop buying non-essentials, like wigs.

>>7390448
you can always buy a cheaper wig that would look nice with different coords. L-mail has pretty decent wigs for cheap.
you dont need loads of them, having one of a natural color and styling it for each coord would make quite a difference
real hair looks shitty so quickly. sigh

>>7390483
I like using my real hair. I have curls, so the body of it can work to balance out the poof of the skirt. Wigs certainly look great and I'd bet the girls who wear them love their predictability and ease compared to natural hair. No fiddling with humidity and timing your showers and styling with when you're going out
I don't like wearing wigs since those are the times that I get the 'are you in a play?' 'is that a costume?' 'what're you supposed to be?' questions.
I also put a lot of work into my hair, and it brings me pride when it looks good. I like the feeling of my soft curls against my cheek.

Wigs look great, but they certainly aren't required with lolita.

It's 2014, you don't need a wig to go with lolita. I'd even go so far as to say that wigs, even natural ones, are a bit out of style. Only wear a wig if you're going for a very OTT look or if your natural hair is disgusting.

>>7390803
>I'd even go so far as to say that wigs, even natural ones, are a bit out of style
While i personally don't care either way, i suspect that other anons will disagree with that statement... i think its fine to wear a wig or style your own natural hair: I do both because i like change. Wigs haven't gone out of style but nor are they required as >>7390721 said.

I'll dump some pictures for you, OP.
I can't guarantee that I won't accidentally post a wig! Please point them out if you see them, anons.

I don't particularly like it when the hair is up like this. I don't think it has enough volume for balance. Thoughts?

>>7390837
But then again, I like pic related. I guess this is bigger? It's styled, I love the curls. And her headpiece doesn't cover up the hair

>>7390847
Not to mention she has a pretty low key outfit, subtle colors, the skirt is pretty short and doesn't have a ton of poof, and the neckline feels more casual too.

Here's another updo I like too, especially the poofy sidelocks and bangs.

>>7390837
Theirs look a little bit sloppy in execution. If the buns were a tad more poofed out it would balance better.

>>7390853
I think part of why I'm feeling 'eh' is since I don't really like their bangs and sidelocks. Especially the blond, I think she should have curled her sidelocks or at least curled the ends inwards. It kind of looks scene-y the way it is now?

>>7390448
wigs are still cheaper, seriously

The livejournal daily lolita group has a natural hair tag. This is one of my favorites

>>7390408
You really can't afford A $20 wig?

>>7390865
It's not about if a wig is more expensive than a second hand JSK. It's about general finances. If you cut out some of the tiny expenses, you will have more money for the bigger pieces you absolutely need for a good lolita coord.

>>7390408
>wigs are pricey and im a poorfag
yes, because in a hobby when even the cheapest things are still more than a wig it's too expensive still. your hair probably just looks like shit. fuck off.

>>7390876
it's about the OP being a whiny little dumbass. people wear wigs in the fashion if they can't style their own hair and if you can't do that and refuse to buy a wig you should get out.

/r/ing short-to-medium length curly hair, if there is any. I'm in the process of growing mine out but I want to try styling it while it's growing, haha.

>>7390879
>if they can't style their own hair and if you can't do that and refuse to buy a wig
Isn't OP trying to learn how to style her hair though? People aren't born with an innate ability for these things. Isn't it a good thing that she wants to know how to do it right rather than settle for limp, lifeless, unstyled hair?
Sure we can nitpick about how OP prioritizes her finances, but everyone can benefit from learning how to style their hair properly and discussing what looks good and what doesn't.

She's my favorite, she always does her hair so elaborate.

>>7390891
She really is great! Has she ever put out any hair styling tutorials?

Half the effort in lolita is taking care of your entire appearance and almost 100% of what you're asking for can be found under pinterest hair tutorials for X hair length.

OP, please at least share your hair length and type with us if you really want more detailed help.

Personally, I either straighten my hair and curl my bangs or go all out with curlformers since my hair cannot hold a curling iron curl to save my life. I also have tried wigs but sice I'm at novice level, they end up looking worse than my real hair in combo with headaches during and after the wig wearing event. Another good option is to try hair pieces like the stuff that Prisila offers for extensions and volume for your hair.

>>7390886
What's your haircut like? Any bangs? How tight are your curls (I don't have the curly girl chart on me, but it's a letter then a number)?
Something I like to do is take a shower at night, let it dry a little bit (not bone dry but not dripping down your neck), finger through some styling cream or hair lotion, and braid it up into two tight french braids. When I unbraid my hair in the morning, it really livens up my curls, they're much more uniform, and much tighter! If your hair isn't too slippery with braids, don't tie it off while you're asleep. It'll leave marks in your hair, and the change between braided hair and the straighter ends might be noticeable.

This girl has medium length curly hair

can a bitch get some loliable tutorials up in here?

I've given up on wigs and want to use my hair that I'm growing out for coords

>>7390908
Though there are some very cute hairstyles that look great in street clothes, but just don't work in lolita. There's a lot to consider with how the hair looks with your clothes: Is the coord prim and clean cut or a little more flowy and casual? How much poof and how long is the skirt? What is going to be worn in the hair? How busy is the bodice and neckline? Will there be a bolero/sweater?
You'd want a different style depending on what was going on.

>>7390886
I found a short bob!

>>7390910

>>7390803
I think the neccessity of the wig can work for matching coords too...
I have dark brown hair, and wearing that with pastel pink and yellow and blue doesnt look as nice as say with a blonde or dark blonde wig.

1/2
Goes into detail about exactly how to curl your hair. I like the little bit about how to curl your bangs to the side.

>>7390819
>>7390867

Them curls - now I seriously need to know how to achieve those ringlets naturally, my hair is exactly her length and I'm afraid of damaging

>>7390872
>>7390874
OOH what happens
no really what happens

If OP just so happen to be in a rough patch now but still has a modest wardrobe of clothes right now?

COULD THAT BE POSSIBLE

>>7390927
> how to achieve those ringlets naturally
What do you mean by naturally? Like, not with heat? Or have your hair just grow like that?

>>7390895
Not only is her hair long but her braids are fricking thick
When I do mine they're literally half that width. You go gurl

>>7390909
I'm not sure if pic related is the curly girl chart you're talking about, but if it is, then I'm about 3A-3B, in a dirty blonde color with a left side part. I don't have any real sense of haircut to it besides the part; no layers or anything.

I feel like I'm not explaining this right. Basically, it's pretty boring with a bit of frizz.

(If you need more information I can probably try to explain better- I would post a picture but it would probably have to wait until tomorrow.)

>>7390933
Ahh, I meant to say no heat.
Sorry I was too mesmerized

>>7390937
>>7390909
Try the LHCs Visual Hairtyping guide, it includes non-curly hair as well

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=116252

>>7390933
Also I must know about this dress!

>>7390934
She makes me so envious! I love her hair. Long hair is so wonderfully ethereal for me.
I don't know if my own hair will ever make it past my sternum. I can pray and hope and take biotin!

>>7390937
Yup! That's the idea. If you were okay with it, maybe you can see if you have a local salon that has experience with curly hair? They could give you some layers that would liven your curls up so that the hair on top of them doesn't weigh the others down, without becoming a poodle.
Beyond that, how much have you looked into the care, keeping, and styling of curly hair?
If it's frizzy, maybe you need to try out the whole no-shampoo thing, check your conditioner's ingredients to see if it's got the right stuff in it, and have good hair-styling goop. I usually grab an olive oil hair creme or lotion from the black-girl-hair section of the store, but devacurl has their own line of products too. One of their styling cremes smells somewhere between flowers and skittles! It's wonderful.

>>7390945
It's BTSSB's Antique Lace Doll
http://lolibrary.org/apparel/antique-lace-doll-jsk

>>7390943
Ah! Thank you so much! That's super helpful!

Using that guide edit >>7390937 to 3b type, fine thickness, and average volume.

>>7390803
I wouldn't necessarily say wigs are out of style; there are definitely circumstances in which they are much better than natural hair.

While my hair isn't "disgusting," it's thin and unpredictable. Not to mention that it's dyed pink, which usually goes well with my everyday wear, but my lolita wardrobe is mostly classic and toned down sweet, so having a couple nice brown and blonde wigs has helped me greatly.

>>7390951
I think I will check out salons, haha.

I know about the bare minimum of curly hair care. I feel like it was just recently that I stopped using a flat iron on it. I'll definitely check out no-shampoo and devacurl, though!

(Thank you so much, by the way! You've been super helpful!)

>>7390951
That's a wig, though.

>>7390967
I'm glad to help! I didn't even realize I had curly hair until I started learning about this stuff. A friend gave me the Curly Girl Handbook by Lorraine Massey, I was kind of confused but she urged me to try out the methods it details.
My hair looked like pic related (which while she is cute, mine was a bit frizzier and stuck to my scalp) since I would brush my hair out every couple of hours and smoothed it down with hairgel like all hell.
Now I'm a 3A curly type!

Here's some salon finders that use these methods:
http://www.mydevacurl.com/curly_stylist_finder
http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlsalons/

I'd suggest grabbing the Curly Girl Handbook too.

>>7390970
Really? I thought Sapphira Doll used her natural hair most of the time. My mistake! I'm just checking by sight.

>>7390970
Oh dang, sorry. So hard to tell sometimes. I'll make up for it with pic related

>>7390951
I must have all the colours - thank you for linking!

>>7390925
I forgot to post the second half of this!
2/2

Related to this topic, does anyone have any tips for helping hair grow thicker and longer? While both my parents had nice thick wavy hair, I've been stuck with this thin, wispy mess that always seems to stop growing right at my chest. (cursed European mutt genes)

I know that this can't be changed drastically, but are there any things I could do—diet, hair care, etc. that might help my hair grow longer and fuller?

>>7390939
check youtube for rag curl tutorials. You have to do your hair before you go to bed, but they're easy to sleep on and no heat involved. It's how those ringlets were achieved back in the Victorian era.

>>7390970
what?
no it's not.

>>7390987
Ricin oil as mas for your haircap, frequent trim, brush it well everyday, you can use brewer's yeast pills too.

>>7390803
>I'd even go so far as to say that wigs, even natural ones, are a bit out of style.

I agree. It at LEAST is realling heading this way. There are many girls gaining recognition for using their natural hair, and wigs are so popular and there are so many bad ones that it can make a whole outfit look terrible by picking a bad one.

Long, healthy natural hair is really in-style when it comes to a lot of the casual looks that are also gaining popularity. Yes, it is 2014, and people in the west now have wardrobes and not just a few dresses they wear to meets.

>>7390914
*tips fedora*

>>7390993
So thats what they were called..
Thanks anon

>>7391026
dropped pic

>>7391017
I strongly disagree. The trend is natural hair for sure, but that just means natural-looking wigs are on trend, instead of cotton candy twin tails. Even well-done natural hair often looks thin and incomplete compared to a wig in a similar style.

>>7390895
Oh gosh, this is my goal hairstyle. I was starting to think that I should just cut off my hair again (growing it out and it's bothersome sometimes) but this is great inspo.

>>7391033
>The trend is natural hair for sure
>but that just means natural-looking wigs are on trend

so please, what's the trend?

Natural wigs were definitely the trendiest last year, I won't disagree with you there. Natural hair isn't 100% the new "thing", but its getting there, and its because of girls who already have gorgeous hair who don't need wigs. When super gorgeous girls wear their natural hair...well, super gorgeous girls *are* the trendsetters.

If you strongly disagree that the trends aren't going towards natural hair, you just can't see trends coming. I bet you think gothic and classic are *going to be* trendy too. Its pretty much already happened. Trendy people get the trends. Late people get the fads.

>>7390987
Biotin supplements. I take 5000mcg daily. Now I need to cut my bangs about every two or three weeks, and my hair isn't thin as fuck anymore. It's more dispersed too. They're apparently good for your nails too.

Only downside is that it also counts towards pubes. And for some people it could cause breakouts, but I'd say you could lower your mcg dose if that happens.

>>7391034
Here's some more long hair inspiration!

Mmm, I love her hair

>>7390970
That's not a wig.

>>7390979
>>7391000
>>7391064

I meant that >>7390934 ist a wig..it's not?

>>7391215
It's a wig. She used to have green side cut.

>>7391216
I know ( and I also think you can tell from the picture), but it seems that I just worded my post wrong.

and http://lolinaturalhair.tumblr.com/

>>7391232
This picture was taken in my city, why have I not met this girl yet? I have glass bottle of tears too, we could twin.

Will wearing a ponytail with a print-bow on it work in non-otp sweet? I love ponytails, but I'm afraid it's too casual...

>>7391283
Curl up the ponytail, put a braid in it, whatever. Just don't leave it as a /just/ a ponytail.

>>7391283
Side tails would look better, because you have to have volume to balance your outfit (pic related)

>>7390993
Not always.

>>7390891
what's her name? Does she have a tumblr?

>>7390927
google hair magic curlers, no heat required

>>7391299
Fanny rosie, http://fannyrosie.tumblr.com/

>>7391235
Not to be creepy buuut... Her name is Beth. Her tumblr is lilakitty.tumblr.com.

>>7391301
really? it doesn't look like her...

>>7391308
Yes it's her, the picture you quoted is from a few years ago.

>>7390993
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7bjCSteybc
That's the method I use. The curls come out beautiful and they last days! The cocoons-curls also do it for a more natural look.
I'm also into braids, they are a lifesaver when you're having a bad hair day.

Hey seagulls, what do you think of completely straight hair in lolita?

>>7392458
needs to be really long to look right

>>7392458
I don't usually like it, since it usually doesn't have a lot of volume to it.
If you've got bangs, layers, and hairspray, maybe.
When I do like straight no-nonsense hair, it's usually because they're wearing a hat to help with their head proportions. Something like bowler-hat sized. I'll see if I can find a picture of what I mean

>>7392481
That's really cute! I've always been unsure of how to style my hair, but I favor keeping my hair completely straight because I think it suits me best. I'm willing to try and experiment though, so I'm thinking about trying rag curls sometime. Thanks!

>>7392458
Also, I'd say that straighter hair works better with coords that have a lighter poof. Sam here seems to keep it lighter and wears more otome. I'll post a picture of her in sweet next.

>>7392458
>>7392514
And in lolita. Her poof here is a lot less than what you'd see on OTT sweet with the signature giant poofy wig.

>>7392481
>>7392458
Here's also an idea of what I mean by the hat

>>7390830
herajika???

>>7390861
> the blonde
implying you dont know who they are
implying you dont know the finest Belgian loli/jashionistas of the 2000s

>>7392568
Sorry, I just save pictures, I usually don't pay attention to the name listed with it. Some of my pictures are years old and the filenames are generic

>>7392545
More hat + straight hair!

>>7392586
more hats

>>7392633
hat

>>7392640
I love berets

>>7392650

1/2
w/ petti

>>7392662
2/2
w/o pett

>>7390934
I always thought her hair looked thin to average in thickness, even in those plaits.

I have fine, naturally stick straight hair, plus I live in an awfully humid environment. Even if I style my hair into something resembling volume, it falls flat and straight again shortly after I leave the house. I've been happily wearing wigs, but with summer coming I have my concerns. Any tips? I feel like no matter how much product I use I'm doomed.

>>7390910
>>7390916
Yo, weird request, but could I get some idiot-proof hair tutorials? Shit with a lot of detailed steps that could maybe get someone with 0 hair style experience to Competent.

I see all these amazing looking tutorials all the time and I feel like a moron because somewhere down the line it looks like it skips a crucial step or I'm too dumb to figure out an in-between step that's really obvious to most people,

>>7392980
Do you use decent hair spray or any hair setting serums? Also are using heat or no heat? I find if I use heat in my hair, the style goes quickly, though if I do rag curls/papillon curls/foam roller curls, my hair holds the curl for a couple days.

You may need to curl your hair tighter instead of loosely as well so as the style relaxes after an hour or so, it doesn't fall flat - then you can just brush it out with your fingers to loosen it up a bit. You can also try teasing your hair for volume though it is damaging.

>>7393008
no serums, but I use a freezing hair spray, and it doesn't seem to help much. I usually use heat, but haven't tried wet curling methods.

>>7391232
How do I curl my twintails all in one smooth curl like that? Is it possible to do with thick hair?

>>7392458
it has to be 100% straight. Otherwise, if youre like me and have somewhat wavy hair but dont want to waste time curling all your hair, curl the very tips and your bangs like how many of the girls in harajuku are doing right now. It looks less low-effort and more trendy.

>>7390927
i know this girl irl, she's so sweet! :) her hair is even prettier IRL.

>>7393069
Yes, she is fabulous :)

>>7393026
Curl the hair normally. Make sure all of the curls are going in the same direction. And then comb them together to make 1 giant curl.

>>7390849
Does anybody know what skirt this is?

>>7392640
Who is she? Her outfit looks amazing.

>>7390927
everything about this outfit is stunning, but where is this jsk from?

>>7393248
IW's Sweets Teddy Bear skirt.

>>7393387
Fancymelody, a french lolita.

>>7391232
Oh god this is me, I'm surprised this got posted because my fringe here is terrible and my hair has no volume ever.

>>7391235
I hardly have ever been to meets and I've moved now for uni. Maybe one day!

>>7391302
Slightly creepy

I'll stay on topic and post adorable natural hair.

>>7390448
Saying you are poor is weak. You didn't need to justify your post, and also you look like a hypocrite (as do most who say they are too poor for xyz.)

I hate how this is a thing now, the "I'm too poor" excuse cosplayers and lolitas throw out all the damn time. If you were actually poor, you wouldn't be buying anything except necessities. (No, not eating out at McDonalds either.) I seriously want to scream in their face when they say "I'm so poor I can't afford ___" especially if they don't/barely work.

>>7390819
for anyone still curious about Fanny's hair, she tells you how in her tumblr faq:
http://fannyrosie.tumblr.com/post/62762850003/faq

>>7392338
This is a great video, thanks anon!

>>7393020
The method suggested by >>7392338 might help you.

Sorry to derail the thread with personal nonsense, but I am at my wit's end with my hair.

It's that annoying kind of fine that is either dry, frizzy, and staticy or limp and greasy. I can only go a day without washing it, and even then if I hide it in a bun. It's almost collarbone length now, which is the longest I've had my hair in over a year.

Is there any method or product I can use to get it smooth and shiny again, or am I stuck with updos and wigs?

>>7392545
Source on that bag?

>>7400531
Looks like btssb

>>7390993
Adding to this though, Victorian ladies also used hairpieces to supplement their more intricate hairstyles. This doesn't mean that you shouldn't use your real hair at all (I personally prefer natural hair over wigs), but don't be disappointed if you can't achieve super elaborate hairstyles with it! For the majority of people that's just impossible without a bit of help.