/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Just gonna ask again in here, has anyone had an error while uploading pictures on lacemarket? I keep getting "invalid file".
Im just trying to upload some .jpgs I took with my camera idk.

good morning, I'm new in this thread and I'm looking for some advices; I want to buy some lolita clothes and other complements but I don't know where I should start searching, can someone tell me which websites I should look for a good stuff, thanks in advance :)

>>7391158
Hellolace and lolibrary for basic research, egl.livejournal.com is the international lolita community, check the memories. You can also read /cgl/ sticky up on the front page.

>>7391141

Did you check the file size?
I've never put anything on lacemarket before, but most sites have size rules when uploading pictures.

>>7391158
It also depends on your taste and budget. What kind of Lolita things do you like?

What is she doing in Ageha...

>>7391158
Milanoo.

>>7391219

>>7391192
Lel
Did you think she doesn't do other types of modeling either?

>>7391141
If your file name has any periods, you need to remove them or lacemarket will think it's a different file. I had this problem a while ago too.

>>7391244
pssh no of course not

(what magazine is that from?)

I've been vacant from the fashion for about a year, but I have a heap of bodyline in my wardrobe. I want to jump back into the fashion and get me some burando.

What looks better? Brand blouses with bodyline or brand dresses with bodyline blouses?

>>7391273
Brand dresses with non shitty quality BL blouses. Better yet... get cheap brand blouses.

>>7391273
I agree with >>7391277 , although BL blouses with brand dresses might work. The dress draws more attention so it's more important. That said, BL with good quality brand like IW would look very off-putting, but the reverse would be much worse.

>>7391273

I actually found bodyline is a good site for wardrobe filling when it comes to blouses. The blouses are pretty good quality (only a few shit one on bl these days) due to the fact they are getting rid of most synthetic lace blouses and using cotton lace (pic related) This blouse for example doesn't look that great on the site but in person is BTSSB quality shockingly enough.

This blouse is a good simple design, and is pretty good quality for a wardrobe filler. I tend to have 2 or 3 brand blouses for extra special events and use the bodyline blouses for daily/regular meet ups and such.

>>7391284
ALSO not many people care about blouses, a bodyline blouse with a brand jsk is a good mix. Most people are paying attention to the dress.

I'm not quite sure how I feel about this.

Do you guys have any items you wear with lolita bought in normalfag stores? What's the general consensus on that? I'm not talking skirts or JSKs but maybe shoes or bags.

>>7391244
thats weird seeing the torso/upper half of her legs

>>7391357
I have a few pairs of shoes I've picked up at various places like famous footwear that are really awesome. I've also bought a few blouses and accessories I wear regularly from Forever 21. Charming Charlie's has some really cute inexpensive bags. I've been meaning to pick up one that'll suit classic a little better.

>>7391357
I use offbrand/thrifted cardigans and boleros a lot, but I also have some brown oxfords from Payless that are pretty cute to look at--though they're extremely uncomfortable after a while-- and they look very similar to Innocent World's organdie ribbon shoes.

I also got a black satchel bag from Target and a cute Bonbon Ribbon bag from Sanrio (though I'm not sure how "normalfag" Sanrio is considered).

What's the difference between Secret Shop and Antaina shoes? The tea parties look pretty much the same, is one better than the other?

>>7391386
secret shop is better

>>7391192
Weird considering Misako probably finds agejos uncouth and too tan and knee exposing, oh my! The article is about how she fits and stores all her lolita clothing and medical textbooks into a 6 tatami mat room (3m x 4m) so I guess that is relevant to agejo with lots of clothes? But we all know Misako stores her extra dresses in the spare bedroom upstairs.

>>7391158
>advices
why is there always someone n cgl typing it like that?

>>7391410
>Weird considering Misako probably finds agejos uncouth and too tan and knee exposing
Doubt it anon, I think she finds that knee exposing and uncouth is okay in Agejo but BAD in lolita.

Oh god. I found this last night. Watch if you want a really good laugh.

http://youtu.be/M6r-Jgkxe34

>>7391484

>>7391484
I just can't stop staring at her teeth. Is she part rabbit or something? Poor girl probably can't even close her mouth properly.

>>7391484
I don't know what's worse, this girl's shitty attitude of MOST PEOPLE DO CASUAL WRONG, her crap advice for doing casual, or her face. Jesus.

>>7391533
Hey now, that's insulting to the rabbits.

But yes, it is oddly mesmerizing how her upper lip can't reach below her top teeth.

>>7391410
>uncouth and too tan and knee exposing, oh my!

>still being a buttenraged ignorant sjw about that

>>7391535
You're right, I think I offended my rabbit prints. I'll go apologize to them the next time I'm in my closet, and bring them a carrot print.

Does anyone have any suggestions for decent casual petticoats? I love my Classical Puppets petti to death but I'm thinking I need something with less poof for more casual days.

I'm assuming Bodyline's petticoats are all total shit.

>>7391386
I have both. Secret Shop is definitely better. Antaina are more boxy looking and the faux leather quality is a bit more thin and thus more prone to denting.

>>7391388
>>7391597
So I should go with Secret Shop? i'm looking at Minky Shop and the prices seem decent but is there another site I could look at? I need two pairs of the same style of shoe in pink and lavender

>>7391603
Clobba's cheaper, I think.

>>7391568
BL are all right for casual sometimes but it depends on the skirt and its weight. Mine also isn't lined so its scratchy.

>>7391613
clobba is the only person who can get tea parties from secret shop

>>7391423
2. Because esl? In the phrase 'some advice' , the word some indicates plural and usually you add an 's' onto nouns with a plural determiner.

2. If not esl then because retarded?

>>7391618
There are many nouns in English that don't have an s at the end, like sheep or fish.

>>7391603
Don't ever buy from minky shop, they overprice out the ass for everything.

>>7391423
because stupid people like you think everyone on 4chan lives in America and has English as their first language

>totally lied and said english was my second language in a post when I messed up a sentence/forgot what part of a dress was called

>>7391623
And people learning English will often say sheeps or fishes too.

>>7391423
>>7391627
The syntax of the whole post seems to indicate that the poster is not a native English speaker.

Though awkward speech as an affectation like using 'advices' is kind of a thing these days. An annoying thing but a thing.

>>7391629
That's fine? I was just trying to help, no need to be rude.

>>7391410
>But we all know Misako stores her extra dresses in the spare bedroom upstairs.
Along with her four children.

>>7391639
I wasn't being rude, just demonstrating that simply pointing out exceptions isn't overly helpful. Singular and plural words are a known stumbling block for esl learners.

>>7391410

> The article is about how she fits and stores all her lolita clothing and medical textbooks into a 6 tatami mat
>medical textbooks

Hold up. She's a med/nursing/health science student??

>>7391690
Good for you? And actually, it is, the way you learn english, nouns especially, is memorization. By being told that they are one way rather than the norm you will remember it for later.

>>7391712
Are you new?

>>7391712
Misako is a registered nurse.

>>7391712
She's a nurse. Modeling is just a side career for her

>>7391726

I didn't know much about her. Sitting on the beach isn't good for you.

>>7391729
>>7391733

That's cool to know! That's pretty awesome actually. I would have just said 'screw this, I'll model and put off studying/working until I'm ugly."

>>7391357
H&M blouse, forever21 jewelry, knee socks from like TJ Maxx or something.

>>7391484
>This is what I wanna do and I consider it casual lolita
>YOU GUYS ARE ALL HORRIBLE AT CASUAL LOLITA UGH FUCKING AWFUL

>>7391623
Which is tough for people to remember. My Korean friend still has trouble with this, and she's been living in America for five years and studied English for even longer than that.

>>7391484

>>7391357
I use a lot of offbrand shoes and bags. I have some Forever 21 blouses that work really well for casual days, some patterned socks from normalfag shoe stores and a lot of cardigans. There's this one Anthropologie sweater that's coming apart at the seams I wear it so much.

Does anyone have pictures of the KL Jellyfish headpiece?
Is the long part detachable?

Does anyone have a folder/archive of Imai Kira art for easy download?

>>7391386
antaina toe shape and toe bows look terrible. It's so easy to pick them out from secret shop or the original AP tps

I actually personally like secret shop TPs over AP sometimes. The different generation of AP tps have a lot of slight differences when it comes to how close or far the toe bow is towards the front of the shoe, and the newer ones have it set further back, while secret shops' knock offs usually follow the older generation of tps with the toe bow much closer to the front of the shoe, giving them much less of a 'clown shoe' look, since the further back from the front the toe bow is, the stupider the shoe looks.

top left SS, top right Antaina, bottom left AP

>>7391484
ya'll don't remember when this girl posted on egl at the beginning of last year (or maybe the end of 2012) saying she wanted to be the 'face of lolita youtube' or some shit? lol

typical

>I'M A PARTY GUUUURL, I WEAR LOLITA AND I DRANK AND SMOKE WEED, PASS ME DAT FRILL ASS DANK LOOOL

>>7392613
I like antaina's teaparty-esque shoes with heels, but I agree that their tp replicas look like shit.

>>7392617
More details please, I did not know about this girl. Her face gave me so many lulz already, I would love to hear more.

>>7391522
>>7391961

>>7391484
This is honestly the dumbest video I've watched in a while. She's not funny, and she's annoying as hell.

>>7392675
Don't you wanna know how to do casual the right way? Obey it.

>>7392675
Do not question sensei.

>>7392660
well she posted this really embarrassing post to egl about promoting herself on youtube and wanting to be the 'face' of lolita or some stupid bs. And I think... no one commented on it... for days. And then we started making fun of her on here and posting all her dumb videos and she bawwwleeted the egl post.

I mean that was really it... I think it was such a sad attempt (apparently this girl has been a lolita for years, so it wasn't like some nub move, it was someone 'experienced' who is a big member of some comm and has a decent wardrobe, owns brands, etc) that no one even posted secrets about it. Like that's how sad everyone thought it was.

>>7392694

I feel bad, it's not her fault she looks like that. But she's old enough where she could probably shell out for her own orthodontics if she wanted to.

>>7392704
Wow, that's really pathetic. I'm so amazed she didn't take her videos down yet.

And what a face of lolita she would be.

>>7392712
I personally think people only look ugly when they do shit like what she said in the video. (Telling strangers on the internet what to do, or being cocky.) If they want to draw attention to themselves like that, they deserve every nitpick they get. Besides, some people aren't pretty but their personally makes them attractive. Only dicks get called out for looking as ugly as they act.

>>7391484
She really should have just kept going with the videos. The fact that she stopped as soon as anyone had a problem with her is redic. Don't pussy out if you are going to do shit like that!!!

for the price I very much doubt it's real silk.

>>7391636
>>7391627
I assumed English wasn't their first language actually, I'm just starting to wonder if it's the same person every time.
It's only in lolita threads.

Also, I don't live in America either, calm those jimmies.

I don't have pics, but I own it in navy. The long part isn't detachable, it's sewn down underneath the bow. If you're skilled enough in sewing though you may be able to remove it?

I can take pics of it tomorrow if you want to give you a better idea.

>>7392894
who? what?

>>7392864


Sorry, meant to quote >>7392318 . I'm really tired haha.

>>7392901
Ok really sorry for fucking up and misquoting AGAIN but I don't give enough of a crap to wait to delete my posts. I'm sure everyone gets what I was going for by now.

>>7392894
>>7392318
Wait, what? The veil on mine is definitely detachable via buttons.

>>7392690
>>7392694
>>7392707
I'm choking. This progression was genius.

>>7391286
good to know I can supplement. I've been wanting to know this for a long time.

>>7391386
definitely secret shop as it makes your foot look a lot cuter and the bow is closer to the toe.

>>7391522
Can't stop laughing. 10/10

>>7391484
the only thing worse than the video is the comments. so many fucking itas

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but since the mail thread is saging, I thought I'd give it a shot.
Did anyone here reserve MSND during the second round? If so, have you guys gotten your dresses yet? I've gotten no updates from BTSSB at all, even though I've heard some people already got theirs that ordered during the second round. I messaged them earlier on, too, but they told me basically to wait my turn; I'm not too sure if it'd be overzealous to message them again now

>>7393244

Second round and received mine. I only got my tracking number a week ago, after seeing other girls already receiving (and wearing) theirs though, so I don't know whether it's possible they're still sending them out

>>7393251
Urgh, I was afraid so; most people say that they've received theirs already... guess I'll just take the plunge and message them again.

I don't really care about Douglas Adams/Hitchiker's guide to the Galaxy that much, but every time that girl does her four week repost of her leaving lolita sales post on the comm_sales with the misquote as her cut text... I get so so rustled.

I think that is basically the limit of how bad you could fuck up a quote with people still understanding what you were trying to quote, instead of fucking it up so bad that no one even realizes you were trying to quote something in the first place.

>quote quote quote quote

ugh, now I hate that word

>>7393244
Also second round, also received. You've checked your spam folder and all that?

Graduation is coming up this summer and I'm not into lolita but I was thinking of buying a pair of shoes from either bl or ap. Is this okay or would I be frowned upon by lolis?

>>7393267
Those are damn different price ranges

>>7393264
Yep, checked and nothing.
I sent them an email right now, though, and they replied saying it hadn't been sent out yet. Hopefully they'll send mine soon, I suppose.

>>7393267
I don't see a problem with it unless you try to claim that because of the lolita shoes your non-lolita outfit is actually lolita. Also as >>7393270 said, those are two incredibly different price ranges... if you're only gonna wear the shoes occasionally or just to graduation, I'd say to go with Bodyline or Secret Shop, unless AP has a style you like better and you can afford them. That being said, do whatever you think is best.

>>7391629
You know, both fish and fishes is correct, it depends whether you're talking about more than one species.

>>7391484
>my forumla for casual lolita
>grab a cutsew
>grab a brand skirt
>throw them together
>sprinkle with accessories
>add headbow, always
Well that took a real genius, but it still looks like ass. Cutsews are a very obvious and lazy choice, and even hers didn't quite match many of those skirts. And then the overload of the accessories: What's the point of toning down the clothes when you're going to make yourself stand out again by being a gaudy, walking jewelry case.

>>7393256
>no idea what you're talking about
>love Douglas Adams
>go to egl
>Goodbye, and thank you for all the fish!!!
..........

>>7393399
Fish is becoming a popular topic on this thread.

>>7393404
Damn it, are, I fucked up.

>Mfw i see that sloth pic and burst out laughing in the middle of formation

You guys have to stop doing this to me. Have any lolitas ever thought of using BDU's to make Black Operations Lolita?

>Killer fashion

Thoughts on short hair lolita? I'm talking about boyish short kind. I have a short boyish cut wig a bit like pic related and I'm wondering if there's a "rule" for lolita and hairstyles?
newbie here btw

>>7393413
I don't mind it as long as it looks good. It's really a personal preference, since I'd think the only "rule" regarding hair in lolita is that is looks good. Nothing ruins a coord like terribly styled (or in some cases, completely unstyled) hair.

>>7393399
you even tried to type it out and your brain couldn't fuck it up even as bad as she did (you added the 'all' to yours)! I've seen that post about three or four times now and I just get some damn angry

>>7393413
If it's cute or elegant, and matches the feel of the outfit, I don't mind short hair. One has to be a little careful with hair accessories (something like a head-eating bow could make your hair disappear and make the outfit look unbalanced), but if one is careful it can look good with lolita.

Is it all right to wear a halter style JSK without any blouse/cardigan? (In warm weather.) I have seen a few girls wear them with just a petti and proper shoes/accessories/a nice hair style and it looked really pretty.

Pic related.

>>7393662
Yes, it's fine to wear halter JSKs without blouse/cardigan in warm/hot weather. As long as you keep the proper silhouette, groom yourself, and accessorize wel, you're fine.

So what's going on with ODIP?

>>7393672
Baby threatens anyone with lawsuits. Big shock there. Tocco just doing her job, while not grooming girls 20+ years younger than her

Where would i find the german lolitas active comm/how is the comm preferably near cologne. My german isnt extremely fluent how hard would it be to be a part of the comm? Are there any english speakers? i saw a few german speakers in the lolita in public post

>>7393399
>>7393256

Haha, so that makes at least 3 of us. Glad i'm not the only one who wtf'd at that misquote. It's not like the original phase wouldn't fit either.

I'm guessing she done it to sound funny/amusing. How amusing then that she's induced cringing and annoyance instead.

>>7391357
I thrift a lot, and love vintage blouses for Lolita. Also a lot of the nice loliable stuff I find happens to be from Primark, which is VERY surprising to me as I usually hate their quality. Maybe they used to make better garments before? For example I found a light coat which fits a good sized petticoat and has frilly details and bell sleeves. I plan to change the buttons to make it look even more lolita.

>>7392919
Is it now... Ok, granted, I've always just assumed it was sewn down so I've never TRIED to detach it...

... Ok, yup, I just checked it out and you're completely right. Sorry for making stupid statements when I was dead tired, hah.

>>7393668
Glad to hear it! I had a feeling that as long as the outfit looked put together it would be okay. Thanks anon!

>>7393688
Ughh, I am so glad other people are annoyed be this. Another cut I hate is anything ending with "oh my!" a la Lions and Tigers and Bears. Although I think people did that more 5 years ago.

>>7394119
"Down the rabbit hole!" is the one I find most annoying.

I think it would be funny if someone did bible quotes for all their cut text. Something subtly obnoxious, but not overdone.

How forgiving is the shirring in Meta's OPs around the shoulders. Pic related, my shoulders are about 3in larger than the measurement listed. Will I probably fit, or should I not even bother?

>>7394568
Anyone have any experience with infanta blouses or mylolitadress?

I've been trying to work out my size but noticed the writing above the size chart says the measurements are taken flat, but that just seems too big.
Any advice?

>>7394610
>>7394568

Shit, sorry about quoting you.

>>7394610
I've bought two infanta blouses before. I usually buy the M size, I'm a 86cm bust, 69cm waist and they fit me comfortably. I'd recommend looking at the sizing chart on Infanta's site as mylolitadress tend to be a centimeter or two out.

I've bought from them once or twice though and found them to be reliable.

Hope this helps!

>>7393672
Shit, that's bad. But yes, the ongoing gigantic silence coming from ODIP is kind of worry. Does anyone else have any updates of any kind?

Also, related. Since it looks like she's going totally bust, are there any other people looking to step up and run thier own similar operation? Like how Marie organised runs of indie designer items - I thought that was a great idea and I'd love if someone else did that who wasn't crazy. Cheap indie brand would be great :)

I'm sorry if I'm not supposed to ask this here, but I have a problem... I received BtSSB's Shirring Princess used a while back, and the fully shirred strapped are kind of stretched out... Not really sure what to do about it. If anyone could help I'd be extremely grateful.

>>7395275
straps** ugh

>>7393662
as long as your hair is tied up and youre not wearing OTKs.

>peeves me so much when girls are complaining about hot weather and opt to not wear a blouse, but wear a wig

>>7393363
Alright thanks!

>>7395275
Name and shame the seller, for one.

>>7395275

Take it in to a tailor's and pay them to fix it for you. The old elastic needs to be taken out and replaced with new ones. Alternatively, you could also request the tailor take out the elastic and shorten the straps permanently.

Yes, it's possible to fix it yourself, but if you have to ask here for help, that says something about your sewing skills already.

When you get the dress back, make sure you dry it flat whenever you wash it, and store it folded over, not hanging by the straps. The weight of the dress on the straps, wet or dry, is probably what stretched out the elastic.

Is this a replica? Is this a legitimate site? I like this dress but it just feels shady with that price, and I've never heard of this site before.

http://www.my-lolita-dress.com/dream-of-lolita-childhood-memory-bunny-dress

>>7395759
Replica provided by same taobaos shops Milanoo buys from.

>>7395759
>two stuffed toys tacked to the dress

>>7395771
What's the original? I like the basic design of it, but I dislike the stuffed animals as >>7395773
pointed out.

>>7395776

Angelic Pretty's Nakayoshi Bunny

>>7395776
Looks like old school AP. Bodyline also carry a replica (or used to ?). It's with rabbit shaped pockets. I'm not into AP so I don't really know the name, sorry

>>7395779

Dropped pic

>>7395779
>>7395781
Thank you both!

>that painfully obvious milanoo account posting on egl

After the multiple shit storms I learned that I can get ultra rare, not scalped, cheap as fuck burando from Rosearie because no one else will buy from her. Thanks gulls!

>>7391192
she's been in it multiple times

>>7396438
Don't ask me why though, I'm more into gyaru than lolita, I always assumed that lolitas would never touch an ageha magazine

>>7396441
It's more that some gyaru like lolita style. Besides girls like Himeka, a lot of gyaru wear accessories and things from lolita brands.

The lolita fashion tag on tumblr is highly entertaining right now....

>>7396462

Indeed it is, jfc. What is wrong with this girl?

>>7393662
for sure if it's really hot, like the other anon said put your hair up and wear ankle socks. though personally I think a chiffon bolero would be nice for hot weather too.

>>7396441
I think the divide between lolita and Himegyaru is not as wide as many people think, this isn't rare, in many issues I've seen gyaru wearing lolita, almost too many times to count at this point. I've also seen many lolitas carrying gyaru brand items as well. Now I'm not saying that a lolita would ever walk into 109 or wear dia but I do think that with the way Hime gyaru and Roma gyaru has progressed that it appeals to more lolitas and vice versa.

So we all know that theres always gonna be a noob in the comm. They usually start out ita, but get better after a while. Provided that they are pretty nice, how long will you give them to grow out of their ita phase before you get pissed?

>>7396441
I wear Lolita but love looking at Ageha and Kimono Ageha. I think HimeGyaru is very pretty and I've been thinking of trying some makeup and a coordinate. I appreciate gyaru style even if I don't wear it. The emphasis on improvement and doing things well is a good one that I wish more Lolita style followers practiced.

>>7393413
I have short hair similar to your pic, only with different bangs, and wear sweet lolita.
Generally, you should avoid head-eating bows (especially centered ones), bonnets and big hats. Stick to smaller bows&hats and flowers. You can get crazy with earings, since they will most likely be visible.

I wouldn't recommend wearing OTT sweet or classic. OTT gothic with short hair has some potential tho.

I saved up to splurge on these and I'm so happy. I hope AP releases them in mint.

>>7397055

Did you buy these from the USA site? I had my eye on the M pink ones ...

>>7391783
>I would have just said 'screw this, I'll model and put off studying/working until I'm ugly.
It's not a viable living, unfortunately. All of the models over there have other jobs/careers, even if it's as simple as working for one of the shops.

>>7397086
Yes, but mine are all size small. I'm planning on selling my medium pair (bought secondhand) if you're interested.

>>7396485
>be gyaru and lolita
>in the mood to go shopping
>wear lolita because why not, I want to be more fancy today
>satisfied with harajuku round
>let's go to 109!
>feels extremely out of place
>awkwardness ensues
>it's... not.... that... bad....
>yes, it is.
>only make it to 3rd floor before leaving

Never again.

>>7397121
Not that anon, but may I ask how the Ms fit you? I think I'm between an S and an M, and I don't know which size to go with. I generally wear a 6-6 1/2 in US sizing but my foot is 23 cm. The last pair of Ms I bought (SS replicas) were too big, but an S seems like it would be too small.

>>7397132
Did you get stares or...? I'm curious what happened.

>>7397157
I'm a US6/23cm and the small fits me perfectly. Some people say add an extra cm for comfort, but honestly, that's way too fucking big - I only need half a cm. I have the jeweled ribbon shoes and tea parties in both S and M and the M I haven't touched at all because my feet slide out of them even with insoles. I can't tell you much about secret shop unfortunately.

I posted about this before, but AP shoes have an extra cm for their insole (so while the S says 22.5, it's actually closer to 23.5cm for the insole length).

>>7397162
I didn't notice any stares but there were definitely a lot of side glances from non-shop staff... I might just be paranoid but I didn't think the shop staff were as enthusiastic that day (like going up and talking to you)

Eh I don't know, there was just a general feeling of "what are you doing here" and eventually "what am I doing here"

>>7397171
Thanks for answering!
I'll keep my eye out for smalls, then.

>>7397171

First anon, I'm actually very interested in your M pair. What color are they? Depending on the shoe, I wear 6 1/2 up to 7 1/2. Do you think I'm about right in thinking I need a M? I looked at the size conversion chart and it looked like size S might also fit but I just don't know. I have a pair of Baby boots I got from the sales comm and they fit like they were made for me but there aren't any numbers or sizes printed anywhere on the damn things.

>>7397228

And I don't remember what size the seller said they were nor who even sold them to me.

I should probably finish my train of thought before hitting send. @_@

I thought Lacemarket didn't allow replicas?
http://lacemarket.net/ap-plus-sized-sax-wonder-cookie-replica/

Also, tfw dream dress is on LM for cheap but it's in awful condition.

>>7397232
LM doesn't, you should report it.

>>7397225
No problem! Check mbok and y!a, since S were the first to go on the japanese website as well as the intl website.

>>7397228
They're pink! If you wear up to a 7, you won't fit in the S - and if you do, it won't be comfortable since your toes will probably hit the front of the toebox. If you can do me a favor and measure your foot out properly with your favorite/most worn pair of socks, I can give you a more definite answer.

>http://shoes.about.com/od/fitcomfort/ss/measurefeet.htm

>>7397232
They don't - if you report listings for replicas, they get taken down fairly quickly. I've already done so for this one.

>>7397255

I actually just found the old email I'd been using when I bought those boots off the sales comm. They're size M. Which is great because BOTH pairs of shoes I wanted from the AP site are sold out in M and I lament my hesitation.

Do you have a picture of the shoes you're trying to get rid of? : )

Asked before, but no one had an answer for me. Does anyone know what the average shipping is like on Rakuten? I'm looking into getting a coat and a few other things, and I'm worried that the shipping will be astronomical.

>>7397255
are these the ones with chunky heel? I do like how they look from straight above, but if they are the ones I'm thinking of, with the big chunky heel, I don't like the side view.

What does 'switching' mean?
"Ribbon-Ribbon Round Switching Blouse"

>>7397281
Yay! I can post pictures tomorrow since it's dark out and I have poor lighting.

>>7397322
http://lolibrary.org/shoes/jewelry-ribbon-shoes-2014

>>7397330

Okay! My email is in the field, that should make it easier for us to contact each other. : )

>>7397328
I think it means that military type bodice detailing, pic related it's the Unicorn Switching JSK

>>7397318
They ship with EMS. If you're getting a coat, probably $50-60

lacemarket kicking back an internal server error for anyone else?

Is Dear Lenore still behind on orders? I actually like the shape of their shoes and need to desperately replace my worn out ones.

>>7397626
I think it's a toss up, even if they aren't backed up it looks like it's taking several months for them to ship

>>7397626
It seems like they've only ever had bad reviews, I wouldn't risk it

>>7397460
Nope

>>7397630
>>7397636
Damn, that's too bad

>>7397121
Another person interested in the shoes

i've been lurking egl for a long time but now i want to actually dress lolita but i have a lot of casual/work clothes and i don't want to get rid of them or never wear them again so idk what to do :/ please help?

>>7397626
I ordered from them recently, since most people eventually seem to get their shoes, and I'm not within any time constraint. I feel like if you want them to get moving on your shoes, you have to get on their back; if you have the tenacity to message them and post on their wall when they refuse to reply, they'll make/ship your shoes more quickly, from what I've experienced so far.

>>7397880
? Are you saying you're planning to dress lolita 24/7 365 days a year?

You don't just get rid of all your normal clothing. Who gave you that stupid idea?

>>7397328
>>7397434
No it doesn't mean that.

"Switching" simply means that the material of one part is different than another. With that unicorn jsk, the bodice is velveteen and the skirt is a different fabric, hence the "switch" in fabric.

>>7397891
idk i thought it would be weird if i dressed like totally normal one day and then lolita the other. D: sorry

>>7397903
Ok i'm going to assume you're younger... Or maybe you're just really well off and don't have to worry about a job, or attending events where lolita wouldn't be appropriate.

It's a very very small fraction of the community that has the resources (I mean, having the kind of wardrobe that you could comfortably make outfits every single day out of is a lot of money and time, even if you're doing a lot of casual stuff, and thrifted/offbrand, still a lot of money for a wardrobe fitting for 100% lolita), the type of lifestyle, or even the simple desire, to wear lolita every single day. It's much more out of the ordinary. Most of us have normal clothing for work and activities that just aren't good to do in lolita.

Keep your regular clothes, you will need them at some point. Even the girls who do wear lolita every single day all year long probably have a very tiny selection of 'normal' clothing for situations that lolita isn't going to work.

>>7397903
Different anon here
Very few (if any) people dress in lolita 24/7 all year.

Most people just incorporate lolita into their existing wardrobe and wear whatever they feel like (because face it, there's going to be days where you just don't want to put in all the effort)

When starting out it's useful to have a theme so you can make different coords out of the few items you have. Unless you know, you're a billionaire and you're going to buy all the burando.
Good luck.

>>7397903
Keep your normal clothes. I wear lolita daily but from time to time I just want to wear something else. There're a few non-lolita friendly place too, like family meetings (at least for me), concerts, oral exams if you're a student, most jobs interview if you are older, so keeping casual, non-lolita clothes can be good. Also, I personnaly don't deal well with heat, so I keep a bunch of cute j-fashion-ih sundresses to wear in summer instead of layered lolita.
You should build you closet smartly and slowly, then you will see what you want to donate or throw away.

>>7397919
is it okay to wear lolita to school?

>>7397928
Depends on how you feel about getting attention (positive AND negative) and also your school rules

also teachers may/may not take you seriously

>>7397928
Just depends on the school? My school it would be fine, but there are plenty of schools with uniforms where obviously you wouldn't be able to...

>>7397903
Just gonna slip this in here.... that generally the idea of lolita and many fashions is to look presentable, fashionable, etc... so your "normal" clothes dont have to be lolita, but they should be presentable, fashionable, and nice. Lolita really isnt too practical for every day wear. If you want to look cute every day pick up a few more styles you like and mix them together. Pic related, Angelic Pretty outfit that is practical for school but isn't lolita but is still kawaii as fuck.

>>7397931
>>7397934
>>7397925
also whats a good time to wear lolita and how do you get to know the egl community where you live?

>>7397928
highschool or college?

I'd honestly just say to not do it in highschool, just wait a bit and do it in college...

>>7397937
For one thing, you shouldn't be here is you're under 18

You have to make judgement calls when it comes to wearing lolita. Obviously cons and meets are okay. Hanging out with friends is usually okay. Interviews and weddings are not usually okay. Learn your social cues.

There's a master list of communities, it was just posted on EGL a little while ago, so it's probably on the first or second page.

>>7397937
>>7397942

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Anw4aY5HpSLMdFU2UjZjZ0t2Z0I3RXZtemhkSWlMamc&usp=docslist_api%3E7363594#gid=1

>>7397942
thanks :D ill check it out

>>7397937
Speaking from only my personal experience:

I wear lolita 2-3 times a week (on my days off) and I wear it just to go out to eat with friends, go to house parties, or any kind of events that are happening that I'm planning on going to on my days off. I don't go to meet ups, my days off are in the middle of the week basically, so weekends are out for me.

Well, you can always ask about your local comm here, and they probably have a FB that someone can provide you. It'll probably be under a bigger city in your area... Where do you live?

Times I don't wear lolita: when I get home from work and just want to melt into my couch, at work (though technically I could since I work alone I guess? But it would be so pointless to sit in a chair for 10 hours in a pretty dress, and not as comfortable as my normal work clothes), and days where I don't feel like going out or doing anything except watching tv, etc.

>>7397937
A good time to wear lolita is a time where you'd see a normal girl wear heels and do her hair nicely. Some malls, museums, restaurants, etc are appropriate for a normal lolita outfit I'd say. Some colleges and towns/cities (hanging out with friends in Los Angeles, for example) are alright too.

Personally I dress in general jfashion daily and I pull out my lolita for when I head out of town to chill with my pals in LA. For daily wear, plainer is more ideal. Pic related. Note the shoes and hair accessory, as well as the muted colors and silhouette.

>>7397947
>Where do you live?
sf bay area >_>

also is bodyline an okay place to buy from? i heard the owner is a creep but i dont have a lot of money for this and i like some of their clothes :/

>>7397954
ok, i'm not fucking helping you anymore

Did all the images disappear from the MmM wardrobe on Hellolace or is it just me?

Does anyone have any tips on how to bend a bonnet back into shape? It's one of the harder ones so it would be difficult to iron.

>>7398170
I've never do it before but possible using a hairdryer or heatgun to warm the area out of place and then holding it in the shape you want it until it cools.

>>7398170
depends is it warped or creased?

>>7397880
>7397954
>>7397928
>>7397937
>>7397946

Jesus fucking christ, you sound like a retarded tween. Fuck off noob.

>>7397626
Kind of late to the discussion but I ordered/received my shoes from Dear Lenore before they got all backed up, and I really like them. I want to try their heels next, but I may wait until the backlog of orders clears up.

Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone knew a good shopping service to use for the Baby snow white collab? I know I'm late on the uptake but I'll be willing to pay extra for it, heck, I'd even take rosaire.

>>7393256
Oh my god thank you, it was bothering me so much, I thought I was the only one.

>>7393413
I think short-haired lolita can work, but stick to hats rather than headbows. I think a beret could look especially cute.

I just got my midsummer night's dream jsk, and the straps are too short. The dress will fit if the straps were just 1 inch lower. Any suggestions for solving this? I considered cutting up the headbow for additional fabric to mod the straps with, but I got JSK I which means the straps are covered in navy cotton lace. I haven't been able to find that navy lace anywhere.

Also considered turning it into a halter, I may end up doing that if I can't find another solution.

>>7398536
Just add extra fabric at the back. I wouldn't worry about lace not matching perfectly since you should be adding to it at the back and no one is going to see that. Then remove if our when you decide to sell.

>>7398536
Go to a fabric store, picka close shade of lavender ribbon, sew ribbon onto end of straps, use remaining ribbon to make bows with and put on the extending straps to hide it / make pretty

Does Amavel ship overseas? And what is their quality like?

>>7393662
>Is it all right to wear a halter style JSK without any blouse/cardigan?
Yes! It's super cute.

>>7393256
That's really bothering me, too! I know I shouldn't care, but I do.

>>7398571

>>7398571
It's completely stupid to say it's not ok. Looks super cute with or without. Sweating isn't cute anyway...

>>7398579
>>7398571
>>7393662
I personally don't like it because I don't like halter style anyways. I also think that without it it makes it look more like a 50s dress or some rockabilly shit.

>>7398579
I can understand OP's concern though. Girls in my community get looked at when they don't wear blouses underneath their jsks, or don't wear legwear that covers their legs lol

>>7398573
She looks cute but that's not a very cohesive oufit at all, even ignoring the ears.

>>7398579
>>7398571
Halters without blouses are cute and probably excusable if the temperature is through the roof, but I would really avoid it if you can like >>7398599 says.
It's just not kosher.

>>7398558
>>7398567

Interesting ideas, thank you both!

>>7398536
I also have a JSK with too-short straps. I'm thinking of tucking them completely in to resemble a bustier JSK. More blouse styles will work too. I think many look good converted to a halter too.

I own nothing lolita but I really love the fashion, so I would like to make a few questions..!

Where to start? How to first start building a small wardrobe?
I love all sorts of lolita sub styles but I don't think I'd like to see myself in all of them. Anything with too over the top prints or too frilly, just wouldn't do it for me.

Sometimes I look around online for lolita items and prices and even though I adore many brand dresses, they're probably something I wouldn't be able to afford anytime soon. Is a wardrobe built of off-brand and indie brands doable? I have 0 knowledge of indie brands, tbh.

When looking at sales websites, how can I know I'm looking at a good deal? I don't know how to put a value into an item.

I'm sorry for the bad english, incoherences and huge ammount of noob, I'm just in love with the fashion and want to feel like a princess at least once in a while.
Thank you in advance

>>7398756
You're going to have to do a bit more research on your own if you want helpful advice. check out the tags here http://lolita-tips.tumblr.com/ All of your questions have been asked before.

My advice?
First thing, decide what it is that you like. Collect pictures of the dresses that you would wear. Analyze any similarities or reoccurring themes, details, color palates. Then you'll have an idea of where to start. Come back once you have more information.

>>7398756
Go read the sticky? Jfc that's why we have it out there.

But since I have a good day I'd answer.

>>Where to start? How to first start building a small wardrobe?
Look around shops, find a JSK/OP/skirt you like, buy it. Buy or make a petticoat, look for blouses, shoes and accessories you could wear with your first mainpiece. When you'll have at least one good outfit with the first mainpiece look for another one, preferably in similar style or colours so that you won't have to buy everything to coord it.

>>I love all sorts of lolita sub styles but I don't think I'd like to see myself in all of them.
That's cool, you don't even have to stick to a style. Just buy pieces you like.
Don't try to come up with your own ~*special*~ style name tho. That's attention whoring.

>>Sometimes I look around online for lolita items and prices and even though I adore many brand dresses, they're probably something I wouldn't be able to afford anytime soon. Is a wardrobe built of off-brand and indie brands doable? I have 0 knowledge of indie brands, tbh.
STICKY IS YOUR FRIEND. But I'll just add that you can find a lot of brand for the price of offbrand on japanese secondhands, like closetchild or usagiyouhinten.

>>When looking at sales websites, how can I know I'm looking at a good deal? I don't know how to put a value into an item.
You have to look around and you'll quickly get some general knowledge of valuable pieces. Alternatively, ask about certain piece on /cgl's price check thread.

>>7398756
Be sure to also do your research. Just because you like a dress doesn't mean it's Lolita, and you DEFINITELY don't need to be buying cheap, costumey lace monsters off of Ebay or Milanoo. Look at other Lolitas. See how their coordinates look, how they work. Don't just throw anything together. Eventually, putting together good coords will come naturally.

Good luck!

>>7398859
I do have pictures saved of coordinates that I like, it's just hard to figure where to start. I don't have a defined way I want to go (I'm not going towards /just/ classic or /just/ sweet, etc), which is not helping either.
But thank you for the link, I'll go give it a look.

>>7398862
>>7398888
I'm sorry, I've just been to 4chan a couple times before, so I didn't even know there was a sticky. I'll go look for it.
I heard of closetchild but was unaware of usagiyouhinten, thank you. Don't worry about the lace monsters, I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.
Thank you very much.

Is it tacky or looked down upon to just print out pictures of AP postcard artwork and tack them to walls and cork boards, etc. instead of collecting the real things?

>>7398570
>Does Amavel ship overseas?
No, you'll need a shopping service.
>And what is their quality like?
Decent, I'd say you definitely get what you pay for at the very least.

I'm planning on reserving KL's lost in sea OP through clobba, however I'm lost on what size to order, medium or large.

My measurements are 89-64-89. I've heard the bust fits small, but I don't want to deal with the waist on the dress being 10 inches bigger than my own. I also don't want to have boobloaf.

What ought I to do here? Bind?

>>7391284
Bodyline wanting burando girl, here!
I have that blouse and I adore it.

>>7399219
Canadian detected

>>7399213
>switching between cm and inch in same sentence

Wat

>>7399219
Shit, sorry. 10 cm*, actual Amerifag, getting used to using centimeters for everything.

>>7399213
I love this dress so much, ugh.
Can I request sea inspired coords?

>>7399233
you're doing mankind a favor

>>7399235
Forgot to mention actual sea-inspired and not nautical/sailor. Sea life and water please!

new hot mess

>>7399283
I'd love to see some too, but how many dresses out there are underwater themed? I've only seen Lost in Sea

>>7399015
I think so.

>>7399296
I honestly have no idea, I don't own lolita and simply love looking at pretty coords. I adore everything sea-life, so I was hoping there were more dresses with an underwater theme than Lost in Sea..

>>7399289
everything this girl makes is horrid.

Likely a dumb question and I'm overlooking so something but the Lost in Sea JSK is listed @ ¥300, which in rmb to used converts to less than $50. Why is it $149-159 on Clobba? Surely shopping, transfer fees and shipping fee from a TaoBao shopping service is cheaper?

>>7399296
I'm sad because this is all else I could find

>>7399296
And mermaid princess if it counts but I don't like the front of the dress

What's the general opinion on burando pettis? I'm considering getting AP's organdy petti.

>>7399313
Maybe I'm being dumb and overlooking something, but I don't see it as being listed anywhere in the taobao store. Where are you seeing it listed at ¥300? I would totally skip clobba and do that.

>>7399289
~*jizzy kei*~

>>7399289
was wondering when someone was going to comment on this. I'll be looking forward to the related secret.

>>7399343
I was being dumb, it is a deposit. I had to translate the text lines separately to see this, google translate doesn't translate the page.

>>7399343
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=27384220129

>>7398573
isn't that mintkismet?

>>7391244
she looks super hot in jeans, who would have thought

>>7398536
Do what I did and sew the straps together to make halter. Or you can buy replica fabric from Oo Jia.

>>7399213
To be honest the boobloaf is less from the sizing than the cut of the dress.
I can't speak for the OP, but the bust on the JSK is very high and hits me weirdly, despite being well within the measurements of the M (Bust:85cm). I honestly feel like my boobs are placed too low on my chest for this dress.

>>7399213
if you are the same size, but over a B cup you will have boob loaf

>>7399406
This.
I'm >>7399393, and I guess I should have mentioned that I wear a 28E-32D depending on what bras I can find.
Once I the worn pictures started coming out showing the fit, I knew fit was going to be somewhat of an issue since empire waists and larger chests don't mix well. But still, for some reason this cut looks way worse on me than any other high waisted piece I've tried on.

Dumb question, sorry guys.

For eglfeedback URLs, can a facebook post in a sales comm be used?
If there was no original egl-sales-comm post, how do I leave feedback for the seller?

>>7396462
caps?

>>7399415
You can't.
You can only leave feedback for transactions that took place on egl-comm-sales.

Does anyone have a clear tutorial on how to make those rosette award things that are popular? I want to make one for my tricorn hat.

>>7399296
>>7399307
Chèrie Cerise did a jellyfish skirt

>>7399450
it's kinda like this except with felt and sewing ribbon
>http://www.craftinessisnotoptional.com/2011/08/prize-ribbons-tutorial.html
>http://www.100layercake.com/blog/2009/10/19/prize-ribbon-place-cards-with-brittni-of-papernstitch/
>http://www.piggybankparties.com/oink/2010/07/tutorial-prize-winning-blue-ribbon.html

>>7399235
>>7399283
>>7399296
Emily Temple Cute and Shirley Temple have made several aquatic/mermaid themed prints, including the ones I've posted here.

>>7399534
Also the indie brand Belladonna did a cute nautical print.

So I have this fear of buying blouses. I know I can get custom sized blouses from taobao to fit my measurements, and I can fit into some larger sized brand blouses. But even if I get a blouse that will fit my measurements, I'm worried that the sleeve and collar combo will look like shit. What do?

>>7399213
My measurements are 89 cm bust and a 73 cm waist and I ordered the large which is recommended for a bust of 90 and a waist of 70. Do you guys think it might be too small? I'm nervous now.

Can anyone recommend where to find a red peter pan collar blouse? Or maybe something else that would look cute under a sailor style JSK?

I've looked everywhere locally but no luck. I really wanted to try and find it somewhere in the US but I have a feeling I'm going to have to look at international sellers.

$80 for this seems pretty damn excessive. Those roses and that crown look so cheap, not to mention the handle.

>>7399627
I could literally go to Michaels and make this for like $20.

I own Chess Chocolate's pink JSK, and I really love it. But lately, I've been thinking a lot about Musee. They're both gorgeous dresses, and I'm a sucker for chocolate either way, but...

Is it worth letting go of my Chess Choco to move to Musee? Or should I be content with what I have?

>>7399722
Get both.

>>7399627
I really want to know if this sells.

>>7398682

This is interesting, but the straps are too thick, they made little bulges no matter where I put them. I think I might just take the straps off entirely, maybe make some shoulder straps with navy ribbon that I can swap in or out.

Thanks anon!

>>7399376
Funnily enough, I already have the replica. I'd like to be able to wear the original to meetups though. I might make removable halterneck ties with the shoulder straps. Thanks!

>>7399360
Nobody fucking cares about you.

>>7399722
I also say why not have both? A couple of a Lolitas collect chocolate prints.

>>7399213
>>7399592
Don't worry, the OP runs a bit big. I'm 90cm bust and 70 cm waist and it fits me with room to spare. The sleeves are really dramatic so it's actually too big in the neckline, I feel like I have linebacker shoulders in it. Thinking about trading to an M but there's a snag in the hem from my cats so idk if anyone would want to trade with me.

How do you guys choose what leaves your closet? I've been collecting lolita dresses for over 2 years and haven't sold a single thing. I'm currently at 30+ main pieces (coats, skirts, jsks, ops) which have all been worn fairly often. However, I'm moving in with my boyfriend into a much smaller apartment and there is no way I can keep every single item.... even though I desperately want to lol Any advice on what to let go would be greatly appreciated.

>>7399015
If it's for you own room I don't see the problem, really.

>>7399931
Phew - thanks, anon! That makes me a bit nervous about the sleeves, my shoulders are on the bigger side for my frame so I hope I don't have the same problem.

I wouldn't be worried about the snag as long as you take a picture of it. Not many people have been selling the L size so it's probably in demand.

>>7398120
They did, it's really weird.

Are there any known/reliable shopping services near Yokohama?

AatP is doing a special Masquerade Theater opening for their new store

And I have so much need

>>7399988
Nope. Most SSes are busy with the AP release on the same day, and if they aren't then you have to pay a huge transport fee.

>>7399988
you might be paying out the ass for transportation, but Tokyo Pirates?

>>7399960
Do you wear lolita often or is it more of a special occasion type of thing? If it's the former, then maybe keep the plainer pieces that you can coord easily and not look over the top on a daily basis. If you can't at least make two outfits with one main piece, then forget about it. If it's the latter then just keep a few outfits that are coordinated well and wear them once in a while.

>>7399335
As much as I love my precious burando, I think it's just overpriced considering you can get the same quality elsewhere (plus it doesn't even get seen when worn)... but hey, it's your money!

Does the re release of Milky Planet have glitter as well?
Also do they use the same fabric quality the 2nd time round? Or is it just the cuts that don't make it as popular

>>7400106
Yes, it has glitter. Same fabric quality as reg AP dresses. The cut made it unpopular. No scallops.

>>7399960
Could you maybe get those slim plastic tubs that are made to fit under the bed?
I use those to store old cosplay things and surprisingly you can get a lot in them.

>>7397928
>>7397938
I wear lolita to my high school. Most of the school is pretty chill though, there's a lot of foreign kids and it's easy to avoid people. If I were you, I'd start with JSK with no petti and a sweater, brand minskirts, blouses with normal bottoms, that kind of thing.
>>7397937
Most of them are on facebook. Where are you from?
Maybe start by messaging one person without being weird, posting about a new brand release, or just wait until a meetup.

>>7400048
I wear lolita both ways, which is why it's so difficult for me. I'll try the multiple outfits with the main pieces and see if I can narrow it down from there.

>>7400336
I've never even heard of those but that sounds amazing. Is it something like this?
>http://www.amazon.com/Under-Plastic-Storage-Drawer-White/dp/B000AEBT74

>>7400123
Ah true, them scallops.
I used to own the 1st release before I had to pay some debt back. The glitter just tickled my fancy despite being classic-sweet.
Thanks for the reassurance.

I need to sell some things but all I have is my shitty phone camera buuhhhhhhh

I mean it'd be fine on lacemarket if there were decent stock images but these are old luckypack items so there aren't any.

Can anyone translate what this says for me? Much appreciated. I'm trying to figure out if I can order something or not.

>>7401653
Basically I'm getting that it can't be sent via plane, which I would assume means no overseas shipping.
Shipping is through a courier/delivery service, and if you order with/wanting mail service/delivery (post?), they'll change it into the courier service, which costs 525 yen.
After receiving your reply regarding the courier service, they'll ship it out.
Shipping takes longer than usual. Please something (can't figure out the character(s), apologies).

I hope this helps you. My japanese is really shit as I've only been studying for a year or so and not diligently at all.

Anyone else here order Dreamy Girl?

>>7399335
I have one... it works pretty well and its less annoying then laying 3 pettis.. but you still may need another layer of cheap petti depending on how you like your poof?
Also keep in mind.. yes it doesnt get seen... but dont buy lavender unless youre sweet and always plan on being sweet... the big mistake i made and it looks really dumb when its accidently peeking out from a non sweet dress

>>7401693
Better than I could have done. I really appreciate that! Booo. I guess I won't be able to order what I wanted, then. But it's only listed on a few items, though, so hopefully everything else would be okay? Man, I was really hoping this shop sold overseas. Now I'm kind of worried.

Is IW the only brand that releases more than one lucky pack a year?

>>7402066
Meta tends to do summer and winter rounds. Other brands may or may not, depending on how they feel.

>>7402370
Ah thank you kindly, do you by any chance know if meta does them at the start or end of summer?

Are all of innocent worlds colors the same?
Are all their chocolates the same nad all their "production" whitish color the same?

>>7402427
yes

An item that I really want just got listed on Tokyo Alice but I can't pay for 4 days. I know it will probably take 1-2 days to confirm - should I order it now? How many days do they give you to pay?

>>7402427
Yeah, the stock photos just suck ass

>>7402460
I swear it would take longer to shoop the colors than to just photograph each colorway too.

>>7402451
Holy crap what an enormous update they did... too bad I have no money either.

In my experience they took something like a week to get back to me, so you might be ok? I'm not certain if a week is typical though, and I paid immediately.

>>7402470
I sent it anyway, here's hoping that they won't invoice me straight away/give me a few days to pay. I also hope no one else beat me to sending the email.

Thanks! I know, it took awhile to sift through it all, haha.

>>7401222
Yep! Those are even nicer than the ones I have. The ones I have are just snap top but they have little wheels on bottom so you can pull them out easier.

Does anyone know a good pattern or tutorial for making Bloomers? I'm a pretty experienced seamstress I've just never made anything that looks like pants

>>7402792
this video is pretty straightforward
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzbvi14ytx8