/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

forgot to add, this thread is in hard mode
>photos must be worn
>i.e. no fattychans/hag-faces who lay outfits on their beds

>>7349184
Going to nitpick, but the bag should've been in a lighter color, or made of straw.

I can already see the arguments in this thread.

>>7349189
printed socks a tad too messy here?

>>7349192
Biscuits have no place in this coord.

>>7349201
Too bland.

>>7349205
Is this lolita? No.

>>7349188
wtf is that?

>>7349188
This doesn't really belong here then

>>7349216
She didn't say no ugly faces.
She said no people trying to hide the fact that they have ugly faces by just taking a picture of the outfit. Must be worn.

Learn to read?

all you bitches nitpicking only, post your top tier co-ords too

>>7349222
pretty much this, no noobs laying photos on their bed but look like shit when bed-outfit is worn

>>7349203
I don't find it too bland, but I feel like rose tights are out of place, and the shoes are off

>>7349218
Oh gosh is that natural hair? Very pretty.

>>7349223
This should be a rule in hard-mode, too.\
No nitpicking unless you post something too.

Hey can we do requests? Like I want to see a top-teir outfit with ____. (colors, brands, specific dresses, ect.)

>>7349235

>>7349192
Oh my fucking god that leg shoop
You could kill a man with that front knee

>>7349232
>Baggy shirt
>Almost no poof, which is sometimes okay but with an outfit this plain I can barely call it lolita.
>Blues don't match
>Heavy blues on top, heavy whites on bottom, not balanced at all.

It's a start. Not exactly ita, but top-tier? Not even close.

Example: Same silluette but done way more elegantly.

I'm looking on tumblr trought tags (brands and styles), and I'm surprised we have so few well dressed lolitas here. Not even top tier, just well dressed girls with balanced outfits and interesting elements.
So, what's you definition of top tier ? Is it just "better than most people" or "wow that's fucking amazing" ?

>>7349233
i think it's okay but don't let requesting be the main point of the thread

>>7349238
isn't she cheating by pulling the skirt? she didn't put on enough petticoats didn't she?

>>7349229
yes let's make it a rule, also no mannequins (real human worn pics only)

>>7349249
>definition of top tier
definitely differs from person to person, but let's try to find outfits that are flawless, and if anons contribute imperfect outfits we decide how to improve it even more i suppose

>>7349241
With her hair braided down or in a low side ponytail it would be perfect

>>7349242
that's just a knee cap?

>>7349258
wig's kinda shiny imo

>>7349257
>oxfords

no.

>>7349257
Ok, because I've found a few outfits that's looks really good but are on the plain sides, so I'll post them

>>7349259
Agreed. The hair is a smidge too simple. Just a small extra element to make it flow better instead of the hair being an afterthought.

>>7349265
>>7349266
Nice hivemind, anon. Thanks for posting a full-body shot too!

>>7349278
too much going on the legs, contrast between the black roses x purple socks x purple rose stuck on heel is clashy

>>7349267

I like everything in this thread so far

Pretty darn nice.

I can't nitpick a thing cause all the nitpicking I see in here is just personal preference

>>7349294

>>7349296
up your game, anon
your expectations are too low

>>7349299

>>7349304

>>7349278
To be honest, when I first opened that photo I thought it was some ita mess. That dress has potential, but that baggy blouse looks awful, not too fond about the flower on the shoe also.

>>7349305

>>7349306

>>7349306
You need to adjust your definition of 'ita', then. The blouse looks fine, she just needs different shoes and possibly some tights that are less busy. I like it because it feels like a pirate-inspired coord but doesn't use brown leather accessories as a crutch.

we need to be fair to the sweet lolis too. (my sweet folder is tiny though)

>>7349314
Selfpost much ?
This top is not well fitting and it definitly lack of golden details on the top part

Also op, are brand pictures ok or not ?

>>7349321
was the fur really necessary?

>>7349321

>>7349326
You need to adjust your definition of 'ita', then. She chose clothes that didn't fit, dress design that is very busy which didn't work on her, and picked busy socks and shoes. And post what you consider as a top-tier outfit when replying, or are you just an ita?

>>7349326
It sounds like anon just saw the dark purplexblack and automatically jumped to ita, which is understandable, seeing as that combo is one they flock to. I agree that it does have a kind of pirate-y feel, without being your normal brown.

>>7349222
I wasn't even talking about the face. The garment makes her lumpy and while the lace and design is beautiful the construction is not something I would call top-tier.

>>7349337
Too bad about the dots, plain sheer tights woudl've been better, big dots are not elegant enought for this outfit

Can we get some more sweet in here?

>>7349337

>>7349328
>brand pics
guess they are OK
have no idea who is this chick >>7349314 though, agree her top is lumpy and it's not a good fit, but i don't feel there's too much a lack of gold around her neck-to-hips area

>>7349337
it's not a bad outfit but those heels killed it for me, can't put my finger to it but those heels made the outfit look so...layman.

>>7349326
>>7349332
Not really, it just the impression it gave me at the beggining. Though it still looks messy.

>>7349353
Only thing that kills it for me with this one are the boots, then again, I'm not a fan of clunky shoes.

>>7349355
forgot the image, my bad

>>7349363

>>7349345
I hate to say that but it's very rare for me to see a coord and not think 'well, if I had the money to buy this, I could totally make it or even do it better'. I'm building my wardrobe slowly, so I lack of detailed accesories, but I'm not often impressed by those 'top-tier' lolis.
Sure we have a few (fanny rosie, lieschen) who never miss the mark, but otherwise everything is kind of do-able.

>>7349361
Selfpost?
>reds don't match
>is that a t-shirt she's wearing? a little too simple for a cutsew
>creepers

>>7349361
>>7349362
Oh come on, really?

>>7349372
>but otherwise everything is kind of do-able
oh anon, you'll be surprised...

>>7349368
huh, I have a lot more co-ords than I originally thought. Who knew?

>>7349372

>>7349385

>>7349377
blue brown black white...no.

>>7349375
...i'll stop, and leave the sweet to the experts.

>>7349387

>>7349378

>>7349389

those itas behind her though

>>7349335
She obviously understands the fundamentals of lolita (the necessity of a petticoat and the distribution of color if you disregard her poor choice in shoes), she obviously practices basic hygiene, and she has a decent-quality wig that is well-maintained. This photo is in the archive from being posted in half a dozen other threads and literally nobody has ever had a problem with it.

>>7349397

>>7349266
>>7349265
Who is this girl? Any links?

>>7349403
I proceed by brand, and even brand officila pictures are not that top tier

>>7349401
Only reason I didn't post this one is because I'm not digging the shoes with this coord.

>>7349400
but anon you're in a top-tier thread. we aim for top-tier perfection. of course if it's imperfect we nitpick.

>>7349404
nothing reverse search can't answer

>>7349406

>>7349410
There's a huge difference between nitpicking and calling ita.

>>7349417

>>7349419
Hug, big bow and pink wig are way to much

>>7349420
they look like fluffy mono-colour blobs

>>7349420

Dug this one up since people wanted sweet

Are there any top-tier coords that use turtlenecks? I've seen it mentioned here before, but I've actually never seen someone wearing one with lolita.

>>7349232
>>7349241
Girl, chill out, it's supposed to be otome. Idk why other anon is posting that in this thread.

>>7349433
Ugly

>>7349163

>>7349433
That purse has too much blue

>>7349432
hnnggg choke

>>7349437
Just because she has a 4/10 face doesn't mean it's not a top tier outfit. Wash the sand out of your vagina.

>>7349440

>>7349447
OP said no uggos or fatties. >>7349188

girl in red

>>7349456
OP said no noobs who pretend to co-ord without actually wearing said clothes.

>>7349447
Different anon but that really isn't a top-tier coord. The star clip and the bag stand out too much for the coord to be really outstanding. It's a pretty good coord, but not great

>>7349457
That's just cookie cutter AP.

>>7349456
>who lay outfits on their beds

You'd do well to finish sentences before speaking.

>>7349449

>>7349464
>finish sentences before speaking

okay

>>7349464
The top is off in the collar area, the hair isn't goof, shoes are to clunky for this summery outfit, generally looks cheap, try again

>>7349468

i bet half the girls who waste time laying clothes on their bed/making picture collages on the computer don't know how to nicely dress clothes on a real human body.

>>7349468
Now that's some great haitr !

>>7349471

>>7349469

>>7349474

>>7349475

>>7349480
Shoes are of, wristc cuffs are ay too detailed for such a simple and plain outfit

>>7349480

>>7349470
different anon but
>top is off in the collar area
can you explain this
>the hair isn't goof
so the hair is not bad..?
>shoes are to clunky
these are the "clunk" normal going out shoes have?
my gripe is that the blue sticks out too much from the outfit

>>7349473
puny picture, can't see details of said great hair

>>7349437
somebody's jelly

>>7349479

>>7349487

>>7349486

>>7349483
actually i think that's a perfect casual outfit...i'd like to see what blouse she's actually wearing though

>>7349485
that wig/hair looks bad can't pinpoint why

>>7349299
I don't even like this dress but the coording is so nice I can't complain! Really nice
.>>7349305
I can't imagine how hard it is to untangle her hair...
>>7349309
Is her face really shooped or is it a weird angle?
>>7349336
She really does look like Bo-Peep in a cute way.
>>7349345
Anyone know the name of this OP?
>>7349378
I don't care for the blouse but it is well coorded. I love the JSK though, source?
>>7349387
I would kill for this MM dress.

>>7349491

>>7349484
For the collar, I can't put my finger on it, something looks of, maybe because it's layered
The hair isn't good * (yes I can't type), it looks like Pippi Longstoking's, shoes need to be lighter with that much summer color

>>7349493
Whoops, wrong picture. Sorry.

>>7349490

>>7349496

>>7349492
>tfw random flower crown
>tfw hydrangeas
I usually hate flower crowns but uuuunf.

>>7349505

>>7349500

>>7349509

>>7349512

>>7349518

>>7349492
I think it's because the wig isn't flattering on her face shape. Her face looks
too long?

>>7349523

>>7349502
I think it's not really a flower crown but a hat.

>>7349527

>>7349436
Well if it doesn't belong in this thread, anon wasn't wrong in saying it didn't look good as lolita.

>>7349300
>dat Iron Gate.

>>7349345
that dali face in the bookshelf lol

>>7349228
does this have a petticoat underneath it?
i'm really new to lolita and i love this outfit, but i have no idea when skirts are a certain poof level

>>7349218
Oh my yes! I love this thread!

>>7349564
Yes, it does. Generally, sweet should have somehow more poof than classic and gothic, and the more OTT your outfit is, the more poof you will need to balance it.
Other than that it's more of personal preference.

>>7349196
That's ok, it's better than arguing over itas, haha!

>>7349233
Post a great contribution photo with each request. I think that should be fair.

>>7349572
oh gosh thank you, so helpful!

>>7349241
Top tier thread. Concrits are better here too. Yes!

>>7349577
Aww, you're welcome!

>>7349278
Sauce on JSK, please?

>>7349589
http://lolibrary.org/apparel/bustle-corset-op-0

All this pictures and no Mintymix?

Itt, also a challenge to appreciate what is GOOD and just done well without needing to shoehorn in what you just DONT LIKE or blab your own preferences in the comments.
Clue: '...but not a fan of blank..'
That's so very petty.

>>7349600
> thank you kindly.

>>7349611
I don't fucking think so.

>>7349434
>>7349241

>>7349305
holy shit that hair O_O

>>7349440

What dress is that? I'm in love.

>>7349257
>isn't she cheating by pulling the skirt? she didn't put on enough petticoats didn't she?
>she's just pulling it slightly

this whole thread is why people think lolitas are bitchy

>only brand models are considered "top tier" without complaint
>every other girl has some obscenely small detail picked on and discussed to oblivion

cgl is truly in top form today

>>7349254
I always loved this coord but it seems like she wasn't wearing a blouse? I mean at all. It's just skirt + bolero?

>>7349668
IKR, torn between amazing and so creepy. But I love it. Maybe that's just me?

>>7349639
Hehe, claws out much, my dear? All the pretty bothering you, perhaps?

>>7349203
Bland doesn't make it not top-tier. Not everything has to be OTT for it to be perfect.

>>7349690

I have to agree.
Near the start of the thread I said I liked every coord I had seen so far, pretty good stuff.

Then some bitchy person responded with "you have low standards, up your game"

Really, really? Those coords are nice. They look like they did some nice matching and kept to a nice aesthetic.

It was a true display of "Hey stop liking what I don't like, my opinions are more valid than yours."

>>7349639
>nice

>>7349297
Is this actual decent ero?

>>7349205
I fucking need that shirt.

>>7349265
Except that she isn't wearing a wig. That is her real hair.

>>7349715
Uhhh there's definitely something under that, can you not see all the colors between where it's tied?

>>7349261
Who is this? So very lovely!

>>7349765
>>7349715
I think it's tattoos?

>>7349363
>not a fan of clunky shoes
>posts this clusterfuck
this entire outfit is the epitome of clunk.
I think she could have traded out those...nude...fishnets? for something opaque in a dark red or burgundy.
The red satin ribbons on the shoes are too vibrant for this print, she should have used cream ribbons to relace them. the brown sole on these looks out-of-place too.
Long corsets destroy the lolita silhouette. A shorter corset or a cincher should replace the one she's using. In addition the blouse underneath looks ill-fitting (the sleeves are way too long for starters) and the bright gold trim on her hat is much too yellow and clashes with the rest of her antique-looking jewelry accessories.

this is bordering on belonging in the ita thread instead.

>>7349789
holy shoop

>>7349354
Honestly, those shoes kill this outfit. It makes it so bottom-heavy since there is no dark brown in the rest of the outfit and the oxfords don't fit the overall sweet theme going. Flat oxfords are a plague that must be destroyed.

>>7349774
>>7349265
Lizchen-r.


I want to wear this to my wedding.

>>7349791
Have you never seen Iiralina before? She really is that thin lol

>>7349813
It's the socks that are bothering me, but yeah if they had a heel it would be much better. Both combined make it looks like a guy in trouser socks and dress shoes. I agree flat oxfords do not belong in lolita.

>>7349791
Actually, even in other photos taken of her (i.e. not her own) iiralina IS actually just that thin. She's 6' 1" tall, and has a small enough bust/waist to fit into older unshirred Moitie - her listed measurements are something like 78cm/58cm bust/waist.

>>7349813
To be fair, that pic was taken at AX (I recognize her from the Misako tea party), and I can't blame her sacrificing some style in favor of comfort by wearing flat shoes to walk around in all day.
What bugs me is that star clip. I'd swap it out for a small flower or something.

I fucking love this dress. Wish I knew where it was from

>>7349791
Not shoop.

>>7349834

Can I see some top-tier salopette coords?

>>7349854

>>7349834
Innocent World
http://lolibrary.org/apparel/marianne-jsk

>>7349860

>>7349254
Are those the replicas shoes or the originals, anyone know?

>>7349207
>is this lolita? no
get. out.

its a substyle of lolita, and counts. if you don't think thats one of the cutest coords ever you can get the hell outta my face.
and I'm not even op. I need it on my body, but in pink or mint

>>7349238
whenever I see this girl on my dashboard, I see that wire behind her, and it just looks like its coming from under her skirt, like a lolita lampshade

>>7349862

>>7349876
They look like the replicas. The original uses a different material and has a totally different texture.

>>7349862
I only have sweet stuff hope it's ok.

>>7349789
Unmatching reds. Not top tier.

>>7349889
She said top tier not bottom of the barrel.

>>7349862
Dream salo.

>>7349834
Those shoes really don't go with that dress.

>>7349896
Yeah they looked like the replicas to me because the originals are a darker, more burgundy I think but I wasn't sure. Thanks!

>>7349474
What print is that JSK? Do want!

>>7349907
I personally think that's one of the best milky planet coords I've seen anon. I don't see anything wrong with it aside from the girl being slightly chubby. Then again I really like fairy kei/sweet Lolita so I'm sure this kind of coord isn't everyone's cup of tea.

>>7349889
It's cute but the random hot pink is really distracting.

>>7349864
Thank you, Helpful shopper person.

>>7349915
Angelic Pretty's Candy Fun Fair

>>7349917
>the wig
>all that stuff in her hair (fucking eyeball bow doesn't go, naked babies why?)
>too many cluttery accessories
>those socks, those fucking socks are probably cutting off circulation, not to mention that one is stained with chocolate and ripped
>more random shit on boots
>random ~kawaii fake animal tail~

this is cluttery enough for fairy kei proper, it's not loltia at all.

>>7349905
She wears that fucking brooch with every god damn outfit.

>>7349248
u look bad bro

>>7349961
Well there's no way it can be a self post.

>>7349487
from the thumbnail, I thought it was some fort of cat kigu

>>7349248
>>7349961
>>7349969
I disagree, I think she looks pretty cute.

>>7349969
You really had to go there, anon.

>>7349433

>>7349933
I just feel like defending my taste here a little bit but I think all the overall nonsensical shit she has on is cute.
I really like the wig, I think it matches and you're right about the socks, they are stained and tight but they match well and aren't ripped. Personally I think a lot of the coords in this thread are too plain and boring to be considered top tier but that's just classic lolita.

>>7350004
>random orange shit on their head
uh

>>7349994
I think the anon I was responding to was trying to imply it was a self post, I was just clarifying.

>>7349385
That is the most adorable thing I've ever seen.

>>7350004
>aren't ripped
There is definitely a rip near the top where the purple and pink are.

The milky planet coord you posted isn't really even lolita.

>>7349419
Honestly? To me this looks like a big mess.

>Horrible wig colour
>too many different shades of pink
>that bag matches in where?
> caplet is too big! puts off colour balance
> that green shirt. Wot.

>>7350077

>>7350094

>>7349889
Anything stained, torn =/= top tier. Liking something is fine, that does not make it well done.
I think it's pretty cute for what it is but it is not top tier Lolita.

>>7349341
I really like this but I did notice some things.

>>7350171
That is nitpicking on a new level, damn

>>7350171
Those things don't really take away from the coordinate much. It could be that the things you pointed out weren't adjusted properly before the photo other than the bodice fit). Coord-wise, just personally, I don't like the belt she's wearing.

>>7349889

This is hiddy.

>>7350171
Uhh, this is what a person looks like when they don't photoshop any minute imperfections out of their photo, dudette. You do know that the brands do that, right? Her bodice being creased is just what a dress looks like when you turn at the waist. Her skirt could stand to be ironed, but, it's entirely possible that it's just due to the texture of the fabric and how it's sewn. Ironing ruffles is maddening. Her stockings look centered to me as well, you're forgetting that she's turned on an angle. You can barely see the underskirt, and she's also elevated, which means that it might not be noticed when standing next to her.

>>7350171
>autism

>>7350180
It's just a critique, not anything mean, wow.

>>7350195
Nah, been tested, just a virgo.

>>7350185
This is likely, they were just things I thought could add to it.

>>7350216
Now I understand why I'm like that then, holy shit I'm not an autist just a virgo

>>7350233
Well if sarcasm, haha but if you are serious, nitpicking is a Virgo trait and mine is evident enough that I did have some tests. No disorder though, just occasionally annoying, fortunately. I point these kinds of things out not because I go looking for them but just because I notice and see them.

>>7350245
No no, no sarcasm at all, I'm a virgo too and I've always been nitpicky but 4chan likes to abuse the word autist... I never really learned what being a virgo meant or could mean but looking now it seems as though that describes me decently well.
Your last sentence is my life in a nutshell.

>>7350245
I hope you don't think having 'an excuse' for a character flaw makes it any better or more excusable especially if you're self-aware that it makes you annoying.

>>7350185
A sash might be prettier and a touch more formal. I assumed the belt was to compliment the shoe color but the style is a little less dressy than the rest of the coordinate.

>>7350245
I hope you don't think your zodiac symbol has any bearing on whether or not you're an annoying piece of shit

>>7350270
This
I can't believe people fall for that bogey crap so readily

>>7350186
Still has over 1k notes on tumblr. That's a lot of people that disagree with you.

>>7350257
It's not annoying if you don't read my posts. I've learned to mostly not to let it annoy people in a situation where it matters but this is hardly that and I did not do it on purpose TO annoy anyone. Others point out what they see, in here, I did too. Problem? Just skip it. I'm not excusing it, mostly I make considerable efforts not to annoy people so I don't feel put down for stating my opinion in a forum or feel it's due to excusing a character flaw. So there you go.

>>7350278
On tumblr, a thousand notes on something "kawaii" is nothing.

>>7350259
IKR, can't unsee x 10000 things daily, haha. But I won't derail any further so here is a lovely salopette coordinate.

Tamie is always perfection

>>7350270
It's happened too often when no harm is intended that I have to smile when someone has a fit about it. Why did it bug you that I critiqued something? No malice, no meanness, I said it was lovely. Bit of an overreaction, I think but if you must then carry on.

>>7350282
>I'm posting anonymously on an imageboard and I expect you to be able to distinguish my bullshit posts without actually reading them
>I'm trying not to be annoying, I really am! And yet here I am, still posting pointless shit
Translating for the people who aren't autistic

>>7350278
Shit tastes delicious to millions of flies but it's still shit

>>7350291
Oh god that typing style.

>>7350292
Translated translated, A case of BIB, bloomers in bunch because annoyed by a 4chan post.

I'm going to post my inspiration folder

>>7350287
The accessories and the sandals are unusual but they look beautiful with the cut of the dress.

>>7350287
this is really ugly.

back to photos....

>>7350312
I respect your opinion.

>>7350317
Dress? Or skirt and blouse? Who is the maker? It's really pretty

>>7349880
found the girl in the pic

It's not lolita, it;s not even not kodnoa or ouji. I'm very interested to know what substyle you think this is

I know there's some complaints as to how this thread is why people think lolitas are bitchy, but seeing all these images has reminded me of how amazing this fashion is and how badly I need to move out of this house so I can wear it and hopefully be at least half as beautiful as these people are. even if I'm deluding myself. sorry I'm not qualified to contribute images, thanks for making this thread and posting pics everyone.

>>7350325
she is brizblossom on tumblr and holy hell her mouth is the most horrible thing I've ever seen.
Anyway, she calls it "sailor kodona"

>>7350322
OP, Bodyline.

>>7350333
She's putting lipstick above her lip line. Gurl, dat aint cute.

>>7350340
I didn't see it there, maybe it's out of stock...

Looks like we just hit the image limit...

>>7349218
Who is this? So lovely.

>>7350322
>>7350340
You can make Bodyline look great but it takes work. She does a great job with this dress.

>>7350365
Someone already answered this in the thread.

>>7350287
The print on the dress really throws the whole thing off. If she couldn't find an Egyptian print of some sort, she should have just gone with a white dress.

>I was really excited too until I noticed the print

>>7350287
That could have been so pretty if it were an Egyptian print.

>>7350171

I can't believe this amount of criticism over stuff that is unbelievably small. Please post yourself in lolita so we can understand what standards we all must live up to

>>7349493
>I can't imagine how hard it is to untangle her hair...
it's probably not as hard as it looks. i mean her hair is knee length and mine is only hip length, but i don't really have many issues with mine.

>>7349433
Every time I see this girl, her face makes me angry.

>>7350576
I like her coords, but she just looks so smug all the time. Uhg

>>7350576
Why?

>>7349518
This is beautifully balanced, shame about the blurry photo though

>>7350585
This. exactly. Usually fatties faces don't bother me but this one does. And her facial expressions only range from "I just smelled a fart" to "I'm so great I'm better than all of you."

>>7349434
not really digging that bonnet... would look cuter with a grey sailor hat. gorgeous photo though

>>7349327
this is all over the place
>where does that crown fit in
>ita style armwarmers
>those shoes, don't see a matching brown, should be darker
>even the fucking background looks awful with the dress
>why the bracelets
>those tights, don't match the print

>>7349241
>peep toe
and with stockings not even socks.
>>7349363
Although it's pretty to look at the more I do the more i dislike it, her boots's ribbon's red doesn't match the rest and she is wearing fishnets for starters
>>7349410
duck girl's otks, why.
>>7349414
mismatching socks why.
>>7349449
Oh yes, tight ringlet curls.
>>7350094
I really love this.

>>7349266
This is just a dress and matching hat?

>>7350625
If I remember correctly, she made the dress and the hat herself.

>>7350330
Meh it's a top tier thread, it's obvious we are going to nitpick.
I personnally prefer classic lolita, but know what make a good gothic or sweet coord, even if I can't pull it off. My standards are super high tought, so even most brand pictures aren't that amazing. I wish I would drop some kg to be perfect (doing sport make me thicker because of muscles, dieting make me sick because of my metabolism), and win the lottery, but that's another thing

Make a new thread for more pictures?

>>7350171
this image needs 2/10 would not bang

>>7350765
Yes please

>>7349419
I love the pink wig and just about everything in this coord.

>>7349257
>>7350171
>being this autistic

>>7350303
Pls be bait. Pls don't. This is ita as shit.

>>7350317
>>7350322
>>7350340
>>7350362
Here it is, L412:
www.bodyline.co.jp/bodyline/showProduct2.asp?id=6609