/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>7340339
Ah, arthael and her sugar momma.

>>7340348
I want a sugar momma, how do I get one of those?

>>7340360
Be attractive and put out.

Someone said this question would be better suited for the general, so I'm posting it here.

I'm wondering if I can wear pic related to Disneyland. Wearing it with a plain brown wavy wig, no gaudy makeup, jewelry, or lenses. I know they sometimes give lolitas a hard time, so I wanted to run this by someone who has possibly gone in lolita, and knows what they pick out. Was thinking about packing my head bow away, and putting it on the park.

>>7340527
I haven't been, but of the loli coords I've seen that make it through are more casual. This might be too princessy.

I have a question about buying/selling.
If you notice there is a defect in a piece after you leave feedback, is it okay to contact the seller with questions, still?
I just noticed something on a piece I bought, and I really don't think there is any way it could have happened at my house.

>>7340527
You will be fine. I wear loli to the park all the time. For your own sake make sure you are wearing comfy shoes.

>>7340527
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eC_7sMVuZg

>>7340527
I've seen more elaborate coords in Japan Disneyland, but in the US it might be a problem. Try packing your petti and accessories away and maybe wear a coat over your dress, and then putting the rest on once you enter the park.

>>7340554
Ehh. On the one hand if you feel the seller has been very receptive and friendly up to that point, it may be worth a try.

But from the seller's POV I really wouldn't look upon this so innocently, it would seem to me like the buyer was having regrets or did something to the item and is panicking to try to get money back for it. Unless the seller did know already, but that's almost certainly unable to be proven.

>>7340532

That's what I was thinking too.

>>7340580

The blouse I'm wearing is even plainer than Lor's, and her head bow is definitely on the Alice-y side. She says to wear prints, but I feel like most of the dresses I have with prints are even louder than what I have.

>>7340582

This sounds like a good idea, but how exactly do I tuck away my petticoat? They do bag checks, and my petti will take up the whole space, won't that be kind of weird?

Thanks for the tips everyone, I'm going for my birthday, so I want this to go as smoothly as possible.

>>7340650
I'd go in wearing the petti. They can hassle you after you enter the park too, so it's best if you're upfront about that since it's a big part of the outfit. Even though Lor has gotten in without problems it's still a bit of a crapshoot as to which employees you'll encounter.
Still I think maybe they've gotten a little more familiar with lolita in general there. Lor and her friends go all the time, plus there was a big meet last year that didn't have problems. If you're with a group of friends or family in normal clothes that could also help you look less like a park employee to other guests.

>>7340676

I'll be attending with my boyfriend, and he sure as hell isn't dressing fancy.

I'll take my chances then, thanks for all the advice everyone.

I've been trying to find reviews on White Moon but have found very little about the brand. I am really in love with this JSK and was curious about cgl's opinion on the quality.

>>7340527
Maybe it's just me, but this looks like such a cumbersome outfit to wear to Disneyland, especially because this dress itself is undiniably princess-y. Why gamble on the chance?

>>7340527
When are you going if I may ask? I'm going on the 12th for my birthday.

I'm a little worried since my JSK has an Alice in Wonderland print on it. Otherwise I may have to ask my friend to loan me her black bodyline jsk.

Can anyone help me find the original shop for this dress? My friend fell in love with it, but the reseller on ebay seems shady. I've dug through taobao blogs to find it, but I've had no luck.

>>7340749
isn't that JetJ's bibliotheque dress that just had a rerelease or some shit?

How's the quality of Miss Pointe on Taobao?

I'm pretty much in love with everything in their shop, and I've got a big order planned.

>>7340527
Why would you even want to wear something like that?

Your wig would get fucked up on rides, it'd be annoying as hell to strap in to anything. And if you're paying all that money to go to disney, and you don't plan on actually going on rides or anything, it seems like a huge waste of money.

>>7340758
No, it's not the same. Probably a design replica of it. Here is the ebay listing with more pictures: http://www.ebay.com/itm/lolita-fairy-Princess-diary-Buckingham-museum-librarian-cosplay-Sleeveless-dress-/400647254154?pt=US_CSA_WC_Dresses&var=&hash=item5d486ff08a

>>7340766
>>7340743

I've worn some Bodyline to DL for Halloween, petti, wig and all, and didn't have a hard time on rides or getting around. You just hold your wig, and adjust it once you get off the ride. The only ride that really did a number on it was space mountain, and that's the most action packed ride I can think of.

This dress is extremely comfortable, and looking at other people that have made it in to DL wearing much brighter sweet coords, I don't think mine is all that excessive, so I'll take my chances. I think the coat and bringing in the head bow and petti separately will help too.

>>7340748

Going on the 8th, sorry anon.

>>7340348
Are they really a couple?

>>7340783
I usually have wig clips inside my wig to keep it on, and I haven't ever had a problem with it flying off or anything. Then again I have thick hair, so maybe that helps.
I've gotten into the park numerous times wearing a petticoat and a headbow, so I think you should be okay wearing them both in. I think as long as you don't make a coord that looks like an existing cast member or face character you'll be fine.

>>7340749
I think someone posted this in an aliexpress thread recently?

Has anybody with KL or MC ever had this with their lace? I don't understand how this could have happened to my long MC skirt and I'm wondering if I received it like this but never noticed. Otherwise, does anybody know how this could have happened?

>>7340946
How weird. Looks like a manufacturing error, I can't imagine how else that could happen to lace.

>>7340749
>>7340758
Nah, that's the Dream of Lolita library print.

>>7340946
Isn't it water soluble or something?

>>7340625
The thing is, I am pretty sure the spot is visible now in the proof photo, but it's very small, is not highlighted in the photo, and was not mentioned, so I would never have caught it if I wasn't looking

>>7340946
I have the opposite, little bits of extra lace attached at the edges of some pieces of lace. Seems like a manufacturing error for sure.

>>7340766
Rode space mountain in AP, no regrets

I just received KL's jellyfish dress, but the petticoat that I have is way too short for it. Are there any "quick fixes" for a problem like this?
I don't really have a lot of time so I don't think anything online would make it to me in time.

I have an a-line petti from Classical Puppets and when I pull it down to fill out the bottom of the dress, it just looks like I have a big butt or something.
I was thinking of just going to hot topic or the thrift store or something to find some cheap one to wear on top to fill the top half but I don't know how well that would work.

>>7341271
Was it in Milky Planet? Please say yes

>>7341283
is it the long version? as far as I know the skirt is just a gathered rectangle skirt, so it should need a cupcake, have you tried one?

>>7341291
Oop, sorry, I didn't specify but it's actually the short navy OP if that makes a difference? Would cupcake be a more suitable shape for it?

>>7341297
eh it's kind of a mix of both... like it's not a straight up a-line and it's not a super bell shaped cupcake.

I have the long JSK and I have to wear my malco modes petti unaltered with a light petti layered on top to give the right shape.

I don't know what's going to work best for you unfortunately as the cut is slightly 'weird' looking no matter what, but layering is going to be your best option I think no matter what.

>>7340978
>>7341266
Yeah, I figured it had to be a manufacturing error. I feel like I wish I noticed it earlier so I could contact KL in hopes of some kind of retribution but it feels like it's been too long now... I'm glad it's inconspicuous.

>>7341187
Is this quoting the wrong post?

>>7341334
I heard that KL used water soluble lace.

>>7341187
>>7341266
It's chemical lace (or 'water soluble' in Chinese), meaning they machine embroider the pattern onto a material that is then chemically removed in a wash, so it must be a production error. I doubt you can get a new dress but maybe a free length of lace mailed to you to fix it?

>>7341283
Haha, soul animal. I just got mine in the mail a couple days ago and the length + shape is a bit weird. You're gonna want a cupcake petti worn low down on your hips, I have the Classical Puppets violent cupcake one and it looks great. Maybe layering a cheap shorter one on top of your A-line will work, but the A line def looks strange.

So, I have a vacation planned to Disney World and I was wondering what kind of shoes do you recommend: Flats or tea parties?
Also, would I really be kicked out for wearing lolita, or is that an exaggeration?

Does mbok work like ebay where you can enter your max bid and it'll autobid for you until your max is reached by the minimum increment? Or do you have to manually bid every time?

Did any of you read the Guro thread? >>340833

Some girls were talking about different ways of styling Guro, so that it actually looks nice. There are a ton of accessories they shared along with the few coords that made it into the thread, and I find the talk interesting. Does anyone have thoughts on it? I would actually really like to see Guro become something that people don't look down on.

>>7341676
Oops, meant to link >>7340833

>>7341663
Neither, I wore trainers. You can be asked to change if employees think your outfit looks too much like a costume, so yes, you can possibly not be allowed in/asked to change or leave.

I reserved Claudia yesterday, but I'm not sure if I can afford to get it anymore, due to financial issues. I see that other people are selling off their reserve for the item; how would I go about doing this?

How do I wash dresses with pearls on them? I know the rest of the dress is fine to just toss in the washer, but it has 2 pearl strings on it that aren't detachable I'm worried about breaking. pic related

>>7341732
Hand wash it or put it in a fine mesh bag on a delicate/wool cycle

>>7341738
thank you

To the anon recently looking for that OzzAngelo Jacket and Gillet set, I have found it in black for you:
http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g129926410

Sorry that I couldn't find your original post.

I asked this girl if she wanted to do a trade with me, and she agreed. But she's requesting to do it in the most bizarre way possible

>send me an invoice for the dress and include the tracking # on PP
>once I receive the dress, I'll invoice you. use the money I sent you in the previous invoice and I'll include the tracking # on PP as well

Why can't we just mail the dresses out at the same time?? Has anyone ever done this before? It seems like she'll just run off with my dress and she won't do her end of the bargain

>>7341663

you will be doing a lot of walking. wear whatever will be most comfortable for you.

>>7341908
She will, don't do it.

>>7341908
oh, i think i saw this kind of method talked about either on here or on lse a while ago; it's to try and make it so there's less scamming when trading. she'll pay you a set amount for the dress, and then you'll send it. that way if you end up flaking, she can pull the money via claim. if it arrives safely, she'll invoice you the same amount, then after it's paid she'll send her side of the trade out. this way if she fails to send, you can get the cash back through paypal claim. obviously, the set amount of money you agree to send to each other has to be able to cover the cost of the dress completely.

>>7341908
I have never done it that way before. With trades that require and invoice, usually you agree on a shipping day, invoice each other at the same time for the same agreed amount, add tracking, and if one of you doesn't get a tracking number then you can claim the value of the invoice back. It also stops one party being out of pocket.

>>7341908
Hi I think you're dealing with me (I'm from lse on Facebook). I normally do trades with this method >>7341947 but since you didn't want to put in money/deposit/whatever you want to call it (since neither of us will be losing or gaining anything in the end), I offered another solution where I'd be the only one putting money forward. I'm sorry if my explanation was confusing! I am in no means trying to scam you, but I do want to be protected as well.

If we mailed the dress out on the same day, what would happen if one person was dishonest and never sent there's out? You can't get the dress back through PayPal and you can't file a claim on a transaction that had no cash value to it.

I hope that made sense!

>>7341968
*theirs oops

>>7341968
I would cancel the whole thing if I were you. It isn't worth dealing with a bitch who comes onto /cgl/ to accuse you of potentially scamming. It won't turn out well.

>>7341674
Pretty sure you have to do it automatically. I've never seen any sort of option for a max bid, unfortunately.

>>7342046
Don't listen to this person, they don't know how auction sites work.

THEY ALL WORK THE SAME.

if the current bid is 8000 and you want to bid 20,000, you put that in and it will automatically go up and over the current bidder's max and stop there, or if the current bidder's max is higher it will go up to your max and show that your bid wasn't high enough.

All auction sites in Japan are "like eBay"

Secrets are up quite a bit of Australian drama for such a small amount of secrets.

>>7342124
Probably self-posts.

>>7341968
Ahh I see, you weren't offering up full value invoices. I've done it where we both agreed our dresses were worth about $200 so we both invoiced each other for the same amount, both paid, and then both had the option of claiming back if the item was never sent or the tracking number was false.

lol at number secret 10 getting their knickers in a twist over people calling out bronies.
fuck bronies.

>>7341973
OP wasn't accusing her, she just came on to clarify the method with us.
Sandy day, huh?

Does anyone know if Closet Child restocks their Chocomint stuff? The Chocomint Rakuten is closed, and CC is the only place I know where to order their stuff. I've been watching the past month and they haven't restocked yet

>>7340992
Thanks! It's too bad, since they seem pretty hit or miss.

>>7342067
Cool, thanks

does anyone own the briar jsk I and would be willing to take pictures of the ruffles along the bottom? i've been wanting a good picture of them, but the only non-stock picture i've seen of jsk I had really bad lighting.

also, is the bow at the front removable?

Does anyone know how warm DreamV's coats are? I'm debating getting one.

I recently got a new dress and it's wrinkled as fuck. I don't want to iron it since the material looks really cheap and thin and I'm scared that it'll ruin the print. What other methods are there to get wrinkles out of a dress without damaging it?

>>7343853
Steamer.

>>7343853
>>7343869
I've heard of people hanging dresses up in their bathroom and taking a hot shower with the door closed to get wrinkles out! Might be an option.

>>7343880
This is true, but it needs to be thinner material. For example, it didn't do anything to Bodyline since that's stiff as hecky.

I also sometimes just take febreze and spray things to death when they are wrinkly and then let it air dry

good smell and gets it a bit less wrinkly

IW FINALLY responded to my order last Tuesday by sending me an invoice. I paid it. So how long until they ship out?

>>7341663
As long as you don't look like one of the princesses you're golden. I went during a ticketed event, so they're a bit more lenient at those.

>>7341290
It was -puts on sunglasses- Twinkle Ornament

>>7340527
...I swear I was sober when I posted my question about Disney. I didn't even see this. Sorry guys! Carry on…

Anyone else have a lot of trouble finding nice blouses? I really want some chiffon blouses especially but I never see any brand ones secondhand, they're always sold out brand new, and popular offbrand choices like dear celine always seem to be sold out as well.

Any custom indie suggestions?

>>7343982
seconding this question, but for cotton blouses. I sweat like a pig in anything that's not cotton.

>>7343982
Yeah. It's basically super difficult to find anything that isn't like, solid white or black cotton.

>>7343992
Really? They're everywhere. You can pick up cheap secondhand white or black Baby/AATP and IW blouses basically anywhere... Check mbok and yahoo auctions a lot.

>>7344374
>>7343982
The floral notebook on Facebook has some pretty nice chiffon blouses

>>7344400
i would second this! the seller is really nice and helpful. she might take a day or two to get back to you if you PM her while she's offline (she's in Vietnam and a student) but she's reliable in my experience and will customize any of her pre-made designs at your request. she sews each order herself, so the making time is generally one to two weeks in my experience.

the blouses i've received for her have always been nicely made; no loose ends, sewing mistakes, or tears. i can't compare it to brand quality, but for an indie brand they're impressive imo.

>>7343982
Same here. Besides I live in this hot like hell place and I can not wear long sleeves so it doubles the difficulty of my search.

I'm almost considering replicas.

http://www.metamorphose.gr.jp/category/select/pid/9849

To all those that loved Die Walkure... (you'll need a SS)

New to lolita, why is it looked down upon to wear waist bows at the collar of your blouse?
I mean, as long as it's not an obnoxiously big bow that eats my neck, is it okay?

>>7344699
I've never heard this before. Who told you that?

>>7341472
>>7341614
Oh, I see! I hadn't heard of this water soluble lace before. I'll try contacting KL and see if they can send me just a little so I can fix it. Thanks!

>>7344699
Usually they are too heavy to stay upright and end up droopy and sad. Generally this look is worn by Bodyline noobs and the BL bows are kind of sad to begin with. This also applies to those same girls trying to stick the sad flat BL bows on top of their heads like a headbow and it not sitting correctly.
The above is to answer your question. The good news is that it is possible to make it look good, but you have to take things like size/ proportions/ angle/ bow depth (poofiness) which is tricky.

"Lovely dolly dresses."

>>7345194
What are you on about?

>>7343888
Maybe a week or so? Usually it goes a bit faster after you've paid and they've secured your items for you.

Am I the only one who cringes intensely whenever self-proclaimed "nymphets" on tumblr discuss lolita fashion? It really rubs me the wrong way.

>>7345256
All these "nymphet" girls are always old as fuck. Like grown-ass women.

>>7345256
Absolutely disgusting

>>7343818
I have http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/dreamv/item/512676/ and it is just as warm as my usual wool coats.
Would not go out in a snowstorm in it without layers, but it is nice.

>>7343927
lexi I love you.

>>7345256
I don't get why lolita fashion would appeal to self-proclaimed nymphets. aren't they trying to look like sexualized little girls? lolita fashion looks innocent and resembles historical children's clothing, but nothing about it looks sexual. do they just like it because it's called lolita?

Sorry for the newb question, I just couldn't find an answer on my SS's website (I'm using FromJapan for a yahoo auction).

I know basically most auctions require use of the self introduction column. Going through the bidding app on FJ's site, how will I be able to get the introduction aspect done? Will they do it for me once I launch my bid or do I need to contact them to let them know to do it?

>>7345964
I think they do it. I've always just ignored it and bid anyway.

I run a lolita advice blog and so far I've just been giving coord advice, but I'd like to add a little variety and more draw to the blog, what things would interest you, especially if you were a newish or inexperienced lolita, or what do you wish you knew early on? I've been queuing up some tutorials (nothing you guys probably haven't seen) but I'm at a loss for what else I could add to it. Maybe posts about dealing with anon hate and planning meets and such?

>>7345265
It's more disturbing when it is an actual young girl anon, and illegal...in some cases.

>>7343982
Elegy Clothing. I think she may actually have a chiffon blouse on her site now. If not, she does custom. I have a few things from her and the quality is great.

>>7345566
They wouldn't wear a full coord but the overall look appeals to them. Such as the miniskirts and prints.
For the general idea, think of how Dakota has altered brand JSKs.

>>7346109
Hopefully teaching the art of humility.
When a lot of girls begin Lolita they think they're the hottest shit and that nothing can touch them. The best advice they can learn is to not get ahead of themselves and to look up to the older community members for advice.

>>7346149
Haha, well so far I've only had one person do the "ITS MY STYYYYYYYYLE" shit on me, hopefully I can keep that number low. Then again, I try not to touch the true trainwreck itas, because I'd feel bad saying basically "your entire outfit is terrible and it all needs to go in the trash" like I want to. I try to only nitpick people who have the right idea, but need a little help with execution.

>>7346161
But WHY do they always pull the 'this is REAL lolita, not brand whore rubbish' card?

>>7346308
Because criticism puts them on the defensive and the way that they can cope is to disguise their resentment behind persecution. Plus, they're probably young and seeking a non-conformist fashion. Thus, discovering that their special frilly fairy fashion actually has guidelines to define it turns it into just another popular-kid hobby.

Take a look at their blogs sometime, and count how many anti-prep or anti-mainstream rants there are. There's usually a correlation.

>>7346109
>anon hate and planning meets and such
please no.
they'll start getting in to the dramu before even dressing well. just focus on dressing well, don't worry if you repeat content over. you can queue some interesting dresses suitable for new lolitas, nice worn outfits etc. tell them straight when their outfits are bad, don't be like lolita-tips.

difficult to teach newbies on hugboxes like tumblr though.

>>7346331
I don't see how planning meets = dramu, but thank you for the input! I'll queue up some cool indie shops like Lady Sloth that is affordable to newbies while not being... like Sky Creations or something.

>>7346377
Sky Creations?

>>7346553
Etsy store with terribad "wa-lolita" crap like pic related. Google it if you need a good laugh.
They have a strange aversion to using matching thread for their topstitching.

>>7345975
I thought they'll reject the bid if you don't, though? Have you always been able to bid anyway?

>>7346562
I JUST CRIED. That's awful.

>>7346849
I think she means you don't specifically have to write anything yourself for the introduction, and it's probably better that way, the bidding service will take care of it if necessary.

>>7346109
Bodyline OP/skirts that are decent quality with good coord examples (you could make a photoset and tag it in a series?)

Pick a brand and learn the basics about it so you have something to talk about it at a meetup as a n00b?

Reminding people about seasonal sales from brands to dispel the myth that brand is beyond the budget of some lolitas? Like compare/contrast list prices with sale prices; offer a link to another post where you go into more advanced "saving money" tips with mbok/y!j/ss.

Learning to be honest with yourself. There's the 'I'm awesome in lolita and fuck anyone else's opinion' and 'I feel great that I'm wearing lolita but does this look appropriate for the fashion and its high standards?' attitudes.

>>7345964
Ignore what everyone said and will say. I've been bidding on mbok for years and I am near fluent in Japanese, so I am not using google translate to try and wade through stuff.

It isn't that auctions require a self introduction (this had to have come from bad google translate or misinformation). The issue is that a lot of sellers don't like it if a bidder's profile is totally blank with no self-introduction/basic explanation of their terms of sale and buying. To sellers, it makes them feel uneasy that the bidder may be a troll driving up the price with no intention to buy.

Here is an example of a person with "no self introduction" on her profile. Most sellers would delete her bid because of this. http://www.mbok.jp/_u?u=7139254

I don't know where people got the idea that you have to use the "ask the seller a question" form on mbok and write out a self-introduction there for every auction you want to bid on. If you need to ask the seller a question about the item condition, measurements, additional photos, a buy it now price, et cetera, that's what the question form is for.

Some sellers do have it in their terms that if you have any negative/neutral feedback, want to use a particular payment method, etc the list goes on... that you need to contact them via the question form first and get permission to bid.

>>7346885
Oh ok, thank you!

>>7346924
Oh wow, this makes a whole lot more sense... thank you for the info! I thought it was just a nicety/culture convention that carried over to the sales realm, since it's been mentioned that a lot of Japanese lolitas don't want to sell to men/foreigners.

>>7347066
Many don't want to sell to men because creepy fetish weirdos, and some don't want to sell to foreigners either because they had a bad experience with a shopping service in the past *coughcelgacough* so they simply say no foreigners period, or they get people who can't speak a lick of Japanese, like Yunni. Those are the big reasons.

A lot of big company-run shopping services have awful manners and are very demanding. I mentioned Celga because they are particularly horrid.

>>7347078
I use Celga most of the time, and I don't really have any issues with them (besides fees). Who should I be using instead?

>>7347241
It's not you who would have the issues, it's the auction sellers who have to deal with Celga's atrocious behavior.

>>7347255
Oh geez, deets please. I use Celga a lot and recently one of my bids was rejected. I brushed it off but if Celga is known to be a shitty buyer I'll have to find another SS.

>>7347293
They don't read the seller's terms of sale at all. If you ask them to bid they just go do it without checking anything. This leads to Celga requesting shipment/payment methods the seller doesn't accept.

The worst part is that Celga will win an auction and immediately contact the seller and demand they turn off their spam filter to allow PC addresses (most mbok auctions take place through communication via cell phone email) and then they demand that the seller send them an email with all of the auction details.

It's terribly rude and obnoxious.

Is it really very frowned upon to bring your SO to a meet? I'm extra spaghetti and feel the most comfortable in situations like that when I have someone I know with me. My SO isn't super into the fashion, but he's far less awkward than I am and would probably be more social than me regardless.
Would it also be bad to instead bring a friend who is interested in the fashion but is not in lolita/possibly dressed ita?

>>7347488
I think it depends on the formality of the meet (for both, but especially in the case of a friend) and the arrangement. If it's a ticketed or limited space meet then I would say no unless there's not enough people to fill the space, same for if it's your comm's one or few big, extremely formal events like a hotel tea or something expensive like that. But for casual meets, I don't think this is a problem.

>>7347488
Uh I'm pretty sure lots of girls are spaghetti at meets, they just learn to deal with it themselves. Learn to do normal things without your SO.

>>7347488
>>7347622
I've got pretty much the same response for you. If you're really that nervous, have him drive you/drop you off, but clinging to him for the meet-up isn't going to make you any friends or allow you to become comfortable in the group. It's just going to create a gap between you and the other comm members, because he's there and that creates an instant barrier, no matter how supportive, nice or understanding he may be.

>>7347488
its frowned upon you can't make yourself do shit without shoehorning your bf to things he's not a part of to do the talking for you

I'm pretty new to lolita and I'm having trouble deciding what kind of petti to wear with this dress. I got it today and tried it on with the one I have, which is more bell shaped, and it just looked odd. Would an A line be more appropriate?

>>7347675
yes aline

Does EGA count around here? Are you peop--seagulls going to peck my eyes out?

>>7347707
in terms of the entirety of CGL "cosplay Gothic and lolita" apply so you're welcome but even then we talk about other jfashion as well... so go ahead. make s thread . this one is just for lolita unfortunately

WTF is with all these noob posts on egl lately? I mean, there's always a few occasionally, but this is just... yuck.

>>7347738
Thank you for leaving my eyes intact and for the info.

>>7347488
>I'm extra spaghetti
What... does this even mean?

If this is how you try to communicate, I don't think wondering if you can bring your S/O is what you should be worrying about right now.

>>7347756
You must be new here.

>>7347766
I hate how this socially awkward way of speaking is considered acceptable nowadays. If I had a dime for every time new lolitas say things like "All my feels" at our meets I would be one rich bitch.

>>7347777
Sorry grandma, does all that internet slang the kids throw around these days upset you that much?

>>7347756
its a phrase

from 4chan

>>7347777
tumblr fuck off pls

>>7347777

>>7347488
Unless SO or friend dresses for and is into the fashion or related one, (EGA, Dandy at least, etc.) or it's some kind of out of town thing you'd travel to together, and the hostess oks it, I'd say don't bring them. The meet focus is Lolita, right? It's your time to blossom with new friends. Take the chance.

>>7347777

>>7347795
Not the grandma you were talking to but I do think it sounds less than great as well. Whatever happened to overcoming your awkward and learning some social graces? I don't serve spaghetti at tea, I don't expect you to bring it. Feels or no.

>>7347795
It's tumblr that talks like that.

>>7347777
My coworkers say stuff like this all the time. Meme speak, all ma feels, all that shit. They sound so stupid the second embarrassment hurts.

My coworkers.

>>7347982
>>7348013
>ITT: not getting the point
>>7347815

Anyone have any cute pictures of Lolitas with floral hair accessories? I'm trying to get inspiration for a coord.

>>7348033
That some people say irl. Which is awkward. Hello? Did you miss this point?
>Captcha: and assraft

>>7348055
That isn't remotely what the original comment grandma there was replying to was about, though.

She just... used a 4chan-derived phrase on 4chan. Wowee, shocking.

Can anybody recommend some darker pink blouses? I got the skirt in pic related recently and I'm having a hell of a time finding a blouse that matches nicely. Pink isn't as pale as photos would have you think, red isn't quite as prominent... I'd just do black but I'd planned to have a black bustier to go with it and I don't wanna give up on that just yet.

>>7348183
I think I actually found some hot pink items on the metamorphose tag on either yahoo auctions or mbok today, is that the kind of dark pink you want? Or more of a dusty?

So it is a fashion?

>>7348187
I would say more dusty than hot pink? It's a very cool pink, I'd say.

>>7348183
Hey anon, I'm trying to find some blouses like that too... (I'm the anon over here >>7344488, is pic related around the pallet you're looking for as well?) I've been looking through brand sites/lolibrary etc to see if that kind of color exists, and I honestly can't even find anything in this shade. It's driving me nuts.

If you find something offbrand or otherwise, I'd appreciate a link too, and I'll do the same! I imagine this orchid pink color must exist somewhere, but I haven't found anything on ebay, aliexpress, secondhand sites, etc.

>>7348246
Yep, those look like the colors. Glad to know I'm not the only one going insane though! I'll be sure to post if I come across something.

Damn you Baby with your weird shades of pink.

>>7348246
>>7348250
They're really inconsistent with their colours. Drives me nuts. I have accessories from them in three shades of red and at least that many varied shades of navy.

For those who haven't seen, ODIP has permanently closed the Adelaide shop. Word is however, she will be putting some things back up on her website.

Hey gulls, what are your favorite winter meetup ideas? I wanted to plan one, but would rather do something after going out to eat. We've already been skating, and I'm not sure what I should do next.

My local comm is doing a valentines day meet and the host wants people to wear sweet with valentines day colors
>mfw no sweet in wardrobe

Do you think red/wine would suffice? I don't want to piss her off

>>7348712
Its retarded she expects you to buy a whole set of clothes for one event.
Your best options:
First see if you can borrow a girls dress.
Second, see if the owner will let red+black be.
Three, if no go then no show unfortunately :/ Maybe host your own classic/gothic/etc meet. I hope it doesnt get that tedious for you tho

>>7348716
>I don't have sweet prints unfortunately :( But I do have classic dresses in red and wine! Would that be okay to wear?
>Aww ^^; I would really prefer sweet pink/red coords to match the theme and for everyone to look cohesive... Maybe one of the girls can let you borrow a dress?

Looks like option 1/3 for me. There aren't enough classic/gothic lolitas in my community to host a separate evenly unfortunately

>>7348730
>Red and wine
>Not Valentines' as fuck
>Not going in a darker classic co-ord anyway and seducing the ladies with your passionate style

>>7348609

What Indie brand does ODIP work with? There's Ergi, Rouge Aerie Designs, Lief, clockwork butterly. Others?

>>7348730
Is there a red dress you can sweeten up a bit? Coord with white, maybe?

>>7348679
Go snowboarding.
Like Mr Yan.

>>7348730
What a control freak, we have themed meets sometimes but they're always very "do it if you want but we won't care if you show up in something else". One girl posted a meet recently that said "I know this is pretty obvious but can everyone please stick to the Lolita only dress code. Subsets like dandy and what not are ok. And, boyfriends/chaperons can (as usual) wear what they like." and I thought even that sounded a little bossy... like it's implied that everyone will show up in lolita (or related subsets), we've never had an issue with someone not. Why even mention it?

>>7348761
Maybe there was a sudden influx of newbies and they wanted to be clear about dress code?

>>7348730
How bossy. That's way to far reaching for a theme anyway, everybody should be able to interpret Valentine's Day within their own preferred style, that would be a lot more diverse and interestng. You really can't insist that classic/gothic girls wear sweet and still believe that lolita is "not a costume".

>>7348807
>You really can't insist that classic/gothic girls wear sweet and still believe that lolita is "not a costume".

This, holy shit. I hare how some sweet lolitas seem super bossy and act like their style is the greatest one ever and classic/gothic are inferior. One of the hosts of my local con's fashion show said only sweet lolis could enter because classic/gothic were too costumey. Right.

>>7348712
Wear all black with anatomical heart brooch pinned to sleeve. Tell her that IS sweet.

>>7348761
It's odd she'd mention it if there hasn't been an issue. Usually that kind of thing is triggered by something.

>>7348730
Just be like, Sorry I can't go, since I don't have any sweet lolita! Have fun with your event!

Make her look like the dick.

>>7348730
Wine should be fine, it IS red.

>>7348814
What the hell is she smoking lol

>>7348730
Just show up in wine anyway, what is she gonna do, kick you out?

>>7348873
(not the OP but I recognize this comm)
The only times I can recall anyone not wearing Lolita, or at least attempting it enough to fit in, is at con tea parties. Which, this is not. It's a casual, last minute meetup for tea. I'm inclined to think it's just another way the organizer can single out fat girls and Itas and tell them to take their asses home because she wants to make some stupid video ala deerstalker.

>>7348996
She specifically said sweet red coords so a wine classic dress won't work.

>>7348761
Yeah, it should be a given that not everyone owns clothes in a particular style and excluding them is pretty lame.
Now if you want to have style/theme specific group photos at the meet that's another thing. I think most people will be understanding and not get butthurt if you want to take some pics with just the theme participants. But saying other styles can't attend the meet at all is just stupid. There's few enough lolitas to begin with. Wouldn't you want the most people possible to attend and make your meet a success? In a perfect world where everyone has a huge wardrobe containing every style, sure, the idea of a cohesive meetup like that is cool, but it's just not realistic. Everybody should be able to wear what they're comfortable in and have a good time.

>>7349733
It reminds me how Fairytale Boutique hosts their events. Pretty much anybody can go, but if you want to be in their coord contests, then you have to fit into the theme.

How long does it usually take for Baby to ship? Do they usually reply to your payment confirmation with a tracking number?

>>7349671
Dont the fat girls and itas stick to the dress code though if everyone is already wearing lolita? ~confused~
>Would she really send someone home? Would the others let her? Wow.

>>7348712
Your host is an idiot.

>>7349733
This.

Just came across this on tumblr, not sure whether to facepalm or slap this person.

I've wanted to get into loli for a long time, but I'm worried my measurements are wrong for it. I have big hips and a high waist, and most dresses I try to wear make my waist totally disappear and I look super frumpy. I'm also pretty tall, so I worry that if I buy dresses that are the right length, they will be too large for me. My measurements are 36-29-39 and I'm 5'8", is there any style/brand that would work for me, or am I just too big?

>>7349863
You're fine. You might be a bit tall for some newer AP and I think older Moitie? but your bust/waist is perfectly within brand range.

hi i just bought this dress and wondering if it could work in a casual loli coord?
thank you kindly

>>7349993
Doesn't look long enough.

>>7349993
Doubt it, apart from the length it just doesn't look like it can hold a petticoat.

>>7349863
Sift through Hello Lace and Lolibrary looking at measurements and then check carefully before you buy things. Find some Lolita on the web with similar body shape and see what they wear.

Very new and confused, so I am sorry if this is stupid and uninformed. Is Infanta okay to buy from and is the attached dress a replica?

>>7350198
Infanta is perfectly fine to buy from, and this isn't a replica, but a similar snow white inspired dress.

I've never sold or traded anything before. What would be the going rate for a ivory chiffon blouse bought directly from AP, worn once?
It seems to be sold out online

>>7350237

Don't sell it right now anon. Wait for it to warm up, people will pay a lot more in Summer.

So I'm thinking of making a Dream V order through an SS as opposed to going through their intl. site because their shipping cost is pretty expensive for my smallish order.
Atm it looks like it would be cheaper to use an SS (I normally go through FromJapan) but I don't if it's a stupid idea or not (extra hassling around, DreamV might cancel the order when they see it's an SS.)

Any advice?

>>7350258
Alright, thanks I'm in Aus so it's already summer here. I was kind of thinking of doing a trade. I'm more classic and this blouse just doesn't fit in my wardrobe, but I guess it would be hard to find someone to trade a sweet blouse with a classic.

>>7349733
This.

I think OP should ask to borrow a dress in the Facebook group or event or wherever the talk goes, and mention that you don't have any sweet, but you had wine and such, and mention that the hostess wouldn't let you wear it. Then watch as other girls say that's stupid just like us. Host will feel guilty and want to make up for it, and say you can go in wine.

>>7349747
My comm does ours the same way--you can wear whatever you want, but if you want to be in the coordinate contest it has to fit the theme. And we've never specified a specific style, that's just dumb.

I really like the new egl theme this month. Anyone else?

>>7350492
I did, until I went to join in and realized that the last person (the person I'd be replying to) linked a gallery with a grand total of two dresses, no blouses, and a bunch of pastel vomit wigs.

>>7350492
>>7350494
Ohhey. And more people have posted since then.

>>7350494

I saw that one and thought...oh I'm going to wait until someone else makes a post. You could always just do two people?

>>7350520
True on both counts!

Can anyone recommend a shopping service for Closet Child in Shinjuku?

>>7350492
I think it's a fun one! If all goes well I think it will probably be a good step towards getting the online community acting more like a community, if you know what I mean.

And I think that, even if you partner with someone with a less-than-stellar wardrobe, if you make outfits for people other than your partner you'll probably get a few coords in return. I know I intend on returning the favour.

Are we in autosage?
Anyway, I'm attending this meeting in a couple if days. We're a recent and very small group. So basically we're just dressing up and going out for tea. Which is nice but I wanted to do something else in case it gets a little boring. So I bought some stuff and I wanted to give it as a prize in a game or something. What I really want to know is: what games can we play in a high tea room, with 5 to 6 girls?

How do I wear a soft bonnet without looking like a 100 pound baby

>>7351106
protip: You can't.

>>7351106
flowers?

>>7351119
Don't give up on me now anon

>>7351106
Would be easier if it weren't those colours....

Maybe if you do your makeup a little differently to look more mature? Also contouring so you don't have a chubby baby face

Does anyone have worn/coordinated photos of the Little Dipper skirts? I've wanted one for so long, but now that I'm about ready to order, I can't remember why I wanted one or figure out which color to get.

>>7351065
20 questions
Carnelli
Six degrees of Kevin Bacon
Telephone

>>7351106
Match to shoes and bag in stronger accent color
Bolder makeup
More grown up everything else, shoes, accessories, etc
Gothic
Black or red or jewel tone bonnet instead of pastel.

Say, are there any Classical Puppet dress reviews out there? If there's some I overlooked in obvious places, that'll be embarrassing for me, but I just can't find anything beyond a thousand petticoat reviews that all just say fluff floof fluff.

http://lolitas.taobao.com/
Anyone evr bought from this taobao store? I can't seem to find their items through an agent either though? Forgive me, I'm kind of a taobao noob.

>see a sale item I want on AP USA
>add to cart
>shipping and tax added on next page
>almost as much as buying new from Japan

fffffffff

Are there any japanese shopping services that are willing to mark the package as a gift?

>>7352253
From Japan will mark packages as gifts. They also appear to allow you to choose declaration value of each item, at your own risk? I've never bothered, because customs is quite lax where I live.

>>7351292
This girl has a good review! http://aliceartemisia.tumblr.com/post/73814301039/little-dipper-underskirts-and-classical-puppet-a-line

>>7351978
I hate how AP USA lies about shipping costs. I know how the USPS flatrate boxes work and they charge almost triple! I have a feeling it's so that they can charge ~everyone~ similar prices, since USPS flatrate international is pretty high.

>>7351804
I have one of their gothic/non lolita pieces (the regency-esque dress they released a while back) and it's quite lovely. Their quality on construction is as good as on the petticoats. The only problem I had is that the skirt is a bit see-through, because the skirt isn't lined, due to its shape. A fact which was visible in the stock photos and I ignored. It doesn't seem that any of their other pieces don't suffer from this?

>>7352487
Oh that poor girl really needs a better bra. with a clingy shirt like that plus the bad support it makes her look like a sad substitute english teacher.

>>7352487
Those underskirts look so nice, wow.

Hey guys, I'm reaching out here since more people check cgl more often than egl. I was wondering if you guys could help me fill out an unofficial "Lolita Community Directory"? I'm missing out on European and Asian countries and a couple of states from the US.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Anw4aY5HpSLMdFU2UjZjZ0t2Z0I3RXZtemhkSWlMamc#gid=1

Please reply to my throwaway email with the comm & link and your name/nickname for credit on the contact page. I'll probably post this on EGL once it's more complete!

>>7352492
They tell you that they add handling fees and that small item purchases aren't cost effective for shipping.

>>7352500
Ah, thank you! That takes some worry off my shoulders. I ordered their Royal Carousel OP a while back under the assumption that it'd be as well constructed as their petticoats are, and hey, I guess I assumed right.

>>7352492
Well the actual shipping for me is $12 + $5 insurance which isn't overcharging as far as I can tell. It's the $50 sales tax on top of that that's killing me (also the thought of giving Lynda money, but that's another story).

I wish AP's Japanese site would just ship overseas directly. If tiny brands like Chantilly can manage it, surely they can. Unfortunately they just don't give a hoot.

And on an unrelated note, I tried listening to Amoyamo and found it disappointingly bland. Amo should go back into lolita modeling; she was one of my favorites.

>>7352798

The English version of AP's Japanese site does ship oversea's, or it did two years ago. I bought the last Lyrical Bunny accessories lucky pack from there because it was all sold out every where else. I believe I got it within a week.

>>7352824
There is no English version of the Japanese site, you're thinking of the international site which is separate. It only carries select items (and then usually just one of each, unless there's a later re-stock), and only ships outside of Japan.

>>7352864
Both AP USA and AP international have limited stock, AP USA tends to have even more limited stock honestly. Both of them ship internationally, but AP USA can ship to Japan.

so im 5'1", 99lbs, so my waist is 24 or less (skinny fat as fuck)
anyone with similar measure? i dont own any brand. what fits?
i've looked at some btssb jsks which put waist as 70cm-90cm ??

>>7352961
Older-mid AATP/Baby should fit you well, and older Moitie, MM, and VM. You'll want to look at skirts, they tend to have a smaller waist than dresses.

>>7352983
thanks kind anon

>>7352492
They give a BS excuse, but really it's just to give them extra money to line their pockets.

>>7353305
This just sounds like petty sour grapes because the shipping pushed your small order out of your budget, honestly.

>>7353426
Not that anon, but I agree that it is really annoying to pay $22 in shipping for your order to be shoved into a (free) usps 12.95 flat rate box.

>>7353305
The owner is really shady, so I don't doubt that for a second. There's a bunch of bad reviews of her old business (starry candy box or something?) on GTFO or EGL or something, and she's just generally really creepy and vocal about hating unions and loving guns.

>>7351890
This store has a lot of the same stuff as boguta.taobao.com (maybe they're partnered? I have a blouse of theirs and the tag has both store urls on it), try searching 'boguta' for some reviews

>>7353435
Then bundle your ordering together for a better rate? They address it on the site and shipping is even more to order from the international site and they charge handling fees as well. From what I understand, shipping is expensive from most major brands and most charge a handling fee and don't offer budget shipping. I'm not trying to talk you out of bring annoyed or defend them but if they are the ones that have what you want then you really don't have many other options. Buy item or sit and be annoyed without it. Wait to see if you can buy off the sales comm used, maybe?

>>7340339
tfw no lolita gf

>>7352483

I'm looking for one for mbok specifiaclly and I don't it mentioned on their site. Do they bid on there too?
Does anyone know if Japanica of Chibitenshi marks packages as a gift?

>>7353586
They do, but you submit it as a shopping order rather than an auction. They can't sniper bid or real time bid on mbok the way they can Yahoo. The shopping service I generally use for mbok doesn't mark down packages or mark them as gifts, though. Sorry I can't help more.

>>7353426
>>7353435
>>7353549
The shipping charges are clearly a rip-off. There is no way something crammed into a USPS Flat Rate box or envelope is warranted to have a $10 "handling fee". The Intl site, in my experience, charges the shipping cost, not plus $10 for the privilege of buying from them. If buying from the Intl site with EMS is the same or cheaper than buying from AP US, do you not think that's ridiculous?

When posting a WTB, would it be inappropriate to note what the most recent going prices have been for the series you're looking for? I don't know if that's too heavyhanded to state upfront for a WTB.

>>7353628
I don't think so, no. It gives people an idea of what sort of price you're looking for.

People will still respond, even if they're outside of that price range. I've had it happen on WTBs before. It's up to you how to deal with that part.

>>7353596
I just bought something small from the international site. My book-size envelope said ¥1200 was actual shipping. The shipping charge on invoice for shipping? ¥2000.

>>7352492
>>7353435
I just put blouse, socks, headbow and ring in my US cart and the shipping charge was still $18.53. Single item, ring is $15.69 shipping cost.

Super sweet lolita here, need some advice.
Coords are pink/lavender reliant but there's no pink blouse in my wardrobe that's a nice blue-toned pink, only gross, weird, warm-toned pink that's not quite peach but definitely doesn't match the pink in Milky Planet or typical AP pink dresses. Is a blouse that color worth commissioning? I'm a size that's usually just too big for brand blouses unless they have back shirring, and fuck fully-shirred blouses and Bodyline (though sadly Bodyline usually makes very cool-toned pink blouses that would work with my predominantly sweet wardrobe, but their fabrics are crap).

Should I commission someone? I searched a bunch of indie designers to no avail. English Charm is out of business, so I'm screwed there. Already ordered from The Floral Notebook and got a weird shade of somewhat peach-toned pink. Do I need to just get a white cotton blouse, swallow my pride, and dye it pink? pic related is the color I need.

>>7351890
>>7353473
Actually the two stores used to be the same, but the designer and the owner fell out. The designer runs boguta and the owner runs lolitas. I suggest you get everything that exists in both stores at Boguta, since the designer kept the previous patterns and the ones as Lolitas are sorta different IRL since they redrafted shit by eye. Anything new from Lolitas (within last 6 months or so) should be as pictured though.

>>7353659
I say yes, since they're not really that expensive to commission. Have you tried maybe Mystery Garden? I know they do commissions and even though they're not sweet, if it's just a blouse of a specific colour, you might find it works for you. Since the colour you're looking for is also somewhat specific, you could benefit from sending a sample of something the right colour to them by mail.

http://egl.livejournal.com/19560192.html

Those sensitive people missed OP's point.

On the other hand if the taxidermist deliberately killed animals for the pieces I will be upset. If they just happen to use dead animals I'll think they are cute.

Hello, question here, are replicas from reputable brands, like Kidsyoyo and Dream of Lolita, just the same as the originals, just with out the burando name?

>>7355134
>Dream of Lolita
>reputable

Huh? No.

>>7355145
What is the difference then? Kidsyoyo at least seems pretty legit.

>>7355134
>>7355134
Not necessarily.
For one the quality is about half of what you'd get for brand. Sometimes they do keep the brand name on the print. The print quality tends to be a lot lower and there's a lot more print errors in them. And sometimes they change the cut of the dresses as well. Things like custom lace and stuff they can't replicate, so that tends to be off as well.

Also Dream of Lolita is shit.

>>7355134
Kidsyoyo is good. As long as you buy non-print replicas, you'll be okay no matter where you really buy from.

>>7341283
>>7341308
>>7341614
fellow KL jellyfish JSK owner here....i'm fairly confounded about the petti situation. i've got a malco modes around here somewhere so i might try that under it to see if it fills out the poof. and the fabric is so light/airy that i feel like i need an underskirt kind of like extra lining? (i wish the fabric was a bit heavier weight) i put it on and holy balls is the bodice short....i'm VERY shortwaisted and it still sits a couple inches above my natural waist (i'm well below their max bust size too), which is super weird.

trying to figure out what kind of blouse to wear with this.....maybe in a light blue? (i have the navy JSK) i'm not a hardcore loli so i don't have a ton of stuff in my wardrobe to choose from. any suggestions?

tl;dr petti and coording help for KL jellyfish?

Where can I find some nice faux flowers like the ones Tripple Fortune uses? Preferably online that ships to Aus.

>>7353835
I wouldn't recommend mystery garden. I have a very bad experience with them, also their lack of communication is disturbing.

>>7355989
Details? I was thinking of commissioning a blouse from them...

>>7355904
They get their roses from Okadaya or Yuzawaya. Be prepared for anal penetration when you see how much they cost.

Did anyone else buy something from BTSSB's sale last week? I received a confirmation email but no invoice yet. I sent an email to say I hadn't received an invoice, but I didn't get a reply to that either. I have never ordered from their Japanese site before and I'm terrified I missed an email and am going to get blacklisted. Has anyone else received an invoice yet? Or does BTSSB move ridiculously slow during sales the way IW does?

Any other lolitas here go to get their hair done at a salon before a meetup? I am pretty bad with my hair but everyone compliments me so much because I get it done before a meet and I'm usually too worried people will think I'm elitist or something if I tell them I got it done professionally.

>>7356384
If your natural hair is nice enough to wear lolita without a wig, I say use it whether you're the one styling it or not! If you told me you'd had your hair done at a salon I'd compliment you and your choice of hairdresser, haha.

>>7356380
I bought from their outlet sale. For me it was like
>1/26 order + order confirmation
>1/27 received email with invoice info
>1/27 sent money via PayPal
>1/28 package shipped

And then it arrived very soon after. They were pretty fast about everything with my order, anon. Not sure what to tell you. It was my first time, too.

Is the tiered version of romantic rose letter an under bust? I can't really tell

>>7356380
I didn't order anything from the sale, but I ordered a regular item through email on 1/29 and received an invoice on 1/30. I paid on 1/31 and have not received anything else yet.

What day did you place your order?

>>7357189
It's supposed to hit sort of mid-bust so you can show off your blouse ruffles. It won't be an actual under bust unless you're 4 feet tall.

>>7356384
I've never gotten my hair done ever, hahah (other than having it cut). But there's nothing wrong with having yours professionally styled. I can't imagine how that would be considered elitist. I mean, plenty of lolitas (and women in general) have their nails done professionally and nobody frowns upon that. If your hair looks really good you might even have people asking you for a referral to your stylist.

>>7356389
That's a lovely idea, I'm going to look for someone local. What sorts of styles do you get, usually?
It's no more elitist than going out to eat.

>>7357195
>>7356419
I placed my order on the 31st, just a few minutes after the second round of sale items went up. I just sent email #2 politely asking for an invoice. I'll keep my fingers crossed that I hear something soon. Thanks for the replies, even though it's making me even more nervous.

>>7356380
I placed my order the day it started and received my invoice three days later but the shipping cost was incorrect so I decided to email them about it the next day but they'd already sent me a new, correct invoice.
They shipped it out the day after I paid and I received it about four or five days later..

>>7357276
Have you searched through your spam filters? I forgot to mention that my invoice/order confirmation from them was actually in my gmail spam folder...

>>7357222
Damn. I like to wear my JSKs without blouses but it seems like I won't be able to with this cut

>>7356384
Yeah, I posted in the mail thread! Took me awhile to pay but paid on Feb 1, shipped Feb 3, arrived at my house on Feb 5th. It was only the jsk & headbow set though.

So just wondering does any gothic&lolita bible have ap's or babys posters?

>>7357306
I did finally get the invoice! Guess the second email did the trick. Nothing to be seen in the spam folder, and I am using Gmail too. Thanks for the help.

>>7352798
Who's Lynda?

>>7357189
dumb question but is AP USA going to do a release of it too?

>>7357783
Related.

I really want to start wearing my JSKs without blouses. I have been wearing them with blouses for years and get compliments on photos/at meets, but I really like how they sit on me without a blouse. Does anyone think this could ever be acceptable? I know wearing halter JSKs without a blouse is considered fine by many, but can regular JSKs ever be accepted?

>>7358468
just wear boleros to cover your shoulders. you should be fine. it's not a big deal unless you have gross pit stains all over your jsks.

>>7358479
I wear hardcore antiperspirant when I wear lolita so I don't sweat at all. No gross sweat stains here.

But what I meant was I want to show off my shoulders in the JSK. I have a pretty small frame and thin shoulders and I think they sit on me without a blouse nicely. I wish that was more accepted. Should I just go ahead and do it and deal with being called ita? I like to think I dress well based on the feedback I get but I am worried going without a blouse will be met disapprovingly.

>>7358527
Deodorant/anti-perspirant stains are worse than sweat stains, imo. At least you can wash sweat out, that shit ruins the fabric/causes discoloration.

>>7358468
I also like the look of some JSKs without blouses. Sometimes I feel a blouse can really end up making the JSK look ugly and take away the potential charm of shoulders and/or neck. It really depends on the cut, as well as your bust size.

Can anyone explain to me how brand tights tend to fit? I fit into American unisex fine, but Taobao tights tend to be a little shorter and tighter in the hips. Do they have a good amount of stretch or do they tend to be sized small?

Question about modifying brand:
How much does the value decrease when you modify the size of a brand dress?

Let's assume the original dress in good condition is worth $250, the alterations are done professionally and are almost invisible (for example sewing a panel under the arm etc), and are reversible.

>>7358721
I once bought knit tights from Alice and the Pirates. I'm 5'2" and was 135lbs when I wore them, and they fit just fine though they were getting a little tight in the thighs.

>>7358721
Ap tights are pretty stretchy. I'm 5'5, 165 lbs and they fit pretty well.

>>7358731
It doesn't really seem to change value (at least on comm_sales from what I've seen) if it's a professional alteration, and actually can make it more desirable if it increases size range or makes it able to fit other people who wanted it but couldn't fit it before.

>>7358451
Crazy owner of AP USA

>>7358800
Awesome. Was thinking of adding a little side panel to Marshmallow Bunny to increase the bust size as well as sewing the buttons on the straps a little lower. At the moment I can fit into it no problem but my bust makes the straps dig into my shoulders and it's just not super comfortable.

im new send help
in all seriousness help with coording this dress is greatly welcome

I'm having an emotional struggle right now

I'm not the skinniest girl in the world, but I pretty decently fit brand. I've got about five dresses in my wardrobe that're absolutely gorgeous that I love

But... I'm just having a hard time getting excited. I'm so scared I'll make shitty coords and look ita, or that I have boob loaf/will be labeled a land whale on here. (I honestly can't see these things in a lot of the girls posted here, so I can never tell)

I love lolita, and I find it fun and super cute. I just don't want to be run off on a rail for anything.

Any advice? And before it's asked, I actively work out and eat well. I've lost three pounds the last three weeks, and over the past few months I'm down forty pounds

I just am still super self conscious and want to know how to have fun with a hobby I love

>>7359201
i like to think people are only this vile behind the safety of a screen
in real life, maybe they have pulse or some remote warmth within their soul that does not match their cruel internet judgment

This probably gets asked all the time but I'm going to ask it anyways, about how much does it roughly cost to get your first coord together? I'm talking starting with absolutely nothing. Doesn't need to be 100% brand everything but I don't want to look like shit, either. I'll leave that up to your interpretation.

Are there things you can skimp on that will go unnoticed?

In terms of cost is it pretty much: dress>wig>shoes>accessories>everything else

My local con is the summer, I've been told the venue is nice and air conditioned but there can be a bit of a wait to get in. Do you think I'll melt in the sun wearing 400 lbs of clothes for an hour+?

How long does a lolita outfit last assuming it's worn maybe 2 times a year an meticulously cared for?

>>7359201
Just don't post your coords or yourself online if you can't handle it. Nobody said lolita must post coords

>>7359175
wear an ivory/ dark off white blouse

>>7359229
brand dress 200-350
good wig 40
shoes 40 minimum
blouse 30-100
socks/tights 20-30+
so far this puts as at 330 minimum
this brings us too accessories which is highly variable

>>7359229
You can skip the wig unless you're bald/ inappropriate hair cut

Anyway I think you got the wrong idea about lolita, its a fashion, its clothes so of course you should be able to wear the clothes as often you like without falling apart.

Cheapest decent coord you can do is about $80 but that's not counting whether you'll be wearing a dress you actually like
eg.
Bodyline OP - >$50 (including their shipping)
Bodyline plain tights - $4
Aliexpress/eBay Mary janes - $20
Bunch of eBay accessories - $6

You can go even cheaper than that but you want to be buying a dress you actually want otherwise why are you wearing lolita? If your favorite dress were Twinkle Constellation in Yellow for example now your total coord will cost you approx $300

Also you'll need a petti which will set you back $40.

>>7359228

So it's pretty much guaranteed that if you're plus sized, you're gonna get shit online?

Not upset, just genuinely wondering.

>>7359248
yea you cant please everyone

>>7359246
Anyway you should be able to afford a simple cheap coord in less than a month if your get paid minimum $100 a week.

I don't know what your goal is, looking amazing or just looking good for less. Former can start you $500+ tho

>>7359244
Shit that's not nearly as bad as I thought. I figured anything in the $300 range was slummin' it. I was thinking like $450-500 would probably be in my top range so I guess I'm not too bad off.

>>7359248
Depends on your attitude. There's a couple plus sized people who don't get much if any shit at all whenever posted.

>>7359246
>>7359253
>>7359251
Should have mentioned that I do have some cash to play with and that I want to look pretty good. Not very into lolita as a regular thing but it is super cute and I want to try my hand at it for my local con this year. So I figure I can justify spending some cash on a nice coord that I can wear the next year if I'm too lazy or too strapped for cash to organize a new one.

>>7359262
right and always remember there is the possibility to resell stuff
just keep it in good condition, and dont expect to get the same amount you paid
but its an option if you dont like a dress you got or you find that lolita isnt for you

>>7359273
Will keep in mind, thanks.

>>7351029
Tokyo Pirates is great for in-store SS stuff.

Can anybody recommend other jellyfish prints by chance? Do they even exist? The KL one seems to be sold out (at least on clobba) and I'm dying to have something similar.

I know there's one from Cherie Cerise and it's pretty, but I honestly wanted a nice print more than anything.

why so much text? i want pictures >.<