/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Is this a replica?
It's from DoL but I don't recognise it as a rep and I quite like it

>>7324338
I don't think so? It's not IW's and it's not the Marple one, so...

>>7324497
No J&J either ?

>>7324338
Love the fabric.

Is it just me or does the bodice look off? Could be just me.

I had a dream last night that I worked in a maid cafe style restaurant but with lolita. All the staff kept trying to dress nicely but no matter what we put on everyday we were ita. It was owned by the YandyMan and he just walked around in the back all day. As hard as I tried nothing worked.
...
I just wanted to tell someone about this. Sorry for nothing worth while haha.

>>7324338
>>7324497
>>7324512
The print is IW's Royal Library.

Does the KL Jellyfish dress look fucking awful on anyone else's bust? I normally never have a problem with this, but for some reason the location of the waist + the little seams/tucks/whatever the hell those are around the bottom of the bust make me look like shit.

>>7324512
I have this fabric seen sold in stores so, yeah, I think they want to make it look like Royal Library though.

>>7324577
Isn't it JetJ bibliotheque, the second release without the portraits?

>>7324512
Doesn't seem to be? I mean, they're probably going for that look but it's not a print replica.

>>7324580
avoided jellyfish madness because i'm a busty-chan and immediately regretted it. comments like this make me kind of glad i saved my money. are you a busty-chan too, anon?

>>7324580
Empire waists are terrible on busty girls, so probably.

>>7324594
No, the one without the portraits.

>>7324606

That doesn't look anything like >>7324338 though.

Will I ever get the traumerei dress for retail price or will it be forever overpriced? Especially in navy...

>>7324595
>>7324598
I'm not particularly busty.
My underbust is 28in (71-72cm) and my max bust measurement is 81-83cm. I'm also fairly short and small/slim in general, so it was really rather shocking to me that it fit me so horribly. I do think that my chest might be a little lower than average, though.
I haven't tried it on again with the straps lower or a petticoat on (tried it on at my boyfriend's apartment when it came in the other day). Hopefully those things will fix it. Not to mention, I think the dark colourway won't look so awkward, so it's a good thing I ordered both; now if only that one will arrive.
The blouse is beautiful and fits nicely, at least.

>>7324647
jk just realized that I can't lower the straps
I must have been confusing it with Sugar Hearts.

>>7324606
Looking at it, it doesn't look like a replica, but heavily inspired by it.

If you're just looking for a library print dress, I have the skirt version of this in red and brown and the construction is awesome and the print is clear.

http://
item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=25551300991

>>7324606
Oh, I didn't even know this version existed!

>>7324648
I'm also wondering this. I want one of the JSKs in pink so badly! I should have just bought it when it came out.

I'll even take the brown color, whatever.

This is my first sweeter item, and my the shape looks funny to me. Does it look weird, or am I just not used to sweeter poof on myself?

>>7325753
give it to me instead

>>7325753
Jfc that's stunning

>>7325753

Looks to me like your petti is too large for the skirt. Personally, I'd go for a much smaller one in a softer cupcake shape instead.

Stupid ass question, and I swear I'm not a troll/perverted/neckbeard, but my mother always told me you didn't need to wear underwear with tights/pantyhose because they had a tiny cotton panel that served as underwear. I always thought this was fucking retarded and wore undies under my tights/hose.
Have you heard of this?

>>7325798
I've never heard of this thing before. That panel is reinforcement so you don't blow the crotch out.

>>7325798
You should wear underwear under them, you can catch infection and blotch because of the crotch seam rubbing against your bare skin

http://www.my-lolita-dress.com/ how trustworthy is this site /cgl/ ? I heard some mixed feelings about it

>>7325798
The only time I've ever heard someone advocate not wearing underwear under your tights was for ballet recitals (because leotards and panty lines). Keep wearing your panties, anon.

>>7325810
http://forums.lolitafashion.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5957

>>7325810
Bought Infanta from them on 3 separate occasions, never had a problem. They are Taobao resellers and were acting as a Taobao agent at one point. People keep spewing the "IT'S MILANOO!!!" line about them, but the woman in charge Linda says they are not affiliated. I think they are just another Clobbao or Qutieland.

>>7325825
>>7325810
thats outdated, mylolitadress was accused of being milanoo because they had some pictures from the site, although the situation got resolved in a post in egl years ago, they are resellers and they are safe.

Has anyone bought anything from dreamV recently? I tried ordering from them this week but they cancelled my order saying they can't accept my credit card information, even though it's just a regular Visa card

BtSSB outlet sale has started.
Glad I held off on the lucky pack due to the blouse being too small, saved myself 9000 jpy and got the dress and headbow instead of the other bits I didn't want.

I didn't know where to post this - here or the help thread - buuuuut I wanna jump on the reservation for Baroque's Rabbit Circus dress and I have no idea where to:

a) actually buy it (there's that poxy little store linked on her FB and tumblr but it says nothing about international packages)
and
b) what to actually expect. Will I have to get up at four for this? Will my brand-new dream dress be ripped away from my fingertips?

Basically, I am clueless.

>how do i lolita

>>7325753
I thought the wonder queen skirt is solely A-line. I'm surprised it looks that good with a bell shape.

>>7325977
Outlet sale? Does this mean its only in a physical store?

>>7326074
I'm an idiot, just realized you were wearing the jsk. Oops.

>>7325753
Agreed. A lot of people overstuff their skirts, it makes the fabric look stiff (instead of draping elegantly).

>>7325753
I think it looks how AP generally intends their skirts to look over a bell petti, though personally I don't really prefer the stiff way it swings like a solid mass as you walk. But, I think it looks good anyway, since it's meant to look that way? So it's a matter of your personal preference.

>>7325798
I know some people don't (my mom too, sometimes- maybe it's a generational thing?) but I think it's really gross, so.. I'd say don't do that.

>>7325798
You're suppossed to, I think my sister doesn't (don't ask how I kinda found out) but that's weird to me. If your skirt/dress blew up on the wind people would see your naked bum and possibly more at the front.

>>7325798
Noooooo
its reinforcement (its super fine fabric of course you need reinforcement in that area)

How much do Baby typically charge to ship a pair of socks?

I just saw on LSE that someone offered 150 euros (according to the seller who was doing a feeler post, ew) for a Meta JSK that sits unwanted and gets relisted for 4000 yen on Mbok. Why don't people bother to do any research? Do people really care that little about their money?

>>7326326
More than the cost of the socks.

>>7326076
Nope.

babyssb / shopping / outlet . html

>>7325798

My mom told me that too. Fuck that noise, I sure as hell am not doing that. Cotton undies under my pantyhose all the way.

>>7324768
Sigh. I regret it too.

So I placed an order from IW's 50% sale a week ago and they never e-mailed me back. Should I be concerned at this point or wait a little longer?

>>7324675
Oh this looks lovely! Could you perhaps post some photos of the skirt and print?

Is Hello Lace down once and for all? It won't load at all for me.

Can I get a rough estimate from someone who has bought from Baby before of how much a JSK + headbow costs to ship from Japan to the US?
It's my first time ordering from Baby, and I don't know what to expect.

>>7326550
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/lacebook

>>7326579
>>7326550
whoop, forgot to past whole link
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/lacebook.com

>>7326577
Usually about $30 USD for a JSK and accessories in my experience (I'm in the US).

>>7326579
>http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/lacebook

I was talking about Hello Lace, not Lacebook. And I did check it on that website, just wondering if the owner finally decided to shut it down. PS: Your link doesn't work.

>>7326584
Just use lolibrary, why would anyone use Hello Lace anymore?

>>7326584
It's down for everyone, and you just have to tape http://hellolace.net in lieu of lacebook in the case

>>7326586
HelloLace actually has a few items that Lolibrary is missing, so I like using them for cross-reference.

>>7326586
I'm looking for a certain dress that I forgot the name of, and HL is good for browsing when you're not sure of the name. I also looked on Lolibrary through all the JSKs for that brand, and nada.

>>7326587
I know that, like I said, I already did it. Again, I just wanted to know if it's temporarily down or if the owner decided to stop paying for it. Some of the sections were deleted (all of Moitie) to save space last year too.

>>7326583
Thanks!

Is it considered rude to go to a tea party (Not a brand event, just a meet up) and take your own drink? Or sachets of coffee? I'm not keen on drinking just water and I really dislike tea. My comm never offers anything else, despite having told them in the past that I don't like tea, water or drinking just milk.

Does anyone know if this print was ever made as a skirt or in other colours? I know it's IW and from 2008 or earlier, but can't find a lot of information on it.

>>7326603
Ask the host?

>>7326603
Probably, but if the drink options are literally JUST water and tea, and it's not a private restaurant I don't see why not.

>>7326638
I have. She just told me not to come to tea parties if I don't like tea. It's the same host every time and she's a huge bitch. It's my only local comm and I like the other girls there.

>>7326641
Yeah, it's usually a tea party in the park sort of thing.

>>7326649
name and shame, what a bitch

can we see some caps?

>>7326649
Oh? Wtf? Why the fuck would it matter if it's in the park? It's just a picnic with tea. Lame

>>7326649
Tea bag her.

>>7326654
I'd rather not get my comm neck deep in drama again as it tends to result in some fall outs. The conversation was face to face, anyway. Otherwise I would and could have blurred their name's and faces out. It was basically at the end of the last comm and we were discussing what we'd like to do next time. I asked if I could fetch hot cocoa or cappuccino sachets for a change and got the "It's called a TEA PARTY for a reason. If you don't like that, don't come." response.

>>7326659
Exactly. Sometimes when only a few people show up, we change our plans and go to a nice cafe instead. She gets agitated if people order anything other than tea. She's a very 'by the book lifestyle lolita'. I know I'm not the only girl that's sick of her, and multiple secrets have been made about her on btb.

>>7325753
i think that looks amazing, anon. But I can understand that it might feel weird.

It definitely isnt an A line but you might want something less poofy for daily wear. That petti looks amazing for a con or fashion show (or maybe even a meet) though.

>>7326593
I'm pretty sure the owner was that girl who passed away last year, so...

> :(

>>7326684
Either she's got a learning difficulty and doesn't understand why it's not a big deal to have other kinds of drinks, or she's so up her own arse it's not ~lolita~ if you don't drink tea. I don't like normal tea but I love hot chocolate. Honestly it should be called the LAME party.

>>7326587
I'm pretty sure the owner was that girl who passed away last year, so...

> :(

>>7326684
Sounds like a speshul snowflake sort of a bitch. Why can't you host the meet for a change if you usually only go to the park? That way you can bring whatever the fuck you like to drink.

>>7326813
I should have mentioned that me and my closer friends of the comm do have our own meets from time to time and we sometimes go cons together. But if we want a meet with the entire comm, we have to play by that bitch's rules. Otherwise the meets get boycotted by her little followers. It doesn't help, because she dresses herself really well and you wouldn't expect her to be a special snowflake, up-herself bitch.

Don't know if anyone has anything coming from Clobbaonline right now, but I had ordered KL's jellyfish dress with Martin and added on a Loris bag as well because why not - he told me that the purse and dress are ready for me, I sent the rest of the payment (Put a deposit in and then paid the rest when the dress arrived), he emailed me back saying that he'll let me know when he ships it out.
That was on January 13th and I still haven't received any word that he's shipped the item out... also worth mentioning that his usual sign off at the end of this emails included "R.I.P. Mum 1/11th/2014 4:45AM". I completely understand that he could be going through a rough time right now but I need that dress by February 12th.

I guess I'm just wondering if he's responded to anyone or shipped anyone's items out since the 11th?

>>7326704
Yes, the girl who died in a car accident

>>7326704
>>7326977
Wasn't that the owner of Lolibrary and not HelloLace?

>>7324580
It looks awful on mine because it doesn't fit even though the measurements said it would. I actually think there may have been a mix-up in all the madness during the first group of orders.

Alternatively, it would fit fine but the placement of the bust and lack of adjustable straps makes it sit too high and not fit.

Either way, I only tried it really quick the tags are still on so I'm debating what to do with it.

>>7326961
He responded to an inquiry I sent about an order. But it took a little longer than the 24 hours. Did you email him again stressing the importance of the delivery? He probably wouldn't mind a polite reminder/reinforcing email.

Is ouji even a thing anymore? I never see any coords and it seems like no one really talks about it.

>>7327011
Yeah a week or so after paying for the addition of the purse, I told him about the date I needed it by and he recommended that instead of airmail, I switch to EMS just to be safe and the final invoice reflected that change in shipping. I'll send him one this weekend!

Has anyone heard anything about Wondertropolis? I'm interested in ordering some blouses but I haven't heard back from them

I was poking around 2ch this afternoon and I found some interesting loli stuff. is this a good thread to share it in/would people even be interested?

>>7327285
I'm interested, post that stuff yo!

>>7327285
Does 2ch have it's own lolita board or are they just threads? How do you find them?

>>7327285
>>7327291
Ok here goes! There's quite a lot of stuff I found so bear with me

http://uni.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/alone/1373206289/101-200

This thread's called "Well, we're lonely so let's talk about lolita clothes." The main topic seems to be men who are interested in dressing in lolita. They give each other advice on having broad shoulders in brand blouses and they reminisce about how Akiba used to be. I translated a couple posts:

125:
But compared to other donkis, akiba’s donki has a lot more Lolita stuff.
In the old days, generally shops in places like harajuku had everything.
Anyway things like bodyline and maid dresses were a lot more common, but you could wear all-out Lolita fashion. And there were also things like gosupan.

These days, it’s sad because there’s nothing but boxed cosplay.
I hope soon we can return to the old days.

I used to buy things like mini hats and underwear.

130: Unfortunately, Lolita items haven’t made a comeback in Akiba’s Donki.
Because of suspicions of plagiarized designs, they no longer carry Lolita items.
Even in other Donki stores, it’s unlikely that they carry Lolita.

Things I could use:
Wig
Frilly Lolita knee socks
Petticoat
Minihat
Female underwear
That’s about it I think

http://uni.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sale/1388744785/1-100

This thread was more boring. It's about lucky packs. It's the busiest thread I found though so I guess it deserves mention. It was kinda cool to see them talk about waiting in line and stuff though.

>>7327321
http://awabi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/net/1380989212/

This is such a cool one! It's called "lolita watch thread 50." I think. They all just chat. It's pretty slow, but the stuff they talk about is so familiar. Like they gossip about efamous people, talk about how old is too old for lolita, dieting, buying brand vs. cheaper clothes... I'd love to get the whole thing translated because I feel like japanese lolitas get put on a pedestal, but that's a big project. Maybe someday when I'm bored.

Oh and on the top of the chat thread there's this link: http://lori.alink2.uic.to/ (you may have to click through an ad screen.) The third table down is a list of japanese lolita blogs. A lot of them are password protected or now inactive, but it's pretty hard to find good ones so maybe this is a good place to look if you're interested. If you wanna know more japanese lolita blogs let me know, I have a couple other blog-specific resources I can share!

There was one other really creepy weird thread of guys who wanted lolita girlfriends. I should have saved it, it was pretty hilarious but I don't feel like tracking it down again.

SO MUCH WRITING I'M SORRY

>>7327321
>>7327323
thankyou for the translations anon! it's always interesting to see what they're talking about on the japanese boards

>>7327295
There's no lolita board. It'd be a lot easier to find if there was. I search ゴスロリ and ロリィタ (NOT ロリータ, THAT'S PORN) either in 2ch's search box to find it in thread names or in google with 2ch next to it. You sorta have to know some japanese though to sift through the junk. I've found some stuff in general threads in futaba, too, although those are harder because futaba moves so fast and it's not archived.

Futaba's cool, though. I once found an article about a lolita named mioko who killed herself in high school because of bullying. It was actually a big deal in Japan apparently; the parents sued the school for a bunch of money iirc. Anyway on the anniversary of her death, her friends and 55 year old mother dress in lolita and hold a party for her.

>>7327031
Look at wardrobe posts? People clearly are wearing it still. But it was never a big thing that was talked about. Aatp's oujis stuff sell out pretty fast.

I really wish I could get on lacebook. :( I love the idea about a lolita forum and really want to be a part of one. Is anyone here a member? What's it like?

>>7326638
I believe it comes in a skirt and there are other colourways from memory perhaps pink and ivory?

>>7327403

It's pretty dead, to be honest. Nobody talks in the forums or the groups. You might see some chatter in the blogs if you're friends with people, but otherwise nothing.

Does anyone know how long the Baby outlet sale lasts?

>>7327403
Yeah, it's pretty boring, discussion-wise. Pretty much just a place to share pictures.

>>7327031
god, i love ouji/kodona style. it's really what makes me wanna get into lolita. it's so cute, and in my opinion, gives off more of a fun-vibe than traditional lolita.
also, i think some girls may not feel like they look feminine or sweet enough to wear traditional lolita, or may be uncomfortable wearing such feminine clothes if they aren't particularly used to doing so, so i think kodona is good niche for them.

>>7327543
thread needs more kodona

>>7327553

>>7327554

>>7327337
>NOT ロリータ, THAT'S PORN

No it's not. It's even written that way on the Gothic & Lolita Bibles. ロリタ refers to lolicon.

>>7327957
Chill, I think they just mean in terms of searching, it's the same/similar deal to searching on pixiv I noticed.

>>7327411
Thank you! I was hoping there'd be a skirt version, now to find it...

>>7328001
I found more info there seems to be two jsk types and a skirt in black, brown and pink. I also found a photo of the skirt.

>>7327987
Why do I need to chill, I'm not mad...? It's always been that ロリータ was lolita fashion and that ロリタ was lolicon for searching.

Secrets are up!

>>7328016
I really don't want to argue with you or be confrontational, but... you're wrong. I'm sorry. ロリタ doesn't mean anything at all. I can't even type it because the software used to predict what I'm typing doesn't even recognize it... I had to copy paste it.

There seems to be some debate in the japanese lolita community on which spelling of lolita is correct. They have the same problem of association with nabokov's lolita, so a lot of them combat this by spelling their lolita as ロリィタ because in searches ロリータ turns up a lot of porn. That's not to say some don't use this to mean the fashion! They do! It was the original spelling, in fact. That's why it's on the GLBs. But as far as internet searches go, they use ロリィタ or ゴスロリ instead.

I found some japanese yahoo answers questions about it.... I'll translate one hold on

>>7328383
What kind of idiot needs fancy software to write in katakana? Are you using your phone? That's the only explaination for that or why it would "predict" what you're trying to type, but most phones don't work that way. ロリタ can actually refer to lolita fashion by people not in the fashion but it is just the written name "Lolita"

The other anon is half right though, ロリrefers to loli as in lolicon ロリコン.

While ロリータ is pronounced more like "rori~ta" than the name, it's spelled like that to differentiate from loli/lolicon.

>>7326649
why do you not like tea? have you only tried one kind or something?

>>7328383
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1037024230
Question:
What’s the difference between ロリータ and ロリィタ?

On the internet I find people who get mad at people who write ロリータ instead of ロリィタ.
In that conversation, they said to use ロリィタ to mean clothes.

So what’s the clear difference between the two?

Answer:
When people see ロリータ, a lot of people associate it with the meaning of pedophilia.
Because of that, to make a clear distinction, when talking in relation to clothes, people write ロリィタ.
To make searching on the web easier – that’s the meaning.

ok, there. I translated the shortest reply but there are a few other answers saying roughly the same thing. I don't really mind if you guys believe what you want to believe, though, so I'm gonna stop spending time on this now.

>>7328428
>using yahoo answers
>not being able to write katakana

you're a moron.

>>7328431

>>7328395
If you're on a mac or even have fancy ime, it will automatically show up words that match what you're typing as you type. As in, it guesses what you're going to type. Also, if you don't have ime on your pc, the easiest thing to do is just use google translator's english to kana function and then copy+paste.

>>7328431
"the software predicting what i'm typing doesn't even recognize it"

are you an idiot, or did you just not read her first post at all?
on macs and some other devices, the japanese text tool like finalizes a word after you type it. if it doesn't recognize the word, it will either split it into smaller words or complete gibberish. The only way to get around it is to like type each character then hit enter then type the next character.

>>7328440
As someone who's not a macfag and just uses language bar function on PC with straightforward Microsoft IME, I wasn't aware that it did that, and it seems like a pretty stupid function for katakana since it's used for foreign names. I guess I forget that mac users need handholding.

>>7328362
where?

Not sure where to ask so: does anyone have pictures of the super cute furry lolita bunny girl?

>>7328431
Yahoo JP is a different company than Yahoo, and is closer to our Google. Also Japanese people do tend to post normal questions with normal answers

>>7328440
>>7328443
Eh? I have the katakana keyboard on my macbook as well as the hiragana..

Look (in brackets is what I typed in the keyboard when the katakana was on:

ロリータ (rori-ta) ロリィタ (rorixita)

MAGIC

>>7328551
I can just type whatever katakana I want on my keyboard, I don't know what this 'special autocomplete program' is, but I know it does that for kanji if you use hiragana, not katakana though.

>>7328607
>>7328551
If you type in hiragana for a word that is written in katakana, it will change it like it changes hiragana into kanji. I'm personally too lazy to switch between the two most of the time unless I'm writing something with a lot of katakana.

>>7328497
I have the tumblr: pizako.tumblr.com/

>>7328614
I rarely use katakana but I kind of agree with >>7328443 it doesn't really serve a function doing that if the word ends up being a name or an uncommon word.

>>7328607
>>7328614
It will only do the 'autocomplete' if you press the space bar. If you press enter it gets left as that. However there are times where some kanji is used more than the other with the same exact hiragana spelling so you have to enter space again to choose the different options.

from this weeks secrets

I hope I wasn't the only one that thought of YEARS AND YEARS

>>7328640
I'm 155cm TALL, how can someone get this big ?

>>7328623
11/10, would hug if not for the fact that there's probably a 40 year old man inside of it.

>>7328644
Overeating, poor health habits, and probably some enabling thrown in there

>>7328648
I would still hug

>>7326826
>the meets get boycotted by her little followers

Fuck 'em. You're probably not the only one sick of her. You can only give it go, it you're willing to host a meetup. You could always ask who'd be interested in attending so you can get an idea of numbers. Get them to PM you if they'd be afraid of the queen bitch.

>>7328443

>I forget that mac users need handholding.

You're entitled to hate macs, but give it a rest with the unnecessary cuntish remarks. It just makes you look like a childish, elitist dick.

sage for OT

>>7328670
This fucking dude is living the dream.

I bought Marshmallow Bunny in black and I want some cute socks to go with it, or have some sort of interesting leg wear.
The paper doll socks with the bunny ears are still on the website, and there's some generic rose with polkadots replicas on eBay, but I want something kind of interesting and unique.

I was thinking of getting white fur-topped socks and pushing the socks down over the top of some casual black boots.
Or, over the knee black socks with white fur and some cute heels in pastel or black or something.

Ugh I have no idea :( Part of me just says "buy the generic socks you know will go", but that's not as fun!

>>7328648
Anyone with A+++ ashion sesne like that even when in a fursuit deserves a hug aight

>>7329600
fashion sense* jfc

>>7329573
I like the white fur idea.

>>7325810
I order from them all the time. they're fine. cheaper than qutieland, they resell taobao and their english communication is excellent.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/121256167537?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Anons, I'm speechless, how did I miss this? 3 strap Anglomania's just sold for less than $30. So this is what heart break feels like...

>>7328395
>not using IME
>not using every normal dispositive to write nihongo

Its clear you dont speak it.

>>7329640
I was following but after contacting the seller I found out they wouldn't fit.

>>7329640
>http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/121256167537?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

>>7329640
Shit, that's my size, too. god damnit.

What does it mean on Rakuten when the pictures say "Shipping Off" above them? Does that mean it has free shipping?

>>7326491
wait. They online store staff only work about 2-3 days a week.

I bought an op on the 10th of this month and I still havent receive it, it was shipped from the UK and I cant seem to be able to track it anywhere anymore, just the royal mail telling me they already gave it to the post office here in my country on the 13th. But I contacted the PO and nobody knows anything about the package, I dont know what to do anymore.

Should I file a claim? How do I locate my dress?

>>7330439
If its airsure it won't track any more after it arrives in your country, if it's international signed for the package may have been not scanned at certain areas so tracking hasn't been updated. I will say the Royal Mail website is usually useless for tracking. Have you tried on here? http://www.trackitonline.ru/

>>7330505
all I know its that its insured and already checked on that site and it says the same royal mail says, only in this site it says my package got on the 16th to my country, but after that its just blank.

Sorry for the crappy phone pic, but I need some advice. Does thia dress make me look like a blob as badly as I think it does? I:m really happy to own this dress but I think the shirring makes my boobs look horrible and waist non exsistant. I'm planning on loosing a bit of weight and need to get fitted for a new bra but I'm not sire if it'll help enough. Is there a way to modify this to fit better or am I going to have to make a skirt out of it?
I also have no idea how to coord this as the brown is different from what I thought, any blouse suggestions for this? My measurements are 28 under bust, 36 over bust and a 28" waist that i'm working to get down to 24-26" if that helps at all.

Does anyone know much about Metamorphose's Vintage Record or Pop Swinger? Was their a skirt released with out a frill tier?

>>7330587
that's sorta the nature with fully shirred dresses. That's why I avoid those dresses at ALL costs. There's almost never a way to make them look good, as they will bunch up and make you look like you have rolls where you don't.
Some things that may help though:
-wear a bolero/outwear to cover it
-wear a waist-cinching belt
-wear both
You could possibly wear a long bolero and wear a waist cinching belt over it to kind of disguise it. Wear something like pic related could also work
That's about all I can think of. Once you slim down it won't be as obvious but it'll still be there.

>>7330858
source on those dresses?

>>7331107
they're for sale here: http://dolly-kei.livejournal.com/92723.html

Can anyone give advice on this?
I ordered from Bunny House last month, and when I got my package it wasn't my stuff. I messaged them about it and they gave me the fb of the person whose stuff it was supposed to go to (and I'm guessing where my stuff went) and told me to contact them about exchanging our things. I asked if they would be reimbursing for at least the shipping to the girl, but they said no because it was the post office's fault.
I don't understand how it was the post's fault as the package was addressed to me and it had a tag listing my own stuff on it, unless they give the post the stuff to package and send..?

>>7330587
try a different bra. I swear by Bali's Flower Bra to make my boobs look awesome under fully shirred stuff.

>>7332060
that's weird. ask them to clarify and take a picture of the shipping address on the box to prove it's your address on the box and not a mail mixup.

>>7332064
Just went through all of the recycling and couldn't find the original package, I only found the customs declaration tag that was on it. I'll go message them

would these tights look okay with haenuli stained glass?

>>7332098
They wouldn't be awful, but the grimoire tights look more faded and subtle while the Hanelui print is omg colorful. You would also be bringing a lot of visual interest down so would need to bring some balance up closer to your face.

>>7332098
I actually bought these tights to wear with haenuli's stained glass dress and they look fine.

Honestly though, I think the dress looks better with bright, jewel coloured tights to match some of the colour in the stained glass in the windows. The length of the dress means that the print on the tights is hard to pick out as it's in shadow or just straight up underneath the skirt part depending on how short you are.

>>7332089
If you get sent the wrong package or have trouble with an online purchase it really is best to keep all the packaging and stuff until it's resolved.

>>7332120
>>7332121
yeah, I get you. My friend was wondering if I wanted to buy them off her and I was looking through my wardrobe to see if they'd fit anywhere. I might take them off her hands anyway but I'll also consider bright tights whenever I wear it next!

>>7325798
That's disgusting, but old people seem to use pantyhose as underwear sometimes. My nana used to do it all the time. It's icky, just keep wearing your panties.

Not sure if I should post this in this thread or the lolita trends but, how tall is too tall for Lolitas?

I'm 5'9 and a half and have always wanted to try lolita, mostly Sweet or White(?) lolita but I've read that tall people look better in Classic/Goth lolita. Is that true?

I've also wanted to try Ouji/Kodana.

>>7332697
Too tall is when you can't find things to fit you. Don't try to put AP on and expect it to look good, unless you purposely want it to look like a mini skirt. Use your common sense when shopping for clothes.

>>7332697
you can always just wear an underskirt. I'm 5'6 and some brands require me to add length/ wear underskirt so I don't think they're too short.

>>7332697
You're never too tall or short for lolita!

You just gotta accommodate your size. Unfortunately a lot of brand sweet clothes will just barely cover your butt at 5'9'' but there is always custom sized lolita makers (Taobao, Indie etc), which you'll probably need anyway since your skeletal construction still may not accommodate some brands clothing anyway.

They recommend Classic/Gothic because brands like Innocent World do long versions of otherwise too-short dresses and generally targeting taller people anyway.

For example
http://innocent-w.jp/fs/innocentworld/dress/132710

So I e-mailed IW about a week and a half ago trying to order a JSK and never got a formal reply asking me to pay or anything. Now the JSK is sold out on the site. Is it safe to assume they'll cancel my order?

would these work for lolita? im trying to do a black / purple outfit and am having a hard time finding large shoes without having to spend an arm and a leg on tea party knock offs.

the issue i have here is with the heel / bottom of the shoe. will the tan color clash too hard with all black?

>>7333052
You'd probably be able to paint the tan parts that will show (like the sides, there's really no point painting the bottom)

>>7333052
oh my gosh they look like cookies/pasta

>>7333052
can we get a link to the shoes?

>>7333052
I think that the bottom would clash with all black, yes. The shoes are more suited for a cookies or sweets theme because of the beige and tan.. I'm sure you could paint the heel black. No idea about the bottom.

>>7332702
Yup, this. I'm also 5' 9", and AP looks ridiculous on me. Some BABY and Meta dresses are longer, though, so if you really want to wear sweet, there are options.

I personally wear Classic, and it's much easier to find classic dresses that are long enough.

>>7332098
No. The colouring is completely off and it will just look tacky.

>>7332098
youll be matching up 2 completely different styles of stained glass windows with dissimilar palettes

just coz theyre the same theme doesnt mean they go hand in hand

>>7333258
I met a girl that was 6'2 that wore a meta dress with adjustable straps, she looked awesome

http://m.wikihow.com/Be-a-Lolita-or-a-Gyaru-With-a-Small-Budget

Thoughts?

>>7333610
Those kinds of sites are the cancer of the modern internet.

>>7333610
"You won't look cheap if you look around and choose the best deals but still the prettiest things."
says the writer who makes cheap disgusting shit

>>7324566

What a weird coincidence. I had a dream that I got the Chess Chocolate Bustier JSK, and no matter what I did, I was ita. Like, these chunky fuchsia bows kept popping out of my hair, which was skunk-striped for some reason, and no matter what tights I put on, they kept turning bright yellow.

I woke up feeling more ashamed then I ever have before. Lolita nightmares suck.

>>7333645
i just woke up from a dream in which every time i tried to sell this lacemonster it popped back up on ebay under my name
such is loli purgatory

>>7333610

>In addition, if you like crafts, you could make your own clothes. It's very cheap and you can basically make everything if you have the skills.

Dear god I hate this advice.

I wish ifwinterends would fall off a cliff already.
Her recently comparison between DOL and taobao indie designers almost made me lose it.
"I'm no snob, but... [insert snobby, bitch comment about how she owns so much brand and is therefore above buying indie]."
Like, bitch, I own plenty of brand, too. That doesn't change the fact that my three dresses from KL are the only print dresses I have whose patterns actually fucking match up at the seams and whose buttons actually stay on.

>>7333127
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Large-Size-34-43-fashion-women-s-chunky-high-heels-pumps-with-Bowknot-office-lady-shoes/1620401241.html

here are the shoes

It's so hard finding large size shoes in this color

would this work instead? the front part is kind of ugly but maybe I could put some black bows on top of it

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-arrival-women-s-fashion-square-high-heel-T-strap-pumps-buckle-thick-heel-woman-shoes/1616461859.html

So about Lady Sloth's new blouse. Is it shit? Will the seams look OK if I press them myself? Should I forget about it looking good on me, since it even looks terrible on the model? Also, I love the idea of a gold blouse, but will it even match gold shoes? Looks more like beige+silver in most photos.

>>7333731

>>7333734

you should stick these in the aliexpress thread since i think thats getting archived
there were some plus size shoe people in there who im sure'd appreciate it!

>>7333737
Is that the one with the most uneven fucking hems i've ever seen on the egl_comm_sales? It looks so poorly constructed and weird.

I guess the hems may not matter if you're tucking them into a skirt or dress, but it's still sad to see how bad it is.

>>7333745
That's the one. That's what I thought too, but the top part looks OK to my untrained eye, so... don't know if want.

>>7333737
If it's new how the hell will anyone know if the quality is good or not

Does anyone know how much gobelins weigh? Thinking about buying a gobelin jsk from japan, but I was wondering if the shipping would kill me.

>>7333711

Me too man, me too. I own brand as well, and while I love it to death, I feel like KL does measure up in various respects to brand.

>>7333737
>>7333766

such potential and time wasted. A shame.
Whoever made this has some skill they just really need to back up and learn their basics again.

>>7333766
I'm trying to decide on it, too! I love the idea of more colors in my blouse collection, but this is a softer gold and I'm not sure how much use I would really get out of it. I also prefer ordering set sizes rather than sending measurements, because I'm not sure how well she tailors to specific sizes.

>>7333780

The mother of Lady Sloth you mean?

>>7333737
Oh shit, this would match a dress I bought perfectly... I'm really tempted because it's not something I'd probably ever wear not tucked in. But 55+shipping... I'll have to consider it.

How are people's experiences with fromjapan? How prompt are they in particular? I kind of want to bid on an item that's running out in 1 1/2 days.

Is anyone else slightly irked by allisiumbaby's sale posts on lacebook? Her stuff has been up for weeks and she doesn't lower the price after the sale period ends. Like that IW cutsew, there are 2 exact others up, one also from a lucky pack, that aren't even getting snagged at literally half the price she's asking.

>>7334112
For mbok? Hit and miss. Sometimes they bid within 8 hours sometimes not for an entire day.

Just try and see.

>>7334113
lacebook or lacemarket?

>>7334113
she wanted me to pay 90 dollars for a headbow
I didn't even pay that much for the damn dress

>>7334117
Sorry my bad, I obviously meant lacemarket.

>>7334112
I've used them for auctions, I made an initila deposit with paypal high enought for them to bid in real time, but you also have the snatcher bid. Pretty good, I won the dress.

>>7334115
>>7334119

Thanks! I'll try them out anyways. It's not a dream dress so I won't be destroyed if I miss it.

>>7334116
That's ridiculous. What print if you don't mind me asking?

>>7334123
It wasn't even a print

>>7334113
Maybe she's an idiot?

I wasnt watching her dresses but more her accessories. I dont get how tiny little things need to cost $10 shipping minimum tracked within Australia alone. Smaller satchels can send out for less than that tracked, and then bam, there goes one whole 3rd of the total price on shipping for some tiny bit of plastic alone.

>>7334125
Holy shit.
>>7334128
I know, like $10 shipping for a fucking AP necklace? I don't care if it's express, wrap it in bubblewrap and stick it in an envelope, there are such things as express envelopes and it's only like $1.40

>>7334128
Actually
Consider she's sending off a ring/necklace/bracelet.
Parcels from Adelaide to most places in Australia are $8.25 tracked for that 500gm satchel, and Parcel Post (ie your own packaging) is $6.95. Both are tracked.

So.....Why the fuck is she charging flat rate $4-$5 more than what it really costs? Or does she price adjust? By the looks of how she writes it, very likely not...

P.S. Express is $10.55 not $13.95...

Who the fuck puts a tiny ass plastic ring in a 500gm and 3kg parcel? $20 internationally? I swore I shipped a skirt to the US for cheaper than this and it was tracked!

http://lacemarket.net/angelic-pretty-dreamy-bunny-ring/

>>7334132
Right!
And for a few bucks more you can be "extra uber well intentioned and shipping safe" and put it in one of Australia Post's packaging, or your own box. I say few bucks, not $10 whole dollars. What's this person's excuse?

"Ohayoooo!~ (＾∇＾)

I bought this from bodyline 3 YEARS AGO, only worn once (^_-) asking $55 ~ ( ^ω^ )"

Got to love BOdyline lolita sales

>>7334143
I may have been a tad over enthusiastic reinterpreting with the emots.

>>7334134
Could be the price of shipping materials?

Does anyine know anything about Baby's Chocolate Whip JSK? Was it only available in the Japan store? I can't even find pictures of peoole wearing it. Do I need to give it more time? How difficult will it be to acquire?

I was watching Interview with a Vampire the other day and became tempted to create a Claudia-inspired coord. Does anyone know of any plain sax blue dresses or fancier-looking green ones?

Hey lolis! I'm actually not a loli myself, but do you guys know where I could get a really decent hoopskirt within a couple weeks? I don't mind expedited shipping. I saw some on ebay, but the reviews aren't too great.

Pic related. Something kind of like what I'm looking for

>>7334424
I've been wanting to make dresses and coords based on Claudia's outfits since early 2002

>>7334427
Lolitas use tulle or chiffon petticoats. Hoopskirts are a faux pas and very 'newbie'.

>>7334576
I have seen perfect poof achieved via a hoop. JetJ used to sell a hoop petti. So please, tell me where you get this information that hoops are forbidden and looked down on. They are inconvenient and a pain in the ass, but nowhere that I have seen in my 7 years in the style forbids them.

>>7334576
Organdy/organza. Chiffon isn't as common since it's more delicate and requires more fabric for the same effect, though you see it rarely (Dear Celine made one, as I recall). It works better for underskirts. Hoops aren't used more for the inconvenience- apart from being unwieldy, you need a separate crinoline on top of that too to cover the hoops.

Coming from someone haughtily talking about 'newbie' faux pas...

>>7334653
But, I'm looking for something floor length. The chiffon petticoats I see are only to knee length.

>>7334822
Floor length you'll want a hoop. Unfortunately, I don't have a good source for you to use. You can get a pattern at a local sewing shop and make one, however. There are also cosplayers who make their own patterns, so you can probably find tutorials online.

However, like >>7334653 says, you'll need a full-length petticoat to cover the ribs of the hoop skirt so that your dress doesn't have creepy ribs.

I saw the cutest cardcaptor sakura inspired coord on tumblr the other day and it made me want to do a madoka ispired coord! Unfortunately, I'm scratching my head at what jsk or op would work best. Any suggestions? Or is this just a horrid idea overall that I should scrap?

>>7334844
I don't know how you're going to make it look like Madoka without going too 'cosplay'.
Found this on polyvore. Something like this could work if you added her bows to the top tier above the ruffles.

>>7334982
>that bag
hrrrnnnn
please tell me you know where to get it

>>7335041
it's from innocent world

>>7334844
Post it

>>7334589
Bitches always forget to wear a petticoat over their hoopskirt so the hoops show through the skirt and look like shit.

When are IW's outlet lucky pack release ? Is it around february ?
Are B size LPs sold out quickly ?
Change rate is favorable from yen to euro nowadays, I really want to try to by some.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2JYp1XIZoAs&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D2JYp1XIZoAs

Part 2 of the Secret Life of Lolitas

>>7334154
You dont have to pay more than a bulk load of bubble wrap ($2 which will spread for like 5 or 6 small parcels), and for the Parcel Post you dont need to buy a box or packaging, you can wrap it up yourself with whatever you have around. Buying an envelope is about $1.50 and as for Express post satchel, the entire shipping fee includes the satchel

>>7333783
I used to have a Lady Sloth dress and it was pretty spot on to the measurement's I sent. I've got a smaller waist than average for my size, so it was nice to get custom rather than having to pick a size that would fit my bust and be too big on the waist.

Can anyone suggest some dresses for me?

I'm going to be buying my third dress, and my first two were flops.

I like classic and gothic, and I'm new, so something easy / versatile in terms of coording would be great.

I don't even know what I want anymore. I'm willing to spend ~$150 or so, and I'm not against buying secondhand or offbrand.

>>7336421

That's pretty broad. What were you buying before, and why weren't you happy with it? What kind of quality do you want, what do you expect out of your dresses?

If you're willing to spend 150, IW also has a great sale going on right now with prices within that range (which also includes shipping).

>>7336429
Honestly, I'm not even really sure.

My first dress was an Ekaterina replica from KidsYoyo, the second was Infanta, the first just looked odd on me and was a strange shade of wine, and the second is cute, but doesn't allow me to put a god damn petticoat under it, so I can only really wear it casually or as otome.

I'd like to find something A-line, a JSK or short sleved OP. Grey, black, or brown colored. Quality wise, I was happy with the first two dresses, and I don't plan on wearing them a whole lot, maybe 2-3 times a month to go out.|

I have a bunch of otome and mori stuff, but Lolita is proving to be more of a challenge.

>>7336421
Btssb has an outlet sale right now! I just ordered this jsk & headbow set for under $150 shipped. http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/outlet/html/1372003.html

>>7336518

I got the same set and a letter set as babbys first brand new brand. Almost forked out on the LP but the blouse wouldn'tve fit me cos of these goddamn shoulders, didn't like the bag either. Or that pouch thing.

They almost charged me 4900 yen for shipping though, luckily I waited until the next day to pay after they sent me a new invoice..

>>7336434
Someone else already suggested the Baby outlet sale but you said you're looking for gothic and classic, preferably a-line so..

Innocent World are also having a sale and there's a few things you could buy under $150

>>7336518
Is there a page to navigate the sale from?

>>7336681
Just cut it to /outlet.html

>>7336702
Was sort of hoping there was a page I'd missed that was in the proper site style rather than this

>>7336797
Try dot html and not slash?

>>7336813
AW SHIT I'M A DORK

Thanks

Do people ever sell these secondhand? Or should I just buy one from IW

>>7336995
I've seen them pop up on auction sites, but they're a pretty versatile wardrobe staple so they're the sort of thing a lot of people hang on to.

question: how come people get all uppity about replicas (even "replicas" that are design, not even art) but don't seem to give a shit about when shoes get ripped off?

>>7336995
Do IW boleros fit plus sized girls? My bust is around 98cm and I have big arms, not huge though. I was thinking of buying the same exact one.

>>7337238
Because they're hypocrites.

>>7337238
its legitmate artwork not mary janes with an extra bow

>>7337238
People don't really get uppity over clothing design replicas, there is only so many designs people can create on certain items, if everyone got a bit annoyed over that kind of thing we may as well say that brands are ripping eachother off making similar-ish white, bell skirt long sleeved dresses or something.

Honestly I'm pretty sure all brands use random art they find and trace over it, so I don't really care much about the art theft aspect, I'm just an elitist fuck and believe that lolita is about decadence and spending money and looking like you spent money, like a princess, and people who buy replicas are just making it some super inclusive hugbox bullshit fashion. They're always the same kind of "i do what i want and don't give a fuck, i'll spend my money how i feel" types of people who think that everyone's jelly that they spent $50 on their chinese bootleg version of something.
I know that japan isn't some magical land of high quality or anything like that, but if you're talking brand vs. replica, the original is always going to leave a better impression, and the ones who about that aren't the ones you should care about. Plus, who the fuck is going to invite some poorfag to a $30 a person tea party if they're wearing a $50 dress? Not me,

>>7337373
I meant designs that aren't artwork. There are so many people who call others out on this board for wearing a replica MM dress or IW, when you cant copyright a structural design. This is what i meant by shoe replicas.

>>7337395
>Honestly I'm pretty sure all brands use random art they find and trace over it

I don't think so since they pay artists to draw and design the prints? I guess if you're talking about like, tracing the design of a shoe (like the recent meta print that has that trace of the one shoe in it) but I'm pretty sure all the stuffed animals and whatnot that have very stylized appearances from brand to brand are design from the bottom up and not traced.

>>7337404
In another thread recently, someone compared images from Baby prints to source materials. Beyond the obvious Lady of Shalott, I remember their Secret Garden print being an example, as it had artwork directly traced from the movie poster.

>>7326992
>>7326704
>>7326977

The girl who passed away was one of the founders of Lolibrary. Lolibrary's hosting is managed by a different founder and will continue to be managed by her. Multiple people have backups of lolibrary's database as well.

Hello lace is owned by LJ user boxx2genetica, unless I'm mistaken. Ask her if you have questions.

>>7337403

Eh, I really don't care, I just think they're losing out on some nice quality stuff. I just get really rustled when they compare a similar F+F dress to MM or something, and try to say F+F/bodyline is similar in quality.

But others can copy design all they want. I honestly don't care in that aspect, after all we're just replicating/deriving from designs from over 100 years ago.

Not sure if I make sense. I'm super tired and should be sleeping.

>>7337411
Diff anon but really? I missed where other brands' prints were being brought into it too. Can you give me an idea of where to look in the archive?

>>7337430
>>7337404
It was in the secrets this week.

>>7337330
I'm not sure anon the measurements listed state that the L bolero fits a 89cm bust.

>>7337330
This bolero in size L looks like it should fit.http://innocent-w.jp/fs/innocentworld/outer/133102

I'm new to lolita and have a dark brown dress, and I'm not sure how to coord it. What should I do?

>>7337442
Damn, that's WAY worse than Meta's.

>>7337473
Well first of all you might want to lurk more and do some research. Then you might want to think before you buy.

But lastly you could post in this thread >>7290295 with an actual picture of the dress, because a 'brown dress' is vague as fuck, and get help in the right thread.

Damn, I just got into lacebook, and there's some mediocre shit on that site.

>>7337430
>>7337465
Thanks for the link! That bolero would probably be a safer bet.

where could i find something like this?

>>7337511
I thought the reason it started was because LJ was dieing.
LJ is dying because people are too scared to give CC, but now there's a Lacebook thread about when it's actually okay to offer cc. There's a suggestion about adding a tick box to your coords saying whether you welcome cc or not.

Can everyone that's on Lacebook get down there and support this? I don't want just another picture hosting site, I want somewhere where I can get cc, but where people aren't anonymous and so they'll be thoughtful about it rather than just 'lel fetty'.
Please?

>>7337648
almost anywhere

>>7337680
anything a bit more specific? I havent had any luck finding them

>>7337648

Those are Chocomint replicas of 6%DOKIDOKI star clips.

>>7337694
thanks

>>7337686
Assuming since you said 'like this' and not that specifically:

>storenvy.com/products/3720658-chocomint-starry-night-2-way-clip
>storenvy.com/products/2042959-metallic-shooting-star-clip-gold
>storenvy.com/products/4316018-silver-gold-shooting-star-hair-clip

Not counting any you could probably find on taobao.

>>7337511
How do you actually get into Lacebook? I'm a lone Lolita, and have no lolita friends--are you only able to get an account if you know someone who's in?

>>7337703

thank you

>>7337660
How do I get into lacebook? I have friends who are lolitas but I think they used up their invites.

>>7337724
They can invite three people every month. So, ask them? Or post on your facebook comm wall asking if anyone has spare invites, I'd help you out but I have to get my whole comm onto it first.

It's pretty slow there.

So I'm working on my first sweet co-ord (normally I just do gothic) and I'm planning on wearing this with a lavender wig. What color blouse should I be wearing, pink or lavender?

If it helps this is the Pretty Day Dream Carnival Tiered JSK in Lavender. My order also came with the bonnet, but I'm on the fence about it. It's really gun but I'm a little afraid of dipping into the 'Sissy' category everyone keeps talking about.

>>7337853
Don't wear a lavender or pastel wig with that outfit. It's too much. Wear something natural colored in the darker range. You're over-doing the lavender if you go with a lavender blouse, so go with pink. The bonnet is fine, really, this whole 'but people will think I'm a WEIRDO AGE PLAYER' thing is ridiculous. Ignorant people are going to think you're a freak no matter what and other lolitas obviously know better, so wear it because it's a freaking gorgeous bonnet and it goes with the dress perfectly. Wear pinks for your accessories and shoes or legware, and the shoes should be whatever color your legware isn't (lav shoes with pink legware, and vice versa).

>>7337882
>>7337853
you can actually go a lot of directions color wise and accessory-wise with DDC, but I'm keeping it simple for you with just a two color scheme since this is your first sweet outfit, just fyi.

>be scrolling through photoposts
>spot photoset of dresses reblogged by a lolita, think to self 'these indie brands sure are getting reeeeally 'little girl Sunday dress'-ish'
>wait a tic
>tfw you realize they ARE little girls' dresses

This is the state of lolita we're at; when one makes the assumption that something is ageplay-kei before actually thinking it's meant for children. How do you feel about this, anons?

>>7337897
You thought little girl dresses looked like little girl dresses. I think that's fine?

>>7334844
>cutest cardcaptor sakura inspired coord
I saw this too. I found it so stupid that she used pink hairclips when sakura always wears red ones.

>>7336421
Just browse mbok/yja!/lacemarket. youll find something.

>>7337944
Well, I thought little girls' dresses were grown womens' dresses made to look like little girls' dresses before simply being little girls' dresses.

Sorry for all the possessive plurals.

>>7337953
yeah but still... they were little girl's dresses in the end, I don't think it's a problem haha

>>7337954
>>7337953
Let me try and clarify... You saw dresses that you assumed were lolita dresses since they were on a lolita's tumblr. Then you thought 'wow these are reeeaaallly pushing the little girl envelope' and then it turned out they were little girl's dresses. So your first reaction being 'wow they really look like little girl's dresses' is not a problem because they in fact, were little girl's dresses, so the reason your first impression was that they were pretty kiddie looking was not because they were lolita, but because they were in fact, kid's clothes. Does... that make sense at all? Like, when you look at a spread of MM dresses you don't think 'wow little girl dresses?' you think 'wow, beautiful classic dresses!' because that's what they are meant to look like.

>>7337887
Thanks, that really helps narrow things down!

I got a shipping notice from Metamorphose yesterday... but the tracking number doesn't work. Yeah it takes a while to register, but it's been more than 24 hours now, I've never had such a delay on EMS.
How long should I wait before pestering Meta...? Or is it like a Japan Post non-fault right now, since I noticed some earthquake warnings on their site?

>>7336995
Every cutsew-fabric item I've bought second-hand shows clear signs of wear / damage (pilling, etc). If you can swing it, I'd but new - they're rare enough that you won't save a ton second-hand but a new one will be nicer & last you much longer.

>>7337897
Well there is a such thing as imouto-kei now, and that's actually trying to look like children, but kawaii animu lolis.

>>7337477
Yeah. it's really disheartening. A lot of digital artists do this and don't ever get caught. I do copy from time to time, but usually just copying a public domain photo or a photo of something I've taken, but never straight up tracing.

>>7337404
>the one shoe
it was two shoes bud, to a T

>>7338550
Yeah, they're legitmately taking someone elses property without compensation. A photo you took yourself is ok, its your property and no one is losing anything.

>>7330587
I have this dress in sax. Because of the shirring no matter the bust size it makes your boobs look huge! Try wearing a belt around the waist or a bolero.

There is a girl in my comm who sometimes folds the top into the inside of the dress to make it a skirt too.

I'm trying to start a gothic wardrobe. Am I doing it right?

I'm trying to start a gothic wardrobe. Am I doing it right? I know there's only Moitié in there but it's my favourite brand, so yeah.

>>7337960
I guess so, I'm just sort of annoyed that lolita these days has wired my brain to think they would be for grown women before children. Sign of the trends.

>>7338543
I know, that was my point.

>>7338648
To clarify, this is my wishlist. I don't own any of these things.

Can you iron CP petticoats?

My friend mercilessly crushed mine into my bag instead of folding it neatly and now its a distressing scraggly mess. It shows when I wear it under a dress. Unfortunately scrunching it doesn't do it well unlike their A-line petti.

>>7338648
You dont need to color match everything. Especially things that arent going to be seen like bloomers, and if you are going to have a lot of white, just get a white petticoat. It doesnt matter if you wear that with black.

Also if you want things that have blue in it, start adding that to your accessories. Moite does enough blue that you should be able to find enough that would work together.

>>7338648
You don't need both a white and black petti unless you also want to layer them for crazy poof, or are getting them in different lengths. You also don't need that many pairs of shoes - a nice pair of black shoes and nice white ones are fine. Bloomers also aren't as necessary when you're wearing tights. I'd also recommend getting a blue hairpiece in there somewhere.

>>7330587
I think if you put a nice wide belt on it would look fine. The problem is that you aren't getting any waist definition at the moment, which generally happens with full shirring unless you happen to be super hourglass shaped.

>>7338683
I would probably go with shaking it out and gently steaming it (i.e. hang it up while you're in a hot shower) or dampening it and ironing it with a pressing cloth on a really, really low heat. That fabric wouldn't take much to melt it.

>>7338706
Ah steaming it near a shower, thats pretty thrifty. I'll give it a go now, thanks!

>>7338648
Speaking of which, where is a good place to buy moitie? I've been looking everywhere for Gothic stuff but I can only seem to find sweet.

I'm pretty new to lolita though, so I'm probably just not looking in the right places.

>>7323723
Where can I buy this mook with headphones? http://www.babyssb.co.jp/info/2014-01-31-earmuffler/index.html
I cannot find where to buy it on BABY website.

>>7338729
Second hand sites, since all the dresses you listed are sold out in store. Some of the dresses you want go for higher than retail price so don't get too much sticker shock! The ones I regularly check are mbok, yahoo japan, fururun, maiden clothing, violet blue, tokyo alice, usagiyouhinten and closet child.

>>7338748
Ah I wasn't the anon who posted the wish list, but that you for the help! I just have a similar taste for Gothic.

I guess it's time to go hunting now for pieces!

How do people store bonnets? I have a hatbox that fits one of them, but the others are too big for it unless I bend them to fit (which I'm assuming is a bad idea), and I'm not seeing larger sized hatboxes online.

>>7338803
I've used large shoe boxes before and also put a couple on a wig head.

>>7338729
If you want to get it new, you will have to get a reseller as moite's shop doesnt do international orders. I know CDjapan sells moite but not sure of anywhere else.

Otherwise second hand every now and then. People who do gothic are collectors, so it isnt a big pull of getting the newest thing. This does mean that there will be less being sold 2nd hand, but also that the price of pieces will stay pretty high. Doesnt help that the euros get a lot of moite too.

What are the top 5 mistakes (or I guess most common mistakes in general) that new lolitas make coming into the fashion? I'm a newcomer and don't want to fuck up or some off as ita.

>>7339141
*come off

>>7339141
IMO:

>Buying something before thinking about how (and if they are able) to coord it

>Buying from somewhere shitty without doing any research then crying about it afterwards

>Trying to mix too much normalfag stuff in to a coord and just looking like a sad offbrand mess

>Misbalanced coords (too much of a color in one area, or not enough of a random color thrown in, too much crap on their head and nothing elsewhere, or not enough stuff on at all, etc...)

>Trying to post all over the place and asking questions that could be easily answered in a simple search without doing any research first and lurking for a while to learn the ropes.

Off the top of my head.

>>7339243
Thank you!

>>7339141

>thinking petticoat is not a neccessity (sure was my biggest mistake)

>trying to put a personal *unique* spin on the style before even grasping the basics

>clashing, too vibrant colors or same washed out color on every single item

>thinking white, offwhite and ivory are the same thing and/or interchangeable

>wearing too many patterned items at once. Bonus points if every pattern is different

>>7338689
>>7338694
Thanks!

I just bought my second Moitié piece ever and I'm so happy. I had been eyeing it for a long time and suddenly I saw there was a discount on the dress so I grabbed it. One step closer to my dream wardrobe.

>>7340674
Also, I have a medusa piercing (pic related). Can that work for gothic or is it a no-go?

>>7340674
That dress is lovely. I wouldn't worry about piercings in gothic. Personally I don't like the look of piercings with lolita but with a lot of gothic looks, it works just fine, especially Moitie style ones. Basically the closer you get to straight up goth and the further from cute, the better it works imo.

>>7340685
Why not? I dont really see a reason why you wouldnt, it is a piercing you have already, and you probably wont really want to take it out just to wear clothes. Some people will not like how it looks, but that doesnt mean you cant do it.

>>7340685
You'll never please everyone but I don't think it's a problem, especially in gothic.