/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>Trends you hate
OTT sweet and Creepy cute.
>Trends you like
The rise of classic and bonnets returning.
>Trends you would like to see come back
Gothic and old school.
>Trends you predict will happen in the future
OTT Gothic
>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Skeleton tights, plastic jewellery, animal headwear.

I'm starting up a lolita/jfashion shop for accessories and I'm really interested in what people would like or think the future of lolita trends might be. I want to give a wide variety of accessories for the staple looks but I also want to make new things that people will be into as well.

>>7328990
It depends on the quality of your items first and foremost. Even if you're delivering to ~future trends~, it won't matter if what you make is subpar.

>>7328987
Agree with everything here

Hate: OTT Sweet
Like: Classic and Gothic
Trends for the future: OTT Gothic and then suddenly Classic will be the biggest thing.
What needs to die: RH shoes, plastic accessories

>>7328995
I would say it will be mid-range. Not the best but not falling apart. It's mostly going to be accessories so necklaces, bows, bracelets, etc. I wont be pricing them very high. Basically just trying to make it even between quality/cost.

Like, I'm not going to be throwing in diamonds on my jewelry, but it's not going to be shitty acrylic gems either.

>Trends you hate
Classic elitism, hating on sweet
>Trends you like
Subtle sweet, the opposite spectrum of pastel vomit, more of an otome edge
>Trends you predict will happen in the future
The rise of classic
>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out

>Trends you hate
Most 'new' fusion styles (steampunk, creepy cute, cult party kei, cyber/rave, etc. + lolita), painting dresses

>Trends you like
The longer dresses I'm seeing lately. The silhouette seems more elegant to me. Also, the use of echarpe pieces. I think they look nice with the right outfit.

>Trends you would like to see come back
Dramatic platforms. There are a lot of cute shoes in lolita, but part of me misses those Meta and Moitie stripper heels.

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
More OTT Classic and Gothic, the continued and expanded use of more luxurious fabrics, more fusion styles (which I'll probably hate), crowns as headdresses (and not just miniature ones)

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Alice-themed everything, printed tights with printed dresses, fusion styles (particularly creepy cute)

Is OTT sweet really that bad now? I love it...

>>7329035
its not bad, but its dominated lolita for a while now. pretty much every print these days are for ott sweet

>Trends you hate
Digital prints that designers can't even handle themselves
Painting dresses all pixelated as fugly can be (looking at you JetJ)
VM and MM recycling designs for a decade
>Trends you like
Anything Enchantilly they just do things right
Creative new input from Chinese and Korean designers

>Trends you would like to see come back
More chunky huge stompy shoes

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
AP will release a strawberry, soft toy and then an animal print
Btssb will release more prints with berries, soft toys and then some animal music print
MMM will release a desert print
IW will do vegetable farms or plantations
Some indie brand will do a Mushroom one and it will look amazing people go crazy over it
MM and VM won't do anything new
>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Tattoo stockings.

>>7329036
>every print these days are for ott sweet
Peter rabbit, New Iron Gate incarnate, every single painting dress, glitter seraphim, phantom merry go round, library print, musical band film flam
About time to leave the rock you're leaving under

>>7329058
Living under*

>>7329058
for every one you mentioned there is more OTT sweet stuff. Yes other brands are doing non-sweet prints but saying that sweet doesnt dominate the market right now is living under a rock.

>>7329065
That's because most people are sweet lolitas.

>>7329058
You left out Night Ship D. Err I mean Alice.

>Trends you hate
For some reason, I could never get into the big bow headbands. They just bother me. Especially in classic. They are tolerable in sweet.
>Trends you like
I know a lot of people will hate me for saying this, but I love flower crowns and crowns in general.

>Trends you would like to see come back
Rocking horse shoes and bonnets

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
I really hope there will be a trend to more solid color dresses with extravagant designs. I really love Rococo, so if I could see more dresses similar to the ones seen in Rococo paintings, that would be wonderful.
>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Cult Party Kei + Lolita. I love both styles, but not together.

>>7329008
agreed

>>7329017
what do you mean by echarpe?
scarves? knitwear in general. I think both could be lovely.

>Trends you hate
Patterned tights with patterned dresses when the patterns don't go together.
Creepycute.
Wearing things without a petti. I see more Japanese girls doing this though.
Twintail wigs.

>Trends you like
All these fancy headdresses.
All these fancy bags.
Lace blouses.
Classic, and classic style sweet.

>Trends you would like to see come back
Ringlets.
Vivienne Westwood bags and jewelry.
Kuro/Shiro twinning.

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
Heavy Antique accessorizing. (Rosaries, brooches, tassels, older styles of shoes)
Prints inspired by the Tzars of the Russian Empire.

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Mixing styles. Dolly kei and Lolita are like cousins, they shouldn't be all over the same person at once.

>trends I hate
tumblr being tumblr.
ugly hipster glasses without lenses

>trends I love
long dresses coming back and the rise of sweet/classic(radiant candlelight, DDC, etc). oh and flowers crowns.

>what should be brought back
more chunky heels. I love old school moitie heels.

>future trends
flowers? or the rise of classic
>repetitive trends
bittersweet. I feel like I see the same combos every time and its kinda boring.

>>7329090
The big fancy sashes, the brands have called them écharpe for some reason.

>>7328974
>>Trends you hate
Bittersweet. Is that even a thing?
>>Trends you like
OTT classic, painting dresses, flower crowns (though I'm not a fan of the five plastic roses in a row on a shitty plastic headband. At least cover it and arrange something more nicely)
>>Trends you would like to see come back
Lace and detailing on solid color - basically old school style. I love details, even more than prints.
>>Trends you predict will happen in the future
OTT classic and gothic
>>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
OTT sweet prints, painting dresses. JetJ's clipart shit. Never thought I'd say this, but it's getting truly tacky.

I just want afro loli is that really so much to ask?

>Trends you hate
Fandom lolita, (split) pastel wigs, creepy cute/pastel goth, OTT sweet

>Trends you like
Classic becoming more popular, regal/royal coords (sashes, crowns, scepters)

>Trends you would like to see come back
Gothic, natural colored hair. It's not really a "trend" but I'm just really sick of all these bright and tacky colored wigs.

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
Brands will stop focusing so much on busy prints and put more attention into details in hems, lace, dress shape and construction.

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Deer anything

That last one makes me pretty sad. I bought this Dolly Darling headband last year and I'm in love with it still. I never wore it with lolita but I see a lot of people just over doing the antlers in lolita. And I don't even want to mention the fawn makeup.

>>7329245
I'm really sad, because I've been wearing antlers with my Lolita for years. I was thrilled when it became more available and normal and now people are already burnt out on it.

>Trends you hate
Dropping heavy sweaters over a Lolita skirt and calling it pastel goth or popkei, or whatnot. It's just weird with the silhouette.

>Trends you like
MahouKei, or, more accurately, styles that embrace/use themes from classic Mahou Shoujo. I really want people to get ridiculous up in here, I mean. Really, look at this. Go further. And, in general, I'm pleased about the community as a whole embracing anime thing. It's cute.

>Trends you would like to see come back
As many people have said, big clunky shoes! I like teaparties and pretty heels, but I kind of miss the big frilly platform heels of yesteryear. I feel like it balanced people out? Heavy up top, heavy at the feet. It also did great for slimming ankles and legs.

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
Weird shit on your head. Like. Flower crowns won't be enough. They're going to start sticking books and libraries up there. Sort of an OTT Classic, where instead of cupcakes and icecream cones, it's violins and holy sensers or something.

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Skeleton tights. They were cute the first few times, but I'm beginning to groan at seeing them in "sweet" coords.

>>7329298
>embraces mahoukei like in her picture
>hates all kinds of shit on peoples heads
>doyounotseehowmuchshitisonthatbitchescranium

>>7328987
>>7328996
>>7329100
>>7329108
>>7329118
It's awesome knowing people still appreciate old school style

I love it and I'm currently building my old school wardrobe
I'm afraid people will see my black dresses with white lace and automatically assume it's ita
>tfw posted this dress in a thread was told I was an idiot for wanting this "ita-tastic monster"

>>7329320
Are you kidding I love shit on my head, though. Bring it on.

>>7329330
oh hey i read that last question wrong. mybad

>>7329326
I have this in green tartan and it's goddamn gorgeous.

>Trends you hate
>I'M GOING BACK TO OLD SCHOOL

>>7329326
The people who are "going back to old school" are few to none. Old school looks more ridiculous than OTT anything. Plz go back so we can laugh at you.

>>7329326
I love it! And I love old school.
Most bitches who scream ita don't know when to actually use that word.

>>7329568
Please. Get that sand out. I'm making a beach jar for a friend.

>Trends you hate
I dont hate it but it start to get on my nerves because everybody does it and a few people are actually getting it : OTT anything. You can't throw a whole flower bouquet on your head and call it OTT classic, you can't bath yourself in glue and run into Claire's kid section and call it OTT sweet, period.
Other than that, I really don't like wig because most of them looks fake and it's easy to say that's not your true hair. Most people used them because it's easier to do that than to style their own hair and look form headdress that complement their hair color.

>Trends you like
I've seen more and more girls with really long hair, it inspire me to grow mine longer, but I don't know if it's really a trend.

>Trends you would like to see come back
Embroidery. I one a few dress with embroidery and they are just so gorgeous, elegant and sublte. They're terribly underrated.

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
In a few years gothic lolita will come back in force, but maybe a little bit of old school before that. I really see more and more old school these days, quite strange given most newbies are still stucked in sugary sweet OTT and judge balckXwhite ita.

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Too much prints in one outfit. Enormus J&J prints with printed tights and printed bag ? No, thanks

>>7329298
I think antlers are adorable but it was just too much at once. Antlers, deer prints, faux deer fur accessories, deer makeup. If it was taken into moderation, I wouldn't mind at all.

I'm still wearing this headband during Spring/Summer with himekaji and I might try cult party with it. I paid $45 so I want to wear it a more than I did last year since I was a bit shy about wearing it since they're pink fucking antlers. But I recently saw F21 have a few deer themed items so I won't feel too out there.

>>7329049
MM don't do anything new that often, sure, but actually VM try some things. They have new design each year they add on their tradtionnal yearly release, plus they started to make printed tights, which is really something for a so quiet and simple brand. They also make collaborations which are cute and interesting yet simple. Maybe you're not into classic so not sensible to subtle design because you prefer sweet, but they definitly have changed a lot.
MM is a smaller brand and they try to make new things but they have to do some re-release to keep their costumer and as all those dresses are handmade it isn't especially strange that they don't have time to make new design. Plus seeing how much they 'care', MM will certainly close in a few years.

>>7329619
I just started learning to do ribbon embroidery and I'd love to incorporate it into something Lolita. Totally in agreement.

>Trends you hate
OTT anything. Especially OTT classic.

>Trends you like
Rhapsody wig style hair as long as it's not in dark brown, then you look like hagrid. I also like bonnets.

>Trends you would like to see come back
Big clunky shoes. I have quite a few pairs, but I just feel silly wearing them when everyone else has these dainty tea party shoes on.

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
More classic.

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Mixed styles and fandom lolita.

>>7329650
Oh yes please ! I need to learn how to machine embroidery too, but ribbon embroidery is the best. Pic related my dream dress, I never found it in S or M, only L and overpriced

>Trends you hate
Lolita/Doctor Who abominations. Or just fandom lolita in general. I'm all for doing a coord inspired by something, but fandoms always take things too far.

>Trends you like
I am all about the flower crowns and antlers. I'm also really happy to see that country lolita seems to be getting more popular.

>Trends you would like to see come back
I kinda miss plain white otks and black rocking-horse shoes, but those aren't really out of style.

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
It looks like more natural, foresty things are in style so I wouldn't be surprised to see collections that invoke a mori kei aesthetic: soft earth tones, knits, florals, etc. Also, OTT classic.

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Pastel split wigs. They were cute for a while, but they just draw itas in like ants to a picnic and now it's hard to get away from that connotation.

>>7329100
>Kuro/Shiro twinning

Oh my god yes. This was one of my favourite things about lolita when I first discovered it

>>7328974
>Trends you hate

fandom lolita, old school (im sorry anons)

>Trends you like

OTT things, bonnets, flower crowns. i love all that shit

>Trends you would like to see come back

not so much as "come back", but id like more hime-themed things in the future

>Trends you predict will happen in the future

i actually dont know! people are saying "SWEET IS DYING FINALLYYYYYYYYYY CLASSIC/GOSU RORI DESU WILL TAKE OVA" but im not so sure.

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out

fandom lolita, people hating on sweet/ott stuff/whatever's popular

>>7329100
>Vivienne Westwood bags and jewelry
>Ringlets
>fancy headdresses and bags
>Rosaries, brooches, tassels

Anon I think I love you

>>7329798
also
>mfw long hair is getting popular
>mine was almost to my butt
>i was an angry little anon-chan and cut it all off in rage
>not even to my shoulders yet and this happened last summer
by the time it grows back out again (2-3 years) i bet short hair will be back in. just fucking watch.
>my luck.gif

I'm selfish, I don't want classic to become the next best thing, because I want all the gorgeous dresses for myself.

>>7329326
i have this dress too! same colour and shape - we ought to twin
thankfully im a little smaller so its a better length on me, but i know people will call me ita in it anyway.
it looks like this on me >>7326515

there was a someone in a thread recently who had a similar dress but in all black and it was waaaay shorter on her but i hope she still decides to rock it anyway, its an absolute classic

its something only us girls who own this dress and similar will recognise - we're not being ita, just being that damn old school

>Trends you hate
That particular kind of gross/spoopy creepy cute lolita where its like bones and dripping blood. All I see in this style are unresolved personal issues.
And I'm sorry but I'll never like Hitler Youth hair cuts in lolita. Anywhere else I'm cool.

>Trends you like
Crucify me for this... but....
Jelly shoes in lolita.
We have Vivienne Westwoods, I'd love to see those 90s(?) kids jellies come in as well! Depending on the style, I think it suits only Sweet styles. I'd love to see it coorded nicely.

>Trends you would like to see come back
RHS.

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
Classic is coming out there... and more modernisations of lolita dresses to fit in with other fashions a little easier. I noticed APs been doing that anyway, and I actually kinda like it.

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Fucking Avengers/Doctor Who/whatever lolita. Especially those two.

>>7329298
>MahouKei
I would actually into this if I could

>>7328974
>Trends you hate
Wigs are ubiquitous now, everyone suggests wearing one if they happen to not like your hair color or style. It's almost like you can't be a lolita these days without a wig.
Also, skeleton and bjd tights are overdone.
>Trends you like
Flower hairclips/ flower crowns. I like them more then alice bows. Also, tights instead of knee socks/OTKs, not necessarily print ones. I have chubby legs and tights just look better. Also, I'm glad crew socks got in style and more brands do them. IIRC in handbook crew socks are still referred to as something sissy-looking you should avoid.
>Trends you would like to see come back
Rectangular headdresses (tastefully done, like IW ones), more plaid/gingham/solid colored sweet. Oldschool but without chunky platforms.
>Trends you predict will happen in the future
Not much of a prediction, just something I would like. I wish a new brand would appear, that mixes mori aesthetics and lolita. More 'playful' style classic (think some of the AP releases, like Chocolate Rosette series), more preppy style lolita, with plaid, berets, school cardigans. More colors - green, burgundy, purple, subtle yellow, terracotta, dusty pink.
>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Chunky heels, RH shoes, wigs that make your head look huge, twin tail wigs, tendency to lolify everything (Homestuck lolita? no), deer antlers and some other things I cant remember.

>>7329839
im in love with those shoes

>>7329853
>I wish a new brand would appear, that mixes mori aesthetics and lolita. More 'playful' style classic (think some of the AP releases, like Chocolate Rosette series), more preppy style lolita, with plaid, berets, school cardigans. More colors - green, burgundy, purple, subtle yellow, terracotta, dusty pink.
I am so on board with this

>Trends you hate
cosplay lolified
>trends that need to die out... but never will due to weebs
see above

>Trends you hate
Creepy-cute, mixing MLP/Pokemon/Hello Kitty/whatever other cartoon shit with lolita. Not that I don't love Pokemon, but please, for the love of god, no more Sylveon co-ords. Also I hate the idea that if you don't have a wig or spend 1000 hours styling your hair/make-up, you're ita.

>Trends you like
Hmmm. I haven't really been in the fashion long enough to notice which things are 'trends'. I guess the rise of indie brands, and the move towards more sweet-classic style.

>Trends you would like to see come back
Like I said, not been in the fashion that long. Ngl though, when I used to read the English GLB back in high school I always loved big stompy Mana platforms with gothic.

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
More animal/nature prints, but moving away from the standard bears/bunnies/fawns/kittens/poodles/whatever and towards less traditionally 'cute' things, a la KL's jellyfish print. I'd also like to see more high-end indie brands like 4 O'Clock that focus on construction and details instead of just prints.

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Painting dresses. When Bodyline has one, it's time to stop.

>>7329856
I could never find out what were the original ones with the bows

i think they're these?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bling-2013-melissa-jelly-shoes-glitter-bow-open-toe-sandals-plastic-women-s-wedges-shoes-Free/1471578600.html

>>7329867
Ugh, this.
I could understand if it was a character who actually did wear something similar to lolita to begin with, but SnK and lolita make one ugly pairing. The same goes for almost all the cosplay or fandom lolita I've seen.

>>7329839
hitler youth haircuts?

>Trends you hate
I might be alone on this, but OTT classic. That is just not what classic lolita is about imo. Sorry, JetJ, but the painting dresses are just too much.
>Trends you like
Longer skirts. I'm tall and I want things to be at least knee-length.
>Trends you would like to see come back
RHS and other platform shoes. Emphasis on clothing construction and texture over prints.
>Trends you predict will happen in the future
Steampunk seems to be getting popular in Japan, but it seriously should have died years ago. I hope gothic becomes trendy again though.
>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Steampunk, cosplay crossovers, itas making skirts made out of children's bedsheets

>>7329839
I love the ones mel is putting out just because they're so comfortable and kind of want glittery ones too

>Trends you hate
I hate the recent shit-on-OTT sweet trend that seems to have come alongside the recent rise of interest in classic lolita.
I hate people trying to invent new substyles. Bittersweet and creepycute are stupid.
I hate wa/qi lolita, it ALWAYS looks bad. Always. No exceptions. The gyaru look so cute when they wear kimono/yukata etc, because they don't gyaru-fy it beyond their hair style and make-up, and perhaps the print. They don't change the basic shape. Applying a lolita shape to traditional Asian dress just doesn't look right.
>Trends you like
The new princessy sweet! I love a lot of the non-print coords AP posts with all the metallic and pearl detailing, it's gorgeous. I saw somebody call it "hime sweet" but I don't know if that's somebody being stupid or its legitimate name. It's really pretty.
>Trends you would like to see come back
I would love to see more chiffon overlays. I know that trend is dead now, but its ever so pretty.
>Trends you predict will happen in the future
I'm expecting Classic to keep growing in popularity, despite the rapid wax and wane of the JetJ brand of OTT Classic that was briefly popular. I'm also expecting Gothic to rise again from the ashes. It's always been a popular staple but it's been shunted to the side through the OTT sweet years and now classic is taking centre stage. I think with the growing appreciation for a darker classic look, things will get distinctly more gothic in the coming years.
>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
I am so fucking bored of deer antlers, fawn make-up, flower crowns and those clip on stars with every coord. I only got some of those stars recently, but I try to pick what to wear them with sensibly. For example, the gold one I have looks cute with the gold stars on DDC. The pink one looks cute with the star motif on Dream Sky. Just lobbing them onto everything doesn't always look the best in my opinion, though some people do it well.

>Trends you hate
Wigs and bonnets. I can't stand them.

>Trends you like
Painting dresses, classic trend. Flower crowns.

>Trends you would like to see come back
Non-print and black & white gothic.

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
we're moving towards gothic but the christian symbols are old news. I think fantasy and mythology will become more prevalent in indie brands for sure. I predict celtic and witch themed dresses for brand.

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Jellyfish/sea life is starting to get annoying. I dislike heart, crown, book, and treasure chest purses. The novelty seem gaudy and cartoonish.

>>7330137
I think the key to fandom lolita and to be able to do it right, is to make the coordinate out of already made lolita items. Just inspire the colour palette from the character and try to keep official motifs on the low. People who do fandom lolita seem to think it's the character's lolita coordinate if they wore lolita, rather than a coordinate inspired by a character. If the character's colour palette doesn't work with lolita at all and clashes all over the place, pick another character.

Maybe it's just my personal opinion, but does fandom lolita really have to be distinguishable just from looking at it? As long as you know what it is, and you can say what it is and people can see the connection. That's what I think.

>Trends you hate
Fucking classical paintings dresses. I won't, like, call you an ita for wearing them, but ugh. Also that ~dreamy baby room~ type shit
>Trends you like
Chocolate prints! I also like APs more toned down sweet stuff they've been making, its so much prettier. I also like the fact that people are being a bit less strict with the whole skirt length thing, since I'm tall and AP is really short on me.
>Trends you would like to see come back
Old school sweet! and old Moitie.
>Trends you predict will happen in the future OTT gothic
>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Fucking classical paintings.

>>7329070
Yes please, more Rococo influences! *_*

>>7329320
No she hates big sweaters. She predicted "weird shit on your head" as a future trend.

>>7330149

>>7330149
Arrest this girl,her Hitler hairdo is making me feel ill.

>>7330164
Me too! The only setback of them I've heard is they're irreparable. I wonder how long they last?

>>7329839
I love jelly shoes with lolita! Especially those high-heeled ones. There was a girl at Frock On who rocked some mint ones, but I can't seem to find photos.

>>7331877
Oh please do inspire me if you ever do find the photo anon
It's 2:30 in the morning and already I'm waiting for daylight to come so I could try a coord out with a pair I got recently from a Myer sale.

>>7329839
I OWN THESE SHOES. I love them so much that I bought them in white and pink and I want them in black but they didn't have my size.

>Everyone posting classic as a trend

Maybe for ya'll, but I have been and will always be a classic lolita. I hope you guys don't buy $300 dresses based on what's popular and trendy, and actually buy things YOU want to wear.

>Trends you hate
fucking "royal" coords. I don't get the sashes and sceptres. I think it looks so weird
>Trends I like
Subtle sweet and the rise of classic and classic/sweet

>Trends you hate
OTT Sweet hate.

>>7330166
Ditto what this anon says but

>Trends that you predict will happen in the future
More sweet elements in gothic. I love AATP's and AP's witch sets, they manage to have some OTT elements while still being distinctly gothic and black. I also love things like holy lantern, Rosalia Princess Gauze OP, and Merry making in ghost town despite being heavily into sweet lolita.

>>7332505
Me too!
>>7332537
I'm also liking the sweet/goth hybrid type stuff. I'd actually like to see something like holy lantern in light pink, but probably won't :(

>>7328974
>>Trends you hate
Creepy cute, STEAMPUNK, to an extent flower crowns.
>>Trends you like
OTT in classic and gothic, the second rise of old school love.
>>Trends you would like to see come back
Oldschool gothic fyeah.
>>Trends you predict will happen in the future
OTT gothic and OTT boystyle.
>>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Alice in wonderland themed shit, fusion styles like cultpartyX lolita and steampunk.

>Trends you hate
Bloomers peaking out from the skirt.
>Trends you like
The royalty stuff. With the sash things and the crowns and the little stick things.
>Trends you would like to see come back
Potluck events at meet ups. Does this count?
>Trends you predict will happen in the future
OTT Gothic and classic will rise.
>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Mother. Fucking. Carousel. Prints.

>>7332847
>Mother. Fucking. Carousel. Prints.

FINALLY SOMEBODY SAID IT. I am so sick of carousel this and carousel that.

>>7332847
>Mother. Fucking. Carousel. Prints.

but anon! theyre so unique! look how totally different they look from each other!

>>7332847
Peeking bloomers isn't a trend. It's normal. Western lolitas made up their own rules and now it's seen as omgdirtay.

>>7332871
I don't think it looks dirty or seductive, I think it looks shoddy and disheveled.

>Trends you hate
the hate on sweet/oldschool, and the need to call a coord with one bad accessory or a simple coord "Ita"
>Trends you like
sheer sleeves, sheer princess style overskirts, hats with lolita
>Trends you would like to see come back
Ita dressup, it was like lolita tacky day and it was great
>Trends you predict will happen in the future
people drowning in so many accessories that you can barely see the print
>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
floral crowns with everything and OTTing every outfit to the death, sometimes, simple is better.

>>7332912
>Ita dressup
This should be an annual thing. Perhaps on April Fools day? And the Saturdays/Sundays after April fools should be for ita themed meet-ups. I miss ita dress up so much.

>>7332847
I remember back when I was first discovering lolita, I bought those Fruits compilation books. In it, there were pictures of lolitas with their bloomers sticking out. Mind you, this was years and years ago, so it's a long-running thing.
I always thought it looked cute, but I didn't like it on me.

>Trends you hate
OTT classic, or whatever the fuck you call it -- with mismatched prints and tons of flowers and shit stuck on there. Pic related. I don't even dislike the way it looks, but it isn't lolita at all, and people need to stop saying it is.
>Trends you like
Chiffon blouses
>Trends you would like to see come back
Natural hair. Wigs were so taboo back when I first joined the fashion, and I've had a hard time adjusting. I just got my first wig the other day (long and split honey blonde/brown), and while I like it, I wish I could have a complete outfit with my normal hair.
>Trends you predict will happen in the future
The rise of gothic (again), the return of maxipad headdresses (but less thick and more elegant)
>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Chocolate. I'm so fucking sick of chocolate.

>>7329326
i like OTT sweet and old school
i dont get the hate for bxw colorway. milanoo lacemonsters have not ruined that colorway. it's the absolute essential old school colorway, seriously. bugs me to no end when people insist my old school iw jsk that's black with white lace is "borderline ita."

>>7332974
Most of the time, those that cry ita at oldschool are those that are just getting into the fashion, and have been taught that anything black with white lace is ita.

>>7329798
sweet will never go away, it's been popular since lolita's inception. the majority of popular prints these days are at least somewhat sweet, if not, usually a hybrid of sweet and classic themes.

>>7329798
As long as there is the market selling sweet then there will be sweet lolitas. As long as there are sweet lolitas, there will be the sweet lolita market.
It's a vicious cycle.

>>7332962

If its not lolita then what is it?

>>7332932
>>7332912
>people actually miss my event
wow, sorry I haven't been posting it, my ex made posting on /cgl/ a hassle for me so I took a break

I'll bring it back next month, on the 8th.
maybe have it be on the first Saturday of every months?
with my bodyline lucky pack recievedl, I have something to participate with

>Trends you hate
I've never really liked old school stuff. I know it's not ita, and there are some coords I've seen that I've liked, but for the most part it just doesn't appeal to me. I feel like a horrible lolita by thinking this.

Also, I don't consider Wa-loli to be a real lolita style. It all looks terrible to me now matter how well made.

>Trends you like
I like more "unusual" prints I guess you could say. I think the jellyfish print KL did was beautiful and I hope there will be more unique prints in the future. I also really like all the deer stuff, printed tights, and flower crowns and more floral hair accessories that all styles have been wearing.

>Trends you would like to see come back
More vintage fur stuff like hats, muffs, collars, coats, hell even a little dead weasel around someone's neck can make an outfit interesting. I think everyone's too afraid to be ridiculed even if they use second hand vintage stuff or animals that were already dead when found which is a shame.

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
I hope to god Meta keeps pushing leopard print stuff until people accept it. I'm sorry I'm a huge sucker for that stuff.

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Skeleton tights and generally creepy cute stuff overall. Also top hats and wee hats need to finish their slow painful death.

>>7333014
I think if Meta keeps pushing it, people will just be like "oh, Meta, pulling their cheesy prints again"
(I fucking love meta's cheesy prints and want to buy some because they crack me up)
but if multiple brands did it, then yes, I could see people accepting that-mainly tumblaroos

>>7332995
I don't know. Maybe it's its own style? It isn't as if there's nothing new under the sun as far as fashion subcultures go.

>>7333029
I tend to dress that way. I personally like it. Its like dolly kei but lolita.

>>7333019
Same here. I died when they came out with Rose Leopard. I need that OP but I'm sure after the sale they just had I'll be able to find it second hand somewhere for cheaper eventually.

I would laugh if leopard print did get popular and then Bodyline would come out with a zebra print or a giraffe or something.

>>7333010
YES
Maybe around febuary 7th or so, by then everyone should get their Lucky Pack

>>7333044
this and bodyline's squirrel party crack me up, as well as that handmade lolita dress that had a bunch of hunks on it, greatest things, if tacky prints were a trend, sign me up, even if its just for shits and giggles

>>7333051
Oh my god squirrel party. That print is so cute and tacky it makes me want to vomit. I did legitimately love typewriting squirrels. Who the fuck thought such a specific thing for a theme? Lmao!

And I need to see this handmade dress. I might of seen it before but I need a good laugh.

>>Trends you hate
RHS
Split wigs
OTT sweet in general

>>Trends you like
Longer dresses with a more victorian silhouette.

>>Trends you would like to see come back
Old school needs to make a comeback. Because if I wear old school, 8/10 I'll be called ita by some newfag.

Also beautiful curly ringlets, because hnnngh they're so pretty.

>>Trends you predict will happen in the future
CyberLoli
The uprising of gothic, leading to many super gosu roris, ne?
A dramatic increase in shitty cosloli

>>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
SPLIT. WIGS.
Those fucking stupid faun shits
Printed dress with different printed tights with loud blouse with brightly colored shoes with giant headgear and oh god is there even a person in this outfit?

>>7333010
It's not your event? Loads of people do it.

>>7333150
I posted the event once a month, and most ita dressup pictures were from the monthly event on /cgl/
yes, loads of people participate in that event. think curiousbear, except everyone in the contest is trying to out ita eachother.
I only found a small handful of girls who did their own ita dressup outside of the /cgl/ event, whom I reblogged to the event tumblr along with actual participants (sorry that was deleted, I'll make a new one if it becomes a thing again)


sage for offtopic

>>7332995
Lolita lenght dolly kei ? This is way too much into dolly key to even remotly looks lolita, even if tgis is totally awesome.

>>7333161
I look forward to it, it's only fun when you make it!

>Trends you hate
Adding random colors to outfits when there's none in the dress/print. Same goes for accessories.
Wrist cuffs around ankles
Shorter and shorter skirts/dresses
Layering tights and socks of two different colors
>Trends you like
The classic/sweet hybrid
Girly sweet prints like Fantastic Dolly and Osanpo Candy Chan
OTT Classic
Corsets and bustiers
Non-print coords be they OTT Sweet or otherwise
>Trends you would like to see come back
Ero (especially in styles other than gothic)
Gothic
Elegant Simplicity (although I like OTT styles, I wouldn't mind seeing more of this)
AP designs circa 2007/9
Stripper heels
Punk (provided it's done well)
More natural colored wigs. I think the idea that you need to match your wig to your outfit is carried out to a silly extent, sometimes.
>Trends you predict will happen in the future
Idk. I think the OTT and "experimental" trends are going to continue. A lot of people seem to be getting tired of them, but they show no sign of losing steam at the moment. I don't mind, I just wish that non-ott or un-experimental coords would stop being dismissed as boring.
>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
I like almost any style if it's done well. I wish print hysteria would die down a little bit. I like prints, but a lot of people wind up buying things because they're popular when in reality, it looks horrible on them.

>Trends you hate
Shitting on anything just because it's gotten a little popular
Posting a co-ord as ita just because it's casual or not OTT

>Trends you like
Mature looking sweet co-ords
The acceptance of a shorter skirt
Chiffon everything
Rococo!

>Trends you would like to see come back
Bloomer peeking
Some sort of ero?
Clunky shoes, headdresses
I want Guro, but then again, I'll be jealous of everyone doing it well who isn't me
I want Lolita to me more experimental and have less rules again! It'll never happen

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
Lots of old school love, and headresses
Realistic wigs and extensions used in natural hair
More combination styles, especially 'Mahou kei'
Hime! So much Hime rising.
The return of Gothloli and Guro

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Fandom Lolita, as in really obvious and terrible rather than subtle
Painting dresses with patterned tights and bag.
Give it about half a year and we'll be bored of royal co-ords, too.

>>7334158
>Hime! So much Hime rising
>Give it about half a year and we'll be bored of royal co-ords, too.

...that seems inconsistent to me, anon, can you clarify?
I want to see more Mahou kei too. I want to wear a big bow and magical girl brooch on my sweet stuff and look like a kawaii animu protag.

>>7335260
You're right I didn't see it that way.
I just know hime is quietly on the rise (lots of people sourcing hime wigs etc) whereas there's already a bunch of well-received royalty co-ords out there.
And so lots of people will start imitating the royal co-ords (I'm already working on my own) which will lead to it going the same way as the fawn theme is heading.

I'm looking forwards to Mahou Kei, it'll probably require bent rules though.

>>7334158
Hime, I think refers to the more Hime Gyaruish look, I see a rise in it's popularity on tumblr as well as more Hime Gyaru wearing lolita dresses. Plus with more popular flower prints like Eternal Rose bouquet and Romantic Rose letter on the rise, I can see more girls trading in their split colored cotton candy wigs for Prisila ones and their tea parties for heart shaped heels. I'm all for more rose prints, chiffon and rococo inspired looks right now.

>Trends you would like to see come back
Themed stuff. I miss Nun lolita and wish witch lolita would be a more permanent thing. It's a bit gimmicky but I get a bit bored with goth nowadays.

>>7335351
speaking of themes I'm in love with this goddamn viking dress
why can't march come sooner i want my sleipnir jsk

>>7329326
>started out in Lolita as a size 14AU
>just managed to get bigger over time due to eating away my problems
>maybe one day I'll fit into your pic related as it's my absolute favourite design ever
>maybe

>>7335351
I love witch lolita dresses, I have quite a few witchy prints but no glorious witch hat yet.

>Trends you hate
Fandom lolita. Although smaller, less obnoxious/garish fandoms could probably do it well if they were so inclined.
Plastic jewelry, fake plastic 'frosting' on things, plastic anything.
And tiny hats, I've always thought they make your head look swollen.
>Trends you like
Big honking ass cathedrals on solid color skirts/dresses. Stained glass. Generally holy/royal things.
Halter JSKs with lapels.
Dresses with plain-ish fronts and highly ruffled and bustled backs.
>Trends you would like to see come back
Good old-school and classic.
Crochet lace, or just ruffles and no lace. (Was this ever a trend?)
>Trends you predict will happen in the future
Somebody is going to hit on realistic birds as a print and everyone will leap at it. Feathers. (Good quality feathers.)
Businessy fabrics and patterns will make a rise. Tweed, wool, pinstripe, etc.
And with those fabrics, military styles, please for the love of god military styles.
And if cufflinks could ever happen in lolita, they need to happen.
>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
People trying to make neon colors work.
(Cheap, out-of-place) antlers and flower crowns. If it fits the coord it's fine but don't slap crappy ones on everything.
Was never a fan of OTT sweet to begin with but now it's getting kind of sickening sweet.

>>7337979
Ass cathedrals sound awesome

>Trends you hate.
Head-eating bows, twin-tails and bows upon bows. It's gone way past the point of elegance and is now even drifting away from being cute.

>Trends you like.
Chocolate prints, the softer pink and beige colourways emerging in classic and the use of more vintage footwear like kitten heels. I feel it looks better than tea-parties and RHS, apart from in sweet or old school co-ords.

>Trends you would like to see come back.
Darker tones or tweed in co-ords, solid-colour dresses with finer details and smaller bows worn at the side.

>Trends you predict will happen in the future.
Since the success of IW's library print, a sudden surge in dresses and accessories for bibliophiles. The post on Fyeahlolita about book head-dresses may not be too far off what I'm thinking.

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out.
Creepycute, pastel goth, pastel wigs with twin-tails (I've not seen a split wig in some time so I think they've already lost popularity) and glittery plastic jewellery.

>Trends you hate
Prints (I hate the new popular trend, sorry), vomit colorful dresses
>Trends you like
Gothic, Victorian
>Trends you would like to see come back
Sweet Gothic
>Trends you predict will happen in the future
Based on characters (like Snow White, Sylveon ...)
And I hope for more victorian
>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Excessive lace and ribbons

>>7338148
>tweed
Yesssss

>>7334104
Watch closet child I have two circa 2007 that I bought for less than $100 together.

>>7328974
>Trends you would like to see come back
Gothic, I barely see anyone in my comm wear it anymore.
>Trends you predict will happen in the future
OTT Gothic

>Trends you hate
painting dresses. it's just slapping a painting on a dress, and it just looks weird and discolored on a dress.
also creepy-cute shit
>Trends you like
I like rose/flower and extravagant head stuff 9think Sweet Mildred)
>Trends you would like to see come back
some rectangle head dresses were cute and tasteful, maybe they could come back.
>Trends you predict will happen in the future
book accessories
unfortunately, OTT gothic/classic.
>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
skeleton tights, mis-matched OTT sweet coords (random sweets, bows, and shit. just stick with one food, if you're going to do it.)

>Trends you hate
Creepy cute, pastel goff, jellies that look like dollar store kid shoes, ballet flats that look cheap.
>Trends you like
Royal style accessories! More Gothic showing up, oldschool appreciation, Creepy when it's not cute.
>Trends you would like to see come back
Rectangular headdresses, chunky platforms and buckle boots, more Madame or feminine Aristo
>Trends you predict will happen in the future
More crappy mashups of Lolita x ~insert weird other weeb/fandom interest~, more grown up styling of sweet prints (but not motifs), steampunk x Lolita (unfortunately)
>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die
out
Skeleton tights, most people who wear them wear them oddly with the patella down on their shin. OTT sweet with babyish styling. CPK mashup needs to stop.

>Trends you hate
creepy cute/pastel goth
painting prints
fandom lolita
skeleton tights
plastic anything

>Trends you like
rococo/princessy looking coords
flower crowns
flowers and nature themes in general
extravagant headdresses
toned down/classical sweet

>Trends you would like to see come back
gothic
old school
ringlets
themed lolita
rectangle headdresses
guro that's more creative than just shiro with fake blood splattered on it
ero that's more creative than just bloomers and a corset
chunky shoes
simple prints and solid color dresses with lots of detail

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
more classic lolita
lolita mixed with whatever the next popular jfashion is
different lengths and silhouettes becoming more excepted
natrual color hair (or color hair that's not eye-bleedingly bright)
mahou kei

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
OTT sweet
split wigs
star clips on everything
bittersweet lolita
painting dresses

>Trends you hate:
skeleton tights, especially when there is nothing else in the coord to support the skeleton theme.
Overly printed prints on top of prints with a side of printed prints. I do like prints, love them in fact, but printed tights, dress, bag, bow, everything can just be too much look.
That weird bow that mysteriously grows out of the belly button. They can look good with sweet but generally non AP ones look derpy and awkward (I am looking at you BTSSB)
overly huge flower crowns

>Trends you like:
lace, texture, florals, pintucks, metallic and glitter, mixing vintage pieces with loli, flocking, v shaped waists, sashes (not the crossways over the shoulder sash, but ribbon belts), tea length, moderately sized flower hairpieces, embroidery, ribbon roses, painting dresses

>Trends you would like to see come back:
I hope for a spring filled with floral chiffon

>Trends you predict will happen in the future:
I don't know if I predict, but I hope for:
jewel tones, more variety in fabrics, textures, brocades, embroidery, ribbon roses (please), longer lengths (sorry shorties), lots of lace detailing, a rise in ops with elbow length and longer sleeves, non prints with amazing detail and design may become just as coveted as their printed counterparts.
I also see a trend toward not having to fit a look into a predetermined style with a name (today I am wearing sweet pirate mori with a cpk twist, ugh). I don't care what you call it, as long as it looks great.
I predict more vintage elements creeping into classic and some backlash that classic is becoming too much its own creature and is no longer loli. few fucks will be given.

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out:
I think the belly button bow is dying out. AP is somehow the only brand that makes them look right and they have been moving away from them in the past year in favor of cleaner lined and higher waistlines. I don't think that BTSSB will let it go any time soon though.

>Trends you hate
Anything "crossover" lolita. I like the shows, just not in my lolita.
OTT Sweet for "casual" or "meet" wear. Seeing OTT sweet outside of conventions makes me cringe.
The long wigs with the clip ins... They make everyone's head look lost in all that hair.

>Trends you like
Natural looking wigs. I'm one of those people who has VERY difficult hair, so the wig trend came as a blessing. But I only like natural colours...
Flowers and small flower crowns. Absolutely love them.

>Trends you would like to see come back
Cute rectangle headdresses.
The lace topped sold white-OTKs, those were the shit. I remember dishing out $45 for an IW pair, I still have them but I'm hesitant to wear them now since a lot of people seem to think they look ita.

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
Sweet toning down. I'm already seeing it lot, more and more muted pastels.
Less busy prints.
Lots of deer. Lots and lots of deer. (this may or may not be biased towards me wanting a lot more deer prints)

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
People wearing bear/bunny/cat ears. I've just been noticing it recently but it irks me. That used to be the #1 no-no.
Surprisingly, I like jellies. I just don't like the sparkly ones. Once you add sparkles it looks too much like something a five year old would wear...

>>7349680
Huh. People always used to say, "save ott for meets and conventions, not daily wear! (And then some choice ageplay insults)

Now it's not even apprpriate "meet" wear? And makes you cringe at a meet? Jfc I don't know, I guess I really don't mind still seeing well done ott sweet at meets. I think it's nice to see a mix of styles ott or not.

>>7349872
Different anon here--I always figured it depends on the meet. OTT sweet totally makes sense at fancier/more intense meets like special events or teas, etc. But it might not make any sense at say...a picnic or craft meet?

Its nice to see at meets, especially because not everyone who wears lolita cares for conventions.

>>7349882
>>7349872
Yeah, that's what I meant. Like fancy meets, I usually just call them tea-parties/the official title if it's not a tea party, since it's a more formal gathering. OTT can be fine (as long as you don't have baby doll heads in your hair) in those cases. I'm talking more... Getting together for a small lunch or just essentially really casual things, though? Like 'we're here to eat food and shop around for a bit, why are you wearing a giant two-toned pastel wig, 12 petticoats, and a million rings?' It tends to look very costumey and it can be a bit off putting. Especially since those girls are the most likely to complain, "Ah, my wig's itchy/too heavy! My petticoats keep knocking things over!" etc. etc.
Meanwhile, everyone else is fine because they dressed for the occasion.
I don't know, maybe it's a personal bias of mine because OTT looks very costume-y to me.
(ps pic related, to give some context, this is what I picture when I hear OTT sweet.)

>>7330224
THIS. I quite like the subtle fandom lolita coords where they've just taken the colour palette and maybe small accessories or motifs but when it's something like the SnK uniforms done with frills and a skirt? Ugh. I'd like to see more fandom lolita outfits where it's the small subtle things that will make a fan notice what it's from but not go screamin around the place being all "LOOK AT ME I AM A LOLITA FROM -------- AM I KAWAII YET?"

>>7349872
I dunno cuz, you can't please everyone so I just started brushing such comments off as assburgery whining.

>>7330166
>clip on stars
God damn you anon, I never noticed them until you pointed it out- now I see them fucking everywhere, it's like no coord is complete without a randomly placed star clip.

When I first got into the fashion four years ago, I was hooked on classic and old school sweet. Then I discovered OTT sweet last year, or rather grew to appreciate it more. Then I got hooked.

I've spent shit tonnes of money on OTT sweet accessories. Like hell I'm just going to throw them all away because some people think it's going out of fashion. I love OTT sweet.

>>7350896
Following fashion trend in such a niche fashion like lolita is totally stupid. As long as you do OTT well, do it and don't care.

>Trends you hate
Super infant-tier prints. AP, stawp. I want some elegant stuff. I also wish sweet in general would calm down.

>Trends you like
I actually like flower crowns and pastel goth in concept... I think they need better execution, but. Also, I love the use of bones and shit. Even skeleton tights, but I wish people would at least stop buying the very very cliche skeleton tights everyone else has. There are literally other skeleton tights with the same concept that look wayyyy better.

>Trends you would like to see come back
Old school. All old school. Especially gothic with the headdresses. I want maxi pad headdresses, idgaf if they look like pads. Gimme.

>Trends you predict will happen in the future
With the guro thread ( >>7340833 ) right now, I'm hoping guro lolita will happen... Like. GOOD guro lolita/horror lolita. I really like the ideas over there.

>Trends that are getting repetitive and need to die out
Pastel vomit.

>>7350914
>stawp
stop.

>>7350944
stuhp?