/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

You need pouches, son.
Lots of them.

now you know

Because period shoes are expensive

>>7303945
They are expensive.
Too bad that looks retarded as fuck.

>>7303951
well you dont make THESE gaiters.
You just get the gist of it and then make em proper
after a few tries

>>7303929
what my well educated colleague tried to say that the we larpfags at /tg/ decided that this should be a good time to take a little field-trip to /cgl/ and start a larp thread here to talk about stuff you made for larps, post pictures and tell the stories.
Among other things

>>7303951
period shoes basically have three qualities:
comfortable, durable, cheap.
You can only choose two.

>>7303945
Good idea, but badly executed. This would be better with actual calf or knee length boots.

>>7303962
yyyeah. Field trip.
Disregard the flag and guns.

Hi, I'm Anon. You may remember me from such designs as "wolfguard medic" and "Hippocalypse".

>>7303970
I don't know about you but around here going on a field trip and then conquering the shit out of the place is something we did back in the time

Wait, we're on /cgl/ now? Do native seagulls even care about this sort of thing?

>>7303979
Well I am at it again, trying to design some new outfit!

>>7303982
It says LARPing goes here in their sticky so... Maybe?

>>7303945
Looks like hildekitten's fucking spats (my own design, made by me)

>>7303982
says so in their sticky.
LARP is ok here.

>>7303991
>>7303988
Yeah but /cgl/ is mostly for girls and LARP is mostly a guy game.

>>7303982
every time I started a larpthread here they were interested.

>>7303995
Maybe in your country

>>7304001
OCTODAD DEMANDS WENCHES!

>>7303995
... and?
mind you, I were on larps where most of the players were female.
And as absurd as it may sounds when I try to recruit people for larping I found out that recruiting sane females are way easier than recruiting sane males

>>7303991

>>7304006
FINE wenches!

>>7304010
What?
You sure?

>>7303995
As far as I know it is popular regardless of gender.

>>7303929
Uh, it is here or DiY to ask about making iron helmets in your garage? I would be interested.

>>7304019
pretty sure

>>7304027
oh man, you gotta learn blacksmithing for that shit.
or make a fake one.

>>7304027
you could ask I'm pretty sure sooner or later we can get a blacksmith here but it's not something that you can just make it in your garage and you need years of experience to make something that looks really good

>>7304027
Here might work, I personally plan on taking a course on armor making in the future(either this summer or next) since there is a place not too far from here that teaches it. But generally it takes quite a few tools to make, plus it would be beneficial to have a forge to do it, not required but it definitely helps.

>>7304033

>>7304038
Yeah, that is another thing, you can make one with little experience but it probably won't look great. I personally have only made shit like tables, candle holders and one really heavy, rough looking, historically inaccurate shield.

>>7304045

>>7304034
Well, I was looking to make one of iron and stuff, but this thing doesn't look that bad. How expensive would be to make one like a great healm, I wonder...
>>7304040
>>7304038
Thanks guys, I was looking to make one mor basic than a sallet, like a great helm or something like this. But a paper one could be fun and probably cheaper to make.

>>7304047

>>7304046
On another note, I am working on making my own coal forge so I can get back into making stuff and actually do some decent stuff out so I can get a job with a smith who actually knows something.

Pic is the shield I mentioned in last post.

>>7304055
is that all metal?

Is there some sort of bigger scene in Sweden of people who do this sort of Landsknecht-style thing? I'm guessing that most of the photos in this thread are from such events.

>>7304053

>>7304057
Yeah, I knew shit about shields when I made it, so it is more decorative then anything. I probably became infertile while making it too, it billowed coal smoke like mad.

>>7304060

>>7304058
yes there is. Krigshjärta is the name if I'm not mistaken. Although maybe Eterna is there too. And Kriegslive in Denmark afaik

>>7304062

>>7304063
krigshjarta is the knechtiest.
Eterna only has a little bit of knecht.
they also have kilt-apes.
Knechtkilt-apes... my god

>>7304073
I think they have well enough knechting

>>7304066

>>7304079

>>7304080
he knechted pretty good

>>7304081

>>7304085

Ok, enough fun for me now.
Brothers and sisters, I need help. I need inspiration for a lands-knecht battle-butler!
wat do?

>>7304084
>hey kid, wanna knecht?

>>7304085
Hungarian LARPfag, I have a question for you. Are LARPs during the winter, with lots of snow on the group something people do, or are people wimps?

>>7304088
you betcha!

>>7304094
if they have facilities: yes.
A winter-larp gone wrong is what smothered larp in northenr norway during it's infancy.

Anyone care to summon Gropey?

>>7304097
Makes sense, I wouldn't want to camp in this shit.

>>7304102
I would but I don't have any virgins around...

>>7304094
weeeeeell.... Larps during winter happens. Although winter larps are often fight oriented and shorter but I were on larps that were the standard three days long time and not fight oriented.

The tricky thing is getting snow. Last year this time I went to Croatia to the game called Terra Nova. it was an awesome game but no snow.
And JUST when we started to pack and go home the snow started to fall. We had the second biggest snowstorm in the last decade that time (the biggest snowstorm came months later during march)

>>7304090
what do you need help with? recruiting someone or you want to be that someone?

>>7304096
indeed

>>7304063
>nly has a little bit of knecht.
>they also have kilt-apes.
>Knechtkilt-apes...

Could i get some links to their websites and possible resources on this subject? Me and my friends are very interested in Landsknechts and german renaissance.

Also, are there any good shoe tutorials? I've understood that mostly 'knechts used the Cow's mouth-style shoes but weren't sort of slightly taller boots also used by nobles for example when riding?

>>7303987
>must be custom ordered
Or you could make it.

>>7304106
Larping in the snow is awesome and adds another layer of depth, because keeping warm and fighting the elements is a very real part of the game.

It also weeds out people who don't put effort into their kit.

>>7304010
That's a lot of words for "Rape". But none of us are literate in-character so I'll take your word for it.

>>7304122
Oh hey that was quick, did someone offer up a virgin faun?

>>7304108
>Also, are there any good shoe tutorials? I've understood that mostly 'knechts used the Cow's mouth-style shoes but weren't sort of slightly taller boots also used by nobles for example when riding?

funny, we know those ones around here as bear-foot shoes.

Also I did a little bit of research on the subject of landsknecht shoes because I want to be a landsknecht reenactor and I have to tell you the sad thing:
landsknecht footsoldiers doesn't really wore taller boots, but yes the ritters did used taller ones.

on pic you can see the only kind of boots that were kind of higher and covered your ankle, to some degree. I also have that kind of boots, shown here >>7303966 I could make a better pic about it if you want it.

about the larps I'm pretty sure some of the larpers from the nordic area will tell you more about them

I dont know how to feel about this...

Are we welcome on this board?

it's not like we are really welcome anywhere else

So yeah...

>>7304122

>>7304108
krigshjarta.com and eterna.nu

>>7304121
nah, it would only look shitty.
I'd rather save up some cash and get one that looks FABULOUS!
Besides, I have so many clothes and leathers to do...

>>7304129
Faun...yes...since we are on /cgl/ now... faun becomes...


GROPEY YOU SNEAKY BASTARD!

>>7304124
kind of

>>7304127
Well, my two cents: While LARP is officialy welcomed on this board, and there is also a historic clothing thread, I would tone back the constant "rape rape rape" that you guys seemed to cram in the first dozen posts.

Seriously, its like you guys took ever dick and rape meme and crammed it into the first half of the thread. On this board, its a great way to wear out your welcome, and lose some potential players and knowledge.

>>7304129
Nope, my email and facebook just exploded.

Hi /tg/, thanks for the new costume porn.

So just curious -- how much do you guys prioritize sturdiness over comfort and looks? Most seagulls don't end up actually using their armor or props so making them out of foam and other light/cheap materials is the way to go. But LARPers have to fight in their gear, right?

>>7304127
if you mean larpers then yes. Larpers are welcomed on /tg/ and /cgl/. Also I think it has a bigger culture over at /tg/

>>7304142
Here is a hint: Real clothing and real armour is designed for both comfort and longevity.

Costumes are temporary. Clothing is meant to be worn repeatedly.

>>7304142
The more metal the more metal, really.

It gotta take a beating and look good at the same time.

>>7304142
It depends on the LARP or what have you I would think, some things that are a bit more heavy hitting such as SCA(although technically not LARP) would require armour that is more sturdy, but for some people the armour must also be accurate.

>>7304141
>"Tone down the rape jokes"
>Gropey the clown

Guys... I think we went too far...

>>7304142
Larpers "fight" in the gear, but it's not HEMA (for that go to /asp/). The stuff you're getting hit with is mostly foam and padding, and there's no bonus points for how hard you hit, so your armor doesn't have to be super protecting. When people use actual metal armor, it's for looks/authenticity more than because it hurts to get hit with a boffer.

There are some idiots that'll smack the fuck out of you, but they're generally reviled and told to shape the fuck up, so are pretty rare at established events.

>>7304142
Sturdy is a YES.
Because there IS going to be running. and probably FIGHTING.
In the shrubberies, in the woods and among the rocks.
Well... if you play that sort of role...A noble sitting on his ass negotiating and signing papers all days can sacrifice durability for style

>>7304160
>suggesting going to /asp/bergers

No. Just trust me.

>>7304141
>Seriously, its like you guys took ever dick and rape meme and crammed it into the first half of the thread. On this board, its a great way to wear out your welcome, and lose some potential players and knowledge.

I understand but we can't really help it, /tg/ has a history with rape jokes. Also I think we just barely scratched the surface there

>>7304142
the main difference between cosplay costumes and larp costumes I think is that cosplay go for the look first and foremost and larpers go for practicality first and foremost.
That said you can achieve both but in general terms most cosplay stuff won't survive a larp and most larp stuff doesn't look that good.
Also there are a lot of metal armors on larps, plastic and foam ones are not that common, but that has little to do of the fight, it's because most of them are not experienced foamcrafters so they can't make a believable armor out of those materials

>>7304159
Psh! He's just tryin' t'be dyplomatick.

>>7304142
Sturdiness and comfort goes together if it's well made

i'm more of a Historical stuff larper so i dont know about fantasy stuff that may be far from pratical but i'm really comfortable in my city suit and in my armor , if your armor hurt you just by wearing it, imagine the damages you will get when you get hit

Pic related

>>7304166
You've been here before Hungarian. You know better.

>>7304167
Oi'll Krump ya gitz if youz aint!

>>7304142
Well opersonally I won't be caught with some of the quick n dirty tricks I've seen at Cosplay, duct-tape/Stapler "stitcing"...

>>7304160
Also durability, we did have a very experiences and quite talented cosplay crafter throw a fit when his styrofoam and wall-Spackle armour got wrecked...
Turn out rigid and crumbly materials aren't all the impact resistant.

>>7304126

Friends have made a couple of those Bear paw/cow's mouth shoes and they commented that they really should've exaggerated the measurements a bit so they hold on to your foot a bit better.

Though, guess it's a possibility that maybe the shoes were sewn into the hosen maybe. Hard to say because we only have the woodcuts for reference.

Also, this is more /cgl/ related than most of my pic now

>>7304001

Can this arquebus/rifle shoot anything, maybe just blasts of gunpowder or some sort of safe projectiles?

Also, there has been some photos of different sorts of war-machines. What do they shoot in general?

>>7304175

>>7304175
Say that to my noggin and not online, see what happens.

>>7304181
cannons and hand-cannons at krigshjarta use showy powder. the pistols and muskets use ...like...start-pistol caps I think?

>>7304179
I got more of the White Lions

>>7304137
Somebody said fauns?

>>7304185
My Waaagh is bigger.

>>7304181
depends

Canon like this shoot foam ball using a air-pressure mechanism (makes a nice big boom sound)

There are other canon that use propane (even bigger boom sound)

balista shoot big arrows and only a small percentage of them are nice to look at (i hate ballistas)

and Arquebuse (atleast at Bicolline) shoot foam ball using a air pump mechanism

>>7304187

>>7304195
Just chill, orco

>>7304201
Gropey said we can't make rape joke but...

Praise Slaaneesh

>>7304202

>>7304201
You sure you want to go down this path Anon?

>>7304207
DON'T USE THAT WORD! THAT IS A WORD OF OPPRESSION!

GREEN POWER!

>>7304198

Hmm.. that cannon looks really good AND if it uses air pressure it should be a pretty safe thing too.

>>7304209
Spoilers don't work here.

>>7304212
I'm generally liked here, so don't get too creepy.

>>7304173
>Though, guess it's a possibility that maybe the shoes were sewn into the hosen maybe. Hard to say because we only have the woodcuts for reference.
no we don't we have other sources as well. written ones too.
and they weren't sewn into the shoes. none of the cloths were.
About the stuff it's important to run-in your shoes. I mean you have to put it on then step in water, wear it while wet and walk/run in it.

This of course only works if it's made out vegetable tanned leather and not modern chrome tanned leather. In the later case it will do absolutely nothing. If it's vegetable tanned then you can shape it to your foot.

also can you tell me what kind of problems did you guys find with the shoes? MAybe I can help where you made a mistake

>>7304201
Also looking at this makes me wish Ze Nun would cut her hair short... sad life...sad life...

Pic unrelated...are stuff like that permited?..i mean it IS a huge dick in foam

>>7304218
Have another one.
Also, it's a dude.

>>7304219
But you're the one who chases faun girls through the woods!

>>7304224
>Is getting better and better.

>>7304224
No, its a girl who identifies as male so tumblr will like her.

>>7304224
I'mokwiththat.jpg

Also , more larp pics

>>7304224
Where do you think we a-
oh wait... we're at /cgl...

>>7304224
That rumour is going around, but I think I've seen a full bodied picture of the person in it and she definitely has boobies.

Not that it would stop me if she was a dude.

>>7304233
Well shit, there went my interest

So the kriegshjärtä is more larp-like, but is there also Landsknecht-reenactment scene in sweden?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew2V_SKewDg

Like, is this video from some sort of gathering where different groups gather or is this by some one larger group?

>>7304217
also here is a better picture of my shoes but I didn't had the time to use it so far

>>7304233
A Pre-op tranny you say.

also Landsknecht approved high-boots

>>7304224
Figured I might as well drop the rest of the set while I'm at it.

>>7304257

>>7304257
That picture reminds me that I should probably get on finding a book on the basics of swordfighting, but I am poor and all the /rs/ downloads for such things are broken.

>>7304245

Btw, have you seen this dude's work? Renaissance-era mountaing climbing and hunting thingies. The page are pretty hard to navigate but man, does the produce some cool stuff.

http://mailmaker.tripod.com/climbing/index.html

Some more of this clothing

http://mailmaker.tripod.com/garb/index.html

>>7304268
I'll dump Fechtbuch guides in /tg/ after I grab a smoke.

>>7304268
It happens that I have two maiar books in a pdf among other things. And you can find a lot of useful videos on youtube. Better to watch it in motion than to try to figure out the pics (moresoe because the books wasn't meant to be figured out alone without a master)

>>7304259

>>7304268
Just don't expect to be able to pull anything after having read Talhoffer et al. once. We get enough of those people as is.

>>7304259
Out of curiosity, how are creatures like fauns generally received at LARP and the like? I enjoy making digitigrade legs and faun-esque costumes so...

>>7304268
naaaah, grab shield, squash yourself in a frontline and stay alive
OR
Grab a spear , poke the enemy , try not to die


MEDIEVAL WARFARE LADIES AND GENTS

>>7304271
holy fuck.
You can have like 100 of my internets for those links

>>7304273
>>7304275
Alright, thanks both of you, Ill probably combine videos and books. Any suggested channels?

>>7304279
I try my best to stay humble, so I won't be claiming to know much even after a long time of learning.

>>7304281
never saw one at bico ...

Or maybe i did but i did not notice it (there is a lot of people)

But i guess i'd roleplay it like any other Xeno races

Death to Xenos!

>>7304283
I hope to do tourney stuff as well though, and frontline battle experience may or may not translate well for that

>>7304285
depends on what kind of stuff you want to lear, but schola gladiatoria is generally good same with hammaborg

and here you can see LK approved shoes again

>>7304282

Also check out everything he has on his page. The page is old as hell and hard to navigate, but there are lots of cool things hidden there in illogical places.

I think that guys is some american SCA-dude, but seriously he has produced some of the coolest german renaissance-things i have ever seen.

>>7304292
Hammaborg is a new one too me so Ill look that up as well. I know Skallagrim is hoping to make some tutorial videos in the future so we will see how nice those are.

>>7304281
Perfectly fine at my games, though we try to keep fae beings as NPC's to keep the feeling of "otherness"

>>7304304
Yup, he plays SCA and is a member of the Armour archive.

Hey swedes, how big are your biggest foam-fighting combat events, in participants?

>>7304304
yes he is pretty much awesome.
Although... do you speak german? Because I have a handy little document that the Landsknechts on drachenfest put together as a minimum standard to join to their group. And a lot of them is Landsknecht reenactors.
Also they are generally awesome guys, I had the privilege to escort them to prisone after they caused a little commotion

>>7304281
That really depends on how well-made it is.
If you manage to pull off a good costume, I'd go for it. Digitigrade legs are always a plus.

>>7304313
>eye on the eyepatch
Nice.

>>7304281
It has to be pretty good quality to work well. Obviously, if you can't run and fight in it, your role is going to be pretty limited.

sure is fey in here...
Say how would you dress up a 16th century drug-dealer?

>>7304319
Can you post it somewhere? I studied something like 10 years of german in school but naturally my skills have diminished quite a lot.

>>7304335
here it is with another LK footwear

http://www.kulueke.net/pics/larp/landsknechte/landsknechtleitfaden.pdf

>>7304325
Yeah, I try to make things as easy to move in as possible, and adding a staff in for balance always helps. I like going all the way for digitigrade legs, stilts and all, not just shaping foam around my legs.
>>7304314
NPCs seem more my speed anyway, so that's kind of a good thing.

>>7304319
Do they still mourn Korporal Schneckler?

>>7304343
Hey thanks, this will help our group a lot

>>7304343
also if anyone can produce an english version out of that then I would even consider trading that for sexual favors

>>7304346
sadly I don't know as I didn't had too much time to speak with them. Matter of fact I don't speak german at all. So I constantly had to hire an interpreter or find someone who speaks english.
Regardless I helped them a little after the orks went all Dynamic Entry on them

>>7304361
I filled out one of those forms... in the name of another group... saying they want Landsknechte in their bed.

I even brought home a blank one

>>7304358
>Dynamic Entry
storytiem?

Gropey, do you have the same name on facebook?

In otherwords, there is a dude in Guelph who teaches armour making, should I take his course first chance I get?
http://www.thak.ca/

So, how about helmets and armour?

Are there any online stores that sell Burgonets or other renaissance-era armour?

>>7304367
Just can't decide whether to got with "to lay with no Landsknechsts", or "to lay with any number of Landsknechsts"

>>7304370
Other news, rather.

>>7304358
Too bad. I really hoped somebody knew if they kept doing it, even if it was kind of silly.

>>7304368
nothing that interesting. The landsknechte went to attack the gold camp they formed up and everything then the orcs from their camp ran out and went all dynamic entry on them, jumping at the polearms and stuff like them.
It was quiet entertaining to watch them as both group is kind of hardcore ones so they allow themselves to do more things than against other players who may or may not know nothing about fighting.

The Landsknechte had to retreat but it was interesting to see that these guys practiced a lot and they pulled of a pretty good and organized retreet, leaving the wounded to the care of the field hospital as they had insurance and the rest of the group walked back to their camp as I said in an organized manner minimizing the casulties

>>7304381
tell me more

>>7304374
I think it's pretty much obvious

These faun gifs you are posting are the most retarded and ugly shit I've seen in a while.

Whats going on here, DAMN YES FAUNS!
Oh and hello Seagulls!

>>7304394
Haha, indeed.

>>7304398
How long your mirrors been busted?

>>7304402
feathers, feathers everywhere

>>7304406
also there was one time when we saw four or five landsknechte sitting at a table with their hats on and you literally couldn't see what they were doing, playing cards, drinking, or killing someone.
Judging by the sounds they were doing all of those things at once

Anyone here going to Wasteland Weekend this year?

>>7304414
Do people make these sort of medieval-style marching drums themselves or do they buy them from somewhere? If there are instructions/patterns or stores, i'm interested

>>7304394
In short, in 2010, I think, the Landsknechts adopted a snail they found on one of their guns.
Even made him a beret and started calling him Korporal Hannes(?) Schneckler - which went well for a few days until somebody stepped on him. Cue most of the camp holding a funeral service and mourning him on multiple DFs afterwards.

>>7304421
I'm pretty sure they do both of that, although I don't know shit on musical instruments.

>>7304423
Alright, now I know what excuse I will use to go to their inn.

>>7304423
>>7304435
Here's a picture of the tombstone, by the way.

>>7304437
and it's still there!

>>7304330
Questionable alchemist or apothecary.

>>7304345
Well, my larp, Lost Stories and Dark Tales is based in VA, and the facebook for the group is in this post's email field.

>>7304370
No, but if you want to contact, my email is here. >>7304314

>>7304421
you can buy them cheap and easily enough.
http://www.medievalcollectables.com/c-443-percussion-instruments.aspx

>>7304437
What of the murderous fiend, did his crime ever see justice?

>>7304444
MAYBE he made it to the cannons... then again maybe the cannons weren't needed in the next fight

>>7304439
Is it true you have a thing for girls in faun costumes? Whats this about hunting them?

>>7304453
He also got me into fauns. The cad!

>>7304456
I'm still neutral on the subject of fauns

>>7304444
I don't think anybody found out who did it, not that I know of, at least.

>>7304343

This Landsknecht-manual, is this like temporarily hosted on your site or is a permanent thing on this page? I mean, can i link this to my friends or should i upload it myself to somewhere for future use.

Also, so, is there one or many Landsknecht-style groups in Drachenfest(i've understood that you're discussing things that happened there)

>>7304471
that pdf is on the site of the Landsknecht camp from Drachenfest so I think it's pretty much permanent. (it didn't changed since I found it)

On Drachenfest there is one Landsknechte camp and you have to talk with the leaders there in one way or another to join them. They have requirements on cloths and weapons and such to join them, as far as I know this pdf contains most those requirements and a little help on how to meet them.

It's not reenactor level stuff but very high quality for a larp

>>7304485
Do you have any info on contacts to the leaders of the group?
We are just working to get our group started for next summer, but if we get our own thing going, i'm guessing that we'd be interested on international events too at some point.

and Drachenfest looks like a thing that should be experienced at least once, AND if we can do it in Landsknecht-style company, more the better

>>7304510
as far as I know you can contact them here
http://landsknechtlager.forumprofi.de

also if you didn't make it to the LK camp then I will be probably at the harbourquarter with a group of people. May or may not we will join up with the Ankh-Morkporian city watch (awesome people from Spain)
Just follow the Cock and Swallow

>>7304510
I believe the easiest way to contact them would be at http://landsknechtlager.forumprofi.de

>>7304510
their email is landsknechtlager@gmx.de afaik.
They also have a forum http://landsknechtlager.forumprofi.de/index.php, but as that is mostly in German you will probably be better off via mail initially.

>>7304453
Its exactly what it sounds like. After discovering faun cosplayers, and joking about how "I'd totally hunt her!", some ca/tg/irls messaged me about being interested in such a thing.

It is well known that I am a historic hunter, so we organized games where I set harmless snares and such in a stretch of woods, and give them a 30 minute head start, before I track and try to catch them before they can get to the home base.

For the more skilled cross country runners and those who know the woods well, I got a hold of an old home-ec baby simulator, that will cry when jostled too much or things get too loud, to simulate a baby being stolen by the fae for a changling.

Its some intense fun. The faun hunts eventually evolved into the Lost Stories and Dark Tales where the Fae and the woods is a key theme.

>>7304521
>Ankh-Morkporian city watch

You have my undivided attention.

>>7304553
I wanna do this but you'd catch me too easy.

>>7304554
did I tell you the story when they were ordered to guard the blue camp's gate so they just organized a big ass party right at the gate? So any attacker during the night would had to go through 40-50 people who were there pretty much awake and with weapons and such.
Also from the Triumvirate camp a smaller group come to us that we are partying too hard and maybe we should do it a little less louder.
It's generally a bad idea to bring less people for this than the number of the partying group.

Also later one of them sneaked into the triumvirate camp (the guard at the door asked for identification and he just told him that he left it at his tent) Stole a piece of rock from there (foam rocks that are thrown at the attackers from the walls) and some-when around 4 am they just threw it at the head of one of the triumvirate guards at their tower.

As I said they are awesome people and I met them during a bar brawl (I was the one who started the brawl...)

So Drachenfest is mainly a german event? How many participants usually from abroad take part?

>>7304592
Drachenfest is one of the biggest larps in the world and it takes place in Geramny.
They have usually between 5-8000 participants and it's a one week event.
They have people ALL over the world, I don't have numbers on that but I think it's safe to say that 25% of the people at least are from abroad.

>>7304592
No more than 10% if I were to make a guess, probably less (if we don't count Austrians and Swiss that is). While most of the event is held in German, usually though enough people speak English if you ask them, or someone willing to translate can be found without much effort. I've seen quite a few people attend that didn't speak a word of German and did get by perfectly.

>>7304601
>(if we don't count Austrians and Swiss that is)
well... yeah, that would change a few things. but thechnically they count as from abroad

>>7304592
Well, yeah. There's still a significant amount of people from abroad though, nobody will bat an eye at you speaking English.
>>7304609
Technically they do, but it's not the same thing, really. Outside of their funny dialects they're virtually indistinguishable.

>>7304609
Yeah but as the German, Austrian and Swiss larping scene is relatively intertwined for purposes of larp I wouldn't really count them as abroad.
I mean you can't really distinguish them from German larpers apart from the accent, and the same amount of 'language barrier' will exist between a north and south German larper, so....

Generally I'd say the biggest truly foreign nationalities at Drachenfest are Spaniards and Italians. Everyone else usually partakes in relatively small numbers.

>>7304614
and yet back in the time if swiss mercenaries and german mercenaries met it was pretty much clear that one of the motherfuckers WILL die

>>7304619
>I mean you can't really distinguish them from German larpers apart from the accent
funny thing is that at the LK camp you can distinguish the swiss people from the german by their clothing, or at least most of the time

>>7304623
You mean with the localized historic symbols? Or some sort of other small details? I just know that first were the swiss Reisläufer, and then came the landsknechts.

>>7304626
well technically in the camp everyone is a landsknecht or so am I told but the decoration and the "cuts" on their cloths are different.
Or so am I told

>>7304623
>>7304631
Yeah but that's a very specific case where you have them going for historical costumes from their specific regions. With most other roles that isn't really the case.

>>7304626
>>7304631
They also generally don't sport the saltire and wear slightly less tricked out clothing.

>>7304637
well, yeah... But I like the landsknechts so it's an important thing to me, and a fascinating one
The little things like this make it really alive and awesome

>>7304643
Yeah agreed. The Landsknechts are awesome people. I really like them.

>>7304637
Are there any info available on these sort of "localizations"
(did they sometimes identify themselves to be from certain parts of germany by using well, heraldic animals/colours/etc. in their flag or such)

>>7304653
I am sadly not an expert in that regard. If you are really interested in such details you should probably try to find some literature on the topic or get in contact with reenactment groups.
I am merely a simple larper that enjoys their outfits and antics.

How do I find a larping group in my area? (I've tried googling but no luck. I'm also in Hawaii so I'm prepared for there not to be one at all.)

>>7304439
So how does your larp work without levels and hp?

I love larp and I love these threads - resident CGL'er whose day is made everytime a new larp thread pops up. Sage because no contribution other than undying love.

>>7304670
Let me google that for you.
http://role-playing-larp.meetup.com/cities/us/hi/honolulu/

>>7304671
A hell of a lot better. Honestly, combat is dangerous, and being smart helps in LS&DT

>>7304672
So why sage it? Keep it bumped!

>>7304676

>>7304671
Fight well and wear armour or die.

Hits to un-armoured limbs are crippling, hits to torso/head are lethal.

You "level up" by improving actual skill so you won't die like a bitch.

>>7304680

>>7304683
Don't forget, being able to bluff, being sneaky, or just being a good negotiator help too.

Then there is the options of magic, arrows and bullets.

Finally, you don't need to out run the troll, just the slowest member of your party.

>>7304688

>>7304688
In short, "skill".
Knowing when not to fight's a vital martial skill too.

Any good tutorials on net for Landsknecht-clothing?

http://germanrenaissance.net/free-patterns-for-16th-century-german-renaissance-clothing-and-accessories/

Here are some, but i would like to know if there are more somewhere.

>>7304694
It sums up a lot of the rules.

We set real, harmless traps to disarm or avoid. Locks are all puzzles of various difficulties. Injuries need to be bandaged if you lack magic etc etc.

>>7304676
Oh, thank you! But it looks like there's only some kind of vampire thing... I'm kind of afraid of going anywhere near that, I've heard some stories about retards actually biting each other.

>>7304701
Ya, I know, can't believe I didn't notice I've been nameless for hours, only remembers it on /tg/

>>7304705
Vampire larps tend to be the most drama-llama ridden dorkfests, but sometimes stories are just that.

Just google "Hawaiian larps" and look.

>>7304712
Vampire larp are only good if you're looking to get laid with girls who have daddy issues

>>7304705
Vampire live's a rather diverse group with a huge gaps between groups, there are drama-llamas, bored goths, true "Wampyres" and people that just want to play undead assholes live and have fun doing so.

Dear Larp-friends,

I'm a seagull and curious to know if there are any active Larping communities that you've heard of in Toronto or Ontario? I'm not really sure if there are some that are still active, or even worth joining, honestly. Have you fellows and ladies heard anything?

>>7304728
Well, we have Ontario Larpfag, Frenadian larpfag from Quebec (but we won't hold that against him) and Toronto Larpfag. They should be here tonight.

>>7304734
Okay, I'll wait to see if they respond. Thanks a bundle, Gropey.

>>7304750
Ask

We are always there...always watching

>>7304728
so hum...i dont know about Ontario , we have a lot of nice larp in Quebec , but it's pretty far

Also...
>Have you fellows and ladies heard anything?
Ladies in a Larp thread....wath?!

>>7304728
Cruising by to say I know nothing about LARPing but I have a few friends in Toronto who are in this one: http://elegy.ca/

Can't vouch for it or anything but it seems pretty expansive. Lots of people involved.

>>7304756
Oh goodness...
>>7304776
My French isn't very good. Last time I went to Quebec I had to speak in broken French I learned in high school.

>Ladies in a Larp thread....wath?!
This is /cgl/, we ladies are the active majority on this board.

>>7304783
We have lots of ladies in /tg/ who larp.

And you don't have to speak French. Everyone knows english and will be happy to use it.

>>7304782
I've never heard of it, do you have any pictures from it that you can post?

Also, more experienced fellows, how exactly do NPCs play? Would there be a point in getting invested in playing as one if they weren't hostile and/or they don't necessarily 'die'?

>>7304783
Can you explain what women see in Gropey then? Its baffling.

No offence gropes.

>>7304783

>This is /cgl/, we ladies are the active majority on this board.
Oh... does this mean i have to start wearing pants now?

And yeah you dont need to speak french , except for some people from regions who never used english other than in high school , everyone will be able to communicate with you

>>7304789
Not sure where to dig up photos without saving them off of my friends' personal accounts (which would be a dick move) but I found some slideshow sort of videos on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFkzanPEM4Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi-dh-Ucmyw

>>7304785
Really? I thought the Québécois were all, "Tabernac, tabernac! Tu est silly English fool! FUFUFU"

>>7304789
> how exactly do NPCs play
In my game, they get a list, and an assigned territory. For example:

Goblins:
Area X from 2:pm-4:17pm
Rotate between
*sitting in camp (NPCs can use this time to eat, chit chat, play games etc)
*stalking the main road
*sneaking into "town" to raid and steal stuff
etc.

That group then rotates, and plays another part, like town folks or bandits or whatever.

>>7304790
None taken.

>>7304795
I never wear pants at home anyways.

>>7304797
I speak Creole French. It makes then go cross-eyed.

>>7304802

>>7304809

>>7304789
>Also, more experienced fellows, how exactly do NPCs play? Would there be a point in getting invested in playing as one if they weren't hostile and/or they don't necessarily 'die'?
Depends on the NPC really. There will be the archetypical cannon fodder, there will be fixed roles that are more or less a PC that the GMs tell what to do and there will be lots in between these to extremes.

>>7304802
Oh alright, makes sense I suppose.

If you didn't already know, at the moment I am a fatty, like almost amerifat size, but I can still do physical activities without dieing too bad. It has mostly been bad due to the fact that I have been lazy as shit my whole life, attempting to change that now, yatta yatta. Anyways I was thinking about character ideas for if I am still a lard-ass by the time I start LARPing, and the biggest one I had was an orc and/or ogre(depending on the setting), show off my fat stomach and mantits in a way only a barbarian can pull off.

>>7304797
Nope
it's like saying that Texas is only full of rednecks who want to shoot the black president because Muh ricca!

We are actually prety welcoming to tourists as long as they dont act like an asshole...

but we dont talk about that stuff here it's only gonna bore everyone else to death

>>7304790
From what I've gathered Gropey is a tolerable trip who doesn't troll and treats the ladies here with respect. He does the occasional giveaway which is pretty neat for the seagulls interested. He seems like a pretty swell fella.

>>7304795
As long as you don't take pictures you can remain free of your pantsu.

>>7304798
>>7304789
>>7304782

Never saw this on google. Seems pretty interesting, though.

>>7304790
I expect the classic triumvirate:

Decently built and dressed
Confident but not (overly) obnoxious
Diverse and interesting skills and interests.

>>7304814
9.5/10 Would call an holy crusade against

>>7304817
So I'd use you for roles that would fit! Merchant who needs to hire escorts, the leader of a cult, the rich lord, maybe throw you in an ogre costume or something.

>>7304826
>He seems like a pretty swell fella.
Awww thanks!

>>7304827
I've lost even more weight recently too!

>>7304828
You goddamn templar hussies would call a crusade over any ol' looker in a turban!

>>7304836
How tall are you? NPC dwarf is a possiblity, if

>>7304829
Yeah, I want to jump into roles that would actually fit with my body type, if I was to be a warrior or some such, I would be similar to Samwell Tarly, a caring fatty who isn't that great at fighting, but is wise beyond his years, even if he may be a bit of a dope from time to time.

>>7304826
do you really think i wear pants under this tunic ?

>>7304838
About 5'9", shorter then most dudes I know so it is indeed a possibility as well.

>>7304839
I hope not, ho ho.

>>7304842
A ''short'' man is a good shieldman

>>7304836
You'll get points from me on that.
Always good to have folks play to their strengths and build.

>>7304842
Hmmm.... I could work it. How are you on archaic and unidentifiable accents?

>>7304839
Oh....Oh goodness....

>>7304844
shove me in a shit ton of armour and give me a shield, Ill be a medieval tank for you I will!
>>7304845
Honestly acting like a disgusting slob of an orc would be hilariously fun and refreshing, I actually feel like I have to be less of a slob irl due to my weight, I don't want to be "that fat slob" yaknow?
>>7304846
I'd have to try it, but most likely fucking terrible, closest thing I did was representing terrible english in text without trying to type out accents.

>>7304688
>magic
>without levels/hp
How does it work then?

>>7304852

>>7304839
>strap-on mustache
That does not look good.

>>7304860

>>7304851
He's not even an Orc, He's actually a Goblin, he ate an uncooked troll steak on a bet, it's still regenerating in his gut after well over a decade, leaving him almost Orc sized, permanently stuffed, surly and massively flatulent.

But that's another story

>>7304853
Combat is dangerous. Certain weapons beat certain armour. Aiming for unarmoured or lightly armoured spots are key. You hit with intent (not full force, but more than a tap).

A hit to an unarmoured limb disables the limb. A hit to the torso, neck or head disables the player. unless you are alone (abandoned by your team, ext) or killed outright (like having your head crushed by a troll), anyone with the stuff can heal you. If you're dead, you'll have to drag the body to a priest, and I hope you have the money...

The rules are available for download on our facebook page, link in the email field.

>>7304866

May as well re-iterate this particular question - is there a decent market for translators at some of the larger games? I've mainly played in smaller Euro-style games, and I've worked as a translator for a few years now, so I figure having a capable translator might be decent at some of these larger games. I'm fluent in Swedish, Icelandic, and English, my German is decent (Dialectally, lived in Kiel for about six months and so that really colours my speech) and my French is workable, but a bit Parisian thanks to the wonders of international schooling and the goddamn French. I've also been making my own quills and inks for a few years now, so there's always room for proper scribes, right?

At least I'm getting cash and groups together for some trips. Bicolline looks to be in the planning stages, and if we can raise airfare, then Drachenfest will likely happen.

>>7304868
Gropey are their any american cultures represented in SCA? by this I mean Mayan, Aztec, ect.

I kind of doubt it but it would be oddly intersting to see a jaguar warrior among all the knights.

I want my cousin to join me, but the only LARP in the area of her is some werewolf group (http://werewolf.kicks-ass.net/).). Anyone have experience with werewolf groups? Would it be just as sketchy as a vampire group?

>>7304868
>1: The entire body is a target zone, with the exception of the groin, throat and face
So you allow blows to the back of the head and neck? That sounds potentially pretty problematic.

>>7304884
Any culture before 1650, if you can document it, with cultures that have had euro contact being prefered.

Meet Sir Ix. Short of Ixhaulahuanatautal.

The Central and south American Indians used quilted armour and wooden helmets natively, and were known to use gifted or looted European armour from the Spanish.

This was hist first attempt at the Jaguar pajamas that the Aztec Jaguar knights wore...

>>7304892
It works fine in all of Europe. Don't like it? Don't play.

>>7304881
Some group love that kind of character . All the knigth templar in my guild have produced atleast one thesis/pamphlet or one heroic tale to psice up Bicolline's culture/grievances/history

i dont want to seach for it rigth now i'm too lazy also it's all in french and it would also mean i would have to find it on our old forum

>>7304892
Not with an Helmet , wich is the first piece of armor you should buy and always in metal with padding..or you are gonna have concussion

>>7304901
It makes me hard to see him fighting a spanish guy too. It also makes me happy that any fun idea I can think of, has probably been done.

>>7304901
Excuse me, his whole name is Ixtilixochit Ixhaulahuanatauta.

And here he is in his new morion. Last I heard, he finished a new feather-shield for tourney use.

Here is the new helm.

>>7304911
And on the more northern end of the Americas, here is Joshua Ironspear. Cree I think?

>>7304913
Why did he drop the jaguar helmet? Also a feather shield too? Nice.

>>7304917
>Ixtilixochit
Same reason he ditched the faux-fur and hand painted a correct cotton suit instead, to fit the image he wants better.

>>7304920
Forgot the pic.

>>7304916
That's not like any Cree I've ever seen. Face paint is all wrong.

>>7304906
ok found one

http://runningwithpencils.com/cthulhu/haine/11x17%20saoures.pdf

i also found the complete Holy-scriptures of the true faith... a text that almost nobody have ever read (just like the real bible)
part 1 http://runningwithpencils.com/cthulhu/Impression/Scriptures.pdf

Part 2
http://runningwithpencils.com/cthulhu/Impression/Saints.pdf

part 3
http://runningwithpencils.com/cthulhu/Impression/Vie%20des%20Saints.pdf

So let's say we like scribs a lot

>>7304906
Any links to them? I always love checking out the style of writing people go for in their games. It's great fun, and it's always awesome to utilize language skills. I figure my Old Norse is also somewhat useful, but Icelandic is an actual living language and so translating for Icelanders is awesome - they're always so fucking happy to get to use their native language when you meet 'em. Best time I've had in a bar by far.

>>7304906
There is also the fact that rule 1 is "don't be a dick" which includes not unloading on an unarmoured opponent.

>>7304921
Hey, you probably know better than me. My knowledge starts and end in the Powhatan nation.

>>7304920
Does fit with the point you made about them using spanish armour, and I can't really argue with that since I know jack shit about that area and it's history.

>>7304916
Going over your magic. What's to stop someone from casting a hex on some monster, then just walking up and stabbing it in the gut? Obviously doing this to a human would have repercussions, but there's definitely cases where I'd think it's hugely overpowered.

Can Harm be parried? Blocking with the hand is mentioned earlier in the document, would that count as being hit?

>>7304930
there is also a guy who started this
http://marcbo.startlogic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Accueil

i dont really like it but...i guess it answer some question, it's all new so there is almost nothing except what those who are the most there post

so there are entire pages about ork and stuff like that but nothing on some important kingdoms


Pic unrelated but it was during the Xeno-Hunt

>>7304931
Yup. That, and he could afford a better helm, that looked how he wanted, was historically accurate etc.

Also, his old helm was sculpted leather over a simple steel spun-top, so it was probably looking beaten to shit.

>>7304934
You can certainly do that... But I doubt that keeping unblinking eye contact in the middle of a fight and while not being able to see where you are stepping makes it a little harder. That also implies you're alone.

Yes, Harm can be parried, but it if touches your body, it deals the damage. Your hand is part of your body.

And being hit is quite obvious. We're been using hollow eggs filled with novelty snappers and flour. Looks cool, sounds cool, and makes you spend time "preparing your spell components".

So is NPCing like the entry level LARP?
Is it usually free so long as you're all NPC all the time or is it just reduced fees?
I'm broke as hell but whacking people with foam seems like great fun.

>>7304943
What's the trick you're using for them? Just hollow out the egg, add some flour and poppers, and it's done? It's a really cool component, plus it seems like it could be adapted into a number of different effects.

>>7304943
Are there any other 'out of the norm' persona's I should know about? or rather, would have an interest in knowing, should implies a need.

>>7304957
Yup. and I use a chunk of coffee filter and white glue to seal the holes.

I an trying to figure out colored powders that wont stain, but so far no luck. Smokebombs (colored and non colored) glowsticks, and these fill a lot of uses.

>>7304959
Depends on what is out of the norm. N'kante the 16thC Bennin warrior of west Africa? Testiclese and his gladiators? Any of our Zulus, Moorish infantry, Greeks, Japanese?

There are households that do practically anything you can think of, if it had contact with Europe before 1700.

>>7304960
Yes. Its a good way to learn the rules, make firends, have most of the kit and food provided for you (at least in my case, I feed and care for my volunteers!)

>>7304976
Show me all of those, plus Chinese and Mongolians if you can.

>>7304977
I don't have pics of everyone, but Mongols are a dime-a-dozen, one of the most popular non-euro cultures in the SCA.

Also a "please" would be nice.

Have an Ustad, an Indian warrior of the Mugal empire

>>7304995
Annnd his new kit.

Improving you kit is part of the fun!

>>7304995
Apologies, I do highly appreciate you helping me out with things however. I am curious, what is your persona?

Sometime Ill be signing up for AA, once I figure out what name I am going to use for my own persona that is.

>>7305015
Started as a genericelt/viking much to my parent's dismay, and my current embarassment. Evolved into a real period of 400AD merc from Norvgod.

Then I found the light, and the one true centruy, and joined my parents in the 15thC, specifically a Condottieri circa 1460-1480 from Naples, Italy. Most of my clothing is available and common to Italy in the period (including continental fashions, middle eastern clothing etc), but I do have 16thC century clothes mixed in for occasions.

>>7305035
Ah alright, well hopefully I will be able to pull off a viking/norse/swede that would make your parent's proud, I definitely won't be jumping into it until I know for sure that what I am planning is accurate, and Ill be doing my best to make sure my friends are accurate as well. Friends don't let friends be genericelt/vikings. If I was to go with my heritage I would most likely be welsh or german.

>>7305041
Go with whats cool to you. Race dosen't mean much if you're doing it respectfully.

>>7305048
Yeah I figured that when I realized all the Japanese samurai dudes were white dudes.

I am curious, as a blacksmith I hope to one day have a little tent at wars or the like, would it be cool to have a forge made from modern things(brake drum, shop vac for blower) or would it be safer to wait until I had something more period?

>>7305055
My first suggestion is to not bring anything until you know what you're doing.

Modern forges are fine, but I wouldn't bring a freaking shop-vac that requires a light socket makes lots of noise and is glaringly unperiod. Bellows, hand-crank or induction.

Pic related. Its my portable setup.

>>7305070
forgot the damn pic

>>7305070
Oh right, shop vacs need power, my bad. What type of forge is that you have back there?

>>7305080
A portable gas forge, made from an old 50 cal ammo can with a home cut in a side, and lined with kiln wool. A small pressurized nozzle leads to a regular canister of propane., which is hidden in a wooden crate.

>>7305085
Fancy, I like it, I personally prefer working with coal. Anyways, I ought to head to bed soon, goodnight Gropey and thanks again for being awesome.

>>7305093
I do too, and do at my personal forge or when I am at Jamestown Settlement, but a coal is neither portable, clean nor easy to set up.

Anyone awake?

>>7305213
It's only nine, I reckon folks just ran out of things to talk about for the nonce.

>>7305213

>>7305221
Its midnight were I am sitting, but I barely sleep.

>>7305227

>>7305232
Aaaaand thats image limit. Its been fun. If anyone has questions, email me.

If anyone near Virginia is interesting in the Lost Stories & Dark Tales Larp, the link is in the email field.

let's do this thread again tomorrow/tonight, i need to talk more about crossbows

>>7305281
Or I could just start a thread in /tg/ if you want. Y/N?

>>7305299
Y

>>7305314
IT LIVES >>29547245

>>7305330
Gropes, you gotta link to /tg/ for that to work.
>>>/tg/29547245

>>7305336
Suck my +3 long spear, its amazing I can check my damn email.

Where you at crossbow anon?

>>7305354
already checking out the new thread

>>7304373
battle-merchant

>>7304883
heard that they just build a big fire on the beach, get drunk, wrassle and howl a lot.
party party fun times.
or so I heard......

>>7304881
as I mentioned before I don't know german, at all. So at Drachenfest I had to hire translators numerous times. And there are a lot of people like me who don't speak german there.

So at bigger, international games there is a market for them (At Drachenfest I always went to the postal service guild to get a translator, although one time we got a giant rat as a translator who's whole vocabulary was "YIP" It was an.... interesting conversation)
Also sometimes there are people who just want to play a foreigner who don't understand the language. Those would hire translators too

also boy and girls here is a google map that contains the location some of the larps. By no means it's complete, it barely scratch the surface but it's good for a start
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=209551695769559784141.0004e041f475045210e09

new thread
>>7306355