/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I'm very interested to know too.
Also in light of the recent crossplay thread, I was wondering if any 'traps' around here have goten or plan to get Facial Feminization Surgery?

Are there surgeries to:
Make eye larger?
Make foreheads smaller?
Make feet smaller?
Make mouth smaller?

>>729601

yes for the first half, no for the second.
I know it hurts.

>>7295999
She looks cute in the second pictures but wow... that's a huge change. I'd feel like I lost my body if this were me.
Food for thought, I've been wanting jaw and nose surgery too...

>>7296013
>Are there surgeries to:
>Make eye larger?
Yes
>Make foreheads smaller?
yes
>Make feet smaller?
no
>Make mouth smaller?
yes

what aesthetic are you aiming?

>>7296019
Just curious. They are a few things I am self conscious about. I have size 10 feet so that's the big one, sadly.

I dunno, I guess if someone is really unhappy with their looks they should go for it.
Otherwise, when I look at Kpop stars I honestly think they all look like they came out of the same factory or something. I wouldn't want to go that way.

As far as cosmetic surgery goes, I want to remove a beauty mark above my lip. I went to see a dermatologist for it, and she told me it would leave a big ugly scar. Is there a way to remove it without scarring?

>>7296032

I've gotten a few moles removed (my dad was super paranoid about skin cancer back when it was the hot new disease), and I've always been left with scarring. They were mostly on my neck but the most prominent one is this one I had to get three stitches for right below my clavicle. There's now a bump around a cm wide. It's not noticeable until you look closely, but it would be quite prominent on the face (and that was a relatively small mole).

I don't see how with all its advances cosmetic surgery could not have some sort of technique for reducing scarring. Maybe you could research into that and see what they say?

>>7296032
Is it flat against the skin and just discoloration, or is it a bump? Also depends on the side. Small moles they can shave off no problem, larger ones might leave a scar, and discoloration can be helped with a laser

>>7296026
Agh I feel you, tho I'm a bit smaller.

> tfw 5'4 and size 9 feet

I paid 5000€ for my nose job and it was the best decision I ever made.
I broke my nose when I was 17 and was constantly insecure. I had a list of 5 or 6 procedures I wanted done and started to save up for. I thought my nose job would just be step number one and I wouldn't go out in public or date again until I had all these procedures.

Turned out that after fixing my broken nose, I magically regained my calm and was simply happy with who I was.
Now I think the things I wanted done are fucking ridiculous.
Two years after my nose job I'm 100% sure I won't go under the knife again.

I really recommend just getting that ONE PROCEDURE you really want and then see if it calms your craziness.
It certainly did for me.

I just want my face shape shaved, I think my face is fine, just its a huge ass moon face.

>>7296076
i feel you buddy
my friends call me moon-moon

>>7296084
Dump them because they use tumblr

I secret of asian people.

>>7296089
oh is that shit from tumblr?
and here i thought they were being witty.

Is there surgery for whitening skin?
I'm chinese but my skin is a little tan and I want to have a pale and fair complex...

>>7296076
same, especially when I smile it looks terrible. Seems like shaving is one of the more dangerous procedures though..

>>7296118
there is skin bleaching but im too chicken to try. so i just use bb cream or moisturizer with sunblock/spf.

Would Korea be the best place to go for jaw shaving? I'm white but it seems they hardly do it in the West except for trannies

I spend my summers in the Philippines and I want to get some surgery done there. (I'm 1/4, pretty much white-looking, but I want a thinner nose and face.)
Surgery is obviously a lot cheaper there than it is in most Asian countries (hello 3rd world), and it's not quite as common but is catching on with the upper classes.
Does anyone happen to know anything about the safety and skill level of upper-tier plastic surgeons in the Philippines compared to those in developed countries?

>>7296059
What I would do for smaller feet. ;_;

I really want an umbilicoplasty to change my outie bellybutton to an innie, but hardly anyone does it. I found one doctor, but I'm kind of wary because he's caused a patient to kill herself over the plastic surgery she got from him.

Is surgery something worth getting in Korea? Because I have a fucking huge western nose and I want a korean tiny button nose but I am afraid
1. They will fuck up because not your typical korean nose to start with
2. I don't know how cheap it us to get surgery in Korea, I have been searching in my country and I guess it's not that expensive.
Is it worth it?

>>7296118
Perhaps use papaya soap? That's what Filipinos use to lighten their skin. Koreans have BB creams that have some kind of skin whitening agent too, but I'm not knowledgeable in that area.

>>7295999
She got her skin so white! How did she do it? It's like she's glowing.
My skin is like her before picture so could I get pale skin like her after picture too?

>>7296198
10/10 would laugh again

>>7296237
She's using a bunch of make up in the after picture. The glowing is from that, if you look at the bottom one you can see the strong looking contouring going on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ughYtwwSOFU

>>7296255
This bitch looks ugly before and after. Plus this is China. no1curr bout china.

>>7296264
China`s plastic surgery industry is huge, though.
The job market is so saturated that literally girls get hired for how beautiful they are (since all the applicants would be equally qualified), meaning that if you`re "average", chances are, you`ll be working a low-paying job or none at all.

Although yeah, that bitch does look ugly both before and after lol.

The main things I'd like to change are my nose and lips, but I actually want them to be bigger. My nose is a little crooked, but you can't really tell outside of comparing 3/4 views, but I'd really like for it to be just a little "taller". From the tip to my upper lip, it's barely over half an inch, and I hate it. I'd also like to have my lips reshaped just a little because I hate the way my smile looks. Hohum.

>>7296164
I wouldn't risk it. Singapore maybe since they're rich with good education.

>>7296351

Most top tier surgeons in the Phillipines would have trained elsewhere such as Australia or the UK, so it's not exactly expertise that's the problem. The real issue is the maintenance of a good sterile environment before, after, and post op so you won't get infection, and the lack of supplies and equipment that you can encounter in less affluent countries.

I'm one of those doomed potato faced people and thanks to genetics I'm equipped with a double chin no matter how much weight I loose. I've got a pretty big complex about my neck fat and if I wasn't so scared of surgery I'd get that bitch cut out.

>>7296370
Yeah but it's really one of those things where you don't want to risk getting someone with less than stellar experience and credentials

>>7296419

Oh, don't worry, I understand where you're coming from - I kind of went off on a tangent and I was trying to say there are other reasons as well she should consider Singapore, for instance, over the Phillipines. If there were two surgeons who both studied at Cambridge, did residencies in Mayo Clinic, and fellowships at Mass Gen, then one went back to Singapore and the other to the Phillipines, I would still go to Singapore because they're much more likely to have a colluding team, sterile facilities, and the tools necessary to give me the treatment to the best of their ability.

>>7296424

*cohesive team

I'm (trying to) write an essay and it's apparently hampering my ability to choose the right words.

>>7295999

You know, if you change your hair from greasy to fluffy, apply expertly done, subtle, expensive make-up, and maybe use a wee bit of photoshop to smooth out your skin...

you wouldn't have needed plastic surgery in the first place. a good 60% of that picture is total artifice.

Unless you have something genuinely fucked up--broken, malformed, a doctor telling you that it's weird, don't get plastic surgery. Learn to wear makeup.

My eyes always look like they are sunken in. Anything I can do about that? Makeup doesn't seem to help at all.

>>7296383
You're probably not combining exercise with diet to tone yourself after you lose weight. If you're weak and flabby when you're fat, you'll be weak and flabby when you're skinny if you don't work out.

>>7296052
Slightly raised, but still the size of a beauty mark, not a hairy mole.

>>7296444
I wish that was it anon but everyone on my dad's side of the family is super tiny asians and they have it too.
>tfw no hope

>>7296059
Size 11 here. I'm 5'9, so they don't look that big, but finding flat cute shoes is almost impossible.

>>7296059
Get on my level.
5'1 and size 10 us feet. I feel like a fucking hobbit.

I was always worried about my face.
I'm always the ugliest in the group, but that doesn't matter so much...
But then, I get into lolita, and japanese style more and more.
In comparisong, I saw my face worst and worst.
Friends tell me I don't need a pretty face because I'm a very good person (and blah blah blah...) but in our conversations, they are always talking about beautiful people, and guys only talks how pretty are my friends.
Even if I'm the better person, without a pretty face, I'll never...
You know, you can see someone with good personality, kind, etc... but if is ugly, you will never be a...
-never love-
So I became obssesed more and more.
While I save money for take plastic surgery on my face, I became obsessed with other things of me: hair, weight... I'm 167 cm long and my weight its 105 pounds, but I'm obssesed to be skinnier.
I hurt myself everyday. I not want to kill me because I fear of death, and I not want to die, I just deserve it.
I'm praying for surgery come soon, I cannot stand

My opinion? I hope people stop being cruel with ugly people

I hope plastic surgery never exists.

But I'll take some.
I'm in despair.

>>7296541
Beauty doesn't last forever, won't get you a good job (and the ones it will you don't want), won't make people respect you more, won't make you friends or make you a better person, and in the end can fuck you up. Your friends and you are young and don't get that yet, but you will.

If they don't, you'll still be the one with a career and a family at 40 with them trying desperately to cling onto waning youth and be pretty and carefree again. The whole beauty industry as we know it exists to make money off of people like that.

>>7296491
damn anon.

>>7296541
That's your own fucking fault. This thread isn't for impressionable teenager idiots like you.

>>7296491
It's ok Bilbo, you'll always have weed

>>7296491
Holy fuck how, I'm five feet exactly and I have baby feet.

>>7296573
>won't get you a good job


this is probably the only thing that was wrong in your statement.

Pretty people get hired more. But it's not like you can forgo having schooling and experience cause you are pretty.

But yes, pretty wanes. It isn't everything and the people who make it out to be a big deal end up being desperate to cling to it and it makes them look ridiculous.

>>7296587
No idea. My sister's 5'9 with same size feet but my mum smoked heavily when she was pregnant with me and all through out my childhood. Always wonder if she stunted my growth...

I have a hard time believing OP girl is the same person but I find her more beautiful before, those stunning cheekbones. After jsut looks so generic and I can't get into the triangle chin trend.

Personally, I would totally get my fivehead reduced.

>>7296621
I think she's beautiful too. Is it wrong that the thought of the "triangle chin" trend backfiring kinda amuses me(?) - trends come and go but if you've permanently changed your face you're kinda stuck you know? I just have this idea that in a few years after some crazy plastic surgery epidemic, on the grounds that everyone looks the fucking same, squarejaw will be back in and everyone will be screwed, leaving the few that didn't go under the knife laughing. Sure the trends will be back round again in a decade or so, by which time all the original surgically enhanced triangles will have committed suicide and / or feel too old and have given up anyway.

Hmm, there's several procedures I'd like to get done because I'm vain as fuck. Though I've no hope of them ever actually happening because it's all expensive as fuck, but it's still nice to dream. Besides, I'm not sure if it's worth getting one thing done when there is a bunch of other things that could use work, and the change will not be too drastic. I'm not exactly "beautiful, except for this one thing", I'm average overall.
I'm sort of inspired by all the kpop idol surgeries, and how much they can transform their facesl. Granted, I'm not Asian nor do I want to look like an idol, but the idea alone of turning into a 9/10 from a 3/10 is great, but unfortunately, in my case, that won't come from just one feature. So...meh. I'll keep fantasizing, at least.

>>7296621
>>7296666
I don't understand how people can find that beautiful, it really baffles me. I think she looks atrociously ugly in the before and I would have gotten surgery too.
Fucking cheekbones though, no idea why people like them. I can't wait to get mine reduced

I was supposed to get a nose job, but it didn't happen, I've talked about it in these threads before. It's been years now, and I still hate my nose. I can barely stand to look in the mirror, I only tolerate it now to put make up on. I just want my nose fixed. That's all I want.

If I could have more than one thing, I'd probably get my jaw shaved as I have a total ball face (Think Merida.) and maybe some general things here and there just make my features daintier and prettier.

>>7296694

She doesn't look like a goddess, but I think she looks fine.

Unless you look horrendously ugly like that one infamous cosplayer, I think people should be talked to about what issues they might have with a professional before going on with it. Kind of like transitioning with all its steps.

>>7296666
>>7296621
not really a fan of her jaw to be honest but yeah, the cheekbones are a shame. pic rel is one of the few surgery pics that i thought genuinely looked better before than after (well, maybe asides from the eyes), but goddamnit such lovely cheekbones going to waste!

>>7296728
I prefer the before picture, he seems more sexy to me XD

>>7296694
If you think her face is atrociously ugly, you probably aren't capable of stepping outside the house, I see at least five less attractive people by the time I've reached the nearest bus stop.

>>7296747
Not that anon but what? I agree that she's ugly, and I also see ugly people outside my house, what of it?

>>7296065
damn do you have a before and after picture?

>>7296728
Why do so many asians seem anti beautiful high cheek bones? Now this I really don't understand. Shit, he was hot before, after he looks like a bland as hell over-the-hill boy band reject.

>>7296728
he's way better looking in the first picture wtf is his psychosis to turn his gorgeous manly face into a ugly little boy face

>>7296621
>stunning cheekbones

m8, they're droopy cheekybones, sure they protrude, but they go down too far.

>>7296752
Well she used the word 'atrociously ugly', the implication being that her face is somehow so horrendous it's painful to look at, hence stepping outside must be a world of pain for her, what with all those ugly people walking around.

>>7296728
looking you have any testosterone at all = ultra gay in asia
I can see why he'd do that but what a shame.

>>7296728
his head looks way to small in the after, like that alien in MIB

>>7296767
Nah, she had cute apple cheeks. Maybe someone could shoop her into a somewhat prettier version without turning her into k-pop clone #2067, I'd be interersted in seeing that.

>>7296032
You could see if liquid nitrogen-ing it would work?

I know I'm a hypercritical asshole, I think it so sad that plastic surgery is now so common and sought after yet if I was completely honest, If I had the option of a bunch of cost and pain-free surgery I'd be all up in that shit - subtle jaw shaping, boob job using own fat to go up one size and make boobs perkier, procedures to get rid of all unwanted body hair and perhaps permanent eyelash inserts whilst I'm at it - I would still look like me but a slightly better me, as if I turned myself into my slightly shooped pics self.

>>7296782
used morphthing. it's the girl from the OP pic and taeyeon (i don't know shit about kpop, but she seemed pretty), looks pretty normal

>>7296782
I kinda gave it a try, I think she would look very cute if she had done just a jaw reduction like pic related and kept the rest of her face natural.

>>7296810
I imagine this to be how Taeyeon looked before surgery, haha.

Park Bom seems to have had a botched chin implant. Pic related; a collage of her ever changing appearance.

>>7296728
This picture actually makes me want to cry. He was such a beautiful man

>>7296826
aww geez, she didn't even need the implant at all, or that much shit done to her nose (i think there was something about her nostrils being uneven?), she already looks great in the 2nd picture from the left top row. in the bottom ones she looks like she's pushing the skin below the lip out with her tongue, it's dumb.

>>7296811
I added some better makeup, it doesn't really need much to improve her looks.

>>7296842
Minzy's had a nose job too, although for medical reasons. Kind of sad the way she talks about her mother, though. It's a shame; she had such a cute face.

> "It was the first time I'd ever undergone surgery, so I was worried at first. Then my mother suggested that while I'm fixing my crooked nose, I should receive cosmetic surgery as well. That's why it took even longer for me to decide."

> Minzy also added another explanation for her change in appearance. "My mother is incredibly fond of me. Though I work out almost every day at the YG gym, it seems she was bothered that I wasn't as thin as the other [2NE1] members. That's why to motivate me, she lost 10 kg (22 lbs). After that, my family members started to go on diets, which is why I naturally lost weight as well."

Another candidate for mole surgery here.

How big a scar are we talking? My worst two are maybe .5 a centimetre across at most, probably closer to .3 but I'm being careful. My GP recommended a place I could get excision for them, as she said they can't be lasered or w/e which means they're gonna slice me up, right?
Both these fucking cunt ass things are on my face and have caused the majority of the bullying and name calling that has ever happened to me.
I had one on my neck and I burned it off, would not recommend. Did it to a tiny one under my nose too. The scar is near gone but sort of very slightly raised, so it really doesn't look any better.

I'm genetically pre disposed to being ugly as fuck, apparently.

>>7296891
Try posting a face pic. In my experience with mole removals, healing heavily depends on where they are on the face and their size (how far they go out).

>>7296908
No way. I know cgl has changed for the better recently, but I'm still not going to put myself out there. I posted my tumblr url once and got hatemail for three days afterwards (I don't even post anything you could comment on, its mostly street snap reblogs). ANYway. Here's a very close picture I found on google - the before pic of course. Both look very similar to this, in size and in how raised it is.

There's only a few things I'd want to do, but they're primarily for quality of life improvements, not to cover insecurities.

Despite the fact that it's for a fucking medical condition, insurance companies consider the surgery for pectus excavatum (pic related) a cosmetic surgery, so there's that. I don't know if they'd be able to do anything about mine, though, because my bones have solidified by now and it's off to the side.

Rhinoplasty. Mostly to fix my deviated septum, but I'd probably get it shaved down a bit, too. An ex of mine had his shortened when he went to get his deviated septum fixed.

One of my ears sticks out through my hair and it's really annoying. I can't count how many times I've hit it with curlers and straighteners. I figure getting that fixed would be pretty easy.

I was considering tits, mostly if I can't fix my PE. One of my breasts sinks into my dent so no bras, no matter how much padding, will ever fit me properly. I have broken down and cried in dressing rooms when shopping for bathing suits when I was younger because of how not a single top I could find worked with my condition. Only problem is I'd have to keep going back to get them touched up, and I'm not really a fan of that idea.

>>7296916
/cgl/ does seem nicer recently. Even our trips aren't horrible shits like there were a few years ago which is weird.
And what kind of hatemail did you get? I've posted my Tumblr here and nothing bad ever happened really.

>>7296873
That's impressive and pretty anon, if she had to do it, this would have been so much better, still looks like her, just a perfected version, ah well.

>>7296962
Oh, you know, the usual. "You're an ugly bitch", "Kill yourself you stupid bitch" "who do you think u are", "you're not kawaii you're ugly", basically anything you can think of that might come from /b/ plus the word bitch. It was at the height of the UK loli drama and a bunch of cosplay drama and everyone seemed highly strung and eager to be the one to discover the next lolcow. Unfortunately for them, they picked the wrong person - I'm dysmorphic and mostly just nodded along sagely, muttering "yes, I know, just awful isn't it" before hitting delete. There's not much they could say that I hadn't already thought of myself, built bridges and got over.
I really felt for anyone who was particularly upset by the suicide encouragement though.

>>7296941
tbh. if it wasn't for your comment I would have no idea what was supposed to be 'wrong' in this picture, i think you have an amazing figure.

>>7296970
wording this.
And I have pretty high set and solid standards.

>>7296941
I don't know about the rest of your problems but really I think that your body looks fine! And your figure is nice.
If bras and stuff don't work on you and shirts don't fit you though should get your pectus excavatum fixed but don't get a boob job.

>>7296451
It's still a mole, anon. They call them beauty marks because having a mole on your face sounds icky. Moles aren't necessarily hairy, in fact they usually aren't.

Man, if I were rich and surgery was guaranteed to give perfect results I would do so much.
Smaller, thinner nose. Lip injections. Fix my uneven eyebrows. Maybe an eyelift? Anything to make them look bigger. Something to make my jaw/lower half of face thinner. Fix my cleft chin. No more double chin. Fat suction in certain spots. Boob job. Something to make my legs thinner...

So sick of being the ugly friend. Of course you're going to tell me I look just fine, you look good all the fucking time while I'm sitting here looking like a walrus.

I think I generally look fine and I get positive feedback on my looks but I'm just so damn unphotogenic. If there existed a surgery to fix that I would have it. I have dimples that are cute and shit irl but on pictures they give me lumpy potatoface. Guess its still better than only looking good in pictures since I'm not going to have a career as some high fashion model anyway.

>>7297001
Some of these sound like they could get fixed by exercise, y'know.

>>7297001
Same.
Don't rely on lipo, though - it's actually a gradual, eighteen week process. If you get it done by a cowboy in one go, you'll get permanent orange peel skin. Easier to just diet for thinner legs, really.

>>7297001
i'm on board with most of these except the boob job and the lip thing, but that's not because of moral objections or some shit, it just 99% of the time looks fake as fuck. i'd want bigger lips but not duck-mode, and fake tits, even if done well, often leave scars.

not sure if youre at all interested but i've heard about lip exercises to make them plumper naturally though

>>7297014
Not them but I'm 98 pounds and can't get this last bit of fat off my stomach no matter how hard I try. Would getting the fat taken off be bad? It's not very much at all but I just can't get it off no matter what I do.

Talking about all this vain shit, does corsetting work for thin people?
My bmi is 18 but I'd like to have more of a defined waist.
When you look for advice online, it's overweight girls who want to show their curves.
I understand that corsets aren't as harmful for them.
Does any thin girl here has experience with corsetting?

The only thing I really want done is my nose. I pretty much don't have a nose bridge and it makes my face look flat as fuck from most angles.

>>7296728
I can't believe people seriously think that disformed before is better. Huge nose, tiny eyes?

>>7295999
You'll know they've had plastic surgery done once you see their kids...

>>7297025

Pretty interested, not gonna lie.

>>7297014

That's completely true. Just saying though, it isn't a cakewalk (haha) to drop those pounds. The fantasy of just being able to go under for surgery and coming up thin and beautiful is something nice to daydream about.
Even with weight loss, the stubby, short legs will always be a problem for me.

Hell, even after dropping weight, gonna have to get a tummy tuck regardless of method.

>>7297016
I feel your pain, anon. I'm always told how pretty I am in person or even when caught on video, and I feel confident looking in a mirror, but my face sucks in photos. Ugh.

>>7297061
he looks like an average asian to me, but yeah I do agree he does look better on the right, but I guess people don't live around a lot of asians to find him painfully average

>>7297083
Yeah, that's exactly what I saw - he looks an average Korean guy. I can't believe the yellow fever on this board.

>>7297099
ha, totally agree. off to Korea next week and can't wait to puke at the site of these kinds of guys.

>>7297099
>>>7297099
ha, totally agree. off to Korea next week and can't wait to puke at the sight of these kinds of guys.

>>7297083
ha, totally agree. off to Korea next week and can't wait to puke at the sight of these kinds of guys.

>>7297081
>>7297016

The pain is real. It's gotten to the point where I'm not sure if the 'real me' is in the mirror or in photos.

>>7296430
Not OP, but I'd get plastic surgery so I could look great in person and not only in photos when photoshop is used or have wear a truck ton of makeup.

>>7296444
Some people just have double chins naturally. I'm one of them - I'm 5"5, weigh 52kg and work out every other day. Still got big ol' flabby neckflaps. I'm tempted by surgery for it but like the other anon, scared of the scarring.

I want to get my jawline and chin reshaped, get a nose job to give me more of a button nose and put a bit more definition on the bridge of my nose, and to do something to make my eyes bigger.

Also I have a bit of a weak chin and want a tiny implant, and my lips don't naturally close when my mouth is in rested/relaxed position. So I'm a mouth breather unless I remember to force close my mouth and make a conscious effort to keep it closed. Because of these when I close my lips, I get mentalis strain (lip strain) on my chin (dimpling of the chin muscles). So I want to get all that fixed too.

I want to look in the mirror and not even recognise myself because I look so much better.

Pic related but not me- my chin looks like that with the dimpling when I close my mouth.

>>7297172
My chin does that too, it's like flesh colored golfball but it's never bothered me.

>>7297081
>>7297117
Truthfully the camera does make your features look more squished in, its the fault of the camera trying to turn something 3d into 2d and only a pro photographer and someone who looks good photogenically is good at pictures. Don't worry about it too much.

really want the mandibular reduction procedure shown in the OP but i'm scared as fuck of the potential complications

like what if they hit a nerve and you lost the ability to taste, or worse? the entire lower half of your jaw gets paralysed, aaagh

>>7296970
>>7296989
>>7296991
Thanks guys.

It really isn't that I'm dissatisfied with how I look, which seems to be the reason most people get plastic surgery, it's that some of these flaws are just a major inconvenience.

I have trouble breathing with my deviated septum, I keep burning my ear that sticks out, bras and swim tops don't fit, limited stamina due to my ribs compressing my lung on one side.

>If bras and stuff don't work on you and shirts don't fit you though should get your pectus excavatum fixed but don't get a boob job.
Yeah, like I said the boob job would only happen if I was willing to do the upkeep and if I absolutely couldn't get the PE fixed normally.

When you're young, your bones are more malleable. One of the primary surgeries for PE involves sticking metal bars under your ribs and then turning them to pop your sternum out. Since mine is off to the side and I'm nearly 25, I can't imagine this procedure working very well.

>>7297363
I imagine PE surgery would be pretty major at 25 and moreso considering that it's off to one side. You'd essentially need the bones to be broken and rewired/plated in the "correct" place, plus I'm guessing all your important bits have adjusted to the current position of your sternum so even with correction there probably wouldn't be a guarantee of your exercise tolerance improving, and then of course there's the post op risk with infection etc. That being said, I don't see why not to get it if you can.

>>7297264
> lost the ability to taste

hell, that'd be pretty nice actually. no more incentive to eat shit junk food or candy.

>>7296826
She looks like the bitchy class mate from the manga Othello! Omg

I have breath implants. They are maybe 3 years old now.
Probably one of the most painful things I have ever gone through. I had to get them placed under the muscle and not over. (The recovery time for over is crazy fast but you sacrifice the ability to breast feed and they can look a little different.)
About a week of my life I do not remember because of the amount of meds I was on for pain.

If I would do it over again. You bet your frilly ass I would. Best decision ever. I am in love with them. I did not go crazy with my size. I wear a 32 C and am about 105 lbs. before I was 100% flat. I did not even own a bra.

Because my starting size was so small they had to go under my breast and not around my nipples / arm pits. They also needed to use silicone for a better "look" silicone has come a long way now. If it busts it won't leak out. Think of them like a gummy bear now. If they somehow rupture nothing will leak into you. they are 100% safe and give you the tier drop boob look instead of the fake looking circle.

I can't express how happy I am with my decision on getting them. It took me about 16 months to save up for them. (I took a little out of each paycheck.) Worth every penny!

>>7296878
This is disgusting. Americans talk about body image bullshit via tumblr, but Asian countries are a hundred times worse. Someone my height in Japan is suppose to be 98pounds. I'm 5'4"

I just want that thing in your armpit that makes it smelly taken out

....my bo man, jfc.

>>7297409
>Someone my height in Japan is suppose to be 98pounds. I'm 5'4"

5"4' here and 95. I look and eat perfectly fine.

>>7297428
youre so inconsiderate of americuns!!!

>>7297403
Dropped pic. Sorry. Had a 10 hour work day

>>7297034
Yes it does, it depends on your amount of squish as to how much reduction you'll get. I don't know what you mean by harmful, though, corseting shouldn't ever be harmful to you regardless if weight as long as you take the appropriate steps to be safe, like lacing too tight too soon and putting pressure on nerves (usually due to ill during corsets)
I can get my natural waist of 24" to 20" with a corset, if that helps give an idea. I'm about 115lb at the moment, so my natural waist is more like 26" currently, but can still be laced down to 22" easily. I don't usually wear a corset but am comfortable like that for about 5 hours (in the same way that wearing tight denim jeans is comfortable - the fit is firm and you can't expect to be doing anything super strenuous, but it doesn't hurt me)
I will stress though that you must listen to your body when you put a corset on. Teeny amounts of bad pressure (e.g on your ribs or spine) or bits that sort of dig in will turn into lots of bad pressure, possibly bruises, if you leave your corset on and try to ignore them. Fit is crucial! Read lucycorsetry's blog for a good introduction.

>>7297411
Any scarring? I'm genuinely interested in seeing what a NORMAL post-op looks like. Most of the things I find online are D-cups with terrible scarring.

>>7297430
>Othello

I love you. Anon.

I totally forgot about this manga after I gave my copies to my neighbor.

>>7297447
I found the first three volumes all sad and dusty a few weeks ago in the back of my closet. I forgot how much this manga really cheers me up.
So nice to see another fan from it!

>>7296790
That's for warts.

Dont you plebs know how to love yourselves

>>7296198
what surgery was it?

>>7297423
you mean bacteria?
wear antiperspirant man, it's not hard

>>7296237
its a little bit of Photoshop.

notice her lips got lighter as well they just brightened the picture. plus makeup as noted by weird contouring

>>7296457
I know a girl at work who has the hanging neck thing, she's very slim too, but she is still a good looker despite it and a few of the guys we work with all look past it, or maybe haven't even noticed, and still talk about her as really attractive all the time.
She doesn't appear bothered by it either, she talks more about trying to get more fit like have a lil more muscle but that's it. She may be a lil bothered by it for all I know, but the less you think about it the less it shows.

>>7296442
what exactly have you tried with your makeup though?

I was thinking of making a Tanaka/general facial massage thread because apparently it can somewhat help with reshaping but I'm not sure if it would be considered off-topic and better just posted in here?

>>7297498
Thank you anon for telling me that, that was really encouraging. I'm trying to get over it, it's just this big mental block in my head about it.

>>7296728
That face shape in the After will look all fine and dandy when you're a young 25 year old but when you get older that's just gonna look sad.

Looks handsome in the before as well, they're two different kinds of handsome. Being a Westerner maybe is the reason why I prefer the Before. Its almost a waste actually, he looked like a handsome warrior /hero. Oh well

>>7297172
I have this combined with a sliding jaw, huge buck teeth and an overbite. I've considered jaw tightening surgery, but someone close to me whose opinion I really care about told me I shouldn't do it. I also have a complex about being short and slightly pudgy around the waist. I'm going into erotic modeling though, and I'm scared of even showing my face or full body in my shoots because the other models all have standard Western 'beautiful' faces and bodies...

This entire thread makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable (as does the thought that most women do feel the same way as /cgl/.)
Not here to preach or anything, it's just very sad that anybody should feel so badly about themselves. :c

The one and only cosmetic thing that I would have done to myself is getting dermal fillers to fill in my hereditary eyebags/sunken eyes. They're the worst that I've ever seen.. They were even visible as a baby, haha.

Just remember, seagulls. You may look fabulous, but your kids will probably serve as a reminder of what you used to be.

>>7297411
>I have breath implants

I know you mean breast implants, but picture this. Someone with bad breath getting breath implants instead of brushing their damn teeth.

>>7297571
I'm giggling uncontrollably, this thread is such a downer.

>>7296442
I also have this problem, and I believe that it is hereditary since my mother looks like she has a similar issue. Whenever I take me glasses of people always stare at me and go, "You look so...different." It's gotten to the point where I don't take my glasses off around people unless I'm going to sleep.

I also have an aquiline nose, but thankfully the roundness of my nose takes away from the bump. My sister got the brunt of that gene. Ever since she was in her preteens people would call her Pinocchio because of her nose.

>>7297579
>constant use of me instead of my
I just woke up from a nap. I'm sorry for the many, many spelling mistakes.

>>7297016
Same!! My biggest problem is laugh lines and hollows of my cheeks. They look so bad especially when I'm taking lolita photos I look older than I did in person...

>>7297571
Some people have bad breath due to something called tonsil stones. You can get surgery to remove your tonsils and correct the issue. It isn't always because they don't brush their teeth.

>>7297034
See the thing with corsets is they have more permanent effect when theres fat in the midsection to shape. People don't know this but fat DOES shift places hence why theres stuff like migrating breast tissue etc.

If you have little fat in your midsection you'll have less fat to displace to create the hourglass. So a corset may help you create a shape while wearing, but it won't train you far.

>>7297463
No.

>>7296032
i had one on my face removed and i have a huge scar there now where the stitches didn't close, I really regret getting rid of it because of the scar.

>>7296491
I feel your pain. I'm 5'1 and have size 10 feet. The thing is, everyone in my family has small feet, with my mom and sister being size 4's. They can share shoes and shop in the same section at shoe stores. I can comfortably fit into my dad's workboots, but they're not exactly cute. Apparently I get it from my grandmother.

Maybe some day they'll be a surgery for getting smaller feet. ;_;

>>7297594
Not to mention if you really start training and go down a lot, you get that weird bulgy lower abdomen

Shoe size Anons: I'm a size 12.

Fortunately, I'm also nearly 6ft so it isn't too out of proportion, but most shoe companies stop at around 9 or 10.

On the upside, it gives me an excuse to wear ridiculous stripper shoes because Pleaser/Demonia/Funtasma is practically the only company that makes nice and inexpensive shoes in my size because they partially cater to CDs.

>>7297379
Yeah, the most pain in the ass thing is that the hospital where a burn victim ex of mine was offered to spend his rehab time at does the surgery for free to anyone under 18.

I had just turned 18 when I heard about this.

The problem is, like I mentioned in the original post, insurance companies consider it a cosmetic surgery except for the extremely life threatening cases, so if I were to get surgery I would have to pay out of my own pocket. By the time I can afford it, I'll probably be in my 30s and the surgery will hold even more of a risk.

My mom first discovered it when I was 12, but every pediatrician we went to was either "hurr what's that?" or just took one glance and ignored it. Since it's on one side, you can't tell how deep it is because it's covered by breast tissue, but I can actually grab onto the side of my rib cage.

I would want nose surgery, I don't hate it entirely but it is definitely prominent and draws attention away from my eyes, it's very fleshy too, I guess I would just want it a little reshaped, it doesn't suit my lolita coords at all

I might get something done with the chubbiness of my face, but honestly the only thing I'm confident that I'll be getting is some minor labia plasty.

My minora isn't that bad as in they aren't meat curtains or anything, but one is kind of longer than the other and hangs down a bit farther than it should so it chafs during my period and sometimes during sex.

I'm kind of embarrassed to tell my bf I plan to do it. I don't really like how it looks either, the shape/colour is hardly the main reason I want it done. Though it would be nice to have qt labia.

This is a kind of reverse from what's being discussed in this thread, but does anyone have any experience with breast reduction surgery?

My boobs are too big and I hate it. I can't wear cute clothes most of the time because they aren't made for people with a big bust. Any clothes ordered from Japan/Korea are entirely out of the question unless they have no shape to them in the bust area. I can't buy bathing suits anywhere. Etc, etc.

Is to possible to go down to a specific size? I'd like to be a C cup but I don't know if that's possible.

Are the results even worth it or should I just keep my boobage?

>>7297803
If they don't cause you pain, I wouldn't bother and just deal with buying 2 piece swim suits and binding for clothes if you honestly think you can't work around it.

Losing some weight might help, if you're already light then build muscle and cut fat.

>>7297443
There were some but I used like 3 tubes of Mederma and now they are just about gone. Girls who tan get rid of scarring crazy fast but I prefer milk white skin.

The problem with getting the scar under your boob is if you don't get huge DDs that can't quite hold themselves up like a C cup can the scar is much more visible if you hold your arms over your head. So be sure you remember that when you shop for swimsuits.

The scar is no longer than my thumb nail trimmed down to the tip of my finger. No thicker than a q-tip. My doctor was amazing.

>>7297571
Rofl silly auto correct. Save your money, floss!

>>7297567
I don't want children, so I guess I'm good to go.

>>7297912
It's 2014, who still wants kids other than future mexican housewives?

>>7296728
Am I one of the few that likes his after photo better? But then I've always preferred softer more pretty boy/baby faced facial features in men.

>>7297928
Unfortunately almost everyone. And they love to call you selfish for your choice to not have any.

>>7297932
That's probably because you're a hopeless weeb. A man should look like a man.

>>7297939
All my friends has kids when they were 18, and now all they do is whine about their children and tell me how lucky I am that I don't have any.

>>7296826
a lot of Koreans look normal even after surgery, but jesus christ she looks plastic.

>>7296491
man and I thought I had big feet, 5'3 and 8 us

>>7297967
A man is a man. Having a softer face doesn't make them less of one. If that's his face, then that's what a man can look like too.
That's like saying real women have curves. So what does that make women who are stick thin.

It just bugs me when people say that this gender should look like this, and that gender should look like that.

The only procedure I'd really want is to bring my hairline down like 1 or 1.5 cm. I've got super thick, straight nice hair but I can style it any way I want BECAUSE OF THIS FUCKING HAIRLINE.

Maybe a nosejob but it's not too bad and I'm a guy so I think of it as more of a strong nose, looks like zyzz's nose actually.

>>7298033

*can't style it anyway I want

Can anyone here who's gotten a nose job tell me a little about what it's like? I really want to get my nose done this year. How expensive was it? Did it hurt afterward? What happens leading up to the surgery? How do you and your doctor figure out how your nose is going to look? I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS

Also before and after pictures would be cool too

>>7298015
fucking preach it

>>7296728
can't unsee duster from mother 3 in the before pic

>>7298134
Are you fuckin telling me we had a perfect Duster cosplayer who fucking surgeried away this vintage video game perfection

>>7298148
>gba
>vintage

>>7298015
No, hes not. Tell that to trannies and male traps that call themselves girls.

>>7297117
I have this too, and I actually look really good as long as I take the pictures myself (not just cellphone selfie angles, but with a dslr on a tripod with a remote). I honestly don't know if my face just turns ugly when I feel awkward or what, but I pretty much always look fucking dumb in other peoples' pictures even though everyone always tells me how pretty I am.

>>7296826
I think Bom went a bit too far in her surgeries.

My theory is that at first she did a bit of subtle work on her face (maybe even just eye surgery). Then with her medical problem which bloats her face, it kind of disturbed her face "harmony" and maybe made her surgeries more noticeable or displaced (i.e. possible chin implant). Afterwards she probably went under the knife several times to fix it and clearly went overboard.
Her nose looks weird now and was ok before all of it. Only the eye surgery really made her prettier IMO.
Pic related: Park Bom before

>>7298321
her chin looks so scary. she looks like an alien. its upsetting.

>>7298321
>>7298328
Word, these days Bom's whole chin is lopsided. Something definitely got botched. I'm worried that she'll literally die under the knife if she keeps going. Might be a weird fear that's completely unfounded but it just worries me. How many more surgeries does she plan to get before enough is enough?

>>7297939
This crap right here.
Even my previously no kids friends are converting.

>>7298357
I think maybe she's becoming one of those plastic surgery addict. I'm just scared to see how far she will go. She clearly has issues with her self/appearance (seems to have eating disorder as of lately) and can't see how she really looks like anymore. Which is really sad because she always was beautiful in reality.

>>7296255
Wasn't this fake?

>>7296666
Would someone really change their face to follow a "trend" though? If something is your preference, and the "trend" just makes it easier to obtain, then wouldn't you be happy with your choice whether it's "in style" or not?

>>7298148
Where the hell are all these namefags coming from?
It's annoying, especially considering they're all stupid and new seeming as shit.

>>7297939
I don't get this...I get called all kinds of shitty things for not wanting to have kids, and my thought is, wouldn't it be better for me not to have kids then, if I'm all those nasty things?

>>7296590
I guess I forgot beauty queens and models!
But I agree, most of the people who were stunning in their youth and clung to it instead of focusing on better things look like washed out drag queens when they age. Imagine Courtney Stodden at 50, yeowch.

>>7298701
I dont even think its much a trend, its just a generally more attractive thing.

>>7297016
Haha me too. I don't mind how I look irl but in the photos my mouth completely disappears, my nose pops out like a phantom jew and I generally look terrible. All photos have to be photoshopped for me to look even halfway decent, and even then it's a stretch.

>>7297031
Exercise. You're gonna be flabby if you don't exercise no matter how thin you are.

>>7298701
It's not a trend in the usual sense though, in that it's been and gone within a season or even something that mirror's economic trends such as the boom in retro and vintage styling (which is already waning and has lasted for several years). I think it's a 'trend' with the staying power of perhaps a decade or so - there's already hints that 'cute girl idol' looks are shifting towards a slightly more traditional, womanly, less 'Eurasian cute' type appearance. I honestly think a backlash at some stage is inevitable.

>>7298846
I meant to add that I don't think people are just absent-mindedly jumping on the bandwagon either, the perception of what is considered beautiful has shifted, which in turn slowly and almost insidiously influences public perception and no one is immune to it. You only need to look at historical paintings of 'beauties' across different eras to see how the concept of beauty has shifted. They loved 'weak round chins' in the early 17th century for example.

>>7298033
Wait they can do that???
I am relatively attractive but huge 5head to where bangs look weird, like I am balding.

>>7298873
she looks like she's fed up with all of y'alls crap

>>7296941
Gurl, PE aside, you have one smoking body dang

>>7297567
Oh man I actually have a kid plastic surgery story. One of my friends was telling me about how all of the asians in his area get plastic surgery.
Right outside of school this good looking guy married his really hot girlfriend who he was dating for a few years, and they had a kid. The kid was super ugly, turns out, the wife had plastic surgery when she was younger. She showed him pictures of her when she was a kid and apparently she was pretty hideous.
He divorced her and pretty much disowned his kid, he was so pissed she never told him about her plastic surgery before they had a child. He didn't want an ugly kid.

>>7297721
Dude, pretend your a hobbit. That's what I did as a kid, and I still do it today. It's a pretty awesome feeling, gonna go on an adventure

>>7297803
Usually when you're working out, first thing to go for me was always the boobs. Perhaps work out more?

>>7297474
The woman got a facelift, which is totally different, I know. But I just don't want a doctor who is a douche, I want someone who will do their best work to make me happy.

>>7298985
He's a dick and they're better off without him.

>>7298985

Isn't this the same story as that one circulating around the internet?

I really want a nose job, maybe jaw shaving, and I wouldn't mind a breast lift and nippleplasty. Not too fond of my labia, either.

But I'll never have the money. My career path takes home shit, and my boyfriend wants to do art professionally. Gonna be poor for life.

>>7299075
>boyfriend wants to do art professionally
lol drop that nigga ASAP

im getting a nose job, idk when but its happening.
if i raise my nose, my upper lip also raises and it makes my 0/10 smile actually cute.

my teeth are also shit but i dont plan on getting braces at 18 and ive also never been embarrassed by them because my jaw/lips/mouth do a good job at keeping them hidden (its also just the bottom row)

I want to get surgery done on my ears to make them more symmetrical, that's about it. Anyone else know that feel?

>>7299053
No, this was my current roommate's friend from highschool. But I wouldn't be surprised if similar situations have happened.

>>7297928
>>7297939

I respect your decision not to have kids, but I honestly hate this mentality you guys have against people who actually want them. Kids are something that you have later on in your life now when you're settled down and ready for them.

If someone tells you that you might change your mind when your older, don't scoff at them because chances are you will. I don't care what you say, but I've seen it happen with multiple friends (old!fag anon here, I'm in my 30s).

I just don't like this attitude with the younger generation. Not the "I don't want to have kids" part, because that's your decision and no one else's, but how dismissive I've noticed people have become in response to those who want to have kids.

>>7296089
and how do you know?

>>7297932
I like the guy in the after pic better, but the guy you posted is totally my ideal type, sooo cute

>>7299281
oh wait, i misread that post. Yeah, after is better to me, I prefer softer facial features and the likes. I think American/western culture just prefers features like high cheekbones and chiseled faces whereas that's not really considered attractive in most of Asia. Seriously though, I really dislike prominent chins and cheekbones.

>>7297428
Same here, I'm 5''4 and 94 and I eat around 2000kcal a day, pretty standard, I would think 95~105 would be more appropriate in Japan than America though because they tend to have a smaller bone structure. Like I have a VERY tiny frame and I have a friend of similar height and weight who has massive shoulders and hips and she looks like she's going to keel over dead any minute.

>>7299268
Not any of the anons you're replying to, but I'm one of those "don't want to have children" people. I'm a bit disgusted by girls that have babies for extra food stamps or welfare or to keep a man. If you genuinely want to have a child to love and nurture, I have zero problems with you because you'd be a responsible parent. My reason for not having any is that my family is a horrible web of bad genetics (diabetes, heart disease, etc.) on both sides. As my older siblings get older, I'm seeing their health deteriorate and it's depressing. Their kids are also having health problems too.

Anyway, sorry for OT.

>>7295999
Wow that is the most epic plastic surgery result I think I've ever seen. I'm not into asians, but jesus she's hot as hell now.

>>7299268
I'm the poster of >>7297939. I'm 29 and have never felt my feelings weakening on not wanting children. It's only become stronger since age 15 (when I decided to consider not having kids).

And what about how dismissive and rude people who do want kids become to those of us who don't want kids. We get looked at like we have two heads, get called selfish, told we'll never know what it's like to truly love someone or to be a selfless person (like having children makes you Mother Teresa all of a sudden, or no childfree person ever has done humanitarian acts of kindness), that our life will have no meaning or true joy without a child in it, say our lives and time aren't as important as theirs because we don't have children we have to take care of, assume we all just stay out and drink and party all night only to go to work the next day hung over, and there are even other women that say they wouldn't trust a woman for no other reason than because she choose not to have children. Yes these are all things that A LOT of childfree people get told by people who want/have children.

There's two sides to every coin, and a lot of people who want kids get just as much of an attitude, are dismissive, and downright rude and line crossing to the childfree. People who want childfree aren't innocent on the judging either.

>>7299906
I mean People who want child aren't innocent on the judging either.

>>7299906
This!! All of this. Perfectly explained. I'm 28, and I'm definitely never having children. I decided that at 10/11 and I am very adamant about my decision and don't like the condescending attitudes from people with children, saying I'm missing out on life or being a woman etc etc.

>>7299268
I'm your generation and I don't want kids.

Whenever people ask me when I'm planning to have kids, they refuse to believe that I may not want children. There's clearly something wrong with me. Or I'll change my mind. It's different when you have one. (Because I want to have a kid to see if I do actually like them!)
And finally, when I say no, no, no, I'm told I'm selfish. Why on earth that is I don't know, it would be awful to raise another child in this world where there's little hope, poor education and dismal prospects of a steady economy, work, etc. I'd say it's more selfish to have a child! I don't know why people have an urge to have children but most people I know want girls to have a little them to dress up. I don't have any maternal feelings at all so I am certain I'm wrong and missing something there though!


Anyway, onto plastic surgery. I'd love to have my nasolabial folds reduced because at the moment I look like Droopy and Margaret Palermo's lovechild. I'm planning on a holiday to Korea so I will see if there's any recommended surgeons closer to the time.

>>7299906
You forgot the old bingo classic, "but who will look after you when your old?!"
1) My army of cats of course (and my partner)
2) Do you only have children to ensure that you have someone to visit you once they pack you off the nursing home?! How entitled are you?!

>>7297423
botox injections, my friend.

I have a 10/10 face except for the dark circles under my eyes. They're even in my fucking baby pictures I've had them so long. Is there a surgery to get rid of them? I hate wearing makeup and they're the only thing I cover up. Also the veins are a bit noticeable in that area too. Can they surgically remove them?

>>7300261
Is it a physical depression or just discoloration? You can get fillers if there is a depression (tear trough). For discoloration, use a retinol + skin whitening, it will help thicken the skin and lighten.

>>7300280

Just discoloration. But holy shit that makes me happy. The skin is very thin and delicate, which is why the veins are visible.

When I was a kid everyone always thought I was sick or tired...

>>7300292
Is it weird that I have a fetish for guys who have dark circles/mild bags under their eyes? I think it's hot.
Like Tomoki Kuroki from Watamote.

>>7297034
No experience with corset training but Dita Von Tesse has and that's partially why she has such a small waist. Is it true that most people nowadays are rectangular/ruler shaped?

>>7300327

Um I'm not a guy so I don't care.

Not plastic surgery as such but having back surgery would be good. My back curves in a lot and I have mild scoliosis. If it was fixed I would be a lot taller (I'm 172 currently, less pain and be able to stand straight /much better posture). My neck also juts out a lot.

>>7300350
I was just making conversation. I hope you don't get your eyebags fixed and that noone thinks they're attractive if you shoot down people so quickly.
Stay sour.

>>7300350
>only interested if they're complimenting you in particular
That's kind of bitchy anon.

>>7300292
Retinol cream like Differin is pretty expensive, but you only use a tiny tiny bit at a time.
Make sure you understand how to use it, you have to build up by only using a little for longer periods of time (tiny bit for a couple hours then wash off and work up to using it overnight). And always always use suncreen and protect that area from the sun as much as you can.

>>7300366

I'm complaining about my circles and you want to start a conversation about how you think they're attractive on guys? Maybe you should learn some social skills.

Also there's a difference between bags under your eyes and dark circles.

>>7300380

I'm looking into it right now. There's a lot of stuff on the market.

http://www.amazon.com/RoC-Retinol-Correxion-Cream-Ounce/dp/B0009RFB76/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t

This has a lot of good reviews but it's a lot of people talking about wrinkles.

>>7300375

How did you get that from what I said? It's not like I posted a picture of myself seeking out praise and compliments. It was just a weird thing to say and I thought they were thinking I was a guy.

I mean if a girl was complaining/seeking help about being overweight you wouldn't say 'Is it weird that I think overweight guys are hot?' It just seems irrelevant.

>>7300379
I was saying I was attracted to both dark circles and bags. And also maybe if a girl is attracted to that a guy would be interested in that stuff too. I've met a couple who fucking are.
So no need to be an asshole to me for no reason if I wasn't even rude to you.

>>7300397

Actually my boyfriend and I both have dark cirlces but it's not something either of us view as attractive.

Sorry, anon. I didn't mean to be rude. I just thought you assumed I was a guy.

>>7300390
The amount in drugstore stuff like that really isn't going to help you. You need something with adapalene is it (but don't get the adapalene/benzoyl peroxide combo, that's just for acne). You'll probably have to see a derm to get Differin (if you want to get it from a reputable source). My tube has lasted for over two years though.
I use Differin plus a Shiseido whitening cream and I've definitely seen a difference.

>>7300024
Ugh, I hate people like that. My mum is one of those people and ever since I moved to another country she stopped telling me I won't have anyone to take care of me, because she had a kid and won't have that either now (I would do it, but physically can't).

I don't want kids either and I've been told off for it (parents think heritage and your tribe are the most important things in the world and want sons) but it still isn't the reason to stoop to those people's level. It'll just make them think worse of you and be more naggy and it'll all be for nought.

It's not about having kids, my extended family has heaps of children and while they're sometimes annoying pieces of shit for the most part they're nice and well raised because the parents are mature adults with stable jobs and they actually planned it.

The thing that's the issue is when people have kids. Younger mothers make a big deal Aotearoa it and to them it almost seems like they're not taking it seriously but playing house irl instead. But that's not something only childfrees hate, it gets on everyone's bollocks.

>>7300521
About*
Sorry, didn't see autocorrect, I'm sleepy as

>>7297123

I spent 20 minutes a day putting on makeup. Contouring and blending give me all the advantages of plastic surgery without the cost or the risk.

The number of people who "naturally" look great in person are next to nil. Moisturizer, foundation, and bronzer will serve you better than surgery.

>>7297803

How big are you? That is, what is your cup size, band size, height and weight?

If you're a G or something, then reduction is in order, but smaller than that--DD or smaller--there are bras and other kinds of strategies to wrangle your tits under control.

>>7300521
Sorry if I sound offensive or whatever but you sound so painfully Kiwi it's hilarious.

Haas anyone gotten a full set of dental implants or crowns? My teeth are very small and worn down but otherwise healthy.

I've always wondered about the aftereffects of surgery in the long run... for example: jaw shaving - sure the results can look great, but what will happen once aging hits you?
I've heard of people feeling colder/more sensitive in the jaw area during winter, etc.
I'm really curious!

>>7302136
But would just shaving a jaw do that. They just shave the bone, they don't take out fat right? I wouldn't think a big jaw bone would keep your jaw more insulated.

I plan on getting breast augmentation done summer 2015 because I have really ugly tits. Can't wait, I hate them so much I avoid dating completely and always wear a bra. Being naked is torture for me.

>>7295999
thinking about how they had to chisel away the bones in her jaw is terrifying to me

>>7301070

What you're looking for is veneers. I don't have any myself, but dental implants would require pulling all of your teeth and replacing them with ones that are screwed into your jaw. What you want is veneers, which is just a fake tooth set glued over your old ones, since they are healthy.

>>7302136
I'm planning on getting jaw shaving so from the research I've done,
>botched surgery can lead to death
>improper post-surgery care may lead to saggy facial muscles and skin with aging
>possible permanent numbness in areas due to nerve damage
>sore/achey jaw in damp and/or cold climates

>>7302172

It is true some people feel more 'cold' during winter in the face. They also have reports of people becoming more sensitive to hot or cold foods, to the extent of not even being able to eat it. The exact opposite however also happen, some report even completely losing feeling in their jaw area while some report constant pain.

Although all they do is shave the bone they still have to get through the nerves to get there. One accidental poke could leave you a little hypersensitive or sore.

It just depends on your surgeon, where your nerves happen to be and such.

People report the same things from surgeries as benign as wisdom tooth extraction. It's just a chance you take.

>>7301070
>>7302360
I have veneers on my top front 6 teeth, and I agree that's what you probably want.
Mine are porcelain, which are the most realistic, but also the most expensive, $1000 each tooth after insurance (I had a defect that resulted in my teeth growing in missing enamel, so we were able to get some covered by insurance - it'll be totally cosmetic in your case though).

Mine was an extreme case due to the defect, but it was life-changing for me.

Probably not any different from anything this thread hasn't heard before, but I want breast implants.

I've wanted them since I was nine, large breasts, that is. I was an A cup all throughout high school and only obtained 34B breasts this year as a result of a birth control side effect. I was told as a teen that I'd get larger ones, until I found out that my Mother had breast implants all along and just wasn't telling me that it wasn't in the cards for me to get them naturally.

I suppose that I feel like less of a woman for not having large ones. My waist is 22 inches and my hips are 36. If I could just have a large top, I'd be very happy with my overall measurements.. Yet, friends of mine who are large breasted tell me to be thankful and to keep them small.

>>7302368

Botched surgery leading to death is a little misleading... aside from a completely incompetent surgeon severing the wrong blood vessel death most commonly occurs from infection.

Bone marrow in the jaw isn't the same as the kind that produced blood in our chest and such... but there is still a living 'center' to any bone. If they shave too much and accidentally cut into the "living tissue" a very nasty infection can occur.

Having a lowered immune system I've went through a bone infection with staph before and it is very, very painful. Worse, infections in the bone can be incredibly hard to treat as it is much harder to determine the bacteria responsible for the infection. Very few antibiotics work in the bone or blood. Also since the bone doesn't allow for much 'pus' before it'll burst due to lack of room, there's high chances for it to turn to septicemia. Just find a clean hospital.

I feel like a different jaw shape would suit her better than the after pic.

I used to want to get a nose job (thanks to cal actually) until I went to an Asian country and everyone shit their pants over how fantastic my nose was (basic large slavik white girl pointed nose).

Nowadays I want to do something about my chin. I think I have that thing where my jaw is too short, so I have a bubble of fat/skin/tissue right under my chin. It's not from being overweight because I've had it since I started developing a unique face, though I'm sure losing weight would decrease its size.
I also want to get my cheeks reduced because I think they're quite chubby, but this is yet another thing people in said Asian country loved.

No one notices the bubble of fat under my chin until I talk about it, but I always notice it and think it makes me look weird and ugly. Also my cheeks are so large that they completely hide my cheek bones.

Does anyone know if you can get like lipolaser done instead of invasive surgery for that kind of thing?

>>7302378
Don't, small breasts are aesthetically superior and less of a pain in the ass.

>>7302378
natural big booby anon here

I have a love-hate relationship with my boobs. On the one hand, they get lots of love for being on the large size. On the other hand, they're super awkward.

If you have itty bitty titties, going without a bra or even having your nipples out a bit is kind of chic and cute. With big walloping balloons, not so much. I have small ribs, but because my boobs are large they cover my ribs and make my torso a weird blob from the front without a bra.

They also get really sore on my period, and walking up and downs stairs is next to unbearable without a bra unless I literally cradle them.

Also they get saggy easier and just generally get in the way.

But natural boobs work different from breast implants, so...

Oh and bras, bathing suits, and tops with fitted busts are a nightmare.

>>7302378
Tiny titty master race, girl.

I used to be really conscious about my chest, but I now realize a few things :

1- I will always have perky tits. When I'm 50, my boobs will still be as perky as they are now, whereas some of these girls will have their nipples hanging at their waist.

2 - a lot of guys don't actually like huge tits /on/ their girl. They like looking at them, sure, but when it comes to handling them, there IS such a thing as too much boob. It's overwhelming and hand-eating. Smaller boobs are also more sensitive, because boobs have the same amount of nerve endings no matter the size.

3 - a lot can go wrong with implants, especially as you age, and it's just not worth it to either look like a fucking freak, or have to have more surgery to have them removed.

4- I DON'T HAVE TO WEAR A BRA. I love it. Never change, boobs <3

>>7303116
Different annon here.
I would love to have those problems, I don't even care. My tits are so small and have no fucking tissue on the top and are pathetically "perky". They're not shallow by any means, they just sit a bit low on my chest. They don't even look good in a push up bra. They are a hand full and that's it

Pic related my tits more or less, they are definitely bottom heavy

>>7303147
no need to take out your insecurity on people with bigger boobs than you. also it's incredibly stupid to think that implants make someone look like a freak. a lot of implants are done so well these days it's almost impossible to tell when they're done right.

>>7300829
Haha it's cool, I've been told that. Unfortunately, I don't notice it myself and when I did try to sound more eloquent it just sounds forced, so I quit bothering. One step at a time, I guess, my diction is atrocious so I'll be fixing that first.

>>7303116
With natural gazongas you can wear a minimizer, with balloon implants it's a lot harder, I think.
Also forget about low-cut shirts and sweaters, button-up shirts and the like.

>>7303177
Unfortunately a lot of them do look fake. The thing is, it wouldn't be much of an issue and they'd look better if girls who did their tits didn't always choose bigger implants and try to go up several sizes. With tiny tits especially they look like balloons because there's not enough tissue to cover the implant and most girls aren't happy just enlarging them a little.

>>7303171
I like how the boobies in the pic look like a disgruntled face

Am I the only one who feels plastic surgery will not be worth the trouble because soon I'll be old and ugly and what the fuck, might as well leave things as they are?

I'm turning 20 this year and there's almost no chance of me getting a plastic surgery before the next year. I'm still so used to being a cute teenager that the thought of turning into a twenty-something just leaves me so depressed I want to eat everything and give up on a future altogether.

And yeah, I'm one of those people with beauty issues. I'm terribly socially inapt (I have mild autism that still cripples me bad) and the few people I know and the few people that like me are drawn to me mostly because they believe I look good. I'm scared of what will become of me once I'm no longer pretty ;_;

>>7303238
Honey, you're 19. You have nothing to be worried about until you turn 40, and even then it's a stretch. Just take care of your skin and body and the rest will follow, if you get plastic surgery you'll age even worse.
Lots of women age well. Look at Audrey Hepburn, for example. My grandma too, she's 80 and looks 50-something, for her age that's fantastic. Don't fry your hair, get a beauty routine going, watch out what you put on your face and don't use 'vegan' makeup because that shit is terrible and badly made for the most part. Use oil, fragrance, paraben and alcohol-free products when possible, wear sunscreen or BB cream and don't put on too much product. When you're no longer pretty nothing will change if you made the right choices and focused on bettering yourself, education, building skills and advancing your career. Beauty fades and if you care for it too much it'll devastate you, aging is a natural process and no one should be scared of it. People concentrate on youth too much that they forget that youth isn't that great all the time. You'll be happier when you grow older, in part because you'll have enough confidence and experience to know better than to concentrate on how hot someone finds you.
Cheers and good luck.

>>7303238
You are crazy. I'm turning 25 this year, and everyone talks about how young I am. Stop beating yourself up. If you have a good skincare routine, you'll look gorgeous in your mid twenties to late fifties! Just stay out of the sun, wear sunscreen, drink lots of water, and of course exercise!

>>7302392
Ugh, I'm cringing so hard at this.

I am kinda self concious about my face, If I was to get plastic surgery on it what would be anyones recommendation?

>>7303653
nose tip reduction, maybe. you look like you kinda have a bulbous nose tip.

>>7303653
nose, chin, cheekbones... lose weight.

damn seagulls be horrendously ugly.

>>7303094
>>7303116
>>7303147
Thank you for your input. I just feel like less of a woman and I thought that I was almost a perfect hourglass.. until my small chest messed all of that up. I can't wear certain tops that flatter larger breasted women and I'll never be able to do cosplays that I want to do, despite having love for the characters. I've seen how nasty /cgl/ gets about small chested Yokos, even if the cosplay itself is well made and accurate. I don't get how they're 34B and some girls here have the same size and are able to use push up techniques with bras and taping, but mine won't do that. They just won't.

>>7303653
Eh... you look fine. I'm getting a lip implant to look like you...

>>7303177
Uh, actually? Have you seen Yaya's?

And, aside from her, my own Mother's didn't look good. My Mother was built small like me and inflated her A cups to D cups. She gained weight with two more pregnancies, never got them fixed during routine check ups like you're actually supposed to be doing with implants (they aren't a one and done deal and sag as you age), and the doctor who performed her surgery actually destroyed a nerve in her one nipple. Her one nipple is now forever hard. Last year, she finally got them taken out. Although having given them some thought because I want to be larger up there, they are a lot of work. You have to be careful with weight gain among other things.

>>7303653
Definitely nose, maybe a little on the chin. How do you look in profile?

>>7303177
>also it's incredibly stupid to think that implants make someone look like a freak.

Yeah, this totally doesn't look like a Thai ladyboy.

>>7303858
It's less her boobs, and more her face. She has a masculine face.

She did go over the top with those implants, though.

>>7303861
She does have masculine features and a chunky body, not to mention a flat ass with stretch marks on it. The implants really don't help, though. They actually make her appear heavier. The big, blue vein is pretty gross, too.

>>7303868
i thought veins were normal even in natural tits

>>7303874
I've only ever seen bulging, blue veins in the top of tits when they're sloppy or large and like.. shoved up to the neck. I'm looking at mine in the mirror right now and I don't see a single vein. I'm sure that they're there, obviously, but mine aren't visible for whatever reason.

>>7303177
I was referring to how implants look when you're old and wrinkly.

> especially as you age

And, starting with tiny boobs. 9/10 they look fucking awful, because girls want DDs when they've only got A cups now.

>>7303901
So, if I have 34B now and my waist is 22 inches, my hips are 36, and I have large thighs, honestly how large should I even go IF I were to consider this surgery seriously? Because I don't want to be Tata Han.

>>7303653
All you really need is to not pluck your eyebrows so much in the middle, they're a little far apart.

>>7303915
It's suggested to not go up more than 1-2 cup sizes. Of course, it all depends on the actual size of your boobs (as cup size doesn't mean anything concrete, really) but I wouldn't take it above a C cup to be safe. A reputable surgeon will go over this with you and make suggestions as to your final size.

>>7303941

holy shit what a face.
they did a real good job on her!

>>7303941

She would've been the perfect Elphaba before.

>>7303757
In the end it's up to you. I would recommend a lot of self-reflection before getting implants, and if it's really worth it because it's just like BAM, TITTIES. They won't really feel like real boobs, and you have to make sure to get surgeon that will make them look realistic rather than weird and stick straight out.

Also ask about scarring and all that kind of stuff. Find a good surgeon, etc etc.

In the end, after talking to a surgeon, thinking about scarring, possible inability to breast feed, having to possibly do follow-up surgery etc, if you still want big boobies then do it!

Good luck, anon! ^^

>>7303889
big boob anon with blue veins. I have fairly translucent skin though (low pigment).

So fuck all y'all, getting obsessed over tiny things like VEINS. God forbid I have blood flow to my boobs.

>>7304030
You fiend, how dare you have a blood supply!

In all seriousness, this big boob anon only has one or two slightly visible veins, so it must vary from person to person.

>>7304030
>fuck you for having an opinion!1!!1!!1

okay

>>7304030
Just because it's there doesn't mean it's attractive. It still looks gross.

>>7303889
>>7304030
....I'm a fucking pancake and my veins are visible too????? I'm not incredibly pale either so...
I have no idea how normal or not normal it is to be honest but apparently it's not just big boobs I guess, just depends on the person.

>>7304099
I don't see how you interpreted "I find obsession of blue veins annoying" as "fuck you!!1!!1" but ok

>>7304161
>So fuck all y'all, getting obsessed over tiny things like VEINS. God forbid I have blood flow to my boobs.

read your own post whore

>>7304176
I don't think she was serious. Ever heard of joking around?

>>7304176

>calling me a whore for literally no reason

wow, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed

>>7299906
Good luck when you are old and no one visits you and all your friends and family are dead. I wonder how you will feel on your death bed knowing your legacy is dying with you.

>>7304135
It's totally normal. It just depends on the person.

One of my friends is quite overweight, pale and has large boobs and she has no veins.

I have another friend who is very slim with probably 30C or B and she has crazy veins.

>>7304182
>>7304183
no because you women are all whores

>>7304197
it's ok, anon, your ex girlfriend can't hurt you anymore

>>7304197
at least we have something in common
not sure if we'd beat you in a cock sucking competition

>>7299268
>because chances are you will. but I've seen it happen with multiple friends...

First off, you're own personal experiences don't mean shit, so don't fucking pull that one.

Secondly, just fuck off with this all-knowing, future-seeing bullshit. Do you not realise how much saying "Oh, you'll probably change your mind" undermines people? Even if it is the case that the majority end up changing their mind, don't undermine people that haven't. Fucking cunts like you breed acceptance of shaming the child-free.

>I don't care what you say

But i'm going to shit all over you anyway, because i'm a cunt.

>>7304247

Fuck. First of*, your* etc etc I can't spell for shit right now.

>>7304247
We need more child-free people, look how much fucking overpopulation we have.
People who have 9 children (not by some freak birth but by choice, each one after the other) are the most selfish people I can think of.

If you really want a shitload of kids, ADOPT SOME OUT OF THE SYSTEM. You don't NEED to spread your fucking seed and genes all over this infested earth.

>>7303858
That roger rabbit being walked by makes me so happy

>>7303653
I would get some eyes put in.

Does anyone have experience with laser treatments/otherwise for scars? I have a palm-sized burn scar on one of my boobs from when I was really young and I just wish my chest looked normal :(
I have also heard some lasers do not work on darker skin, is that true?

>>7298714
You must be new, because Tim's a photog and has been here for ages, he just doesn't trip.

>>7304979
Since dark skin tends to, well, darken even more when damaged (and lasers are just micro-tears in the skin that get healed over), they're not recommended for darker skinned people. It can usually make your scars worse.

>>7303941
Have any caucasians ever went to Korea and got this surgery? All I can find are asians going. I have a really masculine face, I'd love to look as cute as this.

>>7305574
I think she has an overbite in this one too. Her face just looks strangely fat.

>>7296065

Result of fixed and improved breathing. Known side effect of some nose surgeries. Kudos to it taking effect.

>>7303941
Holy shit man, they did an excellent job on her, but imagine if their children born with her before face

>>7304199
Yes because children are always a 100% guarantee to have people visit you in the future. Elderly getting put into nursing homes and barely getting visited by their children or grandchildren never happens at all ever.

And some people don't care about having a legacy.

Guys, go argue about having or not having children somewhere else.

Anyway, pic rel is pretty good, I never really thought of fat injections to the forehead as essential, but they look very nice. Though her eyelids look kinda uneven in the second picture. Hopefully that's just due to some post-op puffiness and will go away eventually.