/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>7282052
OP, what did you think of the documentary?
because we all know that's why you're here

>>7282114
>not linking it

anon pls

>>7282117
>implying you're too retarded to find it yourself
comeon anon, you've got googlefu, you should use it

I wouldn't mind at all if it became a real trend.
My dna is 100% eastern European. Round small face and small mouth and nose becoming mainstream?
Fuck yeah.
I'm not ugly, I look like a ~*doll*~

>>7282120
yeah im trying, how about not being a sandy cunt

I think lolitas everywhere worship her or something?

>>7282129
I'm sandy because it was greatly exaggerated and staged.. that "reality" Tv show shit.
just look up "my strange addiction living doll"

>>7282128

I know a polish who is butt ugly. Not all Eastern Europeans look hot unfortunately.

Then again I know a pretty fucking beautiful Romanian. God she is gorgeous.

>>7282139
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OH GOD

your newfag

its great

>>7282144

>getting trolled this hard

>>7282052
it looks fake and ugly as fuck. circle lenses make you come from outer space. And that's not a compliment. i only have european dna and as the anon above i have round face, eyes small nose, ect. But i have to say it wont become a trend, men like cute girls not living dolls.

>impliying you do it for men

AND i you're les would you like to be with a freaking ''living doll'' like, wait i've gotta put my lenses, and act like i'm lifeless!

>>7282168
I like people with circle lenses and stuff, but not people who say they're ~LIVING DOLLS~
I mean how retarded is that?

>one year
>ERM AH LEEVEN DUHLL GUIZ

Emily annoys me intensely/

I think it's the new scene.
>literally no basis in any actual subculture, just a mishmash of different styles (half-baked weeaboo fashion mixed with twee mixed with Tumblrcore "pastel goth"/creepyyeha garters)
>people who dress in it are usually neurotic, insecure and insufferable teens or young adults
>self-absorbed "queens" (Dakota, Venus, Valeria, etc) and easily shitted up makeup
>common website they almost all like to attention whore and post pictures of themselves on (Tumblr or vk)
All it needs now is more guys, trashier tryhards, an outlet like stickydrama and it's good to go.

>>7282200
Forgot to add that there's a stupid amount of fake profiles rping as the "queens".
Really, there are a shitload of parallels between the two.

>>7282168

How about doing it for yourself...

>>7282200
There was already Frank Wolf as far as guys go, we're getting there

I just wish I had the shoop skills. Someone needs to make a tutorial.

>>7282257
There was one on PULL

I think the trend should be called "Living Photoshop" because it more aptly describes the style.

Honestly the ones trying to look like dolls aren't all that horrible, it's the ones trying to look like ANIMUUUU that are fucking disgusting.

>>7282259
link? I don't feel like sorting through all that shit.
and I'm a different anon btw

>>7282128
East European but not round faced.
I was round faced when i was a fatass 12 yr old tho.
What do to jump the trend and have a round face again

>>7282259
bumping for link.
im ugly

some people will find it ugly but then again, some people find adult looking women with big breasts and tiny waist ugly as well. or fit women.

i think they all look beautiful for their own reasons but i love the childlike aesthetic. little girls are commonly by far the best kind of beautiful. in my opinion. thats why i want to get into it, though i doubt id be satisified with what im attempting until i got some surgery. i'm a little pissed and sad with myself i cant do my makeup in 3 minutes and still look like a porcelain doll a la the recount by bodyline on that bodyline vs. venus thing.

>>7282266
This is a slow board. Get out you fucking newfag.

>Living doll = looking like a doll
Nice, I find it aesthetically pleasing.
>Living doll = lifestyle
Utter bullshit. Most times this is just an erroneous name given by media or general public that have little knowledge about some fashion trends like lolita.
Getting up early to put on your makeup, wig, contact lenses and false lashes isn't being a living doll: many women who don't aim to have this doll-like appearence (ex: any girl in gyaru fashion) do it aswell.

>>7282271
wow are you kidding

if two people wanted the link then it makes it more probable someone who knows about it will be inspired to post it, i just added bumping to the sentence absentmindedly tame those crabs

>>7282273
Its not just wiggery, lenses and lashes, its childish/cute fashion too.

See I'm sort of into the living doll look and sometimes get told I look like a fairy with the way I dress but I feel that if I was to become famous for being a living doll and have to lie through photoshop, xuixui or whatever it would be super stressful.

>>7282281
Er, there was no content in that post except the bump. What was your supposed point of making that post then if the bump wasn't it?

Link to the living doll episode. It was on VA's channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bL-o4JNNZc&feature=c4-overview&list=UUIyMwXronD5pT5cx-G_KSHA

>>7282289
If you look back at the reply it was about asking for a tutorial from PULL, that's why they replied to the post.

>>7282266
http://doxiequeen1.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/xiuxiu-a-simple-online-photo-editor-english-walk-through-and-guide/
Also look for a video tutorial in Valeria Lukyanova's board
>>7282271
>>7282289
Piss off you sandy moll, she asked nicely

I wonder if Dakota will get surgery to look like her shoops?

>>7282302
>tfw already use xiuxiu
>and it sucks

but I want to look ultra-fake like kooter

I thought you meant a tutorial to achieve that specific look

>>7282303
Just play around. It works

I love this trend because I've always wanted a pretty doll gf whom I could play with and admire. Dealing with a dolls personality would be a lot easier than the bullshit around nowadays. I mean, as long as she's not too broken.

Raw verse xiuxiu. Maybe I'll make a tutorial. Idk.

Oh man. Downloaded this app. Way to much fun.

>>7282305
wow u look so kawaii! ~*living dorr*~ indeed.

>>7282319
ikr??! pretty cute alien ppl! play with dolls! ew society nowdays!!!! hmm yes u dont want one so crazy w/ herself lol!!!!

>>7282305
It works? If you want to look like a Photoshop alien then yeah, I guess it does.

>>7282200
Reminds me of the wolf trend, too. That delusional Wolfie Blackwell or whatever and her followers, it's kind of like that to me. At least scene kids had one foot on the ground, these people are questionable.

>>7282320
please do the tutorial.

>>7282320
dat blush tho

>>7282305
But that looks like shit.

>>7282168
no
looking like an alien is a compliment
so whenever people say I look freakish for wearing circle lenses I get very happy.

Humans are ugly, I like looking like a freak to them.

>>7282255
He's dead though.

Did nobody else think this trend died when Dakota moved to Japan and changed her face again? Why has it suddenly sprung up again?

>>7282817
Venus and Margaret are trollin us.

Did anybody see that video Venus put up about Mr. Yan? I didn't get to see and I'm so curious.

>>7282843
In the archive there were a couple threads about it and someone posted the video on another site once it was removed but had to change the audio. If you look you can find it. In the meantime, have this gif.

>>7282200
>>literally no basis in any actual subculture, just a mishmash of different styles (half-baked weeaboo fashion mixed with twee mixed with Tumblrcore "pastel goth"/creepyyeha garters)

jesus christ this. It seems as if people are coming up with more and more half-assed styles to label themselves as to be unique and sort of a pioneer in the fashion scene, when in actuality it's just to avoid criticism of their unorganized coords. As in:
>You can't say that about my outfit! I never said I'm (legit style)! It's nobodygivesafuck-kei which allows me to not care at all how I look!

Add a shitty shop at storenvy filled with overpriced diy fimo jewelry and you have a new queen of pastel-grind-idgaf-kei.The living doll crap is just your generic bodyline/loli/himekaji but with an extra dash of attention whoring added to it. As a lifestyle it just reminds me of furries or otherkin shit.

>>7282843
https://vimeo.com/82477325

>>7282843
I checked the archives and someone put it up on google docs or whatever and with original audio and everything.

>>7282856
not that anon but I just saw that and I'm high. You have no idea how much I regret opening this thumbnail.

>>7282869
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1ri_VeoRIjmUlptRXVnLUJiWFU/edit?usp=sharing
Try this link.

>>7282861
>nobodygivesafuck-kei
You mean Aomojikei right?
People started using that term when Kyary came on the scene, I wish they'd just stick to it.

>>7282432
>implying ppl are smart enough to notice.

>>7282878
Aomoji is just fucking generic harajuku style. I can't believe people are acting like it's a new thing, even less that people think Kyaru invented it.

>>7282896
People were acting like it was a new thing, about a year or two ago when Kyary happened like I said.
Stop acting like people acting like it's a new thing, is a new thing.
GAWD.

>>7282860
Thank you!

>>7282168
whoa i forgot trends were all for catering to men's tastes

>>7282128
I'm euro also, but I don't have a round face. That's not a European trait. I have a longish diamond face.

>>7282372
that was an old one I did while playing around with program.

>>7282408
I might make a video. I just don't have a program to film my screen. Are there any decent free ones?

>>7282200

not related but fuck, I hate pastel goth. There is such things are "perky goths" but the pastel colors in what is otherwise a subculture with predominately black clothes is and without a musical genre to accompany it is... ugh.

>>7282861
This. So much this. Living dolls just seems to be
>dress up
>photoshop self to alien proportions
>post on FB, tumblr, Instagram etc
>???
>profit

I just watched the strange addiction episode and that Emily girl was beyond annoying. Why go job hunting in bloomers??? At least wear a nice skirt over it.

>>7283576
She actually made a video on that.

They made her use her cosplay name as her alias and all.

It won't let me link her video but it's the new year one.

>>7282792
well hello valeria

>>7283937
I hope you're right

>>7282817
>>7282823
I hope they keep it up, I could use a good fap

>>7282199
They editted what she said quite often though, not unusual for TLC.

>>7283443
>implying that music still has to do anything with subcultures these days
>implying you need to wear black to be goth

>>7283682
She's an idiotic for even agreeing to be on that show. She isn't addicted to anything. Just a trendy tumblrfag.

>>7284764
When they filmed they presented it as a documentary and didn't use the name My Strange Addiction.

>>7284784
Isn't that illegal though?

>>7284787
No.

>>7283682
link?

I think it's a cute look to wear occasionally, and I find ball jointed dolls aesthetically beautiful, but most of the "living doll" popular personalities are incredible irritating. You have to be a special kind of self obsessed to go to so much trouble to look like a doll every morning and base your whole life around being a living doll. I mean, even to say the words "I'm like a living doll" is a major warning sign.

>>7284787
No. Reality TV can do anything they want in terms of how they present you. It is sad, but this happens to so many people. Funny how people were making petitions for it to get off air and shit since she spoke out on tumblr.

>>7283682
I'm going to need a source on this.

>>7284808
Go to her facebook page, she uploaded the video there. It's LunaLovely or something like that

>>7284905
I just saw it. What an obnoxious person. Why does she have so many followers?

>>7284921
Huh, it seems she's a cosplayer.
I think i like her better as a cosplayer, it seems to fit better.

All her Venus Angelic wannabeisms are just dire, though. She should drop that shit and just stick to trying to be a cosplay idol or something.

>>7284756

Sorry, but wearing pink clothes is not goth.

>>7284784
Uh
"Today is the day~ My Strange Addiction
Goodness i'm not sure if i want to laugh or vomit! bwahaha its a little embarrasing but mostly hilarious! Reality tv is so silly xD But i cant wait to see cutie pie Venus and the handsome Justin~"
I do think she knew.

>>7284905
Jesus christ what an obnoxious person. I don't buy any of the "the big bad TLC lied to her and forced her to perform scripted drama she didn't want" shit, judging by her facebook page and photos she seems really fucking annoying and starving for media attention.

>>7284936
Even naked a goth is still a goth, just saying.

>>7285018
That's like saying a punk is still a punk if he becomes some poloshirt wearing desk jockey.

>>7284967
No, she didn't, they filmed everything in summer and not recently.

>>7285021
>Implying all subcultures are only pieces of fabric
So according to you everybody shopping at Hot Topic is goth then.

>>7285018
> music doesn't make a subculture
> clothes don't make a subculture

Then WHAT does, anon?

>>7285021
Punk is primarily an ideology, not an aesthetic.

>>7285022
Oh, ok then!

>>7285025
Get a dictonairy, maybe? There is culture in subculture for a reason and a subculture is still a combination of quite a bunch of things and just because someone adds stupid pastel colors to an outfit while being part of the actual subculture, it doesn't make the person less a member of it.

>>7285024
There are such things as posers you know.
Part of a subculture is clothing, but a lot of it is how you act. Fashions that borrow words from subculture fashions may not prescribe to the subculture they borrow the word from, but it's still going to piss people off if they personally do.

Subcultures that have fashions that tie to them are pretty protective of them, that's why posers exist anyways.

Obviously people do what they have to to survive but I know punks who say they'd rathr die than stop living life how they please.

>>7285026
It's both. Things like goth and punks are a mixture of ideology and aesthetics and they tend to hate people who care about the aesthetic without caring about the ideology part, ie a poser.

>>7285033 seems to have the right idea down.

>>7285030
The point is that pastel goth isn't called that because people of the goth ideology want to wear pastels, pastel goth is a fashion, it's purely aesthetic and has nothing to do with goth, so people who are ideologically and aesthetically goth are going to be bothered by the use of the word.

>>7285033
Thank you. This is the defining rule between a fashion style and a subculture.

>>7282137
yeah anon, I know people too

>>7284795
thats fucked up.
thats my new annoyance, that, and photoshopping makeup ads should be illegal.

>>7282817
i want to hug her and put my face in her boobs

Kotatoki seems to get a fair amount of model jobs even though she used and still uses photoshop way too much. Fact is, she still looks good irl and most people in the industry use photoshop themselves (look at that belebel covers). I just really want to know if she makes money that doesn't just pay living expenses in Japan. If so... she made it guys.

I wonder when Venus will change her taste, I mean she's 16 or something. What if her dream of moving to Japan will turn into something more realistic that involves more people than herself and her mom. I mean... her mom will die one day, too. Inb4 big drama trainwreck of her falling for a Japanese pedo and moving in with him. We all had this already with Yukapon.

>>7282817
Dead? what the fuck??

>>7285886
I thought it was a hoax?

>>7284905
she looks ugly as fuck without the makeup, ewww.

>>7285900
dude, there are pictures of his urn

>>7285900
no, he definitely killed himself. There was an obituary, confirmation from family etc
Some crazy, disrespectful fans tried to actually make people believe he wasn't dead/it was a lie.

>>7285021
You're a goddamn retard. You can be punk no matter what you are wearing. It's a subculture based on music and ideology, not clothes you fuck.

>>7285986
accidentally left a title in there whoops.

>>7284905
>>7283682
how the fuck did she "not know" she was being filmed for my strange addiction

>>7285970
I'm sorry, who is this? I'm trying to follow the thread but I don't know who we're talking about.

>>7285995
http://therealbitchpudding.tumblr.com/post/72353337037/i-dont-believe-that-anyone-who-signed-up-for-that-show

you have to zoom in to be able to read this, but here are the emails they sent to people they asked to be in the show.

>>7285996
Frank Wolf, the French Canadian guy that used lots of photoshop to look kawaii uguu

>>7286041
Oh I remember now. How terrible. : (

>>7282136
how about fuck cunts like you
different anon you were being sandy to, but I tried numerous websites and tried looking everywhere for it and nothing worked for me.

who shit on your petticoat

>>7286004
Oh that's just nasty. Can we just refer people who keep saying they did it on purpose to this post or something?

>>7285970
Haha bullshit, his death is so faked it's not even funny.

>>7286057
Can you provide something to back up that claim? People repeatedly posted proof of his death.

>>7286055
yes. I have it saved.

the sad part is, this is completely legal to do.

>>7286057
Exactly which part of that is bullshit?

>>7286060
This is scary because I was asked by my neighbor, who works for a TV station, for an interview of me and my husband because we met online and they were doing a documentary on "online couples" - despite us not being an 'online couple' for a long long time, we just met online and that's it.
We declined because we were too embarrassed, but damn that was probably dodging one big bullet.

>>7286065
It would've probably turned into something like 90 Day Fiance. I wonder how many of those people are being talked about for being "in it for the visa/money"

>>7286072
Honestly? It was exactly like that. Not the 90 day part, of course, but the being talked about part. After the first few years I could really see who my actual friends were, because a LOT of them started saying how I was "not REALLY in love with him, maybe he has rich parents or is famous" because we had no friends in common and were from different cities. Meanwhile he was a high school dropout, too awkward to function and stuck in his room all the time because of being bullied (he used to have bad acne). Now those "friends" are too scared to talk to me because they know I know and we proved them wrong.

I don't know, some catty bitches never grow out of it, it seems.

>>7286062
You can start by backing up this public statement his family allegedly made about him being actually dead by providing caps (assuming we're to believe this was his real family and that they're not part of the following).

Second of all, people (especially attention whores in over their heads) fake their deaths ALL THE TIME. There are organizations that even help people accomplish this. Two internet obituaries don't prove anything, especially ones that give no information about a wake WITH a body. It's pretty easy to buy a cremation vase and stick a pikachu next to it.

There's nothing in the local newspapers about this kid ever having died.
http://xfrankwolf.tumblr.com/
Here's his tumblr with him posting on it the day after he was allegedly dead.

Not to mention all of the phony charities that popped up the day after he died to raise money for "funeral expenses," of which the identity of the person(s) collecting the money was never revealed.
Seriously, what won't you people believe on the internet?

Good for Rozen Maiden cosplay.

>>7286060

Doesn't the Daily Show and Colbert Report do this a lot too? I remember James Jones once mentioning how he got all these crazy interviews by basically saying he was from a cable channel news network and wanted to interview them.

>>7286095
I gotta admit, anon has a point.
With as many fans as he had it makes zero sense why his suicide didn't receive more attention, since teen suicides usually have such a public outcry. Especially if they did it over being bullied or cyberbullied.
It's not like he was unknown. It's highly suspect.

>>7286095
>>7286105
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/montrealgazette/obituary.aspx?pid=168229057

>>7286108
>http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/montrealgazette/obituary.aspx?pid=168229057

Legacy.com doesn't prove anything and doesn't disprove his death being staged.
The family and funeral directors can agree to stage a death and publish an obit. There is still no local sources where he lives.

>>7286115
Agreed. Staged when people were starting to find his porno videos and his kawaii uguu image was being shredded for the fact.

>>7286115
anon's tumblr link doesn't either, he posted there last on november 24th and is said to have died on the 25th.
How many people actually live in his city to find an actual local news source? Furthermore, why would his family and the funeral directors go so far as to fake a death?

>>7286121
>Furthermore, why would his family and the funeral directors go so far as to fake a death?
Simply because he asked them to?
You don't get it. You seriously cannot fathom that people make awful decisions in life, find themselves in bad circumstances, and want to escape them without actually dying.
And for him it wouldn't be hard to take on a new identity considering most of his was photoshop, makeup, and a bunch of obscured personal info on the internet. We don't even know if that was actually his real name or if both were just aliases.

His name shouldn't keep getting brought up when nobody has any realistic ways to confirm anything.

>>7286120
>his porno videos
Wait a minute, provide a link.

>>7286134
http://fapgay.com/frank-wolf.porn&o=recent
First one obv. It's been ~*~mysteriously deleted~*~ but if you hover your mouse over the video preview you can see more caps of it.
Before it got baleeted, people on stamina rose said it was stupid as fuck and comparatively boring to other self fap videos.

>>7286151
Found a working video
http://www.slutload.com/video/frank-wolf-jerks-off-in-soccer-socks/EDAWaAFg5SL/

I should try posting it to /b/ and see what other anons dig up for shits and giggles.

>>7286120
What do I google to get this.

>>7286159
LMAO HOLY SHIT

>>7286159
GOD that was so awkward to watch
He looks nothing like his shooped self, to state the obvious

>>7286151
>>7286159
Ok wow. Thanks!

>>7286151
Holy. I always suspected he shooped his nose smaller but really it was his face shape. I wonder who made this video, probably just some webcam sex partner. Dude, you can get payed for this. Not buying his suicide tbh, he probably just backs off because this video was leaked.

>>7286159
Oh my god, why is he stopping every few seconds to type on the computer? That is actually annoying me. Lol

>>7286159
That was actually painfully boring. This poor kid has nothing doing for him. He definitely shoops his nose a lot smaller.

>>7286159
what the fuck did i just watch
that was so awkward

>>7286185
probably was in a webcam chat, never trust online people

>>7286285
Even online web chatting, that was awkward.

>>7285833
Any info on Venus dating history? I mean Margo has had different boyfriends and I doubt Venus isn't interested in romantic relationships.

>>7286307
I feel like Venus is too isolated at home by her home though and probably knows nothing about basic sex or biology. Who knows. I feel bad she's so close to her mom at the age she should be out trying to be independent and having friends. Nothing wrong with being close to your mom, but Margo is a child herself living through her daughters YouTube channel. It's seriously sad. I wonder what Venus will do when Margo dies?

>>7286307
id imagine picking a boyfriend would be hard for her.
having any inter-personal relationship ie. finding someone likeminded is going to be hard as it is
then having someone likeminded AND attractive to her is another
what kind of guys does she find attractive anyway? does she state?

>>7286316
>probably knows nothing about basic sex or biology
Nah, come on. She has internet access and 100% masturbates, everyone does.

>>7286323
No idea what her type is. She's still young. I didn't start dating until I was in my late teens (18 or 19) because I was focused on school and chilling with friends. I hope Venus escapes her mother's clammy claws soon.

>>7286330
This, I'm 23 and have only ever had one boyfriend
I'm not even uggo or fat, just average

>>7286327
Now I have this image of her trying to sneak online to chat with strangers about sex while her mom is sleeping. I picture them living in a one bedroom flat. Is this true? I have no idea how they live in London with new job.

>>7286323
I bet her type is Japanese.

>>7286337
I think she has her own room.

>>7286330
neither, first bf at 18, im 20 and still only had that 1 bf at 18 and virginal as fuck, so i understand how she can be a late bloomer but it didnt mean i wasnt attracted to guys and wouldnt state so

>>7286338
But not Mr. Yan who pretend to be japanese

>>7286340
Yeah, the one she is filming her stuff in with the Ikea bed.

>>7286342
VenusxMr.Yan my OTP
i ship it

>>7286342
He didn't take her serious and she sensed it. Wouldn't want someone who didn't take me serious, too. Also I guess she wouldn't go for someone that is too "manly" (like hairy and stuff) because she is way too delusional how love works.

>>7286341
It's normal for most people who aren't overly sexual to only have one relationship in their teens/ early twenties. Im very glad I waited because the teenager brain is retarded as fuck. First girlfriend at 18, then second girlfriend at 24. Getting married to said girlfriend next year. I'm turning 30.

>>7286327
Nope, not everyone.

>>7286335
Its the lolita/cosplay isnt it

major cockblock and/or way to isolate yourself

>>7286355
I know right. Nothing against people who masturbate, but I don't feel a need to.

>>7286353
Not especially...most people have at least one or two relationships (even without sex) in their teen years, just to try things.

>>7286356
You're an idiot. Met both my relationships through cosplay, including my soon to be wife. Cosplay has nothing to do with not finding a compatible companion.

>>7286357
But the body sometimes feels horny, do you just sit there and think of something else? I mean, most feel horny before their period for example.

>>7286360
yeah i wasnt too sure about the cosplay part either

lolita definitely

>>7285833
Kotakoti doesn't work a lot for a foreign model, at all.

>>7286363
I'll try to do what is supposed to be masterbating to said thing I'm horny to but it doesnt do shit.

>>7286356
Actually I dress normal outside of the house and don't go to cons. I just don't want to date anyone for the time being and I don't like sex.

>>7286368
Well i was considering this from the "I'm interested in trying sex/would be interested in a boyfried" perspective, apologies for the assumption.

>>7286367
To me its no more exciting/enticing/whatever feeling than rubbing the inside of my thigh slightly. I dont know whats wrong with me.

>>7286371
Nah it's coo, I was just trying to elaborate. The sex part was in case someone tried to pull the "no relationship? well then you're a slag who fucks randoms 24/7 hee hee" card.

>>7286356
Lolita gets me cute goth and/or fit men (they love little dolls they can care for)

>>7286364
I guess being in a jury of some kin is a shit job?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1Wvo_gtYNA

>>7286372
Nothing is wrong with you. Some people aren't really that interested in sex. I'm not. I just feel Bleh about it and would rather focus on getting better at sewing my costumes

>>7286378
she looks cute there

>>7286374
As if that were possible in most circumstances.

>>7286376
I hope so.
I just kind of wish I could get a great ass feeling from it y'know.

>>7286376
>>7286372
>>7286367
Are you magical beings? I really want to not have to bother with masturbation. How do you do this? Don't tell me it's genetic.

>>7286383
Different anon here but oh god you too? So I'm the the only one who has this issue out there. I just do what I'm "supposed to" but then everything just fades away after a while and no stupendous moment of yeah.

>>7286381
It's actually difficult but possible, anyway I'll not derail this thread more

>>7286386
Doesnt it make you feel good? It sounds to me better to feel emotion than be chronically apathetic if this is a good enough analogy

>>7286389
Yep! Like I know it takes a long time to get "warmed up" for females but there is literally no build up for me I just give up. The best feeling I can get is akin to a light shoulder massage. Is this is? Because I have shoulder massages way better than anything I tried...

Damn that's kawii

>>7286392
*is this it

too creepy accurate captcha:
labiday few

>>7286389
Target the clitoris ? I know some girls have to have sex several time before actually feeling something really deeply

I'm too lazy to masturbate myself (and if I start I tend to get distracted super easily). My boyfriend can get me off no problem, which is a lot more fun than riding solo. Unfortunately we're in a ldr though.

>>7286386
Not those anons, but I'm generally just meh about it. It could be genetic because from what I told my mum she is the same way. It's not that we're never horny, it's just that it doesn't take much to satisfy the need, and often there is no need to begin with.

>>7286397
I've been told by my mum*

>>7286399
uh, yeah masturbating is a completely different thing than being with your partner. They usually have different motivators so they feel pretty different. I can get off in like maybe 2 mins by myself because I just want to get off, not really enjoy the whole process, like I do with my SO.

>>7286398
If I stroke it properly it feels uncomfortable. I keep seeing those girls fingering themselves like that but to me that's just uncomfortable and I can't cum like that unless I'm rubbing against something, weird as it sounds.

>>7286404
that's not weird. If you're watching porn that's really really different. I can't ever attack the clit head on, I have to be off to the side.

And clitoral and vaginal orgasms are completely different. I cannot have vaginal orgasms, and that's actually more common than those girls who can. It's something like only 1/3 can actually have vaginal orgasms. I get nothing except the emotional satisfaction of pleasing my partner from sex. It's just never going to happen for me, and I'm fine with that.

>>7286398
Er yeah, trust me I've tried quite a few different things. I've pretty much given up and just think that I'm just like asexual or something.

Which is a bummer, because it's supposed to be a great mood lifter/natural stress relief.

>>7286410
wait wait, diff anon ( I'm >>7286407) sex doesn't lead to orgasm for a lot of girls.

And figuring out clitoral orgasms can be difficult, everyone is different. You can try a small vibrator and basically just kind of play around with it, go in at different angles and what not.

Now being asexual just means that you aren't physically attracted or interested in sex... that's different than not being able to enjoy or orgasm from sex. It depends on if you want to be physical with someone.

>>7286378
She looks really old here somehow.

>>7286410
I'm >>7286383 , you described my entire sex life and reason for disappointment.

With the explanation of >>7286418 I'm happier knowing I'm not asexual like I've been telling myself because, although I have no problem with others having it, I just didnt want to be.

Why though does a vibrator, something I wouldnt imagine would be a feeling naturally obtained from proper intercourse, work better?

Thank you CGL for bearing derailing with me, otherwise I'd still be lost.

>>7286419
I think its her motions and gestures, they're grown up and not childlike.

>>7286422
Remember, we're talking about two different types of orgasms.

Vaginal is achieved by penetration (usually g-spot stimulation)

and clitoral is outside.

now I didn't realize we were talking about just orgasming while having sex. It sounds like you're not going to be able to have vaginal orgasms. Not a big deal! When I brought up the vibrator I was thinking you were saying you couldn't get off by yourself, and speaking only about clitoral stimulation.

Now, you can use a small vibrator during sex to try for a clitoral orgasms while being penetrated.

Now, personally for me, having both feelings of clitoral stimulation and vaginal penetration is kind of distracting... but you can try with a vibrator to hit your clit from the side (since it sounds liek you don't like direct contact, I'm the same) while you're on top or maybe doggy style.

However, for me, the only way I can achieve clitoral orgasm while having sex is doing the spoony move (I'm sure there's another name, but the big spoon is doing the penetrating) and fingering myself at the same time and having my partner just slow it the fuck down until I orgasm. You could try this way too? I have to squeeze my legs together really hard and tense up all my muscle and hold my breath to get off, so being on my side helps.

Maybe this helps?

>>7286433
>I was thinking you were saying you couldn't get off by yourself, and speaking only about clitoral stimulation.
Sorry that was actually all I was initially speaking about.

Thanks for the info though! Will need to obtain partner first lol

>>7286439
Ah, then yes I would definitely look into buying a vibrator. (Not a dildo, dildos CAN vibrate, but they are made for insertion as well, so you're spending extra money on a part of the item you won't be using). Just go into a toy shop and explain, I know it's embaressing but they are used to it, I promise. Just say you want something for clitoral stimulation that's not super fancy and is a vibrator, you aren't interested in something for penetration. And just play with it by yourself. Literally took me about 2-3 hours the first time I bought one to get off! Don't give up haha. Try holding your breath and tensing your muscles maybe. it's actually good to get used to feeling something a little different by yourself and getting off with it, because it helps prepare you for the different sensations of being with another person.

>>7286392
Are you on any medications? I find that on lower doses of Prozac/Fluox I can't orgasm but do still get horny and feel pleasure and higher doses I don't even feel pleasure from touching myself.
Citalopram affects me slightly and I need the help of a vibrator to orgasm and diazepam makes me really not care about masturbating but I'm still able to get off.
This is a really fucking tmi post but meds can really fuck up your libido.

Wow I forgot about this thread haha

>>7286462
Alright then! Will make my trip to the adult store then. But I dunno, I must be becoming recluse or shy, because I'm more sooner willing to order online instead - is this a bad idea?

>>7291361
Nope, I dont take any medications and never had except for the birth control pills i took for about a year/year and a half? During the end of highschool, this was 3 yrs ago....

>>7286115
Someone also apparently posting pictures of his cremation urn, and I just re-found it

>>7282052
awful

>>7286397
>>7286404
>>7286410
>>7286422
There's nothing wrong with any of you for being sexomatic or sexless, different people just do different things and nothing is set in stone.
I thought I was a-sexual until I hit 19. Boom. Went on a spree for a year and then I just stopped being interested again. It might come back, I'm not losing sleep over it.
Bodies are weird.

I'll bet Venus gets Catholic-style 'sex is bad' guilt and shame when she grows up, but Dakota should be better adjusted from marketing herself as a sex doll and watching her sister be an edgy kid.
I can't believe I just said Dakota could be well adjusted.

>all these seagulls who don't feel compulsed to masturbate

I've been masturbating since before I was six years old. And always to really weird shit.

>>7291822

your childhood must have been a fucking mess

>>7291822

Are you me anon? I used to clench my vulva in class when I was little before I knew anything about sex. Also, I discovered my dad's printed out bondage porn when I was 7 or 8. I have a feeling it's fucked me over for life since.

>>7291822
>>7291864
shit guys, I don't even know what to say
...is being aroused at that age even normal?

>>7291863
Ha I actually had a really good childhood.

>>7291864
I'm more of a hereditarian so I think it's mostly genetic

>>7291866
It's actually fairly common

http://www.chmed.com/care-advisor/child-development/masturbation/
http://www.med.umich.edu/yourchild/topics/masturb.htm
http://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/gradeschool/puberty/Pages/Masturbation.aspx
http://www.childrenshealthnetwork.org/CRS/CRS/pa_bmasturb_hhg.htm

There is even footage of 12-month old fetuses stroking their genitals and having orgasmal muscle contractions afterwards.

>>7291866
Yep. Completely. Babies masturbate. It's as normal as enjoying the taste of food.

>>7283443
I'm sorry but pastel goth has music associated with it. Grimes, crystal castles, purity ring etc.

>>7291872

Ah. I've always wondered if my dad's preference for bondage was passed down to me tbh, or if I just developed it after that point.

>>7291872
>>7291876
....fuck!

>>7291866
Yes, "sexual" activity has a sort of peak around 5 or 6 and then calms down again until 11 or 12.
But still, sexual arousal at any age is normal - there's even been recordings of in-utero masturbation.
>>7291822
I didn't figure it out till I was like 10, but I'd always play house with my friends and there was lots of spanking involved. I would get all aroused and not know what to do, fucking weird. That one might not actually be normal.
>>7286378
she actually looks really cute here. Maybe not doll-like, but just adorable.

>>7286105
its only "she was just a normal teen girl on the web" or whatever that gets the attention, christian parents watching fox news dont wanna see his gay porn shit

>>7291822
>>7291863
>>7291866
>learned how when I was in k-4
>kept doing it whenever I wanted because I didn't know what I was doing/it felt good
>tried to teach my sister who was 3 years older than me (sounds like some lolicon doujinshi shit)
>kept doing it in class, teachers thought I had a rash so I got to stay home for a few days, that's when I learned I shouldn't do it around other people lol
>had a very normal childhood, usually top 5 academically in class
>normal adulthood with a pretty vanilla sex life

>>7291888
Nature vs. Nurture is always a really interesting debate. The thought of heritable fetishes seems pretty cool. If other personality traits/mental disorders are heritable, it makes sense for parts of sexuality to be as well.

>>7291894
sorry, I was always told you start around when you hit two digits, and I started then myself so it's still a bit new to me

>>7291900
nah it's normal, I admit 3-4 is the earliest I've heard anyone start but it happens

>>7282303
xiuxiu?
link?

>>7282861
hi, marry me

>>7291603
>I'll bet Venus gets Catholic-style 'sex is bad' guilt and shame when she grows up
Judging from the fact that Margaret is Margaret, Venus having commented on having big boobs and taken sorta sexy photos before, I think she gets more of a subtle "You're a filthy whore if you do such and such" shaming from her mom.

>>7291911
google.com

>>7282052
I want to make her my doll ~

> tfw no new shows on food network
> tfw not brideday on TLC
> oh there's that 'living doll' episode!
> mall goth teens getting misty-eyed over venus

nope. turned that shit off.

>>7291864
>>7291822
What the actual fuck

It's dumb

>>7282268
what kinda surgery are you interested in? i'm thinking of getting some plastic work done so i'm very curious to hear about yours (or anybody elses) experiences or intents

>>7282861
^^^^^ the living doll trend in a nutshell

>>7291574
this is tacky as shit
I hope it's staged, this looks like something a teenager *would* think was a great idea.

>>7291574
I begin to wonder if he really is dead after all...

would anyone mind linking me to a few "dolly'' tumblrs? I just need a place to get started

I think the whole thing is dumb and over-hyped, but it's no where near as disturbing as the men who wear rubber suits and masks while calling themselves "living dolls".

>My initial reaction

I know its 2014 and we should all be accepting sjwtumblrhard, but I had a serious case of uncanny valley and said nope to it all.

>>7291822

>dad rubs moms boobs from under her underwear
>four year old me stares them dead on
>starts watching porn on HBO and the internet

My first masturbation experience was a 15 though, with a vibrating back massager. I did what the girls did in the vids and bam, something felt weird but pleasant... Depends on the person, I suppose. My sister is sexually active and doesn't enjoy sex that much if at all.

Probably the biggest drawback is that I most likely have really high expectations when it comes to having sex. Otherwise, it's just a way to release energy.

>>7293371
I tried to masturbate when I was watching 'but I'm a cheerleader' at the tender age of 14 but didn't want my hands to get sticky so I decided the best idea would be to tear off a piece of (clean and new in box)plastic bag.

Needless to say I felt retarded and after 10 minutes of not feeling like much I stopped and didn't try again till I was 18.

>>7293368
What got me was how badly painted the masks were. Not in terms of the tackiness of the make-up itself but a lot of the lines weren't clean and the eyes were painted terribly. It looked like a mess.
Also that the fem skins didn't cover their arms. I know hadatai or whatever the kigurumi guys wear are made of fabric and thus less real looking and probably missing a fetish element that many of those men go for (especially considering those vaginas and nipples) but at least the entire body is the same texture. If the could at least figure out how to have the suits more full body without restricting movement majorly and paint the masks better, I'd maybe find it a bit less odd. They seem to take so much pride in their masking but it looks so sloppy. I'm not even going to mention how bad some of those wigs were.
I don't even mind the uncanny valley-ness of it, I sometimes head over to /jp/ to look at the kigurumi threads because I find them really interesting and I can appreciate and nice mask with a good wig and costume. They just really need to fix how sloppy some of it all looks.

>>7293401
Yes, exactly! The whole time I was watching and reading about this, I couldn't help wondering why couldn't they use make up. At least drag queens try to be aesthetically pleasing. It also made me feel sad that these men considered this standard of beauty when it's very sloppy.

>>7291866
It's pretty common. Lots of young kids masturbate without really knowing what it is. I did to, I remember being horrified when we had sex ed in 6th and realizing why I felt so nice when I did certain things. I was mortified.

On Francis:
>stupid fucking moron who posts shooped selfies all the time
>fame gets to his head
>starts wanking under the same name
>oh shit i still have a life off the internet
>oh shit people irl will google my name
>oh god oh man
>mom i dun goofed
>only way to get away from it is to change name and identity
>lets pretend i killed myself so people don't go looking for me so i can have a decent life offline
>biggest complaint is people using his name for popularity
>no one's going to 'discuss anything'
>no family member ever mentioned the funeral
>'no he was really bullied he had cutting scars to prove it :('

>>7293406
Oh lord do I know that feel.

>mfw in 5th grade I realized that thing I had been doing since I was in preschool is called masturbating

I thought I was just tickling myself or something. Then I went through a short period where I was scared that it was wrong and dirty.

Then I was given my own computer with internet and proceeded to not give a fuck.

>>7293410
This is what I'm sure happened.
This whole "death" sounds fishy as fuck.

>>7293502
I bet you my lolita wardrobe that he isn't dead.
He used to selfpost and samefag
on 4chan too.
He wasn't ugly without shoop but he began to fake more and more (kawaii uke desu persona, shooping like hell,...)

>>7291866
Is not being aroused at that age even normal? Kids are also human.
I've been masturbating (with knowledge that it is sexual) and drawing sex comics since I was 4.5. Not trolling. (i am gril)

>>7291574
He was online two days ago on his modelmayhem tho.

>>7291822
When I was young, in public pools, there are places where jets of water came out underwater (don't know how to describe it) and i would stand close to it and let it massage me down there.

>>7293380
I don't even remember the first time I tried to masturbate, probably sometime in sixth or seventh grade, and I drew a comic of some kid sucking a dick when I was in 4th, but I've never really gotten anything out of it. I'm turning twenty this year, and I've never had an orgasm (virgin, but still). I haven't shlicked it in probably close to a year at this point, because I just don't get the urge anymore. Even watching porn, it's just kind of, "whatever," to me. I don't have any kind of sex drive.

>>7283443
ha
ha
HAHAHAHAHAHHA look at this faggot
>you're not REAL goths! you don't even LISTEN to the music!

Listen here, noob, just because it has "goth" in its name does not mean it "gothic". I'm not sure you're familiarized with fashion, but we have this thing of appropriating other styles and creating new things we them. Or do you think anyone expects a rich girl wearing punk-inspired clothing to be an actual punk?

I mean, of course someone does. Those are the retards who point and yell "WANNABE! NOT REAL (x)!". Like you.

>>7293802
omg me too

I think it sums up the female brain in an amusing way

>>7293761
Well, I would say yes, many people are and many people aren't.
I haven't masturbated until I was something like... 12 for example, around the same age when your parents give you 'the talk'.
I also physically matured later than other girls, so there's that too.

>>7293802
>>7294300
All this time I thought I was a huge weirdo, I love you guys.

>>7293802
>>7294300
>>7294552
I used to do that too! I began to use the shower head when my parents stopped bringing me to the pool...

>>7293406
I remember being pretty naive in grade 1, and there was this dude in grade 6 that would tell me to rub his penis (from outside his pants). He was my idol or something so I would do it because I didn't have the concept of 'sex' until around grade 4. I wonder if he actually knew what he was doing or...?

>>7294591
Probably, most boys know about it by the time they're 8 or less sooo...

Since we're already talking about sex things...
...Am I gay for liking lesbian porn and naked chicks in porn in general?
I've never been attracted to a woman and if one were to hit on me I'd be really uncomfortable, but in porn I just find men boring honestly. They always act the same and look the same, if their heads (on their shoulders, I mean) are ever shown that is.
It's not that I don't like gay people, it's just that I have a boyfriend I love and REALLY wouldn't want to be a lesbian or bi. Sorry if it's a stupid question.

>>7294662
There are plenty of straight dudes who get aroused by gay porn (not that they'd ever admit it) so I don't see a problem.

>>7294662
I don't think so. A lot of women like lesbian porn because it's all about pleasing the woman, in straight porn the emphasis is on pleasing the man and the woman is sometimes treated like shit. Plus, if you feel uncomfortable with being with a woman I'm pretty sure it's a sign that you aren't bi or gay.

>>7294662
Hey, I'm straight as a metal pole and Ushijima Iiniku gets me all bohered. It's totally fine, a lot of straight girls 'explore' irl too for that same question you asked.

>>7294662
Not at all, female bodies are more aesthetically pleasing to me than male ones and I'm straight.

>>7293380
It's okay anon, I did something eerily similar when I was just a bit younger.

Back then it was really hard to see actually useful information about sex uality in the media, rather than just hardcore hetero penetration. I'm glad things have been changed.

>>7294662
>>7294689
>>7294695
>>7294701
>>7294736
>still straight

i've got some bad news for you

>>7296344
Yeah, I used to say this kind of shit a few years ago. Guess what.

But to their credit, we're socially conditioned to see female bodies as more ornamental. Stuff to take pleasure in looking at. So hey, they could be straight as ramrods

>>7294662
No one is completely gay or completely straight.

>>7296354

Girls are wonderful to look at but when it comes to dating I'm 100% straight. I'd never considering dating a girl, but I do think they're physically attractive.

>>7297179

To me, being gay means you want everything to do with the same sex. You want to date them and love them and all that good stuff. Just thinking girls are hot when you're a girl seems more like you just enjoy looking at attractive people.

Guys would probably be more attractive if they shaved and wore makeup.

>>7297184
Depends on the person though, at some face shapes nothing helps and is better to be hidden under facial hair.

>>7297182
This.
I find girls really attractive and could probably be cuddle/kiss buddies with a girl, but lesbian sex terrifies me. Also, no cute girl will ever like me.

>>7297253
how
how can lesbian sex terrify you. Just rub against each other and touch each other. I mean, most women don't get off of from vaginal penetration anyway, and if you do, that's what vibes and dildos are for. I mean, porn lesbian sex is not real, we don't do it like that (and we certainly cut our damn nails).

>>7282792

>>7297438
Diff anon here, and I can safely say lesbian sex terrifies me.
But that's because I've never been that far with a woman and I'm embarrassed about it. It's easy enough saying 'oh you have a vagina too, you'll know what to do!' but one day I'm going to try and it's going to be awful for both of us.

>>7293790
Well...

>>7296344
>being this dense
Are you ten? This is a 18+ website.

>>7296354
Yeah, but you aren't everyone else.
When people say they are straight, they are most likely talking out of experience as they have never been attracted to the same sex and/or have experimented and didn't find it appealing.
Also what >>7296354 said.

>>7298716
whoops meant >>7296384

>>7291361
I'm a different anon but I have the same problem as her and I've always doubted my meds as the reason. I'm pretty confirmed now. I have a really low dose so I get horny and feel pleasure and I can come really close to orgasm but I never actually do orgasm and it's so fucking frustrating it makes me want to bash my head against a wall.
I'm gonna talk to my doc about dropping my meds entirely. Sage for absolutely off topic.