/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Automatic Honey Kuma's Curse Ring new with tags for $30 shipped

I'm absolutely obsessed with Meta's perfume bottle dress in black. It's so old though.. is there even a chance of getting it anymore?

Wtb: chocolate themed broach, necklace or rosette.
Black or cream cutsew that fit a 93 cm bust.
Sweet cream house high waist jsk in pink ( priority) ivory or mint.

omekashi lucky pack jsk in black.

Black lace top otk and crew socks. Show me what you got /cgl

>>7268674
There was a black one on mbok but it didn't have the removeable bows.

WTB: Either one of these Dear Celine blouses in black and white; I think they were called something like Bell Sleeved Lace Blouse I and II. Or something in a similar style (i.e. princessy-looking, bell sleeves, chiffon)

WTB: Either one of these Dear Celine blouses in black and white; I think they were called something like Bell Sleeved Lace Blouse I and II. Or something in a similar style (i.e. princessy-looking, bell sleeves, chiffon)

Would anyone be interested in a Oo Jia twinkle journey JSK in navy?

Bust 34, waist 27, could go an inch more easy. Great length, hits my knees and I'm 5'7

Comes with waist ties, one large and one small bow for the front of the dress. No flaws, I just bought the real one and am looking to sell the old one

$90 + shipping OBO

>>7268674
>perfume bottle
>so old

It's 3 years old. That's not old at all for a lolita dress.

Someone please sell me the Juliette blouse in beige or black. Asked last thread, but sadly no offers.

How does /cgl/ view replica dresses? I'm not knowledgeable about lolita, but I offered to fund my little sister's first dress. I don't mind spending the money for name brand, but she's fallen in love with a "replica" dress, and I wanted to see how the community tends to feel about seeing replicas at conventions.

>>7268921
This would go better in the lolita general but if that's what she wants, that's what she wants. I don't judge people for wearing replicas, just if they go on and on about how the quality is the same or better than the original. A lot of people get steamed because it's art theft in some cases, and just unethical in the rest, but I really don't care about that. I steal whatever I can get away with anyways.

Feeler. Open to offers, I'd prefer to trade, though.
Email is in the field.

Alice and the pirates circus print vest in pink. I know kitty carousel has it but 130 is way too much for this vest.

>>7268921
Replicas should all be burnt. That is the typical seagull stance, as well as simply the correct stance. I tried to link a really good article explaining why, but no matter what I do, 4chan seems to think it's spam, so just good fyeahlolita replicas.

As for wearing it to cons, I would strongly, strongly, STRONGLY advise against that.

>>7268921
Replicas should all be burnt. That is the typical seagull stance, as well as simply the correct stance. I tried to link a really good article explaining why, but no matter what I do, 4chan seems to think it's spam, so just google fyeahlolita replicas.

As for wearing it to cons, I would strongly, strongly, STRONGLY advise against that.

>>7268994

>Replicas should all be burnt

pretty much.

>>7268994

Alright, thanks for the response and article. To avoid completely derailing this thread, I'll say case closed and encourage her to look elsewhere (like this BST thread)

>>7268971
Do you mean 130USD? That sounds very reasonable to me. It's not exactly an easy find and that's a good amount less than retail. You're going to have a hard time getting it if you consider that "way too much", especially in a WTB given that you're trying to appeal to people who aren't actively out to sell it.

>>7268971
I've seen it recently for way less. Let me see if it's still up and link you.

>>7269015
Really!? Thank you so much! I've been on the hunt since closetchild had it up

I want to sell a few taobao pieces, but I'm not sure how much to price them? I was thinking under the original amount, but does it depend on how much under the amount if the dress/skirt is still available?

>>7269151
if the item is still available, price it at retail exactly from the shop. This is going to save your buyers SS and some shipping fees, so it will turn out cheaper ordering from you. This is obvously if the item is brand new. If it's used, take off about 5% I'd say.

If it's an item that is in high demand (JellyFish dress for example) and is sold out everywhere and got a lot of hype, you can auction it for the highest paying seller.

If it's an item that is out of stock but not super desirable or from an unknown shop, stick to my first paragraph for pricing.

Make sure you take nice pictures. I only have success with no name taobao sales if I can show how it looks with a brand piece (like if it's a blouse or something) on a dummy with nice lighting.

Hope that helps.

>>7269210
It does a lot, thanks!
Is there a better source than lolibrary for a Dear Celine dress? I looked on there but didn't find the dress and I don't remember the name of it anymore.

>>7269151
I'd say more like 15% under retail unless it's something in high demand

Though it also depends on the condition and how used it is

>>7269223
I have either only worn the item once or not at all.

>>7269235
Then 10% should be fine if you don't want to wait a long while for them to go

WTT my Starry Night Angel navy L size JSK and all matching accessories for the Jellyfish long navy L size JSK and matching accessories.

MM JSK sold!
IW JSK sold!
Now with some small price reductions. Email in the field!

Tales of the Wood Skirt in off white, Crown Label; Metamorphose Temps de Fille 2011
$110 now $100 shipped in the USA
8/10 Great condition.

Bambi Overknee Socks in beigexpink, by Innocent World
$25 now $22 shipped in the USA
$20 now $18 with another item
NWOT.

Unknown IW socks
$25 now $22 shipped in the USA
$20 now $18 with another item
NWOT.

Rose Frill Grosgrain Head Bow in ivory, by Alice and the Pirates
$35 shipped in the USA
Excellent condition, please note that the ends of the ribbon aren't finished. I received it like this.

>>7268921
I own both replicas and brand

They're really not a big deal

>>7268994
I've worn replicas to cons its really not that big of a deal. I don't support them anymore but no one has ever given me shit for them. Just don't lie about it being replica

OP if you made that image it is lovely and made me laugh. If you didn't make it oh well thank you for posting it anyway.

(Feeler?) WTS:
- Chess Story's Starry Night Angel JSK SET with Headbow and accessories (Lavender Size L) (Used: only worn twice)
- Dear Celine's Misty Morning JSK (Brown, fits a bust:92 and waist:77cm or higher) SET with Capulet and Head Cap

Partial/Trades for:
- Any offbrand (Taobao or anyone) Black or White Long Sleeved Blouse in Cotton or Chiffon
- AATP, BTSSB or AP Lucky Pack 2014 (I'm sad I missed on it)
- GLW Rhapsody in Dark Chocolate
- GLW Babydoll Wig in Black or Dark Brown
- Any set from any brand/offbrand
- peignoir in pink, white or black
- poncho or short coat in white, black, or pink

I wanna get em before January 9th if possible, it's all good anyway.

>>7268921
Don't buy a replica. They're art thievery, and the quality is usually shit. Just buy an original design somewhere else.

>>7269540
>not a big deal
It actually is a big deal. They hurt the brands who make those designs and if you try to tell me otherwise then you, my friend, are in a fuck ton of denial or just plain ignorant. Do some research and educate yourself before saying things like that.
>>7269931
You mean no one gives people shit to their face.

>>7268921
a lot of people who buy replicas end up regretting it after seeing the authentic one in real life. they end up selling the replica and saving+waiting for the real one to turn up. or they end up buying some other dress that isn't a replica with the money from selling their old replica. i've never told someone off IRL for wearing a replica, i don't tell anybody else how i feel. but imo replica wearers give the impression of a person who doesn't care about the effort the original maker invested in creating a dress that is loved by many. this is particularly sensitive in lolita, since the following is small in comparison to mainstream labels, i feel it's extra important to not betray the original makers. overall, it's a sensitive topic.

since it is her first dress, it may be wiser to spend less than $200 on it (even if it's not her "dream dress") - i used to think my dream dress was something, but after a few months of buying various types of dresses i struck that dress off the list knowing it doesn't suit my body type anyway.

>>7270107
I literally give no fucks if people are mad and bitch behind my back about a replica

I don't support replica dresses any longer, had two dresses and selling my last one. Do I regret buying them? hell no. they were my intro into lolita and I had a lot of fun in them.

I get that you're mad about replicas and that's fine it's not ethical but if people want to buy them, you're not going to change their minds bitching about it here

>still beating this dead horse

>>7270130
>I get that you're mad about replicas and that's fine it's not ethical but if people want to buy them, you're not going to change their minds bitching about it here
You think I'm not aware of that? Most of the time /cgl/ bitches about things, they're aware it's not going to change people's minds, it's a means to vent. That being said, however, sometimes if you give facts that people were unaware of, you can change their minds. That wasn't what I was going for, though.

Come on, not in the BST thread. OP isn't asking anymore, she isn't getting a replica. Put your pitchforks down and stop shitting up the thread.

>>7268921
When I see a girl in a replica at a convention, I turn the other way. I have no desire to talk to someone who either A) Isn't all that in to the fashion and is just cosplaying lolita for a day, or B) Has no morals.

>>7270188
its like spotting someone with a fake Chanel or Louis Vuitton purse.... its very laughable and embarrassing

>>7270140
Seriously. Why have like the last 5 BSTs devolved into bitchfests? They were relatively okay before. I mean, there'd be rude comments but rarely full-on thread derailments.

>>7270214
Probably janitors away for the holiday. Seriously though, this bullshit has to stop, BST is the one good thread we have.

>>7270107
Buying a replica of something that has long since sold out does nothing to hurt brands. If you mean it hurts the resale value of secondhand sellers, then maybe, but otherwise you are wrong.

I don't buy replicas of anything that is still available. I'm not in denial, replicas are a matter of opinion and personal belief.

>>7270371
Because the sweat and time spent in coming up with the design are negligible right? Who cares who made your favourite print in the first place? They have no feelings!

>>7270437
you have your beliefs, i have mine

>>7270451
It actually isn't a matter of belief. Your opinion is simply wrong. Whatever, though, this debate needs to ed before the thread gets too derailed.

>>7270576
Nah, it is a mater of belief.

Lots of people have no problem with torrenting music and movies

Lots of people have no problem with jaywalking, or drinking when theyre not of age

While legally wrong, their personal choice is their personal choice. There's no right and wrong as far as morality is concerned in those respects

Youre never gonna convince anyone to change their mind and neither am I, so there really is no point.

>>7270576
>your opinion is wrong because it's different from mine
replicas of sold out items can't hurt the sales of that item. that's not wrong, it's easy to understand. you're just acting like a cunt because someone made a fair point about replicas not hurting brand sales if the item was sold out.

>>7270584
I'm not the anon you are replying to. You don't have to change your mind, but it's not a "belief" that's original makers put effort into their designs. It's a fact. Just sayin.

>>7270593
Yea, I definitely understand that. I was referring to her belief that what I & others do is wrong

>>7270584
First off, it's not really comparable to torrenting when you scratch the surface. Not that I condone illegal downloading, but the people distributing are usually not making money off of it. It would be more accurate to compare it to buying illegal bootleg DVDs.

>Lots of people have no problem with jaywalking, or drinking when theyre not of age
That comparison is so beyond retarded it doesn't even deserve a proper rebuttal, but I'll give it to you anyway. First of all, jaywalking is generally a victimless crime. Underage drinking isn't and is something that should be dealt with, but it's still not comparable to what we're discussing. You're kind of grasping at straws here. Also, what the hell kind of defense is that? If someone rapes or kills someone, is "well some people jaywalk" a valid defense? Absolutely not.

>>7270585
I feel like the following points are common sense and shouldn't need to be pointed out, but whatever, I'll bite.

What if the brand is considering rereleasing that print or ends up doing so? There are tons of lolitas who won't buy rereleases of previously sold out prints because there is already a replica, even if they can fit into them and afford them.

Also, even when replicas were only of sold out dresses, brands were still speaking out against them. If you were an artist and someone was stealing your work without giving you any credit or fraction of the profit, would you be okay with it just because you yourself weren't selling it yourself? Even if the answer is yes for you, the vast majority of artists would say otherwise. Also, imagine that the answer is no and you make that clear to the companies selling your stolen art and the community buying them, but no fucks are given on their part. It shows a disgusting lack of respect for the brands.

That's the last I'm going to say about the issue here. If you want to continue the debate then make a new thread.

>>7270672
It is comparable to torrenting.

Fair enough about the other two points, I was mostly trying to illustrate that people do things that are considered wrong all the time.

Also, comparing rape and murder to buying a sold out replica dress is pretty fucking retarded in and of itself, don't you think? :)

WTB a new BST thread.

>>7270687
It's only comparable to torrenting in the sense that it's art theft. Like I said, a better comparison is buying illegal bootlegs. Those who torrent are getting it for free, whereas with a bootleg you're paying for it, just like with a replica.

>Also, comparing rape and murder to buying a sold out replica dress is pretty fucking retarded in and of itself, don't you think? :)
I wasn't comparing them, I was using two extreme examples to illustrate the point that people committing petty crimes is in no way any sort of justification to commit another crime.

>>7270698
Forgive me, I just get so annoyed by people who can't see the wrong in replicas. I'll shut up and stop contributing to thread derailment now even if more people reply.

>>7270698
I'll... make a new one...

>>7270698
lol'd

>>7270702
You know what, whatever. Like I said, I'll do my thing, you do yours. I don't give a shit what other people do.

My justification is that I believe there;s nothing wrong with buying replicas of things that are sold out. That's all.

>>7270704
anti-replica-tards are just as bad as the pro-replica-tards ones jesus fuck

>>7270715
>My justification is that I believe there;s nothing wrong with buying replicas of things that are sold out. That's all.
>completely ignoring the points made in that post because reasons
Not that anon, but this is why I hate people who wear knock-offs

>>7270717
At least we don't support art theft and make excuses about it.

>>7270721
I shouldn't have to explain myself or give excuses to people on 4chan for the way I choose to spend my money. Different people have different beliefs. I don't judge anyone for feeling any kind of way about replicas, even if you say that you wouldn't approach someone wearing one. That's your decision

>>7270730
No one would care if you weren't supporting illegal counterfeits and trying to act like it was no big deal. I really don't care that much if you buy them, just admit it's unethical.

>>7270792
That's the thing, the ethics of doing it are subjective. You find it wrong, I don't, and that is a difference of opinion

>>7269462
>Rose Frill Grosgrain Head Bow in ivory, by Alice and the Pirates

emailed you

>>7270715
>My justification is that I believe there;s nothing wrong with buying replicas of things that are sold out. That's all.

Here, ill help you.

1. Google images search: fantastic dolly
2. Look at how the first result is the stock photo of the REPLICA
3. As more replicas are purchased, the replica companies become more 'successful'
4.DDC comes out, sells out immediately
5. AP decides they will do a pre-order, where pretty much ANYONE can get it
6. Replica whores wait for the replica even though they were perfectly capable of getting the original.

The success of a replicated sold out item propmpted the success of the entire company. I'm aware that the two examples are from different companies, but they are both very successful. Jia makes more replicas, if anything. She just never types out the name of the dress.

There you go.

>>7270938
I don't wear sweet but okay

I don't know what you are trying to accomplish here. I was basically trying to say that my justification is based on personal opinion & personal belief

I'm gonna just continue feeling the way I do, and you can continue feeling the way you do, and surely we can coexist on this planet.

>>7270947
>>7270938
>>7270850
>>7270792
>>7270730
>>7270725
>>7270721
>>7270715

OI.

>>7270961

please and thank you

>>7270947
Not wearing sweet has has nothing to do with the points being made. Nothing.

>>7270966
My apologies, but too late now and there's already a new BST thread, so...
>>7270850
If you don't find stealing an artist's designs against their wishes wrong, then you really need to reevaluate your morals. This is not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact. Do what you want, I'm not telling you otherwise, just please stop living in your world of denial. For example, I used to illegally download things all the time when I was a teenager, but never did I not acknowledge it was wrong. I never tried to make up excuses and ignore all the evidence and reasoning as to why it was unethical. Like I said, I don't care if you buy replicas, you can have an entire wardrobe full of them for all I care, I just can't see how you can't just get it through your head why it's unethical. How do you not consider there to be anything morally wrong with stealing someone else's art and ignoring their wishes for you to stop? As an artist, my jimmies can't help but be rustled.
>>7270983
In case you haven't noticed, she doesn't have any valid counters to any arguments that have been presented to her other than "lol it's not wrong because I don't think it is!". Typical pro-replica mentality.

Is it okay if I just post to a facebook album of stuff I'm trying to sell?

>>7271088
Post here >>7270722 instead.
This thread will do you no good.

Stop shit posting about replica's in this thread!
This is a sales thread, not a fucking debate thread.

>>7270947
>my justification is based on personal opinion & personal belief
So if my belief is that milanoo is the best rori company evar and I manage to convince all the rori noobs on the internet to buy from milanoo, I'm totally justified because beliefs and opinions right. I mean I FEEL like there's nothing wrong with asking noobs to buy such cheap and fantastic rori and it's my opinion so nobody should stop me!
What if I believed in child molestation or in scamming people? My belief would be that children deserve it or something. Or that people are dumb to send money to a stranger on the internet. Lol , your logic

I spent at least four minutes making the OP image with a trackpad and you assholes destroyed the thread

>>7271121
A new one was already made, so by this point it doesn't matter. I was annoyed about it, too, but now there's no point.
>>7271168
I will save the image and use it for future sales threads if I end up being OP, which I often am. Your legacy will live on.

>>7268921
the fact there's under 500 of said brand dress in existence and you want the print to be shared between 10s of thousands well...
I understand rarity vs saturation. But if you could get your favorite print at the craft store too would you not buy it just because its common or do you still enjoy the print to buy reams of it and make bedroom curtains of it etc?

>>7270007
what are you willing to let go for for the SNA set?

Yaaaaa I hate replicas tooooo.

Booo brando whore bitches.

Art theift is bad m'kay

Yaaaa but I gotta buy my cheap fake shit m'Kay.

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

>>7271630
Allo anon! Im thinking for like $140 shipped to te US? I can definitely accommodate the price if that's way too much because I pretty much forgot how much I got it for

>>7268921
why don't you just buy her the original? it would literally be the same thing but higher quality.

ALL YALL NIGGA NEED TO CAAAAALLLM THE FUCK DOWN.
HOLY SHIT.
YOU GUYS ARE LIKE WAR SIRENS GOING OFF LIKE OTS FUCKING PEARL HARBOR.
LIKE
YALL NUGGAS ARE CRAY
ITS A DRESS
ITS NOT YOUR MOM
ITS NOT YOUR HOUSE
ITS NOT MOTHERFUCKING JESUS
IT A DRESS
LIKE YALL ARE FCKING CRAZY

>>7271908
For some reason when I read this post I just imagined a bunch of ratchet lolituhs beating each other up at a gas station or something
basically, the lolified sharkeisha.
"ALL THESE YEARS AND I CATCH YOU WEARING A REPLICA?!? I THOUGHT YOU WAS MAH NIGGA! *kicks friend to the ground*"

WTB: Rabbit ear headpiece in white (pic-related). Email in field

WTB: R-series' Dear Friends JSK in blue.

>>7268921
I think that a lot of people her didn't read "little sister", how old is she? Is she old enough to "stay clean" with brand or is she still a kid and it is better to give her for the time a replica? It would be a wast to give a kid brand dresses, because she might ruin it.

WTB : Musical Notes (L024))from BL

In grey or black

Jellyfish long jsk in navy size L please I beg you

>>7275578

Where you from? I have the 'grey' which is actually a pale lavender-ish colour.

Selling or Trading NWT Innocent World's Isabel OP - long for 210 shipped anywhere in the USA.

Willing to trade/partial trade for AP/BTSSB, Lockshop wigs, heart bags, and definitely willing to take offers.

>>7272035
not AP, but Closettina has one at her storenvy.

>>7276277
from Uruguay, if you can take photos better :)

>made clear to post things in new BST
>people still using this one