/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

did someone say "Finland"?

Did someone say "Denmark"?

Did someone mentioned "Sweden"?

Did someone say "Norway"?

>>7177021
Oh no not Elffi again! There is so many other fantastic cosplayer in Finland!

Slightly off topic, but how would one do to get hold on a purikura machine? It's for a convention. If I remember correctly the last Uppcon had one, does anyone know if it's still in Sweden?

Is anyone here going to Kultcon? I live in Småland so it would be nice to go but it just seems kinda.. bad somehow.

>>7177150
I think confusion had one, but I'm not sure

>>7177169
I am, I will be working

>>7177141

Yes, there are. Elffi isn't even one of the most impressive cosplayers in Finland nowadays, he just has what it takes to sell himself. Don't take it as an insult, Elffi fans, I just think that's how it is.

More great Finnish cosplayers, just to keep this thread alive (and to avoid the inevitable flood of Swedish invading the thread again)

>>7177393

Whoops, forgot pic.

>>7176983
Denmark here, thinning out the inevitable swedish.
Not sure what you want from us though, tales? Desucon? I have a tale from Desucon 2013 in Norway.
Was cosplaying Juliet from Lollipop Chainsaw (I'm a guy btw). Had done my very best to look like a girl, makeup, full body shave n stuff. There were some famous norwegian youtubers there, and I saw an interview of them after the con, where they were asked about something they liked from the con, and they mentioned me, and how I made them confused, very confused.
I thought it was funny, I'll go away now.

Lemme tell you about this finnish gurl named Plasticgay

she's hella awesome

More awesome Finns coming right through, take a pic of Lirlys

>>7177141
Name 5 other "fantastic" Finnish cosplayers that anyone outside of Finland would have heard of, because let me tell you I know zero other "fantastic" cosplayers from Finland besides Elffi.

I saw the Finnish WCS group for 2013...I stalked their page, and I was not impressed. They are literally the only other Finnish cosplayers I have come across.

Elffi is the one cosplay export you guys have. Soz that you are so jelly of him and his fame.

>>7178523
>>7178524
>>7178532
Not impressed.

>>7178600
Well none of our cosplayers are really that hungry for fame, I guess Lirlys is probably the next board famous one besides Elffi. I think it has to also do with the fact that a lot think Elffi as a manwhore so nobody wants the same reputation. Finns, always saying how great we are but nobody still wants internet fame.

Well, at least we won something in ECC this year. Can't really say she could be considered famous because of that.

Finns tend to keep their shit out of the international scene as much as possible so that may be why you haven't heard of any other finns but I'm pretty sure you have run into them while browsing tumblr/deviantart/cosplay.com/worldcosplay/etc :)

Ps. Not everyone wants to be famous cosplayer, so no reason for people to be jelly of him. And those who are, well, that's a different story.

I like Umi and her cosplays :3

>>7178613
>>7178610
I understand not everyone wants to be a famous cosplayer. But it's pretty obviously people are jealous of Elffi, or they won't keep posting about him on here. I keep seeing vendetta-posts, snarky little comments etc.

If no one else other Finns WANT to be famous than everyone can move on with their lives and stop posting about how much of a "manwhore" he is, or that his costumes "are shitty" and other generic bullshit I see all the time about him on here. He honestly doesn't even do that much except go to the occasional convention and turn up at WCS a lot to help out.

Can we talk about Finnish WCS team 2013? Worst team what Finland has sent! They didn't talk English and they acted like spoiled brats whole week in Japan. And one of them didn't celebrate in WCS party, because "she was still In the Character". And they have literally said, that they will come back to WCS! I think that judges are not going to send those two back because they did shitty representation in WCS 2013.

>>7178622
Bumping for more umi

>>7178854
I actually feel sorry for the two. They got this awesome chance to go abroad, make friends and have fun (because if you take WCS as a srs competition you are doing something wrong) and then they just seemed to hate everything that is Japan and the people there.

>>7177268
Confusion had one, I suggest you mail them and ask about it. But then again it's possible it belonged to VKM because their logo was stamped in the pictures you recieved.

>>7178854
I don't think either of them is gonna be picked to represent Finland in any international competition after acting like total douchebags, no matter how good their costumes might be.
At least as long as the judges and the people in charge of the local cosplay contests stay the same, which is gonna be for quite a while because those people haven't changed in at least three years.

>>7178885
Umi is nicest person what I have seen. She is nice to everybody and she doesn't have any drama around her. And she is a really great cosplayer!

>>7178924
Agreed! She's such a sweetie.

More gorgeous Finnish cosplayers! Rora is best judge in Finland and amazing cosplayer!

>>7178923
Even when the judges change the new ones surely know how troublesome those two are. Their costumes aren't that amazing, sure they are good but there is a lot of new cosplay competitors that can do better.

>>7178854
I really hope that next years team Finland is more social and nicer to WCS organisation than twins...

About the twins.. I was really shocked when I watched the red carpet parade and the twins didn't smile, wave or pose almost at all! Like you are there to represent one country and the cosplayers of the country, WHY do you have to act like that? If you aren't happy then pretend to be, just for the cameras at least!

>>7178937
Well, let's just hope that Ilona will not make her WCS costumes in two weeks, like in eurocosplay...

>>7178952
Yeah, and one of them did ran away from photographers because she was feeling sick and all... And poor photographer did have to chase her that he could give some present to Team Finland.

And love of God: They didn't even read schedules in WCS! And they even complained that they didn't have time to do their shitty makeups.

Why can't Finnish male cosplayers just wear a shirt?! Also this years Nordic Cosplay Championship team Finland was amazing. Let's hope that next years team will be too.

>>7178956

>Those short legs.

0/10

>>7178982
Maybe they're trying to get famous the Elffi way?

>>7178982
Well, what I know about the next years team Finland for NCC is that one that was chosen to represent Finland got the position with Rachel Alucard cosplay (same as Umi this year) and is known for some bad quality cosplays (ducktape showing and that kind of stuff, not good quality).. But that is all I know.. Hopefully the other ones will be better than what I've heard of her..

>>7178937
Naww, those two are total darlings.They're both good English-speakers, and very nice to fellow cosplayers, so I have high hopes for them!

Needs more trinode.

>>7179009
You're right.

>>7179009
agreed

>>7179025

>>7179009

>>7179009
Have some Trinode and Yumi

>>7179009
Hre you go

>>7179054
also have some more Yumi

>>7179070
>>7179054
Someone mentioned Yumi

>and let's hope that it will not turn out to be Swedish cosplay thread...

Well, it seems it's now Finnish cosplay thread. And I don't mind it a bit.

>>7179078
Finns always hijack every thread if you mention Finland.

>>7179080
Not this again /_\

>>7179079
Of course! We turn into propaganda machines the moment the word "Finland" leaves someone's lips in almost any context.

Guys are we forgetting someone?

>>7179089
NO. JUST NO.

>>7179089
Get that picture out of this thread now. We don't need any drama here.

Why do Finnish cosplayers always choose such ugly and boring costumes

>>7179001
Well what I heard that one of those twins (WCS 2013 team) has decide to go NCC preliminary in Frostbite. ... I sure hope that judges are smart and will not send her to NCC.

>>7179101
Pardon? I didn't hear you.

>>7179099
"oh but I want to be famous!!1221§22§"

>>7179101
Have you even seen any finnish cosplayers pictures besides the ones in this thread?

>>7178956
Well, her other bodysuit cosplay was a lot better

>>7179111
I must say this again.
NO. JUST NO.

>>7179111
Does anyone know how she got invited in to Confusion?

>>7179121
I don't know anything else but that she is in GOOD terms with Mattias, I guess he's a Swedish photographer? So maybe she got there with his help?

>>7179101
Ugly and boring? I don't think so.

>>7179121
Confusion staff asked her personally.

>>7177026
>cosplaying swede
>not dressed as captain britain or ms marvel

>>7179128
WHY?

>>7179124
I heard that she did... THINGS with some Confusion organizer.

Buuut... If Sweden wants Fia then go ahead we will not miss he.

>>7179137
I mean her

>>7179137
Well that was new to me! But not suprising.
But yes, take her swedes, please? Pretty please?

>>7179118
Oh okay, is this any better?

>>7179144
I did forget picture...

Umm, can anyone give me a crash course in to Fia?

>>7179147
OH MY GOD MY EYES

>>7179151
As a kimono hobbyist (okay now everyone knows who I am) this kind of pains my eyes...

Please do research if you do a kimono cosplay, ok?

>>7179121
>>7179124
>>7179128
She was invited to be a judge at the cosplay, not sure if she was ever paid for it or anything else though.

More fabulous Finnish cosplayers!

lapirin is kind a famous Finnish cosplayer?

>>7179167
Kinda.. She often cosplays together with Lirlys

>>7179157
Hello huilis.

>>7179167
>>7179168
Both cosplay a lot from popular shows and take decent photos with their groups. I would at least say tumblr famous.

>>7179172
definetly tumblr famous

Narudossu isn't best cosplayer, but damn she is best cosplay show host in Finland!

>>7179186
I want NaruDossu and Rimppu to have a host off. Seriously. Do it.

>>7179186
I think that certain sassy Elina is the best, but that's just me

Top 5 finnish cons?

>>7179205
I think it's almost pointless to note anyother cons outside Tracon and Desucon. The others are kinda meh.

>>7179205
Desucon, Tracon, Desucon Frostbite, aaaand well, I can seriously say that those are the best.. Not a top 5 I know. Hopefully Cosvision will be a great success (I really hope so) and well.. Maybe Animecon will be better next year? Hopefully.

>>7179090

>>7179210
How about Desucruise?

>>7179222
Never been to it so can't really say

>>7179210
Animecon (which is honestly more like Urumicon nowadays) has and will always be shit. I'd probably go there for the shits and giggles if it wasn't so far away.

>>7179222
And Desucruise is just an excuse for the organizers of Desucon to go on a ferry and get wasted while circlejerking and being "true anime fans"

>>7179222
That's not even a real con. :¨DDD It's just a cruise for "tr000 animu fans"

>>7179228
>>7179224
What's this "tr00 anime fans" thing?

>>7179233
Let's just say that Finland has a history with anime conventions being held on the side with roleplaying and scifi conventions. Then about three years ago there were some guys who whined about it, the convention holders whined back and then the first whiners made Desucon and basically marketed it as the "most anime anime convention".

It was something the Finnish convention scene needed but some people have taken it the wrong way and have started making strickt lines between all things anime and other nerd culture. Honestly, I don't even.

>>7179233
This

>>7179228
Actually Cruise is an occasion for people who have grown out of anime or are old Baaricon veterans. tr00 anime fans do not usually go, because too much emphasis on booze and partying.

Danish here! This is our NCC team 2014! I heard that Finland has some kind a team decide? What about Norway?

>>7179258
Finland have selected 2 cosplayers, the last one will be selected in February at Desucon frostbite

>>7179258
We have 2 representatives decided, the one in the middle and the one on right.

>>7179253
>>7179171

I think we need more cosplay pics

>>7179270

>>7179258
>>7179264
It's funny how Danish team is having a poker faces and then there is Finnish "team", bawling their eyes out (or so it seems from that picture).

>>7179278
Everytime someone gets chosen to represent Finland they cry their eyes out.

>>7179266
Glad to have been of service!

Have a randomly picked Finnish cosplay picture.

>>7179137
Who is she anyways?
Signed I am Swedish and what is this.

>>7179284
Check Ethereal Cosplay at Facebook, that's her. She was a judge at Confusion and well, she used her womanly charms to get to be a judge for you guys.
Also, have a photo, maybe you saw her?

>>7179284
Oh sweet lord you don't want to know her...

Buuut... She is Finnish "cosplayer" who "makes her own costumes" (read: she don't) and she... Use her female tactics to get what she want... Or then his fathers money. Anyway, she was guest judge in Confusion, what made a little uproar in Finnish cosplay circles, because she is a last person who could be a judge in cosplay competition.

>>7179284

What >>7179294 said and the fact that a lot of older cosplayers who have been doing this for years still hold a grudge against her for the huge amount of drama she created several years ago. She should have just left for good, no one was particularly happy when she started showing up at cons and cosplaying again.

>>7179284
Also she's coming to Närcon 2014, don't know if just as a con goer or as something else

>>7179303
What did she do? I follow her page and she seems nice to me.

>>7179303
She made a biggest drama in Finland back in the 08-10, before she did take a break from cosplaying. She, and her ex-girlfriend and exex-girlfriend.

Any good spurdo cosplay?

>>7179321
You. Go. Away.

>>7179308
And she CLAIMS that she makes her costumes, that have proven to be bought. She also spreads a lot of very mean rumor about others. D:

>>7179321

>>7179324
>>7179330

>>7179308
>>7179333
Also there's costumes that have been made by a streamstress that she claims to have made by herself.

>>7179352
seamstress

LEAVE ETHEREAL ALONE!!!! :'''(

More Finnish!

>>7179371
moaaaaarrrrr

>>7179377

More Rimppu

this thread need some more Swedish love... here have some Tennyo

>>7179427
So well-made Gii and Nago, and I love the shape of her dress. I didn't know Sweden had this talented cosplayers!

I will not let this thread to die. More Finnish.

I just don't understand why Fia doesn't understand that nobody really wants her to cons. She used to have some friends but then she started to trashtalk some of those few.

How about some great male cosplayers?

Fia hasn't done only trashtalking and that one case with two of her ex. She has played multiple people from the start of her "cosplay career" to this actual day. The amount of people is numerous.

>>7180163
Here you go!

>>7180181
>>7180135
But because she has this "charm" of hers, she gets easily every where. I heard that she will be cosplay judge in Yukicon, because her "friend" is cosplay competition organizer, Marlec (the one in picture)

I feel sorry for Yukicon because no one will take them seriously because of that.

>>7180343
No-one took them seriously after they picked Marlec to be responsible for cosplay organizing.

Laeppavika as invited guest sure didn't help.

Are you serious? Do you know which category she'll be judging?

>>7180336
Fia is judging? Which category? (Sorry for the double post, didn't hit reply first)

>>7180401
I think that she will judge "regual" and "hall" contest in Yukicon... Or that is what I have heard.

>>7180362
Trust me, there were a lot of more better candidates to cosplay organizing than Marlec, but Yukicons lead organizer wanted to take someone "who has knowledge to cosplay competitions". I think that she hasn't seen Marlec's costumes and performances....

>>7180419
I believe it's just costume contest then. Hall cosplay winners are decided by audience.

>>7180423
Dude. If you want to organize the cons cosplay things you really don't have to be a god tier cosplayer. You just need to have enough fucks to give. I've seen enough organizers give more fucks about if THEY have the nicest costume and the "A-list" as the judges, when they should be worrying about keeping the whole cosplay competition together whatever happens.

>>7180450
Her costumes aren't the biggest problem, though. It's just that she doesn't come across as a very stable person and most likely has no clue what she's even supposed to be doing. She doesn't take any kind of criticism well, either. I'm a bit worried that the cosplay contest is gonna be as bad as the one at Bakacon 2011..

>>7180450
This. I guess people have had their realities warped by the fact that Tracon and Desucon have their contests ran by accomplished cosplayers.

>>7180423
I need to say that while she has a reputation as a diva (which she sadly is), it doesn't necessarily make her a bad organizer. She's devoted to her work and has a lot of experience from the competing side and she has ambitions. She can't be as bad as some other people I've seen organizing cons in Finland. While we're talking about cosplay organizers who can't take critique, we can all remember the fit one certain major organizer threw after losing the WCS competition last year. When I think about it, most cosplay organizers in Finland can't take critique or responsibility at all, and mostly place the blame either the people taking part in the contest being stupid or the other organizers being incompetent. Or anything other than themselves.

Cosplay organizing isn't as hard as you think it'd be, it just requires you to follow through on your intentions.

>>7180450
Reminds me of this year's Animecon and its' cosplay competition. There was little to no info, the cosplay organizer didn't even bother to write proper Finnish, and the Saturday's competition lasted only for 30-45min, not to mention how Narudossu had to entertain the whole audience while the judges had to choose the winners. Whyyy

>>7180522
Let's not forget Bakacon 2011, where Minorea did send different schedule to judges, cosplaymamma and competitors. And she didn't even car aboute whole competition, she just hanged out with judges and her friends.

>>7180504
You gotta remember that every time she's on the stage she's either crying, throwing a fit or making a show of how she's not wearing pants. I'd rather watch Marlec on the stage than her, and I'd rather watch a drunken moose on the stage than Marlec. So yeah. Uhh.

But yeah, here's some more good finnish cosplay to stay even remotely on the actual subject.

>>7180546
OR making a show of how she wears leather pants. But yeah some picture time.

>>7180546
If I hear one more self-made "joke" about her not having pants or her showing her butt I'm going to cry, I swear. Even if she did have the body, she's way past that age and should behave accordingly. I'm not even trying to be mean but paired with the quality of her recent costumes it really takes away her credibility.

>>7180546
She's also a teacher, isn't she? I wonder if her students know her favourite hobby is making a huge deal of her ass and imagining she's a quirky sexy teenager.
I'm honestly really disappointed that she and her WCS pair keep going for those cutesy characters for their cosplays. They're both old and they both look old, so why not do some kickass adult characters instead?

>>7180581
Yes she is and some of her students follow her on twitter and on instagram so they actually know about it..

>>7180540
Might explain why Katsudocon was such a train wreck, too. Seriously, a con at a mall? Are you fucking kidding me?

>>7180589
Yeah, such a bad idea! Like who could really enjoy that? Also in her blog she wrote that she didn't even want to organize it anymore (or maybe I got it wrong but that is how I understood it).

>>7180581
Yeah, and her pair Hootti don't use makeup and she cosplay only little girls. And she really don't fit to those characters what she cosplay. Or she would, if she just would use a little bit (a lot) more makeup, like eyeliner ans fake lashes.

>>7180594
Yeah, she isn't going to organize Katsudocon anymore, so she will make a new convention! And than con is named after her cosplay blog: Kosupurecon.

And please, someone teach her how to use photoshop?

So much drama in this thread.
Here's a picture of (in my opinion) one of the most talented cosplayers in Norway, Martine.

>>7180602
I wish the first failure would've taught her something. Even though I wouldn't mind a good new convention I'm afraid this isn't the way to get one.

>>7180616
I have huge expectations to Cosvision. I really hope that next year there will be a good conventions along side of Desucon and Tracon.

>>7180630
Let's hope they get enough visitors. The same organizers have canceled enough events already.

>>7180653
I wonder if they ever learn. They need to either learn how to take risks or just stop alltogether.

>>7180653
>>7180661
Was this by chance the same group who canceled Bakacon because they didn't sell enough tickets?

>>7180667
Yes. They also postponed cosplay bootcamp for some reason.

>>7180653
Yeah. Cosplay Bootcamp was such an awesome concept, I hope it will become reality next year.

>>7180667
yeah. Before that, they planned on having a conorganizing course, which got shat upon by the Desu People. Also, I think they were involved with the cosplay boot camp that was being worked on.

>>7180669
>>7180670
That is ... a lot of canceled plans. Suddenly the high hopes I had for cosvision dimmed a little?

>>7180670
At least the head organizer of Bakacon was involved in the Bootcamp, from what I've gathered. Well, Cosvision has gotten lot of positive attention, so I really hope it will happen! The first cosplay guest was awesome, Kairi's work is incredible.

>>7180679
I sure hope that Cosvision will not be canceled. It sounds like a awesome concept and I'm kind a exited about these cosplay guests!

>>7180680

>>7180668
>>7180669
>>7180682
Cosplay Bootcamp was canceled because there weren't enough under-21 years old participants. That place where Cosplay Bootcamp would have been hold, said that over 50%(?) participants have to be under-21 years old.

>>7180691
Wasn't it under 18-year olds that were needed? Either way, such a shame.

>>7180703

Anybody knows how the twins placed in WCS this year? It kind of annoys me that they take part in nearly every competition just because they have to win all the time and they've also said that by themselves. And then brag off their 10th win on the row or something like that. They have terrible attitude.

>>7180740
Yeah, and what really bugs me is that they STILL try to get in WCS, EC and NCC! If judges has any commonsense, twins will never be representation to Finnish cosplay.

I think this deserves a spot with good finnish cosplays.

>>7180756
Really? I've always thought they take cosplay way too seriously and have some kind of mental issues or developmental problems due to their behavior. The way how they always take part in every contest there is and act like dicks to everyone else around is irritating to say the least. Yes, they can sew costumes because at least the other one is a professional costume maker but their props are always below-average in quality and their makeup sometimes goes way overboard. The material choices aren't always that good either. I've met them both backstage multiple times and it baffles me how inhumane they feel like. It's like they've received the Chinese ultimate training since childhood, sewing costumes in freezing temperatures and receiving hormonal costume-making shots, stripping them of all their humanity.

>>7178854
Now I'm certain that they have some kind of mental or social issues.

>>7180597
>>7180581
>>7180561
What's with all the hate?

Slow down everyone! This thread wasn't made for finnish people to talk shit about others.

>>7180581
I still think Ilona would look awesome as a male character. She's tall and has a broad frame and a face that could easily pass as androgynous, especially anime male. Seriously, she'd look so much better crossplaying than she does when cosplaying these cutesy baby faced girls. Just saying.

>>7181116
True! I would love to see her pull off some nice bishie. Her face and body could definitely do that.

Dont you die on me!
theres so little talk about danish and icelandic people in here!
Is the icelandic scene even existing?

>>7181609
What i have heard, Iceland has only lolita circel, not cosplayers. That's why Iceland isn't part of NCC.

>>7181366
Well she cosplayed Alto?

>>7181116
I think she chooses a lot more onee-sama characters than cutesy girls though. Yeah, their drawn moe but usually are way over their twenties. I don't think she chooses characters that poorly?

>>7181366
She did pull off Alto in that "lolita" outfit though. Considering the bishiness of the character and Alto being in drag, I thought she did an okay job.

If I wanted to visit a convention in Denmark or Norway, which conventions would you recommend?

>>7181805
Banzaicon is pretty nice here in Norway. Larvik, the city it's held in is kind of ugly as hell but the con is very small and cozy and generally has the nicest people and it's actually fun being there beyond just meeting other cosplayers.

>>7181789
There's some cosplay but it's mostly kids showing off their ebay buys and closet cosplays.

>>7181789
There's a few people in Iceland but it hasn't really latched on. It's mostly just people showing off their ebay buys and closet cosplays.
A bit sad since there are a lot of fans here, I wish there was more of a scene.

Okay heads up folks: What is THE BEST convention in Nordic countries? Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark & Iceland, where is the best?

>>7181859
Finland.

>>7181864
Is it? Because everything what I did read in this thread sounds like that Finland has some... Issues with conventions.

Even as I a a finn I actually really enjoy Swedish conventions (never been to Norway or Denmark so I have no experience of their conventions), there's a lot better vibe around the place and cosplayers are nicer to each other.. And let's not forget all the outdoor activities they have at Närcon! Too bad all the programs are in Swedish also (no wonder) so I can't really get to experience those.. But I also like some finnish conventions, especially Tracon, there's good panels and lectures, great cosplay competitions and the outdoor place is wonderful too.. I'm also sure that N&D have some really great conventions and think that there is no Nordic country with the best convention of them all.

>>7181903
The Issues are rather small in the end. The smaller the flaws, more room for bickering. A giant trainwreck of a con would only get some shrugs and "never again", the big cons (Tracon, Desucon, maybe Animecon) get critique for really small things. Like drinking water that is too cold.

>>7181903
Well, not exactly. There are cons that have struggled having enough visitors - like Bakacon which is held at Pieksämäki or newcomer Fanfest at Helsinki - and others have difficulties with organizing things properly (Animecon and apparently Yukicon). On the other hand, cons like Desucon and Tracon which doesn't need to worry about lack of congoers are trying to focus on making their cons even better. Correct me if I’m wrong in this but to my experience those two organizing groups are trying to improve their cons instead of doing what good old Animecon did, which was basically “well whatevz, people will come anyway so why bother fixing anything”

>>7179124
Everyone are on good terms with Mattias. EVERYONE.
>>7180611
Which Martine? Seriously why are there so many people that have that name over in Norway?
>>7181806
Actually went to Banzaicon last year because all of my friends where going and hey, why not! It was a lot of fun.
One tip if you are gonna work there as well: If you are gonna go get your free meal from the cafeteria, do it early as fuck. Me and my friend was gonna get our burgers and they were completely raw on the inside. Not fun.
>>7181911
I don't understand why the programs are still only in Swedish. I mean, you have the NCC there, c'mon. You are gonna bring a lot of people that don't know Swedish at all and there is no program in English even? Wat.

>>7181859
My votes go to Tracon and Närcon for entirely different reasons.

>>7181961
I heard finnish cons are much cheaper than our swedish cons?

On a completely different note:
I am competing in my first cosplay contest this winter, what should I expect? Common newbie traps to avoid?

>>7181915
Fanfest was a shit idea anyway. They should've just called it Tumblrcon because that's what it was.

>>7182005
Yeah, finnish cons are a lot cheaper actually :)

>>7182005
Desucon 2013 was 25€/3 days
Desucon Frostbite 2014 will be some 30€/3 days
Tracon 8 was 15.50€/2 days
Animecon X was 15€/2 days
Mimicon was 15,50€/2days
Kawacon 2013 was 6€/2days

So yeah, I think these are cheap.

How much does con tickets cost in Sweden, Norway and Denmark?

>>7182005
Meet my friend: >>7182029
>>7182055
The cheapest one I have gotten in Sweden is 150 SEK and the most expensive was at 650 SEK. That is not including sleeping halls.

>>7182055
Here (Swe) they're usually at around 300 Sek.
The 650 Sum was Uppcon and that was the last one, which was all just...Yeah it was too expensive, today there are no cons who go above 350.

>>7181915
There's also the fact that people who love desu, love it to death. It's almost like a cult.

Also, fun trivia for all non-finns: It's always been cool & hip to dislike Desu, sometimes for no particular reason at all.

Did the thread die? Nooo-

>>7181805
Denmark has Genki, which is really awesome and everything is in english. Had some really cool shows this year, and I heard that the cosplay competition was really cool too, because they had team rocket take it over . I wasn't at the cosplay competition myself though.
I've only tried Desucon in Norway, which was awesome as well, but everything was in Norwegian. I honestly can't recommend it if you don't understand Norwegian, but if you do, definitely go.

>>7186455
I have heard that Norway's Desucon is kind a shitty convention... : o

>>7186560
It is.
Shit tier Con.

>>7186768
tell us more

Post more photos of good cosplays from Norway and Denmark, please! Haven't seen many cosplayers from these countries :<

>>7186818
It's gotten extremely commercial, the artist alley is an amateur mess, the cosplays are shitty, people still do "free hugs" and "glomping".
But most of all the staff are just extremely unhelpful and the panels are just uninteresting. They still do carameldansen too, it's just embarrassing.

>>7186818
Not him, and not into the cosplay or con community, but I've been there many times. I've had fun there, but after I went to Banzaicon it really became clear how bad it is. One of the problems is that they only care about making money, so they'll never get anything that costs money. They are also trying to squeeze as much money as possible from their guests by selling special privileges like getting in an hour early or seats at front rows for extra money, which I don't like because it makes class differences at the cons and such.

They are also really monopolistic. They are refusing people who work at other cons to work for them, and they make cons at the same time as other cons so they'll fail when people can only afford one.

Another thing is that they have the exact same things every year, and they don't have that much to do in the first place. Not many panels or much to do.

I also hear they are really bad at judging the cosplay competitions. They always make people they know win, and the judges don't know much about crafting in the first place.

The people working there are angry and stressed, which makes it unpleasant to be there, and I imagine really bad to work there too.

When it comes to my experience, it was really bad this year, but fun the year before. This year, there was really nothing going on. They had moved to a new and bigger location, but they hadn't taken advantage of the bigger space, so there was nothing to do. The year before, it was super crowded (they sell tickets according to fire security rather than what's comfortable for people), so you could barely move, but the DS corner was fun, and the Minecraft LP was also fun. This year, they had removed all side activities like video games.

Goodmorning nordics, I feel like this thread doesnt deserve to die yet.

Discussion topic:
Which country is the best internationally and/or has the best cosplayers by awards

>>7188166
I'd say internationally the prize would probably go to Sweden. What I've seen the people winning their competitions are usually of great quality and I suspect some of them are even vaguely known outside of scandinavia?


By the way, did other finns notice Elffi posting a notice that he'll be opening up a poster shop soon? Everyone lining up to get their autographed picture of Elffi without a shirt on?

>>7179330
ei viddu :DDDDDDDD

>>7188166
>>7188386
I think that Sweden isn't internationally "the best" one. Yes, there have been quite nice cosplayers sometimes, but just sometimes. Sweden isn't part of ECG nor WCS, so they don't stand out like a Finland and Denmark. And I know that Sweden has this "we are best cosplay country in Scandinavia!" because they have these couple nice cosplayer who have some name, but no, Sweden isn't internationally the best Nordic country.

Norway don't have name anywhere else than just in Nordic countries.They aren't part of WCS nor ECG, what makes them less noticed from rest of Nordics. And they don't have any "famous cosplayer" what regular cosplayer like me would heard. Only thing what makes them liiiitle bit noticed, is that FDP goes to Banzaicon, but that's all...

Finland has only "Elffi", and people misunderstand him either USA citizen OR German. Finland isn't part of ECG. But Finland has never been noticed in WCS (except when Elffi is there) so we can't count on that. Finland has some few "nice cosplayer" like Sweden has, but that doesn't get them too far.

But, then there is Denmark. Denmark is, for my option, the best internationally from Nordics. Even though their costumes aren't best ones, Denmark is part of WCS, ECG, ECC and NCC. They have won prizes, and cosplayers from Denmark has a lot of more "fame" than rest of Nordics cosplayers. They even advertise themselves and they has a lots of conventions where half of panels are indeed, in english.


The best internationally prize goes, for my option, to Denmark.

>>7188166
Buut, the best cosplayers prize goes to Finland. Even though the rest of Nordics has a nice cosplayers, Finland has more talent in craftsmanship. Here are my reasons why:

First, I want to say that I have been in every Nordic cosplay conventions, so I have seen what kind a cosplayers there are.

Swedish cosplayers don't make their costumes as accurate as they should be. Huge part of Swedish cosplayers makes their costumes like it would be year 2009. They use their own hair and they don't handle propmaking. These are just examples. I know that Sweden has those "super awesome cosplayers" but MOST of Swedish cosplayers just don't do accurate costumes.

Norway... Oh Norway. Norway has same thing like Swedish, but a little bit worse. Norwegian cosplayers use ducktape like there wouldn't be tomorrow, and they make a lots of casual costumes. Like I said before, there is better cosplayer, but you can't see them.

Then there is Denmark, what I nominated for being the best internationally cosplayers. Even though Danish has some name in Cosplay World, their costume don't give to it. Danish cosplayers usually focus on stage performance, forgetting to do costume as accurate as possible. They don't finish their costumes on time, what makes painting job or clothes seam looking bad. And same thing as always, there is better cosplayers, but most of it are usually like this.

And then there is Finland. Finnish cosplayers has the best craftsmanship and sewing on to costumes what I have seen. Finnish cosplayers usually makes a simple costume, but they make it so well, that it's fantastic. This isn't just a few cosplayer, it's most of cosplayers! They are really focused on those costumes, and they even try to make it accurate as possible, all around to embroidery to sewing methods. And their props are really well made. But, Finnish peoples has their dark side too.

But compared to others Nordics countries, Finland has the best cosplayers.

>>7188441
I agree. Sweden has some exceptionally talented cosplayers, but they only make up the top of a very small unknown community. (Not to mention that there is a lack of panels and information in English. It's at least getting better nowadays.)
Denmark's community feels more active and well known, with a better spread of talent, not to mention that it feels like they have a better international focus.

For example both 1st and 2nd place went to Denmark in NCC. I think that say's a lot.
(On the other hand I think it's worth mentioning that it feels like most "good" cosplayers don't take those competitions all too seriously so they are not really in it to win.)

>>7188441
>Norway don't have name anywhere else than just in Nordic countries.They aren't part of WCS nor ECG, what makes them less noticed from rest of Nordics.
Yeah, I think it's a bit weird because we don't lack that much in talent. I see lot of really top-tier cosplayers here but they don't ever seem to gain much recognition internationally or are not interested in competitions. It's a shame.

Does danish conventions allow you to drink alcohol on the actual con-grounds? That would be awesome. Swedish conventions are so fucking awkward that I would never go again, jesus christ.

>>7188452
Finland would have god tier cosplayers if they performed as well as their costumes are made. Too bad most Finnish cosplayers have no idea what to do on stage and the cosplay contests are full of half assed swordfights and dance performances. So much second hand embarrassment.

>>7181789
>>7181837

The lolita circle is growing really well here. Like anon said the cosplay group is really lacking...Mostly just kids who don't know what they're doing. There's a Japan Festival here that is becoming less cultural and more weeby convention but I suppose everything starts somewhere.

There was a Nordic thread before and a lonely lolita in Höfn posted saying she was the only one there. Does anyone know of her?

>>7188529
No, they do not... Im danish and theres no convention with allowed alchohol on con grounds

I don't really know any norwegian cosplayers, I couldn't mention anybody by name if you asked me right now, whereas I could mention a alot of danes and swedes and a couple of fins. (whats the correct term to use for a finnish person in english?)
So I honestly don't have much to comment on Norway, except they defiantly aren't the best scandinavian country when it comes to cosplay (nor football lolololol)

I think Denmark is the best when it comes to stage performance, they are very good at presenting their acts on stage as an actual play and they use many effects to impress, they defiantly take the prize on that part. (lets forget about this years wcs team, what an embarrassment).
With that said, I don't think they are that impressive with costumes... theres a few very good costumes but most of it is very small and if its big its not wellmade in details, and I think the reason for this is that materials and fabric is SHIT expensive in denmark, and the cosplayers are all very young and broke.
When they get a good job and get money, they are usually so old they aren't that into cosplaying anymore.
I mean ofcourse theres also just those who are bad at sewing/making cosplays, but I think my other point also stands.

Sweden is very good I think, but they lack in international competitions, and unlike Denmark they aren't that impressive on stage but better in costume making in general I think. I think swedish cons should try to get into more competitions, they have the talent but they don't have the opportunity to actually go long with it!
I wanna see sweden in big competitions and conventions over the world alot more, make it happen!!

What I don't get about Fnland is that they are really really good, maybe not so much stage as Denmark but they defiantly have amazing cosplays and some really good cosplayers.... why are they so fucking shit in wcs?
Always super bad or invisible, nobody notices them at the wcs.. get some good ones going!!!

>>7188557
Reason WHY Finland has a shitty wcs pairs is purely this: WCS competition is advertised in Finland as "free trip to Japan", not as "World Cosplay Summit". WCS judges (whom never change) has said that no-one should take WCS seriously.
Another reason is that Finnish cosplayers are horrible when it comes to pair/group cosplay competition. Usually it's really awkward stage performance with dancing or fighting.... But when it comes to solo competition (NCC, EC), there is more participants and more nice performances (but still awkward fighting...).

>>7188636
The main problem with WCS in Finland is that the judging is so inbred it's not worth the try if you're aware of the fact. I've never competed in WCS nor do I want to but when each year the same judges choose their friends to be the winners (with last year being an exception), participating loses its point. For example, I will never, ever understand this year's winning couple, their skit wasn't nearly as good as some of the other participants and the costumes were average and inaccurate. But they were friends with the judges, so there you go.

But it's true that the skits I see in Finnish cosplay competitions are rarely inventive, funny, entertaining or anything other than inside jokes of the show, random fights, walk-ins or dancing. Sometimes there are creative skits that don't require any beforehand knowledge of the show (such as the Little Witch Academy at this year's WCS competition which got a honorable mention) and well-organized skits that capture your interest (such as the winning ECS skit from last year). But often I kind of tune out in the audience during every other skit.

>>7188693
Last year wasn't exception. Even though twins wasn't good friends with judges, there still did have some "we-know-you" relationship going on. So yeah, these days you can get to WCS IF you are very good friends to judges, or you know them for some reason.

>>7188557
I think that Finland has this problem that we have to "represent" everytime we get into an international competition. We think more about making a good impression on everyone, being social, not making anyone mad, etc. Also the fact that we focus on craftsmanship instead of performance is a downside when thinking about World Cosplay Summit. It can't be called a real competition, but I think that us Finns tend to forget that even if we can't WIN something we could at least try and leave an impression.

>>7188693
I feel almost bad for wanting Finland's 2014 team to place 2nd again. They were so butthurt about it last year that it was hilarious.

But tbh, they had the best skit out of all the contestants in the prelims and since WCS is more about the stage performance than craftsmanship, I wasn't surprised that they won. Their detailed detailed and neat costumes were just a plus.
While some of the teams competing might have had better costumes and all that shit, their skits consisted of awkward sword fights or terribad dialogue and acting with equally broken English. And then there was that one pair that tried to be funny by using memes...

>>7188711
It's almost impossible not to know everybody if you are even the least bit active in the competition or organizing circles. The scene really isn't that big. It's an annoying fact that the judges buddies always win, but it's more because of the fact that it's goddamn hard NOT to know the winners in someway.

>>7188538
And not to mention there are really not that many good cosplay photographers in Finland, so the good costumes get only hallway shots at best.

To all the people who think Finland's team for NCC this year was amazing: Are you blind? Umiyo was the only one who actually has cosplaying skills and looks good in her costume, but I have no fucking clue how the judges chose the other 3 if the key factors were representation, craft skills and experience. All of the participants were very much alike and there wasn't any variety in them, besides Umiyo they were straight out bland. I know the judges are reading this thread since they can't keep their claws out of Finnish drama so here's my message to them: What the hell were you thinking? I know a lot of actually gifted, dashing and talented cosplayers who tried to apply and Umiyo was the only one of them who made it through. Instead you chose the most effortless team you could.

>>7188557
SOooo~... What happened to Danish team 2013? We have talked quite lot of Finnish team, but I want to hear Danish WCS team stories too.

>>7188538
There are a bunch of amazing Finnish cosplayers, but the thing is that the better they are the less they seem to make a number out of themselves. They don't want to compete or whore themselves out excessively like Elffi does , they just want to do a good job with their costumes and make friends. The Finnish are usually very, very modest so bringing yourself out to the crowd is scary and foreign to them.

>>7188755
I should also add that if you're actually a god-tier cosplayer, you don't need to spend your time whoring yourself and "networking" (brown-nosing) to raise your self-esteem.

>>7188747
wow wow there, hold your horse. This is someone who actually did SEE NCC competition. Finland's NCC team 2013 was great. Not the best, but great. Their costumes was really well done, and their performance were good too. Judges did send those 4 because their costumes were done, and they must have knew, that these 4 can make a performance in a short time!
In the finals, team Finland was great and they really showed their skills, even though they did have 2 months (TWO DAMN MONTHS) before NCC finals.

Umiyo is great and sweet cosplayer, but rest of them are too. NCC team 2013 wasn't just Umiyo being great.

>>7188717
Anyone care to elaborate on the butthurt?

>>7188775
They were clearly disappointed and for example, refused to shake hands with the judges after getting 2nd place last year. Afterwards, the girl on the right wrote a long, butthurt and somewhat bratty blog post about how they should have won because their costumes and performance was clearly better etc.

Oh well, at least these two speak good English and probably won't embarrass themselves like this year's team did.

>>7188775
>>7188814
I'll just leave this here.

Alright, can anyone say what would it take to be chosen to represent Finland in the NCC? Is it the costume, the performance, what? Would it have to be terribly good? I was a bit surprised at the second selected person, the one with the same costume Umi had. It looked quite horrible. Can't remember the performance that well, but it all seemed way too familiar from what Umi had done.

>>7188831
Wow if looks could kill, jesus that one with the pink hair is terrifying.

>>7188742
More like people just let their friends take their pictures. There are a few good photographers in Finland I think, but our con and cosplay photography culture is just... awful. People don't put emphasis on light, location or actually good gear. And the editing is just plainly horrible most of the time. There's really no knowledge of what actually MAKES a good picture qualitywise.

>>7188859
I completely agree with that her placement was quite a surprise, but we also gotta remember that for some reason the level of quality in that contest was much lower than average, though I have nothing against the other girl who got chosen with the Meruru costume. Could most people rely on taking more time for their costumes and performances and trying it out in Frostbite where the second part is held?

>>7189077
It can also be that the "better" cosplayers decided to take part in the competitions that were held on Saturday that the NCC qualifiers.
Also I know that there are many good cosplayers taking part in the Frostbite's competition so I guess some want to use more time on the costumes.

>>7189077
That Rachel started to make that costume BEFORE Umi and her costume was really good. It wasn't better than umi, but it was the best costume from that competition. Her performance wasn't similiar to umis, it was different.

I can say, that she was better than that meruru girl.

I am so following this thread for the laughs. Thank you based recosplay

>>7189840
I don't know, I think the rachel was worse than meruru. Her state act was really bland and boring, and it's really odd that she'd take part with the same character Umi had previously in the same competition. It's a lot easier to judge that way and her costume, especially compared to Umi's, wasn't that well made.
Meruru as a whole did better, the costume was nice and the act wasn't boring.

That said I'm sure that there will be some better cosplayers at Frostbite and hope that we can have some insanely talented people representing us, and preferably none of the known people that keep getting mentioned in this thread.

>>7190028
Don't even get me started on Rimppu.. She's a total joke taken how proudly she announces being an elitist despite her costumes being mediacore at best.

>>7190053
*mediocre damn it

>>7190053
Rimppu must be happy now given how she said she'd like people talking shit about her!

>>7190062
I almost wanted to post something about her here after seeing that vid but then there really isn't much to talk about when it comes to her.

>>7190053
It's interesting how many of the most vocal "elitists" in Finland make really mediocre and even sometimes crappy cosplay. Usually all the really good cosplayers are really quiet and don't want too much attention.

>>7190078
Let's play a game. Everyone lists three very good cosplayers who aren't involved in a drama and you personally aren't friends with.

>>7180653
It sure doesn't help that it's overlapping with this years Eurovision Song Contest. That's a dealbreaker for me and for several others.

>>7190085
Hiron, Rullarinkeli and Keikisalai.

>>7190078
trinode, yumikoyuki and yaci

>>7190085
trinode, AG and Hitsu

>>7190099
was meant for
>>7190085

>>7188814
>blog post about how they should have won because their costumes and performance was clearly better etc.

Huh? They never said they were better than the winners, they just said they were very proud of their skit and costumes and of all the time and effort that were put into them. Of course that could be interpreted to mean "those two were nothing compared to us" but eh. And to be honest, the twins winning was a bit surprising considering they were still making the costumes in the locker room, which doesn't give the best image of your scheduling skills, but oh well.

>>7190062
Instead of talking shit about her, I have some critique.

She's clearly in her element when hosting cosplay competitions. However, I think it's getting repetitive. I wish she'd try and reinvent herself a bit. Come up with something new, so it wouldn't be the same old Rimppu-show we see every time she's on stage. I'm sure she has her fans, who'll like her regardless, but there's so much unused potential it's killing me. And I don't think she wants the blind worshipping her *cough* younger fans emit on her.

Also I hate how often she goes for the cheap joke. It sometimes comes across like she's undermining the contestant in order to get some laughs for herself. I love her the best when she uplifts the contestant while still being funny. Or clearly makes them relax a little on stage. So more of that, pls.

Any good swedish cosplayers? I want new faces to look at

>>7190053
I'm definitely mediocre at best, but it doesn't mean I can't tell a difference between a good costume and a bad costume. To me, elitism is about appreciating perfection and trying to achieve it yourself, but considering my skill level is pretty shit (even though I have made costumes that I've been incredibly proud of, craftsmanship-wise; see >>7180668
), there's only so much I can do. I do my best with the resources and the skill set I have. Sometimes I'm happy with the results, sometimes I'm not.

>>7190157
Aw yiss, proper critique! These are all things I've actually been struggling with for a while now; knowing that I pretty much give the same performance over and over again and not being all that happy with it, no matter how much the audience seems to enjoy it. I'm currently thinking of with ideas for Desucon Frostbite, so I'll take this as a challenge and figure out something new.

Norway here.
The cosplay scene is very dead. Although here the other day I met a girl dressed up as mikasa while I was working in the grocery store. Strange thing is that I live in a small remote valley town.

I regret not asking her name, very much, because the probability for something like this to ever happen again ain't there. She was so damn cute.

>>7190166
You mean except the typical Jözz, Figgarow and the rest of the JoC group?

If anyone is interested, here are Rachel's and Meruru's performance in NCC qualifiers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC71NuLwhs0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZvV6Q0hjp8

>>7190190
>The cosplay scene is very dead
Nah, you're just going to the wrong cons.

>>7190238
Well... That Rachel isn't THAT bad. She did have awkward self-fighting there, but her "music" was really good and well made.

>>7180611

>>7180611
This is the reason. I have been looking for more info on this cosplayer after seeing her at Spillexpo.no outside Oslo this weekend. I was so impressed with her costume. The legs are backwards, almost. And the glowing eyes. I must admit, she is both scary and sexy!

>>7190349
Yes, I found her facebook page:
facebook(dotcom)(slash)GrotesqueKawaii

It even includes "the making of" the costume :)

>>7190199
When in doubt, post them.

>>7190143
They weren't making the costumes in the locker room, they were fixing a broken zipper that almost made them cancel the participation.

Guys, would you like to post pictures of these awesome cosplayers? And some names or pages!

>>7190238
Haha, loved that "idea lamp"-effect Meruru had. Rachel's performance wasn't bad either, but it was kinda typical for a Finnish skit (monologue/dialogue --> some fighting --> afterword). Watching some skits from countries with more innovative skit ideas does help the problem with her future NCC skits, and maybe skits after that?

>>7190143
>They never said they were better than the winners

I distinctively remember Ilona saying that "we were the best couple in the contest" in that blog post unless she has edited it. That and the temper tantrum on the stage is why I lost my respect for her.

>>7188831
Anyway if they made face like this on stage, I think it's better that they had one more year to fix their attitude.

>>7190095
>Keikisalai
She just recently entered a cosplay contest with a huge prop she had comissioned, in other words didn't make herself.

>>7190584
Shouldn't be a problem if she let the judges know. If she didn't it's a whole other story.

>>7190600
If the prop makes up for about 50% of the costume and is the most elaborate part of it, then yes, it is a problem.

>>7190584
You sure? I remember reading about how she made it in her blog.. (if you mean that wheel thing she had in Tracon, because that is the only huge prop I've seen with her..)
Anyways she does know how to sew, but she really lacks skills in make-up.. Like most of the finns..

>>7181859
I don't even know if there are any cons in Iceland, feels bad man.

>>7190665

There's some talk about starting one but who knows when that will happen.

>>7190584
Her Walpurgis night seems sloppy for someone who's studying sewing. Especially the fabric selection could be better.

>>7190584
The only props that come in my mind are the ones she had at the contests in Tracon and Katsudocon and they're both selfmade, she wrote about both of them in her blog. She usually makes all of her costumes + makes costumes for others so it's hard to think that she would enter a contest with a commissioned prop.

>>7190669
Probably isn't enough demand, probably.

>>7190696
It was exactly her Tracon's contest costume that I heard from a couple of people had been commissioned. I've never read her blog though and I'd never heard of her before Tracon and the rumors of her commissioning her things either, so those were just rumors.

>>7190199
Yeah, some other good swedish cosplayers

>>7190737
I saw pictures in some guy's blog where they were working on the huge gear but I can't find it anywhere. I think it was that exciter's momentum guy and his friends who did it.

>>7190095
>Keikisalai
Other than entering a contest with a huge comissioned prop, how the hell could you include her on the list. Her costumes are barely average and half of them are closet cosplay tier. I mean she writes stuff like this:

>Well, to make it short: I attented Animecon in Kuopio, Finland a few weeks ago as Hipster Pinkie Pie. And as I had promised, I carried loud speakers and played remixed songs from MLP the whole time. Just for laughs.

We have hit the bump limit, so new thread?

>>7191611
Maybe just to make us mad and talk shit about her?

>>7191703

New thread here.

in finnland there is too many good cosplayers and they are over confident and all some even forget they friends and all and i'm shamed about that and yes cosplay have lost it's touch in finland it's too serious novadays it shold be fun and all

Shin-Shin or whatever it is people call her nowadays is an amazing cosplayer, makes great costumes. (From Finland, yes) But I've been told by numerous of people, and noticed, that she's a huge prick towards others whom disagree with her, childish as hell, gets super butthurt easily and is just downright rude. People have asked her how she did some parts of her costumes, and she just turned them down rudely, saying that it's her ''professional secret''. Finland has alot of great cosplayers with great personality, then there are those whom are just assholes. (The twins, for example.)

And stop saying stuff about Elffi. He's a GREAT cosplayer and yes, he's trying to make LIVING OUT OF SOMETHING THAT HE LOVES. Are you people seriously going to snort at artists too that they take money for having people listening to their music!? People NEED to make a living out of things, and he's trying to make a living of something that he loves! So shut up. And he's GREAT in person, not a stuck up arsehole like those whom were mentioned before.