/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>7167502
Pic obviously isnt me
I was just cosplaying Mami thats all

were they all fat? they were probably all fat.

>>7167502
>its looked down upon to openly yell someone in public to go on a diet.
But it's not. This happens at cons a lot

If you were Mami, they were probably those fat dumbasses that think big boobs = fat.

Its because fat people are only picked on online and to this day its only "mean" to pick on fatties and its still ok to pick on thin people people they shouldnt feel bad or something anyways

I get told this all the time. I've been tall and thin all my life.

Next time tell them to eat less dick sandwiches.

>>7167506
Or really homely and can't take care of themselves because: muh tomboy

They tend to be really bitchy and insecure too

Anyways I'd just laugh and walk away, I'm usually the same size measurement wise(my waist is a bit fatter right now because I've been lazy during school)

>>7167515
>>7167506
Pretty much this.
I'm skinny(34 26 40) have a fast metabolism and hypoglycemia, I eat like a fat cow though but people still make those kinds of comments, plus the added comment about being bulimic.

I wouldn't worry too much though OP, next time they ask you should tell them you're about to make some toast to have with their jelly, that's what I do.

Honestly girls pointing out their own insecurities is better than fuggos who think they're hot shit.

>>7167510
I was at a panel with Little Kuriboh and his wife (idk his newest lover or idk) she is fat as shit and she openly called out people telling them to eat a sandwich constantly then RIGHT AWAY "justified it" by calling herself fat...this is not a justification and there is no way to justify that.

I dont fucking care It was a 18+ panel, it was straight up mean and frankly very immature and unprofessional.

I don't think it's acceptable to justify being a dick to anyone, especially if you're going to stereotype everyone to justify it. Like when fatties use the excuse that 'skinny people' make fun of fatties more, as if skinny people are a singular unit or something. That shit is tumblr logic the oppressed can't oppress or some garbage the fact that people in the real world have taken it to heart is pure unadulterated bullshit.

Never take those people seriously. If fatties have the option to be skinny without effort, they would jump on that as fast as they inhale cheeseburgers.

I get that all the time (36-24-43, it doesn't look at dramatic as the numbers are) along with people bitching that my hip area is fake and I'm over doing the corset.

Don't worry about it OP, they're just jelly. Next time someone tells you that look them in the eyes and say "You should lay off them" and walk away.

No OP, you're not overreacting. I hate this shit so much. I'm fucking sick of everyone telling me I need to eat or that I look sickly, because I do eat and I'm not sick either. I just have an insanely fast metabolism. Just because my body is considered "ideal" doesn't mean I deserve to be insulted. Truth be told, skinny people can be insecure about their bodies too.

>>7167556
>>7167521
>muh metabolism
No nigga. You're either not eating as much as you think you are, or you exert yourself much more than you think.

>>7167572
I sit around the house all day doing nothing and take in around 4000 calories. I eat atleast 5 full sized meals per day, can down 3 16in pizzas in one sitting and then be hungry 2 hours later.

Wanna try again?

>>7167574
>5 full sized meals
hard-boiled eggs and strips of lettuce aren't meals

I don't think you're overreacting. I'd be irritated to if I was trying to enjoy myself and some asshole came up and started insulting me out of the blue. I had a super skinny friend who was accused of photoshopping herself skinnier in her photos when she's just really skinny.

>>7167572
Shut the fuck up nigger.

I can sit on my ass all day and eat junkfood. Won't go over 65 kilos. And I do sit on my ass all day because I have nothing to do but look for jobs, and smoke weed.

Just like some people are fat pigs that fill up from one bit of chocoscent, there are people that have black holes instead of a stomach.

Deal with it. It's life. The quicker you accept it, the quicker you can start thinking about shit that matters in YOUR life. Because your dense motherfucking ass sure isn't thinking about shit that matters in YOUR life.

>>7167577
They are for rabbits, good thing I already had 3 bowls of steak chili. Sorry bby, I don't need any jelly with my dinner atm.

>>7167579
lel
This is literally the same as fat people who think they exercise because they walk a single flight of stairs a day and inhale 60000000 calories, so it must be their metabolism making them fat.
Unless you have some horrible disease or condition, that's not how it works.

>>7167586
>hypoglycemia
>not a disease or condition
>mfw

>>7167572
>>7167577
>yfw

>>7167592
I never said that, just that "my metabolism is doing this" is a pretty bad excuse.

>>7167590
>YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS OF MY THINNESS!!!!!11
Nice try.

>>7167594
It's not though, most fatties whine about their metabolisms making it sooo hard to lose weight, when all it does is make it harder to put the fucking fork down. Generally speaking though if food is processed faster you don't get as fat, that's how it works.

>>7167598
So...you like being lardy?

>>7167601
Yeah, that's why they're fat and forever will be fat. They make bullshit psuedoscientific excuses.
Metabolism isn't tied as much into weight as you probably think it is, except in cases of disease/conditions like I mentioned. If you have a faster metabolism but still eat a lot, you won't get "as" fat as other people, but it doesn't mean you'll be as skinny as a bean pole either.

>>7167502
anyone who hassles you with those perfect proportions is just jelly. hell im jelly, wish i looked that good :) so dont mind the few that go around using aggression like that to hide their own insecurities. and if it makes you feel better, i get similar (but reversed) shit for being slightly overweight (bmi 24 so genuinely not that fat) so even if you did what they wanted, they'd just change from eat a sandwich to put down that sandwich so don't even bother listening to them

thin people who don't gain weight aren't eating as much as they think they are, while fatties who can't lose weight are eating more than they think. Most of the time.

dumdums

>>7167616
Or have diseases.

>>7167619

>>7167502
>Also I just feel like its unfair that people dont think its offensive to openly say this in hallways but its looked down upon to openly yell someone in public to go on a diet.

I've been told I need to eat more and gain weight ect. I think this every time.

I should be able to call people out on being fat if it's ok to hassle be for being "too skinny"

>>7167624
>be=me*

>>7167619
>Most of the time.

>>7167584

I used to have the same measurements as you and while I looked pretty skinny I also had muscles (I was working anywhere from 30-70 hours a week at a physically intensive job), so I think that kept rude people off of my back. You can't get muscles without eating, after all.

>>7167584
That's pretty good, I'll give you that.

because you have no tits

dont cosplay big titted characters

>>7167643
Fatties don't have tits, either. They have sagging mounds they could play hackey sack with.

It's really sad that fat cunts think that their tits, which they have because they are hamplanets, are enough to redeem them for their fatness.

>>7167652
THANK YOU HUNGRY SKELETON

Some fat old lady told me to eat a sandwich when I was at a comic convention dressed as Dark Phoenix. I'm not even skinny, more average than anything. I didn't even know how to respond, like how is that an acceptable thing to say to anyone, let alone a stranger? I understand people often project their insecurities on others, but there's a thing called manners and keeping shit to yourself.

>>7167643
>muh tits

Every single thread, some lardplanet chirps in with this. That said, I agree - if you're flat, pad or choose another character. That said, if you're fat, your character better also be fat or you're going to look fucking ridiculous.

>>7167669
>>7167652
Why do you both assume that anon was a fat chick? I thought they were just some douchefaggot male.

>>7167667
hahahahaha fatties at cons are hilarious.
>>7167673
because its /cgl/

>>7167659
>Small breasts =/= Starvation

You're a moron if you don't understand shit like tit size based off of genetics, body fat content, and birth control. But, yeah, man. My pierogi pounding ass is so damned starved.

>>7167673
Because /cgl/ has a lot of fat and pissy lolitas who think that their J-Fashion hides their rolls, while failing to realize that they look like a giant child and not a petite Asian woman.

>>7167502
>eat a sandwich
>I can't, you guys ate them all.

>>7167502
one time in high school someone yelled "eat a sandwitch" and proceeded to throw one at me. It landed on the back of my head and and had hair that smelled like sandwitch for so long no matter how much I washed it

It's really not fun when someone insults your weight, small or fat - or any physical trait for that matter. Just keep that shit to yourself, there is no reason to publicly insult and humiliate people

This thread does remind me I need to lose weight...

I'm sort of hovering around 36-30-39, and I worry I don't have the right amount of hourglass to pull off proper lolita... At least, whenever I lose it, it comes straight off my waistline and leaves my hips be. It's all effort, now, so I'm motivated!

>>7167502
>it has happened over 5 times to me during all 3 cons I've been to this year
>In the hallways I was told by someone passing to "eat a sandwich"

Tell them to stick a fork up their ass and keep their ignorant opinions to themselves.

Hi Jessie,
No one cares
Sincerely, someone on your friendslist

>>7167693
I have an hourglass and it makes everything look booby. Even when I swim in the dress and I've tried with back ties it scrunches up weirdly. Sometimes I'm lucky but in the end it makes me realise pear shapes pull it off better

>>7167572
>>7167577
>>7167586
Clearly you are fat and have never known a very skinny person well enough to see their eating habits.
You being ass pained =/= >METABOLISMS DONT WORK THAT WAY LEL

>>7167699
It's psuedo-science bullshit and one of the millions who think that they're nutrionists who know everyone's dietary habits, metabolism, etc.

>>7167572
>>7167577
>>7167586
>>7167592
>>7167598
>>7167607
>>7167616
>>7167619
>>7167643
>>7167659
>>7167698
>>7167705

You're fat.

I was 72 lbs., 32-25-33, and was told to gain weight by everyone from my doctor to my grandmother to my next-door-neighbor. I believed that I looked terrible and unhealthy and undesirable because I was led to believe as such. I'm now 100 lbs., 34-28-35, and I look worse than ever. Everything went to my stomach and face. All my favorite jeans are tight and uncomfortable and give me a muffin top, my lolita frills can just barely hide the paunch of my skinnyfat shame, and since being laid off + my continued struggle to find new work, I can't afford new clothes either. None of those people are outright telling me awful I look, but I know they're thinking it, and I hope they feel guilty as fuck, because they caused this.

>>7167741
>72 lbs
How tall are you?

>>7167750
5' 1", forgot that part.

>>7167705

no it's not, metabolisms vary by like 200

>>7167698
You're a pretty shitty friend.
Sincerely,
Anonymous

P.S. I guess letter writing is dead, way to not follow the extremely simple correct format.

>>7167697
The girls who wear those nice cutsews and blouses that pull in around the waist are really super cute, though!

>>7167751
100 pounds is still pretty tiny for your height. You might just feel uncomfortable because it's more weight than you're used to, but I bet you look great.

Wow, some of these replies itt...
>Someone humiliated you about your body in public?
>HAHA OH ANON I BET THEY WERE FATTIE FAT LARDASS LANDWHALE FAT ACCEPTANCE HURR I BET THEY CLAP WHEN ICE CREAM XD
Seriously, some of you are massive hypocrites.

>>7167769
I'm not a hypocrite. I got used to whales being asshurt. I realized that we'll never be able to reason with one another because they're immature as fuck to be glaring at me to begin with.

So, in that case, I'd rather them feel like shit about themselves. If they kill themselves? Even better. One less oinking, snorting hog mess with her piggy nose and sausage fingers to ugly up the world.

Not even trolling, either. Completely serious.

I don't know about that metabolism = bullshit thing. For about five years my Asian friend eat all the same meals as me (we cook together) and she stayed way lighter despite us working the same job and us jogging together. At about 1500kcal a day she was 96lbs and I was 125lbs. We're both 5'6". She ran a little bit faster at a mile than I did, too. We were about 4.5 seconds apart - so it's not more muscle or something.

Now I run a 5:30 minute mile, eat only vegan, and am 115lbs. She can't even break 8 minutes anymore, eats nearly double I do at every meal, adds cheese to all the vegan stuff, and she's 85lbs. There's gotta be some voodoo in there, because all the math points to some kind of metabolic difference. It's not even bone size! I have a tiny Irish frame, and she's a pretty average Chinese. And don't even go for the bullemic excuse, I'd notice since the bathroom is connected to my room, not hers.

>>7167757
Thanks I guess. I'm still in the process of trying to lower myself back down to 90~92 and flatten my stomach though. Hopefully in time for next summer...

>>7167795
Half Asian, here. While there are some exceptions, Asians tend to be small by and large. My entire Father's side of the family is that way, with my Aunts each having two to three children and passing for twenties while in their forties.

I'm 34-22-36 and a ballerina. I eat meals that my White friends can only have every so often and am the only one in the house not on a diet. I'm at my heaviest currently; 110lbs.

>>7167782
>I realized that we'll never be able to reason with one another because they're immature as fuck to be glaring at me to begin with.
I think you're immature as fuck for generalizing an entire body type just because -you're- the one asspained over what a group of people look like.
Maybe people just don't like you and this is why you have this kind of social problem to begin with.
>I'm not trolling, I'm a legitimate retard!
Oh okay. Carry on by all means.

>>7167795
I'm assuming you're not asian.
It could simply be the fact that you're of a european build and therefore are just inherently biologically different than someone with an asian frame. That's real.

>>7167812
Fuck fat people and fuck you.
You learn a lot when both your parents are obese landwhales and it fucking ruins you as a person.

I feel you, OP. I get told this a lot too. We have almost the same measurements

People say shit to me at lunch like "oh .. you're not eating? That makes sense .." or "you're not eating? You don't have to worry about that stuff! Look at you!" And its like no motherfucker my food is heating up in the microwave and I'm waiting for it thanks for ALL THOSE FUCKING ASSUMPTIONS.

People just .. assume I have issues with food because I'm thin. It's beyond rude, and beyond aggrivating.

Op you're not overracting. My measurements are similar to yours (36-23-35) and some people use to be awful to me about it.

Getting
>eat a sandwich
>you look like a skeleton lol gross
>guys don't like sticks
>lol you're whole body is flat how sad
>you look like an 8 year old

gets really fucking old and unfunny especially when it's from people in your family who are morbidly and disgusting obese.

>>7167809
>>7167814
The thing is though - what makes her smaller? My wrist bones are smaller. My neck and head are smaller. My waist was smaller even when I was 125. Right now I'm 28C/22/36, my thighs are 22 across! She's something like 28C/24/30, and her thighs are tiny, around 17 I would guess. It's not hip bones, because I can wear the same belt notch as her. We are as close as you can get in terms of bones, yet she's always smaller and I look like a lardass despite being average weight.

>>7167795
I'm the same way as your friend, I have to eat 3kcal/day to maintain 95lbs and 4-5k to gain weight. If I eat the standard "2000 calorie diet" I'm usually 85~90 at 5'5
Although I'm Irish with a very small frame as well, so I dont know what's up with that. I don't even know where the post is going anymore, I don't understand my body at all...

>>7167826

guy here. the hip-to-waist ratio for 36-23-35 is almost fucking perfect. that's what "curvy" actually means.

>>7167812
Nowhere did I say that I was asspained, but for years I had to deal with the sort of shit that OP explained and I stopped trying to be nice. You can think that I'm a cunt just because I posted something that you don't agree with all that you'd like. I cannot keep being nice to people, complete strangers at that, who attempt to instigate problems with me at college or work or cons simply out of jealousy.

I don't walk around acting entitled despite how cunty I sound in my post. So, when I'm in my college's cafeteria and I fill my tray up with what I can and enjoy eating and I get glares from a table of whales because they're stuck with salads and diet Cokes, yes, I get pissed off. Why? Because I didn't fucking do anything to warrant that.

I did nothing to warrant being harassed on any of the occasions that I have nor did I do anything to warrant being alienated from certain groups and hangouts. If my looks and weight are the sole reasons for this bitchery, then yes, I'm going to be fucking pissed off. Especially when fat people never bothered me in middle school or high school. None of this shit started until I went to college, got a job, and started being able to afford nicer clothes. I've had and STILL HAVE friends who are larger and taller than me. I've been sexually attracted to both men and women who would be classified as "chubby".

So, yes, I AM pissed off. Because despite the precious people in my life who happen to weigh a lot more than I do, it doesn't make up for shit that I get whenever I leave my fucking house and I'm not going to be bullied any longer simply because this country wants to ride the fat acceptance dick.

>>7167839
>say that I was asspained

>wishing suicide and death over a group of people based on a few anecdotal experiences from your end
>not asspained
I don't think you're a cunt, I know you are. I'm really not interested in hearing how you dare rationalize yourself either, I'm just here to inform you that you are indeed a fucked up individual with a highly idiotic perspective.

>>7167842
Asspained over how someone LOOKS. My problem is the fucking attitude and unwarranted self entitlement.

And, that's great, m8. All that you proved to me is that you're not willing to listen to anyone who may be right. And, since you're so pissy, it honestly only leads me to believe that you're another FA whale who is going to screenshot my post, run to Tumblr, and cry wee wee wee all the way home, piggy.

>>7167839
>So, when I'm in my college's cafeteria and I fill my tray up with what I can and enjoy eating and I get glares from a table of whales because they're stuck with salads and diet Cokes, yes,
Different anon but you're being paranoid.

>>7167847
Lady, I don't give a fuck what you think is 'entitled' and what isn't. It's not mentally HEALTHY to think people deserve death because they glared at you and look at you ~funnily~
Even if that were the case grow a spine. If nobody is publicly humiliating you then they can look at you however they want. Why don't you go back to your ana-tumblrs and cry more about how fatties gave you the wrong look and how you hope they go an hero for the better.

I refuse to believe anyone is willingly this ignorant.

So i feel kind of dumb for asking, but what do the 3 numbers stand for? Is it bust, waist and hips size?

>>7167848
It's not paranoia when it's the same group of girls everyday and it has been for over a year now. They're also in one of my clubs and have made passive aggressive remarks.

>>7167831
That's interesting. I know a lot of us Irish get teeny tiny. I'm just the unlucky average one. I can't even call myself pear shaped, because I'm only pear shaped from the side. It's literally only thighs and lower butt fat. I can't even eat 3K calories. I'd get nauseous at about 2.5K. She can eat up to 5K for sure, since she did that giant 5lb burger, 5lb fries challenge at a local eatery. She managed it all, and ate more later in the day.

Mind if I asked how your weight is placed? I'm trying to imagine what I might look like if I get down to 90lbs.

>>7167853
Usually bust waist hips, sometimes it's bra size waist hips, depending if the top size is mainly boob or ribs.

>>7167855
>They're also in one of my clubs and have made passive aggressive remarks.
Further proof that this is some personal bullshit between you and a group of certain individuals that has nothing to do with fat people as a whole, or hell even people who stare at others in public.

>>7167855
These people specifically hate you (and hey, that doesn't sound too difficult to do) and yet you're generalizing body types as a whole?
That's no better than fatties accusing skinny people of all being massive cunts.
You are being hypocritical.

I'm an asian girl at 5'5" 34C/27/39.

I am too fat for asian family and too skinny for average Americans.

Can someone confirm I'm just painfully average, if not thick waisted?

›;_; will never have glorious 25“ waist

>>7167852

not the same person but I want you to kill yourselves so my insurance premiums and gas prices can get a little lower.

I'm sick of paying for your shit.

>>7167858
Oh okay, thanks.

>>7167827
Her race is what makes her smaller.
Different races encompass a different set of characteristics.

Asians tend to be smaller by default because that's how they're built. It could also be that your friend has a faster metabolism, and just because that amount of exercise and calories helped her, doesn't mean it'll help you the same.

You need a diet and exercise according to your own frame and height.

>>7167852
I don't give a shit if you don't think that it's mentally healthy. It isn't mentally healthy for ME to have to experience certain shit. And, guess what? Ignoring things and "growing a spine" are great in theory. What happens when it never works? Because you've clearly never experienced bullying or harassment before. It's mentally healthy for them to tell my friends to bake me cakes so I could look more like a woman? It's mentally healthy to, when asked my measurements, be told that I'll probably be dead within a year from all the purging that I don't even fucking do? I'm sure they're in the right though, right?

I don't forgive and forget, especially if you're trying to make my life hell. What's more, if you're a muffin topping freshman fifteen who is pissed off that all the nights of frat parties and McShits caught up to her.

Do you also tell the pods of whales to just "get over" shit? Because I highly doubt that.

I'm not ignorant just because I don't agree with you. I'm pissed off because I'm tired of being treated as less than a person just because some woman is too lazy or was born with shit genes. I've been harassed and it's even come to a point where I was turned down for jobs for this shit.

The depressing thing is I get this shit at 120lbs, 34/25/38, 5'1 which imo is gently toeing the line into chubby territory, especially with the massive hips and thighs. How skewed are people's perceptions, seriously? I can only imagine how much worse it is for someone so slight.

>>7167856
Huh, I had no idea that a small structure was common amongst Irish people, makes sense though.
I'm pretty similar in terms of weight placement, I definitely have way more in the hip/butt area than up top, though my thighs seem like resistant to fat (which is kind of unfortunate) Something like 28C/22/34. I'd assume if you got down to a similar weight your shape wouldn't change too much?
I definitely wouldn't be able to eat a burger that size, that's pretty damn impressive. I bet anyone who saw that was quite surprised haha

I really hate how /cgl/ treats overweight people.
I mean, sure, obese people who scream "eat a sandwich" at skinny people are complete shitheads, but it's still stupid to say shit like
>>7167782
I'm severely skinny (so much that my parents thought I was anorexic for a while,) but my mother and sister are both fairly overweight, not obese, just overweight. They're into cosplay and stuff, and it just makes me sad to think about what people might be thinking about them, just 'cause they're my family and I care about them, you know? Not all skinny people are anorexic and not all fat people consume only cheeseburgers.
Anyways, back to the point. Screaming "eat a sandwich Mrs. Skin And Bones" to a skinny girl is fucking retarded, and screaming "Cut down on the lardcakes" to a fat person is retarded.
If a fat person wants wear something, despite looking bad, who the fuck cares, it's not like it's hurting you. Skinny people look bad in some cosplays too.

>>7167860
It's personal despite us not interacting within the club because they keep to themselves and nobody else, including the leader and supervising teacher, knows what's wrong. So, how is that bullshit? Furthermore, how is it bullshit when it comes to random bitches at work, school, or when I go out period?

You guys act like people are fucking blind or overly defensive and cannot tell the difference between someone glaring at you with obvious fucking hostility and being in a daze.

>>7167875

you should go to >>>/fit/

>>7167875
k. Where did I say that fat people couldn't wear clothes that flattered their fatness? I could have sworn that all of my posts have been about the condescending attitude.

So. Yeah.

>ITT fat roris getting buttmad when called out on their shit

>>7167870
Did you read the chain of posts? It seems not. "Race" is not a physical object. Our bones are about the same size with me slightly smaller in many cases, we are the same height, I eat much, much less. The argument I was responding to in the first post is that there is no such thing as a metabolism difference. Usually Asians are smaller because their bones are smaller and they do not build muscle as well because they tend toward endomorphs. This is not the case for us, so my argument is that there are metabolic differences.

>>7167884
What.
Why?
>>7167891
>If they kill themselves? Even better. One less oinking, snorting hog mess with her piggy nose and sausage fingers to ugly up the world.
Was what I was talking about.

>>7167874
That's about average for a medium bone build. Slightly small in America, since 'Murrica doesn't understand shorter people can be a lot smaller than taller people.

>feels bad being 38-32-38 at 5'5/165 cm
>feels bad man

I will never ever be rude to someone about their body shape, but goddamn I confess that I am jelly of all of you and your perfect well-defined bodies. Especially with me being an apple shape, it doesn't matter how much weight I lose, I will never have dem hips or dem curves.

>>7167912
Go for waist training. I know a girl who got into it - she's an apple but you'd never have guessed based on how she looks now.

>>7167902
You're forgetting that your family didn't go on a hate crusade against me. I've stated that I have fat friends and have dated fat people (who all acknowledged their weight without being assholes or pity parties about it). My issue is the attitude of the asshole ones.

If I hate someone, they're a cancer to me. If they choose to make their issue with me about weight and appearance, I will use the same logic back and make them feel like an unloved piece of shit. You can't treat people like shit and expect to not get treated like shit in return. If people want to turn a blind eye to the fact that women who feel insecure or less attractive act catty towards those that they feel threatened by, that's on them. I know the shit I'm dealing with and so do my friends, my boyfriend, and the cunts who make the problems.

Whale-chan here. I think it's disgusting to be called out for being thin. There is no reasoning that makes it ok.

But at the same time, from personal experience, I don't think it's okay to harass someone for being fat either. It different if someone is like
>hey girl, I've noticed you put on some weight. Maybe you could start going to the gym with me?

Than

>LOLOLOL fatty fat fucking fatster. Go on a diet or kill yourself.

I think it's the same for you lucky thin ladies.

>hey girl, I'm worried because your getting smaller and smaller. Maybe we could try some new recipes and start lifting?

Than

>LOLOLOL twiggy thin bitch eat a sandwich you're not a twue womyn

>>7167513
>Next time tell them to eat less dick sandwiches.
Dangit anon you woke up my wife when you made me laugh with that shit.

>>7167934
thats really it.
It's not cool to be an ass to people and if you're genuinely worried about a friends weight and how it might be affecting their health there are better ways of going about it than making fun of them

>>7167924
>If people want to turn a blind eye to the fact that women who feel insecure or less attractive act catty towards those that they feel threatened by,

Nobody should be denying that here. It's fucking /cgl/. God knows we've seen some jealous hating up in this bitch.

>>7167904
>Did you read the chain of posts? It seems not. "Race" is not a physical object.
I did.
Where did I say it's a physical object?
Races DO have a different set of characteristics, e.g. the way black people's noses and jaws are built compared to European descents.

>Our bones are about the same size with me slightly smaller in many cases, we are the same height, I eat much, much less.
Which doesn't necessarily mean the amount of food you're ingesting is the right one to begin with, and you're not her.

How do you know your bones are the same size as hers? Did you go with her to a doctor to measure them?

>Usually Asians are smaller because their bones are smaller and they do not build muscle as well because they tend toward endomorphs.
Which has to do with race.

>It could also be that your friend has a faster metabolism...
>...so my argument is that there are metabolic differences.

Which I'm not even disagreeing with so ???????

>>7167934
Yup, this is the sane outlook.

>>7167904
But, you aren't your friend? You two have a completely different set of genetics and a different racial make up. Those things do matter and they're things to take into account.

It comes off as you trying to argue that you two should have the same results even though other factors are present. It's literally as vague as trying to argue that a single treatment for acne treats everyone, no matter their age, diet, race, genetics, etc. Not all acne products can be applied to people's faces and produce the desired effects in the same way that not all diets or exercises can be applied to everyone and expected to work.

If you want to find out what may be causing it, see a nutritionist.

>>7167971
Smells like Tumblr up in this thread.

>>7167980

>I disagree so ur frum tumblr

>>7167958
Nose size is a physical object. Our wrists have the same circumference. Our belt size is the same, and we both have bony hips. Yes, our bones are the same size. You're being contrary on purpose. And as for Doctors - fuck them. They wanted me to weigh 140lbs at 5'6". They even admit my bodyfat percentage is great, yet they mindlessly push me to get fat. 140 would be fat on my bones. I won't ask a doctor for advice, at least not here in 'Murrica.

You said "Her race is what makes her smaller" what physical part of her absorbs the 3000k more calories that she eats than me? Our frames are equal, our heights are the same. She does not exercise if I am not present. I exercise near constantly because a physical job and my own love of exercise.

>>7167975
The results should have some variation, but this is extreme. there's a 40lb difference and a multiple inch difference, and the lighter, smaller one eats double to triple the larger, heavier. This isn't arguing that all acne can be cured the same way. This is arguing that thermodynamics should effect all individuals to some degree.

When I was a teenager, strangers used to always tell me I was too thin.

I specifically remember being at a foodcourt with my friend, when these round 30-40 year old women pointedly said how disgustingly thin/anorexic we were among themselves. I was pretty confused about this because I was only 14 years old so of course I was going to be skinny, plus I ate well. I think people confused me for being older than I was because I was (still am) 5'9.

I know how you feel OP. I personally felt a lot of pressure that I should gain weight to be more 'womanly', my friend even started drinking raw eggs due to other peoples comments. My other friend became really self conscious about eating around other people because of their judgements.

I'm no where near as twiggy these days mind you, though still slender. Congrats on the working out/eating right to get to where you are! I plan on doing the same.

Why does /cgl/, a place full of hateful fatties, not realize that they themselves have posted in threads about shit like JNig and Yaya and wishing death and horrible things upon other cosplayers (and you know that you have, don't even try to play innocent), but when someone else does it for reasons that seem like problems of illegal harassment taking place as opposed to fucking dress up the board turns into muh feelings and muh fat rights central? Because we all know that ya'll are some spiteful bitches. Is the logic "hate everyone who is not a part of /cgl/, but don't call out people who are"? Because it comes off as hypocritical shit.

>>7167980
I don't have a tumblr. Back to /pol/.

>>7167987
All of what you said is explained with

>Her metabolism is better than yours and race does have to do with it.

Whether you like it or not.

>>7167993

pic related

>>7167533
You must look bodacious!

>>7168004
faster*, not better

But yeah, even if you're "the same size" your body works differently.

>>7167987
>what physical part of her absorbs the 3000k more calories that she eats than me?
-her metabolism
-how her hormones and genetic makeup impact said metabolism

>>7168007
>>7168008
You're both agreeing me while also being contrary. That was my entire point. The other anons were saying that metabolism is not real, or only 200kcal either way. That skinny people are overestimating or fat people are underestimating. I'm providing as close as possible proof that this is not always the case.

>>7167684
>the water in the toilet rises
please tell me this actually happens because my laughter here needs to be justified

>>7168013
Oh my fucking God.

Read the reply I gave you before.
I don't know what you're arguing with me about if we're not actually disagreeing.

I've been telling you that metabolisms work differently and you're dismissing it with "hurr but race isn't a physical object durr".

What the other anon and I've been telling you is that both metabolic activity AND race have to do with the fact your friend is smaller than yours, and that even if you "look" the same it doesn't mean you -are- the same.

See a nutritionist so he can build a plan for you or deal with it if you don't want to.

>>7168018
Have another.

>>7167862
take up hula hooping, friend~

>>7168013
How you're body stores fat is comination of things including calories in/out, your metabolism (which for nobody is every so bad the you're naturally fat, bar having hormone disorders or being on medication where weight gain is a side effect), physical activity, the type of food you eat, how frequently and on what sort of schedule you eat, genetics, your stress level and the amount of sleep your getting.

If you're a healthy normal weight then being heavier as in you physically weigh more than someone who is "equivalent" to you boils down to either your genetics or you having more muscle mass

>>7168013
And, you don't seem to get that race and metabolism both matter. Why do you think Asian women never wind up looking like Shaniqua? There's a thing called racial predisposition along with genetic predisposition.

What a coincidence I should come across this thread after work today. I'm super skinny (109lbs at 5'8") and I work retail, and today they sent me to go work in the plus sizes department. A customer actually said to me "i guess they sent you over here to make us feel bad, huh"

>>7168033
Know dat feel, Anon. Know dat feel. Was turned down for a job at a dress shop because when I told them I was a size two they told me that I'd give their customers the wrong idea. The whole interview went great until they asked me if I had ever shopped there and I said they didn't have my size.

Angry bitches, lawl.

>>7167904
Your bone size doesn't sound the same because you said your hip and thigh measurements were larger than hers. There's the difference. If you have a 36 inch hip measurement, and she's only thirty inches, that is very significant.

Hopefully I'm not the only one for this. I work in San Francisco, CA, and live in Oakland, CA. I get called chubby in SF and come home to "Eat a Sandwhich!" At least the people calling my chubby meet me first. I've gotten skeletor type comments on the bus ride home from complete strangers. No one ever says anything or looks when they insult me, but you bet someone screaming put the fork down would draw a lot of attention.

>>7167697
same. i have hourglass and medium sized boobs but if I'm not careful my costumes come out making me look fat and stumpy, and my boobs are really hard to sew around.

>>7168053
Hips are the same - 32in. That's at the beltline, the bony part. The 36in measurement includes my fat ass and thighs, which are bigger. Are knees are the same, our actual hip bones are the same (hence the same belt notch) but I have way more fat despite eating a hell of a lot less.

>>7168013
Also, take into account muscle mass.

What I find annoying is being made fun of for eating healthy.

>>7168062
Isn't muscle smaller? So more muscle should make one person heavier but smaller. That seems to be the opposite here.

SEAGULLS, while you have your tape measures out, please tell me- how wide are your shoulders?
for instance, i'm 5'10" and 36-26-37", and my shoulders are ~39" when measured around my body.
you guys keep talking about having your tiny frames and now the curiosity is killing me. :c

>>7168055
That's a bitch, Anon. It's a shame that so many fatties deny shit like this happening or oh so conveniently don't care. Only when it's their turn to whine about unfair treatment.

We should just "get over it". lel.

I can't believe OP made an entire thread to cry about "skinny bullyingg :[[."
>inb4 fat
I'm skinny, too. I just don't see how fat people, who are obviously jealous, talking shit is meaningful or worthy of a thread.

>>7168067
I have annoyingly broad shoulders for my frame, 37.5". I'm 5' 6" and am 33-26-34. I'm not even a lolita yet but I worry that my football-tier shoulders will prevent me from fitting into brand.

>>7168075
>when shoulder seams are like an inch in from where they should be
i know the feels, and i'm not even talking lolita. at least with your height, long sleeves will probably still reach past your wrists, even with wide shoulders.

>>7168067
Sorry, need some clarification. Are you measuring shoulder to shoulder, or wrapping the tape measure around your shoulders (like how you measure your waist)?

>>7168067
I just had my roomie measure me since I felt safer having someone else do it so I don't fuck up.

14.

>>7168067
My shoulders are also 39 inches, I'm 5'3" and 35-27-38. This is the first time I've measured myself since I gained some weight, now I'm kinda sad.

>>7168083
around, anon. like someone measured you around your shoulders, bust, waist and hips.

>>7168084
Shit, I should probably add that I weigh 110lbs., my height is 5'3, and my measurements are 34-22-36. Hope this helps.

>>7168058
Yeah, but you have a bigger ass and thighs. There's the difference. You're probably genetically predisposed to hold onto fat there more so than she does.

>>7168081
Ugh, this must be awful. Yeah, the shoulder seams are never right and often fabric sits funny because of that.

>>7168083
She was wrapping around like a waist measurement.

>>7168083
I went off of this guide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt_55OzVZOE

>>7168084
i am sorry i wasn't clear enough! eek, i was so confident because the first response was the correct method of measuring..

>>7168067
5'4
36-24-43
about 19in

>>7168067
5'10. 39 inch shoulders. 34-26-41.

At 5'6", 140~ lbs. (And you can be damn sure that none of that is muscle. ;~;)
Shoulder circ 34.5 - Bust 34 - Underbust 28 - Waist 24 - Hips 37.

I have a big head/hands/feet, though. I feel like if I lost the extra chub I'd look weirdly disproportionate.

>>7168095
Mine came out to 14. I had my roomie measure because you typically need someone else to do it. You're measuring width, not circumference. That's why I don't understand why everyone is wrapping when both my roomie and doctors measure shoulder width the same way.

>>7167619
Or are on hormonal birth control. Goddamn this convenience. I've been plateaued for months now in my weight loss. OB confirms that some hormonal birth control can fuck with metabolisms.

>>7168100
Anon, even though I am a Skinny Bitch Cunt Chan, you're probably a hell of a lot nicer than a lot of heavier girls that I've run into and that alone is enough to focus upon.

>>7167741
I hate to get all /fit/ on you, but do some body weight exercises! It will help you tone up and feel better!

>>7168102
i didn't mean the *correct* way, though of course that's what i ended up typing... i'm ashamed.
the reason i asked for circumference was that it's an easier number to compare to the other measurements, that's all.
>>7168100
woooah your hips are actually wider than your shoulders? 40" around your hips/butt really isn't that big, so you must have a really tiny frame!

Fatty here needing some bashing on my measurements - 140 lbs, 5'1", 40-30-39. Thanks for your time.

>>7168100
We have the same measurements and weight except for the waist! Where is it?? I've got thunder thighs, so there's no way you can have thighs bigger than me.

>>7168108

>fucks with metabolism

Woah woah woah back the fuck up, gonna need source on this. In a similar situation, though I just stopped mine. If this is true, I may not get back on. I plateaued as well...

>>7168100
I evny your waist I'm 5'6 and 120lbs but have a 26 inch waist shit sucks. I have a short torso though.
36/26/36 here. People always tell me that I'm too small and need to gain a few pounds.
Even though doctors say this is a perfectly fine weight for my height.

>>7168108
I'm MtF and changing hormonal levels 180 degrees didn't do a damn thing with my metabolism. Fucked with my Tourette's Syndrome something bad didn't do a thing with my metabolism. Guess it's situational.

>>7168160
Huh, can't find an article from a good source.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0013754/
This is the only study I really trust of the ones I just googled and it ended with inconclusive results.

Anyway, in my personal experience and from word of mouth by my OB, I really think that hormonal birth control can fuck with your metabolism.

>>7167862
I have a similar build, few inches off, 5'5" 32C/27/36, and fluctuate between 125-130 lbs. I wouldn't call you thick waisted; at least compared to me you have a better ratio of measurements. I would be a pear if I didn't have linebacker shoulders (39" around for the record...so it kind of balances out...)

I think of myself as average but my friends and coworkers insist that I am skinny. I don't know if they're just trying to flatter me or what, but I also have a feeling that I tend to be overly critical of myself. Like, if I saw someone else with my measurements I would think they look good but because it's my body and I'm looking at it in the mirror I judge it much more harshly (maybe I'm trying to be nice to other people? I dunno).

Anyway, I feel ya on looking too fat for your family. My family has a bunch of hypocrites. Luckily it's just my extended family in Europe that does this, and not my immediate family. Still though, they get offended when I don't want to stuff my face with their wonderful cooking but point out gleefully that I gain weight when I do. :< Like, what do you want from me guys. This shit has to go somewhere (like my butt and belly).

So uh tl;dr, you are probably totally fine. As long as you feel healthy and like what you see don't feel bad.

>>7168164
Just for an example of how genetics and lifestyle can skew this shit:
5'6" 120 lbs 36-29-39, competetive swimmer

>>7168067
Mine are 15" and I'm 5'5, 30/22/34
Another typical place of measurement for body frame is the wrist. mine's 5" for some reason, I feel like there should be XS and XL body frames but I don't know, maybe that's uncommon.

from nlm.nih.gov

Height under 5'2"
Small = wrist size less than 5.5"
Medium = wrist size 5.5" to 5.75"
Large = wrist size over 5.75"
Height 5'2" to 5' 5"
Small = wrist size less than 6"
Medium = wrist size 6" to 6.25"
Large = wrist size over 6.25"
Height over 5' 5"
Small = wrist size less than 6.25"
Medium = wrist size 6.25" to 6.5"
Large = wrist size over 6.5"

>>7167521
>26-40
You aren't fat by any means(just really pear shaped), but I'd hardly call you skinny. Thin sure, at least up top, skinny no, that big of a hip measurement automatically takes you out of skinny unless you have a very tiny waist. 26 is kind of average.

>>7167862
You're definitely fat for being an Asian.

>>7168067
I'm not too sure, I'm 5'8, I'd say I have pretty wide shoulders for a girl, not quite linebacker though.

34-24.5-35 otherwise, I have this weird body shape where my body is pear shaped, but my shoulders are slightly wider than my hips

>>7168216
I actually wouldn't mind have a tad bit large hips.
At least I would have a butt then maybe since my legs are skinny.
I'm sure your body looks better than mine though.
I used to be a gymnast but now I only do it for fun once in a while so I lost a lot of my muscles.

>>7168167
Well biologically you're still technically a male even if your hormones have changed with meds, plus you have no ovaries or uterus so things that affect natural women probably won't affect an MtF the same way.

Estrogen likely makes you look hotter, Estrogen for a natural female usually doesn't change looks very much unless introduced at a young enough age and a high enough level.
(birthcontrol doesn't make you fat, but high enough doses of estrogen can increase hunger. That's why people should take a low dose pill when they can)
Just to note I'm not saying anything negative about you being MtF and would still regard you as female considering you've transitioned/are making an effort to transition even a little bit.

Out of curiosity, for the surgery what do they do with the testicles? I know for the penis they basically turn it inside out and create a hole.
I assume they're removed, but I have no idea.