/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Oh, and for the sake of argument, Dia De Los Muertos counts as halloween, for makeup discussion.

>>Waiting for the creepy Gropey fangirls

But I'm scared of clowns.

>>7163784
Speaking of this image, white facepaint/makeup. I know ben nye is recommended quite a bit but is there any specific way white should be applied compared to other colors? I know shironuri has become popular but I've seen a decent number of bad white facepaint jobs. On the other hand, plenty of clowns, mimes, geisha and such have done white well for centuries.

I'm doing a zombie Alice costume (reusing American Mcgee costume but using a blonde wig, white tights etc cos no one in this hick town will notice)

I really want to get a couple of playing cards and make it look like they've cut into my neck.

What would be the best way of doing this? I thought I could cut the card and fold down an edge and attach it using eyelash adhesive but pretty sure that won't be strong enough for the weight of the card, would I be better off just making a couple of paper cards? Or is there a better way of doing this?

Can latex wounds be coloured/painted with water-based makeup like Snazaroo and Kryolan? It's harder to find creme makeup here.

>>7163815
You know those shitty scars they sell at Walmart?

Cut the card, cut slit into scar, work card into scar, glue it in place, attach scar, blend make up to effect.

>>7163790
I feel the love.

>>7163795
And that is a natural reaction, that evolved from our ancestors as a survival mechanism. Read my pic, and it will explain.

>>7163802
My guide is posted here: >>7139816

>>7163815
You can go with >>7163822's suggestion, or sculpt your own scar out of scar/nose/chin putty. The trick with the latex scars is to use the right tool for the job, in this case spirit gum. Don't cheap out. Its like, $3 for a small bottle with remover.

>>7163820
You are made of, and sweat water. Unless you use a good barrier spray and sealer, it WILL run. Creme or Grease is always better.

>>7163827
Thanks G

I wanna set up some fake wounds for Halloween to make it look like I got the shit beaten out of me (Glasgow grin, severe black eye, deep scratches along a temple, the works). Any tips for making false wounds and general spx makeup for someone who's yet to get a chance to fuck around with liquid latex?

>>7163827
>>7163820 here. Thank you, I'll just have to look into finding some creme stuff then. I've had problems with facepaint allergies in the past, hence sticking to water based, but I'll try getting some Ben Nye to patch-test.

>>7163836
For general scratches, buy some GOOD fake blood (mehron's is great) and get some rigid collodion. Mehron makes that, too.

Apply rigid collodion in shape of scratch, layer it up, dribble a bit of fake blood on. Bam, terrifying realistic-looking bleeding wound.

>>7163843
>rigid
Forever recommend, I LOVE that shit.

>>7163831
Ain't no thang, home skillet.

>>7163836
Its a little short notice to crash course on latex. again scar/chin/nose wax/putty is your go-to.

Roll it up in little "playdough snakes, and blend into your skin for raised scratches. Make two "snakes" and make "lips" pinched together at the ends, and then blend into your skin.

horrible pic related.

>>7163827
See, this is what bothers me. Its not that you are an egotistical drunken douchebag, but it the fact that you are really quite well educated, but you still choose to be a self centered jackass who glorifies living like carnival trash.

Just wanted to let you know.

>>7163859
I love you too?

>>7163859
Why does it bother you? He's obviously ~well educated~ enough to live the life he choose.
He doesn't tell you how to live your life, or try to convince you to be a 'carnival trash', so why are you so bothered?

>>7163897
No. Stop. We're not doing this.

This is not makeup or clown related.

People responding to troll and haters just further derail.

Honk honk.

>>7163883
On topic: Gropey do you happen to have advice on making 'claws'? Not ones that extend only from the nails, but ones that kinda is an extended part of the fingers?
Sorry about the vague description

>>7163910
Well, there are several options. How detailed are we going? What kind of claws? Discribe.

>>7163914
I guess they're generic witch claws? Extend by 1 to 2 inches from my finger tips, I guess I kinda want creepy long fingers.
They don't have to look super detailed or realistic, as I'm running out of time.

>>7163920
AH! Quick and easy would be to get a bunch of the better detailed novely witch fingers, and paint them to match whatever skin tone you wish. From there, you can blend the seams with putty/;latex or wear fingerless gloves to complete the illusion.

Don't get dollartree fingers, Spring for Target or a halloween store.

>>7163931
Thanks!

>>7163790
There never were any. All of them were fatso himself.

>>7163781
Has your ban run out yet?

>>7163945
I havn't been banned in ages.

Now get your tinfoil hat out of here unless you got on topic questions.

>>7163954
As much as I absolutely hate clowns, that looks nice.

>>7163964
Its just another form of art.

For those curious, she blended eyeshadow from one of those huge 30-hue cases over a white clown foundation.

>>7163971
>that hair

Are you dressing up for halloween or a party? Whacha dressing up as?

>>7163989
Well, I was going to do my batman costume for a party and for Nekocon, but I have no idea where my mask is, and I can't walk around the kevlar at the con now, because the cops get edgy.

>>7163996
Longtime fan, first time poster here, and I got a weird question for you.

Any costuming advice for a man planning to perform magic while dressed as a clown? Side question: Will I have to shave off my beard?

Since I'll probably never get this chance ever again: Would you be willing to recommend a thing or two to point me in the right direction as far as professional clowning goes?

>>7163996
The guy reminds me of the clown from the Devils Carnival.

>>7164037
What tricks are you doing? What kind of magic? Floor? Stage? Hand? I need details. What is your usual costume?

The beard will be a hindrance, but its possible to work around. I'd need a pic.

>>7164047
No he dosn't. Not even close. They are both tramp clowns, and that is it. Its like saying all whites/asians/blacks look the same, you just do not have enough personal exposure to notice the difference.

Also: The Devil's Carnival sucked cock.

Pic is my old face.

Reposting a thread I made without reading the catalog

Hello, /cgl/. I've decided that I'm going to crossdress as a feminine clown for Halloween. I'm going full whiteface, but are there any makeup tips/tips to be more cute and feminine you could provide me? Also, has anyone here ever gone as a clown before (male or female) and if so, what was your costume/makeup like?

(Gropey you're my hero when are you gonna dump on /s/ again man those make my week)

>>7164061
It's a walk-around bit, so I'm doing that with a few floor pieces. My usual costume is a black with silver striped button-down with rolled up sleeves, black jeans and a brothel creepers.

I usually go bizarre and creepy, but for this venue I've had to soften myself up a bit. I know it sounds like I'm being an ass, I'm at a bit of a loss here.

As for tricks, I'm doing a balloon swallow, popped and restored balloon doggy, segue into scarf juggling. Silk to rope re-worked for a scarf, linking ropes and finally rope-through-body.

If the beard needs to go, it needs to go. Bizarre doesn't play for shit in this area because people get too creeped out by it/refuse to pay for it (I should be allowed to eat them).

If the beard has to go, so be it.

>>7164061
Auguste seems a bit more approachable to these folks, I think. Kinda fucked up that I have to look at and treat my audience like a bunch of scared deer, but they're sheltered as Hell.

>>7164075
I would say yes, shave, and drop the balloon swallowing. You're not doing any hard prestidigitation, so you should be able to get away with a simple Auguste. Get yourself a cheap, goofy searsucker or carpet weft suit from a thrift shop, and aim for soft colors. Accent with exaggerated but simple things like a gaudy tie, bow tie, suspenders etc.

Feel free to email if this thread dies and you got more questions. This goes for anyone.

>>7164076
Makeup would work in the same way as doing any cross dressing: Highlight feminine lines on your face, and soften masculine features. Dont highlight your chin, round out the cheeks and eyes, etc. Don't be afraid to do simple! Less is more, if you have something that works!

As for choosing your face, try to actually take time and develop something that works for you. There is a start difference between people who put clown makeup on, and people who put a clown face on.

>>7164078
Simple and soft. Again, if I had a picture, I could better help you, but the beard will be a sticking point.

>>7164082
Feminine lines? Do you have examples?

(them dumps tho)

>>7164086
I don't have anything, but it shouldn't be too terribly hard to google something. Again, the facial structure of a woman'f face is different from a mans, The jaw, neck, cheeks and oracular ridge specifically.

check out a trap chan website. Im sure they have detailed guides.

>>7164089
That works, thanks. As for the outfit and wig, do you have any ideas? I know you're quite the fetishist on the topic, any memorable getups from past experiences with girls?

>>7164082
I avoid throwing my photo onto 4chan because... Well, it's 4chan. I have a goatee and moustache combo going, so yeah, it's going to have to go.

Also, does this mean that if I wanted to really show off with my magic, I would have to put on whiteface? Where would you recommend I go to learn more?

>>7164095
Again, we're hitting a wall. Just like Auguste bro in >>7164078, I can't make anything more than general suggestions unless you post a picture.

But general advice is this:

*Most store bought costumes are shit.

*If you can pull off a believable fake bust, don't exaggerate your chest.

*Yarn wigs NEVER look good

*Afros NEVER look good

*Poodle Hair NEVER looks good

*If you get a wig, base it off of how it looks with your face and makeup.

*Avoid too many clashing colors. Figure out a standard color pallet and theme to work with so you look "put together".

*Less is more. You don't need to look like you were date raped by the discount prints at Jo-anne's Fabric.

*Use real clothes. Either from your closet or from a thrift shop. Look at >>7163996, >>7163971, >>7164089 etc: Its all normal clothes, just picked to fit the character.

>>7164099
That girl is divine. Do you have more of her?

>>7164107
That was Pixi? Holy shit.

>>7164103
Of course.

But I am going to go be comatose for a few hours.

I'll check the thread later,

>>7164110
A clown's character grows, just like anyone.

She also was a tramp for a short while. I like her as a blanco better.

>>7164099
Thanks a bunch, Gropey.

>>7164111
I don't know man. She's looking cute as fuck right there. The kind of clown you'd like to go out and have dinner with.

No, but I do wish there was more of a scene/lolita/goth and clown crossover culture, I love that shit.

Remeber, email is always open if you got questions and the thread is gone.

>>7164113
Oh, she's cute, I just have my preference for her whiteface.

Im surprised there is no cross over either!

Gonna go sleep now. Be back later.

>>7164107
Oh gosh, she's so pretty.
I found pic related like two years ago and saved it since then just because it just makes me want to smile.

>>7164116
Saw you at fallout! I got to tip you with the stapler!

>>7164126
Gropey has tons of that girl, she's a Mexican clown I am pretty sure.

You still single mr. clown? Hows that foreveralone working out for you?

>>7163954
>denying it
0/10

You can clearly see it in the archive.

>>7164286
He's been on /tg/ mostly.
what does it matter anyway?

>>7164377
I don't like lying fat people.

>>7164393
Do you like lying thin people?

>>7164286
You mean like how IPs dont match and an anon got permabanned for sending a mod nudes to get his tripcode?

No anon, you are the cancer.

>>7164463
Keep your trip on fatso.

>>7164431
Yes, they're cool.

>>7164464
>Someone disagrees with me, must be the person I dislike
>I'll call him fat because im unhappy with myself

This was a nice thread until you came along.

>>7164471
You didn't disagree with me, you insulted me just because I asked fatso a question he didn't like. No one else would be emotionally engaged enough to say such thing, other than fatso.

>>7164506
Quit drailing the thread please. Hide and ignore, rather than act like the paranoid victim you think you are. You are literally like someone who dislikes gay marriage so you go out of your way to go to gay weddings and tell people how the gays are infecting babies with the homo.

bump

>>7164126
Pretty clown girls are awesome. Talented, pretty clown girls are better. But I'll accommodate those who have different tastes, and throw some clown guys in too.

>>7164127
Awesome! Hope you had fun.

More question's folks?

>>7164580
How many fucking clowns did you fuck?

>>7164107

I never saw this picture of her, going into my collection

>>7164587
Im sure if you put some cute makeup on, gropes would be happy to make you a +1 to his list.

>>7164655
Surely, Gropey has standards.

>>7164763
Could you picture how ego destroying it must be to be rejected by a drunken clown?

>>7164587
I don't honk and tell.

>>7164629
I have more of her if you'd care for it.

>>7164655
Its not just about looks, anon.

>>7164763
I like to think so.

>>7165076

>>7165042
could you put into jpeg how it must be degrading to get so butt rustled over how people want to fuck a drunken clown?

>>7165042
>>7165120
Children. Stop.

You two should makeup and be friends!.

>>7165076
More of her please?

>>7165148
Sure

Imagine bringing a clown home, playing scratch-and-win and finding out that ticket wasn't a winner.
>It's all part of the act.

Do clowns have this brotherhood thing going on, or is that kind of thing reserved for circus groups? Have you ever dealt with clown unions?

>>7165159
I am a member of the Pan- American clown union, but many untrained hobby or birthday clowns don't even know it exists.

Actual, performing clowns and us circus folk in general, tend to have a very supportive, if competitive social base. As a one of my uncles (who married my grandfather's sister) is with the Cole Bros Circus, while my grandfather was Ringling Bros, for example. They will always champion their show, but as fellow circus performers, they will always have eachother's backs.

Seeing how small shows are now, it pays to support each other. That is not to say that I havn't heard stories of hey-day turf disputes between traveling shows for the right to set up shop durring a certain time of year.....And some did turn violent.

Yes, back in the day, circus gang-turf wars. That is long in the past except for the small undergroup troupes that a lot of us run with.

hey gropester, have you ever shown a picture of your typical clown getup?

>>7165176
My old face, in a shitty picture here >>716406, though you can't see my eyes.

I have changed to a white face since that whole self destructive train hopping excursion I took. Much cleaner, more put-together look.

And as before, I am not sharing my face. A clown's face is a very personal thing, and I don't like it being in photographs, to help separate it from who I am while not clowning.

>>7165187
hmm, the link is broken?

bummer, i wanted to draw you

>>7165187
Whoops. >>7164061

Mr. Gropalope sir! How do I introduce the idea of kinky clown time to my BF? I wanna be a cute clown girl but he's awefully vanilla >_>

>>7165188
Should I be worried?

>>7165243
Well, you have an out: Halloween. Do yourself up pretty, and then after a party/candy giving/haunted house whatever, propose the idea of sexy time, while still in costume.

Get him into it. Rock his world, and be sure to enjoy yourself. Make it marathon sex if he's able. Feel open to being a little kinkier than usual. Ask him to do things. Beg. Dirty talk. Or take control, and be gentle, if that is your angle.

Most of all, after its all said and done, while enjoying the afterglow, be honest and frank. Tell him how it made you feel. Did it make you feel pretty? Did it allow you to "let go" a little more? Relationships are built off of trust and honesty, and sometimes you really just need to lay it out there to figure out all the aspects of your compatibility.

Good news! Clown kink is a gateway kink! Non-threatening, playful, and provides the aspect of "otherness"; You're not who you are while you're in face, allowing a bit more comfort in trying new things.

Hope this helps.

Polite self sage.

>>7165260
Also: Pic,

>>7165168
Would you be willing to offer any advice/suggest a place to begin for anyone wanting to learn professional clowning and clowning skills?

>>7165260
Why do I get the feeling there will be tons on clown girls at the /cgl/ halloween party im going to?

>>7165290
And dick to diamonds!

>>7165291
who the fuck has a /cgl/ halloween party?

>>7165300
Obviously the west coast tripfags since that's the sort of thing they would do

>>7165300

lol Chris I'm surprised that you still post on this shitty board

>>7165290
That is a tough one. Aside from finding an independent mentor or going to a clown convention/consortium for classes, the US is pretty barren now.

>>7165291
Because every girl (and some guys) wanna be a pretty clown girl.

>>7165303
Glad to be east coast then. It sounds like a drama bomb.

>>7165300
Whats wrong with that? All it is is a halloween con meetup.

>>7165318
Would books and diligent practice serve as a last-ditch if not replacement, then a learning tool which is better than nothing?

>>7165330
You can get a long way, but you really do need to at least talk to some pros in person. There are some things you just can't learn from books.

Want me to make a list of suggested reading?

>>7165333
If you wouldn't mind, that would be wonderful! Thank you, Gropey.

As a quick aside: I'm considering switching to a major in theater... Would this help me or hurt me, do you think?

>>7165076
>not about looks
Well what if she had a gorgeous, unique, makes-you-feel-fine face, could juggle molotov cocktails, swallow swords, but was a complete bitch. Would you?

>>7165243
You should break up with him and come be with me (please)

>>7165340
I will say this right now, I LAUGH at theater majors. I spend a good chunk of time being hired to talk to theater students about physical comedy, stage and crowd work and the general lifestyle.

If you do not have an "in" and live in a place where you can make a living from it, it is a waste of time. There is very little you can learn from such a class except for stage basics such as blocking and presentation. Its otherwise a waste of time and credits.

Just my two cents.

As for books:

*"The Art of Clowning: More Paths to Your Inner Clown" by Eli Simon. Be sure to get the RED book with "more paths to your inner clown", as that is the revised, expanded seconded edition.

*"Creative Clowning" by Bruice Fife, Tony Blanco and 20 other authors.

*"Clown Jokes and Walkaround Gags" and its sequel, "Son of Clown Jokes and Walkaround Gags" by Ron Burgess

And get yourself a good balloon book. There are tons.

>>7165344
>a complete bitch
Nope. Not even a hate-fuck.

>>7165347

>>7165345
....Im fine, thanks.

>>7165260
Hmm. What about the reverse? I have a maddening clown fetish and would like a lady friend of mine to put on the makeup?

>>7165351
Damn I thought I hit it out of the park with that one. What am I doing wrong

>>7165356
That is much trickier.

First and foremost, how does she feel about clowns? Like-neutral-dislike-terrified?

Anything other than like, and MAYBE neutral, just don't bother.

Dose she cosplay?

>>7165369
Oddly enough, I was with a girl once who hated clowns but loved makeup, and I was able to get her into it. I only ever got pictures though, because the relationship fell to ash before we could actually do anything. This girl in particular doesn't really seem to care much one way or the other. She likes BDSM though, so I assume she has an open mind at the very least.

>>7165373
Try the same as before, but use cute clown pictures to convince her to do a couple's costume with you. She's the cute clown, you're the ringmaster/strongman etc.

From a BDSM angle, smudgy, tear running makeup and a mirror. That should help her get into it.

>>7165347
Thank you very much for the book recommendations. Any particular balloon books you favor? Or am I better off experimenting?

So I'm better off with studying something else and picking up a book on stage basics, then?

I am of that peculiar disposition that possesses the belief that books are good for a person, and can teach an individual anything. This isn't particularly true, but it beats stumbling completely blind.

>>7165380
Balloon and skit books are something that you can never have enough of, and you can cherry pick what works for you.

Study something that you can make a living off of. Clown as a hobby/passion, and wait until you have a solid skill base to work from to try anything more.

>>7165379
Goddamn Gropes, how many pics of these cuties do you have?

>>7165386
DON'T JUDGE ME. YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD!

>>7165388
Is it thousands? Tens of thousands? Where do you even get them? How can I?

>>7165393
He has enough for these threads, obviously.

>>7165393
We'll discuss it after metalocolyps

>>7165413
Oh fuck, I'm missing it!

>>7165413
I see you're a man of exquisite tastes. I'm... missing it, actually

>>7165413
The Dethklokpra!

>>7165421
>>7165423
>>7165436
Well, that was fucking awesome.

Time for more clowns.

>>7165458
Again I must ask; how can I attain a collection as wide and varied as your own?

>>7165461
I just pick it up as I go along. Some are from here. Some are people I know. Some are from tumblr. Some are from the clown and performer forums I frequent.

>>7165463
What about the more erotic/pornographic stuff? I know you have it.

>>7165464
Sadly, not on my phone. Again, clown forums. And then there is all the stuff I can't share on /s/....

>>7165467
Clown forums? People actually share pics of themselves in the buff on professional clown forums?

>>7165471
Two kinds of clowning forums: Professional and kink. The kink ones share clown porn, obviously.

Pics I don't share refers to exes and bennifriends of mine.

Seriously, you're on 4chan. Im surprised there is no clownchan yet.

>>7165475
Oh my.

Would they be able to tell me how to be a sexy clown girl?

>>7165482
I suppose. I'd rather not share the links and have 4chan shit up the boards.

This thread is glorious.

>>7165076
She's so damn pretty... I wish i was this pretty T_T

>>7163781
Okay, clownbro, long time big fan, first time asker. Love your posts, hi .

I am cosplaying from a Franco-Belgian comic where everyone is given big noses as an art style. My nose is pretty big, but not huge. I don't want a nose that's the size as in the comic (turning 2D 3D rarely works imo) but I want a more realistically large nose. Trouble is, I'm no good at using nose putty. It just sticks to me and cracks and makes a horrible mess. Do you have any tips for working with nose putty?

>>7166413
Not the gropester, but I am sure he'll want a pic of the character.

>>7166392
Hey bb, I'm not gropesmascrots but I'll make you feel pretty
>hint hint
>Im not a man baby

went to a burn recently and there's a theme camp (for those that don't know, you can register for big camps that do shows or cook or whatever) with a big dome that people go and have sex in, and there was a gay clown foursome at one point. Makeup, outfits, pie and whipped cream, the whole deal. I'm sad I wasn't able to watch it. Supposedly they were really polite and asked first and cleaned up their mess afterwards.

sage for ot

>>7166392
Who's to say you're not?

>>7166413
What brand, what material and what do you do to prep your face/seal the putty?

>>7166422
Would be nice.

>>7166429
>gropesmascrots
Wut?
>>Im not a man baby
Sexy lesbian clown time? Cool.

>>7166463
I don't want to post the character because they're fairly obscure and I'm doing it as a surprise for a friend who I know reads /cgl/. But the character has a long, skinny nose that just comes straight out of his face. For my purposes, I just want a small, geometric point on the end of my nose, a bit like the one in the pic but less curved.

I tried it with both my usual makeup primer and a bare face. I tried sealing it with face powder.

>>7166463
Forgot the brand! >>7166520
It's Mehron.

>>7166520
>powder.

There is one problem. Say no to powder. Get a combo barrier/sealant spray. This replaces both the primer and the powder, and provides a better seal.

The second question is what is supporting the tip? If there is a lot of putty, you need a bit of thin wire to help support the material weight. Like rebar in concrete.

I want to protect this thread

>>7167688
Protect it from what?

I've saved this photo a few years ago as reference and have made a few attempts at something similar unsuccessfully. I still can't figure out how she got all of the details so crisp and clean. I haven't seen anyone do day of the dead make-up as detailed as this. Could you maybe give me a break down?

>>7168423
Well sharpened, good quality makeup crayons (like ben nye), and layering between coats of sealant.

Read my guide, AND FOLLOW IT. NO SHORTCUTS. >>7139816

I do calavera on myself every year and go clean graves/lay fresh flowers before having a picnic, as is proper.

>>7168472
Thanks Gropey!

Hey, Gropey. Could you do a dump on /s/? It is Halloween afterall.

>>7170361
I highly doubt he'll be on 4chan for the next couple days.

>>7168423
please don't do this I know you think it's artistic and cool but it's offensive please don't

>>7170590
tumblr pls go

>>7170591
shut up im a mexican living in mexico this is really irritating, please don't

>>7170595
YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE!!111

>>7170595
Could you explain why? I really would like to know.

>>7171553
Not the person you're asking, but I think it has something to do with appropriating something which has a reverential/religious connotation, and cheapening it to 'dress up spooky for halloween'. It's meant for honouring the dead/your ancestors, not so people can be alternative and cool.

>>7171553
another mexican, but it personally bothers me when people treat it as a costume for the sake of dressing up and don't care about the cultural connotations/purpose behind it, if that makes sense.

it's sort of similar to why it's offensive to run around wearing "indian" (native american) feather headbands, and why it bothers native americans.

ofc not every mexican or whatever will care (to pre-empt any edgy mexican seagulls) but it's still pretty rude and disrespectful. it's not a costume or fashion statement so please don't wear it as one.

Just met Gropey at nekocon. He's not as date-rapey as I pictured him to be.

>>7171754
He has some genteel southern charm thing going for him. Its kind of sweet.

>>7171754
>>7171794
What is he wearing?

>>7171822
ITT: seagulls plotting to rape a clown

>>7171835
Usually it's the other way around.

Never trust clowns.

>>7171822
Black pants/vest, white ruffly shirt and a leather pirate lookin coat.

>>7171835
Follow your dreams!

>>7171837
Name aside, he's safe. Seagulls can be crazy bitches and one stalked him IRL.

>>7171594
>but then what about clothing and art/design pieces featuring the skulls? I've seen ashtrays, iphone cases, shotglasses and pillows... when something becomes so commercialized it seems weird to dislike face painting.

That said I get why it would be disrespectful, and I'm sure those things are too.

First thing that come to my mind when someone mentions clowns is this thing.

>>7171932
Or this crazy fucker.

Are people getting back into the whole clown thing or is this just one of /cgl's quirks?

Gropey just shot me down in the most polite way. Clown crush on maximum.

>>7171965
>>7171843
>>7171835
>>7171822
This is creepy and you should all feel creepy. Leave the poor guy alone.

>>7172028
Well, 4chan IS a haven for the socially awkward.

>>7172037
The worst part? I met the guy and know that he likes meeting people. He's probably having awesome convos, doing tricks and generally being a bro.

Then he gets home and sees Clownwatch 2013 here, and gets creeped out.

>>7171965
Are you a hambeast?

Wtf /cgl/?

Any recent updates?

>>7163827
What style of clowning do you primarily do? Have you ever done any bouffon?

>>7172058
Not creeped, but a little ashamed.

>>7172994
At home.

>>7173196
American heritage with a little old world classical and Italian buffone and zani mixed in. I focused on buffoonery and pratfall, and was an auguste tramp, recently turned mesto blanco whiteface after a major life changing event.

>>7174350
So how many seagulls tried to get your pants and vice versa?

>>7171835
honestly, I like just fantasizing about it. He's charming, charismatic, and can do my make up. whats not to like?

>>7175840
He's a fat egotistical drunk who gets his jimmies off to picking fights and sick fetishes.

>>7175840
His accent gets really thick when he's excited or been drinking and it was hard to understand him sometimes. It embarassed him and was all sorts of adorable :3

>>7174350
That's cool, I used to do a bit of Pochinko with some streets punks I knew.

>>7175801
I would say most of the girls who made a pass were just doing so to say they did. Only one or two were serious, but I don't do one night stands.

>>7175840
D'awwww. Shucks.

>>7175955
I won't argue against this.

>>7176023
Sorry... Im working on it.

>>7176093
I'll level with you. I, and most professional clowns, HATE HATE HATE the Pochinko Technique, because its self contradicting new age psychobabble.

>>7176132
Really? How so?

>>7176132
What's wrong with Pochinko? I wasn't a big fan but I want nothing more than to hear it torn apart.

>>7176147
Lucky for you, I keep a copy of his published work that we dissected line by line at a workshop during the 2010 north east clown consortium.

The two presenters were clowns (obviously); one was a theatrical anthropologist, and the other a literary psychologist. They pointed out that most of his writing was the same kind of idea reorganization that cult leaders, televangelists and other people who manipulate the impressionable. The most famous example from the Pochinko Technique :

"I do not believe in a story driven by the characters, but a character driven story."

Now, on the surface this sounds very deep and enlightened.

But say it out loud.

Now say it again.

Say it until you can hear the how it means the same thing.

It still uses the face archtypes. It still uses character hierarchy. It still uses linear story progression. It is still American heritage clowning, just without calling any of it what it is. A nose by any other name can still smell, as it were. All he did was take the labels off and claim it was something original, like a Etsy scammer's "antique jewelry".

In the end, he might be the ultimate clown, because he's playing a big joke on a lot of wannabe "artsy" performers.

>>7176167
Cool.

Well now I'm left thinking...did I actually do any kind of clowning at all?

>>7176191
See, here is the deal: Did you portray a conceptualized representation of human condition? Less of a character, and more of an embodiment of an emotion or state of being?

Did you do it in a presentation of absurdity against the casual being?

Then yes, you were clowning.

>>7176203
FFS. This pisses me off more than anything about your ego or fangirls.

You're smart. You're really smart. Why do you still insist on celebrating being a drunken pervert who lives like a hobo?

>>7176220
Just because he's intelligent doesn't mean he has to live his life the way you think is appropriate. Sometimes you have to do what makes you happy.

>>7176220
Because I am a clown.

Honk Honk.

>>7176220

Because intelligent individuals seem to have a population distribution that is characterized as bimodal and fat tailed.

The two primary modes which an actual intellect gravitates towards seem to either be dadaism and nihilism or pure aristotelian eudaimonia and love of logic; the middle ground is a bit rare for the population which we are examining.

I'm surprised that Gropey is still around and doesn't hate the majority of you like I do.

>>7176271
>I'm surprised that Gropey is still around and doesn't hate the majority of you like I do.

Because I have met some genuinely awesome people from here, and have had the humbling knowledge that I have influenced others for the better.

>>7176271

To expand upon what I've been saying, once you delve into the theory and logic behind human emotion, societal composition, and epistemology, either an ideation of an abstract concept occurs or you just simply laugh at everything.

>>7176278

I guess that's the difference between us. You have had more positive experiences whereas I've felt like a stepping stone even though I've been told that I've changed lives for the better.

I've never read your posts before I happened upon this thread but now I regret not meeting you at Nekocon. You seem pretty chill

>>7176289
Drop me an email, and we'll see about getting you to a show. Free ticket.

>>7176291

The notion is more than appreciated and you have my thanks. I'm simply some random passerby who saw some interesting cultural commentary that you've made, that's all.

If we ever happen upon each other at a con, I'm sure we'll have some damn interesting conversations over a few drinks.

I only declined because I have obligations to my jewish overlords

>>7176289
Turn your trip back on gropey.

>>7176306

I'm not Gropey you miserable aspie.

>>7176309
You get used to the tinfoil hats.

Hey Gropey! Any new stories?

bump out of curiosity

Bump for more clown talk.

>>7176440
Sorry, nothing particularly interesting. Just business as usual. Might try and start a kickstarter to buy an abandoned renfair, but that is about it.

>>7177279
Whacha wanna talk about?

Can we talk about eyebrow prosthetics, Gropey? I know crepe wool is generally recommended for facial hair needs, but for anime/game characters with unnaturally colored hair and strange eyebrow shapes like ultra thick ones, weirdly shaped ones (lightningbolt brows seem to be a common one) and heian style brows, what are some other methods for creating or falsifying brows without it just looking like badly drawn-on chola brows?

>>7178101
First thing is first: Covering your eyebrows without ruining them.

The answer is going to sound ridiculously obvious: Eyebrow putty. Also known as eyebrow wax, plastic and caulk.

Essentially a less sticky and dense version of chin/nose putty. Get it in your skin tone. Spread and smooth. Do your makeup as usual. I like Mehron personally, followed by Ben Nye and Kryolan.

It removes with standard stage makeup remover. As I have said in many threads before, I swear by Ben Nye's Remove-it-all.

Con't....

>>7178153
Step the second: The eyebrows.

Here is where its gets tricky.... You have three options, two of which you covered.

*Drawing
*Crepe
*Prosthetic

Prosthetic eyebrows come in two basic forms: Realistic, and not. "Not" would be things like felt, cardboard, etc. Think of rock lee sor the guy from FLCL. Realistic ones need to be made by pros, and can be a little pricey, but are worth every cent when you can get them in almost any style. They apply much like any latex prosthetic.

>>7178219
That looks like a still from the texas chainsaw massacre.

>>7178219
i get the biggest boner watching artist lay hair in eyebrows, beards, mustaches, facial hair in general. it's just like- jesus christ you're everything perfect and right in this world.

>>7179260
Wtf?

>>7179260
no one cares, charms.

not the same anon, but I've been having the hardest time covering my eyebrows. I need to get them completely gone and redraw them on but I'm not about to shave them off. I've tried the method of spirit gumming them down and then using dermawax and foundation but it still looks slightly bumpy.
Any advice?

>>7179744
Are you blind or just stupid?

He just said eyebrow plastic in your skin color.

>>7179911
No anon, it is you who is stupid.
You don't just slap eyebrow putty directly over your brows unless you want to rip out your brows. Dermawax and eyebrow putty are essentially the same thing.

>>7179912
No anon, it is YOU WHO WAS THE STUPID ALL ALONG!!!!1!!!

1: Dermawax and eyebrow putty are NOT ALIKE AT ALL. That is like using shaving cream to top your pie, because its white foam from a can like whipped cream.

2: Yes, you apply it directly on to your eyebrows, and then seal with powder or spray.

3: You use prosthetics remover to remove it. Shocking I know. This keeps it from ripping your eyebrows off.

4: You're mixing adhesives, which cause crystallization, when you use the spirit gum. Aside from the fact you're using the wrong putty, you're mixing chemicals you don't need.

Use the right tool for the job, in this case, eyebrow wax. Use a metal makeup/paint spatula. warm a pea-sized ball of eyebrow putty in your fingers until it is body temp. when you're smoothing it, use a little Vaseline to keep it from sticking to your finger tips. warm the putty with a low hair dryer when needed.

Don't try to cheat, or think you know better than to use the makeup that is designed, and named for the job you want done.

>>7179957
I must be crazy then because I have the kryolan eyebrow plastic and my dermawax and they are absolutely the same thing. Or this kryolan I bought is complete garbage.

>>7179912
You dont put dermawax on facial hair you mouthbreather. It says so on the package.

>>7179965
Did you use prosthetic remover to take it off? Real, pro-grade stuff, following the directions on the package?

And yes, eyebrow wax bonds to itself. Dermal putty bonds to any porous surface, like hair. If you have both eyebrow wax, and dermawax and STILL decided you know better than the makers of the two different chemical mixtures, the you should lose eyebrow privileges.

>>7179972
Sorry, I should have been more concise and less snarky. Removing has been no problem, but I'm still getting the same lumpy results pm application. I had dermawax in my original kit and tried it out and got a less than desirable result. I picked up the eyebrow plastic and ended up with the same result again. No matter which I try my eyebrows still seem to show through, I don't mean the color, but you can see the ridges of the hair and it seems near impossible to get it to appear smooth, and this is all visible from a good few feet of distance.

>>7179981
Again: Knead it well, lightly warm with hairdryer if needed, use Vaseline to keep it from sticking to fingers. Don't be afraid to use more putty. It sounds most like you're not using enough material to cover the area.

>>7179981
Clownbro knows makeup. Never doubt him.

Bump? Is this thread done? Has clownbro abandoned us?

Hope this thread isn't too dead. Gropey, any advice for hooking up with an actual clown? Like, a sideshow girl?

>>7182376
Nah, Im just not hovering over the thread.

>>7182531
Clowns and sideshow performers are seperate acts, but I digress.

Advice? You need to be a circus or vaudeville performer yourself, or be involved in the community in some way. We are very insular and self supporting.

Furthermore, I would not suggest trying to mix a kink you have, with someone who's life revolves around it. Playing a game is fine. Trying to go for a "legitimate" performer just for a hookup and kicks seems shallow and pedantic.

On top of that, I can damn near guarantee you that you couldn't handle a real carney or circus girl. You'd get torn apart like a rival show's poster.

Just my two cents.

>>7182580

Lol I'm not the poster you're referring to but I'm laughing because I say the same shit to dudes who want to dance just so they can get with dancers.

>>7182647
Dancers are almost always an awesome lay.

Then again, I actually used to dance competitions.

>>7182685
Is there anything you can't do?

>>7182769
Sing.
Juggle.
Blow glass.
Paint with watercolors.
Walk on my hands.
Use HTML
Use photoshop
Carve stone.

These are just a few things off the top of my head.

>>7182793
OH! And throw on a potter's wheel.

BANE OF MY FUCKING EXISTENCE IN HIGHSCHOOL.

>>7182793
You can't juggle? What kind of shitty clown are you?

>>7182793
>use HTML
That's probably the easiest to learn, you could pick it up in a week.

>>7182580
It's not just a kink. I love seeing girls perform at circuses, there's just something carnal and beautiful about it. I want to experience being with a girl like that to some extent. It doesn't have to be just sex.

Also, I'm curious as to why you think an outsider would get torn apart?

>>7184394
thats a kink yo

>>7183809
People said the same thing about juggling. I still can't do it.

>>7184394
Like >>7186622 points out.... That is a kink.

And if you have to ask why you couldn't handle a real show girl, picture trying to bed a rule 63 of me. Headbutting and drinking included.

forgot a random pic.

>>7186749
....Do you have a sister? I can work with this.

>>7186774
No. Stop that.

>>7186749
But that sounds great! I love crazy/difficult. Fuck it, I'm gonna get drunk and give it a shot next time the circus blows through town.

Also, I know its a long shot, but have you ever met Rev Mackenzie Moltov? She is so sex.

>>7187276
You, and a hundred other losers who want to hookup with a show girl. Good luck with that. I'll sign you cast.

As for Rev Mackenzie, I met her once in passing, but don't know her personally.

>>7164089
>>7164099
normally clowns freak me the fuck out, but this is super cute.

>>7187675
>you cast

>>7187675
>headbutting
>drinking
Anything else I should know about? Does they bite?

Where did you learn all this shit, Gropey? Just curious.

>>7187694
Good to hear.

>>7187714
*your.

>>7188403
Only if you play your cards right, and have all your shots.

>>7188562
What shit in particular? Anything to do with showmanship is because I come form a circus family. Otherwise, I just like learning and trying new things.

>>7188640
Why did you reject me at nekocon?

Is anyone experienced with water based paints? I'm going to use Mehron Paradise AQ to paint my full face, neck and hands. Will a 0.25oz refill be enough to do this 2-3 times, or do I need to buy more?

>>7188640
>What shit in particular?
The makeup stuff.

>>7188874
post a pic and we'll tell you.

>>7188874
I don't do "hookups", especially with people I just met

>>7188992
Oh god. This again.

Water based makeup is crap in my opinion to start with. Hands and neck makeup are hell to keep makeup on due to high sweat and contact traffic.

Then their are the basics: What was your barrier primer? What was your sealant?

>>7189035
I am a clown, from a circus family. I have worked small-time FX and stage makeup for stage and screen for several years. My mentor also worked doing much bigger FX productions and taught me a lot of latex work.

>>7189422
I'm using water based because they use a MAC water based make up in the official show. I can't get the MAC here, but other costumers say mehron is close. I bought Ben Nye Final Seal on a recommendation.
I just need to know how if a 0.25 oz refill will be enough, or if I should buy two at the same time to save on shipping later.

>>7189559
My answer: Quit throwing your money away on water based makeup.

You might not like it, but you asked.

Also, get a barrier spray to prime your skin with before application. Follow my guide to using barrier and sealant spray (pic related)

>>7189559
>>7189571
BTW, I suggest Mehron Barrier/sealant combo-spray. MAKE SURE ITS THE COMBONATION SPRAY! Its much more robust and will last for days if needed.

See the post >>7166547

>>7188992
So let's just start with Gropey is right about the oil based stuff lasting better and being easier to work with. Follow that up with I have horrible reactions to it and use the water based stuff.

I always get good results with kryolan aquacolor. Other brands are hit or miss, the ben nye water based stuff is the one I can say I've NEVER had good results with.

Depending on the intensity of the color you're going for, you might scrape by with that size make up. It behaves a bit like water color paints, so for stronger color saturation use more. Start with a layer of pale neutral in the same stuff to keep it from dyeing your skin and to get a brighter more even color layer. Let your base dry. Then go for the color, and don't forget you'll need darker and lighter for your highlights and shadows. Assuming you have no makeup you're looking at needing FOUR colors, not just one. You'll want larger sizes for your foundation and primary color, smaller for the highlights and shadows. As with anything else, you'll want to seal it, especially on the hands.

Just want to say I enjoy your threads!

>>7189682
Just say no to water based crap.

>>7190562
Good to hear! I ama amazed this thread is still kicking!

>>7189590
>COMBONATION
Wow, fuck you alcohol. I meant "combination"

>>7191055
Like I said, I use it because I have really sensitive skin and oil based makeups give me trouble. For all-day wear, especially since the person asking wants to do their hands, I don't think it's a good call unless they have problems like I do.

>>7191055
Oh god. Is that picture real?

I always get so depressed reading these threads and all the awesome things you can do with makeup. I have horrible skin allergies and I've found I can't wear body or face paint without my skin itching and stinging all day, followed by a bloated red face and acne for at least a week afterward.

I was given an extremely short list of makeups I can use by my dermatologist, but it's mostly crappy drug store stuff like Wet N' Wild.

>>7171932
Oh my God, whenever I see pictures of Pennywise I always remember the nightmares I had after watching him as a little kid. The horror...

>>7165369
Captain Maggots! <3

>>7163781

How can a boring person dress up a little more as a clown? I went as one on Halloween, but I ended up going to the bar alone and chatting with a guy who had teeth like the pic here. It was alright, we talked about cheese, but it seems like a lackluster way to use the costume. I don't really want to wait until next year to break it out, and I'm super proud of it.
I also am recovering from a broken ankle, and I am physically unable to do anything more than walk a little fast.

Oh! And how does one create a good face? I currently only have lips and eyes down, but I can't figure out what to do in between that area. I'm kind of leaning towards a higher-maintenance prideful character.

>>7191750
Yes. Circus folk are a very tight knit social group. Clowns even more so.

>>7191088
What do you use to prep your skin?

>>7191785
Didn't know who she was until now. Thanks!

>>7191809
Ok, I don't understand the first part of this post.

>how does one create a good face?

By experimenting. Look at the faces of people in pictures showing genuine emotion. Look at other clowns. Keep trying until you find something that evolves naturally to who you are.