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>>7141646

Let's discuss:
> Anyone doing any Homestuck cosplays for Halloween?
> And how about that long gigapause huh

>> No.7151944

>>7151929

>dat gigapause

will we ever see any more half decent cosplay

>> No.7151946

>>7151944
...Probably not. There's always AUs, but those are rarely ever done well, if at all.

>> No.7151974
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I have a feeling that the Gigapause is what's going to be the final sword into the back of the already dying fandom.

>> No.7151994

>>7151974
There's still the game to look forward to, but... still.

Do... people still like Homestuck at this point?

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tag dump

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>>7151974
Nah, the finale will be.
No more new content, and not all the fans are going to be interested in the video game.

As far as the pause, it'll either hype people up to finish things before the end, or will put people off because it's ending.

>> No.7152017

>>7152015
I'm guessing the latter. Something tells me people have lost interest even after the first pause earlier this year (April - June), and throughout the summer, I feel like people were occupied by other things (other fandoms getting popular like Attack on Titan, Free, Dangan Ronpa).

That said, who knows, the video game should have some new content to look forward to as well.

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>>7151994
I don't know about anyone else, but I am! I'm going to cosplay Homestuck long after it ends.

>> No.7152024

>>7151994
I know I'm definitely still pretty into it and intend to continue cosplaying from it, both simple and complicated outfits. Of course, I want to do other things as well, but I consider Homestuck my main interest.

>> No.7152050

>>7152021
I actually didn't even get into until some friends got me to read it this past year, so I'm with you there. Just because something is over, doesn't mean you can't keep making costumes.

Remaking or rewearing old stuff, making costumes for other characters, it's all still fine.

It's going to be bitter sweet when it's over, but cosplay stuff that you love, you know?

>> No.7152053

Do you guys think that once the comic is over, we'd either see less Homestucks at cons, or more hopefully, finally stop being reviled at cons?

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>>7151994
There are obviously people posting in the threads so there's your answer.

Besides, people cosplay from finished series all the time, and I've got plans for Katsu and Sakura that I'm not dropping.

>>7152017
I'm hopeful, but chances are that you're right.

As far as the game goes, even though I threw a pretty penny at it, I'm not too excited for it just because the chances of it focusing on characters I like (on the off-chance he doesn't just make a new cast for the game) is very low.

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>>7152050
Heck yeah! Couldn't say it any better! I have a lot of crappy homestuck costume I want to redo.
I haven't even finish my bingo list!

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>> No.7152108

>>7152094
holy shit, those horns actually look really clean. wish I could say that for the rest of the costume.

>> No.7152111

>>7151929
>>7152004
>>7152007
>>7152067
>>7152094

sauce on any of these? they're all pretty clean. not bad, hsg.

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Dem thighs

>> No.7152143

>>7151929
im probably doing dead aradia this halloween, less shitty version from last halloween

>> No.7152176

>>7152133
What is it with CGL and its obsession with thighs? Off topic but I'm genuinely curious, it's been mentioned in a few of these threads.

>> No.7152179

>>7152176
Nothing wrong with a good pair of legs, but I see what you're getting at.

I think part of it was the JJ thing. I'm not sure on the details, but apparently her thighs used to be a big deal.

>> No.7152181

>>7152176
Shapely ones can be very attractive when paired with a comparatively small waist.
I'd rather take a girl with big delicious thighs and a small waist than a girl with skinny shapeless chicken legs. Thin all over is not ideal.

>> No.7152184

>>7152176
Way for fat chicks to feel attractive.

>> No.7152329

>>7151994
I do. I'm still working on a few more cosplays, and am looking forward to the game. I'm happy all the weebs and fandom-hoppers have left, tbh.

>> No.7152457

>>7152329
Yet, I kind of feel like even though they may have left (and more will probably leave thanks to the gigapause), they still leave their mess and stigma behind.

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Just saw this on the tag. I feel terrible for laughing as hard as I did.

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>>7152494
From the same image set

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>>7152495
and one last one
apologies for the sudden shitspam, but it was almost impossible not to share such gems

>> No.7152499

>>7152494
There is so much I can say but first off, are those horns shooped on?!

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>>7152499
they're in all the other shots, so I'm going to guess no, but I haven't slept in roughly 2 days, so my judgement's not the best

>> No.7152542

>>7152495

>>7152495

What an awkward picture. Solluxes trying to be sexy are missing the point so hard it's sad.

What are your characterization cosplay pet peeves, HSG?

>> No.7152544

>>7152499
I don't think so, the right horn looks to be casting a shadow on her head. Boy are they shitty, though.

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>>7152544
shall I post more? I managed to find the blog of
>pic related
and there's so much bad cosplay it hurts.

>> No.7152573

>>7152546
This is kind of awkwardly cute, because the Sollux looks about twelve.

>> No.7152579

>>7152542
I'm trying to think of some, but they're more of a behaviour thing (like when people act like John, Karkat, or Dave only exist to be "lol super kawaii hot yaoi boyfriends") or I'm not sure if that counts.

Oh, I think I've got one, and it's when people cosplay as Kankri and blow whistles (I'm not even sure where this comes from) or think he's all about #tw: anything. Then there's people who try to make Kankri all about sex. Like... oh no. Like that one guy that cosplayed as "human Kankri" and whipped his dick out for a gif.

>> No.7152582

>>7152579
what. tell me you have the dick-whipping picture
>>7152546
yeah, it's kinda like when little kids get to go swimming with whales or some shit

>> No.7152584

>>7152542
I'm not fully caught up on Homestuck (I can only take it in small bursts), but a friend and I were talking about people making the Striders ~hawt, mysterious sex gods, and we both agreed that they're more likely to be a bunch of awkward dorks, considering the fact that they kind of live alone/with a bunch of bullshit.

>> No.7152586

>>7152582
Unfortunately not, anon. It was posted in one these threads before, though.

Perhaps another anon may have it...

>> No.7152589

>>7152542
There's also Striders in dresses, which many people could have a problem with, especially like if they're in sailor fukus, all done "for teh ironies". Personally, I don't really care, so long as I don't see too many, and preferably, if they were completely deadpan and serious about it.

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>>7152589
About the dresses I see sooooo many people getting overly upset about it, like I understand that you do not see the appeal but jesus christ.
Personally? I don't really care for it, I can see the appeal or at times the humour I guess. I just get sad when the dresses are ill fit or just look cheap and shitty.

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>>7152579
But Kankri's main personality trait is that he's a social justice warrior. He canonically has a whistle in openbound.

The sex thing I agree is really weird and disturbing that so many people are into it. I know exactly what gifs you're talking about and holy shit no. There was a whole set of that I think.

>> No.7152677

>>7152598
the point is that 99% of striders are already failing at passing as a boy and adding a dress to that is just fucking retarded. The 1% is cis guys with no/shitty wigs and they suck too.

Add a dress to an otherwise spot on strider cosplay would be fine

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>>7152677
Yeah that too.

>> No.7152935

>>7152579
>>7152584
>>7152589
This.
It bugs the shit out of me when people turn their complete personalities around and make them sex-addicts, gay or crossdressers. Its one of those digusting tumblr fetishes

>> No.7153016

being gay is a tumblr fetish?

>> No.7153022

>>7153016
I think it's mostly a fandom thing that's been around forever that's happened to find a new home on tumblr.

Basically, I think they idea they are going for is taking characters that have little to no actual evidence of them being interested in the same sex and having them have sloppy makeouts with them anyway. It's usually guys this happens to, and while the trolls are one thing, John and Dave are pretty obviously on the straight side of the line, John having even canonically said so.

>> No.7153093

>>7152457
Yep. Most people still seem to resent us for liking HS, yet they're mostly fine with Dangan Ronpa, SNK, Free!, etc. and that's where all of the horrible weebs and shithead tween SJWs went.

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How to equius teeth

>> No.7153113

>>7153104

Tooth black

>> No.7153114

>>7153104
Toothblack.

>> No.7153137

>>7153093
The funny part is how guilty those fandoms can be of some of the shit they claim to hate the Homestuck fandom for.

Of course they don't have the grey paint scapegoat, but all the AU stuff is just as rampant, and yet they don't complain when it's their fandom.

>> No.7153240

>>7153137
I think that is a pretty big distinction here: a bunch of kids want to cosplay as aliens, cue unsealed grey makeup everywhere and bizarre orange horns that also look bad and all of a sudden we stand out the most, and as one of the worst. It's not as bad when trying to cosplaying as one of the Kids or Guardians but still, you'll probably be around or next to a troll and people may lump you together with them, bad or not.

Kind of makes me wary of greying up for other, non Homestuck cosplays.

>> No.7153253

>>7153093
>>7153137
Yeah, really! With the exception of Free!, I like all of these things and it definitely seems that all of the toxic nonsense has shifted to the latter three fandoms (hate that word) while rolling eyes at homestuck at the same time. I've seen people argue that SNK has the potential to be racially diverse and that all of the Free! guys are Trans* (SERIOUSLY??).... Honestly, if it's spread out over multiple fan bases now and away from HS, things might get a bit better for people with genuine interest in the comic.

>> No.7153317

>>7152494
is this that fucking meulin
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4HrS9zc4UU

>> No.7153325

>>7153317

i never get sick of this video.

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>>7153317
No, the feferi's http://callib-bourne.tumblr.com/
>claims to be trans
>cosplays all female characters with breasts
am I allowed to think they're a cunt because of that?

Meanwhile, check out this awesome Jake English(!)

>> No.7153409

>>7153384
If by trans she meant transtrender then I could see it.
I swear to god all these "genderqueers" who literally don't do shit to differentiate themselves from basic females. Not even bullshit pronoun drama.
Genderqueer is this decade's "~I'm not like other girls~"

>> No.7153458

>>7153384
oh jesus what an unfortunate picture
what an unfortunate everything

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>>7153458
it's beautiful.
it's...beautiful

>>7153409
you'd think tumblr would realise that's actually more sexist than not, but what can you do

(captcha was privilege pecingio. they're fucking on to me)

>> No.7153570

>>7153253
>the Free! guys are Trans*
People are... actually saying this? I haven't seen this. Why would they think that?

As for Attack on Titan, eh, even if I'm tan I still want to cosplay as some of the characters and there shouldn't be anything wrong with others doing so too (so long as you look good) but you should acknowledge that they are mostly European.

>> No.7153813

Hmm

/r/ good Daves that aren't gomugomugodhead. Any time anyone asks for Daves, they get posted, they're good, but there's got to be other decent Daves. There's... got to be.

>> No.7153820

>>7153570
>mostly european

With the exception of Mikasa they're pretty much all european
However, that shouldn't stop anyone from cosplaying AoT. If you're a fan, do it. Even if you're not a specific character and just going along with the uniform.

Unless you're 100% dedicated to accuracy don't let stuff like that hold you back

>> No.7153832

>>7152690
This picture is amazing. Way to own it guy.

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>>7153832
>shitty dress
>shitty wig
>glasses very very wrong

nice to know your definition of 'amazing, anon

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>>7153842
ah fuck

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>>7153813
I have yet to see any good daves, usually they're
>pic related tier

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speaking of shitty daves, does anyone have that compilation of all the horrifying 'sexy dave striders' gifs?

>> No.7154119

>>7153851
There's got to be some out there...

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(this is a davedump in case you didn't get that.)

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>> No.7154148

>>7154143
I really like the shape of the glasses of the Dave closest to the camera. They don't have the bar at the top between the lenses.

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>>7154148
Its a discussion that always interested me, to stay canon to the comic or to the source material?

>> No.7154167

>>7154157
Which one's which, again? Canon being closer to how Dave actually looks in the comic, and the source material being the gold rimmed aviators? Or the other way around?

Either way, I'd opt for how Dave actually looks in the comic, so glasses like >>7154143 . I've read that a good compromise is just to get all black aviator sunglasses, black rims and lenses.

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>>7154167
I usually go with looking good > looking canon. Bridged ones look much better on me, so that's what I would use.
Also I personally prefer source material (aviators) > canon simply because it looks more reasonable as for what a wanna be cool teenager would wear.

>> No.7154185

>>7154167
Image wise, he's always drawn without the bar or any real semblance of them having rims. However, by the written description, they are meant to be an actual pair that Ben Stiller wore during the filming of the remake of Starsky and Hutch, which would have a gold rim and the bar on top.

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This MIGHT just be my favourite kid picture ever.

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Man am I fond of pictures that aren't just showcasing the costume.

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And that's all for now.

>> No.7154222

>>7154213
Interesting concept... very strange execution. Those horns look like antlers.

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Adding a couple more.

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>> No.7154473

>>7151974
It wasn't dying to begin with, we were just losing some of the "extra" fans
you know, the ones that skipped the intermissions and only liked trolls and did all that weird shipping shit that didn't make sense because they didn't read the comic

>> No.7154486

Now that we've had a Dave dump.../r/ing some Johns?

>> No.7154495

>>7154473
Does this mean Homestuck will finally lose the stigma they receive in general, like at cons, or was it a case of the bad fans leaving a mess and leaving for other fandoms (see: Attack on Titan, Free) and leaving it for us to clean up?

>>7154486
Also /r/ing some Johns. I need to see how people style their wigs.

>> No.7154505

>>7154495
Both? Only time will tell.

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And with that I finish my stridump and start an egdump.

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>> No.7154595

>>7154577
Got a source on this? Particular of Rose and Kanaya?

Kanaya looks familiar...

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>> No.7154602

>>7154595
Rose is papayamaryam and Kanaya is mostflogged.

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>> No.7154615

>>7154602
Wait I totally got that Rose wrong, it's cafe-lalonde on deviantart, my bad.

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>>7154615
Aka vintage-aerith. I am really out of it.

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Bonus Jade.

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>>7154143
>mootdave

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How's this look so far? It needs more weathering (and a sash obviously) but other than that it's mostly done.

>> No.7155061

>>7155050
cover up your neck

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>> No.7155065

>>7155061
Already fixed that, I just wasn't able to get another image due to shitty lighting

>> No.7155124

>>7154148
They're all the same guy

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>> No.7155288

>>7154181
You're not allowed to repost Courtney's cosplays without permission, guys!!!! She might report you for copyright infringement because THIS IS AGAINST THE LAW!

On a more serious note, anyone see her little fight with that Vancouver's cosplays blog?

>> No.7155309

>>7155172
Man that is not a good mayor, tragically
How do people even fuck up head wrappings/body wrappings? Other than the obvious body ones
>>7155050

seems to have it down better than this one and they aren't even done yet
I've literally only ever seen like 2 good head warppings

>> No.7155348

>>7154186
the john's wig irritates me, but otherwise this is one of the best I've ever seen, do you have the source?
>>7154242
oh sweet jesus, those wings are gorgeous

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>> No.7155604

>>7155570
She's cute.

>> No.7155606

>>7155604
Top lel.

>> No.7155614

>>7155604
I'm still bothered by the fact that I have seen NO accurately fifties r63 Cronii.
Cronus takes after Elvis in hairdo so a femme Cronus would probably go after Marilyn Monroe or early Birgitte Bardot or even Sandy.
There is just SO LITTLE EFFORT in all these femnus designs ugh.

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>>7155614
(I should probably add that I still feel about would bang/10 about her but that's a different story all together)
pic unrelated.

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>>7155616
would you really

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>>7155631
In that cosplay? Yes.
Pictures continue to be unrelated.

>> No.7155649

>>7155616

that kankri is tiny or that meulin is massive

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>>7155649
I don't know but I really like them.

>> No.7155720

>>7155614
Female Cronus should be rockabilly imo, the personality fits perfectly.

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>>7155720
Yeah I mean Cronus in general is more rockabilly, especially femcronus. And I would settle for that but shit like pic related just makes me angry.

>> No.7155783

>>7155649
The Meulin's pretty big, but the Kankri's also just an average-sized teen girl. So basically, both.

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>>7155614
That got me interested actually. I tried my hardest but I'm so bad at these things. Hairstyle based on this http://www.hdwallpapers3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/marilyn_monroe_by_amirulhafiz-d55o8bc.jpg

And no cigarette because I think she'd use one of those long dainty ones on a stick. Outfit based on the iconic party dress.

What do you guys think?

>> No.7155802

>>7155570
Who is this?

>> No.7155818

>>7155802
that would be CC

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>> No.7155829

>>7152496
>>7152507
>>7152494
im pretty sure this cosplay is of an AU where fef is like a mermaid and sol and kanaya (?) are scientists. Still awful though

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>> No.7155833

>>7155786
Still too simple IMO, I'd give her a bit more curly hair, also perhaps a bit more dressy shirt or a more obvious dress?

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>>7155832

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>>7155833
Hold on, I'll have a bit of fun with the dress.

How's this? Added a sash thing around the waist on my friend's recommendation. Not sure if I should keep the trailing parts or if that's too Rose/Kanaya-y.

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>>7155826
something about that god tier rose's eyes scare me

>> No.7155856

>>7155840
The neckline still isn't ideal if you're trying to emulate the classic White Dress, so I think that throws the whole design off slightly. A dress like that can't really be accurately represented by a sprite edit of a white t-shirt.
(Which is certainly not your fault since you said up front that you're not great at edits.)

Honestly I'd like a more Pink Ladies look for a rule 63 Cronus. That way the attitude of the outfit would be more in line with the 'greaser' theme. A 'Violet Ladies' jacket or something and, hell, she could wear a skirt or pants and have just about any hairstyle as long as it was slightly vintage.

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>>7155840
You don't really know anything about the fifties do you.

Anyways, the safest bet would be going the Grease route and copy something from the Pink Ladies. Otherwise? Something a bit more rockabilly like a sailor style skirt with a halterneck or something.

>> No.7155985

>>7155867
Nope, haven't got a fucking clue. Can't draw my way out of a paper bag either. Just felt like doing it.

>> No.7155997

hey HSG, was anyone else at AAC this weekend?

>> No.7156084

>>7155997
I was. The Homestuck dating game was a joke and obviously run by a staffer who either hates HS, hates dating games or both. Did any drama come out of the con?

>> No.7156471

>>7156084
A Homestuck dating game? I'm curious about that.

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>tfw no qt3.14 nepeta gf

>> No.7156721

>>7156715
Are you the same anon who's been posting this sporadically in the last few threads? Shit's old, son.

>> No.7156732

>>7156721

S-sorry...

>> No.7156761

>>7156620
what is with the filter?

>> No.7156770

So, I realize that my Dirk glasses are pretty see through. Hopefully it won't be so see through indoors. I figure I should get orange eye contacts so that even if you can see my eyes, at least it'll be the right colour. Any suggestions or links? Non prescription I suppose, like I have no trouble seeing so yeah.

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>>7156770
As far as more natural lenses go, pic related used
>http://www.youknowit.com/online-shop/orange-werewolf-crazy-contact-lenses-pair501144.cfm
but recommends
>http://www.youknowit.com/online-shop/twilight-contact-lenses-pair.cfm
instead.

Otherwise the only other option is the solid color orange contacts, which are the furthest from looking natural, as orange just isn't a popular contact color.

>> No.7156854

>>7156847
I like the look of the second pair, Anon. Thank you for the link.

>> No.7157002

>>7156471
It was your basic anime dating game format but each round was for a different quadrant. Cute idea but they also did weird things like letting the bachelors ask questions and then rushing through the last rounds because the staff member host wanted to gtfo of there.

>> No.7157015

Did anyone in HSG happen to make it to FAN:dom Con?

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>> No.7157454

new thread?

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>>7157454
what the fuck no?

>> No.7157485

>>7155288
Wait, what happened?

>> No.7157637

>>7155828
I kinda like butt-chin Aradia.

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>> No.7157760

>>7157756
i might be able to excuse the ridiculous dark grey this person used if they only did it once, but holy shit how many costumes is this now? three?
they just legitimately don't seem to care

>> No.7157764

>>7157760

they say it's "headcanon"

>> No.7157771

>>7157760

isn't it just the signless 6 or 7 different times?

>> No.7157777

>>7157760
It's really annoying because I've met them before and they seem pretty nice. They have potential but they waste it on different hot topic versions of the signless. And their paint is always shitty for all the Vantas's

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>>7157771
Karkat too but mostly Signless.

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>> No.7157861

>>7157778

that nepeta though.

>> No.7157885

>>7157861
oh you poor thing
you haven't seen the entire group have you

>> No.7157896

>>7157396
Humina humina.

>> No.7157932

Alright, so

I'm thinking of cosplaying Link (Hero of Time incarnation, N64 era), but I wanted to be lazy and also use the same wig for Dave Strider.

Are there any such wigs that would help me out with that, or am I better off just getting two different wigs?

>> No.7157960

>>7157932
Didn't you already ask this? Link's hair is a lot longer than Dave's in the front. So you're going to need to get either a short Link wig or a long Dave wig. Maybe you can do something with brushing the long pieces toward the back of your head if it's got a skin top, but they're very different styles.

>> No.7157961

>>7157760
i fucking hate the signless so much, they are like nigger vantas

>> No.7157964

>>7157960
I asked before and didn't get a response so I figure I could ask again.

But, hm, maybe I would be better off just getting two different wigs, I thought I'd be able to use one for both.

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>> No.7157969

>>7157964
just get two wigs if you have the money, it means less stress when styling in the long run.

>> No.7157973

>>7157969
I do need a new Dave wig, though. As for Link I'll ask in another thread since that's not HS. Any suggestions for a Dave wig though? Hoping to only spend $20.00 to $30.00 or so, maybe $35.00 if it would really be worth it.

>> No.7157980

>>7157973
someone link the durarara wig everyone always suggests

>> No.7157989

So I went to a relatively small con this past weekend, and the whole cosplay market was saturated with you retarded homestuck fucks. Each costume was as shitty and half-assed as the last, and a good half of you faggots were dressed as fruit-trolls? Like what the fuck is that shit about?

Your cosplays are cancer. Just stop already, you all look fucking atrocious.

>> No.7157991

Where can I get a Cronus wig that does not require weaving hair through lace a strand at a time to make the front? if not, is there an easier way to do it?

>> No.7157995

>>7157989
Cool story bro.

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>>7157989

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>>7157991
http://arda-wigs.com/products/cady

>> No.7158008

>>7158002
that requires weaving hair into the front.

>> No.7158012

>>7152007
>>7152013
>>7152021
>>7152546
>>7153562
>>7154123
LOLOLO!!!!!!! LOOK AT ALL THESE QUADRANTS GOING ON!!!!!!!!!11 how hilarious are we??? us homestuck fans, huh? us homestuck fans.

>>7157778
>fatpeta

faggots

>> No.7158014

>>7157965
morbidlyobeseadventures

>tumblr.jpg

sounds about right for this shitty fandom

>> No.7158019

>>7158008
just get colored bang clips.

>> No.7158020

>>7157396
this costume and anyone calling it great are the reasons why homestuck cosplay is cancer. this outfit on that ambiguous looking character aren't even shown IN THE COMIC but slap black lipstick or gray body paint on any fucktard and call it homestuck, and idiots flock to it like flies to a turd party.

>> No.7158023

>>7155826
collectively they weigh more than the green sun!!!!111 lololo

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>>7158020
It's from fanart, calm the fuck down?

>> No.7158033

>>7158026
It's an obvious troll, obviously.

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aw trollanon surely you can do better than that

>> No.7158035

>>7154688
original characters!!! do not steal!!!!!

>> No.7158039

>>7154624
lmao that 40 year old dude in the left corner

what a fucking tragedy

>> No.7158047

>>7158026
oh so it's an even more retarded cosplay from an irrelevant source than the actual source material. good to know!

>> No.7158045
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I mean there's plenty of disgusting homstuck that isn't the poorly constructed first costume of 14 year old tumblaboos

>> No.7158050

>>7158045
the fact that the majority of the images being posted here have a tumblr filename is indicative of just how faggoty and awful homestuck and homstuck cosplayers are. stop attending conventions and continue to draw shitty fantrolls.

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Lot of trolls in here tonight. Either that or just one massively butthurt anon.

>>7158002
I'm confused, are you cosplaying Cronus or Eridan? That wig already comes with a lace front so if it's Cronus you'd be done after a little styling.

>> No.7158055

ITT: Old man continues to yell at cloud. Samefags himself repeatedly in his rage.

>> No.7158061

>>7158057
Except meant to reply to >>7158008

>> No.7158058

>>7152494
this better be the worlds worst shoop or this person is a real bitch. i bet the fucking hotel staff had a long night cleaning that awful bodypaint out of the pool otherwise.

>> No.7158059

>>7158050
u mad?

>> No.7158064

>>7152133
OH LOOK, A PRIME EXAMPLE OF JUST PUTTING ON LIPSTICK OR GRAY BODYPAINT AND CALLING IT HOMESTUCK. WHAT AN AMAZING COSTUME, I WILL APPLAUD ACCORDINGLY

>> No.7158065
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since mocking little kids is pretty much the lowest hanging fruit available

my kingdom for a troll who puts in a little effort in here

>> No.7158066

>>7158037
oh god please tell me this was staged

>> No.7158067

>>7152094
what the fuck is she cosplaying? a field goal?

>> No.7158068

>>7158065
They'll get bored soon enough. In the meantime, I think their assmad is hilarious.

>> No.7158070

>>7158057
Just one rectum raged anon, probably. They'll stop shitting up the thread soon enough.

>> No.7158071

>>7158065
>mocking little kids
>average homestuck reader is in their late teens/early 20s

pretty sure i'm mocking the correct demographic. it's even more abominable that grown fucking adults buy into this shit.

>> No.7158078

>>7158064
dude, that's a canon outfit. if you actually read the comic you'd know about the dreambubble roller derby meenah set up.

>> No.7158073
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>>7158065
I'm always amused when trolls come in here and continuously bump the thread back up to the first page. We were pretty inactive earlier, and now everyone is back in the thread and posting.

Nice job, keep up the good work.

>> No.7158080

>>7151974
>pictures all taken at an angle

gee i wonder how many chins shes hiding

>> No.7158085

>>7152004
the bigness of her shades will not hide her debilitating case of acne

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>>7158071

>late teens
>grown adults

honey maybe it's getting late for you

>> No.7158086
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this is the most activity we've seen in days. thx anon, we owe it all to u

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>>7158078
Seriously they keep dropping references like they've actually read the comic but if they didn't get to the roller derby match and fancy dreamer ball they must've given up pretty early.

>> No.7158090

>>7152015
what's great about photos like these is that at conventions, you see these dipshits flopping around like morons in front of huge groups of people, trying to get the perfect "hilarious" photo to show the internet. the unfunny awkwardness really translates well through the lens.

>> No.7158091

>>7158071

Then what pray tell, is a well adjusted adult such as yourself doing posting on cgl? Or 4chan for that matter?

>> No.7158095
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So I guess for now we just sit back with popped corn and let the tushy troubled anon throw a fit, bump the thread for a while, then they go to sleep...

Then we continue with discussion and other things.

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>>7158091

>/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL
>cosplay thread

I wonder.

>> No.7158096

>>7158091
what a scathing and original observation. babbys first confrontation.

>> No.7158097
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>>7158088
it's annoying as fuck. yeah, ministrife, the derby, and the ball and all of that crap is complete filler but it's all worth it when people who've never read the comic storm into these threads.

pic related. I really wish rose wore this instead of that stupid flapper dress.

>> No.7158104

>>7152007
OMG SO KAWAII my feels, i can't, my ability tucan has flown away!!!!!1

>> No.7158105

>>7158104
Sorry about the loss of your Ability Toucan. It sounds like a rare specimen indeed.

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do you think anon wants to take us out on a candelit hate date?

>> No.7158108

>>7154572
hurr durr im prankster dave, i am a girl very poorly passing as a guy, hurr durr durr please yaoi with me.

>> No.7158113

>>7158110
I think they really want to, but they're too tsundere to admit it to us.

>> No.7158111

>>7154587
DAT ACNE

>> No.7158112

>>7158078
>>7158088
>>7158097

requesting more from the later acts filler

>> No.7158117

>>7158086
>this is the most activity we've seen in days
>fat homestuck cosplayers abound

no shit, sherlock

>> No.7158120
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>>7158112
got u covered
I'm so happy the kids had enough grist to modify their outfits one last time.
has anyone cosplayed that lion king reference scene?

>> No.7158124

>>7158045
oh cool, so i guess you can just wear anything you find at a sex shop, slap on a wig, put on black lipstick, and call it homestuck cosplay

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>>7158104

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>>7158097
Well they didn't even get to the fruit and veggie trolls judging by >>7157989 and that shit's only in act five.

And seconded on the Rose thing. I like the shorter version too? (pic related) Hussie gave everyone way too many choices but then used the most boring versions for the regular outfits.

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dumping ballgowns

>> No.7158132
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quality homestuck cosplay!!!

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>> No.7158136
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>>7158131
>eridan not wearing the bedazzled eyepatch

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>>7158128
holy shit, I haven't seen that picture before. who's the cosplayer?

>>7158120

>> No.7158142
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you know, i'm actually more forgiving toward the really shitty homestuck cosplayers. these people atleast own the terribleness of the comic in their own special way by reflecting it in their shitty costumes. but the majority of photos in this thread are from retards who take this shit so seriously.

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>> No.7158147
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>>7158057
I don't have a picture on hand, but anyone who does Cronus with that wig without weaving hair into the front looks like shit. It's very helmet like and unnatural. Cronus has a widow's peak.

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hamstuck

>> No.7158154
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>>7158136
That's a shame, man, that's my favorite version of the costume. Has anyone ever done Vriska's matching bedazzled arm?

>> No.7158155
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>gray make up
>black lipstick
>horns
>outfit from hot topic
>homestuck cosplay

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>>7158154
I don't think so. the closest we've come is partyrockstuck and partyrockstuck is...well, it's shit.

>> No.7158163
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hamzee cosplay!!!!!!

>> No.7158165

>>7158147

it's more about trimming the wig down, actually. the fiber in the front hairline is way too long and slicks back really poorly -- I'd suggest razoring some of the front to get more body to fix the helmet issue. the hairline itself isn't too bad if you deal with the weird fiber densities.

>> No.7158170

>hey TROLL we as homestuck cosplayers demand to be taken seriously, we're just trying to have fun here
>willfully ignores that this video exists

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyFXNMVbO5Q

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>>7158154
I've thought about making her bedazzled arm, but think about how much time that shit would take.

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>>7158162

it's because nobody follows the canon colors for the partyrockstuck designs. too bad, they could be cute.

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>>7158147
If you want to add a widow's peak your only option is to ventilate it. Adding fiber in any other way would look weird. >>7158165 has it right about trimming down the Cady though, it's way too thick on its own.

>>7158182
You'd have to use foam instead of the painted armsock method too. I'd like to see a full bedazzled group one day. Does anyone have the photo of that Eridan with the bedazzled horns? Google is failing me.

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>>7158186
eh, I disagree. they're kind of garish imo
pic related could have done much, much better though.

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>>7158192

they're garish but that's part of the point. if it's not your thing it's not going to be your thing

the color matching in that pic is awful. color fidelity is so important, I don't know why people give it up

>> No.7158212

>>7158140
its miwafwakes

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>>7158209
Yeah the fact that Kanaya is in purple and Terezi is in pink is confusing the shit out of me. The crappy horns aren't helping either.

>> No.7158267

>>7156761
it's called the Australian peak day sun

>> No.7158305

>>7158216
This seriously is the furthest thing from homestuck cosplay

>> No.7158426

>>7158147
You don't get away from the widows peak if you want to stay canon. Ventilating takes a lot of time but is worth it in the end, you can also cut away lace from the wig to create a hairline, check youtube for that.
Though I wouldn't recommend it as if you fuck up then tough luck son.

>> No.7158429

>>7158165
Getting a helmet head isn't too hugely of a problem for Cronus though because the pomp should be pertruding enough that it isn't a problem. You will want to exaggregate it a lot in comparsion to what a real pomp would look like though.

>> No.7158547

>>7158086
this john's wig is beautiful! do you have the source?

>> No.7158560
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This is apparently gamzee and kurloz.

from our little one day local con on saturday
initially i was bummed that i missed out on the homestuck meet, but after seeing this photo, im fucking happy.

I had way more fun signing people up for the tournements, being in the cosplay contest, and playin some yugiohs/trading cards. i met some cool bros.

>> No.7158739

>>7158547
Source is crowmunist. They're one of my favorite Johns.

>> No.7158959

So... I need a Dave wig suggestion, not the Durarara one that everyone always suggests. Willing to spend $30.00 at most.

>> No.7159016

>>7158959
Arda's Derek in Dark ash blonde, seems like it would look nice with a little styling.

>> No.7159019

>>7159016
Dark Ash Blonde? I thought lighter colours would fit Dave more, like just regular Ash Blonde instead.

>> No.7159024

>>7158959
>>7159016
Derek owner here, the bangs are very long so you'll probably need to trim them. I'd go for a shorter ebay wig instead, Arda wigs are almost too thick for characters like Dave who have short sleek hair.

>> No.7159213

more cosplay?

>> No.7159240
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>>7158959
Found this on Arda Wigs' tumblr, it's a Derek.
>I think of Dave’s hair and being wispy and very soft, so I wanted the wig to look that way too. I shampooed and conditioned it several times, blow-dried it, flat ironed the back, and trimmed it up in places where the cut wefts looked just a little too even.

>> No.7159244

>>7159240
i like how they think that shampooing and conditioning a wig makes any real difference to the texture
wigs are fucking plastic, shampooing and conditioning them makes no difference whatsoever and their wig still looks like it's right out of the bag
top kek

>> No.7159254

>>7159240
Isn't that kitty-maru?

>>7159244
Shampooing and conditioning does make a difference if the wig is dirty or tangled. I've never heard of doing it to a new wig though.

>> No.7159253

>>7158073
>an actual quality genderbend

I think I'm in love.

>> No.7159312

>>7158066
Obviously.

>> No.7159314

>>7158039
Seriously how old are you kids? He looks around 20. That's what grown-ass men look like, faggot.

>> No.7159326

>>7158066
Yeah, it was staged, I was there.

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/r/ real couples who cosplay homestuck

>> No.7159383

>>7159377
who the fuck even cares? wahh wahh muh couples

>> No.7159391

>>7159377
hell I can grab a pic of two people if you want and call them a couple

>> No.7159405

>>7159377
this fandom is too shitty for love

>> No.7159411

>>7159383
>>7159391
>>7159405

Wow, someone sounds a bit bitter. If done well, couple costumes can be cute. And, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to have someone special to cosplay couples with in the future.

On another note, we are in auto-sage. Just a heads up.

>> No.7159421

>>7159411
Yeah, couples cosplay is cute. I don't understand the r/ for actual couples being couples. And chances are you won't be coupling with that couple so you won't be a couple so stop looking to couple up with couples.

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>>7159377
Dei-sandvich and Kisbe are married aren't they? Aside from those two and the Cowbutt girls that's all I can think of. Sorry, anon.

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>>7159377

>> No.7159484
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>"I was trying to make a gif and then my dad came into my room all of a sudden and yelled 'Do you want some cake?!'"
>"I was so terrified oh my god no dad I don’t want it I’m trying to be cool on the internet"

>> No.7159649

Is it time for a new thread?

>> No.7159677

>>7159484
I am so tired of these. They're worse than faunstuck at this point.

>> No.7159830

>>7159484
Why does all the annoying shit come from tumblr? For fucks sake, flowercrowns, faunstuck, and now this off camera bull and everyone gobbles this shitup and believes it

>> No.7159884

New thread:
>>7159882