/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I feel like the ban of singling out cosplayers was a good rule, but I miss the drama.

>What do you feel has been the biggest change to the board thus far?

Tripfag purging?
SRS janitor?
"No dramu" rule actually enforced?

>>7137113
>What do you feel has been the biggest change to the board thus far?

Basically, the fact that your picture is barely related. I feel that when the drama was stripped away, so was a large part of the board culture. It's become increasingly more difficult to speak our minds about anything with even a hint of negativity, mostly because the lack of over drama seems to have attracted a very sensitive sort. (Seriously, we had whiteknights before obviously but someone is honestly trying to whitenight a person who was proved to be committing medical fraud, wtf) and I feel like the term vendetta-chan is thrown around more and more frequently because a sheer lack of understanding how the board used to operate.

I have a problem with this, not because I like drama, but because the site is supposed to allow a kind of free expression that other similar sites don't offer. And pulling out board-related drama isn't conducive to that. Plus the janitor/mod seems to just delete things based on personal preference, leaving troll and spam threads around for days(and even necroing them in some cases) and deleting relevant and even helpful threads(seriously, the fucking gijinka thread got deleted) Anyways, I really feel like the brash, in your face, bluntness that I loved about us is sort of melting away, like an office worker's dreams of becoming a punk rock star. Maybe we'll get used to it eventually, but as it dies it's really hard to let go of.

I think the janitor here is absolutely awful. He/she/it is pretty arbitrary in what they remove as "off-topic" abd hand out bans when really, they shouldn't. I got banned as impersonating someone to flame them once for self-posting in a thread where self-posting was allowed. Wtf? I think they're too emotionally invested in cosplay to do a good job, and basically only removes the things that trigger them.

I miss NeoClassicNeko, Asherbee, and PT.

It's a lot more lolita now.
The cosplay threads are pretty helpful now.
It's a lot more on topic now.
I'm glad the drama is gone.

>>7137136

Not to mention he doesn't really purge the obvious /r9k/ troll threads to bait women. At least when there were 2-3 very active dramu threads at a time it sort of drowned those threads out. And despite not really identifying as feminist, I find those threads annoying as fuck.

It's mainly our fault for keeping them going though. Stop feeding the trolls guys.

>>7137136
they're emotionally unstable and removes almost everything because of this

>>7137127
>but because the site is supposed to allow a kind of free expression that other similar sites don't offer.

This is probably the worst about the new rules. For how the board has become, I might as well be on any other forum. I'll admit to missing the general dramu. Every other thread being about PT or Kooter or Jnig was hella annoying, but now it's just boring. I came to /cgl/ for entertainment, as well as actual useful help. I'm still getting the help, but that's it. I'll visit a help thread, read for about five minutes, then go off to a different, more entertaining board. If I'm lucky enough to catch an actual entertaining thread, you can bet it'll be pruned of about half the comments within the next few days. The janitor is picking and choosing the type of things to keep, and trying to make the board more 'friendly.' Getting rid of the blatant troll posts is good, but, damn, if I wanted a constant hugbox, I'd go to Tumblr.

I just think it's such a shame that we have no means to communicate with the janitor in order to sort out what is and what isn't allowed.

I know that when moot implemented all of these changes it was because the board was getting out of control, but I don't think that he would approve of most of the janitor/mods decision. The no drama rule has essentially turned into a "no not playing nice" rule, and I hardly think that this is what moot originally intended, but is rather the product of our janitor/mods personal preference of the board.

You go to any other board on 4chan and every single one is allowed their board drama threads allowed to go unscathed, but no /cgl/, and for that I am very resentful.

I know I'm not the only one who used to make a habit of coming here every day, but that's been drastically reduced to once every week/two weeks.

I think what would make everybody happy would be if we were allowed to have regular drama general threads that encompassed all the drama, as opposed to multiple threads involving various different dramas. But no, we can't even have that. It's ridiculous.

>>7137171
I think this was well said.

What's troublesome though is that some of the drama threads stay because they're masked in a "huehue it's about cosplay I am just posting Jnigger because she is a cosplayer~~~" even though it's super obviously a bait thread.

People gripe about the janitor all the time and we all know that she sees it. I just wish she would take some initiative and change her pruning methods. You can still follow the no dramu rule without being so touchy about everything. You can also follow the no dramu rule and be more proactive when you know it's obviously a drama thread, even if it's masked. (ie the /r9k/ JNigri threads.) Also, she deleted the gijinka thread? What? How does deleting that even reflect the rules?

I feel like we don't have enough generic idea dump threads. I want to be able to see more than /just/ cosplay and lolita. I want to be able to see things that inspire you to do this and that, even though it isn't strictly lolita or cosplay itself.

I miss the dramu threads, but aside from the overly touchy janitor, the board is still alright. I'm not a fan of the constant hugbox, though, as >>7137146 said. I don't like how sensitive everyone is.

I don't really have much to say other than what has already been said. Just saying, hey janitor, you know a bunch of people dislike what you're doing. You can still uphold the rules without deleting every little thing that you personally dislike. If you can't separate your personal opinions from the work you're doing, maybe you shouldn't be the janitor.

>>7137144

I was going to say anything that triggers they're obviously fragile mind, but didn't want to be mean, but yes. This IS the vibe I'm getting. I think that the janitor may be someone who might be trying to prove themselves through this job, or actually have a personal stake in some of the drama on here.

In before this thread gets deleted.

>>7137136
Exhibit fucking A, pic related.

They go nuts if you call them a bad janitor, expect to be banned.

>>7137211

That's really wrong. Is there a way contact moot about this and get the janitor removed?

while we're weighing in, yes, we need atleast one drama thread where we can talk about any and all drama related stuff. So that way we still have a voice, but not too many drama threads to bog down the board.

The janitor has ruined this board. When any old dramu gets brought up people are too afraid to say anything bad. 4chan is not about censoring opinions and cgl is the only board left that has such strict ban rules.

I miss the old cgl so much ...

In the confession thread, someone admitted to making popular threads then deleting them to rustle jimmies and blame it on the mod.

>>7137212
Maybe if more people complain? I think he ignores emails from me because I was wingeing about the timer.
He's got a whole 4chan, one person complaining from /cgl/ isn't all that demanding.

>>7137211
You don't have to censure the fact that Volpin had an affair with multiple women. It's okay, we all know.

>>7137216
Moot actually reads every single email he receives. I'm serious.

>>7137219
Then I'll probably get on that. I've complained about the janitor before, but I thought maybe I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and was the on the receiving end of them having a bad day.

But then again, personal issues shouldn't be a factor in their decisions anyway.

This place is just boring. It's a nice place to talk about cosplay, get ideas, and advice but there's nothing that keeps me coming here for more than that. It is safer to post more personal pictures and such now than it was in the past, but I'm not gonna post my pics on the internet without expecting the worst case scenario already.

Basically there's no community now, it's just like anywhere else on the internet and not what I'd originally come here for.

>>7137234
This forever. The community that this board used to be is pretty dead, and most of it is because not only was the drama senseless, but it just became straight up unproductive as a board. Less about costumes and just more about everyone just trying to troll eachother over nothing clever.

Personally the only thing that would be a great change/revert is productivity towards cosplay or even image dumps of cosplays for series and such. The content of cosplay is still here, but there's less to do about board user interaction and production.

Anyone remember cosplay power hour? Closet cosplay threads? It'd be cool to see a real driven /cgl/ again.

>>7137211
>Censoring the posts
>leaving the post numbers in

The people who are happy with /cgl/ aren't the ones complaining, obviously. I for one really like the way /cgl/ is now. Off-topic bullshit should be deleted, like 70 posts in the progress thread about weight loss after some trolls called a trip fat?? There are other outlets for gossip, this isn't /drama/ and thank god for that. I'm really glad moot made the changes he did, and honestly my only complaints with the janitor are that they don't delete stupid shit fast enough. When it stays up for awhile people just think they're entitled to keep posting it even though everyone knows it breaks the rules. My habits of visiting /cgl/ haven't changed at all since the recent changes, but now I get constructive advice on my costumes instead of being called too fat, too skinny, too ugly, too photoshopped- stuff that I can actually improve from. Now I can go to threads on progress, j-fashion, lolita, or whatever else and scroll through reading interesting things instead of just skipping a bunch of unrelated vendetta posts.

I haven't noticed this as much recently, but people used to complain "Why is it that every time a thread with jnig or pt get deleted immediately?" when the problem is that every damn poster takes the bait. If we could post "controversial" cosplayers without it turning into a shitfest then it wouldn't be an issue. The problem is with the users, not the rules- but I'm much happier with things the way they are now than /cgl/ before with 0 moderation. I know I'm not alone in this since I know so many people who wouldn't touch cgl before and now seem to frequent it.

Sorry for my awful grammar.

I do not like when sexual cosplay pictures are deleted
Not nudes, but semi or implied nudes

This should be acceptable

>>7137247
Has it ever occurred to you that there are less things dealing with interaction and production due to the fact that the majority of cosplayers buy their costumes anymore?

>>7137248
I don't think they're censoring the names to protect people, they're doing it so the janitor doesn't delete their posts for 'singling out'.

Remember when "Cosplay is not Consent" got started and the janitor started deleting the threads and banning, that sucked

It was a cosplay issue and should be discussed on the cosplay board.

>>7137258
Those threads got deleted because they were bait that turned into "women are whores" and "women who show skin deserve to be harassed" /r9k/ nonsense.

I'm thinking perhaps one of use should start a contained drama/board culture thread to trial it? I've no doubt that the janitor is lurking this thread or at will at least be lurking it at some point, so obviously they'll be aware of our intentions.

>>7137171
this. I come here half as often as I used to. when I need tips or am just really bored but it's not nearly as fun or entertaining anymore

I don't actually cosplay or wear lolita, but I am interested in doing these things in the future. I also am interested in a lot of the shows, music, and general culture that users of this board seem to be interested in. With the implication of the "no drama/ unrelated threads" rule, this board sort of lost its big drawing factor for me. /cgl/ used to be an interesting place to come, but now it seems a lot slower and the threads are not as interesting to me, although I'm not the target demographic.

What I miss:
>the old tripfags
>pretty people
>posters who had a sense of humor and didn't mind the occasional bit of drama

What I don't miss:
>Canadians
>pedos & creepers (although Falcone is still here)
>/fit/ & /r9k/ raids; this includes "/fit/ Fridays"

What I want gone:
>Canadians
>Tumblerers
>people who try to change /cgl/ into the new coscom, get offended at anyone who tells them anything other than compliments, think "fat shaming" is a think... basically Tumblr

>>7137337
*is a thing

>>7137127
First off any issues about the moderation on the board should be taken to /q/ as per the global rules hence why those threads are deleted.

Meanwhile with good threads being deleted sometimes that is the cause of anon making a thread and deleting it on their own so that the Janitors are blamed for it.

>>7137250
You're the kind of person we don't want to be on here. Also, you clearly don't visit the board much since you don't seem to notice that there are tons of troll theads that stay up and relevant threads that go down.

>>7137341
>First off any issues about the moderation on the board should be taken to /q/ as per the global rules hence why those threads are deleted.

>/q/

I've got some bad news for you.

>>7137341
If you really believe that tons of people are deleting their own threads then you need to leave right now.

Also, /q/ is gone you dumbass.

Are you janitor-chan or something?

>>7137355
Some anon admitted that they did it a few times, so I guess all the janitor white knights are trying to make it seem like it's a common thing, when it's obviously not.

>>7137363
Note that this is institutionalized misogyny. She would have no whiteknights if people didn't know she was a girl.

Fun fact: you cant delete your own threads anymore

>>7137214
>>7137192
>>7137171
Here's the problem with old /cgl/, the people proved that they could not handle having complete board/drama freedom. Anon showed time and time again that they are easily trolled and vindictive and even positive threads encouraging quality content and reminding people not to fall for trolls were also bogged down with drama and what not. Even the progress threads were not safe. Add to that the board invasions, constant PT threads (we would have one made on a daily basis), WAYW, and fit threads and suddenly /cgl/ just turned into /b/ for girls. When moot came in people BEGGED to have drama removed by an overwhelming majority as it was shown and documented that /cgl/ can't handle that sort of responsibility.

Don't blame the janitors that the board is slow, blame the shitty people who come here.

I come here because I can talk about fashion and makeup.
The obvious /r9k/ and /fit/ threads need to be deleted faster and people need to stop falling for them.

>>7137254
Here's my BS theory.

The people that interacted with the board the most and with other were the tripfags. People buying their costumes does not explain the drop in closet cosplay threads, webcam reaction images, vocarro threads, image posting games (guess the con, post a picture related to the one previously shown). I'm not saying that tripfags were the heart and soul but the trips really pushed the social antics to the forefront. Don't you find it interesting that the board's activity dropped, both the AIM chat and tinychat rooms disbanded all when the tripfags were purged here?

This board is slow as fuck now / boring as shit.

Ever notice how the quick the deleted threads get comments / responses?

Yeaaaaaa

>>7137256
bingo!
>>7137248
idiota!

>>7137250 >>7137334
I don't care if the drama goes or stays, my problem is the janitor is completely ham-fisted.
We can say that this person has done this, but we can't say than another person has done that. So many threads get deleted for no reason, and yet there are plenty of 'why no qt gf' threads or /r9k/ trolls a week. Can we get a diagram of /cgl/ board culture because the janitor doesn't seem to understand it.

More importantly, where is my fucking Halloween sticky?
>INB4 janitors can't sticky
I don't care. I emailed moot about it as did other anons, and if he's reading every email then where the fuck is it?

>>7137383
> lel dnt blame janitor
No. The janitor is also to blame. Did you even actually read >>7137136 >>7137140 >>7137146 >>7137211 >>7137252 >>7137258 >>7137171

>>7137337
>old tripfags

No tripfag is a good trip. Also keep in mind that even people like Hobbes were on this board for at least 2 to 3 years.

>>7137399
>The janitor is also to blame.

This is my point "also" the board is only good as its content and while the janitor has gone overboard and made shitty calls, it's still more productive now then it was during the /fit/ invasion

To those of you complaining about the janitor's moderation and pruning policies, maybe some of the blame can be placed on us. The main thing being the use of the report button. I have the feeling that seagulls, unlike any other board's user for a particular reason, use the report button like a downvote. Instead of using it to report posts that break board/site rules, it's used as a way to silence contrary opinions or offensive topics. 4chan is an offensive place, and people can speak their minds freely, under the guise of anonymity, so you're going to read shit that pisses you off. The problem comes in when an offensive, non-rule violating posts is reported repeatedly by overzealous users and the janitor starts deleting and banning away. I personally have had threads deleted within the hour because it was a topic that was deemed as b8 by some and others just went with it. I'm sure it's frustrating for others when they aren't allowing to discuss topics freely because they are stifled by a tyrannical, PC mod.

tl;dr Think before you report. Just because your jimmies get rustled doesn't mean any rule was broken. Grow some thicker skin and a sense of humor.

>>7137348
>You're the kind of person we don't want to be on here.
I post cosplays, progress, tutorials, opinions, suggestions and references? I also love to read up on make-up, lolita, taobao, and more helpful threads like those. I'm sorry you don't want me to be part of your exclusive drama club but I consider myself to be a good contributor to /cgl/.

>Also, you clearly don't visit the board much
I'm actually a massive loser who lurks /cgl/ basically all day. I check it more than my e-mail. I report off-topic things (so I guess that's why you might not want me here) and monitor which of my reported posts get deleted and bitch to my friends when dumb stuff stays in the thread all day. Like I said it my original post, I wish the janitors were better about deleting troll threads and off-topic posts but overall I vastly prefer this level of moderation to the shit we had before.

It was tiring having a front page made up entirely of PT and /fit/ seeking girlfriend threads and now I can actually come here for what this board is intended for.

>>7137341

>/q/

>>7137396
>but the trips really pushed the social antics to the forefront.

I'm gonna have to agree with this. I didn't like most of the trips, particularly the ones that never seemed to contribute to actual cosplay/lolita threads, but, cosplay and lolita ARE hobbies based on appearance. Unlike the other boards, you're going to want recognition for what you put together, and an easy way for everyone to recognise someone that frequently contributes to cosplay or lolita threads is with a trip. Not to say that absolutely everyone should use a trip, just that it did make sense why we had so many.

I also noticed that many of the well liked trips admitted to only using their trips when they were selfposting, which I always thought was the best way to go about it. There's really no other reason you should use a trip unless you're giving advice, or posting photos of your WIP or coords or whatever.

>>7137414
>and monitor which of my reported posts get deleted and bitch to my friends when dumb stuff stays in the thread all day.
Yeah, you really need to get a life, you control freak.

>inb4 banned for breaking global rule 6

>>7137416
>There's really no other reason you should use a trip
PROTIP: It's called attention.

Protip: REMEMBER TO REPORT THREADS THAT NEED REPORTING.

the fastest way to get shit threads and shit posters nuked is to report them.

and if you see obvious bait, DO NOT REPLY

>>7137411
That is a very, very good point.

So we need less butthurt users and a more zen mod.

>>7137411
The report button doesn't really do much of anything but get the mods attention. Most times the threads that have actually been reported multiple times are left and ones that aren't having any issue whatsoever disappear for no reason.

>>7137414
>Like I said it my original post, I wish the janitors were better about deleting troll threads and off-topic posts

No you didn't actually say this.

>>7137423
What kind of threads do you deem need to be reported? If it's offtopic, sure. But if you don't like the topic, just hide the damn threads.

>>7137426
Tripping protects your identity. Say you were anon and you posted a prop and another anon asks for advice but then a third party jumps in and gives shitty tips. There is no way the person needing help can tell the difference between the two people and would think the image posting anon posted those words. The same can be said for taking commissions. By tripping you have ownership of your posts so that people don't answer on your behalf, screw up and make you look like a shithead

>>7137428
Sorry if this wasn't clear enough:

>I'm really glad moot made the changes he did, and honestly my only complaints with the janitor are that they don't delete stupid shit fast enough. When it stays up for awhile people just think they're entitled to keep posting it even though everyone knows it breaks the rules.
I should have specified that thought also applied to obvious troll and bait threads!

I'm going to go take my nerd loser self away from this thread to go buy fabric so I hope I contributed some helpful thoughts although I see most of the people in this thread disagree, oh well. At least it's out there.

>>7137427
Well, sometimes threads that get reported a lot don't necessarily break any rules. That was the point of my post. Missue of the report button is just as bad as not reporting. Having a biased janitor doesn't help the situation either. Use discretion is all I'm trying to say. Also, if you don't like the thread being around after you report, just hide it. When people keep replying in the thread and bumping it, that helps no one except the OP.

>>7137250
>trolls called a trip fat??

clearly you are really fucking new

>>7137436
Of course, but I don't mean for particular reasons such as ownership of posts. I mean 24/7, never take off my trip anywhere, tripfags. Most trips on 4chan, especially on the larger boards, use their tripcode all the time. It's purely for attention. The only time they may take it off is when they don't want people to know they said something. It's literally the antithesis of how tripcodes were meant to be used.

>>7137250
>70 posts in the progress thread about weight loss after some trolls called a trip fat??

Usually the weight loss posts are constructive and helpful and in response to people who actually have been asking about it.

I still wish moot would change his mind on IDs here.
i get the impression that some threads are MASSIVELY samefagged in order to start shit.

>>7137454

Seriously is there any logical basis behind not having IDs?

>>7137444
Speaking as a a former 24/7 trip one of the reasons why some of us kept ours on when replying to threads was that we were getting a lot of super anti-tripfag anons who would blast a tripfag's post on the grounds of the person being a tripfag due to all the wave of bad tripfags being lumped together with the good ones. Many of us used these posts as a way to gather evidence that there were reasonable and productive trips on the board.

Of course this doesn't matter anymore as tripfags have been wiped out here for better or worse

>>7137458
Same reason we don't have . It takes a lot of server power, so only the most important boards get spoilers, and only /b/ (the absolutely most popular board) gets IDs.

>>7137477
probably falcone detected

>>7137478
/b/ has ids because it has forced anon yet still RARELY requires the identification that tripcodes provide.

I believe moot has said that Ids make it less anonymous and he doesnt like that personally.

>>7137478
we dont have spoilers because we arent really supposed to be discussing tv/movies/anime/whatever here so that any use of spoilers here would be for stuff like I heard this cosplayer bought like 40 dicks on ebay and sucked them all

at least thats what i assume

(as an aside I consider it a hair inconsiderate to cosplay a huge spoiler outfit if the spoiler isnt 6 months old)

I liked it when all alt fashion was accepted here. Now there is nowhere for people with non j fashion alt fashion to go.
And no, /fa is not an option.

>>7137497
Have you tried /fa/ maybe?

>>7137116
me too

>>7137489
How are we not supposed to be discussing movies or tv or any media here? I had Game of Thrones spoiled in its entirety solely by /cgl/ discussing costumes from particular scenes in the book. Same thing would have happened hundreds of times over if I hadn't seen/read/watched what was being discussed already.

Complaining about 4chan (its policies, moderation, etc.) on the imageboards can result in post deletion and banishment. The administrator will address your questions, comments, complaints, and concerns via e-mail.

>>7137504
you obviously haven't or you'd know how absurd that suggestion is.

>>7137674
the primary function of the board is cosplay.
its an oversight that we do not have spoilers

I used to think the drama was ridiculous and annoying but now that it's gone I crave it so fucking hard.

>>7137761
I never understood why /r9k/ had spoilers though...

>>7137801
Same, but at the same time every drama board that's been put up is pretty ehh. I like staminarose as of now, though. PULL is a clusterfuck of chicks all as stupid as the ones they bash. Like, pants-over-head retarded chicks. It is really fucking sad.

And I don't miss maxfag at all.

>>7137850
always wanted to post this

I miss /fit/ fridays.

>>7137850
I hate staminarose 'cause the admin can't code.

>>7137850
Never heard of Staminarose, looks like it was just made yesterday

>>7137211
Ai-honey is the janitor?

>>7137827
As I said earlier, spoilers are all about popularity. This is a dead board, you don't get to use up 50% more server power than you would without spoilers.

/r9k/, on the other hand, is a vibrant board full of life. If you want spoilers really hard, why don't you become their girlfriends and introduce them to cosplay? Then /cgl/ will have more and more posters and it might get spoilers too. And you'll be doing a nice deed there as well, saving poor young males from the pitfall of loneliness.

I want drama back.

>>7137341
Can you not spout shit before checking things out?

>>7138235
/r9k/ deserves to die alone tho

>>7137411
I actually don't think i've ever reported anything here. I saw a nude picture once and was contemplating reporting it but I decided against it

If I could get rid of one thing, it would be all the whining about attention whoring/people being sluts/quality of cosplay declining/etc. Once I had over 15 threads hidden because the janitor hadn't cleaned up all crap. And I would bring back more productive threads like the power hour and progress tinychat and stuff.

>>7137895
But his opinions are right.

>>7138249
I second this.

>>7138245
Why? Because they're made bitter by a society that tells them they should die alone all the time, just because they are introverts who couldn't get a girlfriend and are now socially ostracized for it?

>>7138258
incapable of functioning normally within a society? then you need to get out of the society.

Make a seperate Lolita board to seperate cosplaying from lolita.

>>7138267
CGLs pretty quiet, dont think it needs the specialisation + its fact from another thread done here recently that at least half the members do both.

>>7138259
>you cannot function in a society if you don't have a girlfriend! a guy who doesn't have a woman to serve is filth!!!!!!

>>7138249

Man, I tried to start a Tinychat thread last month and I got banned for it....

>>7138273

Not being able to function in society is not the same as not being able to get a girlfriend. Charles Manson had a girlfriend.

I'm an autistic female and whilst a lot of social cue's go right over my head and I find it difficult to detect things like sarcasm I've learnt to mimic people to the extent that I fit in fine and nobody in my area aside from my boyfriend knows I'm a sperg at all; they just think I'm a little eccentric.

Humans of value will adapt to any situation and scenario, whereas their weaker counterparts will opt to hide away, bitch and complain and the situation they put themselves into, and will go on to eventually wither and die. As they should.

>>7138305

This statement has a lot of merit.

>>7138258
If introversion was /r9k/'s only problem they'd be fine, but most of them are self-obsessed, demanding, misogynistic retards who I'd quite happily see euthanised. The guys who are genuinely just alone because they're shy and have uncool interests are on /a/ and /toy/ and /m/, not /r9k/.

I don't understand how this board is consider boring and slow. I guess I don't lurk here for hours on end.

>>7138331

Because you probably weren't around when it was in it's heyday.

>>7138337
The board was more active back then, but also filled with garbage posts.

>>7138330
Except what you said isn't true, and you're stereotyping based on a few trolls, because you're offended that they sad bad things about girls, on a board that exists for that purpose.

>>7138305
Oh now I get it. You think you're better than them because ~you~ have ~adapted~ despite having ~autism~. It is definitely because you're such a ~~strong character~~ and not because you're a girl. It is definitely not because that every time you brag about it to them, they tell you that it's because you're a girl, and they're not, which is the harsh truth that you don't want to accept. If you were born with a dick, you would be one of them.

>>7138344

But so what if half the posts were garbage?
This is 4chan, half of the damn website is garbage posts, but for some reason /cgl/ is held to this really weird standard now and because of this it's become just like any other cosplay/lolita website. /cgl/ has lost what made it a unique and original place to come to.

If moot applied these kind of standards on any other board like /fit/, /v/ or /mu/ can you imagine the fucking shitstorm? Oh actually, there wouldn't be a shitstorm as shitposting is now a bannable offence.

>>7138348

You haven't been on 4chan very long if you believe that /r9k/ was created to serve as misogynist general. It was originally created to be a spinoff from /b/, the catch being that all of the content must be original in order to avoid content from being recycled much the same way it is on /b/.

I don't think anybody's really sure how it managed to attract neckbeards and basement dwellers, but I remember about 2-3 years ago (maybe even 4 year now?) before /soc/ existed and /r9k/ was the place that people went to camwhore.

>>7138352
No, you probably haven't been around very long, and you just read that on Wikipedia. /r9k/ was canceled, and recently *restored* so that it could hold all the misogyny (which was the reason it was canceled back then), to avoid offending grills on other boards.

>>7138349

>if you were born with a dick, you would be one of them

This is true actually, as it's been proven that females with autism are more adept than males as we learn to mask the symptoms through delayed mimicry, ie. we wait for a person to reciprocate an emotional response and we "store" that emotional response away for a time when we may encounter a similar social scenario.

Autism in females often goes undetected in females because the obsessions that come with it (in particular subjects such as horses, cats, wolves etc.) are seen as merely being a "feminine interest", hence why you get so many autistic furries.

>you think you're better than them because ~you~ have ~adapted~

This is exactly why I think I'm better than them.

>>7138356

>no, you probably haven't been around very long, and you just read that on Wikipedia

Nigga I've been here since 2006, I remember participating in the Habbo raids.
And the fact that you needed to go and Google that shit off Wikipedia shows that you weren't lurking around the time when /r9k/ was first created, otherwise you would already know.

Is that shit even on Wikipedia? You mean a 4chan wiki?

>>7138352
Apparently moot thought this board was full of garbage, so he laid down some rules. If you prefer the old /cgl/, you might like other sites that mainly focus on drama and lawlcows.

>>7138348
I've been going to /r9k/ regularly for five years now, I know exactly what the people there are like. And no, you fucking newfag, it does not exist for that purpose. Fuck off to wizardchan with all the other human filth.

>>7138391
No one defines the board's purpose but its users. moot certainly doesn't care. Your invasion of a place whose users you despise and, most importantly, judge, as "beneath you" in some way (not even hate - hate humanises its target) is why people hate chicks.

/r9k/ exists because cunts like you invade every social sphere and tell any man with dissenting or unsavoury opinions to leave for progressively more marginalised areas of discussion. Then you invade those areas, pronounce a preference for "the REAL shy, lonely guys", i.e. the ones who lick your boots in the way you like, and establish the same hierarchy as ever.

Leave them the hell alone and go to a board that suits you rather than trying to adjust everything to your preferences and easily offended sensibilities.

>>7138399
Fuck you, you hypocritical cunt, I'm there for the greentext. The misogynists are the one who 'invaded'.

>>7138400
Misogynists were there before greentext was invented, bro.

>>7138401
They weren't taking over the entire board and trying to claim it had been theirs the whole time, though. I remember when /r9k/ was actually good.

>>7138402
You remember the misogyny so vividly but you don't remember that the board became swamped with femanon tripfags and looked literally exactly like /soc/ does now for half a year. It's why /soc/ was created - /soc/ was excised from /r9k/ and /r9k/ was deleted for a long time.

Seriously, the entire front page was rate me threads, camwhore threads, "rate my eyes" threads, circlejerking skype threads. This lasted half a fucking year, and the windup was steady and just as bad.

And in any event, who cares if they have misogyny? If lots of people want to talk about that shit, you might as well let them have a space. Or if you want to look at it this way, quarantine them. You have tumblr.

>>7138402
>old cunt getting buttmad about "mah good ol times!"
You can fuck right off elsewhere. You're the cancer on r9k, always crying about it, then throwing a bitchfit about other people crying about other things while you yourself are crying about something and adding to the gangbang of whining known as r9k.

>>7138391
>calling people newfag

lel, someone's got nothing better to define themselves other than age. You're going to be the old person that screams at kids telling them RESPECT ME CAZ IM OLD!!!! even though youve done nothing to gain that respect.

>>7138402
>dat backpedaling

>>7138404
If the misogynists want to be left alone, they shouldn't come and shitpost on here, for a start. And don't you try to deny it because you apparently have nothing better to do than to stand up for pathetic cunts who deserve everything they get, I've seen people crosspost to /r9k/ when they start shit on /cgl/. They have a quarantine- wizardchan. Right now they've forced out the greentext threads which are one of the elements that 4chan was supposed to be all about, and it's not like we're going to get a greentext board anytime soon. Th rest of the website has plenty of reason to look down on the typical /r9k/ poster and I'm terribly sorry if that offends you but maybe you could try being less shit. Also, lol at how you first said only a few trolls shitpost about how much they hate women, and are now trying to defend the entire board doing it.

Does anyone remember /r9k/ when it had actual discussions? Back when there was no gender threads or any /soc/ type of topics. Too bad it didn't stay that way for long.

>>7138408
They don't want to be left alone. They want to post and discuss amongst themselves, which they are doing on /r9k/. You are the intruder, not them, by the simple rule that might is right - they are the majority and you are the minority. As /r9k/ has no mods or janitors and moot doesn't give half a shit, they decide what the board is.

Your constant judgmental statements embedded in self-centered stream of consciousness rants aren't helping your case. Stop calling everything you don't like a pathetic virgin loser and try using arguments.

>>7138412
Not a chance in hell. They earned my contempt by being shitty, awful people who genuinely want everyone who isn't them to suffer and they will continue to receive it.

>>7138402

/r9k/ was never good.

>>7138417
>Retard Stories
>Poop Stories
>School Stories


come on man, back when every other thread was greentext, it was comedy gold. I still have Vikingtard saved.

>>7138418
Sounds like /b/.

>>7138409

I do, it was really fun. Like, if you just wanted a general discussion about a non-specific topic you would go to /r9k/.
I remember years ago when a guy started up a "I'm a policeman, ask me anything" thread and he was regaling all of his most gruesome experiences, one of which included coming into an apartment one day after receiving a report of a weird smell, and upon entering the premises they came across a corpse hanging from a rope.
The resident had hung himself but because the body had been there for some time, when they attempted to get the body down, his entire lower body sloughed away from it's spine leaving just his head and spine intact within the rope.

>>7138418

I was kidding, it was fun for a long time.
Sad to say that I was one of the prime camwhores that contributed to it's demise and eventual revival.
I remember /r9k/ at it's best and it's worst.

Do you remember when it got so bad that literally every fucking thread on the first page was a "women are bitches and whores" thread? Holy shit that was a crazy period.

>>7138422
We don't speak of the Craig era. Which one were you then?

>>7138419
Well that's the point, it was /b/ distilled down to all the good bits. That's what the point of /r9k/ was always supposed to be. At least we have /s4s/ now.

The board is way more on topic now, but super boring.

>>7138359
Obvious wikipedia reader stuff.

>>7138358
>This is true actually
You know, you could've just said that I'm right, why the TL;DR after this?

>>7138458
Well of course you think it's boring, you were only ever here to circlejerk with the trips you liked and try to get the ones you didn't like banned. Get off /cgl/ and go find some other friend's brother to pump and dump you.

>>7138470
Top #rekt.

That pump'n'dump is never gonna get old.

>before pump'n'dump
>dresses appropriately for a 14-tops year old girl
>"oh my got le matt nixon, best boyfriend ever~~~~"
>after pump'n'dump
>dresses like a slut to attract anyone just so that she doesn't have to die as a crazy cat lady (probably why Matt dumped her)

Are you amused yet, Voldefart?

>>7138473
oh my god how could you bring all the pain to a poor girl back again?? you are monster?

>>7138468

>You know, you could've just said that I'm right, why the TL;DR after this?

It's probably that Autism I was talking about hurgh hurgh

>>7138482
Sure is.

Do you have a tumblr?

I said it before, but this board is basically tumblr now. It slowed down even more, and is filled with nothing but tumblr. People get upset the moment someone says anything "rude" and fall for loltransphobic trolls left and right. Everyones so sensitive and politically correct. Shit, even the helpful people have left this board. Its turned into nothing but homestuck/DR and lolita.

I think everyone also agrees we have a shitty janitor that deletes on topic threads they dont like, even if theyre not breaking any rules.

>>7138543
>everyones so sensitive
I've only seen that in regards to black girls in lolita and fat chicks in cosplay. Am I missing a laundry list?

>>7137136
I got banned for making fun of fatties, I think it was in an ita thread or something. Fatty mod is very over sensitive.

>>7137146
I reckon with the catalog we have now all the dramu would be contained to fewer threads... If we were allowed it. And would therefore be less annoying to ppl trying to ignore it.
4chan is meant to be the place you go to when you want to speak your mind and now you can't.

Can we really regulate drama and have it the way the board was before? The problem with the most recent drama threads (before the janitor) was that people just sucked at starting it. Instead of targeting people who legitimately cause problems at cons they would just post pictures of unknown cosplayers and go 'hey know any drama on this bitch?? which just reeked of vendetta. What sort of "drama guidelines" would we need? The most recent case of good drama I can think of was AI-Honey's kickstarter project.

Meanwhile with /q/ gone does that mean we can have meta threads on here again?

>>7137230
Send him this thread then

It feels like the people who complain about the board being slow are cosplayers. The board is less active because con season is over. If you guys want drama, just go to cow or something.

>>7137497
This is the reason I started coming here. Alt/jfash and dramu. I don't even cosplay or wear Lolita but we used to have awesome threads about strange and foreign fashions (we occasionally have a fairy kei thread but its nothing like it used to be)

>>7138543
Note that the tumblrs are not that much more butthurt than Canadian tripjerkers were. You would also act like it's the end of the world when someone told some truths about your shitty cosplays ("board-tan" crap etc).

People keep talking about all the tripfags being gone and I noticed its as if they all left around the same time. When we talk about tripfags fondly who in general are we referring to as I remember lots of tripfag hate in the past.

Also if anyone has any idea why they left feel free to share.

>>7138621
It is natural that tripfags left together, because they are cowardless spines that cannot exist without jerkcircling.

>>7138625
>Spineless
>Tripfags post on an anon board with a unique name, upload their photos and announce what cons they go to and where they will be at.
>Host cgl gatherings so that other anons can meet them

Hard to be spinless when you keep proclaiming where you are. If you wanted to start shit with a tripfag you could easily find them

Do we really want to return to this? Why would anyone want this?

>>7138716
Maguma and God still post here. I haven't seen Masa in forever. I assume MJ died of herpes, and Hobbes was murdered in his sleep by somebody from this board.

>>7138716
Board was more productive waaay before this was made. much better than where we are now.

>>7138543
>Everyones so sensitive
cgl has always been ridicuously easy to get reactions out of

Honestly, the board has been ruined for me. I just come here to check up on it, to see if it's beginning to improve. Nope.

Cosplay thrives off of community, and we judge others' costumes to help come up with ways to better that costume for when someone else wants to make it. Now that we cannot judge people's cosplay (herp derp vendetta&drama) we cannot grow. The board is now just galleries of different conventions and fandoms.

>>7138618
I think everyone's generalizing on the Canada hate. There's a few people from around Toronto that haven't represented us very well, but that can't really account for such a large country. Every comm. has imperfections.
>inb4 "you're Canadian, your opinion is irrelevant"

As for /cgl/'s status, I agree that the janitor is far too selective and nonsensical in pruning certain threads, but the content of the board is still enough to keep me interested. Even if it's declined in quality somewhat.

>>7138778
>a few people from around Toronto
>that haven't represented us very well,
>us
But you're one of them.

>>7138780
I know. I'm not too happy with the popular opinion of our community but it's not something that'll change. It's a shame, there are some truly amazing cosplayers in this town, and the Canadians this board singles out are genuinely good people.
At the very least, I appreciate the friends I've made regardless of what some imageboard seems to think.

>>7138778
fwiw I've gotten so sick of UK bullshit that I'm going to Canada for my big con next summer and I'm not even the only one doing that, so, y'know, it could be worse. Unless it couldn't, in which case I will report back on how awful the canadians truly are/aren't.

>>7138788
>most
Okay, who isn't then? Give some delicious trashtalk/dramu.

>>7138804
Clearly I'm not being specific on purpose, but remember those threads from like December when there were a few random new trips out of nowhere?
They were retarded.

>>7138473
lel? I dress the same as i always have

>>7138905
i don't remember you doing any skimpy cosplays and cosplays of characters from games you never even played from before summer of 2012

It's over /cgl/ you guys are screwed. We've seen what happens to slow boards once the fascistly "politically correct" move in. Look what happened to /co/. Look what's happening to /tg/.
Staff needs to back the fuck off. This is all /v/'s fucking fault. /v/ got bad and now moderation has swung back to excessive everywhere not just places like /v/ where the community had abjectly failed to police themselves.

>>7138621
I know Eva Braun dropped her trip cause her info got posted to the old r9k trip site.

I have mixed feeling about the 'new' cgl. The board is definitely more on-topic, and I feel like more than ever before you will actually get help on cosplay/lolita without the shitposting. But at the same time, because of the new rules, it's turned into a handholding fest. The last three threads I was active in turned into people bitching about ableism and trans rights, and not in the "haha fucking trannies" but in tumblr tier "you can't comment because you aren't one of them!" which needs to stop. Yeah, the nonsensical trolling was rampant but now you can so clearly tell who just came here from tumblr because it's 'edgy' and the actual 4chan user (tip: the ones who get defensive over clear troll/bait posts do not belong). Yes I miss the drama threads, yes I think that they should be brought back in moderation. It did get extremely bad when we had 5+ pt threads going an hour and vendetta shit left and right, but now you can't even call out legitimate shitty behaviour without being banned. Why can't we have just a 'Drama General' thread. /co/ managed to figure it out with generals for more popular subjects, so why can't we have one? I sometimes feel like that because this is the 'girl' board we're treated more differently, but not because muh patriarchy, but because of the fact that yes, we do cause and thrive in drama, but I feel like we weren't given the chance to still have our feminine amusements of cattiness and we jumped straight into strict moderation.

/CGL/ is like that crazy neighbour lady who was extremely entertain and bait sometimes, but then she was sent to rehab and put on meds and now she's this lifeless automaton going through the motions. Pls Dr.Mod, just take down her dosage to the amount where she can still rant and rave without doing mass destruction.

>>7139559

I'd rather have shitposters a mix of bad / average / good tripfags rather than tumblr hugbox femnazi cunts

>>7139638
You would rather go back to the old days where you couldn't even discuss cosplay without even the most mundane questions being trolled?

>>7139643
I'm pretty sure more stuff got done back in the old days than it does now. A lot more.

>>7139643

It depends on how far back you're talking. If you're talking 4+ years ago, it wasn't like that.

~2 years ago when fucking betas from /fit/ and /r9k/ invaded, this place turned into a giant poo poo shit fuck. At least it was active though...

>>7139653
Beta invasion was just like ~1 year ago when some epig trolle started posting the "/cgl/ loves /fit/ the most" rankings every where. Around the same time Fatcone came here first, hoping to get some underage girl sloppy seconds.

I dont know why, but OP picture has given me three consecutive boners
it's not even lewd

>>7139928
Yes it is, you can see her naked shoulders, hair, neck & arms. That's very lewd.

>>7139469
I actually just forgot my trip.

yes some people are this stupid

the problem is that we abused our freedoms. The levee breaking point was when Hobbes, Dildoes, Coffee and all that drama that came with all of them and the general spamming of JNigs and PT threads was not what I think anyone wanted to sign up for unless your the type of person that enjoys sitting on shit all day, every day. And yeah, it was activity, but so is shitting your pants.

so someone stepped in and instead of disbanded chaos, now we have a controlled chaos. And whats to say the minute we have our freedom we'll be back at shitting in our pants? do you want to go back to that?

I say take the high road and do something about this. Instead of complaining and making meta-threads about how things used to be to show to the Mod that we want to go back to shitting our pants and go against it and start being.. Oh I don't know... Productive. And don't give me that shit that the Mod will close it down, if it closes down, it was some other dickwad that wants to go back to the days of us shitting in our pants.

I won't ask you to make a choice, but if you do decide, it's going to be blood on everyone's collective hands.

>>7140045
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.

>>7140080
Seriously, I was mid thread on /r9k/ trying to reply to someone and suddenly where my trip goh. I think my laptop cleared my cookies for some reason, and I deleted the notepad file where I had the tripcode written down so that's that I guess.

>>7140107
yeah and you also totally did nicknacks in his hotel room's bathroom and took his virginity

>>7140063
>The levee breaking point was when Hobbes, Dildoes, Coffee and all that drama that came with all of them

On that day /cgl/ received a grim reminder...

>>7140109
Atta girl.

>>7140063
I'm glad I ignored all those tripfags spam. I think people having problems with the board are just tripfags and kids who can't spam shit anymore. The janitor problem is actually legit though.

>>7140063
>I won't ask you to make a choice, but if you do decide, it's going to be shit on everyone's collective hands.
FTFY, follow through on the metaphor!

>>7140045
>still coming back
>still being a liar
No one believes you.

>>7138358
I don't know you. I don't ever post here. But I was expecting a bitchy response and instead you happened. I love you, you glorious autist.

>>7140164
Wow, I always thought Eva is cray cray but this just confirms it.

I think all alt fashions and drama should be allowed, but trip circlejerking, b8ing and "girl board" bullshit needs to go.
Why can't we have one without the other?

>>7140196
>no one replied to my shitty "arrogant cunt" post
>b-but I put so much work into it!!
>oh wait, I'll just pretend to be someone else, tee-hee~

I don't dislike the board as it is now. The old drama was boring as hell. Because it was just so unoriginal. "Look at PT, she's fat and ugly and crazy! Look at PT again, she's still fat and ugly! Look at her again... Still fat and ugly!" The old drama just lacked new content. So the new drama, even with the "no-singling-out" rule, is better. Because it's always different. Laughing at the same things over and over again is boring.

Also, the board is more helpful now.

And I find the tumblr comments absolutely hilarious, because everyone is so stupid.

I still think the janitor could be a little more lenient and let things pass. Except for the troll bait everywhere. Why is everyone here so fucking stupid that they always answer to the same trolls?

>>7138300
>>7138249

Posting Tinychat links or advertising Tinychat is a banable offense here.