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Can we have a lolita substyle thread? I would like to see good/weird/bad examples. Nurse lolita, pirate lolita, wa lolita, sailor lolita, or whatever! If it's not classic, gothic or sweet it's okay.

What substyle would you like to see in the future? And what do you not want to see?

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7112803

>>7112799

I like excuses to post qi lolita.

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>>7112803

>> No.7112806

>>7112803
what dress is she wearing?

>> No.7112811
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>>7112806

R-series

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5.w4002-2939005222.46.WFHkyr&id=18281375330

>> No.7112812

>>7112803
>qi

Meaning, what? Chinese-influenced?

>> No.7112827

>>7112812
Yes, that right. Wa lolita is influenced by Japanese traditional clothing and Qi is influenced by Chinese traditional clothing. Those style are underrated, especially because a lot of newbies try out Wa lolita the wrong way. People seem to think bad about those styles because of that.

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>>7112812

Sort of. It was shown once in a Japanese magazine and never really spoken of again in Japan, but Chinese sort of took the concept and ran with it. I have no idea how it's received by the ~elitists~ in China though and if it's considered more acceptable as a lot of the stuff I see on forums is considered ita by our standards.

>tfw I can't read Chinese and lurk for Chinese drama

>> No.7112833

>>7112824
It's probably some kind of thing from the west. I don't think that Japanese lolitas are making the substyles their selves. It's more like we (lolitas from the west )name the styles.

I remember the time seeing it in the magazines. Maybe we can consider it as some old school substyle? Or maybe lolitas just wanted to wear something tradition and haven't got any reason for it at all. Who knows...

>> No.7112846

More substyles please? ^^

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>>7112846
Oh god I love sailor so much. I have too many sailor-inspired things. Like, half of my dream dresses are sailor OPs.

/r/ing god-tier sailor dresses.

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>>7112926
Also ouji.

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>>7112926

>> No.7112948

>>7112926
Seconding the request, please. Three of my dreams are sailor and what I've currently got together for my next Taobao order are sailor tops and various skirts. I need more sailor themed outfits in my wardrobe.

>> No.7112951

>>7112833
>It's probably some kind of thing from the west. I don't think that Japanese lolitas are making the substyles their selves. It's more like we (lolitas from the west )name the styles.

That might be true. I took that survey for the JAL yesterday and it only lists:
Orthodox? (this might mean what we call old school)
Classical
Sweet
Doll
Fairy
Country
White
Black
Gothic
Casual
Rock & Punk

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>>7112948

>> No.7112966
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>>7112956
I also prefer the navy color in sailor dresses, but I'm also a mess and would completely destroy a pretty white dress.

I like the beige or cream x brown dresses too, though.

>> No.7112965

>>7112933
One of the few times those tights actually look good on someone.

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>>7112966

>> No.7112976

>>7112951
What would 'doll-lolita' be?

>> No.7112992

>>7112976
probably meaning like dolly kei?

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>>7112971
God if I only had unlimited money. My house would be full of sailor OPs and blouses and JSKs, oh my.

I just bought a more costumey type dress for halloween, but I'm hoping once it gets here that it's decent quality so I can spruce it up and actually wear it.

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>>7112976

>> No.7113028

>>7112951
>Fairy
I'd love to see this!

>> No.7113522

>>7113009
That's just straight up dolly kei.

>> No.7113526

Sailor and qi loli are my favorites.
/r/ing more qi loli. No one ever posts it because it's always marked as super weeby but I think it's really neat. Somewhat classier looking than wa loli since the main notable thing is the collar.

>> No.7113563

>>7113028
then google "fairy lolita"

>> No.7113712

More ouji please! :)

>> No.7113744

>>7113563
All of it it looks just like Sweet lolita... what about proper whimsical woodland fairies

>> No.7113751

>>7112976
I always thought lolita style was supposed to mimic those vintage collectable dolls anyway, it sounds redundant.

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>>7112812
I would guess the 'qi' comes from 'qipao'.

I don't personally like qi lolita since the body tight silhouette is what I like most about qipao. That said, I really like >>7112803 , probably because of the additional European influences.

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I love pirate lolita!! More lolitas should try this style.

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>>7113759

The original qipao is a very far cry from the modern version that was popularised in the 1920s. The qipao is not defined by its silhouette imo, especially considering its history.

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>>7113769
Have some Punk Pirate, anon

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>>7113780
And some Ero here, even if people always hate it.

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>>7113781
More of the same. Makes me so nostalgic, I love it!

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>>7113783
Ouji-ish

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>>7113786
Military

>> No.7113788
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>>7113787
Sailor

>> No.7113793
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>>7113788
More Ero

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>>7113793
Bittersweet

>> No.7113802
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>>7113796
CPK-lolita hybrid

>> No.7113816

>>7113796
Gretchen, stop trying to make Bittersweet happen!

>> No.7113825

>>7113796
this isn't bittersweet this is creepycute bandwagon shit
bittersweet should look like the unwanted bastard love child of sweet and gothic
this just looks like the unwanted bastard rape child of tumblr and jfashion and i think it is hideous

>> No.7113826

>>7113796

Goddamn that looks shit.

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>>7113816
>>7113825
>>7113826
I think I meant to upload this one, actually.
But I get that a lot of people hate this sort of thing.

I think I must be ita, there generally isn't a substyle I hate, unless you start saying nonsense like 'pinku lolita' or 'aoi lolita' at me.

>> No.7113830

>>7113829
the fuck is 'aoi lolita' supposed to be

>> No.7113846

>>7113830
completely sax themed lolita

>> No.7113877

>>7113778
>1920s
Oh, that would explain why I seem to like so many in that era. Silly me.

>> No.7113892

>>7113796
I really like this color scheme and style, but it looks silly when put together in lolita. I'm not really sure where I'd categorize it as appropriate.

But to me it sorta seems like a chord that'd be acceptable around Halloween. A legitimate lolita 'costume'. Not necessarily ita because it's put together well... but no way should you wear it to a meet.

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If I could subscribe to a single substyle, it would definitely be country (even though it's probably the most "vanilla" next to classic). I'll dump some of my favorites.

>> No.7113911

>>7113825
>this is creepycute bandwagon shit
>mfw i love creepycute and it makes me happy to see it blended with lolita
>mfw everyone hates it
>mfw i have no face

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>>7113910

>> No.7113917

>>7113910
I love country, anon!

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>>7113916

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>>7113922

>> No.7113926

>>7112824
Since some taobao indie brands produce Qi-Lolita dresses themself, I don't think they care about it.

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>> No.7113962

>>7113778
>>7113759
It's qipao the name for the fabric and cheongsam the name for the dress itself?

>> No.7113966

>>7113787
Military is best lolita, need more. So much more.

Is there any brand that sells a lot of military themed items specifically? I know that a lot of classic brands have pieces that work for it, but they are usually few and far between.

>> No.7113972

>>7113966
Probably Metamorphose and Alice and the Pirates.. They used to have some items that would work for military lolita. I'm not sure they still have them in their collection.

>> No.7114094

>>7113786
Thank you! More ouji anyone? I want to start wearing it, so I need some inspiration.

>> No.7114110

>>7113962
Qipao is mandarin and Cheongsam is Canto.

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>>7114094
Look at Buttcape, Monsterkun and Bakasoseji.
There's someone with 'grotesque' or something in their name who is like a Kodona God but I can't remember it.

Just please make sure you have a proper shirt and don't skimp. None of this plain dresshirt + plain waistcoat + shorts business. Good luck!

>> No.7114183

>>7114180
that bag is really cute wow

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>>7113526

I kind of want to know who's selling this, but i haven't managed to track down the seller. I should probably feel bad for liking it, but eh.

>>7113877

The modern qipao is great to wear to 1920s parties, haha. My friend did that and boy did she look classy.

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>>7113966
I got AP's Navy Girl Skirt, so excited to coord! I wish there was more military lolita stuff too

>> No.7114332

>>7114118
neogrotesk

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>>7113911
mfw you have no taste

>> No.7114378

>>7113780
I was expecting the worst but i actually love this, especially what she's done with the legwarmers/scarves

>> No.7114385

>>7113787
I love the shit outta military... tfw dark secrets is my dream set and is impossible to find

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>>7114399

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>>7114404

>> No.7114419
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>>7114410
Does this count as sailor?

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>>7114419

>> No.7114443

>>7113781
Requesting more ero, please! Especially after the ero secret in btb, what even is ero? Commenters are saying it really is just lolita bloomers, others say it must have gothic influence, etc. Can I see some examples cgl considers proper ero?

>> No.7114449

>>7114443
Originally it was just lolita with fetish elements but according to japanese lolitas they only call it Ero Goth over there because it is not considered lolita.

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>> No.7114465

>>7113966
Excentrique sells military stuff regularly, though you'll pay through the nose for it.

>> No.7114539

Military always comes off as looking like glorified flight attendants in poofy dresses, to me, haha.
Nice, but I wouldn't jump to the conclusion of "Oh that's military!" right when I see it.

>> No.7114560

>>7114539
I don't have any pictures of them but Metamorphose did some flight attendant inspired JSKs back in 2011, haha.

>> No.7115348

>>7113829
It's not the coords people hate, it's the term "bittersweet." A sweet print in a dark color is still sweet, and a lot of people are annoyed that the term (which was started as a bemused joke about making up dumb names for "new substyles") is actually gaining legitimacy in the minds of itas.

>> No.7115693

>>7113744
Fairy lolita is based off fairy kei. Has nothing to do with magical fae beings. If you want whimsical woodland looking, look up mori-lolita.

>> No.7115698

>>7113910
I like this, because it just seems like a very nice casual sundress. You could wear this anywhere.

>> No.7115748

>>7114376
>no taste
>most underrated substyle in the fashion
K.

>> No.7115752

>>7115348
Not that anon but I thought it was the juxtaposition of pastel and dark colors like pastel pink and black. Thanks for the explanation.

>> No.7115758

>>7115748
Creepycute isn't a substyle, it's a shitty tumblr trend, and if you honestly think it looks good, then yes, I'm afraid you have no taste.

>> No.7115762

>>7115752
To me, that's what it means.
I'm okay with people calling me an idiot, I like having a word that means "pastels with black or darker colours", it's easier for me.

>> No.7115765

>>7115758
Could you please explain what's so bad about the way it looks? I have a feeling people just shit all over it because it's on Tumblr.

>> No.7115787

>>7115765
It's usually co-ordered terribly (mismatched pinks/purples etc), although that might just be because the people who are into it are usually itas who can't co-ord properly in the first place.

Aside from that, it's just plain tacky. The colours tend to clash horribly and the accessories look cheap and plasticky, even more so than OTT sweet. Lolita is supposed to look elegant and or/cute, and wearing those hideous skeleton tights and putting eyeballs on everything is neither.

I don't think it generates hate just because it's on tumblr, but because it's hideous. Same with a lot of other 'lolita' trends on tumblr, like the deer antlers.

>> No.7115843

>>7115787
Yknow what I'd like to see? A proper goth take on some creepy cute tropes. Like using actual glass realistic eyes, elegant silver spider and bat jewelry, and maybe instead of skeleton tights, make them look like antique x-rays? Weathered, faded, and realistic bones. Like a cross between goth and guro almost.

>> No.7115914

>>7115843
you have vision, anon
do it

>> No.7115930

>>7113892
colour scheme made me immediately think of cyber-punk

>> No.7116137

>>7114443
I feel pretty certain these days that "ero loli" isn't actually a thing, and never was a thing. Like you said it's just a style of goth clothing, and it got mistaken for lolita by some people.

Erotic is the complete opposite of lolita so of course they don't work together at all. Anything people label as "ero lolita" just looks like some type of regular goth stuff. Like these>>7113781
>>7113783, that's just regular goth, not lolita, not even gothic lolita. Just goth.

And this >>7113793, idek what that is. It's not goth and it's definitely not lolita.

I think the few people who are determined to keep this "ero lolita" thing going would do better to join another fashion because whatever they are calling lolita, it just isn't.

>> No.7116149

>>7116137
I don't know what goths you've seen anon, but there are some clear lolita influences there.

I definetly think "ero lolita" was a substyle of lolita as there were brands like arachnophobia that sold specifiically ero lolita clothes.

>> No.7116153

>>7113796
what a tacky perler-bead necklace.

>> No.7116207

>>7115843
b-but that's basically OTT gothic lolita. Why are people this desperate to make creepycute happen? Why do people like it?

>> No.7116208

>>7116149
I think ero lolita is like lolita, goth, and fetishwear had a hot threesome and the end result is this substyle that no one is 100% certain who the daddy is.

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>>7116149
What? There's like ONE picture out there of Arachnophobia and it sure doesn't say anything about being loli on it. It says "the end of gothic" and that's it. It doesn't even look loli. The fluffy skirts are the only """""loli""""" element there, they're way too short, there are zero details, it's just a plain mini skirt with a petti under it. That ain't lolita.

What else did Arachnophobia make that was SO RORI? People always bring that brand up but all they have is this one picture as evidence.

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For ero lolita, I am surprised that no one brings up Antique Beast.

>> No.7116246

>>7114453
Oh god. Those cute little pointed toes.

I'm a straight girl, but when I opened that image, my heart skipped a beat. She's so fucking cute.

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>>7116244

>> No.7116438

>>7114453
Is that Kana?

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>>7116222
Um, no, it was always featured in the GLB until it went defunct, it's just hard to find lots of worn shots. There are plenty of pictures of it out there. No details? Look at this picture? You obviously know nothing about the brand. And since when do lolita brands have to say "LOLITA BURANDO STYLE" or some shit on it?

>> No.7118248

>>7116207
This. The other thing about creepycute is that its supposed to be cute... its supposed to have sweet elements, what anon talked about was just OTT goth.

>> No.7118257

>>7113825
bittersweet is actually just sweet prints in black colorways. it is exactly the same as sweet, just with black colorway prints. And it's not a substyle because it's literally just... sweet.

>> No.7118392

>>7113802
I read CPK as California Pizza Kitchen before I realized it was cult party kei.

>> No.7118584

>>7114419

Is there a source on that shirt? that is adorable.

>> No.7118910

>>7118584
Pretty sure it's a stock picture for Angelic Pretty.
Sailor cutsews are pretty common though so chances are something similar will be easyish to find.

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Fanplusfriend is a lot into substyles lately.

>> No.7118940

>>7116207
Creepycute already happend but it is just an overall term for mixing cute fashions with gloomy stuff so it can be pretty much everything, most people use Fairy Kei or Pop Kei as base.

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>>7118937

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>>7118941

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>>7118945

>> No.7118951

>>7116438
Yep, it is.

>> No.7118952

>>7118937
>>7118941
>>7118945
>>7118947
These are all really poorly done and costumey looking. F+F never gets it right. I'm surprised they're still around, most of the other Chinese replica companies shut done.

>> No.7118956

>>7118952
IIf thos are poorley done and costumey looking every band is the same as well because those substyles pretty much always look like this.

>> No.7118957

>>7118952
Ita detected.

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>>7118952
Because brands make it so much 'better'.

Pic related, Meta's latst Military Lolita.

>> No.7118963

>>7118958
*last

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>>7118952
>F+F never gets it right
Yeah, this is surw why people always preorder the hell out of their new print dresses, pic related.

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>>7118956
Are you blind? Do you not see how cheap and shiny the fabrics are (not to mention the prints) and how ugly the designs are? The military one is the one that's not as bad but it looks like a stewardesses uniform. They look almost as bad as something Doll Delight would make.

>>7118957
See above. How does thinking shitty qi lolita is ugly make me an ita? Are you bitter because your wardrobe is made up of F+F?

>>7118958
It's funny that you posted that because it looks 5x better than the F+F one. Although this (pictured) one is less costumey than the Meta collection you posted.

>> No.7118973

>>7118970
F+F isn't even recognised as a lolita brand as the only designs of theirs that look any good are replicas. But then the quality is terrible. Any original designs they have always look "off". Have you not read about how they always fuck up sizing and don't make what is pictured? Also, I've been a lolita for almost 8 years and I've never heard of anyone other than newbies bragging about buying from them. They're just a less dodgy Milanoo, all they make is replicas and costumes.

>> No.7118974

>>7114410
omg name? link??

>> No.7118975
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7118975

Looking at the F+F homepage, I have to say that everything looks pretty cheap and tacky. And not in a good way. They haven't changed, guys. Why do you so badly want them to work? What the fuck is this abomination?

>> No.7118977

>>7118974
It's an Excentrique coordinate from the Flasco blog. I'm surprised you had to ask, they have a very distinct look.

>> No.7118978

>>7118973
Do you lstill live in 2008? Because it seems so, they hardly have any replicas anymore besides coats and that with the 'fuck up sizing' doesn't exist anymore since years, people that are too stupid to measure themself don't count.

>> No.7118980

>>7118971
>complains about cheap and shiny fabrics
>posts a dress that is more ita then everything else posted till now

Itas, itas everywhere.

>> No.7118981
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7118981

>>7118975
Yeah, I don't know why these people (or maybe it's one bitter anon) are so eager to defend them.

Cheap shit like this does not help with the argument that lolita is not a costume.

>> No.7118985
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7118985

>>7118978
They have several one the first page of the dresses section. And they manage to make a MM design look like a Rozen Maiden cosplay.

It happened with dozens of girls on EGL, there were many reports of it. Were you even around then?

>>7118980
Wow, you're a lost cause. I bet you think >>7118975 is super sugoi and real lolita desu desu.

>> No.7118986
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7118986

Some anon doesn't like F+F so they must be an ita! You must be an ita to think this supah kawaii lolita doresu is bad quality and costumey desu desu!

>> No.7118988
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7118988

>>7118975
>>7118981
>Choosing their oldest designs as example for their current designs.

>> No.7118989

>>7118980
Bitch, you are obviously an ita if you think >>7118971 is ita. Especially compared to >>7118945 and >>7118975. You can't learn to have taste...

>> No.7118993

>>7115758
How is it not sub style if its a trend? Even if it happens to be a trend you think is stupid.

>> No.7118994
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7118994

>>7118988
This isn't exactly any better.

>> No.7118996
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7118996

>>7118989
But Milky-Ange has been known for making 'costumes' since ages, not my fault that you seem to be a newfag.

>> No.7118999

>>7118996
Um, F+F has been making cosplays and costumes for around 10 years so why are you arguing that Milky-Ange can't make anything nice if they make costumes? You are now not only stupid and an ita, but also a hypocrite.

And I have been around since 2005.

>> No.7119003

>>7118999
But you posted a costume and not a lolita dress, it isn't even the right lenght that it could be somehow used for a lolita outfit.

Costume=/=Lolita

>> No.7119004
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7119004

>>7118999
You never should look at the Milky-Ange reviews then.

Pic related.

>> No.7119005

>>7119003
How is it anymore costumey than >>7118937? And it's done much more tastefully than that. I do not think of Milky Ange as a lolita brand, but just like h.Naoto, they sometimes (rarely) make items that can be worn in a lolita way. They are normally costumey, but that doesn't mean they always are. And their quality is actually good. Your argument seems to be that if a company/brand makes costumes they can't make legit lolita items but F+F started as a costume and replica company and that is what they still are. But none of their ideas are original.

And it's longer than many AP dresses these days.

>> No.7119006

Can we just shut up and agree that F+F is on a slightly lower level than Bodyline and that while they make some cool historical garb, they are not a lolita brand?

>> No.7119008

>>7118996
...come ON. I can't be the only person who noticed that their logo is practically identical to Milano(o).

>> No.7119013
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7119013

Anyone know where the nurse dresses come from?

>> No.7119016

>>7119013
Those are Princess Princess cosplays.

>> No.7119017
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>>7119016

>> No.7119022

>>7119016
>>7119017
Thank you! I asked on a different thread and no one replied so assumed it was possibly nurse lolita.. My boyfriend is starting up a business and has a 'doctor/medical' theme to it so I would need a nurse outfit to go along but I didn't want to get a cheap outfit anyone 'normal' can get their hands on.

>> No.7119026
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7119026

I've worn pic related for a country coord. I got a premade size and it worked just fine for me.

>> No.7119030
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7119030

>>7119026
Also this sailor set is pretty cute as well

>> No.7119034
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7119034

Because we are already at the topic of Nurse Lolita, I will try to post more pics.

>> No.7119038
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>> No.7119041
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>> No.7119054

Rasta Lolita

>> No.7119080

>>7118970
Seriously though, who is pre-ordering that? It looks like any other overpriced Spoonflower indie brand "print". At least tell me it's relatively cheap.

>> No.7119097
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7119097

>>7119080
More than enaugh people and the OP is $101.20.

>> No.7119119

>>7118958
>tfw you still lust for this skirt

>> No.7119124

>>7118970
That print looks very.... Disney? Like it should be the backdrop to some princess merch.

Actually I'd buy that shit in a second if it had some princesses on it

>> No.7119132

>>7119008
White letter watermark? Obviously identical. Also its Milanoo. Milano is a city and a delicious cookie.

>> No.7119137
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>>7118971
speaking of dolldelight, her stuff seems to be getting slightly better lately, although I can never like her for the cone of shame~

>> No.7119153

>>7119137
Ohh that's actually nice.
She's doing so much better since she decided she wasn't making lolita dresses.

>> No.7119159
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>>7119124
The most people buy it because it reminds them of Harry Potter.

>> No.7119171

>>7119022
Your boyfriend's business has a "doctor" theme? May I ask what he does? Haha, sorry, but that sounds dodgy as fuck.

sage for OT

>> No.7119175

>>7119137
I'd buy that, though I feel the sleeves are a little much

>> No.7119182

>>7119097
That's horrible. It looks like shiny, plastic clip art.

>> No.7119184

>>7119171
He's starting up a homemade chilli sauce company, and wants to go with a medical theme as everyone else currently in the market goes towards a fire/death theme. If he was to do food stalls he'll need someone else to help out while he's on toilet/food breaks and he already has an outfit (doctor coat, scrubs, gas mask thing) so I would need an outfit too. I already have the set from fanplusfriend but I would like more than one outfit if I'm needed!

>> No.7119187

>>7119097

It's a cute concept but such poor execution. The border is hella too tall and the skirt looks so sad and frumpy.

>> No.7119188

>>7119182
Haenuli's prints are like this too and everybody throws their money after them.

>> No.7119203

>>7119184
I do love eating hot things when I'm sick (my go-to is either chicken tortilla soup or chicken soup with hot sauce thrown in) so I can see it. Hot sauces really do all go for the fire/death themes.

>> No.7119220
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7119220

>>7119188
Haenuli's photos are slightly more attractive and flattering to the models though. And $105 for the F+F OP is not bad considering what certain indie brands are charging.

>this OP is $185 with imported fabric and not enough poof

>> No.7119248
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7119248

>>7119026
>>7119030
f+f is hit or miss with a lot more misses than hits in terms of fitting and taste
Pic related, this is more a hit than a miss

>> No.7119251

>>7119220
somebody post that haenuli dress with the unfortunate bodice fitting
polite sage for double posting

>> No.7119269
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7119269

>>7119251
this? one

>> No.7119274

>>7119097
But why? For that money you could get multiple much cuter items from Taobao. $100 is too much for something that looks that cheap.

>> No.7119277

>>7119274
>>7119159

>> No.7119281

>>7119137
It kind of looks like she's pregnant with a miniature Good Queen Bess... now I want it. Goddamn it, dolldelight!

>> No.7119301

>>7119269
What the actual fuck? I own their Royal Kitten skirt and I think I'll stick with skirts if I purchase from them in the near future. Yeesh. Did the girl get it custom sized or something? Because I can't imagine that they would make it that big normally.

>> No.7120253

>>7113796
I really like this.
Yeah, it's not always done properly, but neither is any other style.
It's like sweet for not-too-girly girls.
It's not ugly- maybe bright, but not ugly at all. It fits the lolita silhouette and coordinates well.
I really don't see the problem aside from it not being one's taste.

>> No.7120259

Does anyone sell replicas of that nurse set in the OP?

I get instant boners from it, but it's so hard to find and it's usually insane expensive since it's so coveted

>> No.7120283
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7120283

>>7120259
The only similar dress I have seen till now.

>> No.7120319

>>7119188
I don't like Haenuli, but their fabric/art/designs are way more appealing to me than that of F+F.

>> No.7120353

>>7119301
she had posted here before saying she's like 4'11".

>> No.7120389

>>7113910
Yes please! Almost my entire wardrobe is comprised of country or country-inspired sweet pieces. It's what got me into Lolita in the first place!

>> No.7120408

>>7119137
that would be so gorgeous if not for the random portrait in the middle, why

>> No.7121194

>>7120283
I was princessprincess picture anon earlier, when I bought this I'm pretty sure I got the smallest size yet it's at least a few inches larger than the stock photo, so be aware. And there's not as much room under the dress. (I'm 5ft1 and it comes just under the knees).

>> No.7121261

>>7119188
that you, shiverling?

>> No.7121271

>>7120319
Still overpriced for that Milanoo-quality sewing skills.
>>7119269

>> No.7121332
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>> No.7121390

>>7119137
i would wear the heck out of that thing but i can't get over the weird tassles on the bottom, why do people do that? those belong on carpets on drapes.

>> No.7121440

>>7118937
this i think could be really cute with some tweaks (a fitted dress instead of a damn corset, for one).
>>7118941
this, however, is irredeemable.
>>7118945
"hello everyone ^-^ my name is kate but i like to be called yumeneko-tan. i am a lolita seamstress and this is my first lolita dress!!! i really like asia and i found this great koi fish fabric at hobby lobby and designed this chinese-inspired dress with my mom's help! i hope u all like it, i'll be opening my storenvy 'fairy cat dance' with this design available for commission! arigatou for listening? reading? lol! mods if this post isn't allowed please delete m -_- m"
>>7118947
the one thing that i always look for on a piece are the ruffles. those have NO shape, meaning the fabric is too stiff to gather nicely or they didn't use nearly enough. uuuugh my biggest pet peeve in lolita is insufficient ruffles.

>> No.7121446

>>7118971
i really wanted that dress when it came out... sometimes i just want to be a frilly forest pirate princess okay

>> No.7122632
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>>7119034

>> No.7122639
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>> No.7122655
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7122655

Not 100% lolita, but trying to help nurse-anon with some ideas

>> No.7122661
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>> No.7122666

>>7122655
Oh wow I love this!

>> No.7122670
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7122670

Hey can we talk guro for a bit?
Everyone knows that guro is incredibly easy to fuck up, sometimes strays too far from the basics of lolita, and let's not even start on the is-it-a-costume controversy. Most girls just kind of trash a white dress with fake blood and call it there.

Does anyone have any actually good guro coords? Worn?

>> No.7122674
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>>7122670
I say worn because I'm sure some of you have seen this lovely coord. I'd love to see this in action.
I'd bet there's plenty of ways to get the bloody look without blood splatters, right? Like those red crystal necklaces that look like your neck is bleeding, or something

>> No.7122677
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7122677

>>7122674
Like this beading here

>> No.7122683
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>> No.7122686
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7122686

>>7122677
Or this bead work
Detail shot coming up next

>> No.7122687
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7122687

>>7122686
Kind of cute, right? Certainly a step up from staining your clothes?
Anyone who hates guro want to put their opinions in on using beads and embroidery?

>> No.7122696
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7122696

>>7115843
On the topic of tights that aren't skellylegs, what do you think of these ones?

>> No.7122697

>>7122677
The "blood" looks more like strawberry jam to me as the gems look like seeds covered in jam.

>> No.7122699

>>7122677
Also, wouldn't it be really bad for her to have all that black paint in her ear? It looks like it's in pretty deep and it could damage her eardrum trying to get it off.

>> No.7122705

>>7122674
This is a kinda cool concept but badly executed.

I love that syringe necklace but if my memory serves me correct, it's around $100. Welp.

>> No.7122709

>>7122697
>>7122699
I'd agree that especially the way the fabric underneath is dyed, it looks more berry-like. But imagine it with pure red beads.
On the black paint part, it's a picture from a runway. That isn't makeup that people just wear day-to-day. I don't think the paint goes that deep. From this angle, we only see the outer ear, none of the canal.

>> No.7122711
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7122711

>>7122705
What would you change about it, what makes it a poor execution?
Here's another version. I can never remember which came first.

>> No.7122726

>>7122711
That cheap looking lace by replacing it with solid fabric.

Also, the unnecessary gauze and blood splatters. Why ruin a good dress like that? Most people don't even know where to put the gauze+blood and when people do that puts it on the same level as creepy-cute fashion. Be creative, idfk.

>> No.7122727

>>7122711
The red items look like an afterthought as the actual garments are all white. The colour distribution isn't well thought out. The white tights look quite cheap, it would be best to have some textured ones. And wristcuffs don't really work with the sleeves of the OP.

As for the second image, while the socks are textured, they look cheap (especially in that colour) and are too short for the dress. And the shoes are not elegant enough for the dress, the first pair works a lot better. Maybe you could replace the neck ribbon with a red velvet one and the ties for the shoes with the same? And have a red bag? That would mesh the two colours together a bit better. I like the look of the gauze/bandages with it, too.

>> No.7122729
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>>7118970
>posting pink hideous colorway
>for shame anon

>> No.7122738

>>7122726
OH whoops, my bad, I can't into reading threads, herpa derp.

>> No.7122741
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>>7122709
I personally don't think the berry effect is a bad one, I like it. But I don't think that's what they were going for. It's clear that it's from a runway, I just feel bad for the model. Imagine scraping that out, it would hurt and could push it further down into her ear.

I personally love guro coords that have medical items incorporated into them without blood like this one.

>> No.7122745

>>7122729
That one isn't any better.

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>>7122745

>> No.7122752
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>>7122741
Excuse my confusion, but what do you mean by the medical items? The cupcake eyepatch? Or is that corset actually a backbrace?
And I agree, medical is awesome.
Here's some leg brace heels. I think the platform and height of the heels is too much, but I like the concept.

>> No.7122754

>>7122751
Nice response? But for real, you can get much nicer dresses on Taobao that are actually nice and decent quality.

>> No.7122759

>>7122752
It's a medical corset, but the eyepatch is medically themed too, I guess. Ooh, those braces would look great for a guro photoshoot. But I agree about the shoes being too much.

>> No.7122760

>>7122752
>Here's some leg brace heels.
All of the wannarexics better get used to the sight of these from their incoming osteoporosis at 30. It's actually very fitting.

>> No.7122763

>>7122729
>>7122751
Anon, stop trying to make F+F and their fuggo print happen! It's not going to happen!

>> No.7122764
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>>7122727
Cool! Thank you. I'll admit that I do kind of like the red RHS on the second, since the lace up would kind of look like bandages. But the first shoes kind of have a similar look, I suppose.

>> No.7122774

>>7122763
>thinking everyone talking positive about F+F is a single person

>> No.7122788

>>7122696
I think they're cool except for the fact the tights themselves are really beige? You can get transparent versions of the tights which I think work better..

>> No.7122838
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>>7119026

I got pic related recently, and it's pretty nice. The only iffy thing is the lace on the sleeves, but it's not stiff or anything, just...big.

>> No.7122855

>>7122774
There is the one anon who keeps talking about how sugoi that print is and they use the same writing style. I think they bought it and are butthurt whenever people point out how ugly it is. Is it you?

>> No.7122867

>>7122855
I honestly have no idea why anyone would like the print, it looks badly done and not interesting.

>> No.7122888

>>7122855
>still thinking only one person talks about the print
I don't think the other anons have the same writting style as me but hey, if you like being paranoid, not my fault.

>> No.7122892
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>>7122867
For the same reason why people like some of the tacky MMM and Haenuli prints

>> No.7123017

>>7122855

It's a pretty print. I wouldn't personally buy it, but calm down.

>> No.7123200

>>7122752
These can be faked with some ribbon, buckles, and satin, velvet or lace elastic. Just pull them on over your tights. Would actually be very cute if you added heart shaped buckles or cutesy bows.

>> No.7123276

>>7122729
I think this print is okay, it's just that they chose hidious colour ways

>> No.7123277

>>7122888
Just curious, how is it paranoid to make assumptions on 4chan that have nothing to do with you?

>> No.7123284

F+F's dresses are ugly as shit imo, but I've heard good things about their coats, so I just ordered a qt faux-fur trimmed one. All the fancy bits are removable so I can use it as a day to day coat too. My boyfriend got a load of EGA stuff, he was so happy to find a place that did fancy stuff in his size, bless. Being really huge and also a huge faggot is suffering.

>> No.7123392
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7123392

>>7123284
A few dresses are alright, but most are kinda weird imho as well, yeah. I do like the design of many coats, though.
I got pic related in custom size and I am seriously in love with it.

>> No.7123414
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7123414

>>7122709
I feel like it would look better as flat embroidery, not with the beads, or at least with less of them. Couldn't find a clothing example, but like the embroidery style on this pillow.

>> No.7123600

>>7119137
>dem tassles
It's like she's wearing a curtain

>> No.7123909

>>7113781
that's not ero, it's mall-goth

>> No.7123967

>>7123600
I saw it tagged under dolly kei, though, and that commonly uses tassels.

>> No.7123983

>>7123909
You don't know what mall-goths look like as it seems.

>> No.7124049

>>7123414
I think an applique in velvet or some interesting textured fabric would be nice.

>> No.7124233

Has anyone ever done Military Ouji, or does it just end up looking like hitler in bloomers?

>> No.7124518

>>7124233
>implying military lolita does already basically look like Hitler in bloomers

>> No.7124584

>>7124518
Is that "does" or "doesn't"?

If it's "does" then I think you're secretly an agent of the infamous Rufflebutt Gestapo, anon... :P

>> No.7124699

>>7124584
>doesn't