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>>7072229
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>>7072229
>>7072242
Some people get really pale in real life too.
Do you have any real advice?

I have a really cute UV resistant parasol from BTSSB if that's any help. They're not too expensive.

Don't go outside. This summer I have gone outside maybe ten times or so, thanks to this I'm as pale as a swan.

>>7072252
Stay inside.

>>7072214
Lots of exfoliating and sunscreen. Maybe take a milk bath with some lemon and stuff like that, just look it up. It's not too hard, I'm pretty pale now because of it. Theres also some filipino soaps that whiten your skin. Papaya soap, I believe?

>>7072258
This. I was at a point where I didn't leave my home much for 3 years and I ended up pale as fuck. Even now when I go out, I wear sunscreen, very light layers and have managed to keep the paleness.

Kojic acid soap worked well for me. Hydroquinon is better, but also has been linked to skin cancer, so I avoid it.

Kojic acid, sunscreen, and you can brighten your skin by rubbing a fresh lemon on you every day and letting it sit for a few minutes before you rinse. Be sure to exfoliate gently and regularly.

i went outside like 6 times this year
so yeah just stay indoors

Don't forget to re-apply your sunscreen every few hours.
I wouldn't suggest using lemon or anything abrasive on your skin, including those papaya soaps. It will do more harm than good.

Kojic acid and lemon juice are both acids and not good for your skin at all. If you use them be prepared to sacrifice the quality of your skin, especially if you live in a dry or cold climate. They may not cause skin cancer but they can seriously dry out your skin, create flakes, rough patches and make you age faster. Be careful with how much you exfoliate as well.

Stay indoors. Use sunBLOCK not sunscreen, one actually blocks the rays, the other absorbs it. Try to stay indoors, really. The natural way is the best way, the others may work faster but you will regret it in the long run. Papaya soaps are more gentle then the others and can help, so can moisturizing very frequently (several times a day) and using a gentle exfoliator made for everyday use.

Okay, this may sound a bit odd but when your skin is full of moisture, it becomes lighter.
I once read in a thread a couple of years ago that an anon who had to dramatically lighten his skin for a cosplay for the next day actually bought a lot of really cheap moisturizer, applied it generously on his skin and then put some more on a towel and left that towel on his skin overnight.
I have never tried this myself but apparently it's normal for your skin to lighten when moisturizer, which is also why our skin is lighter after a long bath.

Also working on that idea, drinking a lot of water will also mean your body has a lot of moisture on the inside, so definitely try drinking more of it.

>>7072259
>>7072252
Yeah, stay inside and get vitamin deficiency so you can look "pastel" and "ivory", good plan.

>>7072540
b-but people are scary ;_;

>>7072540
No go outside and get skin cancer. Obviously there is a balance between everything.

The major deficiency you'll get has to do with vitamin D, something 40% of americans are lacking, even those who do go outside regularly. Just take a few vitamins every day/week and you'll be fine.

>>7072540
>ew people have different preferences for their own skin colour that oppose mine

>>7072540
Easily fixed through diet and supplements

don't tan.

>>7072540
But sun damage is the number one cause of premature aging. Aren't you lolitas obsessed with looking young?

>>7072214
there are also things you can do to trick people's eyes into making you look paler. Having super dark hair helps (think Dita von Teese, she's a natural blonde, but dyes it black to look paler) and wearing makeup that is paler than your skin tone (try mixing in some white base). Only problem is blending well into your neck/edges of your face so people can't tell.

Get sunblock containing zinc oxide, it functions as a physical barrier to UVA/UVB rays
the MJ umbrella works too.

>>7072596
Where would one get some white base to mix into makeup?

Also, my problem is primarily on my arms, they tan like a motherfucker so quickly... how weird would it be to wear makeup on my arms?

>>7072520
My skin never looked better than it did when I regularly used kojic acid. Just moisturize well afterward with something rich in vitamin E. It's all good.

>>7072606
Illamasqua does a completely white foundation that you can use for mixing. Kind pricey, but the quality's very good.

>>7072609
Kinda*

I use BBcream Skin79 and my skin has become lighter. Its sun protection really works? (someone could recommend specific sunblocks pls)

Btw, I live in a city with a 100% humidity in winter and cloudy half a year. Should I use sunblock everyday? or just spring-summer is ok?

A lot of Asian ladies keep themselves covered when they go outside such as wearing elbow length gloves and face covering scarves, etc. You can buy stuff like that at Daiso.

>>7072649
This. I took tips from my Asian friends and always wear a big ass sun hat and keep my chest and arms covered up if I'm going to be out in the sun.

I'll wear a boat neck long sleeve cotton top if I'm out exercising , or gardening ect. If I'm just walking around town, it's sunscreen, sun hat, and a thin cotton cardigan to cover my arms.

The hats are super cute, and cover your face, shoulders and chest if your just walking a short distance.

>>7072254
I really like this one! Any idea where I can get it?
>>7072509
Thank you, and yeah I'm really sensitive to acidy things and don't think lemon would be too good for me.
>>7072520
Oh I didn't know there was a difference between those two! Thanks so much for telling me. I would've been using the wrong thing to try and get paler.
>>7072596
I don't look very good with dark hair colors.. My hair is usually a pastel purple or pink or is pure white. Also I wear a concealer that's ivory colored and it makes me look a lot paler like you said.

i heard about washing your face with rice water, i'm not sure if it works tho

Suggestions on great sunblocks that don't smell terribly of sunblock?

And what's your favorite sugar scrub recipe?

Whitening products....they're literally all over asia

>>7072696
I heard sugar scrubs were terrible for you, is that true?

>>7072585
trippy

Do regular umbrellas protect from UV much? I really like this Little Twin Stars umbrella but it doesn't say it protects you from UV.

>>7072229

Kojic acid is pretty effective. I recommend Kojie San. Their soap is really good. I just started on their lotions and creams, so I can't say what I feel about those yet. Also, lemon and sugar facial scrubs every other day. (Every day is too damaging.)

Avoid going out during peak hours of the day, when the sun is most damaging, and actually, avoid going out in daylight in general. However, stock up on vitamin D supplements. You'll be low on it, guaranteed.

A parasol and high spf sunblock are your weapons of choice. Seriously. Carry one everywhere and never leave the house without a good layer of sunblock and you'll be paler than your average basement-dwelling oldfag.

>7072953

To add, UV parasols are the best. Look for ones with reflective surfaces. If you can't find one, get a white one, as those will reflect the most.

>>7072953

To add, UV parasols are the best. Look for ones with reflective surfaces. If you can't find one, get a white one, as those will reflect the most.

>>7072861
harsh scrubs with actual crystals in them, like sugar, are more bad than good for most areas of the skin. but on arms and legs if you apply very very weak pressure it's okay. but NEVER on your face.
never use lemon either.
there was an amazing YouTube video about DIY face masks and treatments that talked about how bad 99% of them are but i can't find it.
does anyone know?

>>7072585
the fuck
their whole left eye sank

>>7072606
Weird? I dont know.
Practical? Hardly. I'd be pissed if you'd have bumped into something of mine with makeup on.

>>7072990
I don't know about the specific video, but I would be interested in seeing it if anyone does find it.

>>7072625
Yes wear sunscreen in the winter and cloudy days too!
It's like when people say "oh I'm underwater, I dont need sunscreen on the lower half of my body". Water acts as a magnifying glass and intensifys the amount of sunlight on you, so you end up being red on the bottom and light on top if you do that. With clouds, just the same! And some say, even more protection on a cloudy day.

>>7072880
Almost positively no, the UV filter is nearly always put in dark coloured (mostly black) umbrellas because the stuff it is is a grey-ish colour.
Get like an $10 uv meter if you're curious.

>>7073054
They probably also had a stroke or some other issue that caused the muscles in that side of the face to stop working. That usually causes facial features to droop a little.

>>7073168
unlucky left side then

>>7072559
there's a lot of evidence that dietary vitamin D isn't absorbed/used nearly as efficiently as the stuff you make when exposed to sunlight. literally all you need is 10-15 minutes a day, not nearly long enough to get a tan.

>>7073056
Why? It's not like foundation makeup on your face comes off on everything it touches. I have problems with touching my face a lot, and have never had makeup come off on my hands. As long as it's finished properly, it shouldn't be too much of an issue.

>>7073297
Are you in any chance associated or accepting of Homestucks?

A good way to get really pale skin is to have the right genes. If you tan really easily, just embrace that and deal with it.

>>7072606
MAC face and body. It stays on really well, since you know, it works on your body as well as your face. It comes in white, but I don't know if that's a pro only product, but you should be able to get it. It's like 35usd or something and the bottles are huge.

>>7073336
I am already pale, I just tan -easily-. I'm not actually tan.
Don't be a bitch and just say "deal with it"

>>7073336
I am already pale, I just tan -easily-. I'm not actually tan.
Don't be just say "deal with it", that's really rude when there are obviously things I can do to get more pale.

in asia, papaya soap is pretty popular for getting light-skinned. you can buy it at any asian supermarket.

>>7073308
No, I never read the comic and don't care about it at all, but don't see what that has to do with anything?

This is kind of related, what do I do about being really pink/red? I'm pale as a ghost, but my face turns pink easily. I'm not always pink, my body is a nice milky white-gold. For some reason though, my face is a little ruddier, and usually kind if red. Do I just have shit genes?

>>7072540
You do know that vitamin supplements exist and work right? Some people cannot go out in the sun due to skin conditions, and they just take a vitamin supplement and are just fine.

>>7073604
It's pretty normal, I think. I'm the same way and it's because the blood vessels in my face are much closer to the surface. Not much you can do about it except to use green and yellow based foundation and concealers. I also stay away from pink/red blushes and stick to ones that are more gold/bronze/orange toned instead

>>7073168
No they were a truck driver in the US and the left side was exposed to the sun more often and for longer periods than the right. that is why this picture is used as an example of the effect the sun has on your skin.

>>7073054
>>7073168
>>7073263
the pic is a truck driver, their left side was always exposed to sun by the window while the other side of the face wasn't

>>7073601
Because they are known for painting there whole body grey, not sealing the makeup, and getting body paint on everything. Are you new?

>>7073612
I'm not new, and I'm aware of the issues with bodypaint, though I've never worn it. I'm just saying it's kind of silly to automatically assume regular makeup is going to get everywhere when people wear it on their face all the time without issue

Honestly, there are very few people who have perfect ivory skin. You can definitely find out where your palest natural shade is by staying inside and covering up when you go outside. The least unhealthy way to achieve the skin tone you want is probably makeup. Like someone else said, darkish hair.

I'd be weary of skin whitening products or home remedies, even if they can make people's skin paler. Products that are highly acidic or basic can damage the lipid layer of your skin, causing dryness, premature aging, and photosensitivity. So, definitely no lemons. Also, sugar crystals have sharp edges that leave tiny lacerations in your skin. It's fine to use every once in a while, but its probably best you leave it out of your beauty regimen.

You already know the answer, stay inside or wear sunscreen.

Pale skin isn't all that great though, my skin is transparent on my upper eyelids and my chest and that shit is not kawaii.

>>7073699
I don't know, the skin on my legs and chest are highly translucent. I probably wouldn't be as fond of them if you weren't able to see the vains, but I suppose not everyone would share my sentiment

>>7072990
>>7073058
Do's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG6_H5caJ6A
Don'ts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lrZqiqoZGA

>>7072990
really? fuck
my boyfriend scrubed my face with sugar when i had pimples (thank you ovulation)
but it actually improved my skin that time...

>>7073604
I've heard that had to do with eating a lot of red-meat. Try to cut back.

>>7073861
wtf is up with these kind of grand-ma style advice?
So you're telling me that a person who eats chicken breast every single day of their lives will always be whiter than a person who eats red meat in their lives?
If that is the case, we may have to contact every vegetarian and vegan out there and warn them that they will turn green from those salads~

But seriously now, that's now how your skin's pigments work.

>>7074356
Because none of us are fucking doctors and you're asking for advice on goddamned 4chan. So, you're obviously going to get a mixed bag of answers. Go see a dermatologist if it's such a problem. You can't ask a question on the internet and then bitch about accuracy of answers.

>>7073832
that's really abnormal. especially for /helping acne/
what happens, generally, when you use harsh crystals to scrub/exfoliate your face is they cause tiny tiny tiny micro rips/cuts in the skin that allow more bacteria in.
but hey, if it works.

>>7074356
this. you will not lessen your red pigmentation by eating more chicken and less beef.

Any tips for getting rid of a tan faster?

I just want to even out my skin to my natural shade. I tan extremely easily, today I spent like 15 minutes outside and now I have the worst farmers tan (like 10 shades of difference, literally).

I know staying inside, covering the skin is essential, but anything else? I also have never exfoliated in my life, tips for doing it, favorite products, etc?

Thanks guys

>>7074393
exfoliate and moisturize regularly, promote new skin growth to get rid of the tanned skin ~
my favorite exfoliate is exfolikate, but that's very expensive and more for the face... for the body you can literally just use a luffa with any body wash and that will exfoliate. using products with crystals or beads is not so good but for your like- body it's okay. it wont add any exfoliating a luffa wouldn't do on it's own though.

don't use skin lightening treatments are bad, avoid them. no lemon juice. nothing like that. you will just damage your skin more.

also i feel your pain. living in CA again i spent /way/ more time outside than i ever did before and i'm like. normal pale now. not really pale. but my torso and legs are still very pale. so i'm all uneven and uhg

>>7074393
I don't feel like I know enough about tans to give you advice on that but please don't use sugar or salt for the scrub.
I like using semolina(ridiculously cheap) with a bit of honey and some olive oil to make my own exfoliator, but if you want an over-the-counter one, make sure the scrubs are reeeally tiny and make sure you moisturize properly afterwards.

>>7074360

I was noticing improvement in my acne with a sugar scrub too, but also, I used honey in it, which is fairly antimicrobial. I'm not sure what to do now. Most of my acne is hormone and stress related, so seems like I can never get an edge over it during the school year.

>>7074417
eradiKate is like, one of the best kill zits literally over night products i have ever seen. but it's fairly costly. HOWEVER it lasts forever as it's an actual spot treatment like no rubbing in you just dot it on your face so a tiny amount goes a very long way.

acne, unfortunately, is not a one size fits all or even like- realistically can be given advice online. it's all trial and error until you find something that works for you. i'm trained in skin care and while i've finally figured out how to keep my skin from breaking out i can't find anything to reduce my natural redness or even my skin tone.
shit sucks.

>>7074400
>exfolikate

Amazon gave me one for $13, another for $65 and the last $120...I-Is there one in particular you would recommend?

>>7074423
buy from sephora. that seems... sketchy.
it's from the Kate Summervile line.

So scrubs with beads are bad? I have been using biore's scrub on my face (pic related), would it be better to stop? I'm a noob at skincare

>>7074431
i think beans are okay, but crystals are bad. do they feel scratchy?

i just avoid beads and everything and let the chemicals exfoliate me instead of like, trying to scratch off my dry skin. BHA is the bees knees

>>7074431
Those beads don't seem too big, so it should be okay as you don't apply too much pressure when washing yourself with them.
I'd recommend using your last two fingers from each hand(pinky and ring finger)as they have less strenght in them so it won't do as much damage.
So by all means, if you have oily/combination skin tone, keep that as it's both oil-free and contains salicylic acid, just be careful with it, or avoid using it every day(maybe every other day?).

>>7074431
If you're going to use anything with particles, jojoba beads are apparently the most suitable for skin. For exfoliating, its better to do it chemically with a lotion or something instead of a manual scrub. The problem with scrubs kicks in when you use it regularly.

I have skin that tans really easily as well as my dad is Mauritian. I love having pale skin too so I try and stay out of the sun as much as I possibly can or if I cant avoid it, I try not stay out too long. If I have too then I wear SPF 50 sunscreen and it works amazingly. That plus I cover up most areas with long clothing, if its not incredibly hot. I still find though that my skin while being quite pale for someone of my heritage, I still have a slight yellow pigmented undertone to my skin. So I'm not exactly as pale as I would like. So I wear NC 15 liquid and powder foundation by MAC its incredible! it gives me that white porcelain/pale look that I want and its great coverage and it stays on all day without needing to be touched up. NC 15 is the palest shade you can get from MAC so I highly recommenced it, if you're in a similar position as me! Its a little pricey (well here in Australia it is) but its worth it. I hope this helped. :)

SUNSCREEN SMELLS TERRIBLE
What sunscreens don't smell like sunscreen?
I fucking hate the smell of sunscreen.

So, alot of people here mentioned papaya soap. What brands would people recommend?

>>7074510
Baby sunscreen usually smells less bad as it's unscented and as hypo-allergenic as possible.

I think exfoliating helps in lightening your skin a bit. I've been using a 10% salicylic acid peel and after a few times my face seems to be a bit lighter.

>What are some good ways to get pale skin?

Stop partying & slutting around all the time and instead stay at your home all the time / in your mom's basement pereferably, and play video games and post on 4chan all day long. If you want we can play LoL together, I main Annie so I can tell you some tricks :)

>>7075303
Oh hurr durr, just read the last few posts of the thread that talk about exfoliating.

>>7075305
>Stop partying & slutting around
I don't do that but aren't parties at night anyways?

>>7074510
I just put on good perfume over it.
I just got Bath and Bodyworks Pink Chiffon today, it smells fucking amazing like cotton candy.

>>7075305
>video games
>LoL

Disgusting, only gsg and dress-up games are acceptable.

I've been pale almost all of my life and vegetarian for a few years, go to doctors for other reason, Anon has anyone checked your Vitamin D or B12, found out I was deficient suffering from B12 anemia and Vit D deficiency, vitamins + shots, don't look so sick, feel better, still pale but not as pale but I look a lot better.

Anon please get some sun and remember to eat foods high in B12.

Sunblock for when you aren't getting your 10-20 minutes of sun will help as with staying inside, just make sure to take care of your body.

>>7075345
>a girl playing gsg
You enjoy losing a lot then, I take it?

>>7075349
No, I enjoy conquering Europe and killing Russians.

>>7075363
с-сука... блять!

>>7075368
No, it is you who is the suka.

>>7075305
> Playing LoL
What a pleb.

>>7075087
Extract Papaya-calamansi soap. Kojie san kojic acid soaps (but it's not really papaya soap).
the most recent whitening soap fad in the philippines is a combination of kojic soaps and papaya soaps... Kojic papaya soaps-they do work on lightening but aside from papaya soaps, they all dry your skin out unless you use them moderately

I've spent a good portion of my life being self conscious over my pale skin + been mocked dozens of times due to the widely believed concept of "beauty" includes being tan for some reason, so whenever I looked in the mirror and saw my complexion I thought "gross/ugly". This thread actually made me feel a little better about myself, as though I should stop worrying and instead embrace my light (almost porcelain shaded). It boggled my mind to see people WANTING pale skin since I thought no one found it beautiful, so thanks guys. Sorry I can't offer much advice aside from "become someone that is at his risk for melanoma skin cancer and has a much easier time burning to a crisp rather than tanning when exposed to sunlight."

>>7075344

good advice


Also it isnt just "being low on vit d!" thats the problem
Women have a high chance of getting osteoporsis not having enough calcium just alone (not everyone i can bet drinks 2+ glasses of milk a day let alone a cup of spinach or something) and since Vit D is related for better absorbtion of calcium into the bones you're gonna get yourself some pain in the long run... so watch yourselves.
(I'm also aiming for pale too)