/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I posted this at the end of the last thread, but it didn't bump, so:
>>7056892
>AatP stock pictures up.

I liked the Velveteen one too. I can't believe how much of a fucking mess that skirt is. I liked the Beret and blouse too, but I doubt I'll buy anything from this series, even though the velveteen JSK is tempting.

I don't even know if it would fit, since I'm 32-24-35 or so.
How forgiving are AatP's measurements on a smaller frame?

>>7057202
I think I'd like that dress if the fabrics were different. I normally love velveteen, and tartan can look nice sometimes too, but that cut and style of the dress makes the two look horrid together. In my opinion, anyway.

>>7057202
I feel like the emblem looks really odd just floating on the skirt. It's not large enough to look intentional.

>>7057242
Like a watermark

>What are your favorite pieces in your wardrobe?
Pretty much everything, but in particular IW Dollhouse skirt in lavender and AP Marionette Doll in lavender
>What makes your favorite lolita pieces your favorites?
I collect shop/street prints, Dollhouse is my favorite of those and it's got a really nice washed out lavender background. Marionette Doll just has an awesome design,I love colour blocked designs. I wish I could find it in red as well but it hasn't come up for sale that I've seen.
>Are there any trends/styles that you particularly like or dislike?
Like: ott classic and gothic, transparent socks, awesome patterned tights, chiffon
Dislike: most Lolita shoes, bunny bear bags, acrylic jewellery.

>>7057202
I think stock measurements usually run large...

>>7057242
It would have been nice if they had done a few emblems in a pattern at the bottom maybe. I'm not in love with it, but I like it better than the other designs.

>>7057321
Yeah, i know they run a little larger, especially if they're the outer side of the garment. I'm just wot sure how large. I always want to order blouses, but I worry that they'll be clownishly big. I need to look for more tops with corset lacing, like MM or VM.

I bet your wardrobe of street prints is really cute! I think only certain people can pull off color blocked prints. I love seeing it done well.
I share your dislike of acrylic jewelry, anon. That shit ain't cute.

Hey girls. AP restocked the DDC tights! If you missed them the first time, grab them while you can!

>>7057419
Do you (or anyone else) think that they might have extras up for grabs from the reservation?

Also, I remember an anon asking about it in the last thread, but can I get clarification on A+F and CC's hold/10 day policies?
It looks like CC has stopped doing it. Does A+F still allow you to wait 10 days before paying? Should I notify them that it will be a few days or no?

>>7057704
Also, what do the points do? I have ~200 saved up; is it even worth using them? I didn't see the points explained anywhere on the site.

Anyone have a moment where you start thinking "what the fuck am I doing in this fashion"? Grant it, the other night when this thought crossed my mind I was stoned (migraine), so I don't really know the reasons behind it, but I wonder if I'm alone in having this thought cross my mind? I love the fashion, and don't plan on leaving any time soon, but does anyone else ever feel like this?

>>7057728
i felt like that for months and then i decided to sell all my stuff since i wasn't wearing it. i've never looked back.

for the first 2-3 months i had the same "why do i feel like this, i adore lolita!" but now i honestly don't know what i saw in it. it's adorable, sure, but i had a wardrobe worth like... more than 5 grand. the fuck was i doing.

>>7057704
I think they re-released them for those that missed out on the original release. Which is great because I missed them myself. I was pretty convinced I couldn't fit AP's tights being larger-sized but I have such tiny legs and a flat ass that other AP tights I've bought since then fit. They also re-released the Parka.

>>7057728
I have those thoughts, especially when I look at my bank account. Then I look at my closet and smile. Like, Okay, I'm okay being broke right now. I have pretty things.

>>7057419

Thank you so much, got an ivory pair! Now to just you know, get my hands on the actual JSK.

Not that I'm sure I'd wear them together, but they're cute as fuck so ...

>>7057728
I think I've felt like that a couple times, but I always have those moments about anything I do. It was much worse when I was cosplaying. I just wasn't cut out to be a cosplayer. With lolita, I rarely feel that way, and once I put an outfit on, all the bad feelings about it disappear. If I got dressed and was still like, "what the fuck and I doing," it would be time to sell.

Also, I hope your head is feeling better today.

not really. I haven't wore pants/jeans/shorts in over 11 years. T-shirts are also something that I don't own. So even when I'm not in lolita I'm dressed up pretty well (nice skirt, button down shirt) So for me lolita is really just clothes. It's oh that's a nice dress.

In a way some of my more extreme items that are OTT I sometimes think why did I get this. I can only wear it on the weekends.

>>7057728

all the time, especially if I haven't worn lolita in awhile, I'll see other girls on tumblr and they either look super good because they're japanese, or super shitty, and I'm just like everyone looks super retarded in this fashion.

Then I actually go through and dress up and suddenly I realize why I love this fashion so much

>>7057782
That's how I feel too.

As a long-time cosplayer there were times where I was like "Why the hell am I doing this?" I have a lot of skill, but I always end up procrastinating and half-assing my costumes. I'd always find pictures of my costumes and feel terrible about myself and what I'd made. I realized I looked so shitty in most of them. In Lolita I almost always look great. Of course, there is always room for improvement, but it's a lot more positive for me.

Can navy and black mix?
Navy JSK with black blouse,tights, accessories for example

>>7057728
I have those thoughts, and think of selling things off.
But because I'm tall and plus sized, getting a wardrobe back if I change my mind will be rather difficult.
Don't know what to do.

>>7057911
With black blouse and tights, then navy shoes and accessories, yes

This might sound a bit silly but let me try to phrase this:
I really don't like wearing blouses, I usually just wear blazers or boleros or cardigans over most of my dresses. But I still want it to look like I'm wearing a blouse.

So I guess what I'm asking is if there's such thing as a mock collar so to speak that I can buy?

>>7057994
yes, there are.
if you search "detachable collar" on etsy/storenvy/taobao, you should come up with some results. i know unicorn shop has at least one, and i'll try to find my bookmark for an etsy that sold them.
most of the ones i've seen have only been appropriate for sweet looks, though, as they're usually fairy kei-ish.

here's one, and if you click on the 5th or 6th icon/category on the side, you'll find a few more.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w1017-2283506906.22.ZRqdEd&id=16049771969&

>>7057190
I just want to know, what are the lolita communities like for people of other races? Yes, I know for the most part asians and white people are welcome, but what about hispanic, black, mixed and indian? Is there any stigma against skin color/different hair texture/stronger features?

>>7058009
Thank you very much.

>>7058027
You probably will be fine as long as you know how to dress your self and don't make a big deal out of the color of your skin or what race you are.

>>7058027
There are minority lolitas and you really shouldn't care what prejudiced pasties think. ;) Yes there is a stigma but honesty where isn't there a stigma? You can see some brown lolis on shades of lolita. I don't know where else.

>>7058027
No, unless you're really ugly or they're racist. Horse chan from the SoCal comm gets hate but it's not cause she's white or anything, it's because her face is frickin weird

>>7057994
"dickies" are also something to look into in addition to just detachable collars

>>7058027
No, you gotta look glam though. I like the style of that NY lolita with the big afro hair. Like the only problem against them is the amount of ita messes and that there might be less people of your race if you're in a smaller city.

Is 23 too old to start getting into Lolita? I wanted to dress it before but I didn't have the money. Now that I have a stable job I can actually afford cute dresses.

>>7058222
Nah, you're good.

What are your favorite pieces in your wardrobe?
my BTSSB jsks. specifically Mother Goose Starry Sky
What makes your favorite lolita pieces your favorites?
Mother Goose- because my boyfriend bought it for me and I love the print

Are there any trends/styles that you particularly like or dislike?
Likes: non lolita shoes, patterned tights, fur, floral hair pieces
Dislikes: looking like a baby, patterned tights with everything, lolita shoes, deer makeup & antlers

>>7057190
IWs pictures suck balls. Do you think these would be the same colour in real life? I can't find any other matching hair accessories :(

I love the use of real animal skulls in Gothic lolita

>>7058474
Email them and ask, though I hear they are slow to respond lately.

>>7057738
hey you can buy it all back with your sweet camwhoring job!!! :DDD

Discussion: How much is too much? Let's discuss our limits
Socks:
Head bows:
Dresses:

>>7058587
>Socks
Always tights, always taobao.
>Headbows & Dresses
I don't buy anything I'm not completely in love with, and I always research the price so it varies. If it's hard to find, I often pay anything, unless it's so scalped it mockable, but I haven't come across that yet. So I guess I don't have much of a limit here, unless you count the fact that I'm extra picky about what I like and then buy.

>Discussion: How much is too much? Let's discuss our limits
Socks: 30$, but I rarely spend more than 20-25
Head bows: 35$
Dresses: $250 I'm willing to spend an extra 25 if I'm fiending for it

>>7058587
Socks: Not more than $20 (I'm rough with my feet and they never last ;_; )
Headbows: Not a fan of them.
Dresses: It all depends on how much I want them and how impossible to find they are.. Wouldn't pay over $500 for anything though.

>>7058587
Socks: I'd pay up to $70 probably if I really liked them, especially for tights.
Head bows: Not much more than $35, flower corsages (i.e. VM) a bit more, and bonnets a lot more.
Dresses: I haven't paid over $160 yet but I'd pay at least $350 for something I wanted quite a bit (and I'd be willing to pay probably $450 if that was a good price for something like Puppet Circus or some shit). Somehow I haven't found anything I liked that much for sale yet even though I have a huge wish list.

>>7058587
>socks
i only buy tights. i'd buy it if it were a really good pattern/print for maybe idk $25 tops? it's just not worth it to me

>headbows
i don't wear them so i can't say

>dresses
ops: ~$250, jsks: ~$200. obviously if i really want something bad another ~$25 won't hurt, but those prices even for dresses i'm dying for. i simply can't excuse myself for spending so much money on a single article of clothing when i have other responsibilities to attend to. (this is just a personal thing, though; i'd love to be one of those girls with a bigger budget)

>>7057728
I have definitely felt that way. Recently I feel like I don't even want to wear lolita, just salopettes. And rich coloured salopettes. I still love sweet so much though... I love AP jewelry, sweet blouses, tea party shoes, AP socks.... butI want to wear my wine coloured salopette with my dark blue socks and no pastels. Pic related, a dream coord.

>>7057911
If they are spread evenly, yes. But adding another colour like red or gold will probably make it better.

>>7058624
I think a silver would be nice too

Good to see that everyone still breaks BtssB's servers.

Does anyone know if Lief's Gardenberries actually does run or not? I've heard some people say it does, and some say it doesn't.

>>7057202

Late reply, I actually posted the skirt as a second choice purchase since I can't justify the velveteen jsk. I'm rethinking it now though, you're right, it does look kind of a mess. Whelp, guess I'm sitting this release out then.


As for those measurements, honestly I don't recommend it -- I lost only an inch from my bust and two inches from my waist and ended up selling some of my custom taobao things as they don't fit me anymore, of the jsks that are left, most of them are visibly too big and wrinkle a lot, I just like them too much to part with them. Your measurements are even further off than just an inch or two, I think you'll end up having to take this to a tailor to make it look good. Depending on how much you like the jsk, may or may not be worth the extra cost, you won't be able to make back the money if you decide later you didn't like it all that much after all.

>>7058604
OP of this post here, I just crossed a dress off of my wishlist and it still was only a little over $160. May my good fortune continue.

>>7058604
What about crowns?

>>7057728
Yes. I remember only a few months ago when I thought spending $60 on a dress off auction was way too much. I also live in a small city where I will literally never wear anything that isn't casual and this does not work because I am dangerously in love with OTT classic. When I actually think about actually spending $200 on an actual dress I kind of have a mini ohgodwhatamIdoing heartattack. I'm not leaving soon either, though. My plan is to stop, save up my money, plan a trip to Japan and spend it there because it will be worth it. And then I will move where I want to because my degree will be finished and I can wear all of the frills and people will still stare but mostly be used to it and nobody will know me anyway so no fucks will be given. /lifestory

>>7058677
I can't see myself wearing a crown, I think only cute asians in OTT styles can pull it off and it would probably look dumb on me. I'd try one out for $15 though.

>>7057704
Yeah, I got an email from Closet Child yesterday saying that they were no longer doing holds because it caused them to get backed up with orders, and that you now have to pay for your order immediately.

On a related note, I just got hit with my first customs charge. £25 on a package worth £45 (£20 of that being shipping). Yes, I'm a little miffed. It would've only been a tenner if it wasn't for Parcelforce's pay-us-extra-for-doing-our-jobs fee. Oh well.

What are everyone's thoughts on Haenuli's Antique Angel series? I dismissed it when she first showed previews on her fb, but I think the new photos make it look better or something. I quite like both this and the mint x chocolate, but I'm not really sure if I'm just swayed by better photos and will be dissappointed by how busy the print is when it arrives

>>7058695

I think the skirt's too busy to match any kind of blouse though, or there must another reason I hate this version so much and like the other one equally much?

How big does JetJ's size 2 garment runs? Does it run small or does it run big? This has been my absolute dream dress, but according to the official measurements my boobs are 3cm too big for the maximum bust measurement. Do I have hope, cgl anons? Any at all?

>tfw too fat to fit dream dress

>>7058717
If you buy new from JetJ they can custom make it bigger or smaller by up to about 5cm

>>7058587
Socks: over $50 but I will pay more if it's something to complete a set. I just feel miserable when they get worn.

Headbows: Again, over $50, but I'll also pay more if it's the matching headbow to something that I don't have the headbow to. But plain headbows? Oh hell no.

Dresses: Anything more than $400 for sought-after pieces. I prefer to stay around the $250 mark as much as possible, but I've got a few things in my wardrobe that were around $400.

>>7058689
Do you mean that £12.50 fee (I think I remember it being near that amount)? I've never really understood it and it's always irked me, even if the tax is £100, the £12.50 kills me more than the tax since I don't understand it.

>>7058718
Sadly I missed it when it's up on the online shop and now I can only hunt for the secondhand ones. But I'll keep that in mind, anon. Thanks!

>>7058720
It's gone up to £13.60 ish now, but yeah, that. I don't mind paying customs, because it's kind of, the law, but Parcelforce have already been paid to deliver my shit, why do I have to pay them again?

stop with the fluffy pantaloons bullshit. it's gay as hell.
cosplay in some fishnet bodysuits or something.

fuck

>>7058730
:3c

>>7058717

They have that B-cup/high bust problem same as Baby or AatP. I'm definitely within measurements of the library jsk (bust is 92cm, dress is 93cm), but somehow the bust darts are placed too high and I need to wear a sports bra to wear the dress, so if you're an additional inch bigger than the measurements, I'd suggest getting a sports bra or binder and see if you can get your measurements down below the official ones.

>>7058695

I find myself being swayed by the new pictures as well. Need to see the unedited cute on the mannequins, but I am loving the mint and pink color ways too! Would shoot for the OP if it looks good.

>>7058697

I don't like the blouse or her hair and headress, but I think the skirt could definitely work in a nice coord. Those things are bugging me more than the skirt alone:

>>7058222

I wouldn't think so. I turn 23 in February next year and I haven't even put together a coord yet! I've been buying some items and accesories little by little for the past year, I too also got a better job as of late, so I can finally devote more money to it.

Can someone tell me how a sports bra should fit? I tried one with a dress the other day and it looked really bizarre, I'm wondering if the one I have is too small.

I'd like to avoid binders if I can, I've heard they cause health problems,etc.

>>7058744
post a picture and we'll tell you if it fits properly.

>>7058735
I have quite of a wide ribcage but my cup is not that big (I'm a 36B), if I bind down my boobs to fit the dress will it fit quite alright?

>>7058753
Not sure, we'd need a picture to be certain.

post pic guys, come on.

oh hey everyone i was just reading this thread and it's totally a great thread. BTW I'm a girl.

I agree with anon though, it would probably be better if the people asking for titty advice to post some pictures so we can help them out more.

>>7058717
Not sure if this helps but JetJ skirts run big from my experience.
Two size 1 skirts I bought recently are more like a 70 cm waist irl. The JSK's I own fit just right though, so I'd say the official measurements are more accurate for the dresses. I wouldn't recommend buying this type of dress if you are above the max. measurements, it looks like it would cause serious boob loafing on bigger busts.

Anyone else have problems with their waist size? I have a pretty small bust and am generally slim, but my true waist size measures about 74cm. As a lover of Classic, it's a pretty bad feeling, man. Has MM released anything bigger on the waist lately?

>>7058753

I'm >>7058735

What I'd recommend is to try on the sports bra/bind, then measure yourself again. If you can get below the measurements, preferably an inch, you're good, go for it.

If you're still above, forget it, it's unlikely to fit or look good.

If you're very close, you'll have to make a judgement call. I think an underbust of 91cm is fine, but the sports bra/binder may redistribute your mass, so try it on first and check the measuremnts again to make sure you're under the dress measurements.

Good luck, anon.

>What are your favorite pieces in your wardrobe?
My favourite pieces are my Cat Window skirt, A black x white velveteen Meta Op from 2004 and my new favourite is Merry Making In The Ghost Town JSK I in Wine.
>What makes your favorite lolita pieces your favorites?
Cat Window was the first piece I ever fell in love with.I hunted for it for quite some time but was always a little too late. The purple and black are gorgeous together.

The velvet Meta Op is another favourite as it is beautiful, I adore velvet and it's so very old school. It also keeps me very warm.

I'm really enjoying my Merry Making In The Ghost jsk, it's a brilliant print and looks stunning. It's my first AATP jsk and I really like coordinating it.
>Are there any trends/styles that you particularly like or dislike?
I really like Gothic Lolita, I'm not much of a fan of OTTP sweet, I love florals and I'm really glad that many brands produce floral prints.

OK I BUTTMAD. I'M GOING TO CAP A BITCH.
I just read a review of some anon who got their Merrymaking in the Ghost Town on August 2nd.
I ordered mine in July and I have got nothing yet, no JSK tracking number, no shipping confirmation, nothing.
Should I still wait or it's time already to e-mail Baby about my order?

To the /x/ lolitas out there,do you think I could have better chances to find my dreamdress if I use the deep web?

>>7058817
I have the same problem, anon. My bust/hips are fairly small (84/81.5), but my waist (71) is big for how slim I am. It's like due to being so short that there is hardly any space between the bottom of my ribs and top of my hips as well as my generally wide (shoulders are big, too) and straight build.
I will never be able to wear nice classic brands.

>>7057728
>everyone in my city wears same: jeans, patagonia jacket, broncos t-shirt
>no interesting clothes as far as the eye can see
>hipsters errywhere is only "alternative fashion"

>tfw I'm scared an ivory blouse/black skirt coord is "too much" for public just due to skirt volume/lack of anyone else wearing anything different, ever

I've never even seen a proper trad goth here, and I've lived in this city for more than a year.

>pic related: the skirt from my hopefully first publicly worn cood

>>7058907
This is me, except my waist is around 78cm and my bust is around 82cm. I look slim and everything, but unshirred brand can be very tight around my waist. I don't have any unshirred JSKs, though, so I don't know if they'd be loose around my bust.

Speaking of which, I have a Fancy Egg skirt by Meta. I bought it NWT (I assume) from ODIP, and I'm a little confused, 'cause while it has shirring at the back of the waistband, it's completely pointless, because the elastic doesn't actually stretch more than about half an inch. Is it meant to be like that, or has it been stretched out and the skirt is just tiny?

>>7058924
...au-ausfag?

It's up for reservation now and the other JSK is already sold out in 3/4 colors.

This version doesn't seem to be as popular though, so maybe it won't be too expensive when i actually have money

>>7058987
>broncos t-shirts
sorry, Colorado, USA :(

>>7059030
Is there any way of figuring out what this is going to cost before reserving?

>>7058924
I get comments even when I'm wearing a nice-ish normal outfit with a casual dress from H&M, however reactions to my clothes are generally positive. Even in full-on lolita, most people are just curious or say it's cute. There will be some teenage assholes who snicker or roll their eyes (the irony being that they usually look like complete shit themselves, because teenagers), but most people are pretty decent if you look put-together and well-groomed.
Basically you'll attract attention, but it won't necessarily be negative. Just be prepared to answer questions about what you're wearing and why.

>>7059030
How does one even reserve from baby? I'm a bit of a newbie but I really need this jsk.

>>7058587
Socks: I have a real difficult time paying even retail price, but then again I bought emily temple's chocolate otks for like 70 USD so
Head bows: I only have 2 headbows and that's only because they were 20 dollars
Dresses: I bought the dream sky re-release for 340, and honey cake for about that price - these were the dresses that kinda got me into loli so I didn't mind dropping that kinda dough. Most other dresses would be 150 and below.

>>7058907
I'm pretty short as well! (5'0) I never really thought it was due to that. The advantage of being pretty short is that Lolita hems hit all the right places for me.

>>7058948
I own an unshirred Victorian Maiden piece that actually fits comfortably, but only because the shape of the dress allowed for it. I almost died of happiness when I put it on. But yeah, most skirts tend to be really uncomfortable on me. I have to move clasps and stuff most of the time and not use waist ties. I've also found that most Meta skirts don't really stretch out too much. Sorry about that!

We should form a support group though.

Have any of you you had any luck with shapewear at all? Like, how much does it really take in?

>>7058948
You can fit into unshirred brand? I have one unshirred JSK by Baby, and it's tight as hell as me. I'm >>7058907.

Also, Fancy Egg's waist measurement is really small, iirc. I wanted to buy it at one point but it was at least 2 inches too small for me. Lolibrary isn't working for me for some reason, or I'd check.

>>7059108

Innocent World is your friend, anon. A lot of their stuff have forgiving waist measurements.

I'm about to trade for the first time and this might be a stupid question but.. How does it usually work? Do I pay for the shipping of my dress to her or the shipping of her dress to me?

>>7059120
Pay the shipping of your dress to her

>>7059120
I also have a question about trades:
How do you sort of ensure that the other person sends their dress as well? I'm terrified of sending a piece and being out anywhere from 100 to 300 dollars.

>>7059106
Oooh, I love VM, but I just assumed it wouldn't fit. I'll have to track down some of their stuff. I don't mind, it still fits, it's just quite tight. Not uncomfortably so, but just enough that I really notice when I take it off. A support group for rectangular lolis sounds like a cool idea, haha.

>>7059108
Just about, and only skirts (like I said, I don't have any unshirred dresses). Maybe it varies between brand. The waist measurement of Fancy Egg is listed as 63cm though, so I'm now even more confused as to why I can get it on, haha. Although 78 cm is my resting measurement, and I do have a slight beer gut (gross, I know); if I suck my stomach in I can probably take off 10cm or so fairly easily.

>>7059120
I'd also like to ask about trades; how do you make sure they're legit? Do you just have to check feedback? The idea of a trade fills me with terror; what happens if one item gets lost in the post or they send you an empty box? Are you just fucked? It all seems so unsafe to me, especially trades done over 4chan where people use throwaways all the time.

>>7059148
I think it's 63 plus the shirring, which would explain why you can get it on but it doesn't really fit?
W/r/t sucking in: just beware that sucking in often increases other measurements such as bust/ribcage. If you want to work on being able to tighten up your stomach without really sucking in, try doing stomach vacuum exercises.
It sounds ridiculous and /fit/, but... I've been doing them since I was really young (maybe 5 or 6) when I realized I could suck in like crazy and scare my cousins, and I've always had a really tight/toned stomach, even when I'm going through a chubby and inactive period.
You'll also be able to tighten your stomach muscles and reduce your measurements without really "sucking in."

Does anyone know a good petticoat that minimizes butt-poof? Whenever I wear a petti it looks like one it looks like it's meant to be worn under one of those historical dresses (pic related.)

>>7059144
>Reply

You can't ensure it. Even if you both used tracking/proof of shipping, one of you has to take the plunge and send it off without confirmation that the other party has done the same. Even with proof of shipping, how do you know they've sent your item? They could send some mouldy old shoes. I think the safest way to go about trades is have the person with less supportive feedback ship first and provide proof of shipping before the other person does.

Of course, even people with hundreds of positive feedback have done an 180 and scammed before. There's always that need for trust in a complete stranger, and is why i'd never trade.

>>7059156
I thought that might be it, but the shirring really stretches only a couple of centimetres. I guess the shirring and sucking in combined it just about goes on. Thanks for the tip, I think I might try that. A part of it is my poor diet (I literally live on junk food) and total lack of exercise (there's a bus stop outside my house), but I'm moving in a couple of months so I'm going to try and eat better and take up ballet, which should help me feel a little less flabby, haha.

>>7059161
It it just elasticized? Just shuffle the ruffles the the size/front.

>>7058875
Bumping for this...

>>7057412
I never buy brand blouses. I figure the models have similarly small busts to me and they always look like they need them pinned back.

>>7057728
Sometimes, but then I think about what I'd rather wear and come to the conclusion that I'd only own pjs and work clothes if I didn't wear lolita as casual wear, plus the dresses still make me happy. I'm thinking about downsizing my wardrobe a bit though to really reflect what I want it to look like, and to have more dresses that cross over into being worn out to nice dinners.

>>7058830
I agree, cat window in purple and black is amazing. I hate all the dress designs though and don't really do skirts

A Navy Twinkle Journel JSK up for Auction on the Sales Comm if anyone was interested.

>>7058924
>>7059053
Do you actually live in the Denver area? There's a whole group of lolis here.

>>7058587
>Discussion: How much is too much? Let's discuss our limits

>Socks:
More than I can reasonably wear. More of a tights person.

>Head bows:
Enough to have headwear for all of my outfits. I have 50 dresses and only need 15 headbows (I rely on pearls/flowers a lot)

>Dresses:
I think I'd freak out if I had to keep track of more than 80 dresses. I would physically start to run out of space. The most I've spent was four digits but most of my purchases are around retail.

Adding
>Shoes
Because I love shoes. Never too many shoes. I'm 25+ and have small feet but I'm trying to invest in more quality and flexible shoes. Lots of VW in my closet now.

Dammit IW, you will be the death of me. Torn between which color, they're both so gorgeous.

Also, how does the type of waist(high or just) change the fit for someones bust? I'm within the measurements, but will one flatter me more than the other? I would consider myself busty. The cut pictured is the just waist model.

>>7059302
I have to say, IW size S blouses are great for me and I don't fit a bra.

Has this abomination been discussed?

>>7058180
>that NY lolita with the big afro hair
Who? Does she have a blog?

>>7059681
I... like it. The background color is too bright, but it's different and I love the OTKs. :( I'm sorry anon, I've failed you.

>>7059681
What. The. Fuck.

>>7059681
Oh my god. This is horrible.

>>7059681
I want it because of its glorious tackiness. Same with the Jesus boob dress. JetJ always gets me.

>>7059681
>"What in the holy fucking hell is that"

My actual words

>captcha has fail in it

Wine (left) or pink (right) on someone with brown skin?

>>7059681
Just an FYI, Its based on Town Musicians of Bremen, a Grim brothers fairy tale. Google it. I agree it looks awkward, but for a lit nerd its awesome!

>>7059727
I'd say wine because the pink one looks a little cheap to me, I don't know.

>>7059727
Holy fuck source PLEASE I need it
Also I think jewel tones like wine work for every skintone.

>>7059728
I know, it's still ugly as fuck

>>7059734
>>7059735
Thanks! And http://www.lustynwonderland.com/product.php?id_product=30

When you put a wig on, sometimes hats don't fit anymore. How do you get the hats to stay?

>>7059739
>$270
Damn, foiled again. And I would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for my meddling student budget and that stupid dog!

Are there any tutorials for how to fit very long (belly button length), thick hair under wig caps/wigs? I've tried pin curls, but they wouldn't stay. When I braid it (usually into 6 braids), it inevitably ends up lumpy or bulging.
I've found this tutorial, but her hair is much, much shorter than mine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyCh0boHPI0

>>7059744
Hat pins

>>7059655
Really? I've got an 80cm bust and I got one once because it was an amazing colour but my bust was just swimming, probably didn't help that it only has waist ties though I guess

>>7059793
I know people hate her, but DollDelight did a tutorial on wearing a wig and her natural hair is waist length and very thick. She wears multiple wig caps to keep the hair flatter. I personally don't like how she wraps her hair into a bun and then pulls it out, since it can still leave a lump at the back, but it's not a bad tutorial with some practice. You don't need to use quite as many as she does, but use as many as you feel works for you. Combine it with pin curls, or twisting several segments and you'll find it sits a lot better for you.

>>7059681
Can we call this the Ass and Cock dress? please?

>>7059827
I'm all for this.

What do you guys consider to be a dream dress? Do you use it loosely and call every dress you love a dream dress, or is it something you've been pining for for months (or even years)?

I got into lolita fairly recently (a little over a year ago) so all my dresses were older releases. My list consisted of 5 dresses... and I just bought the last one. I don't know whether to feel ecstatic about having all the dresses that made me fall in love with lolita time after time, or depressed because now I have nothing to obsess over lol

>>7059861
To me, a dream dress is the one dress that makes your heart skip a beat when you look at it. You'd pay any amount if you could, and stay up for weeks searching auction sites just to find it. It's something really special. If you have a whole list of 'dream dresses' then they're not dream dresses at all. That's just a wishlist.

I have two dream dresses. My first one was Melty Chocolate, because that was the print that really made me sit up and take notice of lolita. I fell in love with it from the first time I saw it. My second dream dress, and one that I have recently managed to buy thanks to an anon on here, is Lief's Gardenberries. I didn't think I would ever be able to find it, since it's one of those difficult prints to get. But I'm telling you, Gardenberries has haunted my sleep so many nights you wouldn't believe.

>>7058695
I'm on the fence about the print, but honestly as a shorter girl I'm afraid to buy any more pieces from her based on how each series has gotten progressively longer and longer in both torso and skirt.

>>7059493

Missed the June swap meet because of summer midterms :( and yes I'm still buttmad as heck about it.

I live in south Denver which is also why I don't want to go all the way to Fort Collins or CO Spgs for a damn meet to drop in on three to five chicks I've never met

Someday soon, mystery future friend!

>>7059681
Ugh.

Shit like this makes me think more and more that JetJ is barely even lolita at this point... The bold tacky over the topness of their prints feel more like weird otome pieces than lolita these days.

>>7059893
I hosted a meet a few weeks ago over by Denver, you should've joined us! Perhaps at NDK instead. The loli room party is supposed to be in my room, you're welcome to stop by and hang out.

>>7059861
I agree with >>7059869
If you're feeling a bit lost now you have yours, why not focus on making new outfits with them? Tracking down the perfect blouse or accessory can be just as rewarding to create an outfit that you love.

>>7059861
I use it somewhat loosely as I've had "dream dresses" leave my closet sooner than dresses I've bought on a whim.

I also kind of trick myself into thinking certain dresses are "dream" ones because I've loved them for years from afar. An example of this is Baby's Gingham Rose OP. I had adored it since its initial release I and even now it gets me a little nostalgic. I finally got a hold of it last year (or was it the year before?) for a really good price too but I only wore it 3 times before deciding it didn't suit me personally.

>>7059793
I dont wear wigs but what my friend does is puts it in a pony tail, put first wig cap on. Pull ponytail over head again, put 2nd cap on...etc until hair is in. Should really only take 2-3 caps here. I also think like if you look for how to do a crown braid, that braid does distribute the hair evenly around your head for the most part.

What's the proper way to let someone know that the price they want for a piece that you've posted a WTB for is too high for you?
I don't want to be rude or commit a faux pas.

>>7059893
Another CO lolita here! Most of our meetups are actually in Denver, since it's a central location. North or South Colorado meetups are relatively rare.
Are you a member of the fb group or have you just liked our page? Smaller meetups tend to just get posted to the group, so you might miss them.

But as >>7059903 said, NDK will be fun!
(they just seeeriously need to get it together with the panels so I can stop freaking out ha)

>>7060009
Just tell them you can't afford it or that you don't want to pay that much. I usually put a ballpark figure on my wtb posts...

>>7060009
Just say something like, "I'm sorry, that's more than I was hoping to pay". I'll usually tell them I saw it go for x amount y months ago, too.

>>7060027
>>7060041
Okay, thank you! I'm glad I did a small WTB first. Now I know to post some prices when I list it.

>>7059827
I agree and we shall from now on

>>7059869
I agree with this, but I'm also leaning more toward then being dresses that fall into this catergory and are more difficult to find or obtain due to rarity or popularity and therefore needing to be in the right place at the right time.

I think almost all my main pieces in my wardrobe outside one plain-colored baby jsk and my only remaining bodyline jsk are dresses that make my heart flutter just seeing them in my closet, and especially on me. A few were hard to obtain or I've been wanting for awhile, or went through hell and back trying to get them during the release (DDC arrgh).

The things that are my dream dresses right now are highly sought-after and popular, but not exactly rare. It just requires patience and constant browsing.

Noob question, but:
Is secret shop shoe sizing in cm or Japanese sizes?

>>7058695
I'm angry that she got rid of the baby blue. I don't like the print on dark colours and I think the pink looks bad with the mint, and the mint looks bad with the brown.

>>7058875
Might want to check your statement history to make sure the payment actually went through. There was one person on here earlier in the month that said that she had sent the payment, but they never received it, so she got blacklisted.

>>7060292
If it was the other style of jsk sometimes they don't all come in at the same time so they get shipped staggered.

>>7059827
Hell yes, and it can be taken further:
Ass, bitch, pussy, and cock dress.

>>7060356
My fucking sides.

>>7060292
They confirmed they received my payment on July 24th. Which is exactly, a month ago. I don't know if they forgot about my order or what.

>>7060647
I have just read another story of someone receiving their payment confirmation on the same day I received mine and they received shipping confirmation on the 30th and the dress on August 2nd.
I think they have definitely forget about my order...

Interesting question, one of my dream brand dresses in it's smallest size would be too big for me, so I would need to get it tailored in. However Ive found it, but its a size up. Would a larger sized dress cost more to tailor, and be more difficult to tailor for someone who's approximately a XXS size?

>>7060669
It can be more difficult to make smaller depending on the dress and the detail and what you would have to cut out or dart to make it fit. And if it is so then yes the cost will be more. Taking it in an inch is quite different than taking in 10.

>>7058924
that skirt has strings that allow you to add the volume in the back. You can choose not to pull them up and it will look just like the front.

>>7060714
Thanks for the advice. It's a really rare dress though so it'll likely only show up once every 6 months in the smaller size but be really overpriced, so I may take the plunge in a couple of weeks. Hopefully it won't be 10 inches to take off, more like 10 cms instead.

>>7058894
nope. There's nothing remotely lolita down there. (In terms of the fashion, anyway...)

>>7060669
The costs also depend on the construction of the dress. Alterations on dresses with side zippers also cost more than back zippers, and it's more difficult to alter a fully lined dress than a dress without lining, so take this into consideration before making a purchase, a complicated alteration can easily cost you 50$ and more.

preview of new AP print, for Halloween I think?

I think it looks like they took a bunch of random moitie motifs and threw them all onto a fabric and then made a dress out of that. I have to admit, the red version looks mighty fetching though

>>7061168

Here's the lavender OP. There's a list of items on the preview page
http://yaplog.jp/ap-tokyo/

>>7061168
Woah, I actually like this, even if it is a hodge podge of motifs.
I want to see what the dresses (and other colourways) look like in more detail, because I might actually want to buy this.

>>7061179
Same here, I'm quite interested. I want to see what the shape of the skirt looks like too.

>>7061171
Op looks really shapeless, and while I think it worked for misty sky because of the print, i think it looks weird here.

About how long does it take Innocent World to send an invoice after an order has been sent? This is my first time ordering from them.

>>7061208

They're kind of backed up, one anon was waiting a month for her invoice, and I'm also still waiting for my invoice from an order made on the 14th this month.

>>7061168
I'm getting the lavender JSK.
So pastel goth ;)
I'm hoping the print is flocked velvet.

>>7061225
I like the lavender, but I might be more interested in the black or ivory, depending on what they end up looking like.
I'm actually really looking forward to this release. It's like a cutesier MMM, and it might be a good way for me to segue into a more gothic look.

>>7061225
Honestly the OP does look like it's trying to cater to trends.

>>7061168
The dress isn't wowing me, but I would cut a bitch for that blouse.

>>7061286

There isn't a blouse listed, and the blouse bears a lot of resemblance to the daydream carnival blouse.

>>7061168

I'm not getting Moitie from it, it's actually reminding me pretty strongly of some of those baby prints with all the black, flocked motifs. They've done a chandelier one, a ballerina one and a few others I think.

>>7061168
No that sort of hodgepodge is way more naoto/Putumayo/maxicimam to me.

I really struggle with shirred OP sleeves like this, they always don't go far enough my shoulders to cover my bra straps and then keep falling down. Am I doing something wrong, or is it just because I have big shoulders? Any tips for keeping them up?

>>7061168
>>7061171
I saw this in the new G&LB yesterday - didn't feel like spending ¥1300 for two pages, but maybe someone will upload scans at some point? It's a lot cuter in the bigger photos.

>>7062388
put 'em on a hanger and let it relax for a few weeks

the elastic will loosen and fit your shoulders much better

>>7062388
I don't have that issue so maybe it is just the shape of your shoulders? You could safety pin them to your bra or use tape.

>>7062434
That or just go strapless bra, c'mon..

>>7062388
I have to wear strapless bras with mine. But I have a bad problem with dream sky in that it's already made for a tiny bust, I have DD's so with the strapless bra, my tits start drooping down as I walk and the bodice starts riding up.

I have wider shoulders, not wide-wide but broad enough to be a problem.

General lolita newfag here.

I just sent a mail order to Baby for a blouse. Do you reserve items the same way you order them? How long do they usually take to reply? I want it really bad and I'm scared it will fill up before they reply if I didn't do it correctly. Any assistance would be appreciated, thank you.

>>7062452
>with the strapless bra, my tits start drooping down as I walk and the bodice starts riding up.
Have you considered a custom corset? They're great support, you can order a size down if you'd like to cinch your waist, and they're strapless but won't make your boobs droop.

>>7062407
Ahh, thank you, I'll try that!

>>7062447
>>7062434
I do use a strapless bra with my OPs, but my main issue is that the sleeves then slip off my shoulders. I've tried the safety pinning method and all that does is make the bra straps slip down too, but thank you for your suggestions.

>>7062452
I am pretty flat, so yeah, I think it is my shoulders as opposed to my boobs. Glad to know I'm not the only one!

>>7062456
Reservation items have to go through the cart. If you don't go through the cart, they'll ignore you. If the item is still available on the site (you didn't get a pink box/out of stock notification), they'll ignore you. It can take anywhere from 24 hours to a week before they'll respond to an emailed order.

>>7061171
Kinda like it kinda scared to see the "creepy cute" tumblrfag clones ruin it

>>7062456
I found a page that describes how to order a reserve item, it's detailed and it also has pictures.
http://egl.livejournal.com/17313235.html

>>7062480
>>7062502
Okay, thank you. Hopefully they don't hate me now or something, I hear they like to blacklist people.

>>7062471
You could pin them to a singlet top maybe? Obviously not the spaghetti strap ones but more like a low cut tank top?

I attended my first meet up today. I took some photos, and I noticed a few things...e.g a girl had a hole in the lace of her shirt, and another girl had a pimple on a face makeup close up. My original intent was to upload the images without any processing, but should I shoop those little things away for them? I know I can do a clean job but I don't want to be the mean newbie who posts unflattering pictures of the girls in my comm, neither do I want to offend them by shooping without permission!

>>7062813
I think everyone expects a couple of touch ups to be done. If I had to put it in order of preference:

1) Confirm it's OK to make corrections and have a before/after
2) Post corrected photos without confirming with the subject
distant 3rd: Post untouched photos. I would remove tags if it were FB

>>7062825
I don't know how comfortable they are with the topic, some of the photos had a few slips and I don't want to embarrass them. I believe they are unaware of their own slips. I think I will shoop very subtly, as if the camera didn't pick up that little blemish. Thank you!

>>7062883
What kind of slips were they? I'm just asking so I don't make similar mistakes. The only thing I can really think of are sort of upskirt things so I'd keep in mind to keep my legs together.

>>7062890
bloomers showing, petticoat showing (distinctly different color from dress) holes in clothing (torn lace, in socks and tights, gaping shirts), bra straps, loose threads, one sock two inches higher than the other. beware of bloomers/petti showing, especially if the photo was taken from a lower angle. This one is harder to shoop than the rest.

>>7059084
Dear newbie,
To save you headaches, embarrassment, and shaming, please please fucking learn to google. There are tutorials on LJ and there is even a guide on the btssb site for this.
>dont ask dumb questions.

Seagulls, I'm freaking out right now.
A girl I'm currently in the process of purchasing a dress from (payment plan) has listed the dress again, using the same proof photo. I've just messaged her about it, but I'm already ~$150 into the plan. Should I open a paypal claim or just wait for her to respond to my message?

Message, if no message within a week claim and warn others. Why would someone relist an item if you've contributed money?

>>7063255
I've messaged her and one of the mods. I really hope that it was a mistake or something, because this is making me so anxious, especially with all of the scamming that's been going on in that community recently.

>>7063198
Since you've only just messaged her about it, I'd wait, but it certainly sounds suspicious. Give it two days, I'd say.

I had a question about shoes, if anyone can help.

I'm going to be ordering a pair of shoes from antaina, and I wasn't confident about ordering the correct size. When measured directly my feet are ~23cm but I am guessing my wide feet would mean I wouldn't actually fit in a 23.
The only pair I've ever gotten was from bodyline in 25 cm and it surprisingly fit fine when I wore socks. Checking a converter table my size 39/ 8.5 feet would also equal 25 cm. Would this mean I should order in 25 cm?

WHY DONT WE HAVE SPOILERS HERE
anyway, this is not for a blue board but omg i found this gif of a girl wearing milky planet (no blouse but with jewelry) and sucking off a guy~

sage because herp derp

>>7063294
Maybe you measured your feet incorrectly? Also, if I'm not mistaken, Bodyline uses japanese shoe sizing, not cm. I wear a 22.5 in BL sizes, but my foot is ~23.7 cm/6 1/2 in US sizes.

What's the colour of these irl? They look ivory to me but I somehow have a feeling they'll have a greenish shade.

>>7063271
>>7063198
Okay, thanks be to Mana, it appears to have been a mistake.

>>7063349
They are ivory. I own 3 pairs of Grimoire tights and these are more yellow than my other two. There is green on them though, mostly on the little flower on the top of the foot. It's never bothered me and I don't wear anything green (also shoes usually cover it). I wore mine so much they are now destroyed so I say go for it, they're lovely. Also have a worn picture.

>>7063428
Thanks. I'm still not quite sure whether or not they'll match the dress I'd like to wear them with, but I'll get them anyway.

>>7063328
I measured them again, and I'm getting 23.5 cm

and I think you're right about Bodyline using Japanese sizing which is different from actual cm. Still, my size 39 feet would be a Japanese 24.5 at 25 cm

>>7058717
I have this one in size 2 and it feels very big. I can measure it for you

>>7061168
>>7061171
get on my body get on my body get on my body get on my body

I'm really loving the Halloween prints I'm seeing this year.

>>7063482
I get 24.0 from Bodyline and I'm a size 7 (sometimes 7.5). 23.5 will be too small for you.

>>7058587
Socks: I'd say like $30, and that'd be only if they're for a specific brand print (obviously I'd be getting 'em secondhand). The thought of dishing out more than that on OTKs is crazy to me. And socks/tights are so cheap on taobao anyways you can get a lot for a little.

Head bows: $45, once again, if it's brand (though probably secondhand), there's lots of pretty accessories out there that can be bought for less.

Dresses: $300. Unless I'm going after some really sought after print or brand spanking new hot of the presses print brand, there's not reason I'd need to spend more than that on a dress I want.

>>7059681
JetJ is like ivy.
You have it grow on the side of the house, and for a while it's absolutely lovely. Then it gets a mind of its own, gets too thick and strong, and the house gets damp.

I was going somewhere with that. What I'm trying to say is that they're turning to shit with these horribly tacky prints they've been coming out with.

>>7059861
Tbh I use the term way more loosely than other girls. I think generally it means it's a dress someone will stalk comm sales and auctions for that they OMG WANT SO HARD. For me, I tend to just equate it with a want or "wishlist" dress, I guess. I have lots of "dream dresses", dresses I've wanted and will snatch up if I see them at a good price, but nothing I really hunt for.

Question about petticoats - I have a low waist jsk from AP, and if I set my petticoat at my natural waist, it bunches the skirt weird. Clearly the petticoat should sit lower, due to the dropped waist of the dress. However, my petticoats are too long. Would splurging on one of AP's organdy pettis be a nice solution?

TL;DR - are AP's organdy petticoats shorter than other pettis? If I wear it lower with a low waist jsk, will it peek?

Apparently this is only for the Tokyo store. I'm not entirely sure on the details, but what the heck AP.

>>7063600
I think ap had something specifically called a "short petticoat"

>>7063325
Upload it somewhere then post the link
I wanna sew

>>7063428
Would you say they would fit a bigger girl with long legs?

>>7061168
>>7061171
AP sure is going fullforce on the creepycute/pastelgoth customerbase, huh. Despite how obvious that is, I think it looks cute. Does remind me of Putumayo, like one anon said.

>>7063773
nah I don't think so.. these motifs have been around for a long time. And AP does sometimes dabble in the more gothic side. Yes this will be used with creepycute but I don't think that was their focus with it. It's halloween time remember.

>>7063325
post liiiink

>>7063822
>>7063721

from tumblr user sukijav

/tagged/Rika-Simazaki

be 18+, etc

>>7064049
You mean this video anon?
http://javblog.biz/image/images/ay6jd6va922ozvg5mrl.jpeg

>>7060022
I don't use facebook at all except to look where it says "events".
I don't have an account with FB and have never created one/will never create one, for reasons best kept to /pol.

>>7064049
>>7064065
How about an "I only shoot porn in replicas" secret next week?

>>7063724
Not really. I'm 5'3" and decently petite (although my thighs and butt are a little jiggly) and they're pretty tight, especially at first

>>7063724
I'm 5'10" and they just barely fit me, the print ends up pretty low and vertically stretched. And I'm rather skinny.

>>7064585
Oh shit. I'm 5'4". They better fit me.

Anyone else feeling really off about lolita atm?
I've been fine all day but I just started to think about lolita and dressing in the style and I started to feel really down.

Where do you girls get your non-brand accessories?
Are there any online stores you'd recommend? I want to make coords a little less boring, but I'm really lacking in things other than headbows, so I'd like to stock up on some cute bits and pieces. I wear sweet and a bit of gothic, so pretty much all suggestions would be great!

>>7064605
i am feeling meh towards lolita recently despite purchasing. maybe i am growing out of it, i dont know for sure. i think its more about how much ive spent in all on the damn fashion. overall, its just life bringing me down, i just feel lost and lolita doesnt bring me happiness like it did, nor does it help my self-esteem. i feel like shit.

>>7064629
Thinking about how much I've spent is concerning. I'm not spending above my means or anything but lolita is still an expensive fashion. I have come to accept that for the most part but every once in a while I wonder why I do it.

The fashion has given me a lot of confidence and I do feel happy in it until I start to compare myself to others. I just feel like I'm really plain and shitty in comparison.

>>7064630
i mean its cool and nice to have such pretty clothes, but other than that my personality sucks and there isnt much to me. i feel as though everyone i know has accomplished so much compared to me. all i have is a closet full of expensive clothes im afraid to wear. i feel like a failure.

>>7064613
in store:Forever21, H&M, vintage shops, random craft sales
online:ebay (seach keywords), Taobao (I live in China so this is easy), etsy

I think in one of these threads recently people were talking about how they make money, and some anon was saying they were a real-estate agent?
If you see this, could you post again? I want to ask you some stuff because I'm interested in hearing about your experience, but I didn't get your email last time.
Thanks.

>>7064629

You sound rather depressed.
Maybe you should see a professional and talk about your troubles, maybe also take anti-depressants?

Posted this in another thread, guess Ill ask here too.
At Anime Revo my friend bought Etoile Twins JSK in Sax for $360 with head bow. Was that a rip off? I wasnt with her at time of purchase but apparently they didnt even both to go to the back to get her a new one, they took it right off the rack when a bunch of people had already been touching. Made me disappointed they call themself "brand" when they dont treat is as so.
Pic related; couldnt find it in sax

>>7064743
Brands have a very limited stock. They didn't get one from the back because that was likely the only dress they had. There are maybe 50 of that dress in existence- most of which never left Japan- and you are pissed because your friend bought the floor model?
No, the price wasn't a rip off. That is the cost of that dress and bow new from the shop.

Made me disappointed they call themself "brand" when they dont treat is as so.
How so? What were they supposed to do? Tell me how when I go to the Louis Vuitton or Christian Louboutin store they won't sell me the product that is sitting on the shelf... because that is EXACTLY what they are selling.

>>7064743
Responded to your other post. Did they actually have "a back"? They typically only have limited stock of certian things. It may have been the only one. Most of the time, when I see brand shops, there are really small booths with everything out, on racks or a table. Everyone is touching them. H.Naoto at Otakon was no different. There was no back and no under the counter space for extras. I think if you actually visit the shops in Japan, they have the items in the back, and perhaps if there is extra stock at AP San Fransisco. But highly unlikely at a con.

>>7064784
Whenever I go to Burberry or Holt Renfrew, they ALWAYS pull one from the back. There were some nasty people I saw touching that dress which is the main reason I was upset, seriously people walking around eating and touching it bare hands, and AP wouldnt say anything.

>>7064788
There was a really big back part that had max cap racks.They also had a change room and were letting other people try on the floor models, yet another reason I didnt approve of a $360 dress.

I personally just dont think its right to sell a dress for that much when a) lots of people touching it with dirty hands and b) youre allowing all sort of people to try it on. They didnt even inspect the dress before completing the transaction.

>>7064847
Why does any of this matter though if your friend bought it and that's what she wanted? She saw the same things you did but decided to go ahead and buy it regardless.
Was the dress actually damaged?
Is she not enjoying it?
Does she feel she overpaid for it now?
I mean, what's going on here and why are you so invested over her choice?

>>7064855
Because shes regretting it now. She didnt see those negative things til after she bought the dress. As for damage there was quite a few threads that looks pulled out. She feels she overpaid after seeing it the day after on the AP site in pink and purple for $250 ish I believed (tried cheering her up telling her theres no blue). I tried to tell her it was nice and support her at first, but shes just been negative the whole time which is why Im abit upset now.

>>7064847
good god you're a fussy buyer. could your friend have gotten it for a lower price? probably, since etoile twins wasn't that hot of a print, so it wouldn't have been that hard to find one for cheaper secondhand. but then you run into the exact same problems of "who's been trying this on?! who's touched it?! DID YOUR DOG PUT HIS WET NOSE ON IT?!"

let it go, anon. if your friend likes the dress, was happy to see AP, and wanted to buy direct from AP, who are you to "approve" her purchase?

>>7064847
>comparing Burberry to lolita brands

Well there's your problem.

>>7064868
even brand new dresses come with plenty of loose threads on the inside, from my experience. if she's regretting it now, let it be a lesson for the future. no use crying over spilt milk, since AP has a no-returns policy

>>7064870
>could your friend have gotten it for a lower price? probably, since etoile twins wasn't that hot of a print, so it wouldn't have been that hard to find one for cheaper secondhand

Okay, and for a lower price, other people having worn it wouldnt be a big issue cause ya know ITS A LOWER PRICE.

>if your friend likes the dress
she feels she over paid for it now. She tried looking on AP site day of purchase but for some reason kept getting blocked access, now she sees it was around $250+

> was happy to see AP

Of course she was, she got their signature, has nothing to do with present argument though

>who are you to "approve" her purchase

Shes my best friend, sorry if you dont look after yours and try to help them when theyre upset, but she means alot to me

>>7064878
To be honest I was only looking to see if she over paid, then responses ended up with my venting abit of anger about it, I just told her its nice whether or not she over paid and to speak up before the purchase is completely done

>>7064879
It was just an example. But brands are brand in the end, and for the price your paying a Lolita dress is equivalent to a cheap Coach Purse, and even they have the same set up of one of each item out, and pulling new one out for purchase

I guess this fits in with Lolita General, so here goes.
I've been debating whether or not to get in touch with a girl I used to talk to a while back. We used to talk quite a lot, but some drama happened with her and her comm, I never really knew the specifics. Presumably because she was getting messages about it or something, she deleted her facebook, which was the only medium through which we talked. We got on reasonably well, but is currently even under a pseudonym after all this time.
I don't know what went on, but we used to get on well and just chat about Lolita, should I get in touch with her again? I think whatever happened is long over and almost forgotten, but I'm afraid that I might be shooting myself in the foot if it's not.

I don't know what to do, I'm probably rambling here.

>>7058587
>Socks
No more than $25, but I tend to prefer tights anyhow. Tights I honestly don't wanna pay more than like, $15 because of the higher potential to get destroyed.
>Head bows
I try to buy sets if possible, but no more than $30~35 on most bows. I'll shell out much more for bonnets or other higher quality millinery.
>Dresses
No more than $200 shipped for secondhand, although I st prefer to stay under $150. I'll bend those figures a little for rarer dream dresses, and if there's something I'm super in love with and have to own, I'll buy it new, assuming I don't pay more than $350 for it.

>>7060356
Oh god

>>7064899
if it helps, if she'd bought the dress from the AP site (i'm guessing you mean the AP USA site), it wouldn't have been THAT much cheaper than what she'd paid. $250 is retail price, add $21.88 for SF sales tax, add at least $50 for EMS shipping to Canada, then add whatever customs fees you'd get for a $250 package (i'm not familiar with the canadian post system, but you can probably guess this yourself).

>>7065111
meant to say "IF $250 is retail price"

>>7060356
Hell yes


Also, get a load of this girl.

>>7060356
lol, that's exactly what I said on my tumblr. perfect

I've got a feedback question and need some advise...

I sold a dress to a girl who wanted to do a short term payment plan. She laid out the timeline and said she'd have the dress paid off in a month. Well... that month was 4 months ago and she's finally sent the last payment. I'd send her messages and WEEKS would go by with no answer. She used sob stories of a friend dying, car troubles, internet problems, and then claimed she FORGOT she even had the dress on hold. -_- Now that she paid, it's been 3 days and she keeps sending me messages asking for a tracking #, two in one day. I clearly state in my sales post to give me a week to get to the post ( I don't want to make trips there every damn day...) So...negative or neutral? I've never given either before... what do you guys think?

>>7065173
>>7065173
I'd give a negative, sounds like the type of person to cheat people if given the chance.

>>7065173
Neutral. Wait til it gets to her though, if she causes any more problems make it a negative.

>>7065227
>>7065179
Thanks guys! I appreciate the input

>>7065173
neg that bitch

>>7065173

This person also kind of sounds like the type to give revenge feedback though, especially because of how she's being about the tracking number. I'd suggest you take screencaps and stuff to protect yourself.

>>7065173
depends on the language in the messages where she's asking about a tracking #, imo. the dragged out payment plan lands her solidly in neutral territory, and if her nagging is really rude, that'd tip it over into a negative.

she also sounds like a hot mess waiting to happen, so be sure to get yourself full seller protection and do everything by the book.

>>7065281
She hasn't gotten SUPER rude yet...just annoying. I went ahead and sent out her dress priority with added tracking and insurance so she can't claim anything as far as post goes...And I just took caps of all the convos to be safe. Yikes. First and last sale by payment plan thats for sure.

I spilled wine on a white dress. How can I remove the stain without using bleach?

Thanks

>>7064743
Yes, you got ripped off. That dress went on sale for at least 50% off in Japan. AP USA sux
They probably only had the one on the rack, so you can't fault them for that

some of AP's bows and shit is ridiculous. this is one of the many

>>7065173
Let her leave feedback for you first (so she doesn't retaliate) and then leave her at least a neutral

>>7065294
if it's still fresh, rinse immediately with running water. otherwise it'll depend on the material of your dress. google is your friend.

>>7065294
What's the material? If you can rinse it with water, do, and if there's a little bit remaining, you might have some luck with drugstore hydrogen peroxide. I don't keep bleach in my house, and I've used it pretty successfully to "bleach" mild stains. Also doesn't need to be washed out, since it will just turn to water.

>>7065302
good idea!

>>7065302
>>7065321

To me she seems like someone who wouldn't even bother leaving feedback. To be honest, if she's been clearly impatient and unreasonable, I don't think you'd have to worry about revenge feedback. If you stated in the sale terms it could take up to a week to send, she hasn't got a leg to stand on in terms of calling you slow. So long as you've stuck to your own deadlines, how could the mods possibly accept revenge feedback?

>>7064636
Pretty much this. I mope around all day as well and I rarely have the motivation to do anything. When I do finally do something I find it's really exhausting as well.

so I posted in the bst thread about whether it's common courtesy or not as a seller to wash clothes before you send them out. i'm too lazy to find my post number but long story short, while I don't believe it was done on purpose/maliciously or anything (I don't think the seller could tell) the dress I bought came and it REEKS. I don't really know how to describe it other than it smells like...stale deoderant that has been fermenting in a gabage bin with animal smell. it's really bad and it's all over the dress. if I touch it, the smell transfers onto my hands and anything else it touches (table that it was laid out on, my clothes, etc.). as soon as I took it out of the bag I just put it right back in to contain the smell. the instructions are dry clean only/no washing. due to the smell i'm kind of uhh embarassed to take it into a dry cleaner though? that might sound dumb but, it's true. I don't wanna try to dry clean it on my own (it's non-print but I feel like something disastorous would happen) but is there any way I can get as much of the smell out of as possible on my own? it's just so horribly strong right now.

>>7066114
Water/vinegar mix in a spray bottle, or baking soda and water, or Febreeze. I heard putting it in the freezer will take out smells, too.

>>7066114

What dress is it, out of curiosity?

>>7066144
Hmm, I think I'll try the freezer thing first, then probably the febreeze. Thanks!
>>7066149
It's AATP's Leclair chiffon.

>>7065301
I sometimes wonder if brands release weird shit on purpose just to see if people will buy it just because it has their label on it.

>>7066114

Egad. I always clean dresses before even laying them out for sales photos, precisely for the reason you don't want to take it to the drycleaners, I'd die of embarrassment if some girl I sold it to now thinks I'm some stinky-chan! I hope you mentioned this in the feedback you left for the seller, I'd hate to get that kind of nasty surprise in the mail.

Additional option, some people say to put cat litter or activated charcoal into the bag with the dress and the charcoal/cat litter will absorb the smell.

>>7066313
I like to imagine at least one little lolita having a good laugh while she designs/patterns.

>>7066321
I know I do

>>7066313
Why not a weird brand dabble in some Haute Couture?

>>7066162
You can probably hand wash it in cold water with laundry soap as well.

>>7066162
>AatP's Leclair chiffon.

Handwash that baby with cool water + woolite in your bathtub. If there are certain areas that are smellier than others (like the underarms), apply a baking soda scrub (baking soda + enough water to make a paste) first. Dampen the spot, rub in baking soda paste gently, let dry, then launder as usual.

I've never bought smelly Lolita, but I buy a shit ton of vintage dresses. I use this method a LOT.

>>7066162
>AatP's Leclair chiffon.

Handwash that baby with cool water + woolite in your bathtub. If there are certain areas that are smellier than others (like the underarms), apply a baking soda scrub (baking soda + enough water to make a paste) first. Dampen the area, rub in baking soda paste gently, let air dry, then launder as usual.

I've never had the misfortune of receiving smelly Lolita, but I buy a shit ton of vintage dresses. I use this method a LOT, and it's safe & effective on basically everything.

So I sent a dress out and I think it's lost in the mail, what do I do? Do I refund the girl the money she spent on the dress and take a hit? It was expensive shipping, and I basically feel like I've already lost half of it on getting it out to her.

tl;dr dress is lost, do I pay her the cost of the dress?

>>7067244
Unless she asked for shipping, it's ut of your hands and not your fault. If you want to be a 110% seller, you could refund her, but you're under no obligation to do so if she didn't request tracking or insurance.

>>7067244
Is it insured? If so, you need your receipt and you can make a claim for the lost parcel. This will allow you to refund the girl without taking a huge loss.

If it's not insured, then if she asked for the cheaper shipping, you're not obligated to refund her since it's her fault for not getting insured shipping.

>>7067257
>>7067244
Tracking and insurance are to protect _you_ as the seller. If you didn't get T&I, she can file a Paypal claim and get all the money back from you

>>7067244
going by Paypal's ToS, yes, you refund the buyer. Paypal considers it the seller's responsibility to make sure that the product reaches the buyer safely.

if this was on egl sales, then at least for feedback purposes, you aren't required to refund the buyer at all if you shipped using whatever method you guys had agreed on.

> checking comm sales
Why would you take a picture of a headbow you're trying to sell with your cat?

>>7068107
Speaking of comm sales, why do some people have to put their whole life story in their sale post? Like
>I love this dress soooo much and I don't want to sell it, but it's a little short and also I really need the money because I have the bubonic plague, and I have to feed my pet crocodile, and a tank ran over my car and I got bills to pay, etc, etc, etc

Just post the price, no one cares why you're "letting it go"

>>7068370

I assume it's to keep out the people who want to trade dresses or haggle on prices, by emphasizing how they much they need the money.

I've written similar notes on some of my sales, usually I'm open to trades and haggling, but on certain items I write that if no one wants to pay the price then I'll keep the dress, even if it doesn't fit.

Other times I also write down the reason for selling as part of the dress history, eg- I lost weight and sold a bunch of taobao things, some of which were never worn because the dresses took so long to get made I lost the inches and the dress swims on me.

>>7065301
ric rac lolita

>>7067244
If you got tracking & insurance and shipped to a verified address, paypal should side with you.

On a related note, I don't understand why people don't get insurance? It's literally like $2 more (at least for USPS to international, dunno what it's like elsewhere). Even if the buyer doesnt want to pay for it, I would just go ahead and do it, especially if I am selling a $200/$300 dress

>>7068843
This. USPS just "lost" some shit I ordered online, after claiming they were allowed to hold it because it was "suspicous". Fucking pissed at them right now.

Before that they marked all of my packages as delivered even though they were sitting around in their office for 5 days past their deadline. Again, "suspicious". Thought they were either stolen off of my porch or the mailman gave someone the keys to the wrong package box. At least those got here eventually.

It depends on how the postal service in the recipient's area is. Mine's got a shit track record with uninsured parcels. Just in case though, you need to get the extra shit to make sure they do their fucking job right.

Ugh. I bought a pair of shoes on sale in my size but it feels like they fit me like pic related. I can't return them, so is there anything I can do to minimize that little gap of space at the back of the heel outside of stuffing the toe area or wearing multiple socks?
>Why can't you just shrink shoes using some household witchery.

>>7069129
Try this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjL5Ea6ZuA

>>7069129
Silicon foot pads usually do the trick for me. The ones that don't have adhesive on the back tend to work the best

>>7067247
>>7067257
>>7067328
>>7067396
>>7068843

It's waay past paypal claim stage, anything I do now will be out of good faith.

She recently moved so I am thinking that's how things got lost, but I don't know how to handle it. So I'm probably going to call the post office and ask them about the package and go from there.

Thank you anons!

I go to an art school, and I'm absolutely terrified to wear lolita to class. I've seen weirder stuff, but it's so drastically different from what I normally wear, I feel like people will be freaked out.

Any words to inspire courage?

>>7069188
It's art school, nobody gives a fuck. Nobody will be surprised if you show up in anything out of the ordinary.

You should be more teriffied about getting paint/pastels/graphite all over your clothes.

>>7069188
Depends on your major. If you're doing something mess, like anything that involves paints or dyes or industrial machines, definitely avoid wearing it to class. But no one will be freaked out. I wear lolita to an art school regularly, and it feels basically normal; I don't get even double-takes or any thing, so it's very nice. Plus, as an art school there might be more lolitas, any way, so wearing it is a good way of meeting people.

>>7069190
seriously
imagine charcoal on your sweet lolita
ohhhhhhhhhhhh fuck

>>7069141
>>7069143
God I feel silly for not thinking of either of those things, but I've never had a problem until now. Thanks!

>>7069234
If I were to wear lolita in to an art class when I knew it was going to be messy, I'd sew myself clothes specifically for that out of cheaper fabric. That way your good shit doesn't get ruined.

>>7065030
Okay guys thanks for the help I'll just bite the bullet and message her.

I'm in the process of purchasing from the sales comm but the seller hasn't been very responsive. I messaged her two days ago and she still hasn't replied, before this she was also slow with replies. I haven't paid her yet but I've committed to buying. I'm starting to mistrust her, though. I don't want to get negative feedback for backing out but I don't want to lose my $280 either. Wat do?

>>7069475
It's been three days now. Fuck this shit.

New thread >>7069932

>>7058924
Trad goth? I sadly haven't heard that in forever.

>>7067034
>>7066412
hm, alright. I'll have to try that. thanks!