/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I KEEP LOSING ALL THESE FUCKING AUCTIONS

I HAVE MONEY TO SPEND ON SALOPETTES, THERE AREN'T ENOUGH FOR ME TO BUY for a reasonable price of 7000 yen

First off I would like to tell me story as I am in need of some advice and someone might find it interesting.

About a month and a half ago I bought a headbow from a seller in the US. She said she was selling for a friend which seemed like it could be a bit dodgy but I went ahead and bought it anyway. I never received shipping confirmation and after a month left her a comment on LJ and asked her what was up. She didn't reply for a couple of days so I then messaged her on her FB which I found via LSE. She didn't help, just said that it should have arrived by then but to wait some more. I waited about a week but it still hadn't arrived so I messaged her again. She just said to wait more. I asked her when it was shipped and with what method and she could not tell me as her friend shipped it. I tried to contact her friend to no avail. This went on for about a week and all she could tell me was to contact the post office so I opened a dispute to cover my back. She stopped responding so I escalated it to a claim. Continuing in a new post.

>>7043157
After still no response, Paypal took my side but were taking awhile to send me a refund. The seller seemed to be a deadbeat so I left her negative feedback. It took me a few days to decide to do so and I felt really bad initally but I had been screwed over too many times before and I wanted to stop being such a doormat to shitty sellers. After that she suddenly responded with floods of apologies and excuses and many pleas for me to delete the feedback as her life was so hard right now etc etc. At first she was trying to guilt trip me non stop and then she started to try to intimidate me despite me having the mod's support. I got a refund after that and then changed the feedback to a neutral due to her terrible communication. She said she was happy with that but the mod told me that leaving a negative would be better due to her manipulative behaviour (guilt tripping me and being so pushy and intimidating). I wasn't going to until I went to message her and found that I had been blocked. That was the last straw so I left negative feedback. The whole time she had made me feel like I was a pest and below her even though I was only messaging her due to her unprofessionalism as a seller. Continuing again...

>>7043162
The next day I found lots of screened comments on my feedback page, she had tried to leave me negative feedback. Apparently I was "so awful to deal with that I have to take a break from selling..." and "Overall, I have never met such a vindictive and callous buyer....". I gave her so many goddamn chances and now I am pissed. Now I am scared I will have a vendetta chan or something. I feel so uncomfortable as I wanted to sort the whole thing out but she gave me no choice but to leave negative feedback. I don't know if I should message her or what. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

>>7043164
If you left her negative feedback, have no damage on your feedback page, and your money back, don't worry about it. Maybe you'll have a vendetta chan but it won't be that big of a deal-- she has to be mental to think that everything is "your fault". I wouldn't worry about it.

>>7043154
i kinda wonder why these salopettes sell higher than the jsks/ops

more wearable casually i guess..

>>7043164
If you message her you're just going to open yourself up to more guilt tripping and abuse, so I wouldn't bother. You've left feedback, you have mod backing on your decision and clearly they're keeping an eye out for retaliatory feedback. I think you should just leave it as it is.

I would like to know who the seller is, but if you don't want to share I understand.

>>7043154
Stick it out, anon! Maybe use a SS that lets you bid in real time? But if they're all on Mbok, I know how you feel.

>>7043173
I've heard other people say that she was rude/unprofessional but I guess I'm the only one who actually left feedback. It's Valkyrie_Ryu.

One of my favourites is the story with the girl whose dress came covered in moldy orange peels.

>>7043181
I remember when that went down. I just...I still just can't believe that shitstorm. How did she not notice them when she was putting the clothes in the bag?

I've had a few things arrice unwashed but have had no major troubles. I'm really thankful for this.

>>7043190
>arrice
arrive

>>7043180
>Valkyrie_Ryu
that bitch gets more and more crazy as time passes

>>7043172
There are actually a lot of salopettes that sell for cheap. The majority stay at or under 10,000 yen. The ones I want aren't popping up though.

>>7043174
I already have an order going on with japonica, so I'm stuck with them for the mean time.

I just checked the post, and she's blaming everything on her friend. Sounds like they both need to get their shit together.

http://egl-comm-sales.livejournal.com/21462999.html

>>7043206
She blamed everything on her friend on FB. She sent me a bajillion pushy, aggressive and guilt-tripping messages on there. They also stuffed up 2 more transactions at the same time but apparently I'm the one at fault.

>>7043180
>>7043206
>>7043216

Thanks for the info, this bitch is now on my shitlist.

I remember buying a damaged Bodyline JSK (just needed a new zipper) from someone about a year ago, opened the package and the smell of sweat and godknowswhat that rose out of it, it was brutal.
Thankfully BL is machine washable so it wasn't the end of the world, but still, sending your clothes out stinking of you and everything around you is bad form.

>>7043174
Would you recommend any SS in particular?

>>7043351
I haven't used them but I know FromJapan lets you bid in real time.

>>7043348

Ugghhh that is so disgusting.

>>7043325
Sage for off-topic, but I went to college with this bitch. She once told me that "I don't know why you buy brand for like 300? It's just cotton, I can buy the same thing in India for 30. Lo and behold, a year later I see her posting all of her new "buraaaando" purchases.

She's also pretty damn crazy and a bitch in real life.

Does anyone have any horror trades? They seem like they could be the worst.

>>7043531
how not to look like an ita in bodyline, indeed

>>7043348
oh my god, I just got a bolero in the mail that had this exact same problem. it reeked the absolute worst in the armpits, and I got a headache from the sheer strength of BO. the bolero is covered in this lovely soft faux fur too, so I'm preparing myself to mourn the loss of the fluffy fur once I wash out the sweat :( so much for NWOT

she's totes a model, gais

taken from her self-created fanpage in an album titled "my modelling"

>>7043534
Did you contact the seller?

>>7043157
>>7043162
>>7043164
>>7043180
this chick is honestly so cray that she's already collecting plenty of people that she's pissed off. i'd say don't worry about it, but just avoid doing any business with her in the future.

if she does decide to go vendetta-chan on your ass, PM a mod and request to change your username without linking it publicly to your old one. if you only have a positive feedback page, it shouldn't be a problem. you'll lose your old feedbacks, but hey, small price to pay.

>>7043532
How do people fuck up that jsk all the time? It's not amazing, but jesus it's so easy to make it look nice.

Polite sage for no real contribution

>>7043534
I'd say soak it in a gentle detergent and hand wash it to try to save the faux fur.

>>7043535
yeah. no response though, and there's really no visible damage at all. i can swear up and down that it stinks to high heaven, but from the seller's POV, i can understand being reluctant to make up for a flaw that you have absolutely no proof of.

>>7043549
thanks! i'll try that once i get home from work today.

>>7043548
Not the OP but don't you have to pay to change your username? Or do you mean make a new account? And how would that stop any harassment? If you type the old username it redirects to the new one.

>>7043534

Contact the seller and if she's being difficult, a mod.
Make her pay for dry cleaning.

>>7043548
>>7043568
If she started being a vendetta chan I'd know it was her as while I've been in the fashion for almost 7 years, I've kept under the radar and never been involved in any type of dispute until now. I don't want to lose feedback/make a new account because of her but thanks for your advice, I will definitely never do business with her again.

>Friend is trying to buy a dress
>I hadn't used Sales Comm before, neither has she
>Contact seller, she gives price for dress plus shipping
>Also charges for the bubble wrap envelope, wtf
>Okay, whatever
>Get the invoice, she has tacked on PP fees
>Since it's our first time buying, we're like, what are the extra fees
>Look it up, see it's not allowed by PP, so we contact her and tell her that
>Her: Whatever
>Friend: I just want the dress, I'm gonna pay the fees
>Notice that she's also done some miscalculations on like, shipping or something
>Ask her, hey, is this a mistake that it's even more expensive?
>Her: lol, oops, I'll change it back
>From Canada to the US, a cheap-ass dress costing sixty bucks ends up more than 100
>Friend just pays it, she wants the damn dress so much
>She swears of Sales Comm forever
>The seller has 100% positive feedback
>Can't help but feel she was trying to take advantage of us as newbies.

>>7043549
Also if the fur gets wet brush it gently as it dries with a clean toothbrush, nailbrush, or something similar. Keeps it from getting that clumpy look.

>>7043637
If she didn't say in her post that she charges PP fees, that's no good. It is insanely expensive to ship from the US with tracking though, minimum is about $40, not like she can change that

>Someone lists an MM OP.
>Its relatively cheap, has proof pictures, it's clean, undamaged.
>I order it, super excited to get it.
>It finally gets here.
>It's a fucking replica.

I would be less mad if she would've just listed it as a replica. At least it was under 100. I guess it isn't too noticeable either. I didn't know it was a replica until I checked the tag.

>>7043682
If she listed it as MM then you need to contact Paypal.

>>7043682
It's not okay to list replicas as brand, even if they're non print.

>>7043666
I understand shipping is expensive; it was the hidden fees that was the issue.

>>7043682
That's seriously shitty. Don't let them get away will pulling that.

>>7043682
Out of interest, and for future reference, who was the seller?

>>7043682
Is it possible that the seller didn't even know it was a replica? You said yourself that it isn't obvious unless you check for it.

>>7043637
P&P stands for postage AND packing anon. She's supposed to charge you for it and it's nothing out of the ordinary.

>>7043351
I use Fromjapan and it's great for y!a. Fees are reasonable, they combine items for up to 30 days. I've also used them for Mbok and they're reasonably fast even on weekends.

>>7043811
Um, no. I was talking about Paypal fees, and the seller is supposed to cover them. It's generally allowed if the seller mentions that the buying will be covering in the sales post (though still not acceptable by Paypal, technically), but not acceptable at all when it's not mentioned.

>>7043568
i meant make a new account, and cut ties with the old one. and as long as you let the mods know beforehand, it shouldn't get you in trouble.

>>7043845
...

I completely understood that you were talking about paypal fees later in your post. P&P is a completely different phrase to PP, you see the big symbol in the middle? That's called an ampersand and it means the same as "And"

When you're shopping anywhere online, it is customary for the buyer to pay for the P&P/shipping, and those costs always include the packaging. I told you about P&P because you seem to have never realised what it stood for on your own, otherwise you wouldn't have been surprised about her charging you for the envelope i.e. the packing.

>>7043904
That's literally never something I've been charged for when shopping on Comm Sales, which I have done many times since then. It's possible that it's just been included in the price, but she's the only person who has said, "By the way, you are paying for you envelope."

Get the sand out of your cunt.

>>7043913
not the anon you were replying to, but i've been charged for envelopes/boxes before on the comm sales too. it's not that common, but it's really not unheard of either.

>>7043531
>>7043532
I think this girl is in my comm actually...

>>7043920
Yeah, it's just not an experience that I've had outside of that one, so I assumed it wasn't the norm.

>>7043531
Does she remind anyone else of Margaret McPoyle from It's Always Sunny?

>>7043951
best of luck, anon.

I'm worried I've been a buyer the last few years. I rarely leave feedback just because I usually lose the post it's from and don't have the link, and then life happens.
I don't mean to be a bad buyer and I really appreciate the sellers b/c I've never had a bad experience on egl comm sales, and I don't know what to do to make it better. Going back and finding everyone I've bought from and the links would take weeks (thousands of transactions.)
Do you guys have any advice?

>>7044069
Thousands? Girl how much have you been buying??

>>7044069
If you can specifically remember a seller, message them and ask if they still have the link because you'd like to leave feedback. Otherwise, just forget it, and strive to leave feedback in the future.

>>7044069
hunting down the links really isn't that hard. you can filter posts by going to "egl-comm-sales.livejournal.com/?poster=USERNAME". put the seller's name instead of USERNAME, and that should show you all of that seller's posts.

>>7044073
like actually i buy a lot of accessories and skirts. it's been over the course of 7 years and probably averaging 5 items a month if it's small, only 1 if it's something big like a dress. More in winter b/c more money. My closet is pretty spiffy.

>>7044084
I'm referring to after i receive the item, time has gone by, I don't remember their username. I'll use this trick now to hunt it down. It's just a bitch when the person posts like every week and I'm looking for posts from 6 months ago.

I've been trying to build up my feedback, but the two people I've bought from on comm sales have not left me feedback or responded to the messages I've sent them about it.
What's the point of even having feedback if no one ever leaves it? Ugh.

>>7043180
>Valkyrie_Ryu
Mmmm she sounds like a pain in the ass. Good job anon: you did the right thing and by leaving a neg you have warned another buyer off her shitty service.

>>7043702
This! This actually breaches PP terms and conditions anon and you should really contact them.

>>7044069
What i do:
When i have purchased something i note down what it was, the link, the date i paid and the date sent. I make a note of all these things in a file on my comp as well as the pic of the item so that if anything arrives broken, dirty, ect... i know who to contact and when i bought it.

This works for feedback as well since you have all the particulars and you also keep track of what you bought just in case something doesn't show up.

>"Hey is it OK if I pay you half of the money for this dress now and half of it in 2 weeks?"
>"OK Anon, that is fine"
>2 weeks later
>"Are you ready for me to send you the rest of the money for the dress?"
>"Actually I am having issues with my credit card, can you wait a few weeks or send the money to my boyfriend's Paypal?"
>"Umm... I guess I can wait a few more weeks?"
>3 weeks later
>"OK Anon you can send the rest of the money to my paypal now."
>"I will ship your dress out tomorrow!"
>wait 2 weeks
>"My dress hasn't arrived in the mail yet, do you know where it is?"
>"Customs is holding your dress for 2 weeks, Anon. I can submit a claim and then hopefully they will send your dress out in another 2 weeks."
>"Uhhhh... I can has refund?"

And that's where I'm at in this neverending saga.

>>7043845
Many, in fact most sellers on the comm sales charge the PP fees and shipping as well as handling (which can include packaging, gas money to drive to a post office, whatever). And often these days I hear of sellers who just roll it into the dress price to avoid the whining of noobs like you.

>>7044156
Uhhh how would she know if customs is holding it? I assume you don't have tracking or else you would be able to tell if that was true or not...?

>buy blouse from Closet Child
>they mix up my order and send me an expensive dress instead
>I post about this on egl because I thought it's funny, the other buyer contacts me
>send dress to her and tell CC
>it gets lost in the mail and I don't have the receipt anymore
>both the other girl and Closet Child think I'm a dirty liar who has kept the dress

Haven't posted on egl since

>>7044193
I wish more sellers would just combine the price. I'd rather know upfront that I'm paying x amount for a dress rather than have to go through the ringer of mailing options/their personal fees/whatever else.
It also saves the seller hassle from people who don't get that shipping and handling fees are inherently expensive, and you're already paying for a $150 dress so just hike up your bloomers and deal.

>>7043532
....why the hell does she look so green

>>7044251
>you're already paying for a $150 dress so just hike up your bloomers and deal.
this so hard

>>7043781
>>7043794

I'm not so sure she knew it wasn't brand.
I mean, it was listed as MM, looked identical to the original -it was Angelica OP, so not to hard to mess that up- and she was incredibly polite. She only had it listed as about 50, with the shipping included, because of it not fitting or someother. If I was sure she knew, I would have a chat with paypal, but I really don't think she had any malicious intent. That and it's a whole lot of flak to sift through (paypal is notoriously shitty at business dealings) when it could have just been an honest mistake.
I didn't find her via the comm sales, so no one here should have anything to worry about.
If anything, I got a replica to wear around family as a "nice dress, and a lesson to ask for a picture of the tag.

>>7043666
I think anon meant Paypal fees, not postage and packaging fees.

>>7044251
Because you're more likely to get buyers if you say "Dress is $200 + shipping" than "Dress is $210 if you're in the USA or $235 if you're x country or $250 if you're in y country" etc.

> Me at fault:
The Royal Mail keeps changing their fees lately, it seems the website can't even keep track anymore. I had a dress I was planning to sell at some point in the future, but a girl who wanted it really badly as soon as she could and spomanaged to convince me to sell it. It was touch and go at first but everything was okay eventually, she was pre-warned of my busy timetable and the dress made it to her on time, selling it for a low price as I was tight on cash and didn't want to appear to be scalping.
Except, when I'd weighed the dress and used the online postage calculator I'd been quoted £2 cheaper than it turned out to be to send it. I was getting really low on cash at that point, so really every penny counted. In the end I asked her to paypal me the extra shipping £2 after the sale, which just seems so pathetic, and wouldn't have fought her if she didn't want to. She did, and I'm so glad, but I didn't send her a copy of the receipt, so to this day I'm worried she thought I was just trying to push a very minor scam or something.
I'm sorry dress-chan! I should have maybe double checked, but I wasn't lieing!

> Possibly someone else at fault, or just me again:
Total crybaby story here, but I bought a skirt on the egl sales comm that was just listed as a worn 'offbrand sailor lolita' skirt. When it arrived I learned it was shorter than I expected and actually from Topshop, I'd have still bought it if I knew where it was from but the fact it was withheld and the tag was hidden in the photo bugged me a bit. I paid about £30 for it, so I'm not sure if I paid full price or even more than the original price, but when all was done I mentioned it, before adding I loved the skirt and was happy with her service and could we do feedback. I messaged her twice and not a single reply, if she was scared of getting negative feedback she could have declined or even pretended she hadn't noticed the huge label on the skirt.

>>7043682
you better raise high holy hell and make damn sure she didn't slip in some "MM inspired" shit. That's balls out insane

>>7044582
I'm having an issue with Royal mail too. I bought a dress around 8/4, and the seller shipped it then, but never provided me with a tracking number - citing busy schedules.

Apparently it was just returned to her yesterday and she said she would send it out again the first thing on Saturday morning. Is this common, or is she running some sort of scam?

She's been really good about replying to my facebook messages, just never providing a tracking number.

>>7044620
forgot to add, I'm from the USA and she's in UK.

>>7044251
>>7044573
For me, it's also because if I repost, I have to take 20% off the shipped prices rather than the original price, which cuts into the profit.

>>7043953

That's because most sellers charge it is as part of the shipping cost, up until some bitchy buyers starts requesting two-dollar refunds because the stamps on the package come up two dollars short of the shipping fee. I think your seller just wanted to point out that hey, the other two dollars goes towards the envelope, it's not just the stamps that are covered in the shipping fee.

>>7044620
Sounds like bullshit to me. How long has it been since you paid?

This isn't a horror story but it is a little irritating.

I started a payment plan with a girl for her skirt, however it's been a month and she still hasn't given me her paypal address so I can pay her. I've sent her multiple messages but she hasn't replied to any of them...

I'm not sure what to do nor why she wouldn't want to give me her details so she can get paid unless she's already sold the skirt.

>>7044692
who was the seller, if you don't mind me asking?

>>7044069
Just bookmark the page? Then once the item arrives you can go to the page, leave feedback and delete the bookmark.

>>7044639
I paid on 7/31, so I'm slightly miffed about it taking so long. I'm still waiting for her to provide me with the "new tracking number" but it smells fishy to me.

I'm a little worried. I purchased a BTSSB skirt from FB sales about a week or two ago and while the seller said it was shipped, it hasn't arrived since the estimated Tuesday. I'm friendly with my local post office so I know it's unlikely to be lost or misplaced by them.

She said she purchased insurence, which is rather unusual but I did not recieve any proof of shipment. I did not ask until now though because she posted good feedback. It was $125 shipped and insurence claims take eons so I'm just really nervous. I liked the skirt too.

>>7045094
Mail gets delayed, i would wait a week or make a parcel inquiry on line using your tracking number. Don't freak out yet just start making enquiries.

There's a lot of negative stories being shared, so I thought I should share a positive one.
>selling an IW JSK to a girl from California to Germany.
>Life decided to shit in my face. Boyfriend's old apartment lease ends, we're having a hard time finding a house, worried I'll fail my classes etc so I delayed to send the package.
>My roomate decided to be nice and send the package out for me.
>he sends it first class (the slowest option), with no tracking, no insurance.
>I fucking panic because the girl wanted both of those.
>tell her the situation, and apologize profusely again. She says it's fine as long as it makes it in time for the IW teaparty.
>weeks pass and the event is approaching, and I'm in panic mode.
>she messages me and frustrated as fuck, I'm depressed because house search has denied us 2 times because we weren't a single family (2 roomates with us) and we're about to move into a janky-ass house that's old and has holes in the fucking garage shingles.
>getfucked.jpg

continuing

>>7045130
cont.
>decided to do the right thing even though money is tight.
>"German girl, I'm going to refund you what you paid for the dress. I'm so sorry for my mistake. But I hope that if it does come to you, I hope you will be honest and let me know."
>girl was surprised i stepped up to my mistake and gave her the refund
>three-four days later the dress arrives to her door
>she lets me know with a paypal refund and a sweet but gracious thank you note about my honesty
>boyfriend and I find a beautiful home to rent on craigslist the same week
>pass all my classes
>to top it off, SS messages me and lets me know that KL has custom sized Mozrabic Chants leftover and one's a perfect fit in my size. I was able to purchase it with the refund money.
>everything went better than expected

>>7045130
cont.
>decided to do the right thing even though money is tight.
>"German girl, I'm going to refund you what you paid for the dress. I'm so sorry for my mistake. But I hope that if it does come to you, I hope you will be honest and let me know."
>girl was surprised i stepped up to my mistake and gave her the refund
>three-four days later the dress arrives to her door
>she lets me know with a paypal refund and a sweet but gracious thank you note about my honesty
>boyfriend and I find a beautiful home to rent on craigslist the same week
>pass all my classes
>to top it off, SS messages me and lets me know that KL has custom sized Mozrabic Chants leftover and one's a perfect fit in my size. I was able to purchase it with the refund money.
>everything went better than expected


I know I probably shouldn't blindly trust everyone I do sell to since it's very naive and it could have gone really badly. I could have been fucked and lost the dress as well as $100. But it really makes me happy to know that there are people out there that are honest.

>>7045130

> positive story

this is a horror thread

>>7043164

Who is this person so that we all know who to avoid doing business with (selling / buying)

>>7045141
Did you even read the thread?

>>7044069

I always bookmark the pages, put them in a folder called egl sales.

>>7045085

Can you still file a claim with Paypal?
Do that, ask her for the tracking code, and if you don't get it soon, escalate the claim.

>>7045130
>>7045139

Skipped over this, it's a horror thread, not interested in positive stories.

>>7045139
I am in the same boat anon! i just hope that the item arrives to my buyer and that she is honest enough to refund me! :/

>>7043951
yea SF bay area

Can we get more stories?

£80 custom fees.
Sigh.

>>7044620

I live in the uk and an old housemate of mine used to pull shit like this all the time. EG: be too lazy to ship out a dress, so would just put it off anfoff, then either say "OMG it got lost in post sorry", or "omg its just taking a long time" then rush out to post it.

I have been using royal mail for many years and I have never had a late or lost package yet.

Be prepared to open a disagreement is all I can say.

Along the same lines as the stories above:

Early March I purchased some Mbok items through a SS. I prearranged the SS to hold the items for a while because I was in the middle of a move and didn't know my address yet. -"Okay, no problem". Cool. A month or so passes by, we get into contact again. She was worried what happened to me and we set up to have my items shipped after a national holiday. The holiday pass, a few weeks later the package was sent. I was tracking it and noticed it was delayed in customs for about a week. Not a big deal, I've heard of this before so I decided to wait. Week goes by, I'm starting to get nervous. I call customs and find out the package was returned to sender THAT MORNING! (that was about 1 month ago).
I contact seller. It's a pain, but okay, no problem. REpay the shipping and wait for her to send it out. FML I hate customs

>>7044156
>>7044193
Sill waiting for this to get resolved. I just filed a paypal claim today for 1 of the 2 transactions.

>>7047382
Why not both? Or was it too late for the first payment?

>>7043180
>Valkyrie_Ryu
Would you mind telling us her facebook name so I can block her on there and not buy from her on fb communities? Ty

>>7047683
her name is Sheena Allana, but her facebook name is also Valkyrie Ryu. She's pretty "special"

>>7045130
>>7045139
it's a horror thread you fucking idiot

>>7047691
Thanks a bunch!

>>7044240
These post offices are holding on to so many dresses. They still have my petti that they've last january 2012.
I wonder what their wardrobe looks like nowadays.

>>7047745
>last
lost.

So besides the sellers that were named, can we get a list of more folks to stay away from, regardless of which transactional end they're on?

>>7047745
When one of my dream dresses didn't show up when it was supposed to, I was trying not to freak out, since it would have been really hard to find again. It came in a couple days later, but I was so worried there for a few days.

Sage for happy ending.

Bumping back to page 0.

>>7044731
I've sinced messaged her a few times on facebook and lj and still no response.

The seller is Katarzyna Świątoniowska