/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Well there was Liz Katz

I consider this $4,690 well spent
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/sexy-princess-peach-cosplay--13

>>7029703
Liz Katz is part of the scg attention orgy.

>>7029698
Why am I not surprised that Ai-honey is project manager on that?

>>7029708
Ai-honey heading up a big circle jerking attention whoring project that is entirely about elevating their own 'fame'? Well I never.

>>7029703
>>7029707
And it ain't $4.6k well spent when for free you can google her and see her riding cock and eating pussy.

I wish Ghost Dive had been funded
(a movie starring cosplayers)
Though it was mainly just cleavage shots if the video is anything to go by

>>7029715
I'd have been ok with that.

SCG are looking to do something new that hasn't really been done before in the cosplay community.

We don't earn any money from the work we do (which is quite a bit considering we run the FB page, the website and we also put money into the shoots we do, and take time out of our full time jobs to do the shoots and get them edited)
and we do nothing but share around the work of cosplayers of all types.

You don't have to chip in, but I wouldn't say that this is just to 'elevate their own fame' thats not our motive.

Its to help bring the community together. Have you ever been to one of our booths at a convention and spoken to us? Probably not... You'd know that we aren't like that.

We are also already international by the way. We have photographers in various countries.

Feel free to discuss this if you'd like, i'm not doing much today.

- Matthew (Photographer for SCG)

>>7029774
Never been done? I think cosplay for a cause did it but actually donated their money rather than keeping it for their own pocket.

>>7029774
If you guys have full time jobs, pay for it yourselves.

>>7029774
Why do they have to all go to the UK to shoot? I assume that it's going to be each girl gets a month, then a group shot? Well why not have an extra girl to make up the 18 months, do the shoots where the girls are located, and save a lot of money overall. Then when they go to Expo, they can pay for their own flights/accommodation.

>>7029793
We aren't keeping it for our own pockets at all, most of it will be used on budgeting for the sets and props for each shoot, the flights, accomodation, ticket prices for expo, larger stall space for expo so people can have free signings etc

The remainder will go on launching our online magazine in which we will try our very best to help share the good in the cosplay community and to keep everyone updated with news, reviews, tips and q&a sessions with different cosplayers.

>>7029794
We are bringing them all to the UK because the idea is to have each shoot with multiple cosplayers, not individuals. It works a lot better for everyone to come to one place, as we discussed whilst spending a few months planning this. We are using two photographers to do the work - Daniel and Martin Wong, both very very talented guys, so its not a case of doing each shoot where the girls are located, because we want the same kind of theme and style all the way through. Hidrico will be retouching all the images as well. Plus, we will be working with Sneaky Zebra on a video Collab which requires the girls to be together...

I can't really say too much more without going into secrets but we discussed with all of the girls together on what would be best to suit both them and us.

>>7029795
Yeah, that makes sense when we all have rent to pay and bills like normal people do. Don't forget, this isn't to boost our ego's or to get us in the limelight, this is to do something that we haven't really seen done properly before!

>>7029802
>we all have rent to pay and bills like normal people do
then maybe you shouldn't be taking time off work to indulge in your expensive hobby, if money is so tight that you can't all put aside a little bit each month towards funding your own projects.

>>7029802

Hasn't been done before you say? Just googling cosplay calender gets me about 7-10 hits and at least 4 kickstarters already with this concept.....

>>7029802
You kinda contradict yourself there.

>so people can have free signings
>this isn't to boost our ego's or to get us in the limelight

Only cosplayers who think they are well known or have big ego's sign stuff.

Also,
> this is to do something that we haven't really seen done properly before!

Cosplay for a cause did a calender properly before and they donated their money. Please tell us how they didn't properly do it.

>>7029802
I hope you know that your project sucks. Cosplay In America does better job at uniting cosplayers than your little circlejerk bullshit will ever amount to.

>>7029774
>and we do nothing but share around the work of cosplayers of all types
>cosplayers of all types
Except cosplayers who aren't skinny girls in their underwear.

No one will fucking care even if you go to MCM. MCM no one bothers to get tickets properly and if they do it's only to buy stuff or the masquerade or some select panels.

This is making me angry. Cosplay is a hobby. No one should beg for money for this kind of shit like you are doing. You set it up yourself as it is a hobby and something you do on the side that you enjoy. Do you see any of the Japanese cosplayers starting kickstarters for their photoshoots? No, and they still manage to make some amazing photos.

You are contributing to this current cancer in the cosplay world that tries to make this more than just something people do as enjoyment and making it more about money and fame. If they want to go to MCM, they pay for it themselves just like every other cosplayer who wants to go to another con in another country. They want a good photoshoot? They can contact the photographers themselves and pay for a shoot.

What gives you the right to ask for this when thousands of other cosplayers sort these kind of things out themselves anyway? People who put their own money into this? This is just as bad as that Wild Places thing and you'll probably produce the same shitty results.

Also some of these cosplayers/costumes are so mediocre. Why would anyone pay to have that super generic and lackluster Misty come over from Australia?

This has been a long rant but I am really getting annoyed with these kind of projects.

£30k so cosplayers get a free holiday and glorified photos? Also, why not use all UK cosplayers? That sort of hurts a bit. I would have donated if it were all UK, doesn't feel like you're supporting your own country if I honest!

>>7029840
Oh wow you worded this so perfectly there's literally nothing else I can add!

>>7029844
They've already tapped the UK's well of attention whores and drained that fucker dry.

>>7029802
>larger stall space for expo so people can have free signings etc
I am guessing free signings is the only thing you can some up with that doesn't conflict with your idea that
>We aren't keeping it for our own pockets at all

I mean, doesn't every cosplay who owns a booth sell prints (at a price that has a decent profit) and signs stuff for free.

If getting a larger stall for signings your only reason for needing a larger one, don't get it. Save the money towards the shoot.

Why should we help fund your magazine. Most online magazines are unpopular hence why most aren't around anymore.

>we will try our very best to help share the good in the cosplay community

Isn't the page called Sexy Cosplay Girls.....
You only post pictures that are of moderately skinny girls. Please tell me again how this does not imply that if you aren't somewhat skinny, you aren't sexy or good enough for the SCG brand. Oh but you have posted two pictures of larger girls, please tell me how this means you are accepting and diverse in the 99% of your other pictures. What about black cosplayers.... I forgot, they aren't good enough for you either.

surprised J-Nig hasnt got involved with a kickstarter

if you want something to succeed, get J-Nig on board, her fanboys throw money at her

Even Yaya doesn't need a 30k kickstarter for her calendars. Complete waste of money - you should all be volunteering your time and making the calendars to sell for a small profit. Ridiculous amount of money involved, we're in a recession here?!

>>7029862
I thought JNigs had been in a few early on which never took off. People like throwing money at her but not necessarily the other things and people she's involved with.

>>7029708
>Ai-honey is project manager
All you need to know /thread

>>7029868
They did for the The Wild Project that she was involved with.

>>7029802

The basic truth from >>7029865
>Even Yaya doesn't need a 30k kickstarter for her calendars.

So go fund you own plan tickets, con tickets, booth price, and everything else you are doing in "your hobby" with "your job".

>>7029873
True, but that was on track to be funded before it was public that she would be involved and then even after she pulled out it carried on getting funding.

How is everyone forgetting about SCG's "male" focused side and their project.
( www.kickstarter.com/projects/954587867/men-vs-cosplay-2014-gaming-calendar-project )

At least with this, I feel better about the idea of supporting because you are shedding light on the male side that rarely gets any attention.

>>7029883
They're also asking for a hell of a lot less.

Taken from the actual kickstarter page:

You are probably wondering why we need so much, so I'm going to explain where the money is going.

Flights - The majority of the cosplayers are coming from outside of the UK, and they are bringing a few costumes, extra luggage may be needed.
Accommodation and food - We need to provide accommodation and food for all 17 cosplayers and the crew for a whole week.
Transport - We need to get everyone from the airport to the hotel, and from the hotel to the locations where we are going to be doing the photo shoots.
Location - We will need hire locations for the majority of the photo shoots, and that comes with a cost.
Convention - We will need to provide tickets for MCM Expo for all the cosplayers and the crew.
Production - We need to cover the costs of all the posters, calendars, dvds, collectible cards and t-shirts.
:Please tell me why we are basically paying for everything and everyone involved is getting the free ride. How do I get on with this project?

Taken from the actual kickstarter page (The one about the girls, not guys):

You are probably wondering why we need so much, so I'm going to explain where the money is going.

Flights - The majority of the cosplayers are coming from outside of the UK, and they are bringing a few costumes, extra luggage may be needed.
Accommodation and food - We need to provide accommodation and food for all 17 cosplayers and the crew for a whole week.
Transport - We need to get everyone from the airport to the hotel, and from the hotel to the locations where we are going to be doing the photo shoots.
Location - We will need hire locations for the majority of the photo shoots, and that comes with a cost.
Convention - We will need to provide tickets for MCM Expo for all the cosplayers and the crew.
Production - We need to cover the costs of all the posters, calendars, dvds, collectible cards and t-shirts.


::Please tell me why we are basically paying for everything and everyone involved is getting the free ride. How do I get on with this project?

>>7029904
Pretty sure people who have a stall don't have to buy tickets to MCM so I think that's a lie already then.

>>7029914
You have to buy a dealer's pass. And then you only get like 2 tickets per table, so I guess since they want a bigger table they'd probably get about 4 passes, so they would indeed need to buy extra passes.

Stuff like this takes the cosplay community 50 steps back. Very distasteful and anyone with a decent name (cosplayer or photographer) would avoid this like the plague. It is not going to be looked upon well by either the British or American community. Way to annoy everyone guys.

Here's an idea give money to the decent cosplayers who can't afford to cosplay anymore and can't get the money together for conventions. I'd rather give money to them than this sub-par fame hungry lot.

>>7029919

This.
I really don't want to hop on the "lol fake nerd" bandwagon, but this is seriously questionable.

>>7029883
Then the question is why are these two different kickstarters? Why not do both as one or at least do both under the same project? Separating them just highlights the gender divide.

>>7029932
Aren't they being run by two different people?

>>7029883
>>7029887
The standard of cosplay from those guys is way ahead of the girls on the other page.

>>7029938
You tend to have higher quality cosplay when clothes are involved.

>>7029883
Their price breakdown seems a lot more reasonable
>Printing/Shipping (3400), 700 (gas money for photographers, props, and other photoshoot needs), Kickstarter/Amazon fees (roughly 400)

Assuming they went for a more local scene?

I kinda like how the Matt guy basically stopped trying to defend this :P

Why do you need to shoot at fancy locations if you plan on flying a photoshop whiz in to create backgrounds? Sounds like a glorified mess around to be honest.

HEre are the perks


>Thank you Postcards will be a group photo of all the cosplayers involved and their printed signature.

>All posters will be of photos from this project, there will be a variety of images from each photoshoot for you to choose from.

>Each page of the calendar will be A3 size, each month will be a different photo, and they will all be group images.

>The videos in the behind the scenes DVD will be separated in chapters (photoshoots).

>You can only get the project T-shirt if you are a backer.

>MW Exclusive Collectible Cards will contain individual shots of each cosplayer wearing every costume they wear during the project.

>The Official Backer Bundle includes all the perks apart from MW Exclusive Collectible Cards.

>A date and time for the Skype Q&A with all the cosplayers will be sorted after the project is funded, we hold the right to remove you from the video call if you behave inappropriately. This video call will happen some time between 21-25th October 2013.

>For you to be a zombie, you need to be able to make your own way to the location (London or surrounding areas).This will happen some time between 21-25th October 2013.

>You get a chance to meet and share a meal with all the cosplayers involved in the project and the SCG team. You will also receive a pass, that gives you access to London MCM Comic Con, in October, for the whole weekend (25-27th). We reserve the right to ask you to remove yourself from the venue, if we think your behaviour is inappropriate. You should be able to provide your own transport to the venue (London).

>>7029947
wtf is with all these Skype calls as a perk? Are people really that desperate to Skype with a pretty girl?

>>7029904
>Flights
Okay yeah, flights for around 20 people could be expensive. But it seems strange to fly in unknown international cosplayers when there are other UK cosplayers who are better known to begin with.

>Accommodation and food
This is only expensive if you're setting everybody up in a 4* hotel in central London.

>Transport
Costs next to nothing unless you're planning cross-country trips and if you're doing that then why try to have everyone based in one area to begin with?

>Location
It's England. America has varied locations. Mainland Europe has really varied locations. England has generic cities, fields and interchangeable manor houses. Most of these cosplayers are coming from places with more interesting locations to start with. Locations in England are not a major expense.

>Convention
Tickets to MCM Expo are something like £15. Unless you're trying to get every single person inside at the same time, this should not be an expense.

>Production
Posters, calendars, cards and t-shirts cost next to nothing to have printed up these days. Even DVDs are not expensive.

will the cosplayers be doing stuff in current costumes or making new ones?

>>7029951

l-lewd

>>7029951
She claims she hardly does any 'sexy cosplays' but joins some sexy cosplay group and then does a costume where her boobs are smooshed together and hanging out, and her naked crotch is almost completely on show. Way to have standards.

I was going to write something and then I couldn't be arsed. I'm surprised you can be arsed to bitch about it, the whole thing has me bored rigid.

I know, cool story Kelly.

>>7029774
>>7029802
Guys you don't know how 4chan works. Shoo.

>>7029966

she is wearing underwear

>>7029969
That... doesn't leave much to the imagination.

I'd rather donate to stuff like the zelda project than this (and that's saying something because I don't think they should be getting the money they do) At least they have some talent between them....

>>7029950
>England has generic cities, fields and interchangeable manor houses

WAIT YOU DID NOT.

BESMIRCH ME BUT DO NOT BESMIRCH MY GLORIOUS ENGLAND

no but really, did you forget we have castles and history and shit?

>>7029950
In short, most of us could do a better job on a. a smaller budget or b. using volunteers.

Part of me really hopes that they do make their funding, because I want to see if it's going to be like that Wild Places failure. But at the same time, I don't really want to see £30,000 going to waste when there's so many better things that money could be going towards.

>>7029976

>no but really, did you forget we have castles and history and shit?

This just in, so does everywhere else in Eurasia.

Comment from the FB page "30K seems quite a lot just for a calender. The reasons you picked for the justification of costs seems ridiculous. Our money is going towards flights, food, accommodations, transportation, and conventions. Location and Production seem to be only reasonable things you should be asking money for." Agreed.

I'm just confused. How does making a calender and traveling all over the world help out the cosplay community? Couldn't you just start a FB page and load tutorials? That would be more helpful.

Oh wait, there's no sexy half naked girls involved in that. My bad.

1st rule of dealing with something you don't like is to not advertise it and it's kickstarter page.

>>7029988
I never said elsewhere didn't? But to imply that England is dull and generic is also hilariously inaccurate.

>>7029989
I have to agree with this. The actual ladies and photographers involved in the project don't seem to be putting in any of their own money. Getting help with production costs is reasonable, since it'd just be like pre-ordering a calender. But paying for someone to have lunch while on holiday? Pay for it yourselves.

>>7029991

B-but anon you get a postcard and a t-shirt.

Don't be so ungrateful.

>>7029991
You've got to be pretty blind if you can't see that the whole "uniting cosplayers' thing is a poor cover for what this really is: self-serving assholes grandstanding for attention and quick cash.

>>7029993
YOUR COMMON SENSE IS NOT WELCOME HERE

It's something I always found charming about /cgl. It's like ground hog day and no one ever learns.

>>7029991
I'm guessing they can't sew or make anything nice enough to actually warrant a good tutorial. SO THIS IS HOW THEY HELP! WITH THEIR BREASTS IN A CALENDER!

>>7029998

As a fellow Englander, let's not kid ourselves; it's like America if it were monarchy now.

Dull and boring, but with Beefeaters.

>>7029998
The same things can be found everywhere else. In fact the countries that some of these cosplayers come from have even more impressive landscapes and landmarks.

>>7030002
Maybe you didn't sense my sarcasm anon. Here, I'll waft it in your general direction again.

I still don't understand why anyone in the right mind would pay money for other people's costumes and/or photo shoots. Fuck that, I can use that money to buy a new wig or fabric...this shit is stupid.

>>7029991
Just like we didn't ask for Yaya to be our cosplayer ambassador. It's ironic that none of these people are doing anything to actually help the community. It's all personal attention seeking & networking. Do you know who truly last helped out the British cosplay community? The guys who put Cosplay Island together for everyone and gave up their time. Thats what helping out actually looks like.

>>7029966
She works in hentai and does a fetish costume camshow so it really shouldn't be a surprise.

I don't support this because the bulk of expenses comes from two things: flights and hotels. It'd be much better to work with more photographers who are local to the respective cosplayers. "Partner" photographers who would be selected based on their abilities. Have them all send their raws to Martin Wong (lead photog) and the Spanish retoucher guy for post.

It's a glorified attempt to get other people to pay for a trip to MCM Expo.

>>7030003
>>7029993

That's nice, but no one here is fool enough to be suckered by this.

We're slightly more cynical than that, thank God,

>>7029949
>Are people really that desperate to Skype with a pretty girl?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewvugDE2cPo

>>7030011
I wasn't questioning you, I was adding to the sentiment.

>>7030022
wow that's a shitty bikini top...

>>7030024
Ah, my bad anon

>>7030013

I am not a cosplayer
I have plenty of money
I like to fap to cosplayers
Funding cosplayers gives me more fap material

>>7029991
>>7030002
>>7030016
The people who appoint themselves as the leaders or revolutionaries are always the very worst people for the task.

Cosplay in the UK is already pretty united. The only outside group is this very same sexy cosplay girls group. They made a laughing stock of themselves and distanced everybody else from them and now they're begging for acceptance by pretending to be our gallant leaders.

It's pathetic and only serves to dig them deeper into their sad little hole.

>>7030035
But why? There's so much free sexy cosplay girls. Plus there's that Liz Katz cosplayer posted earlier in the thread who has done proper full on porn.

>>7030027
You think Ai-honey gives two shits about craftsmanship when there are tits to show off?

So lets see they make 1000 calendars, sell them for $20 each, make 20K.
Does the money they make after reach their project quota go towards a charity or are people essentially paying them to make something that will make them money(Kickstarter money + sale money).

Now if they made this a limited free product that would be a different story, but I doubt they are.

>>7030006
:(

Right in the feels anon. Right in the feels.

>>7030013
Yeahhhh, though this isn't aimed at people like you. It's aimed at the weird culture that really likes posters and calendars for whatever obscure reason (no money is going to costumes or photoshoots directly either, not that it matters).

And who the fuck even uses calendars in this day and age? The only person I know who does is my Nan, and somehow I don't think this would be her thing.

I don't get it either. I'm just trying to help my friend avoid it being a complete clusterfuck.

>>7030035
>Paying for "porn"
I shiggity diggity...

>>7030049
>Yeahhhh, though this isn't aimed at people like you. It's aimed at the weird culture that really likes posters and calendars for whatever obscure reason

>It's aimed at people with a cosplay fetish.

Fixed that for you.

>>7030056
a cosplay fetishist who like physical items for some reason at that

>>7030049
>no money is going to costumes or photoshoots directly either
This seems like a bit of a contradiction, when earlier someone involved in your project stated
> will be used on budgeting for the sets and props for each shoot

So the money is going on the shoots but it isn't. Right.

>>7030049
It's aimed at people who want fap material and I honestly think you should walk away, you're better than this. It's clearly going to be a negative experience that you should hugely distance yourself from.

>>7030056
Not gonna lie, that probably accounts for a decent percentage.

Just calendars? It reminds me of the anon that said

>people still fapping to pictures in 2013

I don't understand the world sometimes at all.

>>7030064
if i had to guess it referred to paying photographers and paying for costume materials
which, as you pointed out, is just roundabout bullshit since it is going to gas money, permits, location rental, etc

>>7030038

I dont like porn. I have a costume fetish. Plus its sexier leaving something to the imagination.

>>7030066
>Just calendars? It reminds me of the anon that said
>people still fapping to pictures in 2013
>I don't understand the world sometimes at all.

So what do you fap to?

>>7030065

I think we need to grow up and realize fapping is nothing to be ashamed of.

Why does everyone look down on fappers like me? We all do it. :/

>>7030049
>It's aimed at the weird culture that really likes posters and calendars for whatever obscure reason
>And who the fuck even uses calendars in this day and age?
>I don't get it either. I'm just trying to help my friend avoid it being a complete clusterfuck.

I don't think the role of the 'project manager' is to highlight how retarded the project is and how weird someone is if they back it.

I'm with >>7030065. It pains me to say it but even you, Ai-honey, can do better than this.

>>7030064
>you're better than this

I get it, reverse psychology. NICE TRY ANON.

>>7030064
Yeah they didn't really give a very good run down. I know what I'm talking about better. It may be spent on /permits/ for locations. But since none of the photoshoot locations have been finalised (because what's the point if we don't make the total?) it's estimates at this stage. No one is being given money for costumes, anyway..

>>7030080
I didn't say it was retarded. I said I want to avoid it being a clusterfuck. Which basically involves me being a militant Nazi organising things.

I might think calendars are superfluous but a lot of people don't. And I have a lot of cool ideas for the photo shoot groups that are planned. I enjoy art direction and bossing people around, so.

>>7030079
>none of the photoshoot locations have been finalised
>estimates
You're asking for thirty grand before you even know where you'll be going and you're guesing at figures? Christ you people are fucking stupid.

>>7030079
>>7030088
Answer >>7030075 already.

>>7030080
I really like physical calendars even though I usually have a personal calendar set up on my computer as well. I can put things like school events, work schedules, birthdays and whatever on a physical calendar and everybody in the house can stop and look at it whenever they wonder about scheduling. I also prefer reading physical books as opposed to using something like a Kindle.

>>7030089
I said estimates. Estimates imply totals have been looked into, anon.

I want the calender but I don't really want to spend $55. Other cosplay calenders cost half (or less) of that.

>>7030088
But couldn't you do this outside of this kickstarter? You know a lot of photographers and people who can help, I would imagine many would have gladly given up time for free for you. And again, as mentioned, use UK cosplayers. People would have responded better to this I reckon.

>>7030088
>I have a lot of cool ideas
Do these cool ideas revolve around everybody stripping half naked and shoving their tits against the lens? Because that's the one and only idea you have ever showcased.

>>7030092
i have one on the wall that we got for free from the bank
i don't think i'll be buying a cosplay one

>>7030079
No I genuinely mean it. From one female to another, you are much much better than this project.

I like how Ai-honey tells her friends to leave because they don't understand and then makes a show of insulting the kickstarter herself and paints her friends as incompetent.

I bet they're super happy she's taken charge.

This and many other recent Kickstarter Cosplay things have me facepalming a lot these days.

When did Cosplay become such a self entitled bullshit machine?

I have no interest in this myself but had a friend who was. She had been following the page for a while and saw the announcement for the project. She thought it would be great. Now that she has seen the final Kickstarter announcement she was disgusted. I honestly don't blame her. Do we not have enough talented copslayers in the UK who would benefit from a project this that wouldn't cost the earth. Why is that people who set these projects up feel that they can get something from this?

Clearly people these days have forgotten the very essence that cosplay is a hobby.

This whole crowd funding/begging for money has me disgusted when there are better causes to send money to. If you want to do something with cosplay. Raise money for charity not to forsake cosplayers for a load of international ones. I'm sure each international cosplayer is good. But do they outweigh what we have in the UK.

This project and many others like it have really killed my feeling towards the hobby.

>>7029840
Very much agree.

>>7030101
>you are much much better than this project
She's a camwhore and a soon to be lapdancer. Her name is only known in cosplay because she bragged about fucking Lillyxandra's fiance. Ai-Honey is treated as a punchline by the entire UK scene.

She ain't better than shit.

This and many other recent Kickstarter Cosplay things have me facepalming a lot these days.

When did Cosplay become such a self entitled bullshit machine?

I have no interest in this myself but had a friend who was. She had been following the page for a while and saw the announcement for the project. She thought it would be great. Now that she has seen the final Kickstarter announcement she was disgusted. I honestly don't blame her. Do we not have enough talented copslayers in the UK who would benefit from a project this that wouldn't cost the earth. Why is that people who set these projects up feel that they are entitled to getting the money from this?

Clearly people these days have forgotten the very essence that cosplay is a hobby.

This whole crowd funding/begging for money has me disgusted when there are better causes to send money to. If you want to do something with cosplay. Raise money for charity not to forsake UK cosplayers for a load of international ones. I'm sure each international cosplayer is good. But do they outweigh what we have in the UK.

This project and many others like it have really killed my feeling towards the hobby.

>>7029840
Very much agree.

>>7030118
Don't lose hope! It fills me with hope seeing how many people oppose and question stuff like this (not just here but on their FB page too) If everyone thought this was great then for sure, what's the point. But the majority of us don't want stuff like this and that's pretty united I think.

>>7030099
Yeah, I don't buy cosplay calendars. I have a Homestuck one.

>>7030092
>>7030099
My Nan always gets ones of funny cats..

>>7030096
Yeah. It's not very exchange rate happy I guess anon. If we have any spares (since I'm fairly sure the calendars will be backers only.. but maybe I am wrong on there will be left overs), I'll send you one. You know. If it gets funded.

>>7030097
Honestly? I just don't think anyone would have cared if we had tried. Doing a Kickstarter is a great way to gauge whether anyone gives a fuck about your idea. If it flops, no harm done.

>>7030101
I at least appreciate the thought, anon.

>>7030108
I call everyone incompetent to their face, this is nothing new. It's just how I get shit done.

>>7030131
It's not just the exchange rate. I'm a Brit and I think £30 is expensive for a calender.

>>7030116
>bragged about fucking Lillyxandra's fiance

Pfft, I was around here annoying people long before then newfag.

And I am not going to be a lapdancer any more than I was signed to an escort agency (read: extra's agency).

>>7030118
People who us charity and Kickstarters in the same sentence make ME facepalm.

Kickstarters are a direct exchange of money for a product. Like buying a thing in a shop. Superfluous yes, but we all buy superfluous shit. YOU ARE COSPLAYERS AND LOLITAS enough said.

That being said, I would like to organise a charity related endeavour at some point. I have a few ideas I think would work well.

shit I just remembered it was in pounds. $46,000 USD.

>>7030141
>Kickstarters are a direct exchange of money for a product.
This is, ironically, what Kickstarter wants you to NOT think
http://www.kickstarter.com/blog/kickstarter-is-not-a-store

>>7030144
.. well my point is it's not a charity because you get a product out of it. You know what I mean.

>>7030147
Kickstarter is supposed to be more along the lines of a television funding drive

why dont you call yourself Ai-Honey anymore (except here?)

>>7030141
>showing tits
>begging
>product
Typical dumb british whore.

>>7030150
>painted nails

For a calender project, you can only get the calender if you pledge £30, £150 or £400. So out of 12 rewards, only 3 of them allow you to get the calender. That seems kind of weird.

>>7030148
Yeah and I mean it often is still used for a lot of video and youtube related things.

But those who associate kickstarters and charity do my head in. Yes the money could be better spent, but so could that $300 you spent on your last cosplay or BURANDO RORI SKIRT. Welcome to the first world, we are horrible horrible human beings.

>>7030150
I do on twitter as well.. I did try to use my real name here before too but it just confused people.

What's wrong with asking people to donate their own money for a cause they have an interest in?

Have we not in the past complained of various aspects of a show/movie which we disliked, and wished were done differently? Why not pay someone with the skills we lack the money to make our fantasies a reality?

That's the basis of Kickstarter: A website where many pitch in to commission something they desire, yet cannot obtain on their own.

Regardless, my point is why complain about these guys when unless you choose to donate it has absolutely nothing to do with you? Sure is elitism around here if this is the case.

>>7030128
Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feel this way.

>>7030141
Yet, the way a lot of the recent cosplay related Kickstarter are being advertised are people begging for money as if they were for charity.

>>7030144
Exactly. A Kickstarter shouldn't be used in a way that has been described. I know other Kickstarter Cosplay projects who have gotten a lot of flack as they have been used for personal gain which if I remember rightly goes against Kickstarters rules. They can be used for a group creative project like a film but not as a shop. Fair enough the SCG is a group that is doing a group creative project but my feeling is that its completely over the top when local talent could be used. People are more likely to be willing to part with their money if its a project that makes sense. To me it doesn't make sense and judging by some of the responses I have seen here and of the Facebook page quite a few people would agree.

>>7030167
I don't as a general rule spend that kind of money on clothes or cosplay. So for me spending quite a bit of money on a calender makes no sense to me.

>>7030128
Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.

>>7030141
Yet, the way a lot of the recent cosplay related Kickstarters are being advertised are people begging for money as if they were for charities.

>>7030144
Exactly. A Kickstarter shouldn't be used in a way that has been described. I know other Kickstarter Cosplay projects who have gotten a lot of flack as they have been used for personal gain which if I remember rightly goes against Kickstarters rules. They can be used for a group creative project like a film but not as a shop. Fair enough the SCG is a group that is doing a group creative project but my feeling is that its completely over the top when local talent could be used. People are more likely to be willing to part with their money if its a project that makes sense. To me it doesn't make sense and judging by some of the responses I have seen here and of the Facebook page quite a few people would agree.

>>7030167
I don't as a general rule spend that kind of money on clothes or cosplay. So for me spending quite a bit of money on a calender makes no sense to me.

Hi, Pay us to make a product and cover all the cost to have it produced so when we sell its 100% profit. FOR US.

>>7029802
You aren't keeping it to your pockets but it all goes to your accommodation and things you will be needing after all.

>>7030169
I agree.

I'm an older cosplayer who has been around for a while. I knew of cosplay before these kind of projects existed. Do I agree with them? In all honesty, no. Would I knock others for wanting to back projects like this? Nope. At the end of the day its up to people how they spend their money.

Yes, I do feel that projects like this are changing the attitudes of cosplayers in general and quite often not in a good way. I have seen a lot of these kind of projects of late and they have made other cosplayers feel less special because they are not part of a project like this. In many ways they have contributed to the nastier attitudes that some cosplayers have. In some cases it can spawn elitism which I'm not a fan of.

I'm not going rage against the project itself and those who chose to back it. In my opinion that wouldn't do any good. I personally would like to see more projects that involve local talents. Maybe something that does donate to a good cause as well. It is an interesting idea but I don't think its been executed well.

At the end of the day no one can stop projects like that except maybe the copyright holders depending on the costumes the cosplayers do. As long as people can still enjoy cosplay without feeling horrible about it its fine.

>>7030096
I know right, I could by a Calender from Yaya and Cosplay deviants for this price.

>>7030118
It wouldn't be so bad if the costs when into the actual production and not vacations.
At least with Cosplay in America, we are paying for one guy to travel all over the USA to shoot multiple costumes and cover the actual cost of print (depending on how much you wanna donate). The really funny thing is at least for $45 I am getting a book full of cosplayers.

>>7030131
>Honestly? I just don't think anyone would have cared if we had tried. Doing a Kickstarter is a great way to gauge whether anyone gives a fuck about your idea. If it flops, no harm done.


This can actually pull support and public opinion on them. I know I think differently of them as a collective. Makes me realize the the UK cosplay scene is just as attention whorish as it is here in the US.

>>7030279
This.

Sad to say but projects like this SCG Kickstarter are giving others a bad view of the UK scene. Yes, it is one massive circle jerk scene but it isn't all camera whores. Mostly its people who want to get drunk.

>>7029703
Jesus fucking christ
There really is no hope left for humanity

Least we still have cosplay projects that are being made on their own dime.

Street Fighter High never had a kickstarter page and was made for free for the community

>>7029972
Zelda Project needs a Kickstarter!!!!

>>7030517
go back to bed adella

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

jesus fucking christ if a bunch of attention whores want the slobbering neckbeards to give them a free ride can't they at least be honest about instead of hiding behind some bullshit intentions about "helping the community"?

funny how the only people "united" or "empowered" by projects like these are half-naked girls, huh?

>>7030552
You only hear about the successful ones or the ones involving half naked girls. There have been quite a few projects involving no name cosplayers or wasn't advertised as sexy. Some of them even didn't ask for much but they were unsuccessful. Why? Basically sex sells. If you aren't an attractive female with some sort of sex appeal or doing a costume that adds to your sex appeal, no one gives a shit.

not shocked even a little that Black Cat is a part of this, but im disappointed in eve. everyone knew Black Cat was less of a cosplayer and more a 'dress up model', but i thought eve was actually pretty classy

But...the two Australian girls are not even good cosplayers...they are just hot chicks who buy and throw together outfits...only there latest ones have been hand made...I'm really jelly.

>>7031529
actually...... eve creates her own costumes. gabbi has never made a single costume. ardella and ebay makes hers

>>7031529
>not even good cosplayers...they are just hot chicks who buy and throw together outfits
SCG in a nutshell.

>>7030514
And had production costs way above things like a calendar

whores-cosplayers unite

>>7030552
Projects like this are just men objectifying women. I have noticed that the people behind Sexy Cosplay Girls are male and the photographers are all male. It makes me wonder how the project could have been if the website had been run by women.

There is nothing new about women being objectified by men. Its a shame that most of the females involved with projects like this don't see it that way.

Don't get me wrong. There is nothing wrong with sexy cosplay. As long as its handled tastefully and within in the character then its fine. Personally, I much prefer to see a well made sexy costume that covers more but shows curves than someone who is nearly naked in a poorly made costume.

I'm sure the cosplayers involved are going to love the free holiday but is it worth being seen as a sex object for?

>>7031869
>but is it worth being seen as a sex object for
Most of them already are and embrace that. It's what most of them want. Look down the list of cosplayers and even the few fmales they have on staff. Every single one of them is a career attention whore and they've all taken it off for the camera many times.

>>7031995
Yeah I don't know how you don't think beings a voice actor for a hentai game wouldn't make them think being known as a sex object wasn't cool.

And people wonder why older cosplayers throw shade at people who do this.

Make your own shit, do it with your own money, realize you are a grown up playing dress up, talk to your fellow nerds cause you aren't special, and sex doesn't belong in every aspect of everything ever.

Fucking kids who need their egos stroked. Stop it.

>>7031995
Agreed, plus 2 of the UK cosplayers that have been picked have put themselves down as alt models, who hardly make anything, they're purely based on likes not craftsmanship, there are way better girls who actually cosplay that could of been picked

>>7030073
nice self post
really?
what is the point of posting this picture

>>7030073
That girls looks like a Facebook whore

I hope it doesn't succeed in funding but wouldn't be surprised if it does.

What bothers me about these girls isn't really the crowdsourcing or the fame-whoring so much as it is the fact that they never seem to bother accurately portraying the characters. Like, yeah, they make/commission accurate enough costumes, but they don't take age and body type into consideration (Misty is 12 and Asuka is 14 and both are a B cup at best, are they really the best choices for fully grown women?) and they all do generic "hot girl in a magazine" makeup rather than makeup that makes their features look similar to the characters'.

Kelly Jean, part of that, was a Hentai voice actress?
I'm not helping some whore who lent her moans so people could jack off to a cartoon.

>>7032912
yup

she did some of those henati 3d games for Umemaro.

Lewd waiting room (or something if I recall). About some doctor and nurse type shenanigans with stupidly booby characters.

>>7032920
I kind of respect Nigri more than her right now.
Nigri doesn't do porn of any kind or make kickstarters to beg for money.

(Unless she does, if so, correct me.)

You guys have no sense of humour. Hentai voice acting is hilarious (and well paid).

And it makes me no more a whore than any A list celebrity who's done a sex scene in a movie.

>>7032912
Umemaro 3D production "Consultation room" - Ai Koyanagi : Voice Actress,

Umemaro 3D production "Twin Succubus" - Kusuru Gotara : Voice Actress

Games were ok. But as I said, boobs too big.

>>7032959
it did sound fun sorta.

All that crap about how "he looks like he can go again" or something like that.

How well did it pay. no figure if you dont feel comfortable saying as such, but did it compare well to say working in topshop folding tshirts for a week?

>>7032959
Who are you, again?
Are you one of the chicks in that kickstarter?

>>7032992
Ohhh you're project manager.

I don't really follow "big cosplayers", sorry. I just know who some are.

>>7032992
She's the Lilith one. (3rd left) The brit cosplayer who did that girl with the large sniper rifle from that dork anime about piercing the heavens.

www.kickstarter.com/projects/954587867/men-vs-cosplay-2014-gaming-calendar-project

Jumping in as the person who launched this Kickstarter. We are a separate project/group. :) Sorry for any confusion.

>>7032997
LOL OH, she's the bitch who lends her moans!

Honestly, if I ever took that kind of job, it would never in fucking hell go on my résumé and I would go by a fake name in the credits.
What a shameful job, how the fuck does one even sink into enough desperation to VA that they do that?

>>7033011

You're kind of advertising and I don't see why when we are tearing this kind of stuff apart.

>>7032962
Yeah.. they were overly big. Shame, because the faces were really cute.

>>7032964
If I break down the hours I work to the average I get paid, it's 3-4x average UK minimum wage.

It varies of course. I had one client recently who made me do a million retakes and never hired me. I could have happily set that guy on fire. But otherwise everyone else after Umemaro have just paid me right away and asked for minimal retakes based on reference from past work.

Like any freelance work really, you get some dicks.

I don't apologise for the pun.

>>7032995
I'm not a big cosplayer, I'm just a local irritant to /cgl. So no worries.

>>7032997
>The brit cosplayer who did that girl with the large sniper rifle from that dork anime about piercing the heavens

Oh that's adorable. I'd make it my new twitter description but it's too nice..

>>7033011
Good luck with your KS btw! We got a couple of moans for being all female, so I'm tempted to give yours a plug and say WELL IF YOU WANT MEN, GO FUND THIS, Lol.

>>7033016
Now this is going to be a shock to you anon.

So sit down before I tell you this.

But

Ai Honey isn't my real name.

>>7033064

> Literally me right now

So, why haven't they made this a 'UK' calendar and actually used this opportunity to showcase all the UK talent, this just feels like a mess.

We have some very well respected cosplayers here who have won international competitions and travelled all over the world, aren't they the people we want to show off? Not girls who shove their tits in spider man tees and call it a Mary Jane cosplay.

I hope SCG read all this and see that they could really be doing something good for the community if they actually used our talented pool of cosplayers over here, instead of just trying to make money from flying a bunch of nobodies, that no one in the UK will care about, over here... I just don't understand it

Although thinking about it, I doubt any of our good cosplayers here would ever allow themselves to get involved - which again just adds to the shame that SCG have just isolated themselves from everyone else into their circle jerking attention whoring.

>>7033179
Actually.. nobody from the UK has won an international competition. UK came close with both groups coming second for ECG.. but still.

Winning/entering competitions is not the be all and end all to cosplay anon. You can be a great cosplayer and never make anything because cosplaying =/= costuming.

And that is coming from someone who makes all her stuff.

Anyway, we do have some WCS/ECG competitors among the girls who are coming.

>>7033193
Not to be difficult but have to agree with >>7033179 I don't understand why they aren't using more talented UK cosplayers.. save on costs and you could probably make a better calendar at a decent rate and not be taken as a joke.

And yes we do have UK international winners, Nomes won a contest in Milan this year, and Sands has won awards in Paris, but no one really cares because they don't get their tits out at every opportunity. I could name 12 great UK cosplayers easily that should be featured, and yes, I'd probably include you too as you do make neat and well finished costumes.

>>7033211
>>7033179
agreed

>>7033179
>trying to make money from flying a bunch of nobodies

This. Seriously, Miss Sinister? That girl is a fucking joke. You're better off just buying another copy of Photoshop and digitally constructing an image with her likeness...cause that's pretty much what all of her "photos" look like already. And Ani-Mia...who?

Really hope this shit fails...really really hoping...

>>7033193
Xaerael won ECC, how did you miss that?

>>7033179
SGC never gave a single fuck about the community, don't think they're even aware there is one

>>7033211
.. winning a contest in another country doesn't make it international. Winning one of the large international competitions (ECC, ECG or WCS) makes you an international winner.

Also I'm not sure Sands competed in a competition in France? But I may be wrong. Just don't remember her mentioning that off the top of my head.

And it's alright, I consider myself pretty average. There's only one elaborate costume I'd love to make and I can't afford it. I also lack the drive to make something that is beautiful but from as God awful a film as Snow White and the huntsmen. Laura and Ben had that playing to look up references and I actually wanted to kill myself. Worst film I ever had the misfortune of watching.

Anyway competitions in the UK are awful. Hyper Japan was a complete and utter cake walk for Laura, Ben and Lex. Lex even said "I really should have been beaten by somebody".

Don't get me wrong, if there was ever a worthwhile competition, with say Xae, Tab, Karen, Laura, Lex etc all in it I'd be fucking there with popcorn, but it never happens.

Anyway that's a tangent I suppose. The reason why there aren't more UK cosplayers is simply because it was built around the concept of 'unite'. It just seemed more interesting, I guess. That's about all the explanation I can give being it wasn't my initial idea. That being said, Taby is very talented (one of the UK lot) and Masubi has more elaborate work on her Masubi & Locust page.

>>7033235
Huh, crap my bad.

I admit I am less up on ECC than the other two as Xae isn't a close friend of mine whilst a lot of friends have entered both ECG and WCS.

this is so stupid...

So... this KS is for paying holidays to those cosplayers listed right?

They can shot perfecly in their country. If you'll have Hidrico working in this project you don't need paying their trips for shooting because that guy can do very impressive photomanipulations.
And what is Hikari doing in this project? She's an average cosplayer and Hidrico's gf, so I assume you're friends with them and they want a couple travel

There is seriously some pretty alright UK cosplayers who would love a chance to do a cool photoshoot but they aren't all about showing off T&A. A lot of them also aren't all giant attention whores. I think a calender could be fine if it was well done. It would be good too if proceeds went to a charity and it was all UK based while asking for a reasonable amount of money.

>>7033296
but you can meet them at MCM Expo! Cosplayers you probably have never heard about unless you're local to them! Which makes the whole thing kind of ironic. Yeah, it's a thinly veiled grab for people to pay for a UK vacation.

>>7033249
>another country
>Contests where many entries come from many countries
>doesn't make it international
>mfw

>>7033296
Considering how many photoshoots we're cramming in to the few days they're here? Not really. It's going to all be work. There's no free days for 'oh lets go explore the UK' anyway.

Unless you consider going to MCM a holiday. I for one, do not.

>>7033321
If you want to tar me with the attention whore brush, fine. But there are plenty of talented girls coming with us.

Here have pic related. And there plenty more like that too.

>>7034180
Yeah.. it doesn't. Too bad? If someone from another country won a prize at Expo or any of our other conventions it doesn't suddenly make that an international competition either.

cosplayers should be changed to dress up models if theyre going to use people like that. Some of them are pretty good others are just not even worth looking at let alone paying for

>>7032832
it's a picture of Ai-honey, the project manager.

If I was going to buy a calendar (an expensive one at that) of cosplayers, I would want it to be of of a high calibre of cosplayers, who make incredible costumes that would inspire me every month.

If I wanted pictures of cheap girls in latex catsuits I'd just buy a copy of Zoo.

I still don't understand why the calendar is so expensive. Cosplay for a Cause released theirs for $17.99 (around £11.63), and Yaya releases hers for $24.99 (around £16.17). Even the Men vs Cosplay calendar you can get that for $20 (around £12.93), and they're asking for way less money!

>>7034251
explains everything

>>7034262
Is anyone remotely convinced that making a calendar is the actual aim of this?

Lol, must be nice being pretty. You can literally use your appearance to have people pay any sort of shit for you

>>7034309
They're not even pretty. A lot of the cos-famous people aren't for that matter. They've got decent bodies and fappable faces I guess, that's all you really need, along with shameless self promotion.

>>7034362
>fappable faces
nope.jpg

There is not a single famous cosplayer out there with a face that ranks above 6/10. It's sad. There used to be way better looking ones than what we have now.

Everytime I see something like this it always sounds like a load of bullshit.
I'm a cosplayer and honestly even I wouldn't put up with this. Who the fuck am I to go on around asking people for money to make something that is just of my best interest?!

"Hey Let's have all this suckers pay us a free holiday and plus doing something we like! : DDD"
I saw someone in here mention project zelda when will you realise that in every case is just a group of people trying to get advantage of a fandom.
Learn to pay for your own shit, what makes me sadder? The fact that cosplayers like Nikita that I actually like are in this stupid thing

>>7031869
And this is why I quit caring about being shared on SCG
Not that I have any fame anyway, but what happened to making costumes for yourself? What happened to this being a HOBBY and not a circle wank of self-objectification?

>>7034417
(unf.)Everyday that passes it will be less an hobby, believe me.

>>7034404
>Who the fuck am I to go on around asking people for money to make something that is just of my best interest?!

That is what a person with actual shame thinks.
In my mind I say the same thing, why would I ever ever ever ask someone to pay for or make my shit. They have better things to spend their time or money on.

I know the people who do these kickstarters can't ever think along these lines. They are selfish self absorbed flaky people.

>>7034418
>Crying
don't remind me

Holy crap, somebody actually paid 400+ Britbong dollars.

>>7034422
I was the one who wrote what you quoted.
It's common sense. It's the same as "okay I'm a gamer I'll ask people around to buy games! : D"
It's just... I don't even know, it goes beyond my comprehension. WORST they act as if they're doing some god divine work for the community when they are clearly sucking all the little sad fellows money. Give them money SURE they say how thankfull and important u are... THEy doN'T EVEN KNOW YOU! Will they care when full of money and looking good in costume? NO!
They want to do something good for the community? Then make panels share your knoledge and help people with their questions about materials and techniques help the cosplayer's quality improve. (that's what I like to do to give something to the community much more useful than spreading my legs and showing my tits.) Get off your little crowns

>>7034249
Random tangent but I hate the whole "just clothes" critique. A character that wears a simple outfit should not invalidate the cosplayer's skill in portraying them.

>>7034446
Absolutely true, but when that's all you've done you really don't qualify as a top cosplayer who justifies £30k to fly around the world to be in a C-grad calendar.

>>7034249
> dat Halloween costume Harley Quinn

Oh god lol

>>7034417

Cosplay was always about attention

You dont make an outift and dress up unless you want other people to look at you

>>7034417
>And this is why I quit caring about being shared on SCG

We (I especially) share a diverse range of people. I've shared plus size girls, questionable looking girls and crossplayers.

Without meaning to be a jerk (I'm lying on this part) your costume PROBABLY sucked. Or possibly the photography sucked. Those are the only two reasons why stuff definitely gets turned down in submissions. Otherwise you probably got lost in the sea of messages, better to message the page than the email.

Anyway you bunch of hoe bags. NOBODY IS BEING PAID EXPENSES TO MAKE ANY COSTUMES. I'm not going to say that again.

>>7034508
>NOBODY IS BEING PAID EXPENSES TO MAKE ANY COSTUMES.
No, you're just getting all other expenses covered. It's not much better at all.

Even if it meant never having another photo taken again in cosplay, I would never ever allow SCG to take photos of any costume of mine. I consider them at the lowest end of cosplay photographers (probably not even on it in fact)

Why does anyone actually like this Ai-Honey person to begin with? she seems like a fucking scumbag.

>>7034544
If anything it's worse. Flights + room and board easily cost more than materials and that's what most cosplayers count as expenses for their costumes

>>7034551
Sure we wouldn't want your photo anyway.

>>7034581
And THERE is my new Twitter description. I need to start archiving the old ones.

>>7034581

because she is hot unlike you

>>7034601
jeez, Ai-Honey. Try harder much?

>>7034581
As a straight female who knows Ai-honey in real life, she's actually a lot of fun to be around. I'm sure she gets a lot of male attention since she's attractive, but she's got a lot of female friend too because she is fun to hang out with and talk to.

Kelly's pretty decent in person and cool to hang with. But online, she gets worked up over everything and mega defensive.
Shame really. You'd think after all those years she'd learn.

>>7034601
>>7034611
No, she is hot. She's not a nice person and she's dumb as fuck, but she is hot.

>>7034601
>>7034611
>>7034612
Why do I feel that you're all the same person.

Anyway I don't drop trip. As is painfully obvious every time I speak, I'm quite happy to say exactly what I think regardless.

>>7034620
This is the opposite to defensive. Defensive people do not happily make critical comments on their own project.

What you are seeing is my sense of humour, which 99% of people don't get so it's fine you're in the majority.

>>7034630
You do realize how your presence on a thread disparaging a project your in charge of could be perceived as defensive right?
whether your openly being critical about it or not, many seagulls perceive your attempt at humour as passive-aggressiveness.

Anonymous Sun Aug 11 21:08:37 2013 No.7029774 [DELETED]
Quoted by: >>7029793 >>7029794 >>7029795 >>7029842 >>7029967
SCG are looking to do something new that hasn't really been done before in the cosplay community.

We don't earn any money from the work we do (which is quite a bit considering we run the FB page, the website and we also put money into the shoots we do, and take time out of our full time jobs to do the shoots and get them edited)
and we do nothing but share around the work of cosplayers of all types.

You don't have to chip in, but I wouldn't say that this is just to 'elevate their own fame' thats not our motive.

Its to help bring the community together. Have you ever been to one of our booths at a convention and spoken to us? Probably not... You'd know that we aren't like that.

We are also already international by the way. We have photographers in various countries.

Feel free to discuss this if you'd like, i'm not doing much today.

- Matthew (Photographer for SCG)

Anonymous Sun Aug 11 21:43:21 2013 No.7029802 [DELETED]
Quoted by: >>7029818 >>7029824 >>7029826 >>7029828 >>7029857 >>7029877 >>7029967 >>7030215
>>7029793
We aren't keeping it for our own pockets at all, most of it will be used on budgeting for the sets and props for each shoot, the flights, accomodation, ticket prices for expo, larger stall space for expo so people can have free signings etc

The remainder will go on launching our online magazine in which we will try our very best to help share the good in the cosplay community and to keep everyone updated with news, reviews, tips and q&a sessions with different cosplayers.

>>7029794
We are bringing them all to the UK because the idea is to have each shoot with multiple cosplayers, not individuals. It works a lot better for everyone to come to one place, as we discussed whilst spending a few months planning this. We are using two photographers to do the work - Daniel and Martin Wong, both very very talented guys, so its not a case of doing each shoot where the girls are located, because we want the same kind of theme and style all the way through. Hidrico will be retouching all the images as well. Plus, we will be working with Sneaky Zebra on a video Collab which requires the girls to be together...

I can't really say too much more without going into secrets but we discussed with all of the girls together on what would be best to suit both them and us.

>>7029795
Yeah, that makes sense when we all have rent to pay and bills like normal people do. Don't forget, this isn't to boost our ego's or to get us in the limelight, this is to do something that we haven't really seen done properly before!

Why is Martin Wong the lead photographer in this project? From what I've heard, he's a famewhoring douchebag who will stop at nothing to make a couple of bucks off his overphotoshopped shit.

>>7034761
And many anon are retards. So I'm not sure what your point is exactly.

The day I start listening seriously to anyone around here is the day I top myself.

>>7034768
>>7034772
.. the only reason those comments were deleted because I told them to shoo. They dunno how to 4chan.

Good job there captain?

>>7034792
Guess who put it together? Sounds like standard operating procedure for him, doesn't it?

>>7034792
THIS. FUCKING MILLION TIMES.

Of all the photographers you could have chosen to fly in from USA, you choose Martin Wong as your lead photographer!!! Fucking whiny pest. Pray that you never have to deal with him. Even Gamerfan would be better to hang out with.

As for his photos, we're getting tired of your blue/orange lighting. Gets tiresome after a while buddy.

>>7029951
This costume was bought for her, it's one of the generic Mai Shiranui costumes for sale online. The only thing really self-made about it is the wrist guards.

>>7029840
This. By x90000000000

>>7034772
>secrets
Oh do tell us of the secrets! I can't wait to hear about how the Kickstarter money leftovers went to other "expenses"!

>>7034792
inb4hiswhiteknightfriendsshowup

>you will never see ai-honeys old camgirl videos and pics

T__T

Will you do these videos if I donate?

>>7033179
>>7033211
Completely agree. We have quite a few amazing cosplayers who get overlooked by photographers. Especially photographers behind projects like this. Yes, I know that 'sex sells' but I for one, don't want it as a major aspect to a hobby. I personally enjoy the hobby for its creativity and like-minded people.

Tbh, I'm glad that decent cosplayers like Nomes and Sands aren't involved with this SCG project. They are imo far better.

>>7033235
I think she missed it because he is a guy. Sad fact is that whenever a list of decent UK cosplayers is listed the guys are always missed off.

>>7033321
I would certainly consider buying one.

>>7034252
Agreed.

>>7034834

You didnt answer my question. So I'm not sure what your point is exactly.

The original question:
Do you understand that your presence in thread disparaging a kickstarter you are project manager of could be perceived as defensive?

Second question biased on response;
Why are you here if you think that "many anon are retards"? why bother attempting humour if "99% of people don't get"?

My point is clear. You do not have to empathize or agree, but your failure to understand the effect you, your behaviour, and your "humour" have in this thread is egocentric.
Furthermore you do not have to agree with me either but, responding without addressing my previous question (which I thought was a fairly straightforward yes/no) will only serve to undermine your attempt at being the "opposite to defensive." or "critical".

>>7034508
I didn't put it up to be shared in the first place.
So I think that you suck instead. How am I a hoe-bag again because I think this is a horrible idea?
Also I think you forgot that I DON'T want to be on the page any more.

>>7034505
But see there is such a thing as positive attention and negative attention, anon. Why do anything if you won't get recognition?
I really hope I don't have to explain this idea.

>>7034898
>This costume was bought for her, it's one of the generic Mai Shiranui costumes for sale online

Actually it wasn't bought for me. It was used in a shoot before. I did have to take it in as it was two sizes too big, but yes otherwise I didn't make it and stated as much.

>>7034906
That wasn't from justin.tv. It was actually a cute video to a friend, but never mind. The justin.tv streams were so boring you'd rather chew your arms off, trust me.

>>7035004
>Tbh, I'm glad that decent cosplayers like Nomes and Sands aren't involved with this SCG project

I dunno why you keep saying dumb shit like this like we excluded people. All the UK girls going were prior involved with SCG.

And no, I didn't miss it because he's a guy. As I said I do know Xae. I just don't keep up with ECC as much as ECG and WCS.

>>7035019
I am here because sometimes /cgl comes out with comedy gold lines such as:

''ai-honey, you're the queen of the fuckos. I think the government should limit your internet access.''

I enjoy annoying you all. I have been saying this for about four years now. huehuehuehue

>>7035080
>And this is why I quit caring about being shared on SCG
>I didn't put it up to be shared in the first place.

I'm sorry, but if you didn't submit how did you think you were ever going to appear on the page? By magical fucking ponies posting you?

wat. common sense, there is none here.

>>7035090
They may have been going prior to SCG but I'm not familiar with many of them.

If you don't keep up with the contests then why argue that they are flawed.

Yes, I agree that not every cosplayer is focused on competitions. But if you are going to comment on a point regarding comps then its worth having some knowledge on it.

>>7035084
There is some positive attention to be had in cosplay. I know of a couple of cosplayers who have gotten some amazing chances through cosplay but sadly everyone thinks they will get those chances. They will go about it the wrong way and fall flat.

>>7035090
>a cute video to a friend
People don't usually take off their clothes and sprawl on a bed for their friends.

>I enjoy annoying you all
But you don't, not really. That's why it's so great to keep this up. We get to keep laughing at how dumb you are.

>>7035131
I said I don't keep up with ECC as well as ECG and WCS. That =/= keeping up with nothing.

>>7035269
It was a terribad Tina from DoA closet cosplay.

Yes, you keep telling yourself that dear.

>>7034834
You obviously have no idea how to 4chan either. Just being here is fuelling the hate flame. So go fuck off and watch your income rise as greasy neckbeards throw their money at you fame whores in deluded hope that it will somehow get them in your pants.

>>7035376
Anyone else getting that awkward feeling that anon just described the hate fantasy they fap to every night?

>>7035392
Or he just provided you with another source of income.

Ai Honey Pants. You could either bring out an actual line of underwear. With "Ai-honey" written around the elastic (which would be a bolder colour than the main body of the briefs).... or do a more japanese style meaing of the word and sell used panties.

Bam!

If you can make enough of them for Aya I will give you space in the dealer hall.

>ITT: Ai-honey gets more butthurt than thought possible after her many years of anonymous anal sex with multiple strangers at once.

>>7035392
Why fap to a hate fantasy when we can fap to your nudes?

>>7035416
Could they be edible? And honey flavoured??

>>7035424
Oh you got me, I lol'ed at that one.

>>7035475
Give up anon ib.

>>7034249
No she made Super girl and Juliet. Why would she lie>

>>7037052
She even posted status updates about ardella making her costumes for her.
She never lied, to tell the truth. She just never said she made them and never credited ardella propertly.

>>7037052
Sorry to burst your little bubble anon but Gabbi used to admit to things like this before she got all big and famous and decided to become strayas nigri

>>7035101
Are you literally this stupid.
Thinking about it isn't wishing that you would personally love my cosplay.
Thinking about submitting is just that, dumbass. And after seeing this shit spewing thread I am REALLY not going to contribute to your shit page.

With the amount of drama in this thread, I don't think this kickstarter deserves any money...this is just as bad (even worse) as Liz Katz.

>>7034879
Details? Didn't think he'd be terrible to work with.

>>7037414
>Liz Katz
She's an SCG girl so go figure

>Details?
You only have to look at his Facebook page to see what a colossal dick he is. He thinks he's totally infallible and he thinks he "owns" any cosplayer he shoots. Not owns the photos, owns the person. He gets super butthurt if he shoots a cosplayer and then someone else shoots the same cosplayer. He thinks he is God's gift to photography when his photos are 90% fabricated in Photoshop.

>>7035090
ai-honey, you're the queen of the fuckos. I think the government should limit your internet access. You're not being taxed on your camwhore dollars after all.

>>7035331
>for a friend

>>7035090
>leg spreads
>boring

hmmm

>>7035004
>I know that 'sex sells' but I for one, don't want it as a major aspect to a hobby. I personally enjoy the hobby for its creativity and like-minded people.

THIS.
All day err day.

To you career attention whores out there know that you are personally making sure that a creative outlet that requires you to think outside the box and LEARN is being turned into a catwalk.

The rest of the world is a fucking catwalk. You have to look good at work, at the bar, at the grocery store, walking down the street, in your car, at the pool, ect.
Now everything has to be sexy this and sexy that. Take that outside. That is where it belongs.

This is the equivalent of taking a library full of useful and varied info and only lining the shelves with YA literature.

Wow. Just wow.

Anyone else find it amazing how she's trying to justify her being a camwhore? Like it's something totally normal and we should forget about it? Really jaw dropping.

>>7037735
I find it more amazing she's had nothing but a backlash but still decides she's more right than everyone else.

Who needs to make costumes to be famous, or know the source material, or do anything other than stand somewhere. Do they literally want to be praised just for being able to dress themselves in the morning?

Hikari shouldn't be in that calendar, she is an awful cosplayer and a really bad person

>>7029939
You tend to have higher quality cosplay when males pics are published.

>Guys in galleries have great costumes and builds.
>Girls have great tits.
>Gotta love them double standards yo'!!

>>7031869
>Complains about female objectification
>Will get ridiculously disproportionate amount of praise from a guy who puts in the same or more effort into a costume.
>"But yur lookin at muh bodah while ah spread full eagle and and slather mahself in A1 steak sawce and radishes!"

Enjoy your privileged and double standards.
>you make me sick

>>7038580
People only buy these things to jerk off onto. That's the truth. Cosplay prints and calendars don't get bought by people who want to hang them on their wall to proudly display their interests. They buy them when they want something to catch the semen and they're bored of using plain tissue.

Anybody who believes anything else is simply lying to themslves. I bet they think people read Playboy for the articles, too.

If people want to partake in that and don't mind being seen as nothing more than a cum dumping ground, fine. But don't pretend you're on some noble cause to unite the land. We don't need uniting and even if we did these people wouldn't be the ones to do it.

>>7038588
o_o... I'm building a collage of really good prints on my wall, male and female divided by eastern and western fandoms... I'll post when it's done

>>7038588

what about girls who buy prints of other girls?

>>7038601
>beanflickin.psd

>>7038601
>implying women can't be attracted to women
>implying women don't masturbate

>>7038600
You're the forever alone exception to the rule.

>>7038611
... left side has a bunch of Marvel and DC inspired stuff, and right side is... well you know

1/2

I’ve been two minds about this Kickstarter ever since it launched.

The negatives.
>The Mission Statement.

Is flawed. It doesn’t work with the product. ‘Cosplayers United’ doesn’t work as a tag line for a product that features only a small percentage of the range of cosplayer that exists. The product is for a very select group of cosplayer so in my mind the tag line doesn’t grab me and in many ways is misleading.

>The end product costs.

In a potential market that has already featured other cosplayer calendars it doesn’t measure up to the other prices/costs. £30GBP is quite a high price for a calendar. That alone doesn’t make it a viable product.

>The costs

While the project does outline the costs I find them to be unnecessary. This project could have been easily achieved on far less expenditure. In turn this would lead to a more viable product which people might be more willing to part with the money for.

>Restriction on the Theme

I do get the theme is ‘Sexy Cosplay Girls’ but with the models that have been selected they are not covering the wide range of what could be considered sexy. I for one love a lady to be wearing well made corsetry and to be reasonably covered so that her curves are shown but there is an air of mystery. I have a feeling that this kind of ‘sexy’ would not be covered and that most models will be wearing tight fitting or next to nothing.

>>7038633
2/2


>AI Honey/Spokesperson.

I think its great that she has conviction in the project she is part of but I feel that the way she presents herself is unprofessional and doesn’t set a good image for the product. Judging on how she has responded on here and to other critiques on Facebook she has been very antagonistic. It sparks up more hate which in turn has put people like myself off backing such a Kickstarter. Every creative project, not matter what it is, will have some negative feedback. How the people behind the project respond to the feedback is crucial just as much as the project itself.


On the other side there is a positive and that is that the girls involved get to be part of a project that they are very excited about. I know a few of them and I have seen how excited they are to be part of it. I am happy for them as it has showcased them and made people aware of them through SCG and Sneaky Zebra’s (they are joined them on the video aspect of the project) Facebook pages and websites .

While I am happy for those friends there isn’t enough positives to have me interested in backing such a project. Whether or not they succeed will be in the hands of all those who do decide to back the project.

>>7038584
Your post makes no sense. The top line works with what you have quoted but the rest doesn't.

sage for no contribution

>>7038636
Ai-Honey is the Phil Fish of cosplay.

>>7038636
Yeah, whilst ai-honey does seem to be a nice person to certain people, she does not help herself at all by replying to all the people giving her shit, and giving shit back to them to fuel their dislike of her. It's a little immature, especially at her age, she should've learnt by now.

>It's still at 4000 pounds
Is it bad that I'm happy about that fact?

>>7038636
I'd be happy too if it meant a free trip to another country

The fact that all of them are sexy women makes me wonder.
The fact that this project has already 4000$ in less than a week makes me sad.

Meh.

I'd donate if it meant one of them would be obligated to lay down next to me and stroke the back of my hair, in costume of course.

Should be made a perk of £400 or more

>>7038750
Hookers cost about £40 for an hour, you know.

>>7038744

it needs 30k so it wont be funded

>>7038750
Considering how funding has stalled, they might want to consider it.

>>7038761
I've got too much pride for a hooker, but I get crippling anxiety when gaining any sort of attention from a girl, so I figure that if they're dressed up I'll just associate them with the fandom rather than their gender.

Also figure if I turn away and let them stroke my hair that I won't flip out. idk, I guess I can email and see if they'd accept that.

>>7038761

only the shitty ones

most on Adultwork is £60 for 30 mins

>>7038696
>Ai-Honey is the Phil Fish of cosplay.

I laughed so hard I cried a little bit.

>>7038865
>doesnt explain leg spread pictures
Cmon now

wtf? Hikari is the most hated ''cosplayer'' in Spain. She just talks bullshit about everybody and her costumery sucks. Everything is photoshop of her boyfriend Hidrico. You only have to check her gallery to see how she sucks.
do you remember the accident with Kristen Hughey? I hope someone has a screen of that. Hikari acted like a whore with her.

>>7038865
If you're gonna organize an attention whore party that involves other people's money why can't you at least donate the profit you make on the calendars to charity?

Using other people's money to make calendas and then sell them to make a profit is bullshit.

If you want to make money off of cosplay invest your own money into making the calendars instead of begging for it on kickstarter.

>>7040011
Acted like a whore with Kristen Hughey? Go on...

>DawnArts Oct 21, 2012
Wow, Daily Deviation... How luck, Kristen.

Envy Hikardo, envy, not being you the one on the DD

>>7039362
>>7037700
Holy! Top 5 Waifu!

Dear anon I met today. You seemed nice but opening a conversation with "I'm that guy who was posting about panties and asking about the comparison to Topshop wage" is probably not a good conversation starter.

Next time maybe at least say hi and offer your name. Hi anyway!

>>7040741
You can literally apply that thinking to every kickstarter ever. 'Why don't you pay for it yourself?'. Because if we find not enough people care about the concept it will be a waste of time and money? Duh.

And beggars generally don't give a product in return anon. E-begging isn't allowed on kickstarter, that's for sites like go fund me or whatever.

We could probably donate proceeds of profits after the project but I don't see it being a lot tbh. I'd rather do an unrelated charity event.

>>7040887
>We could probably donate proceeds of profits after the project but I don't see it being a lot tbh. I'd rather do an unrelated charity event.

More like you'd rather not be arsed to go the extra mile and do something unselfish.

>I'd rather keep the profit no matter how small it is.
Ftfy.

I remember you posting in that Wild Places kickstarter thread awhile back. You were agreeing with Miyu when she criticized them and brought up the idea of doing a charity instead .....and now you're trying to copy Anna Fischer by doing exactly the same thing.

>>7040011
Guess who is participating? Hidrico! And now you know why Hikari is in.

>>7040887
Your project is a very thinly veiled ebegging for money for MCM Expo.

Wow Adella donated.

>>7033211
Could you name 12 UK cosplay girls who aren't fat and who are good looking? I'd really like to know.

>>7041495
Actually, let me revise that - can anyone name 17 female UK cosplayers who aren't fat and who are good looking?

>>7041514
Name? No but I could point them out to you.

>Flights - The majority of the cosplayers are coming from outside of the UK, and they are bringing a few costumes, extra luggage may be needed.
>Accommodation and food - We need to provide accommodation and food for all 17 cosplayers and the crew for a whole week.
>Transport - We need to get everyone from the airport to the hotel, and from the hotel to the locations where we are going to be doing the photo shoots.
>Location - We will need hire locations for the majority of the photo shoots, and that comes with a cost.
>Convention - We will need to provide tickets for MCM Expo for all the cosplayers and the crew.

'We all want a free holiday for maybe 4 hours of a project that's a fun side hobby at most.'

>>7040920
That's.. the opposite of what I said. Running an actual charity event would be much more work. Donating profits after would be next to no work (which would likely be fine).

Also I dunno why you'd think I'd be getting anything. It's not hooked up to my account.

I don't remember agreeing with Miyu posting as I don't remember her posting. I think Anna's kickstarter was a good idea, it just didn't end up being so cohesive with the thought put into cosplayers, groups and locations. I liked some of the photos, though.

Since I like Anna and I'm friends with some who went there's no way I'd criticise it that harshly.

>>7040960
>Your project is a very thinly veiled ebegging for money for MCM Expo
Expo sucks and costs me little to do myself. If I felt it that way I wouldn't bother being involved.

>>7041688
A single photoshoot would take a few hours. We're doing nine in four days, with lots of people each time. Not including the hours it takes cosplayers to get ready.

Guessing you've never tried to figure out the logistics if such things but it's safe to say it makes me apprehensive.

>>7029976
Yeah because there's no castles or nice historical locations in the US at all.

Sure, they may not be right on your doorstep, but there's a fuckton of nice locations which don't require you to fly half a dozen people across the ocean and ask others to pay for it.

In PA, Bryn Athyn has a beautiful cathedral, and there's a house in Philly that was actually brought over from Japan.

>>7042890
It's hard to do group photoshoots without everyone being in the same place, as anon.

>>7042885
Your photographer should figure out how to use the focus.

>>7042885
Does this refresh your memory?
http://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/cgl/thread/S6822934#p6829198

Your reply:
http://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/cgl/thread/S6822934#p6829223

Isn't Ai Honey the one that did that terrible Lilith cosplay and covered "Short Change Hero" terribly and then defended herself to the death about it, blaming the shitty performance on the drummer?

>>7029698
>>7029698
>>7029698
>http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/153516985/project-cosplayers-unite
>http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/153516985/project-cosplayers-unite
>http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/153516985/project-cosplayers-unite

Kickstarter has been known to be the next best scam tool. Ask /v/ about the 9 year old RPGmaker kickstarter.

>>7043226
Aw darn, for some reason it didn't upload the picture. Irrelevant but I feel like posting it.

>>7043130
Didn't realise that was Miyu, but if you read it you'll see I am disagreeing with her, not agreeing. People who equate kickstarters with charities miss the point, is what I said and that people spend their money on dumb shit all the time (we ARE cosplayers and lolitas after all).

Still no worries I guess I didn't quote links well there.

>>7043153
Hardly. I criticise stuff I do more than anyone else. Only thing that was the drummers fault was the tempo being too slow.

But fuck it we recorded it in a couple of hours so who cares.

>>7043463
>Didn't realise that was Miyu, but if you read it you'll see I am disagreeing with her, not agreeing.

Uh. You quoted her post and said "Preeettyy much this". How can you possibly deny that was an agreement? pic related

In my opinion she was right. Cosplayers should never ask other people to give them money to play dress-up.

>>7044034
here's Miyu's comment for reference:

>>7043463
>I said and that people spend their money on dumb shit all the time

agreed. people spending their money on you getting dressed up like a fictional character so you can get attention on the internet is really fucking dumb.

>>7044034
If you notice I quote two people. But really just /reading the whole thing and not just the first line/ is your biggest hint anon.

Anyway kickstarters are dumb for charity. Always donate to the source. To say '$27k could do this' is all well and good but it's not one person spending all that, it's a bunch of people spending smaller amounts on what they'd normally spend on superfluous things anyway.

And if we're going to make that argument, the majority spends small amounts on superfluous things. Making people feel bad for that is futile. What is spent on kickstarters would likely never go to charity anyway.

And you are all cosplayers/Lolitas so yes, lots of superfluous shit all around. But as it is, most things in life are.

bump bump

>>7044034
I agree. No cosplayer should ask others to fund their hobby. That is ridiculous.

Cosplayers choose to dress up and choose what to spend on their costumes. If they can't afford it then they shouldn't be doing it.

Then again, cosplayers these days seem to have become self entitled little shits who feel that the cosplay world owes them something. Does it bollocks! Work on your own costumes and be proud of what you have made. Seeing all these Kickstarters and other crowd funded cosplay projects really pisses me off. So far, their has only been one of those projects that I have felt that was any good.

So in a couple of months we will have some international grills to fugg? :DD