/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

oh man a sabo thread

I'm looking forward to the loli tea party

My husband and I have a table

Not after the hotel had bed bugs in my room.

Sabo, like most AZ conventions fucking suck ass. The guys running it have no fucking clue how to fucking run a con. I mean they are acting like Evangelion is the epitome of popularity right now when it isn't even a blip on the radar of the weebs in our state.

Plus who the fuck wants to drive all the way out to glendale. There are plenty of hotels and expo centers that aren't in the middle of fucking nowhere.

>>7005271
I happen to live in Glendale, just a few minutes from the hotel, so it's absolutely no problem for me.
As for Evangelion, It got a recent major resurgence in popularity due to 3.33, but I can understand where you're coming from.

>>7005056
What is your guys' table name/what are you selling?

Ah, Saboten was my first con a couple years ago. Working on a Meguca this year. Like everyone else. But 4 months later. Oh well.
Unfortunately, I only go to Connichiwa and Saboten every year. I realized the comic and fandom scene weren't my thing after a day at PCC.
Are there any other nice cons around? Or maybe a little farther? I was thinking of AX next year, if I can get the cash together.
I know there's like Taiyou and other tiny shit, but I'm pretty sure those are Homestuck drama orgies.

>>7005271
this

I don't know why anyone short of local teenaged weebs go to AZ cons, they all suck. Hop over to SoCal.

I wish I could go to this, ;w; I may try.

>>7005271
>glendale
>middle of nowhere
what

>>7009758
Not that anon from above, but it's not in the populated part of Glendale.

It's on the far side that's still like 20 minutes out from the part of it where people live.

The area isn't bad, but it's not centrally located for most of AZ and the shopping center nearby is on the pricier side.Or at least every store/restaurant I looked at was.

>>7005684
In AZ, there really isn't any.

Taiyou isn't awful, but it is pretty small. As for is Homestuck drama orgy, it usually seems to be a pretty chill con for everyone involved.
Though, I can't say I'm in the know as far as Homestuck drama goes.

Where are we meeting this time?

Going, excited for the lolita tea party. The people organizing it this year are very competent and know their shit, and I'm sure it'll be a good time. Also excited (for different reasons) for the trainwreck of a J-fash show. Haven't really looked at the other panels yet but I've got a full event pass so I'll figure it out as I go. I'd be down for a meetup.

>>7013749

>>7014937
That's horrendous.
I was considering entering, but I'm not sure anymore.

>>7014949
can't handle competition nerd?
#get dunked on

>>7014949
>That's horrendous.
Maybe not by "Arizona standards." Even this picture gives them too much credit. It makes me sad to live in Arizona, honestly.

>>7016980
because it doesn't have a J-Fashion scene? lame

>>7005271
all this mad is fucking delicious.
Let me guess, at Connichiwa you were mad because Cowboy Bebop is old too.

>>7017238
Different person, but it's sort of understandable why they'd be irritated by the way the cons are being run in AZ.

The guy who runs Sabo, Connichiwa, Kikori Con, and I think it's Sabaku in New Mexico seems to be stretching himself a little thin.

I mean, he just seems sort of distracted trying to start stay on top of all of this, and I think the cons are really beginning to suffer from it.

Plus, while there's nothing wrong with liking the old stuff, he clearly doesn't have a very good understanding of what is super popular right now.
It's more like he just wants to get the guests he wants as opposed to the ones people actually want to see at a con over here.

It's still cool, but it feels like his personal interests are taking precedent over the interests of the attendees.

>>7017255
Well I can't think of anything "super popular" now that isn't absolute basic pleb shit (Naruto) or things the guy didn't know about when he booked these guests months ago. It's understandable that he got the Eva crew since the third movie will be starting to show here in the US... yesterday?
Sabo and Connichiwa are both anime/japanese culture conventions. The people they choose to get are to attract newcomers (who have money, aka older people) to go to the convention. All the teens and tweens are going to be at the convention anyway and they'll be having a blast just fucking around in gray paint, so why waste more time pleasing them instead of attracting more people?
Kikori seems less like his interests and more like taking cheap not-busy VAs who are at least somebody. I don't have a clue about who was at Sabaku or if anyone actually went to it

Pardon my language, but what fuckhead thought scheduling panels about the same shit at the same time was a good idea? The sabo programming will be straight up cannibalizing itself.

Pardon my language, but what fuckhead thought scheduling panels about the same shit at the same time was a good idea? The sabo programming will be straight up cannibalizing itself.

>>7020068
The people running the programming at Sabo don't have a clue what they are doing.
If it's the same guy as last year, he's an okay dude, but he's just in waaaaay over his head.

But, with the director being who he is, he doesn't seem to think that there's a problem. So, Sabo will kinda just get a little worse each year without it really being noticed my the majority.

Just like the rest of Arizona's cons.

>>7020068
maybe they should just lose weight instead

I have a panel, so I will be there, but after seeing the line up of other panels, I was shocked and disappointed that really stupid things got in the line up when better panels, which I know some friends of mine submitted, got pushed by the wayside

>>7017314
naruto has been out and done for like 3-4 years where have you been

>>7021098
It's true I stopped submitting panels ages ago because zombie survival 101-505 and the same fucking panels like that at every con keep getting priority

like a couple years ago i tried submitting a para para dance tutorial panel, and it was beat out by steve nunez's panel where he ridicules it because he's a ~*~guest~*~

>>7017314
i think you're just out of the loop there anon. attack on titan is popular as all hell and it's been airing since april.

on the subject of the rebuild movies, if that was really the case they would have gotten brianna palenicia too, because rei was the only major character who didn't reprise her role from eoe to rebuild. also wouldn't they use art from the third movie, or even 2.22 or 1.11 instead of the original series?

In the J-fashion show, kinda looking forward to it. Kinda..eh.
And going to check out AYS , only to support my friend in it. Other than that, I'm good..

>>7014937
You know I'm beginning to feel that the same designers do all the Az con shows right? I've only been in one other fashion show as a model..but I keep seeing the same designers, even beforehand

>>7023411
There are only like 4 or 5 actual designers that attend the shows. Sometimes you'll see some people doing a single outfit, and I think one year at PCC there was a group from a school, but otherwise it's usually the same few designers.

>>7023414
a whole lot of Lolita is what I see

>>7023416
Yeah. There's like two or three that basically just do some kinda sub par lolita inspired stuff.

It's kind of a mess. They keep trying to do stuff to bring in new people to participate, but it never seems to work. It's just stuff like contests or whatever, so it's not super surprising that it's not enough.

>>7022822
So Attack on Titan started airing in April and the main guests were confirmed in February. But I guess it is all their fault for not taking a blind guess months and months ago to make an Attack on Ti-con

>>7023428
I think maybe they were trying to give an example of what is big right now. There's been other stuff too that's been exploding on the night. I know Dangan Ronpa seemed to be gaining some decent popularity there, though admittedly with a somewhat younger audience.

The point being, is that even with the Rebuild movies, Eva isn't super popular. And, like the other anon mentioned, it's pretty clear they aren't doing Eva stuff with the new stuff in mind.

>>7023432
I know what they were doing. Titan is the series I had in mind when I posted "things the guy didn't know about"
So, would you say Attack on Titan is more popular than Eva?

>>7023434
Currently? Yeah, probably.
Overall, Eva probably had a bigger impact on anime as a whole. But, in recent years and even with the new movies, it seems to be less relevant.

cgl's,help me decide, do or don't with the jfashion show?

I have a classic MM coord but i hear the panel is gonna be a trainwreck

>>7024631

The panel is not associated with the show at all, the show itself is really fun though, so I would do it. I'll be doing dolly kei, the organizer is a really great person but I think upthread someone mentioned that the panels were all over the place

>>7023407
Didn't you say in the maid cafe thread that AYS was shit though?

>>7024724
Not the same anon actually, I was told Sabo cafes were more organized, so I'll be checking it out. Poor other anon might have had a rather bad experience though

>>7024829

I don't want to be that guy but your email is saved in the email field so we know what you post

>>7024829

>>7024829
Alright missjupitermoon@hotmail.com

>>7024829
lol
>>7023341
>>7023350

congratulations on your 'it's my first day' award!

best laugh I've had all day so far

>>7024829
AYS is always shit, no matter what con.
Saboten cosplay cafes are okay.

Speaking of cosplay cafes? Is there any drama going on with the team kissu? They haven't done a cafe for a year.

>>7025231
from what I know its only Kara doing the café this year. Lacey and Shelia are not part of Kissu anymore...I don't think their is a Kissu anymore honestly.

So I skimmed the thread and there doesn't seem to be any talk about when everyone is going.
If you guys wouldn't mind posting then we could get a grasp on when we should meetup

>>7028366
Well, the last meetup was pretty pathetic. We didn't have a meetup for Taiyou or PCC either, so.

>>7028567
Sabo meets are the last thing we AZ folk have.
Plus there are no Taiyou meetups because no one wants people to know they actually went to taiyou con.

>>7028578
Taiyou is like stupid small still, but it has some promise at least. Assuming they can get smart and get out of that awful hotel.

I prefer it to Sabo at least. PCC has it sort of beat despite me not liking it a whole lot just due to size.

And, I think no one in AZ really cares enough to arrange a meetup anyway.

>>7028591
Con-nichiwa moved from a hotel to a convention center this year, iirc, so maybe Taiyou can follow in it's footsteps.
Taiyou is far better than con-nichiwa anyhow.
And I like all three of those better than PCC, tbh. There's nothing at PCC that interests me anymore, and nearly everyone I knew this year had left for Fanime.

>>7028607
Well, the people who run Taiyou are different from the people who run Con-Ni, Sabo, Kikori, and Sabaku.

So, assuming Taiyou can manage to find someplace else, I'm sure they will. It'd help a lot.

I guess I'm just used to hearing alot of shit from behind the scenes that makes me dislike Sabo and the related cons a bit more. PCC, while I'm not a fan, was apparently really good this last year, so I can't really say.

>>7028607
>taiyou far better than con-nichiwa

ahhahah. good to see humor in these threads.

>>7028591
Pixel has arranged meetups for almost every con in the past year or so. Whether or not she cares about them or if people show up is a whole different story

>>7028616
Wait, I have?
I ran the one last year for Saboten, and that was it.

Well,
I will go if work doesn't come first.

Thinking about entering the JFASHION show as decora.

Ill be going.

>>7028619
I guess it was some other trip then.

>>7028616
It's really not saying much. Con-Nichiwa is like one of the worst cons ever. I really don't see what there is redeeming about it besides it maybe being really not stressful.

I mean, there was that one year that basically half the panelists didn't even show. It's bad.

>>7028641
connich and sabo always have panelist problems.
really the cons would be good if they just reworked the people who handle the internal stuff.

>>7028641
>>7028651
>Panelist problems
Not to defend them, but wouldn't that be a fault of the attendees that claim the panels, and not the staff? Unless they accept repeat offenders.

>>7028661
You'd think that right? That it's just that we have shit panelists, but it's not that.

After going to cons in this state for like 5 or 6 years now, a lot of the problems are with the staff.
Hell, the guy who does panels for Sabo now clearly has no idea what he's doing.

And, yeah, they do allow repeat offenders, as well as basically running the same panels at every con.

>>7028661
Good question! This may or may not be a surprise, but a majority of the people who make up the convention staff are all panelists. They make sure all of their panels and their friends' panels get chosen first and that they get the best slots, then they choose random "filler" programming that they couldn't care less about.

>>7028671
>>7028678
I wouldn't really know, since I really don't attend panels, pretty much ever. I did notice a lot of the same panels at practically every convention run by the team, though.
That's interesting to know, though. Thanks.

>>7028685
Some of them are popular or can be updated, so they get run again. But, there are a lot that are just repeats of the same stuff over and over.

Sooo... no meet up then? I've never been to Sabo or I'd suggest a time/spot, but I'd really love to make some new seagull buddies.

>>7028712
Well, if there is interest, and no one else is willing to, I'll arrange it, though as seen from last year, I'm not any good at it.
I'd probably choose a location inside the hotel this time, though.

Well, if there is interest for one, and no one else is willing to, I'll arrange it. Though, as seen from last year, I'm not any good at it.
I'd probably choose a location inside the hotel this time, though.

>>7028723
Meant to quote >>7028712
I need to get some sleep tonight.

>>7028712
>>7028723
I'll go ahead and add in my 2 cents.
I will be there all day Sunday and am willing to meet at the hotel, but it is pretty crowded every day but monday.

>>7028723
>>7028740
I'll be there all weekend and I don't think I have any plans for Sunday. None of the panels that day look interesting either so it'd be great to tool around with you guys for a bit. Not sure what I'll be wearing Sunday but I'll figure it out if we're gonna meet up.

>>7028740
>>7028757
So Sunday it is, then, for now. Do you guys have any preferred time of day? I'm still waiting for the guest panels to be announced, but I should be good to find someone to stand-in for me at any point during the day.

>>7028624
I hope you bring that cosplay. I saw you at PCC and I still regret not getting your picture.

>>7028764
My preferred time would be before 4. But since I'm only going for the guests I'll have to wait until their schedules are up to give a more accurate timeframe

As for location, I think a pretty good place would be the Outdoor Courtyard, unless you guys think of somewhere that would be better. It's a very easy to find location, generally not (from what I remember, and when I hung out there) constantly filled with people, and had shade and misters, so it's not too hot.

>>7028779
Okay, I'll keep that in mind.
And yeah, so I guess we've just got to wait and see. The only guests I'm really interested in are Yuko Miyamura and Frances Delgado, though.

I thought the spot we met last time was fine

>>7030738
If you guys would think so, then that'd be fine.

>>7030809
Neverbeenanon again, where did you meet last time?

>>7030834
Have you been to westgate before? we met here by the water fountains

>>7030834
We met up around the fountains in a shopping district within a short walking distance of the hotel, seen in the image >>7030834.