/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I have a bit

oh metas 60s-style airline pieces

how I wish I had reserved you when I had the chance

>>6991332
I think it could have been so beautiful if she went out of her way to make it more outrageous. It's too bland as it is, if she was going for looking like a Czarina.

Does anyone have a better picture of her in this outfit?

I thought this WW2 inspired look was really charming (as I'd wanted to do something similar).

>>6991363
Looks like she was inspired by the idea of the grand duchesses dresses

>>6991332
>>6991335
>>6991387
>>6991392
These are great.

historical fashion is superior to lolita in all ways

>>6991449
but what about super kawaii sweets prints

dont' like her hair but hnngh chemise

>>6991449
Eh, historical fashion for regular folk was usually meh.

>>6991321
Love this girl!

>>6991296
is this girl chubby or is it just the dress? it looks really cute for some reason.

What's the difference between classic Lolita and... historical?

>>6991509
I think the dress (and hair) is just massively unflattering.

>>6991521
In my opinion, the difference is when it goes from a coord pulling from multiple frames of reference (a bit of Victorian, a bit of 50's retro, a bit of whatever else), to pulling from just one era.

>>6991521
Classic lolita can have historical influences, but it doesn't have to have them... and usually the historical influence is limited to things like "oh, this dress has a white underskirt with a 'robe' style overdress, kinda like an 18th century dress!" whereas "Historical" outfits (Whether it's just the dress like >>6991431
or the whole shebang like >>6991324) are more deliberately modeled after historical fashion.

hate how she wore it and it's too small for her, but this dress was my favorite from the candy violet "18th century" series

>All these beautiful OP dresses that my boobs will never fit into

What does cgl think about mixing eras? Or for example wearing a hairstyle that's clearly from one era with a dress that isn't?

>>6991392
Does anyone have more late 20's-early 50's inspired co-ords? I forever seek inspiration to combine my two fashion styles.

>>6991363
>>6991324
words cannot express my love
Sage for not contribution

>>6991592
I don't mind it. It's what separates lolita from straight up historical costume, plus the addition of more modern cuts or details.

>>6991594
Seconding this, they're my favorites.

>>6991589
It's okay, my boobs are way under the measurements.

Not to mention my broad shoulders wouldn't be able to fit...

>>6991589
You can get the westminister series JSK

>>6991606
I just don't want to end up looking like this. "40's sailor lolita"

>>6991615
Nope.

Got the underbust, and the chest window is too short for your boobs to actually go through, it actually cradles the bottom inch or two of mine and I have a very short torso with B cups. I don't know if my boobs just aren't high enough to go through properly or if it's supposed to be that way, but it feels like a fairly snug fit.

The fit on the bodice is pretty meh, to be honest. There's no structure in the waistband/boobcradle, no boning or even interfacing that I can feel, so the fabric sort of bags off of the lining under your boobs, and the corseting down't do much to help that. The back nape also seems to have a tendency to gape because the shoulderstraps wiggle inward. It's kind of disappointing, honestly. Other than that it's fine, but..

Offtopic for this thread, but I thought I'd share.

>>6991618
(I'm not sure which part of my comment you're replying to, but) yeah, there's nothing 40's about that at all. It's an 'okay' coord otherwise.

>>6991647
Oh... damn

I really thought it would be awesome for me

>>6991615

As much as I love IW, I'm not a big fan of the stained glass craze, so the print isn't doing much for me. I just notice it's always OP dresses I have a hard time fitting the bust for, the waist is never an issue. My chest measurement literally sits on the the usual max, and while I technically fit, they'd never be comfortable. JetJ stuff is torture for me to browse :c

Sage for irrelevant rant, post more beautiful historic fashion please~

>>6991666
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, anon :(

Having a hard time finding coords I'd call fully 'historical' in my folder...

>>6991594
Twenties is kind of hard to emulate in lolita, unless you go for a robe de style kind of look, though. I mean, skirts didn't really poof up until the New Look, which is why 50s lolita is much more common.

>>6991756
True. I could see it working for aristocrat, though? Maybe something like pic related, or VM's mermaid skirts.

>>6991772
Not the anon you're replying to, but I think that dropped waist dresses would work pretty well with a 1920s inspired outfit, even if those dresses were likely inspired from late Edwardian girl's dresses. I typically see VM/Beth (I wish that brand was still around) and a few other classic brands make those.

>>6991422
>dem boots
Whaaaat

>>6991497
This, pretty much
When people say historical fashion people often assume it's all the beautiful elegant clothing worn by aristocracy and royal family and forget that anyone not pertaining to one of those groups used to wear ugly shit.

>>6991906
Well duh, it's fashion. Fashion trends are always set by the most influential and generally wealthy. And it's not like poor people wore stuff of a complete different style, they still tried to mimic what was in, it was just usually much plainer and more practical.

>>6991906
Nah, the boring shit is still superior too.

>>6992068
Not really. I'd rather wear something from Meta than a drab-ass brown dress from 1910

Victorian and rococo styles might be the most common historical kind of fashions present in lolita. I'm curious if there is any lolita coordinates that use Elizabethian era (about 1550 to 1600) references or if it would be an accepted in the lolita fashion if custom made. Nothing too exaggerated, though.

>>6992047
>Fashion trends are always set by the most influential and generally wealthy.
Well, thank god for alternative fashion, huh?

>>6992592
I really really want to make something based off of Elizabethan fashions. I've not been able to think of anything I like enough to go through with drafting the pattern for and buying the fabric for. I just love the details in the sleeves too much.

>>6991332
This has so much potential to be amazing.

>>6991804
This post was awesome. Anyone have the link to it? It is relevant to this thread since the poster tried to make a lolita outfit for each decade.

>>6992068

3/10 not a very good attempt at trolling.

>>6993524
I think it should be on egl's theme tag for the historical lolita month? I don't remember what month it was.

>>6993541
http://egl.livejournal.com/18679544.html

but livejournal is being shittacular, so

>>6992068
>horseshit-smeared burlap smock that gets washed once a year
>superior to lolita
lol

>>6993548
Thank youuuuuu

>>6991772
What kind of petti would one wear with a skirt like that?

>>6993679
A full-length one..?

>>6992592
Baby had one really elaborate dress that had a standing collar. I think JetJ also uses some in their sleeve detailing.

Omg i just pray that one day i'll be able to rebuild my warderobe to this lolita/historical style.