/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

...blog?

Or is this Assley?

>>6918263
i'm confused where the actual constructive criticism is? what was actually said to her about it, since both of these comments are from her and not whoever said something to her.

>>6918278
Her Tumblr is Quinn of Diamonds
>>6918280
This is the constructive criticism she got for that god awful dress. I think it is rather nice for her to start getting butt hurt.

Dear God, that may well be the ugliest dress I've ever seen. Even that hot air balloon print is hideous.
>Black or pink would have clashed with the print
So she picks salmon and sea foam green!? Yep, those look great together.

>>6918283
I generally lurk and I'm not a lolita, but if I were to start with something like that, or even design my own dress, I wouldn't really get offended by the message. She ended with more compliments than criticism, and she wasn't being *too* mean.

She should seriously take it with a grain of salt. I agree with construction looking decent, but I definitely feel she could have chosen better colors.

>>6918283

wow, yeah talk about being butthurt about someone who was just trying to help (even though, a solid color still wouldn't have saved that shit, she should have stuck with the balloon print throughout the entire dress and removed that god awful ruffle details on the sleeves/skirt/bodice). Would have given it kind of an otome feel even.

Don't you love it when noobies get offended by constructive criticism and expect nothing but asspats and compliments for their ~hard work~?

>>6918283
tumblr not found?

>>6918300
quinn-of-diamonds

>>6918283
Wow, that crit isn't even mean. They even complimented the girl's sewing skills twice (and I agree the construction does look very good for a first attempt). I understand it's hard to take any sort of criticism when you worked hard making something, but it's her first dress. The first time is always the hardest, and most people have to make several attempts before they get it right and make something they're truly proud of wearing. It's called practice. I'd rather hear some honest crit about my first project so I could improve, than make a whole wardrobe of ugly dresses and suddenly realize they all looked like shit.

dress worn

>>6918332
Why didn't she just use a powder blue or something? It would've looked "meh" instead of "eurgh"

>>6918332
Did she put herself there? So many times it seems like the worst dressed will take front and center in group pics

>>6918343
Yes. She was front and center in the large group shots too. To be fair the dress was well-made... just hideous.

>>6918332
why
why why
why
obviously she looks different from all of the other girls, why would she pick such garish and clashing colours???
and then those tights jfc
he should be thankful for some crit

>>6918343
Someone should name that phenomenon. The Ita Sun, perhaps? "The law that all decent community members will revolve around a fixed ita while in front of a camera."

What a wreck, dat lumpy looking bodies + linebacker shoulder puffs

>>6918332
Dear lord, her dress looks like an ugly duckling compared to the others in that comm. It's absolutely inferior.

I really hope she improves on her dressmaking skills. She needs to understand that criticism will help you improve.

>>6918332
I love the way she pops out compared to the rest of the girls in the picture

>>6918354
I like the way this sounds "The Ita Sun Law"

You know it does look like it was constructed well.
How tragic that having talent isn't an indicator of having good taste.

Clown suit.

This is why I am afraid to make my own things using more then just one color.

>>6918354
I think this needs to be a part of common Lolita terms. Like OP and JSK, every Lolita should know "TISL" too

>>6918374
This. I mean, it's a dress for a CUTE clown, but it's still a clown dress.

Oh look more Chicago drama.

Has anyone thought that maybe the hate that she got is not related to ANY of the constructive criticism? Like someone sent her a message from a Facebook sock puppet or anonymously that said she was a fat ugly ita bitch and should kill herself? Because in OP's picture, the ask came AFTER the "I just got my first hate message."

Yeah, the dress is cringe-worthy. She was a nice girl and didn't seem straight up STUPID so I feel like we're missing some key information.

Why did she wear that to the meet up when I see that she had a perfectly good Infanta dress she could have worn...

>>6918384
Some people do publish asks after they've written a whiny text post about them, usually looking for sympathy from their followers.

Either way, she couldn't even say thank you to the person who complimented her sewing so kindly, so it's no surprise that people are taking her as being butthurt over that message.

>>6918384
either that, or she answered the ask after writing the rant

>>6918384
Not Chicago drama. She's from Millwaukee.
Most of the "Chicago drama" is from itas and bitches from the Milwaukee comm tbh.

>>6918391
She does intimate that the "hate message" was anonymous, though, and the ask she published isn't. She's definitely making excuses in response to the published ask (and that dress is eye-burning), but she might not be overreacting.

>>6918396
Milwaukee comm is 100 percent drama free. Don't even start.

>>6918400
Both. She says here she received multiple tumblr messages but also she seems to be overreacting. http://decipheringlolita.wordpress.com/2013/06/17/my-first-experience-with-the-dark-side-of-lolita/

>>6918332
Literally spent 5 minutes just staring at this in shock and disbelief. The dress was bad enough, but combined with the attitude and her over all... "package"... yeesh.

>>6918407
You know that isn't true.

After looking at her blog posts, butthurt snowflake.

>>I ended up with the Sweet Lolitas, though I really look more citrus…maybe I invented a new style. :)

>>I made the sleeves fully detachable, so this is not a OP, not a JSK, but both.

>>In the whole of three messages, they gave only the compliment that I seem like a good seamstress, but the rest was all insulting the dress.

>>When it comes down to it, there are good ways to give a person feedback and there are bad ways to give a person feedback. And maybe the dress was not the pinnacle of pretty princess elegance, but elegance is also about the person, and I know that were I giving a person feedback on something like that, I would have more elegance in how I did so.

Then she talks about how she was going to make more but now she doesn't want to. If she's that sensitive that little bit counts as "dark side of Lolita" and was enough to make her bawwquit, she's probably better off not doing Lolita.

>>6918416
It is. Keep your drama to yourself, we don't want it.

>>6918378
Seconding this

It literally looks like a circus tent.

>>6918420
Then stop exporting your itas and bitches to our meets.

>>6918419
This. I met her at the megameet and she seemed nice enough, but if she really thinks a couple semi-constructive but not asspat comments are "bullying" than she should just stop now.

I think the only way matching those colors from the print could have worked is with a narrow, irregular stripe pattern. But that color blocking would have looked awful with almost any color scheme.

>>6918419
>though I really look more like a circus…maybe I invented a new style. :)
fix'd

>>6918396
Milwaukee lolita here, I don't even know this chick's name and the mega meet was the first time I have met her in my life. You are full of shit.

There has never been any drama in the Milwaukee community over the last three years but thanks for playing.

hoi polloi it could be pretty nice if

>>6918428
don't have any bitches, and like >>6918439 said, I've never seen or heard of her until now. Did she say she lived in Milwaukee?

>>6918444
This looks like it could be pretty neat. Any chance we can get a better picture?

She was worried about clashing colors but used that green, orange and blue?

The print looks like a bed sheet to begin with. Maybe if the air balloons were smaller it'd look better, but her dress lacks details and looks more like a color block, despite its construction being decent.

>>6918332
>the way she sticks out
this physically hurts to look at

>>6918463
yeah I just used my ds cause I had it on hand, no scanner but my phone is better I'll go grab it. Seriously though I scribbled tet in 2 minutes , ffs

This chick has terribad taste

>>6918332
How does one stand there, in that and think 'hmm yeah i'm totally just like all these other chicks'.

>>6918452
She said she was new and this was her first meetup.

I'm not naming names because it's a rule in Chicago comm but you have a couple people, both of them were at the meet, who've been on BTB/cgl for drama. Every comm does, don't act like you're so special.

>>6918495
Weird, why would you go to the megameet as your first meet?

Also, we're both here and both posting in this thread. Going to cgl/btb doesn't mean that there's local drama in our comm. Any drama we do have is - surpirse! - due to Chicago. Keep trying.

>>6918501
So what is so toxic about Chicago that it keeps bringing drama? Is it certain people, or just that it's a bigger group?

I feel bad for this circus dress girl. It really was well made, but she just doesn't have the aesthetic down yet.

>>6918332
There's so much other fug in that picture that it's not even that exceptional tbh.

>>6918509
I have no fucking idea

>>6918332
>>6918263
The dress looks like something you'd see a female clown wear.

>>6918515
She might have created a new subgroup of lolita called Clown Lolita. AP should take notice and create a clown print for their next dress release.

Keep trying lolitas. If it takes off, she'll be swimming in money while you'll keep complaining.

>>6918508
The only bad looking thing in that picture is the orange and green one. The rest of the girls are very well coordinated.

>>6918409
Welp, I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt.

>>6918263
Forget the colors, what is up with that hemline? Girl needs to invest in a tailor's curve.

>>6918508
Like what? The rest of them are fine.

>>6918378
>This is why I am afraid to make my own things using more then just one color.

Learn color theory.

>>6918528
AP did circus lolita better

>>6918565
But the girl on the right has horrid glasses, and the girl on the left is like gyaru makeup meets lolita dress...

With regards to the OP dress, it's just the colour choice I see as the problem. On seeing the dress worn, I kinda think there needs to be something on the neckline, maybe separate accessories or some attached lace/ruffle. It's not so much the physical aspect of making a lolita dress that's hard, it's getting the colours and patterns right.

>>6918263
OP, I'm the one that got her all butthurt
I send her an ask saying her dress looked like a clown's dress
>apologies to clowns everywhere btw

That gored skirt and ruffle and everything makes such a beautiful classic silhouette. If she did this in like dusty pink with ivory ruffles or something she could've had everyone swooning. As it is it looks like kid's pyjamas.

Those colours look so loud together and the balloon print is terrible. It makes me sad because she basically has so much wasted potential.

>>6918387
dem arms

I don't know, I think that on a decent dress and with the right detailing, like >>6918490 that print would have looked quite cute and perhaps a bit unique compared to the usually animals, sweets, bows and flowers that you usually get in Lolita.

I dunno. I kind alike it. It's very distinct and different. It follows all the proper lolita guidelines, and the colors are kinda breath of fresh air from the sea of blacks and pinks and sax (not that there is anything wrong with those colors).

>>6918490
Much better

Color blocking looks too contemporary for lolita, if she'd just picked one fabric...

>>6918665
>>It follows all the proper lolita guidelines
Except that "quality" is one of the guidelines, along with "elegance".

>>6918665
Are you kidding? The first thing I thought when I saw that thing was "Oh god, poor girl's gonna be on cgl." It's terrible.

>>6918688
BtB too

>>6918682

Well, I'm not sure that's the case, she just has shit taste in colours, if it was saxpink, whiteblack,redwhite,navywhite,redblack with a differnt sihlouhette and no print, it could work

>>6918682
Agreed. It's not the colors specifically, it's how they were used. Maybe pinstripes whit the balloons around the bottom? And white ruffles/details?

>>6918565
I was actually looking at the girl towards the left in the unflattering MP salopette but the circus is so bad and different we're too distracted to see everything else in the picture

>>6918682
Color blocking can work, depending on how it's done. Angelic Pretty have released a few dresses that have that kind of look, but they don't use such clashing and bright colors.

>>6918738
Also Marionette Girl, because I love this dress,

>>6918729
Effects of TISL!

>>6918332

>>6918900

Someone has all the beaches of California in their vagina.

>>6918738
>>6918746
Those work because they look is softened with non-clashing trim, and the blocks are done more like wide vertical stripes.

>>6918932
Exactly, circus girl needs to take some notes

>>6918900
these are my favourite posts

Tried changing some of the colors, I guess this is the closest I could make it wearable.

>>6918995
I really like this color and balloon pattern. For a kids' room. That's a compliment, though.

So how much time until she's linked to this thread and gets even more butthurt?

>>6919014
doubt someone will since she disabled the anonymous on her ask box

>>6918995
That looks a lot better already!

>>6918263

It looks like a colorbind homesuck made that dress. Jesus.

>>6918384

>Well, it seems my dress was the catalyst for my first negative experience within the Lolita community. I received three messages on Tumblr, the first anonymous, then I turned off the option to be anonymous, the second and third from the same individual. My dress was called clownish, garish, childish, I was told it was not elegant, and that I “missed the mark.” They did not like the colors I chose, nor the hot air balloon print that I used as my inspiration for the dress. In the whole of three messages, they gave only the compliment that I seem like a good seamstress, but the rest was all insulting the dress.

>I ended up blocking the person from my tumblr, mainly because I felt myself about to retaliate and get mad at them, and I did not want to stoop to that. My friends all say to ignore it, that the person was just being a troll, but it does not change the fact that it hurt. The dress was supposed to be bright and fun and summer feeling. It was my first ever attempt at making a Lolita dress, and pretty much my first real attempt at dressing Lolita (as the first time was done with what I had available), and I was just excited for how the dress turned out and now it is all a little spoiled. I was nervous enough to begin with, and now I don’t know if I will attempt making another Lolita dress anytime soon. I had even been trying to design a fabric print last night, but now, I think I am going to shelf that project.

>When it comes down to it, there are good ways to give a person feedback and there are bad ways to give a person feedback. And maybe the dress was not the pinnacle of pretty princess elegance, but elegance is also about the person, and I know that were I giving a person feedback on something like that, I would have more elegance in how I did so.

>Oreo cookie feedback means sandwiching a bad between two goods, not putting one speck of good in a pile of bad.

http://decipheringlolita.wordpress.com/

To be honest, the construction looks really good and yes, she failed on making a pretty dress by using clashing colors that are never seen in brand. But at least she got some criticism right away and perhaps ask for feedback on color ways before trying her next dress. Hopefully she takes this as a learning experience so her next coord is much better! Also, OP how did you find this? Lurking on the lolita tag on Tumblr?

>>6918995
Yeah it was definitely the orange. I don't think anything with orange ends up looking good unless you're going for the neon colors or tigers.

>>6919117
You do realize the whole point of the thread is that she got butthurt and raged by the mildest constrictive feedback ever? Why do you think she will learn and ask for more feedback? And obviously OP found it on tumblr....

>summer

>>6918995
If only we can get rid of those sleeves.

>>6918995
That looks a hundred times better.

>>6919182
>unsnap them lol

>>6919117
She said on her blog she's not going to make Lolita anymore.

>>6918900
>boobloaf
For some reason whenever I hear this term tossed around, I think of a very sad lolita that wishes she had a pair of nice round titties to pop out of their brand dresses too...

Seriously, the bodice is probably the most unnoticeable aspect about the coordinates and yet you only find yourself staring at their titties? Pervy girls.

>>6919220
When the bodice isn't large enough to accommodate your bust, it causes an obvious tightening and makes the skirt rise up. Also, it creates the illusion of one megaboob instead of two titties. No one has a problem with lolitas with big boobs, we just want them to wear dresses that fit their glorious tatas.

Lolita is about the details, and that's one of the details which is really obvious. But yeah, we're pervs.

>>6919228
Well call me crazy but most of the girls with the word "boobloaf" written over them don't have obvious tightening wrinkles, the skirts aren't risen, and they certainly look like they have two boobs and not one.
Not denying it doesn't happen, but if they're going to use that term at least make a good example of it.

>>6919236
And just adding on that Sugary Hearts isn't a good one to critique for that reason because it already is pictured with wrinkles on the bodice. That's just how the dress is.

>>6919236
>>6919228
>>6919220
What does boobloaf look like exactly? Does anyone have a clear picture of this phenomena because I'm paranoid I might have it in some dresses

>>6919220
I mostly only hear boobloaf complaints from big-chested girls, so I guess it varies? Maybe the ones with less boob don't mind it because it makes what they have more obvious, I don't know.

>>6918332
Which one of these things is not like the others~

>>6919243
>What does boobloaf look like exactly?
If you have big boobs you have boobloaf.
That's the only information I have for this bullshit term.

>>6919243
>>6919260
Because of the way Lolita dresses are cut, most boobs aren't defined anyway. What I consider boobloaf is when boobs don't fit inside the dress and get pressed out, so it looks like there's a loaf of bread in there- there's a few examples here fuuka.warosu.org/cgl/thread/6422219

>>6919239
Yeah, ruching actually shows the divide between breasts, so I don't really agree that it's boobloaf.

>>6919274
Shit I've been thinking boobloaf is like monoboob

>>6919243
let me tell you the story of my people.

lolita bodices are cut with a default cup size, which is around a B cup. This allows for about 2 inches difference between the bust and the underbust of the bodice (not account wearing ease).

Anything with a bigger difference than what the bodice is cut for is going to either make the definition between two breasts disappear in the middle (creating one long lump in the bodice between boob) or it's going to pull the breasts inward and create a mass towards the middle of the chest, once again losing any definition between breasts.

So when you lose that obvious 'oh two boobs' it's going to be a 'boobloaf'. However, this is a lot more common than most people point out, because when it IS pointed out it is usually because you can see the seams (normally on a princess seamed bodice) pulling tightly across the chest.

I don't think it looks bad in most cases (since it happens so often) and can easily be covered up with layering up top.

It DOES look bad especially in the second example, where the boobs have been pulled in and squeezed together in the center of the chest, creating a megaboob. I personally will always have a boobloaf. however I minimize it by wearing shapewear or minimizers to seperate and distribute the breast tissue toward the sides of my rib cage to keep them away from the middle of my chest.

Hopefully you understand better now?

>>6919213
Praise Jesus.

>>6918283
Oh hey that was me.

>>6918284
I meant nix the shitty balloon print and have all the dress be one colour.

>>6919430
hey anon, sorry to hear she blocked you for being the nicest critic out there.

This is kind of me right now, OP.
Someone called my coords 'mediocre' and it seems that they were being completely honest and simply observational. I'm not quite sure how to react.

It kind of hurts even more when you know that people aren't saying such things to spite you, if you get me.

Any other megameet pictures or drama?

>>6919770
"The solo photos aren’t great, but the one of us together is cute. It’s surprising how well our dresses did go together. "
Yeah, because your bitchface is showing.
Never fail to amaze me.
Please say someone else in the midwest is tired of this chick's antics.
http://thefauxlita.tumblr.com/

>>6919770
some mod drama that made people uncomfortable

>>6919770
There wasn't any drama. The day was very pleasant, actually.

>>6919751
Don't let it get to you. You don't NEED to have impressive amazing coords. Just enjoy dressing in the fashion. This is sort of the reason why I don't post to places like d_l and keep my outfits on my own tumblr. I wear Lolita for my own enjoyment, not to impress and wow other Lolitas.

Sometimes I wonder if when comments come up like that, if the commenter is someone who dresses to impress others and automatically assumes the same of other people? IDK.

>>6919751
if you obviously know the guidelines (like your not a newfag) and you didn't ask for constructive criticism, then that comment wasn't really called for. However, if this comment came as a complete surprise to you... as in, you thought you were hot shit, and now you're not sure... then that's where you need to decide for yourself if you want to try and get better or if you're happy where you are (obviously you would need more than just one person's opinion on this if you are now insecure and want to improve)

I have a lot of hit or miss stuff. But I 100% know that and I don't post outside of a really small tumblr (less than 50 followers) and a private list on my facebook (only close friends I actually know in IRL and consider friends can see it, so like 10 people on my friend's list).

>>6919751
Don't let it bother you. It's a simple critic. We're all so used to some of our friends and family saying, "OH MY GOSH YOU LOOK SO CUTE!!!" in whatever you're wearing because they want to be polite or they genuinely like your outfit. It's a bit easier to be honest with complete strangers than friends and family so people tend to get more criticism online. But remember mediocre isn't bad, it's just basic, normal. Nothing to get your bloomers in a twist over. Honestly, your reaction seems a bit conceited, sorry if that seems rude. I dress himekaji and I consider a good 70% of my coords to be mediocre. There is always room for improvement. If you open your mind and try new things I bet you can create some really beautiful coords.

>>6919814
Mod drama? All they did was introduce themselves and say they were going to start kicking people out if they caught them posting people here or on BTB. So if that made people uncomfortable, then they should be asking themselves why they are uncomfortable.

>>6919920
Lol, really? That doesn't seem bossy, imperious, and power mad to you.
I can understand standing up to bullies but to make rules about where one can/ cannot post is out of line. What if someone posted here in a polite way?
Besides, if they never came here they wouldn't know that they were being posted and are therefore hypocrites.

>>6919920
someone do it, so they get frustrated whe they can't figure out who it is.

>>6919942
I agree, I thought it was a bit much. It would have been one thing if they just introduced themselves, but to give the speech about dropping the banhammer on people caught posting here was kind of awkward and creepy.

Banning people from the com for stuff they do outside of the com is definitely some power hungry bullshit.

>>6919213
What a waste. Having an eye for colour and design comes with experience.

>>6919133
Or maybe she was one of the 50 people that met her this weekend when she wore it to a large meet?

>>6919920
Bringing up drama at a huge meet seemed a bit heavy-handed and inappropriate at something cheerful and fun like a picnic. Everyone knows the rules and everyone knows being a back-stabbing bitch is a mean thing to do but it's kind of hard to prosecute or enforce. The funny thing is the person who got banned was recently made a target on BtB.

>>6919942
They never said they would ban people for coming here or posting here in general. They said they would either ban or "time out" someone caught making a secret about someone or starting drama here. The rule is you can't name names when causing drama, not "don't go near cgl." I don't think that's power hungry or heavy handed given how many comms have much stricter rules.

Also it was hardly a speech, it was a couple sentences. You're welcome to feel "creepy" about it but are you sure that's not guilt? I post here regularly, I've spoken to mods about that, and I'm not worried because I and they know I'm not causing problems.

>>6919981
No one got banned, just warned.

>>6919981
>>6920054
The people everyone thinks are banned are actually in timeout, so please stop spreading rumors that anyone has been banned. This is not true

>>6920054
Just out of curiosity which other comms are you talking about that have similar/stricter rules?

>>6920071
Diff anon but Atlanta and NYC I've heard have rules like that.

>>6919942
Have you been paying attention to all the drama from the past year? Hearing them talk openly about cleaning out the drama people made me feel much better. I would rather the mods do something than keep pretending there's no problem. They are being honest with the community which is what mods should do. The new rule is that you can't post people on cgl in a mean way, which seems like a good rule?

I gave it a shot...

>>6920128

>>6920080
Most of the real NYC girls come hear all the time.
Hell, a group of us went out drinking with m00t.
The ita group probably has rules like that though, but seriously don't lump us together.

>>6920128
I think it's very cute. Would wear/10

>>6920168

There was really a m00t meetup? Swoon~

I feel bad for you girls that have such weird comm rules. We're all adults for fucks sake.
Either you know how you should behave by now or you don't. Drama is going to happen either way.

>>6920200
Right? Our comm is full of a bunch of high school kids though, mentally speaking

>>6920054
you... ask for permission for the anonymous comments you make on 4chan? that's not what happens in healthy comms, that's what happens in high schools.

>>6920054
Yes, yes, I think everyone that uses the internet has heard some variation on "If you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to fear and nothing to hide!!!1" before. The only question is exactly how placid do you have to be to actually accept it?

>>6918387
The one she made was *~special~* though!!!

>>6920168
Both of you accuse the other of being the ita group, how do we know which is which?

The New York comms clearly need names for themselves. And signs. Possibly also shivs, and snapping fingers.

>>6920403
I'm assuming she means the regular NYC comm, not the Victorian thingie with the insufferably long name.

>>6920403
I'm assuming the one that puts up with simply26 is the ita comm.

>>6920525
>puts up with simply26
I thought she was the founder/leader of that little outfit?

she also does fantastic steampunk..

and lingere photoshoots done in hotel bathrooms

>>6920555
>Classy wall hair dryer thar.

>>6920555

Name and/or moar.

>>6920584
its quinn of diamonds, the girl who did the horrible balloon lolita in the OP

>>6920200

As soon as everyone starts acting like adults, I'm sure they'll be treated like adults. I'm not even from Chicago and I'm tired of seeing their drama up here and on BtB. Something needed to change because it was getting out of hand. Adults don't need to humiliate a girl by posting her outfit on here to scrutinize and then put up unrelated pictures of her to make fun of. I'm thinking the ones complaining are the ones who enjoy the drama.

>>6920553
That's rubbish.

>>6920555
That saggy, wrinkly hose around the ankles isn't doing it for me.

>>6920698
>Adults don't need to humiliate a girl by posting her outfit on here to scrutinize
If you're not used to seeing people's outfits scrutinized and nitpicked on this board there is no helping you.

Posting non-lolita pictures for the sake of making fun of her is unnecessary cruelty but lol /cgl/.

I liked this thread better when it was about making her dress better.

>>6920849

>If you're not used to seeing people's outfits scrutinized and nitpicked on this board there is no helping you.

I am used to seeing it on here, and it's still a big eye-roll. Being used to seeing something doesn't make it right. That's a dumb excuse for bad behavior. Sure, everyone can have an opinion, but why does it have to be cruel to get the point across?

I'm still confused as to why you all seem to think this is "Chicago Drama" just because it's about a girl from Chicago who has only been to one meet-up. The dreaded "Chicago Drama" that you all allude to is bitches getting in catfights and spreading it all over the internet... not nitpicking at someone for looking bad. The whole thing going on in that comm stems from it being a huge community of girls ranging from adults living in the city to teens living in rich suburbs to people living in other states who come two or three times a year, and they all start off with VERY little common sense thinking "Everyone will get along with me and agree with me and Lolita will be a kawaii wonderland!!" and then flipping their shit when they are forced to realize that is not the case. This post feels like someone, maybe a lolita but maybe a cosplayer, who stumbled across a whiny special snowflake on tumblr and wanted to share. The derailing that went on here just to continue bitching about the unrelated Chicago comm drama is ridiculous, and has nothing to do with this kid, or probably even the OP.

>>6920584
facebook com/quinnofdiamonds

under the biography part of the about page, you will also find her model mayhem along with various other sites.

Huh, I didn't know you guys had so much drama, I had fun taking photos at this event.

>>6918263
Mmm the problem is the kind of fabric and strong colors she used. Maybe making the whole dress just pastel orange or pastel green, not both at a time and mixed like that. And the frills could be pastel blue.

Possible options.

>>6918501

Chicago megameet is meant for beginners and newbies trying to find their feet. The one Cassandra organized a couple years ago didn't even have a loli "dress code" so people just dipping their toes in could see/interact with real lolis and hopefully prevent some terribad fail.

>>6918501

Yeah... but.. Milwaukee looks fucking terrible 90% of the time.

>>6918528

NO. NO.

We've already have several circus prints from AP and Baby and even AatP, and I fucking hate clowns.

>>6918688

That was my first thought too. I smelled this shitstorm coming and made a point to talk to her and be nice.

She's totally fine, guys. It's just babby's first internet hate; she'll get over it, make something better. I have faith in her.

>>6919942

No, it doesn't. We shouldn't post each other here, or air really personal grievances. There are a few girls I really hate on a personal level but I don't feel the need to come crying to anon, I shit-talk them to my friends like a functional human being and keep peace in my motherfucking comm.

>>6920879

I think this is kind of it exactly--the Chicago comm is incredibly, monsterously diverse.

And I think every big comm has a year or two in the sun of being "that comm" till it gets passed to someone else--New York used to be a fucking goldmine of insanity.

>>6920403
I really want Westside Story Lolita to be a thing now. The two groups should rumble. Someone make this happen.

>>6924055
Yeah ok. Go away vendettachan.

>>6924054
>Chicago megameet is meant for beginners and newbies trying to find their feet and then get posted to cgl for how terrible they look, discouraging them from ever coming to another meet again
fix'd

>>6924055
inorite look at this shitty fat itas I bet they think Milanoo is a real brand. They fight all the time and no one likes each other and they don't even hold their pinkies up when they drink tea.

I've met some lolitas from Milwaukee and Wisconsin before. They are really nice ladies and most are well dressed.

I haven't heard of any dramu before.

>>6924460
lol. I mean who ever gives a shit about us really, that you have to post about us and say we're shitty?

>>6924641
That's because we have none. No idea who our vendetta-chan is.

>>6924460
>>they don't even hold their pinkies up when they drink tea.

>>6924736
>tfw my pinkies always stick out when I hold something and my family yells at me for not being manly

>>6920879
Somehow everywhere else has calmed down and Chicago hasn't. She has been to more than one meetup, and is trying!

The problem here is that no doubt a Chicago lolita posted her, because there seem to be quite a few people in Chicago bent on belittling others.

>>6924460
Everything here looks pretty good to me.

>>6924680
>>6924736
It was sarcasm and a blatant self-post.

Yes, Milwaukee lolitas are not always flawlessly dressed. There are a couple itas (sometimes one of them is me). But there's no drama and no fighting and I will take that over flawless brand coords.

What is so bad about Milwaukee besides a couple badly-dressed girls?

>>6924460
It's that fucking magician again. Everyone else looks nice, and then he's standing there like a douche.

>>6926268
Nothing. Just somebody trying to start shit when there ain't shit to start in the first place.

>>6925899
lol i was agreeing with you, senpai...gomen

>>6925899
Holy shit, what is that dress on the far left? I needs it.

>>6926482
I have that! It's actually a skirt by Dear Celine - never seen anyone else in it tbh and it's pretty old ~2009 so it might be hard to find

>>6918263

I had a giggle

can't believe she wore it to a meetup

>>6926482
>>6926527

oh i had that skirt too haha. I sold it earlier this year. It's highwaisted and really beautiful. But I lost a lot of weight and couldn't wear it anymore.