/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Dont.

Good signs:
>is at the same meet/clearly interested in the same stuff
>talks about cosplay/con stuff rather than straight-up hitting on a stranger
>seems relaxed and friendly rather than pervy or desperate

Red flags:
>stares at chest/other inappropriate places
>tries to get you on your own
>doesn't seem to be into con stuff/ seems to be just there for pussy


I think you'll be fine OP, guys chasing con pussy stand out like a sore thumb. If you're there in cosplay yourself and chatting to girls with the same interests, I don't see why they'd take it badly.

>>6907927
Holy shit, I never knew Louis Mensch cosplayed! That pic man.

>What's some "alright you're safe" signs and some "nigga back the fuck up you don't know me" red flags?

Not a grill but if the other person tries to put something into the conversation more than just simply answering your questions shortly then I would say continue.

If they say "I don't want to talk to you" or try to ignore you. Take the hint.

Don't forthright ask where they're staying, and never ask to come with them to their hotel unless you're invited.

Just don't do it, man, that's invasive.

like >>6907942 is saying, if they're answering in short answers, they're probably just trying to be polite but might not be interested.

If they're not engaged, and seem uncomfortable, you may want to just leave them be. Thank them for their time and carry on!

If someone starts talking about the series I'm cosplaying from and seems into that, I feel way better about it. I don't really like it when people come up and they just start talking about the con/what they're doing or not doing/something sporty or downright flirty.

I've had a number of people walk up and do the, "Oh hey, I'm a voice actor." Like people are supposed to give a shit. If I'm sitting down in a corner writing, then it makes no different whether or not you're a voice actor. You know what I mean, OP?

Just start talking about the cosplay and the series. That's a good way to warm people up to the conversation. If you want to slide into how her day is going, maybe use something like, "I don't see many cosplays of this (if its obscure-er)/It's awesome to see cosplays for the series."

Don't take it to heart if a girl is outright cold or rejective. I'm NOT saying she's tsun-tsun, but I know that I tend to put up a cold front before I even accept a male friend, especially because I'm single (and not looking.) It's not anyone's fault, but I'm just a paranoid ass.

And don't compliment our body parts. Telling someone they have a great rack or ass is really offputting for some people, and we'll assume the worst and a conversation won't get far. Just be respectful, ect.

I would talk to a girl at a convention anywnay I would talk to any other stranger in the real world:

Respect
Kindess
Not creepy or assholish.

Don't take it to heart or don't get mad or bitter if a girl don't wanna talk to you or if she's not interested. Also, don't be forceful or all up in their business about what they finna do or what hotel they staying it. That's a fuckin' 10 on the creep-o-meter.

>>6907927
Good:

>Relaxed, friendly, polite. Confidence is nice, shyness is alright too so long as it's obvious he's being nice.
>Legitimately funny
>Treats me like human being
>"Your costume is really cool. Can I take your photo/can I have my photo taken with you?"
>Eye contact
>Not smelling

Bad:

>Interrupts conversation I am already having with someone else to talk to me, stops me outside the girl's toilets, etc
>Points out that I am indeed a girl who is into geek shit in first few sentences for no reason (if I'm in convincing crossplay, that's fine, but not otherwise)
>Grabs me, blocks my movement etc to force me to talk to him, groping, lying down for upskirt photos etc
>Negging
>T-shirt with rape joke on it
>Catcalling
>"If you're really into the character you cosplayed, you'd know [asks endless quiz questions until I get one wrong]"
>Blatant verbal abuse ("you fucking slut")
>Leering down my top and, when I look up, doing the oral sex gesture
>Absolutely reeking due to not showering for months

The hardest part is the part about not approaching people whose body language says 'don't talk to me'. Just learn to spot that and you're probably alright unless you are a revolting misogynistic manchild, in which case I cannot help you.

By the way, if you're autistic or just need a primer on the basics of human interaction, realsocialskills on Tumblr is pretty good.

I guess I would say that if a guy comes up to me, compliments my costume, and seems genuinely interested in the series I'd have no problem staying and chatting. After that I guess I'd recommend asking questions like "is this your first time at such-and-such-Con?" or "how long have you been cosplaying for?" General questions about the hobby that make it seem like you're not just there to pick up girls. Probably good to ask a few questions to the girl you're talking to first, then if she seems interested in continuing a conversation you can add in some information about yourself, but don't go too indepth or you'll look full of yourself. Casual stuff, don't make it seem like an interview.

If a girl doesn't seem interested, just let her go and don't sweat it. You're surrounded by thousands of female cosplayers, there's bound to be at least one who's interested in you.

I recently had a guy try to flirt with me while tipsy at like 4pm. Idc what people do, but that's not the way to go. I had when they are upfront grabby, he tried to pick up my bag and in a bad joking way, not helpful. Then after all that got on his knee and asked for my number. Don't do fucking weird shit. That is a main red flag. I'm pretty tolerant, but some things are too much and just walk away time.

Good signs are talk about the con, cosplay, series, a lot of what other anon have been suggesting. Striking up a conversation just like you would anywhere else, but here you are almost guaranteed meeting people into similar stuff. I like when they're open and friendly, but not the worshipping type. I guess some girls love the man ready to kiss your boots idea, woman typically don't. At least in my case, can't speak for everyone. If a guy is more interested in calling me by my characters name or seems infatuated it is time to gtfo.

Okay, I have a question for you guys as well. (srry4hijackingthreadsorta) I am a girl, how would I go about getting a qt3.14 boyfriend who is into cosplaying as well? I am super shy and quiet, and do not have many social skills. I also would like to add that I don't wish to just have a hook-up.

>>6908116
Why do people think in these terms of I'm going out to find a bf, how abt just make friends and u might find someone who turns into more?

I've never heard anyone else say this but I doubt it's just me: stay away from "small talk" topics like school, work, the temperature, etc., at least until you have something else to go off as well. "Small talk" implies that you have nothing else to talk about and are only interested in talking to her because you want to hook up.

I know people in OP's pic. literally cutiest couple ever.

>>6907983
>Leering down my top and, when I look up, doing the oral sex gesture
Nobody could be this retarded, right? Please tell me this hasn't actually happened.

>>6908246
You'd be surprised.

I do most of the positive things and avoid the negative things girls are mentioning in this thread but I can't get past "incidental small talk." Like if I try to invite them to meet somewhere else, they already have plans and don't make a counteroffer, or their friends start giving me the stinkeye, and I don't want to force an awkward phone number exchange.

I mean just talking and flirting can be fun but "Would you like to meet up for lunch/dinner later?" literally has a 0% success rate.

>>6908195
>I know the people in the picture so therefore they are perfect

Rule number one:

Only hit on girls if you're attractive. If you're not attractive, you're creeping, and that is against the rules. Cosplay != consent.

If you really want to talk to the girls, make sure you're trained properly, and resist your urge to rape. Don't look at them from across the room, don't even look at them as you approach. Just casually walk on by and if she isn't disgusted by your appearance, compliment her costume. Say she's really nice. If she responds positively, you can ask for a photo.

Keep your hands in your own personal area the whole time, and at least a 3 ft distance from her. Don't ever enter her own personal area.

>>6908279

Be:
>Funny
>Attractive
>Charismatic
>Outgoing

Don't Be:
>Loud / Obnoxious
>Smelly
>Creepy / Own a Fedora

Things to remember
>If you're a 4 or 5, you're probably not gonna get the attention of a 8 or 9. Just be real! You wanna pull those high digits work on yourself, Get right, Hit the gym, and earn some confidence.
>Be confident! Body language is your first impression, well before words.
>If they walk away, don't follow. This isn't a test or a challenge. They aren't playing hard to get. Take the shot to your pride and move on.

>>6908283
Hit too close to home?

>>6908284

Here's a hard moral choice question for women then:

You see a 10/10 guy, but he's cosplaying a guy who has a fedora.

Is he a creeper or not?

>>6908292
imho Id say yes becaues only MRAs/misogynists wear fedoras, and being a misogynist is an automatic -5, so he's 5/10 and therefore a creeper

>>6908254

>"Would you like to meet up for lunch/dinner later?"

This line doesn't work, it puts pressure on the girl to commit to a meal date. Believe it or not, girls hate commitment too.

What you say instead is, "I'm grabbing lunch/dinner at ________, it'd be great to see you there."

Now they can show up at their own leisure without feeling like they've said Yes to a lunch/dinner date. If they have even a shred of interest, they'll show up.

Don't talk to girls at cons. Girls just go to cons to get attention and look at the people who are giving them attention with judgmentality. They'll find something wrong with you or what you did. There is no right. Treating men like animals makes them feel both like an entitled victim and a princess.

Just talk with men. They're the only ones who go to con to have fun anyways. Even if you aren't gay, it's your best bet. You'll walk away from the con with a more positive attitude rather than longing for cunts who think of you as nothing but trash.

>>6908292
Girls at cons only see a guy as being a 10/10 at a con if he is an asian guy with 6-pack abs and isn't wearing a shirt. A typical good-looking guy is still an ugly creeper.

>>6908284
>>If they walk away, don't follow. This isn't a test or a challenge. They aren't playing hard to get. Take the shot to your pride and move on.

Worst advice. If you want to get laid you have to be persistent. A first encounter is only the first stage of the mating ritual. Sure, girls might WANT you to leave them alone because they don't like to feel stalked, but that's THEIR game. Be nonchalant andind out what they are doing, track their movements, and re-engage at a later time. Several times are needed in most instances.

Wear down those walls until eventually those pants come off. It's the only way.

>>6908302
Get out /r9gay/

be attractive
don't be unattractive

>asking females on who to get females
That doesn't work OP
They'll tell you what they think they want, instead of what they really want

>inb4 I get bashed for saying this
Bring it on, girls

Persistance ( != creeping) is a must have for any man

>>6908284
>charismatic
>outgoing
>self-confident

That is completely unreasonable.

>>6908326

I think "Be courteous." and "Don't be creepy." is pretty sound advice no matter where it comes from. That's what most of the non-troll responses boil down to

>>6908331
There's a lot of stupid shit going on here, mostly comes from (apparently) women, I just wanted to give OP a heads up

>>6908331
"be courteous" means "don't get close to me" and "don't be creepy" means "don't talk to me unless you are exceptionally attractive." If you play a woman's game you'll never get laid. They need to be tricked into it.

>>6908354

"be courteous" means respect the fact that you're a stranger to me and I like to be cautious

"don't be creepy" means don't touch me without my permission, don't ask weirdly personal questions (what's your cup size?!), and don't breathe on me quietly

Why is it so hard to understand that women aren't trying to "game" you and we just want to feel safe and respected as human beings not as sex toys?

>>6908365
I do these things and still have no luck.

Check mate.

>>6908386
Doesn't mean ur doing anything wrong, just means no one has been interested in u thus far.

You guys can't pick up chicks?
It's not that hard, just don't be a creepy dick.
Have a decent cosplay and hope genetics blessed you enough.

>>6908386

You know I have a theory my troll friend, that when you test an experiment, you have many variables, and if one variable is often changing while the other one stays stagnant and you have the same result, perhaps it is not the variable that changes, but the variable that remains the same in every equation.


What I'm trying to say, is it's you.

>Check mate.

I'm >>6908326, not >>6908386

But still, some of you complain about the touch barrier and how you don't like for it to be broken, but it's a must if you plan on going further

When talking to girls (if they show interest) I always gently touch their arm or their face ('you got something on your face, may I?' [even though they don't, tee hee])

>>6908393
This. Or if you look like golem then option B is have money, lots of money.

>>6908386
Doing those things is not a surefire way to be accepted and get someone to be into you. It's just common sense and the bare minimum of politeness.

Or do you go around falling in love with every girl who is not a creepy weeaboo who glomps you and asks you to "yaoi" with your friend? Because expecting women to like you just for not being creepy is exactly the same as that.

>>6908412
There's a biiiig difference between smoothly doing something like that and immediately going in for a hug or picking her up. That's the weird shit.

>>6908412
Touching politely/nicely/not sexually (at least at first) and catching the signs that will tell you whether the touch was wanted/OK or not is an entirely different thing.

>>6908424
Why yes, of course.
That's the reason I'm trying to disambiguate some of the stuff that's going on

>>6908430
>Touching politely/nicely/not sexually
They know that although I'm not touching them directly in a 'sexual' way, it's getting there

i.e. when getting the 'something' out of their face, I do it with my hand half closed (fingers not together) and the back (? opposite from the palm) side of my index finger

A man must state his intentions, else he will just become a 'girlfriend'

>>6908418
Not really. I don't fall in love. Most girls don't do it for me because of their personalities or appearance or a combination of the two.

When I do fall in love it's pathetic because I'm terrible at expressing it.

Alright then, question to guys. What do u manly look for in girls while at a con? To even strike up conversation I'm talking about. What would make you approach her?

>>6908486
>cute
>cosplaying a character I like
>not a hambeast
>not a homestuck

Or if anybody approaches me first, I'll usually end up talking to them at length about any number of things.

>>6908274
Well, they aren't perfect. But they're a cute couple.

The guy is pretty overweight, but I applaud his efforts to pick a character who is a bit bigger, and his ability to make himself just look bulky instead of fat.

The chick is pretty airheaded also.
But literally. Cutest couple ever.

>>6908486
Well she has to be fun to talk to, cute.
Have something in common or a cosplay in common.
A nice person?

Talking to girls at cons is no different from talking to girls anywhere else. If anything it's much easier because of the majority of them bitches are crazy fuckers with daddy issues who will jump into bed with any guy who shows them the slightest moment of attention.

>>6908486

I don't actively approach anyone but if anyone comes up to me I'll talk to them so long as they aren't obnoxious.

>>6908528
I don't think you know what "cute" means.

>>6908486
pfff you don't need to do much, as long as you look decent (e.g not really ugly or a hambeast) and don't act like like a retarded weeaboo you can easily strike up a conversation with 90% of the male population

>>6908365
>IM A WOMAN AND IM HERE TO LAY DOWN THE LAW FIRST YOU SHOULD NEVER EVER BLABBIDY BLAH BLAH AND UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU LOOK AT ME THIS WAY OR DO THIS BLAH BLAH ARE YOU LISTENING? YOU BETTER RESPECT ME MISTER BECAUSE BLAH BLAH NO MEANS NO COSPLAY =/= CONSENT PERMISSION PERSONAL SPACE CREEPER RESPECT BLAH BLAH

Just shut up. We've heard the feminist rhetoric a million times. We get it. You're a stupid woman who doesn't understand male sex drive so we have to trick you into consensual sex. This isn't YOUR "game" this is OUR "game". If you were a man you would understand. But since you're a woman all you understand is fear, self-victimization and entitlement.

The only girls who go to anime cons are satanic lesbians. If you start talking to a girl and she seems friendly it's only because she's trying to lure you up to her room so she can chop off your dick and use it as a blood sacrifice.

>>6907983
>stops me outside the girl's toilets
>Grabs me, blocks my movement etc to force me to talk to him, groping, lying down for upskirt photos etc
>T-shirt with rape joke on it
>Leering down my top and, when I look up, doing the oral sex gesture
How common are stuff like this?

>>6908292
There's no 10/10 guys who go to "cosplay" cons.

That's a fact.

>>6908279
> Cosplay != consent.
As a Men's Right Activist I am deeply insulted by this. Women are an inferior gender, they exist to be in the kitchen. If they dress as whore, it is a man's right to treat her as a whore.

Just out of curiosity are guys less likely to approach a girl in a more revealing outfit for conversation? actual interest not just a con hook up.

>>6908631
Depends on if the outfit is actually supposed to be revealing or not. I generally stay away from the "sexy version of xxx" people.

>>6908573
>FEMINISTS
>WOMEN ARE STUPID (I'M NOT MISOGYNISTIC BTW)
>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAAAAAND MEN
>WE HAVE TO TRICK YOU INTO SEX (BTW THAT'S TOTALLY OK I HAVE MORALS)
>THIS IS OUR GAME, WHICH IS WHY MEN HAVE A FUCKHUGE HIGHER RATE OF INVOLUNTARY CELIBACY
>NO, REALLY, WE ARE BETTER AT THIS GAME
>WOMEN ARE ALL ENTITLED
>BTW, IF YOU TRY TO TAKE AWAY MY MALE PRIVILEGE I'LL CALL YOU A BITCH
>BUT I'M NOT ENTITLED

Can't take all dat misogyny.

>>6908644
Ah yes, that's true. I meant more the outfit is cannon and suppose to be revealing (to whatever degree). Didn't know if that would deter most guys from talking to someone.

>>6908647
This!

If you talk about women, you are a misogyniyst.

>>6908651
I can't speak for everybody, but it wouldn't really change my wanting to talk to them or not. However, girls like that are almost always surrounded by a herd of guys trying to hit on them or just generally cockblocking anybody else who tries to get near so I usually just don't bother.
If I catch somebody I recognize and I like their cosplay enough, and they're not in the middle of a clusterfuck, I'll go and say hi.

>>6908631
For me personally, I might be kind of intimidated because I'd think she'd assume I just wanted to get in her pants if I were to strike up a conversation.

Then again I'm really cautious/nervous and don't speak for all guys.

>>6908664
Fair enough :)

Good signs:
>be wealthy
>be good looking
>be a violent criminal

Red flags:
>be poor
>be unattractive
>be a decent human being

>>6908691

>friendzone and never the bone zone

Please make this thread stop

>>6908717
Good job at remembering your sage.

>>6908631
For me, yes. Usually I assume they have higher standards and have tons of guys hitting on them anyway so I tend to avoid them. Usually if there's a really attractive cosplayer in a not very revealing outfit, I'm much more inclined to speak with her.

Simpler version: I don't like approaching girls where it's assumed I just want to get in their pants. It's much more casual otherwise. The same applies to everyday situations, too.