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Last one, good luck OP

Is the OP picture really otome kei? She wore it with an a line...

>>6903432
otome isn't just lolita minus petticoat, it is about the overall look and feel an outfit gives. So yes, I'd classify OP being otome.

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Rustles my jimmies when people just think they can wear their OTT lolita coord without a petti and call it otome. That's not otome, that's an OTT coord without a petti.

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I need this. Where's it from?

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I guess this is here where I should warn you I have a huge hardon for axes femme.

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I'm pretty sure it's Jane marple.

>>6903824
Vest & SK looks like something from Excentrique, adorned with things from other brands.

What makes a good otome coord in your eyes seagulls

>>6903824
I'm >>6904442 . Was mistaken.
Brand's Amavel

>>6903438
I don't see how it's "otome" over being classical lolita, though?

>>6904446
a little cream a little coffee.

Colors that provide an interesting, yet gentle contrast.

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Thank you both!

>>6904449
the blouse, the accessories, the purse, they're all very otome. dunno how to explain it, maybe you just don't have the eye for it yet.

Otome prints are superior to lolita prints, in my opinion.

>>6904449
Otome is hard to pinpoint since it varies a lot and doesn't have set rules like people often say lolita has, eg: skirt must be longish, have the right silhouette (that being said these lolita 'rules' are broken and challenged all the time.)

For me, otome has a certain quirkiness to it that is often seen in the prints that brands put out and in the outfits that people create where they use unusual colour and or print combos.
To me it seems far less matchy-matchy than a lot of lolita which isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just sets it apart.
Otome as a style has quite a range as well, sometimes you see very out there outfits and other times it's very toned down.

I've been noticing a lot of people trying to describe the difference between otome and lolita. It's not so much about what otome is specifically, it's about what lolita isn't. I know that lolita has begin to evolve quite a bit, however, a real difference between the two styles is the fit. Lolita is very very fitted, while otome tends to take more from modern casual styles with a looser more flowy silhouette where the clothing drapes the body elegantly rather than the very specific sort of formula lolita has.

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Continued (because I'm an idiot who left out some stuff):

Lolita and otome do crossover which can make it hard to distinguish between the two. But honestly, I really hate getting caught up on categorizing and classifying everything to a t.

If you do really want to set the two apart though I often find that otome is a far quirker style that has a very laid back feel to it (I'm not saying that lolita isn't quirky, it's just that making this generalization can help with separating the two, otome also isn't a 'lazy' sort of laid back, it just looks sort of effortless.)
It's hard to express but an otome outfit gives me a very different feel than a lolita outfit.

Sorry for my ramblings, it's just hard to put into words and I need some sleep.
Apologies if I just confused you more.

>>6904777
some are, some arent.
both otome and lolita brands have good and bad prints.
otome can be a nice substitute for lolita prints.
>pic relevant; otome dresses i recently bought

i thought AP's drained cherries series sucked so i opted for MILKs cherry garden instead. im also a sucker for fishies so i got the mermaid print from ETC. lolita brands rarely do prints thatre underwater related , which is as often as they do sailor themes.

Am I crazy for thinking that ETC's pieces have an odd popularity?
I'm still a newbie to otome but when I look at the most popular and therefore pricey pieces it seems to be just the same few ones (normally prints that feature 'ETC' in big letters) popping up over and over again and everything else seems to fall by the wayside.
It kinda seems like two major extremes with not a whole lot of middle ground inbetween.

>>6905093
Hnngggg cherry garden.

Recommendations for otome shoes that'll fit a size 9US/39-40 EU+ preferably not taobao.

>>6904845
I'm trying to figure out what otome is as well. Would you say it's the eastern equivalent of twee? They share the same sort of quirkiness and color palette.

I'd say the main differences between lolita and otome is lack of petticoat, but also that otome hardly ever follows the exact-color matching of lolita.

My dream piece.

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'Twee like' isn't a half bad description for the confused or uninitiated, it is a bit of a simplification though.

Otome in a nutshell (the crap I was rambling on about earlier):

1.Cute
2.Interesting colour and print combos
3.Not very matchy-matchy (relates to the last point)
4.Laidback/effortless in comparison to lolita

Like I said earlier don't worry too much about trying to pinpoint/ over classify it.

Is there any Bodyline that would work for Otome?

>>6905485
There is one pair of shoes I have been considering getting for otome from there.
Think some of their other shoes would cross over well too.

>>6905752
Damn those are cute for Bodyline shoes.

>>6905805
Right? My friend bough the white ones and likes them so far. They are really comfy.

>>6905341
Hey, what do you know... a bread print.

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I have them in brown and my girlfriend has them in black (I actually wore them in an attempted otome coord that just wound up looking like a super ita lolita coord.) and they are so so comfy and lovely. They're pretty sturdy, too. Mine are a little scuffed but I'm really badly pigeon-footed, so eh.

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I have always like Chocolate Rosette, but I'm not a lolita so I hesitate on getting it. I didn't think it would work as casual. Now I really want it! HNNGG!

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Yeah I got the salopette recently and I think it looks wonderful worn casually. I can post more chocolate rosette coords in more otome styles I've found just to convince you some more?

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Please do! I would also love to see your coord too if you don't mind. Which color did you get? I can't make up my mind.

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I don't have a photo of my wearing it sorry. I got it in red, but I would love the blue one too.

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Now some more strictly otome brands.

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I'm sure you look lovely in it! Thank you so much for posting these. I was feeling a little lost after getting my last dream dress, now I have a goal! I have never purchase any lolita brands, because I fear I might get called ita if I don't have a petti. Can lolita dresses be worn casually without being ita?

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I think you can, it just depends on the dress's construction and overall style.

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How much did your Rosette cost?

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About $300, anon.

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Different anon, but I've always wanted the skirt in brown.

On a side note I'm trying to move my lolita wardrobe into the direction of otome because I find it's so much more wearable.

Pic related is the first ETC piece I bought and it made me feel so happy!

Dear Universe,
Please send me one of everything in this thread for free.
Sincerely, Anon

can we have a listing of quality otome tumblrs please? I'm liking all of this inspiration

>>6907691

wish granted, but it's all a size too small.

Bump!

>>6909897
I fucking love this print so much.

>>6909903
Funnily enough I was trying to choose between my image and the one you posted to bump with!

Any clue on how much it goes for?

>>6909931
No idea, never seen it up for sale personally.

>>6909931
Considering how popular this cut and style was, you're probably going to be looking at spending 40k yen+.

>>6909931
I've seen an auction that ended at either 60k or 80k yen

>>6905326
Oh jesus christ I love that. Info?

>>6905376
No offence to you at all, but I think you missed out the most important point. Otome-kei is about dressing like an "otome" and I think this tumblr has a good explanation for it http://fuckyeahotomekei.tumblr.com/post/17629709814/hi-what-exactly-is-otome-kei-it-seems-to-be-a-mixture<wbr>

How short is the Chocolate Rosette? I am 5'9" and I want it like crazy.

>>6910075
Speaking of Jane Marple, does someone has any information about pic related or why it seemingly became so popular?
There's an auction at yahoo japan currently, someone bidding 96000 yen on it and there's still one day left to go. The dress itself looks very generic, JM releases something similar like every year... so what the hell is happening here?

>>6910127
I'm the anon from earlier who bought it. I'm 5'9-5'10 and it is very short. I'm going to wear very opaque tights or leggings, otherwise shorts to keep decent if I bend over.

>>6910807
Thanks! I can deal with that if I wear shorts. Are the straps adjustable at all?

>>6910216
jane marple fans are fucking insane and rich thats whats happening here

>>6910872
Agreed. I was in japan recently and I had the most polite stare-off over a Jane Marple dress that was the last one in the store, which is honestly the most Japanese aggression I'd ever seen whiel being over there. Bitches be cray. (I got the dress, but probably reinforced the 'pushy gaijin' stereotype, whoops)

Hello! You must get this all the time but have you got any tips for a first timer? I really like this style a lot, I have similar pieces in my closet waiting to be worn. This otome looks very cute and frilly, without being too over the top girly like lolita, it seems.

So... Any tips? I would gladly appreciate it. Thank you!

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otome is more about complimentary colors instead of matching the same shade like lolita. You still need a balance though, but not the same as like 'hair accessory matches shoe and purse color exactly' if you get my drift. The silhouette is more mature (not as much poof, more a-line) and the accessories should feel the same, more mature, a kind of vintage feel. The pallet can be a lot of things, but i would stay away from pastels. In reality, once you get the hang of it, I would say it's easier than lolita, but getting the hang of it might be harder in the beginning because it is a lot different in terms of coording. Shoes wise, stick with more 'classic' shoes that you see in lolita coords (nothing too frilly/with lots of bows or straps) and hair I would keep simple and natural, braids, loose curls, bobs seem to work well. Hope this helps. It's really something you have to look at a lot of pictures to get a good idea of what works. When I first started lolita I had no clue how to tell the difference but after browsing lots of these threads and seeing D_L posts with people who do both styles, it's pretty easy to pick out for me now.

>>6911046
the brands you want to check out for ideas are Jane Marple and Emily Temple Cute and SOME of their sister brand Shirly Temple (Especially if you are super petite since their clothes are children's sizes)

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Thank you so much, I'll be sure to keep these in mind. Thank you!

>>6911089
shirley temple's not for children, you're thinking of emily temple lulu

>>6902611
I've been searching for this skirt, in this colorway, just because of this coord. So cute!

>>6911164
woops, my bad, yes

>>6905093
Could you please post a closeup of the mermaids on the ETC JSK?

>>6907466
dat sideways PastelBat angle looks so silly

>>6910872
that may explain it, it's still fucking crazy. The auction ended at 230000 yen by the way.

>>6911185
That ETC JSK has no mermaids, unless I missed it on my own dress. It's just an underwater scenery piece.

>>6914541
they probably thought the one you posted was the mermaid jsk
regardless here is the closeup of that one (at least i assume this is the one you were referring to)
>>6914536
>2,500 USD for a generic strawberry printed dress
what the fuck, man

>>6911046
Read a lot of shoujo manga from the Year 24 Group. Seriously. The feel is right on target with what otome tries to accomplish.

>>6910216
Jane Marple fans have more of a collector mentality, even compared to lolita brand obsessives. If something was a benchmark print that sold out immediately when it was released, everyone has to have it for their archives.

>tfw want to buy otome brand stuff and wear it normally but it all seems too expensive for every day wear, but somehow a ~$300 lolita dress you don't wear every day doesn't seem like too much

what is wrong with me

but also, does anyone have any suggestions for otome on a budget? is it just basically taobao or are there other non-taobao shops (outside of japanese auction sites of course)?

>>6914703
I feel the opposite. Otome is more tone down and acceptable for casual outings. I have never got any negative treatments like the cases in the lolita in public thread.

If you are on a budget, taobao is an option if you know what you are looking for. Personally I feel taobao is too limited to put together a spectacular outfit. There's also axes femme, which I consider to be on the cheaper end.

>>6914703
Maybe it's just me, but I think it's pretty easy to do otome wearing clothes from regular stores and even from department stores.
Look for dresses like the one on the pic (which is from a regular brazilian shop), specially the colorful ones with cute prints. Add a peter-pan collared blouse, tights, cute accessories and voilà.
Of course, owning brand makes things easier. Maybe you should invest on key pieces. Though imo I'd rather pay $300 on a dresse I'll wear frequently than on one I'll wear once or twice.

>>6914703
If you're looking at cheaper alternatives, just remember to pay attention to how quality the construction and materials are. Seeming expensive (though it might not actually be expensive) is half the battle in getting the otome look.

I'm a sucker for berry prints and damn it I want this dress so badly know!

What otome brands are more pastel colored or almost OTT/sweey lolita-like?

>>6915900
Check out MILK.

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the back of that dress looks totally wrong for otome, also the colours aren't bright enough

>>6916493
Yeah, but that's your opinion, I can see a lot of potential. Not as easy as coordinating brand but with the right blouse/cardi and the right accessories it could look very cute.
Also, I'm saying this for the 29384792 time, but "bright colors" is not a rule for otome; >>6903361
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and many others in this thread are good examples of that. Also, this pic. JM very related.

anyone have pictures of chubbier girls wearing otome well?

>>6917061
Lose some weight fattie.

>>6916493
otome dresses don't need to be bright and jewel toned. The print is colourful enough that you could add more with the accessories

>>6917061
I don't own any, but it's pretty simple. Just add a cute belt to define your waist and you're good to go! Actually, I think otome is one of the most chubbygirl friendly j-fashion.
Sage for no contribution.

This might be a stupid question, but how long can skirts be in otome? I ask because I thrifted a skirt some time back with a print that feels very otome, but it also goes down to my ankles, so I'm not sure how to coord it or if it would work since knee-length seems to be the standard.

>>6917953
Does it have to fit within the style? Just wear it coordinated similarly to a regular otome outfit and call it good.

>>6917061
No. Now stop trying to infect good fashion styles with your fat virus.

>>6917092
indeed, I have at least 15 black ETC dresses and several brown ones as well. JM has release many dark colours.

>>6917958
True, it doesn't. I've been wearing it for a while already just however I think it looks nice. Thank you, though, I'll do that.

are there any taobao otome stores ?

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Sorry, you posted a picture of an aquatic print ETC dress and said you had one with mermaids on it so I assumed you meant the dress in the photo. I'm on a quest to collect every lolita dress with mermaids on it so I'm always on the lookout for ones I haven't seen before. Right now I'm trying to obtain pic related by either Shirley Temple or ETC, I forget which one made this.

>>6902611
Picture in OP's post. HNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

I wish that I could pull off skirts so that I can wear that coordinate. It's perfect.