/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Ugly ass face.

>>6836983
..is that blood on the counter top?

Urgh those snakebites are ruining it....

>>6836988
Looks like wig fibers to me.

She needs to remove all those piercings and cover her tattoos.

I dont like the color of the wig and it just looks too flat to me.

Honestly, not bad. I wish the top cupped rather than squished though.

>>6836996
I agree with the piercings, but you can barely see her tattoo. Arent you being a bit nitpicky about that?

>>6837012
well, said anon, breasts dont work that way. Comic physics make little to no sense and half those artists dont understand how anatomy works.

I like this Starfire minus the piercings and too much make up on her eyes.

she's not even the right color, showing tits and having a decent body dont instantly make you the best.

heres a superior starfire

>>6837027
Not /that/ tattoo.
I mean the one that wraps around her upper-arm.

>>6837025
are you joking?
>dat shitty make up
>dat streaky body paint

Nope

>>6836983
Not even close, OP

>>6837042
The pose makes it hard to see, but if she was at a con, yeah that'd annoy me.

>>6837064
That beastboy is ADORABLE

>asians do it better

people just have a vendetta against her

>>6837064
I don't feel that counts, because it is a completely different version.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think OP's image is the best Starfire, but you can't compare these two when the outfits are different (but still canon) outfits...

>>6837083
Is she someone famous?

I just don't like how pierced up and tattooed she is. Who is she?

>>6837084
They said "best Starfire ever" not "best New 52 Starfire ever." Just sayin.

>>6837091
Hmmm... Good point.

>>6837077
>asians do it better
no

> outfit looks ready to burst with slight movement
> ugly ass contacts
Far from the best, like other anon said would be better if it looked cuff and not squishy her boobs in an ugly way.

>>6836983
>Innaccurate Wig
>Skin Isn't Orange
>Horrible Makeup

Nope.

I think Starfire may be the only appropriate character to get a bad spray-on tan for

>>6837077
I love that whenever that pic gets posted someone says this. Get it Beast Boy.

>>6837025
sweet jesus
no amount of make up will help with that busted mug

>>6837135
The skin looks orange to me, but that might just be the lighting.

>cosplaying anything nu52 related

>>6837012
jesus christ, she looks like she's missing ribs. no kidding comic artists don't know anatomy for shit.

>>6837689
Wow, like no one has never pointed that out before.

>>6836983
The wig should be more maroon than orange I think.

>>6837689
yeah, i barely call them artists, as apparently they never went to school or looked at an anatomy book in their lives half the time. Very few 'artists' exist today in comics, especially Marvel and DC

>>6837285
starfire has orange skin

>>6837025

Selfpost detected

>>6837812
To be fair, citing Rob Liefield's work as a blanket example for bad anatomy in comics is kind of gimme.

>>6838024
Yeah, Rob Liefeld is shit-tier.

Pic related. Look at Deadpool's thumb.

>>6837025
Her bodypaint is awful.

You are all losers.
Dis is best Starfire.

>>6837098
Yes.

Have there been any other 52 Starfires, though?

Tenleid, right? She posted her wig in the progress thread and it looks pretty baller. I like that she didn't opt to make it superlong, and the dye job is fantastic. Nice to see that it looks pretty good from the front too, though styling the bangs a little would be nice. New52 SF tends to keep her front hair kinda swoopy, so a little added drama to the wig front would be fantastic.

>>6838081
My bad, it's not her at all. I thought it was her because she used similar contacts.

>>6838085
Nope, it's tenleid.

>>6838091
Her wig and construction are completely different, though. Is this just an earlier version or something? She just posted in the progress thread not too long ago. Wig looks completely different, collarpiece is armor instead of fabric etc.

>>6838112
She's posting with her trip.

>>6837913
Do you know what art is? Not defending their shitty anatomy, but saying something isn't art because it doesn't follow reality is flat-put stupid.

>>6838160
out*

>>6837812
Hot.

It needs to more yellow

>>6836983
wut a fukin ugly bich fat ass and percings and shity wig

That's not Tenleid, is it?
Regardless, I'm looking forward to her new Starfire. The wig she created looked gorgeous.

>>6839438

tenleid wishes she had those tits

>>6839438
Tenleid pls go.

>>6839438
doesn't look anything like her

Only if she will take out her Piercings

>>6840129
pft, you say "if only", but then /cgl/ will only find other flaws to bitch about.

How did starfire grow up to dress like that? She looked much better in Teen Titans..

>>6840170
because new 52 makes all the female characters into porn stars

I wouldn't mind seeing someone straight up doing her 80s armor with accurate giant hair

>>6840174
Comic book characters have always looked like porn stars, you just haven't watched porn from the 50's-90's.

>>6837689
What really? I always thought that if you're thin enough and your back is arched at the right angle, then your body can look like that. Mine does at least.

>>6837064
>dat raven
hnnngh

I'm really looking forward to seeing tenleids(is that the right trip?) starfire, she looks like she's putting a lot of work into it

>>6840206
no, no it can't
id like to see you try though so i can laugh

>>6840350
Its all in the angle. Try posing like the image earlier in the thread. You might look like this, too.

>>6840379
But it's a pose, and it gets tiring seeing poses in every panel instead of someone throwing a badass punch or something.

>>6840385
My point was that people can look like the drawing, if they do the same pose though. Maybe I should have worded my post better. I'm not the best at English. But I get what you mean and agree 100%. It'd be cool if artists could make the girls both feminine and badass.

>>6840379
:3

>>6840397
Ribs are still sticking out. Starfire's are absent altogether.

>>6840417
this. and if not absent altogether, they at least look bizarrely shaped, not like a true ribcage. lungs wouldn't work well under a ribcage in that rounded shape. it's gross-looking.

and starfire's stomach comes in so far on the right side, it's like there isn't any abdomen there at all. exactly like she's missing a rib/organs.

>>6840482
sorry, meant left side. her ass sticks out so much further than it should, too. it's not a natural hip/waist ratio shape.

Starfire, just like every other comic character, is a caricature. Everything is exaggerated. Her hair, her waist, her boobs, her butt, everything is over the top. So what if her anatomy isn't perfectly realistic? That isn't what the artists were aiming for.

You shouldn't be comparing yourself to a caricature! It isn't real. Sadly, this shit gets ignored my people on the internet who cry about how impossibly skinny comic book characters make them feel inadequate.

>>6840493
it's not necessarily about feeling inadequate, it's that there are so few representations of at least somewhat realistic characters and poses. another anon mentioned above that they wished female comic characters would do more than just pose in every panel. where's the action shots that aren't physically impossible or blatantly sexual? it's boring to see the same stuff all the time, regardless of individual art styles and preferences. know what I mean?

>>6840504
I hear you on that. It is boring to see terrible cases of 'same-body' or 'same-face.'

It's just annoying for people to blame their low self esteem on comic book character designs.

>>6840505
yeah I feel you
it just sucks that there are so few "average-looking" female comic characters. like, at least try to add a few realistic characters once in a while. where's the badass ladies who throw punches and shit instead of just looking like immaculately posed figures in every panel? I want to see some badass women.

>>6837158
"No, no, I really want a bad spray tan. Make me orange! It's for a costume."

I feel almost enlightened from your comment, I'm not even joking. This would seriously be the best way to get the right skin colour for Starfire...As long as you didn't need to the house for awhile after the con lol.

>>6840505
No, no, little girls don't read comic books so the scapegoat is Barbies and them Bratz dolls.

>>6840632
The lels when I see moms on Facebook threatening to pull their little girls off My Little Ponies because of the Equestrian Girls thing

>>6840397
Woah wait. Someone actually saved my picture? I posted it to try and prove a point to that one anon, so I deleted it once he/she saw it. Whats the point of posting it again?

>>6840982
Because deleted pictures cause God to kill a kitten. Stop deleting pictures.

Who cares about this shit. The thing that pisses me off most about people getting mad because of unrealistic proportions or boring sex-object females is that everyone is forgetting the target audience, horny teenage to early 20s males. That's really the thing. Comics about females aren't targeted towards females and they're not supposed to be. I mean they do make some yes, but they're usually bad.

>>6838115
I think that anon you're talking to originally thought OP was Tenleid.

>>6837689
Oh no somebody call the boring art police. Shit art doesn't have to be 100% correct. If it was shit would be boring as fuck and everyones art would look the same. Not to mention anatomy is far from being the insanely off.

>>6840994

>>6840994
People really miss the point with this argument. We're pissed off because we live in a world where to market to men, we break the backs of women characters because dressing them in costumes that hardly cover their lady parts isn't sexualizing them enough.

The more we make boring sex-object females, the more men who grow up thinking that's what women should be.

>>6841020
this so much
and it makes it a lot harder to get into comics if you're a woman, and to meet other fans, because the majority are the horny idiots who think women should be sex objects and it's infuriating.
it's hard to find comic fans that aren't assholes to women when all they read is shit like this. we need some comics to market to women.

>>6841020
You're kind of slut shaking too though. IF a girl wants to dress to show her body and isn't breaking the law or any con rules, why blame her for some feminist bs?

>>6841019
fuck off with your red-nosed bullshit

>>6841097
Their argument is aimed at how males perceive women based on comics.

Hoes gonna ho, we can't stop that.

A friendly reminder that some women have MUCH worse things to deal with than scantily-clad fantasy women in fictional comics.

And now, back to your regularly-scheduled first world problems.

Is this tenlied? Saw it on tumblr and the wig looks like the one she posted in the progress thread

>>6841135
I'm pretty sure she's not even done with it yet.

Chill the fuck out about Tenleid already. Holy shit.

>>6841135
Christ it's not hard to find pictures of Tenleid and she's got a pretty unique look, go memorize her face before you keep asking.

>>6841097
Definitely not the point I was making! Ladies can dress up in how much or little clothing they like- I personally practically strip naked the second the weather gets nice and cosplay the skimpy ladies because I like to show off.

I'm happy for there to be some characters in comics who run around naked- the problem is that it's not a few, it's almost all of them, and then they are bent in to the boobs and butt pose and I just really want a realistic and representative portrayal of woman in media

>>6841020

> "The more men who grow up thinking that's what women should be"

Because men are braindead idiots who can't tell fantasy from reality and will automatically rush out to tell women how to be because "A comic book said!"?

>>6841232
yes

>>6841232
No, it's easier to just look for one that looks like that than work on one that's subpar

>>6836983
>Dat fabric
>Dose piercings
>Dat face
>Dat pooch
>Dat flat hair
>Dat crappy photoshopped skin

Decent, def not best.

>>6840397
Except the arch of Starfire's back is almost a 90 degree angle, her torso/waist is half a foot smaller, and her hips seem non-existant while her butt is also somehow huge. I should put the two next to each other for a better comparisons.

If anything, your picture is good proof that you can have similar "sexy" poses without blatantly breaking the characters' spines.

You people are retarded, OP is NOT Tenleid.

>>6840505
While comic book characters don't affect my self-esteem, I get pissed off by the impossible anatomy. Mostly because the proportions and poses are almost always done to make the character as sexy as possible, and while you can see some of the characteristics in the men, it is not nearly prevalent, drastic, or impossible, Rob Liefeld withstanding. (Rob Liefeld is always withstanding)

>>6841186
> I just really want a realistic and representative portrayal of woman in media

If I wanted reality I'd go outside.

I am an ugly beta loser, I dont want nor expect male Superheroes to look like me.

Women loved The Avengers movie - all that sexy man meat. You bet your ass no women wants Thor or Loki or Tony Stark to look like your average comic geek.

Yet when it comes to a female superhero they want them to be "more realistic"?

*fap fap fap*

cosplay?

>>6841294
It's a matter of target audiences, power fantasies and wish fufilment, and objectification. 2/10 I responded

>>6840482
At least he has the excuse of "she's an alien" so maybe she just needs a bendy ass spine. His art is still shit even with a poor excuse

>>6841065
>>6841020
Yep this this. I loved Teen Titans when I was a kid, and once I was older and it was canceled, I wanted to get into the comic book scene to fill that hole. But the art is practically soft core porn and the women are written as just bland fanservice. Starfire and Raven were my favorite characters on my favorite show, and it makes me so sad that the comic book characters are such a farcry from the awesome ladies in the cartoon. :(

>>6841123
>Some people have worse problems than you, therefore you can't have any.

SPINE? WHAT IS SPINE?

>>6841318
This... this is just funny. Those faces.

>>6841318
Fucking Liefeld. That lazy piece of shit.

Why was he hired so much?

>>6841318
http://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960508/worst-rob-liefeld-drawings

always makes me lol >.<

it's so hard being a western woman

>>6841301
This.

Would plow all of these Starfires.

Starfire is an alien did we forget this

>>6841123
>>6841337
>You are not allowed to solve the small problems because somewhere in the world, bigger problems exist

>>6841294
Male superheros, largely, do not look like the average guy. I'll give you that. However, male characters are always dressed sensibly. Male characters are never posed in ways that normal human beings cannot bend just to show off their crotch (apart from Nightwing for some reason?). Male characters are written with well rounded personalities.

Honestly, if we got to the stage where women in comics were stereotypically pretty, thin and with big breasts but written with an actual personality, not constantly posed in the most sexual manner acceptable in the context and actually dressed for the situation they're in, we'd be a huge step from where we are now.

>>6843183

>I need feminism because people stare at my tits
>I need feminism because my source of entertainment portrays my gender in a way I don't like waaaah

It's not a fucking problem.
Even Sims wouldn't do that little frustration dance at this shit. No one deserves to be belittled on those grounds but this is a molehill.

>inb4 but the children!
You're giving them too much credit.

>>6837064
dat beastboy

LET ME LOVE YOU.

>>6840982
you're blind. they are NOT the same. do you see the angle of her boobs? her shoulders? her spine? idiots like you are the reason why shit like this keeps getting drawn, makes me angry as hell

maybe seeing them side by side will help you realize how fucking broken her anatomy is

but please continue saying how this pose is totally possible

>>6843301
it's almost like they're not the same weight :O

>>6843301
If someone had an impossibly long torso and assets then yeah, sure
but you know that's also a comic book character so the proportions are completely inaccurate...just in case you didn't know that

fucking butterface slut

>>6843313
It's a comic book character so its supposed to be wrong is the worst excuse
At no weight will her body magically be able to bend her spine

>>6836983
her hair lacks volume

you're right, anon. real talk. case closed!

>>6837083
Dude, she's a heroin using bitch who sleeps with anyone who will help her get what she wants.

>>6837083
>>6837083
Dude, she's a heroin using bitch who sleeps with anyone who will help her get what she wants.

>>6843394
Maybe that's why her ribs look wrong..
She's not missing any, her stomach is just longer..

>>6837287

I'd like to see some cosplay Boy Chimney.

>>6840504
>>6840505

You should try reading some comics from Image and Dark Horse.

>>6843202
>(apart from Nightwing for some reason?)

Might have something to do with his huge female fanbase, just a fucking hunch.

>Male characters are written with well rounded personalities.

Ha!

>>6843233
>I need feminism because people stare at my tits

People will stare, it happens, sometimes it can't be helped, it's the natural sexual behavior of the human being, not a big deal, It stars to be a problem when they yell obscene shit at you, when they start harassing you, and even when they make you feel shame for showing your tits off, so to speak. Yeah, when we dress we're conscious of what kind of attetion we're going to receive, but just because you see a "hot" woman/men (because, women can be very abusive too) doesn't mean you have to make him/her uncomfortable with comments that may be unwanted and misinterpreted, right? Men are intelligent beings, they're not all a bunch of perv-apes, my issue is with the ones that actualy are like this. And you should worry too, because they make all men look bad, and that cause the more stupid group of females stick with the idea that "ALL MEN ARE THE SAME DD:" (wich is a presposterous idea, of course).

>I need feminism because my source of entertainment portrays my gender in a way I don't like waaaah
And would you say you like the form the media portrais your gender?
>inb4 I don't care about that shit, the world and I got bigger issues.
okey, but just think about it for a second will ya'? In most entertainment sources men are either: stupid jocks who threats everyone like shit and fuck everything that moves without giving two shits about the consequences, brutal, violent, kind of "filthy and messy" with "macho" attitude, "I dominate women" etc. When they're the 'nice guys', or either the intelectual type they have to be: beta-faggots, "geeks" (on the pejorative context), clumsy as FUCK, zero social skills at the point to be almost autistic, who couldn't ask a girl to save his ass. And, if they have even a hint of what you could call 'sensitivity' or 'feminine' interests, they have to be ridicously flamboyant, weak as fuck, a total coward who can't stand for himself, probably closeted gay... why?

>>6844246
WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS?

Yeah, they're plenty of good-male characters portrayed on TV and other media as they are some good female characters too (less women that men I got to say from my expierence, but you probably have a different opinion), but the fact is the thing that what the media actualy sells and the people consumes are these shitty stereotypes, these character's canon personalities that are repeated ad nausem, and makes the more gullible people use this canons as a defintion of genders, or races, etc. That is not the reality. Wouldn't you like a simple-balanced-man, whose intelligent, critical, emotionaly healthy, average looking guy, just dealing with the world without being so outstanding because he is "SUCH AN ALPHA" or " A SHITTY OMEGA"?, because I want, and I want women like that too, someone with some actual brain and soul, and cares for people, and resolve issues without being limited by his "personality details" A.K.A: the character it's uncapable to adapt his attitude depending on the situation, and it's gonna keep doing the same stupid shit everytime. Altought I know these steryotipes reflects (pitifully) the actual majority of people, and you could call that the 'reality', why do we have to spend time and resources portraying these kinds of behavior like if it was something actualy normal, or even good (example: the asocial-loser-geey character, so cool :BB), when we could send a better message and save some of the kids that right now are TV-zombies thanks to their incomptent parents?...I just wanted to say this, back to lurk mode now...ah, and also, sorry for my english, not really my mother language.