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Tricky lolita sales comm customer? Cosplay friend stealing your bondo?
Gripes thread.

Please try to keep it on topic and offer a suggestion or support to your fellow complainers for every complaint you post.

>> No.6836073

A friend of mine keeps stealing my characters for cosplay! She tell me I'm too fat or whatever for every character I love, but then miraculously starts making their costumes a month later.

>> No.6836092

When indie-lolita designers fail to use brands as part of their market research.

>> No.6836145

>Best friends boy friend thinks its hilarious to wear a troll face mask as his "cosplay".
>Gets very jealous when people think her and I make a cute couple because we cosplay so well together .
>Secretly loving it but we both casually play it off
Its like he just discovered the internet and he thinks hes the epitome of "trolling".

also:
>tell best friend she may want to cut down her horns (stag antler helmet) a bit to make security easier.
>Tells me its fine, they are frail

I already know whats going to happen. The head dress is an integral part and they will say its too pointed, and she will be all moody and say everything is ruined and be sad. I know it is, and shes too damn stubborn sometimes.

>> No.6836332

>>6836073
Tell her you are cosplaying something different.

>> No.6836383
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>>6836073
Doesn't sound like much of a friend to me.

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6836440

I am about to flip a table.
>Go to one convention a year because getting weekend time off is like pulling my teeth out with pliers.
>Me and my boyfriend met at this same convention, and have been going for the past 8 years, this will be #9
>It is very special to us, kind of like our little nerd out anniversary weekend.
>First hick up, boss makes the schedules while on vacation and my weekend off is not on it
>flip out, e-mail her, she fixes it whatever crises averted
Then
>A coworker of mine quits at work, 2 weeks away from convention, just leaves no notice or anything.
>this woman is in her 50's wtf are you 12.
>We keep a skeleton crew, already relying on people from other stores every weak to keep the doors open.
>UM, I'M STILL GETTING THAT VACATION RIGHT?
>Ya, we can't take it away since we said ok.
>Also, RAISE, BENEFITS, PLEASE NEVER LEAVE US
>They re-make the schedule encase they can not hire and train somewhone to open/close in 10 days
>Working every day until then, some 12 hour shifts
>Welp LOTS AND LOTS of overtime and a raise that is cool

>get paid every other week so I won't see that money until after the convention.

Rant will be continued soon. Oh it gets worse.

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>>6836440
Wah wah wah, I have to work instead of waste my pathetic life dressing up.

Grow the fuck up.

>> No.6836457

>>6836447
this.

>> No.6836458

>>6836440
Please don't continue, all of those misspelled words hurt my brain.

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>>6836440
>Boyfriend gets a txt from his mother today, my last day off before crunch-time hell
>She is inviting herself to the convention
>We tell her no. give 600 reasons she will not like it.
>She has no interests in anime, she is going to fallow us around, get tired, demand that we stop what we are doing to feed her, let her rest, while she questions everything, probably make off comments about what I am wearing
>mother in-laws.
>This is my fucking nerd therapy bubble why THE FUCK ARE YOU POPPING IT.
>she will not take no for an answer
>Is insisting on coming on fucking Saturday
>I am going to be so stressed out, I just wanted my fun fucking weekend with my boyfriend and I am working so hard for it and now I have to deal with HIS FUCKING MOTHER FOR IT
>flips a table

>> No.6836469

>>6836464
chill out, bro.

>> No.6836471

>>6836464
find something to distract her for a few hours. Actually, it should be his responsibility to convince her not to go

>> No.6836492

>>6836464
Jesus, cool your tits. Dealing with your mother-in-law sucks, but it's nothing to rage over this hard. Just try to remain calm and enjoy the weekend as best you can. The more angry you are before the event, the more the actual event is going to seem worse.

>> No.6836490

>>6836464
Remind her that you're adults in a committed relationship and would like a weekend to yourself, since it's effectively the anniversary of the day you met. Or just lose her at the con, not very hard if it's a mid-to-large size con.

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>>6836469
I will, I'm just griping and so stressed out that this was just the kicker I did not need.

>>6836471
>>6836490

He has down right said that she is not invited, and she has said she is coming anyway.
There is really nothing else he can do.
That is basically the plan, but she is like glue and will not leave us alone normally so I don't think it is going to happen...
She invited herself last year too, and we convinced her to come on Monday since there was a long time between check out and our train we could enjoy the town then.
We walked around the mall for an hour.
Then she bitched she was tired, and she did not want to leave yet, and we just had to keep her company.
SO we sat in the fucking lobby with her for like 4 hours until our train because she did not want to do anything
I really can not stand her, I put up with her shit when she invites herself to stay in my home and give me all her shit.
But coming with us to our convention is just too much, I work all the time, this is the one weekend I get off and she is the last face on this earth I want to see.

>>6836492
Ugh, I am trying, but I am so stressed out I just can't

>> No.6836522

>>6836520
>we just had to keep her company

No you don't. You can be a bitch and just leave when she complains. Yes that's rude but she's rude for inviting herself in your time when you explained shit and your SO did too.

>> No.6837508

>>6836520
I agree with >>6836522 . She's a grown ass woman and can take care of herself. You and your SO have made it clear that she's not welcome and not invited. At this point, she's on her own at the con because honestly, you shouldn't have to cater to her every whim.

It also sounds like you and your SO need to grow a pair and both show and tell her how unwelcome her butting into your life is. At this rate, your MIL is going to be running the show forever and you and your SO are letting it happen.

>> No.6837582

>>6836092
when indie-lolita designers have no idea how to start a business and don't even live in a place with electricity.

>> No.6837586

>>6836520
yeah, your MIL sounds like a total pill. if she insists on going to the con, are you guys able to get there without her, or is there a tricky car situation? if not, go without her. do whatever you want to do. if she whines and says she's tired, hungry (is she six?), then tell her "whatever" and continue on to your panel/photoshoot/shopping/whatever.<wbr> she is not your child, she is an adult, and you are under no obligation to put up with her babyish mannerisms.

>> No.6837598

>>6837582
I'm getting really annoyed with that girl.

Also, the girl on the post saying that a 38" waist isn't plus size. In what world is that not?

>> No.6837608

>>6837598
that girl is an idiot. then when someone else points out "that definitely is, don't act like it's bad for her to be" the idiot replies "I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS". even though her original comment was "oh don't say that about yourself!" it's not as if 38" said she was a fatty fatty boom boom, she just mentioned she considered herself plus-size.

and i can't wait to see the results of miss can't-draw-can't-sew-can't-use-LJ-right's "brand". sure hope she enjoys paying thousands for 50 dresses that are poorly made that she can't sell and can't get fixed because she's broke.

>> No.6837615

>>6837582
Who are you guys talking about? They sound like a colossal idiot.

>> No.6837624

>>6837615
http://egl.livejournal.com/19227971.html#comments

She's been posting a bunch. There's a GTFO as well

>> No.6837632

>>6837582
fresh outta college or still in college ones grip me so bad.
>I went to school but have no experience with running a fashion line.
> most of their clothes are fucking ugly snowflake prints

>> No.6837629

>>6837615
summerfags on egl on livejournal. there's a girl who wants to start a lolita brand, but... well, i'll just link the getoffegl page for you. getoffegl.livejournal.com/577506.html

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>>6836464
>>6836520

Learn to diffuse a situation like a grown up.

>to keep her from going
Ask her if she has a friend in town she would like to see while you guys are at the con.
Look up tours of the city in the area. Book one for just her.


>If she is going and there is nothing you can do
When she complains she is tired offer to walk her back to the room and say "Oh no problem, but there is a panel on _____ at ______ that is in 5 minutes so I'll leave you to rest a bit"

When she is hungry use the same excuse. "Oh sure but we only have 20 mins to eat cause the _______ photoshoot starts at ______.

When she complains that you didn't spend time with her cause you are always on the go then just say, "Sorry, that's kinda how cons are. You spend all that time ramping up to it and then it's GO GO GO for 3 days cause it's only once a year. There isn't time for much food or naps cause people do that everyday, cons are for squeezing in as much fun and excitement as you can cause it's so short."

Make sure you say that in a apologetic tone and don't get "I told you so" snappy with it.

>> No.6837656

>>6837632
I have been dying to bitch about this for a few days, and she's the crowning example of someone who should not be starting a business:
She has no textile production experience
She took "a" class on business in high school and couldn't comprehend it
She has a fashion design degree but can't do computer design(!?) and doesn't know how to do shirring (the easiest thing in the world, depending)
She literally lives in an RV in a field, like she's Cousin Eddie
Said RV has no electricity
She doesn't own a sewing machine
She thinks she can make a lolita dress using 1-2 meters of fabric
She thinks girls are idiots for spending a month's wages ($350, to her) on one brand item
She wants to pay a factory to produce dresses and sell them through etsy (against their TOS) and a website her boyfriend will design
She thinks everyone is against her
She "doesn't like" replying individually to LJ comments unless they're white knight compliments
She lives IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER

>> No.6837661

>>6837656
my fav is she thinks She'll have the money to pay for AP's quality. I call troll cuz no one can be this stupid.

>> No.6837671

>>6837661
She's one elaborate and devoted troll then.

>> No.6837674

>>6837661
I loved when she went on about how she was used to TOP QUALITY items as a fashion student and how she knew what to look for and use- lolita doesn't necessarily have to be made out of hand-woven organic free-range cotton to be good. She'd be better off actually getting her hands on some brand pieces to understand the quality level and construction.

>> No.6837683

>>6837674
did she really say she was a fashion student? did she take on class and cry ~it's two hard guiz~ and has she not heard of trail n error. No fashion student I talked to went with the original design. They would send it out to be made, tested different fabrics, colorways, sizes somethings for months till they were happy. Who the fucks orders 50 of shit that hasn't been given a test run?

>> No.6837693

You know, I'd actually love to sell some lolita clothes. Probably just some high waisted skirts and a blouse or two.

I'm not an exceptional seamstress, and the things I make are not perfect. But I'm not trying to pretend they are. I wouldn't be expecting hundreds of dollars. Probably just enough money to cover the cost of materials and shipping.

It'd just be so rewarding to make something, have someone buy it, and enjoy it.

I just want to make lolitas smile! One skirt at a time!

>> No.6837697

>>6837683
oh no, it gets better: she graduated with a fashion design degree. she couldn't understand a business class she took and apparently her school never bothered to tell her anything about large-scale textile production.

>> No.6837699

>>6837693
you could always work on a limited commission schedule? like only taking two or three commissions a month, maybe based on what you'd like to practice (pintucks or ruffles, blouses, collars, scallops or pleats)? be honest with your construction and what you can handle, and if things are priced fairly, you might sell some stuff. but lolitas are a notoriously picky bunch and we do appreciate and like quality cloth and construction, so as long as you keep these things in mind you could make a little scratch on the side.

>> No.6837700

>>6836073
That sounds like a jerk, not a friend.

>> No.6837711

>>6837697
What that makes no sense even if it was a undergrad program, marketing is a big part of it. She told an online school didn't she. And a fashion degree means nothing if you're gonna be this stupid with it. Like dude the fuck. ~ I don't want people to steal my designs~ stupid bitch no one wants that shit n what fashion student can't fucking sew. Sewing is so easy to get into. I was 6 when I found my aunts kit and sewing small things a week later.

Got be a troll, a Gouda one with alot of time on their hands.

>> No.6837709

>>6837699
I'd love to do commissions! I'll probably wait until I feel a bit more comfortable with my sewing skills.
Until then, I think I'll stick to practicing, and maybe selling the things that turn out good.

I just got into sewing lolita. I love, love, LOVE classic. It's so pretty.

>> No.6837724

>>6837711
I know, the whole situation reeks of "print-out diploma from DeVry or U of Phoenix". But she's in England so it's like... the British version. "Sir DeVry Pompington's Electronic Educational Reliquary".

>>6837709
classic lolita is my favorite, too; it's also the trickiest because it is all about subtlety and construction. just take your time, if you know anyone local to you that might be interested in being a guinea pig, ask for their assistance, or of course, there's always being your own guinea pig. worst case scenario, you'll learn a little more about the sewing process and be able to build your skill and confidence.

>> No.6837725

>>6836464
I'm a bit torn here. On the one hand, you could diffuse the situation in the way that another anon suggested. That really is the "adult way", you just deal with difficult people by giving them something nice and providing structure. On the other hand, if you both have made it clear she isn't invited, can't you just... okay, this is rude... but just snub her? Don't meet her there, ignore her calls, not tell her where you're staying? Because I just don't get how she could be that RUDE, it makes me want you to be really rude back.

>> No.6838442

>>6837624
>>6837629
Thank you. That was... enlightening.

>> No.6838477

>>6837724
It doesn't necessarily have to be a shitty university for her to be a shitty seamstress. Even the students at respectable unis like London College of Fashion don't always do everything themselves, since they're allowed to hire outworkers, and fashion students are often rich anyway, since, let's face it, doing a fashion degree is expensive (we're talking £5000-10,000 average spend on the final collection), so not doing everything themselves isn't a problem.

But that aside, she said she had a diploma in fashion (by which she means the National Diploma in Art & Design (Fashion and Clothing)) and a degree in Costume Design, which is exactly the path I'm taking. Now, while you have to be able to sew -somewhat- for the Diploma, it's not what a lot of people choose to specialize in, and there's certainly no business studies involved. The level of skill required to complete a costume degree is somewhat variable depending on the institution (I'm going to CSSD, where the course is 100% sewing with no design for example, and everything is fantastically constructed, but I also went and looked at WCA, where the course is about 50/50 between sewing and design, and the graduate work was just.. poorly made), but it would explain why she has no fashion specific business skills, since with costume it's generally considered that you'll go get a job in a costume workshop or something, and you won't be trying to sell your work in the same way a fashion designer would.

Also, apart from a few specialist ones (Royal Academy of Dramatic Arts, Central St Martin's, Royal College of Music, School of Oriental and African Studies, Royal Holloway), most of our universities are just called normal things like Cardiff University or University of London, or Swansea Metropolitan University, haha.

>> No.6838674

>>6837624
Why are people even replying to that? How the hell is getting a bunch of random waist measurements from people who probably aren't even going to buy your crap useful in any way? So dumb.

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>>6837724
>But she's in England so it's like... the British version. "Sir DeVry Pompington's Electronic Educational Reliquary".

>> No.6839075

>>6838477
This was pretty useful to know! And it's true about not getting all the classes to prepare yourself. I studied graphic design in college and never once did we take any classes about setting yourself up professionally to do freelance work or handling copyright and design ownership, or even the bare minimum of getting clients. It was assumed (like costume design) that you would simply go and join a company's design division.
I still think starting a brand is the last thing she should be worrying about when she lives in a caravan with no electricity.

>> No.6839130

>>6838477
I'm actually really interested in finding out where she did her courses. Then again, it probably isn't at one of the main universities since it's an art course.

>> No.6839330

>>6839075
No worries! It makes me sad that costume students get such a bad rap when it comes to running indie brands and stuff, because we have to make our stuff to as high or higher standard than fashion people do because costumes go under a lot of strain during a performance, and fashion people often act as if we stick things together with gaffer tape.

I honestly sympathize with her about wanting to start a business right off the bat. My family is really poor, and because I'm always incredibly busy with school/college and extra curricular stuff, as well as being constantly ill and over-tired, I've always found it difficult to find a job, and instead I'm constantly coming up with clever plans to make money on my own from my skills. The difference is, I've never gone through with any of them (mainly due to not having any capital), but have spent a lot of time researching how business works, whereas she seems to have a little bit of capital but hasn't done any research or anything. Although, from some of her comments she sounds like she's had some sort of either epiphany or emotional breakdown and moved to the other end of the country, so there's probably something else behind it (maybe un-supportive family or something?)

>>6839130
Well, there's only 23-ish Costume Degrees in the UK (http://www.theatredesign.org.uk/training/undergraduate-courses/)), so it's gotta be one of them, haha. She also said she moved to Devon from the other end of the country, and she mentioned art school specifically, so I'm going with Edinburgh College of Art.

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>>6836440
I feel sorry for you, that sounds like the job my mother works at currently.

The supervisor is fucking retarded with scheduling, her boss is known to be notorious for sending out schedules different from what was agreed on and requested. She sill hasn't been called out for it and my mother has been working with her for 2 years already. Even if the workers schedule vacation to happen two months in advance, the lady still doesn't put it on there unless they ask her to do it every fucking day up until at least a week prior before it happens then she starts to bitch at them for not doing it earlier despite recieving a metric fuckton of emails and calls about it.

Fuck her.

>> No.6839371

I really wish there were more gothic indie brands. Affordable ones that offer custom sizing.

It seems like everyone and their mom sews sweet and classic, but no gothic.

y no gothic.

>> No.6839435

>>6839371
>>6839371
4 O'Clock would be up your alley

>> No.6839446

>>6839435
>Affordable
lolnope

>> No.6839470

>>6839446
my bad, i missed that part.

>> No.6839512

>>6839435
Yea, I know all about that brand but they're a bit too pricey for me

Oh well

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>>6838477
Oh hello we talked the other day!
I think it depends where you do your diploma - my college has a retail focus so we have to take units on Fashion Marketing, Professional Practice and Fashion Retail however it's definitely not the number crunching you would need to start a business.
A lot of the students on my course, I would say around 2/3 have poor to mediocre sewing skills and the year before us produced such poor work that they cancelled the fashion show. I was speaking with my practical tutor last week and she told me that she regularly receives work which she knows that students haven't made because they're not produced the way garments are made in this country or the garment is made absolutely perfectly despite the student doing fuck all in lessons - yet these students will still pass because our college is desperate to keep the exam results up
Design skills aren't much better either yet they all think they're going CSM and will be the next Alexander McQueen

When I went to visit Nottingham Trent the costume students work was very poor and all the nice (but still defective) garments turned out to be made my the theatre design students, shits weird

>>6839371
I'd like this too.
I really want some indie brand that focuses on design features and construction rather than having a print on a fabric - like this dress

>> No.6839525

>>6836464
Oh cry me a fucking river.
You're a grown woman, allegedly. Act like it. Tell her to back off or live with it. Don't come here bitching about how terrible your life is.

>> No.6839537

>>6839525
To be fair, this is a gripe thread. The point of griping is to complain about stuff that might not otherwise be kosher to complain about.

>> No.6839538

>>6839520
Oh hi again!
Yeah, we don't do any business units at all, because we do textiles units instead. My class aren't all fantastic at sewing/pattern cutting, but our tutors tend to nudge them towards more realistically achievable designs so that their work doesn't turn out like crap, haha. But my college has a really good reputation for fashion, so we're okay with kicking people out if they don't do shit.

Damn, I applied to NTU, although I didn't go to the interview/open day, since I'd already gotten my offer from Central by then. Seems like I dodged a bullet there, haha.

>> No.6839577

>>6839330
UCAS throws up a few more possibilites - http://search.ucas.com/cgi-bin/hsrun/search/search/StateId/EN4lyhS02JeZucWXaxfLL3uzTGD2G-4Q_1/HAHTpage/search.HsKeywordSuggestion.whereNext?query=158&word=COSTUME&single=N

I just get the feeling that if it were Edinbrugh she'd say she'd move from Scotland? But whatever, I'm basically procrastinating revision and this has become suddenly very interesting.

>> No.6839585

>>6839577
Ah yeah, a lot of those are Foundation Degrees or top-ups, I think, which is probably why I forgot about them.

Yeah, that did occur to me. Maybe she was at Hull or somewhere? She could've done her Fashion Diploma at art school I suppose. I asked her on the egl post, so perhaps she'll get back to me.

>> No.6839590

>>6839538
It's a shame because I think the business units are pretty useful and if someone wants to study further then they're going to have to start paying for it unless they're still 18 when the course starts
haha my tutors try to do that but no one seems to be able to take the tiniest bit of criticism? (Pretty much the biggest issue with indie brands as well) Apparently 16 year old princesses who can't even thread up a machine correctly know more about construction and pattern cutting than tutors with 30+ years of industry experience. My college is getting more and more desperate, we've lost maybe 1/5th of the students since the course started? Very few people take the course seriously as well, most students barely attend

You definitely did, it was kind of dodgy because unless I'd decided to pop along to the Theatre Design talk I would have had no idea that the best garments weren't made by the costume students - like the tutors had claimed they were!

>>6839577
She said she did Costume Design of which there's only 28 courses - probably less when she started her course

>> No.6839596

>>6837508
THIS. Holy shit woman. Tell this meddling bitch to cut the fucking umbilical cord and back the fuck off. I'm going to assume you're both adults and can do what the fuck ever.

>> No.6839614

>>6839590
I think it's because there's so many different pathways people take after the course, it would be difficult to deliver business units that would be relevant for everyone. In my class, for example, myself and one other girl are going on to do costume, one girl is doing fashion illustration, the guy is doing fashion media promotion, another girl is doing an art foundation whilst she figures out what to do, another is doing interior design, and the rest are about a 50/50 split between fashion and textiles, with a few who aren't going to uni.

We don't have any real princesses in my class, so everyone mostly listens to advice. My class are a pretty talented bunch in their different areas, I have to say. We had about four leave at the end of last year, and one girl left last month, so I think there's 26 of us now. A lot of people commute pretty far (like 2 hours for some) to get here, so I'd say most people take it seriously.

My plan with regards to learning the business side of things is to do an MA of some sort. I was thinking something like Fashion Retail, Fashion Business, or Fashion Media Promotion. Had I not taken a gap year after school, I might've done some sort of business foundation course, but I lost my extra year by being a drop-out, haha.

>> No.6839616

One of my lolita friends talked me into buying an Oo Jia replica dress so I could "twin" with her at an upcoming event / photoshoot. Nearly two months ago I ordered the dress paid the $120 and I received it today to see it's in the completely wrong color wave.. The event is in a month.. I messaged Oo Jia but she has yet to get back to me... I hope I'm able to get the issue fixed by the event because my friend is one of those girls you don't want to deal with if shit doesn't go their way and I already feel like I'm walking on egg shells with her..
Sigh, sorry, this is just really stressing me out..

>> No.6839632

>>6839616
Can I suggest you get a new friend?

>> No.6839633

>>6839616
You just messaged her today. Give her some time.

Once she sent me a skirt I ordered with the completely wrong measurements, and she got back to me within a few days, she sent me a new skirt for free and even let me keep the old one. She'll fix it.

Your friend should know that what happened isn't your fault, you shouldnt have to be afraid of how she might act

>> No.6839663

>>6839632
I really wish I could but our comm is small and she's the only one "my age", though sometimes she acts like she's one of the 16 year olds.. I mean, it's really not her fault; she's got a LOT of mental issues and stuff..

>>6839633
Thank you for your response. Knowing that it will get fixed is such a relief.. I've heard stories where girls have said they messaged her and simply ignored them. I don't want that to happen.. But so far since I've been working with her she's been a total sweetheart so, i don't know.. it's good to hear more good things.

>> No.6839774

>>6839520
Knowing there's so many people out there going to fashion school and sucking at it is a relief and hilarious; like was it the only thing they could think to do, or did they do it because they "really love clothes(meaning buying and wearing)" or...
I mean, you're going to have people that suck at a profession soldiering on and trying to do it anyway, but why? If you're not good, why force yourself?

>> No.6839814

>>6839774
>If you're not good, why force yourself?
Because you paid all that money to do it. I realised halfway through my degree that I hated it and would hate working in that field, but I kept going because I had already put so much money into the process. Starting over wasn't an option at the time.

Now that I'm better established, I have considered going back for a different degree. I just don't know if I have the motivation now.

>> No.6839886

>>6839633
As much as I'm not a fan of what OoJia does, that's really cool of her.

>> No.6839943

Just something I'm frustrated with right now.
> "omg anon-chan you're going to x place before the meet? Omg so cool."
>She's a nice kid (although older than me... She acts like a kid, so I call her one.) so I offer to let her tag along.
>"Omg you are the bestest, blahblah some questions about when to meet"
>"Oh, by the way, anon-chan, you know x girl who's in the community and everyone hates her because she's racist/sells bf's videogames for brand/etc. well she's just really misunderstood, can she tag along."
>I have to find a way to gracefully tell her that the 30 year old woman may not tag along because she's pulled some seriously messed up shit with me. I gripe to friend and she says to just blame not allowing x girl to tag along on her. So I just tell her that my friend is uncomfortable meeting with x girl because she's never seen her around facebook, etc.
>"Oh, anon-chan, uhm, wow. I'm just not going to the meet at all now. Bye."
I am so glad I didn't say anything that could be "omg so rude! anon-chan insulted my fraaaand! Burn her at the stake!" worthy, cause I feel like it was all a ploy to see how I felt about x girl.
Girl who's older than me but acts like a child, you lost all respect from me. The last time you messaged me was you begging me to drive 3 hours to meet you because you decided to stand up a meet you were holding and wanted to see a movie instead. Oh, and she wanted me to drive 3 hours yet wanted me to be there within one. Just, no. I let you slide with that one but this is bullshit.

>> No.6839947

>>6839943
^ I'm this person.

>>6839814
I have a feeling I'm going to have the same problem (choosing a major then realize I hate it) so I'm applying to a college that is pretty 'high end' in several majors, cause I've read a lot of horror stories of people in that situation. But, I've also read a lot of success stories. My mother changed her profession 3 times, Investment Advisor/Broker, don't know what it's called but she started teaching courses on acing the series 7, and now she's a school teacher.
I'm sure if you just push through it and try your best, you can do a complete turn around if you want.

>> No.6839960

>>6839943
she was holding a meetup and decided to not go? that is insanely rude and disrespectful to the other girls.

>> No.6840551

>>6839633
So I finally heard back from Oo Jia and my response wasn't was wonderful.. She basically told me that it was a misunderstanding, even though when I ordered it my direct quote was "Silent Moon Black OP with White Print and Black Ribbon", which I think accurately explains the Silent Moon OP and I don't know how much clear to as what I wanted, but they no longer have it in black so I can send it back for a full refund... I don't even know how to respond to her.. My mind is racing and I just can't think of anything while remaining polite.
The issue is, it's going to cost me like $60 after customs fees to send it back... is she going to refund me the shipping back cost too? It sucks because the quality is wonderful for the price and I would like to continue doing business with her because I feel like if I got what I wanted I'd be extremely satisfied, but she's making it so hard with her lack of service..
I feel like it's easier just to open a paypal dispute and get my money back that way, but then I would never have the audacity to do business with her again..

I told my friend and she flipped out saying how "Well, we both can't be wearing white silent moon OP's" and that I better get it fixed if I ever wants to invite me to photoshoots again.. So I guess I'll never be invited to photoshoots, even though this whole situation is not my fault..Even if I wanted to find a way to "make this work" everything I own is black and I would have to go out and buy a new peti and everything else..
UGH!

>> No.6840554

>>6840551
If she's going to be that much of a special snowflake, you're better off finding a new friend. It's not your fault and she should get over herself.

>> No.6840558

>>6840551
That sounds like a toxic relationship. Get out.

>> No.6840561

>>6840551
I'm not sure why you would want to work with her, anyway. Don't even bother.

>> No.6840567

>>6840551
Agreeing with these folks:

>>6840554
>>6840558
>>6840561

Keep the dress and tell your 'friend' to fuck off or get your money back from OoJia and THEN tell said 'friend' to fuck off. She sounds like a nasty piece of work.

>> No.6840626

>>6840551
I used to have an emotionally toxic friend like that. Kicking her out of my life was the best thing I ever did for myself. If she's holding things over your head to punish you, she's not the kind of friend you want, and certainly not the kind of friend you need.

>> No.6840631

>>6840626
Just because no one liked your coord means you don't have to be pissy, dear.

>> No.6840633

>>6840631
Did you quote the wrong person ..?

>> No.6840644

>>6840551
hey.
guess what.
your friend is a cunt.
you're definitely better off without her.

>> No.6840811

>>6840551
Get rid of the friend.
If you want to get rid of the dress too, don't even wear it once, just put it straight on the sales comms while it's still new and unworn for the price you paid for it (including some of the shipping, yes, but drop the price down a little every week until it's bought).

>> No.6843189

>>6840551
WTF? You can't both be wearing the same OP? Isn't that the best way to twin? Agreeing with everyone else's opinion.. Your friend is a huge arsehole! And it's no big deal with the photoshoot, I'm sure there's a few photographers out there who aren't dodgy/crap but would love to shoot some photos.

>> No.6843625

>Be me, starting to get a name for myself in the cosplay community (at least in my state/few states around).
>Friend who regularly goes to cons wants to cosplay from the same game. Cool.
>Friend can’t sew, really no desire to learn.
>Begs me until I agree to “help” her with her cosplay.
>Complex Soul Calibur cosplay to go with mine… but I love my friend so I stick with it.
>Doesn’t pay me for all the materials.
>Put off helping my boyfriend with his cosplay to help with hers.
>Boyfriend gets stressed/pissed at me for agreeing since he knows her better than me.
>She makes the belt and I make everything else.
>Stay up doing her stuff, don’t get mine/his done.
>Her belt, the ONLY part she made, falls apart at the con.
>Two pictures of our “group” cosplay together and she was in it for an hour before the belt she absolutely insisted on making completely fell apart.
>Exhausted on my birthday at the con with nothing to show for it.

Good job “friend,” I’m no longer investing time/money into trying to teach or help anyone else how to do cosplay anything. Maybe if you’d had the decency to at the very least thank me I would reconsider.

>> No.6843645

>>6843625
You don't prioritize well, do you?

>> No.6843661

>>6836520
Girl, you better not give a single fuck of whatever the hell she complains about.
She's a grownass woman and if she start acting like a fucking 6 years old, leave that bitch alone. I swear if it'd happen to me, I would've not tell her, I would've insulted the fuck out of the fact she was trying to force herself on my daily life.
Litterally. I'm born in a family who respect each other's bubble and I learned quite fast to tell straight away anyone who try to kill that private space/moment.
Impose yourself goddammit.

>> No.6843662

>>6843645
It was more frustrating on my boyfriend's account because it was his first big cosplay. He finished it in the hotel at the con the day of.

I guess I just wanted to vent about it, but we ended up both winning awards in the cosplay contest. It was a small con so I probably got more upset about it than I should have.

Also re-prioritized and don't go out of my way for her anymore.

>> No.6843755

>>6836020
Gonna be rooming with old friends for con. All of them are tumblr-tards that are easily offended nowadays; more or less alienated me before I moved and don't bother to 'fix' our supposed 'friendships'
>implying im gonna hang out with you all the whole time
>implying I won't just ditch you all and hang out with my cosplay group since apparently they like my company more.
If It wasn't in the main hotel I wouldn't even bother rooming with them ffs.

>> No.6843810

>>6836440
>hick up

That's a new one

>> No.6843986

I'm dreading going to a con because I know there's the possibility of seeing an ex-friend. She's a fucking fat slut who will most likely be wearing the same cosplay that she wore last year and showing off her shitty art work.
My blood just boils with cold rage seeing her.

>> No.6845029

When someone's selling something at a stupid price on the comm sales
And they repost
and repost
And never lower the price and won't accept offers or haggling
and reposts
etc
and then whines that nobody wants to buy their stuff.

Gosh, wonder why. I mean, what you charge for something is your own business, but don't be surprised if nobody buys your worth-$150 dress for $300

>> No.6845038

>>6836092
>>6836464
>>6839943
>>6843625
>>6843986
>>6845029
> Please try to offer a suggestion or support to your fellow complainers for every complaint you post.

>> No.6845128

>>6845029
This.
Especially when it's a shitty looking thing or some bodyline piece.

>> No.6845159

>>6845038
*sigh*
>>6845029
Accept that nobody is going to buy your stuff at inflated, unreasonable prices and lower them, or at least accept offers.
There.

>> No.6845220

I finally got a friend to cosplay with me. But she's always badmouthing the other cosplayers (and it's a really small community), saying they're too fat or missed an irrelevant detail, when she is also fat and also misses details on her costumes (that she does not make). She also did not give me credit when I made something for her, and that made me sad. Yet, I have nobody else to cosplay with me...

>> No.6845272

>>6836464

>Sets time aside for convention
>Is given a shit ton of overtime and extra hours
>Doesn't realize how many people in this world would kill for a paying job like yours
>Bitches when an extra person joins the party

>first world problems

In all honesty, just go to the con, and ditch her

>> No.6849053

Not so much a gripe, more of a gut feeling that won't go away. I belong to a small lolita comm and I get along with all the members except one. We speak online, have gone out for coffee and meets without any problems, but I just can't seem to get a 'read' on her. Normally you can tell if someones going to become a good friend or not, but I cannot for the life of me figure out if she's just got a lot of walls up internally or if maybe there's underlying sketchiness.

The biggest problem is that I feel that due to a small local comm, a big tight knit state comm plus she's a local here on CGL. Any investigating into her past would be found out straight away and that's drama I don't want when I have no evidence to back-up my claim other than a gut feeling.

>> No.6849057

>>6849053
I feel the same about a girl from my small comm.
Keep her close and enjoy being her friend, just don't spill anything you think could be used against you.

>> No.6849067

>>6849057
Thanks for the advice, it's what I've been doing so far. I'm hoping to get to know one the other girls better as I think our resident gothic lolita feel's a little reserved about her. There's a strong possibility that we'll be traveling for a con at the end of the year and I'd rather sought the crazy out now.

We have a meet-up at the end of May and I can see it going to shit with this girl, she's planning on wearing DDC to a craft themed meet that will involve glitter, glue and dye in a small work-space. I'll be at the opposite end of the table for this one.

>> No.6849092

>>6849067
Wow what you have said, that is way to close for comfort. Holy Shit if you are talking about me I feel so fucking bad right now! my stomach feels sick. :(
I swear to god I'm not a bad person. D:
Are there certain things that have given you that impression?

>> No.6849098

>>6849067
Man, you're an idiot to disclose that much information, not subtle at all.
So much for not spilling anything that could be used against you, you'd better not be sat too far away from her now.

>> No.6849120

>>6849067
>>6849098
I won't be peeved at you for posting here or asking others what their impression of me is if you feel that you need to.
I do consider myself to be a friend to all of you in the comm, I do feel sad however that more than one of you think badly about my character.

You can only get to know someone well with time so I hope you give getting to know me a chance and that I prove you wrong.

Also, msg me on FB. I am friends with all of you there and I would rather address what is bothering you there than on cgl anonymously.

Our Community is small and I would like it to be pleasant and work well instead of having something like this underline every interaction we may have with each other.

Please don't let it come to that. :(

>> No.6849143
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>>6849120
awwww anon
Don't let it bother you too much, I've had people in the past say things like "When I first met you, you looked like a bitch but now I've got to know you you're actually so nice" which is a massive backhanded compliment and makes you feel really shitty + hurt but some people just won't gel with you at first for some reason?
It might not even be you at fault here, perhaps >>6849053 has some problems of her own

>> No.6849148

>>6849143

Seconding this. I come across as incredibly fucking grating online and I think my comm were genuinely shocked to find out that I'm not a cunt.

>> No.6849150

>>6849143
Thank you anon.

>> No.6849195

>>6849067
You sound like a typical high school-aged drama whore. No drama in your comm so you have to start some so you can eat it all up. Take a harder look at yourself before accusing others of being crazy and potentially ruining your precious burando for no reason.

>> No.6849208

>>6840551
If you open a pp dispute you will have to send it back at your expense- tracked.

>> No.6849349

>>6845220
Oh man, I know a girl just like that. She's kinda young, though (compared to my other friends) so I'm hoping she grows out of it. Look around carefully and mingle in cons so that you can make more friends and have people to cosplay with you. And tell her you feel uncomfortable trash talking others.

And on the matter of small cosplay communities:
>that one girl that considers herself one of the best cosplayers around when the hardest thing she ever did was a plain dress

>that one girls that enters all the big contests, places last in all of them and acts like she's the shit while having accomplish absolutely nothing

>those people that start drama and then complain about the drama

>those people that have cosplayed for years and still think party wigs are a good idea

ahhh, the small things...

>> No.6851815

I dunno if this is really gripe-worthy, but it's happened to me both times I've tried to sell off items from my wardrobe. One was at a local convention's 'lolita swap meet'--I brought a Bodyline OP, MM replica and a couple of skirts, because I couldn't imagine any weeaboos would be interested in paying even 2nd-hand-burando prices. One girl expresses interest in the Bodyline, I let her take it to the restrooms to try it on, she comes back and assures me it fits. I gave her a discount because she seemed super excited to finally own a piece of lolita that wasn't from F+F in a hideous colorway. I saw her later post the same F+F JSK and my Bodyline OP to the egl sales comm. She'd marked it up by about thirty dollars more than what I sold it for, and cited the reason she was selling was because it didn't fit her. I was pretty annoyed.
The other item I sold at that con was a classic replica, to someone who claimed that it should fit her because 'we're about the same size, right?'
no. no we are not. we are completely different shapes, dude. When I saw her wearing it later that night, I wanted to cry...she had to completely remove the corset lacing, and even so the dress was screaming at the seams. Shiniest wig ever, deflated/no petti, no makeup. It was a beautiful JSK when worn properly, and I didn't charge them even half of what I originally paid because they spun a 'woe is me I'm so poor' sob story for me and I felt bad. I'll know better next time.
Why the fuck do people buy clothes that don't fit them?! This person has literally never worn it since. At least when it belonged to me, it saw the light of day.
The worst part is that they have been contacting me again to try to pull the same stunt. I don't even want to respond.

>> No.6851850

>>6851815
I'm sorry but you have to be on top of your prices in this fashion unless you have cash to burn, there's always girls waiting to take you for a ride.
If I saw something I wanted to mark up and sell, at a really low price, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

>> No.6851906

>>6851850
I guess I can see someone doing that if it was a brand dress, but like...bodyline? what the fuck. it just seems really strange to gush all over a cheap dress in order to bring the price down even more and then resell it for retail value. if this is what you do, then you're the scum of the earth imo.

>> No.6852361

"URGENT WTB!!!"

Everytime I see this I wonder if they've robbed a bank and don't know when the police will come through the doors so they wanna buy the damn dress ASAP so they can look kawaii in prison.

>> No.6852642

>>6849092
Are in the US?

>> No.6852670
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>>6843625

God, I feel you. Happening to me right now.

>going to con with roommate
>roommate wants to cosplay- cool!
>offer to make a skirt for one of her cosplays since it's a school uniform that I'm also cosplaying, so that way our skirts will match
>tell her she needs to buy the rest
>somehow she can't find the rest anywhere despite it being a very popular cosplay
>somehow i'm now making the entire costume and also modifying a dress she bought for her sunday costume
>i'm not even going to the con on sunday
>mfw

And now she's going to the gym every day to look nice for the con while I'm stuck in the apartment sewing both our cosplays. She better pay me back or I'm taking the cosplays with me when I move out.

>> No.6852699

>>6852361
OMG I'm so glad I'm not the only one who finds this ridiculous.
Like, did your sister demand all her bridesmaids wear Day Dream Carnival for her wedding she announced for next week? Did they say they were kicking you out of the comm unless you bought a petti that matches your shoes? What is so urgent about your request here?

>> No.6852707
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I don't like posed shots...but I feel like an ass for sneaking up on people
>pic actually related

>> No.6852718

>>6852642
no.

>> No.6852722

>>6852707
Why don't you snap the picture, then show it to the cosplayer right afterwards?

>> No.6852860

>>6836464
I don't get the people who are telling you to chill out or to back talk her. While this may be the course of action in some situations, any sort of interaction with bad mother-in-laws are very stressful! I have a difficult time with a dinner with my mother-in-law, I can't even imagine having to do a 16-hour-a-day-for-three-days with her. It's not so easy as "there is a bad person in your life, take her out" because what I do with her effects my husband's and her relationship.

Anon, what about trying to reschedule a day out with her on another Saturday? Also, what kind of MiL is she? A 'woe-is-me-why-aren't-you-graced-by-my-presence-do-you-hate-me' guilt tripper? A strict foot down 'I-am-the-mom-and-what-I-say-goes' scary type? The type that blackmails you with getting cut off from the family?

>> No.6854039

>>6852670
I'd take them anyways, honestly. I know those feels. On my friend's, I even made the damn ribbons because I couldn't find the right width/color to match the slightly broader necktie. If she doesn't pay you back I'd sell that shit.

It's too late for me to get the stuff back, but in my case, the girl is getting a reputation for being a flake who doesn't pull her weight. She wants to do other cosplays with well-established cosplayers she's buddies with IRL, but they're not helping her anymore because they know what she did to me.

I'd make sure other people know about your roomie so at the very least she can't pawn off work on other well-meaning cosplayers.

>> No.6854129

I want to cosplay. However I am burned out making props and non-fabric parts of a costume because of my friends. I'm the go to guy since I own a shop and have built things from scratch and painted cars since I was old enough to walk but it got to be so MUCH.

You make them props and all they do is bicker about other people cosplaying, saying this and that of their costume sucks, this and that of their own costumes is sweet, that girl is a slut, ugh that bitch needs to put down a fork, gah that other bitch needs a sandwich, etc etc ETC

Normally I'd just bring out the wallet and pay a premium to have someone make me a costume but I would very likely take apart anything they'd make and improve parts I didn't agree with the construction, just part of my nature I'm afraid.

Just ticked more or less. Always saw cosplay as a way to have fun and be proud of what you do and a chance to meet fun people. But HATE HATE HATE.

>> No.6854206

>>6854129
There's been a lot of hate recently, but honestly, the worst of the worst is usually what gets published and blown out of proportion. Once you get to an actual con and meet people, 98% of the people are going to be pretty nice. Really it's the 2% that gripe and complain that get broadcasted because they WANT their opinions broadcast.

I'd say give cosplay a chance at one, maybe two slightly smaller cons. See who you meet and maybe hang out with people that aren't so catty? I know most of my best friends through cosplay. I've been going to cons since 06, and I really only dislike 5-6 people in the entire area where I cosplay. Don't take your opinion off what you see on 4chan, especially.

>> No.6854899

>>6854206
It would be fine and dandy but some of my friends ARE part of that 2%.
The burned out feeling is from having to constantly having to hear them rag on other people while I'm busy working on props and has been for a couple of years.

The conventions I would like to attend, I do not have that much time to take off for weekends at a time, are also the same ones they regularly attend so there would be no escaping them. It is a shame as I would really like to meet convention goers and just marvel at what cosplayers OTHER than my friends make.

>> No.6855330

>>6836440

Oh, god, I feel that bro. I HAVE ALL THE FEELS FOR WORK/CON SUCKITUDE.

Every year, without fail, my job(s) blows up before Acen weekend for the past FOUR years. And this was all different fucking jobs, different towns, sometimes different states. I never learn.

>2010:
Anon! Our third shift person recently had back surgery! Can you cover the ten days leading up to the con, take the three days off for Con, and work ten more days?!

Cosplay was done at work, on third shift.

2011
Anon! We're your second job and you already work full-time, but please work full-time for us as well right before Acen!! We're transferring an assload of people to a new location and need one trustworthy person every shift till we get the new ones trained! You don't mind working fifteen days before con, con weekend off, and fifteen days after, do you?!

Don't even attempt to cosplay, wear lolita and drink excessively.

>2012

Anon! I know you handed in your two weeks notice, but please let your GM go on vacation, covering his shifts, and on your days off train for your new job! You don't mind working nine days before con and nine days after, do you?!

Stayed up for 48 hours straight sewing my costume and the boyfriend's, called his ex-girlfriend to help me finish it because I was so panicked.

>2013

Anon! I realize that it's finals week for your Master's program, but please, your GM at first job is going on vacation and the GM at your second has fired a manager! Please, don't take any days off work, and you want to work 14 days before con, right?!?!

Cosplay finished in the fucking hotel room with my hotel roommates Thursday night. They were ballers.


In conclusion: get my cosplay done in fucking January. Every year. Jesus.

>> No.6855345
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6855345

It has been EIGHT GODDAMNED MONTHS since I ordered my skirt and this lady is just now complying to my demands. I know, my bad for putting up with her shenanigans for so long and and letting her get the best of me. And when I finally give up and tell her to give me a refund she dangles the colourway I truly wanted in my face and suddenly she can order more fabric. I just feel the entire dealing with her has been so very unprofessional and I cannot even grasp how ordering from seamstresses online like this is in any way appealing. I am going to lrn2sew for myself from now on and be done with this insanity.

Had to get that off my chest.

>> No.6855349

>>6855345
Who?

>> No.6855352

>>6855345
Write a review detailing EVERYTHING. On here, on EGL, wherever. Just so long as people see.

I also want to know who.

>> No.6855354
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I'm probably in no right to complain, but it is a rant thread.

I'm not having any luck selling my items. It took a while for the comm_sale mods to get back with me and my post was rejected because of some rule involving loliable items.

>i feel that your sales post is off the 75/25 rule. As only 1 item is unquestionable lolita (the Beth OP) and the other items are only loliable.

>Sadly for 3 lolita items you can only add 1 loliable item.
>Please remove the loliable items from your sales post as you do not have enough unquestionable lolita items.

So here are the items in question; tell me what you would do in this situation.
1/3

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>>6855354
2/3

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>>6855355
The rant is that I'm pretty frustrated and feeling like I have little luck trying to get rid of items I don't use. I haven't visited the comm_sales in ages, so seeing my warning was a little unwelcoming to a page I used to visit all of the time. I feel like this items are perfectly fine, even though they're not from lolita brands. I've seen some weird shit on the comm_sales and I can't believe gets through.

>> No.6855369

>>6855359
They're loliable, not lolita indefinitely. This is why your post would have been rejected because of the 75/25 rule. 3/4 of your items aren't lolita, they're all loliable. Why don't you just give them away to a thrift store or do a $1 reserve auction on ebay or something?

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6855377

>>6855369
>lesigh

These items were pretty pricey to begin with. As someone strapped on cash, I'm not that willing to give them away easily.

I'll just try my luck with other sale groups.

>> No.6855380

>>6855349
>>6855352

I am unsure if I wish to share atm since I was dumb enough to agree to wait for the fabric reorder and for her to make my skirt. I asked /cgl/ a while back how long I should wait for the production and since then it seems that the whole ordeal is becoming more and more unprofessional. I feel dumb crying over a damn skirt but I have done it three times now. Brief outline so far has gone like this:
>Place order at the end of November. I'm all. "Oh, yay! I get to finally have one of So-And-So's clothing!!! I have adored them for so long from afar!!!"
>Pay immediately with PayPal and go on my happy little way in life!
>After asking /cgl/ about time frames I email the person and they tell me there has been a slight delay on fabric production but my skirt will be made 4-6 weeks after the fabric is received. I give it a generous 2 months in my brain.
>December passes quietly but I feel super impatient. I hold off messaging so as to not pester since everyone else probably is doing the same.
>January rolls in. Yay! One month closer!
>February is here. Still no skirt. Life crisis pops in that I cannot ignore so internet goes on hold while I help my mother.
>March is here. Wait. Where is my goddamned skirt? Oh hey, let's send an email and see...
>"Sorry, you order was mailed to another person."

This is where my head exploded a tiny bit. But I chilled out and began the grueling message that has passed back and forth now up until just yesterday when I last messaged them. They offered me different colourways and items and I just want a skirt. Not bloomers. Not a blouse. I didn't think so much negotiation would go into something I didn't fuck up. I asked for a refund this week finally after this entire thing and she states suddenly that she can get more fabric and that I could get a skirt. Like a skirt that I paid for on November 24th, 2012. Or if I didn't want to have the skirt anymore I would have to wait 2 weeks for a refund.

>> No.6855401

>>6855377
Well if you wanna try sell them for a decent price, you should iron the shirts so they look pristine, place on an unwrinkled background or a dressform, and make sure you have some good lighting. Sometimes modelling it yourself in a nice outfit will inspire people enough to buy it because it allows them to envision themselves wearing it in a fashionable/unique/whatever attracts them way.

Also photoshopping the images after to improve light, colour grading, sharpness, etc. you'll be surprised how much the quality of photography can effect how well an item sells.

>> No.6855442

>>6855345

I've been laughing at this image for five minutes straight holy shit.

Oh and you should name and shame.

>> No.6855538

>>6852699
It's normally girls that don't have a wardrobe that decide at the last minute they HAVE to go to a con or themed meet and be the kawaiiest.

>> No.6855549

>>6855354
I have the same problem. I make accessories specific for lolita, they're sold in lolita shops. I lost my job and really need the cash, so wanted to post them on egl_comm_sales and got told to remove them. Fak dat.

>> No.6855557

>>6855549
> Make storenvy
>post link to sales comm with example photo

>> No.6855614

>>6855549
Do an !afc post instead?

>> No.6855716

>>6855380
You waited way too fucking long, and were way too patient. It's been 6 months, and you have nothing to show for it, which is unacceptable and unprofessional. Their communication is shit, and they clearly don't have their act together if they're shipping your order to someone else. Which is absolute bullshit, because the rare times that sellers do that, they notify both parties and have things shipped back to them on their dime.

The fact that you spent TWO MONTHS trying to negotiate a refund or solution is again, fucking bullshit. I honestly wouldn't even want the skirt anymore and just ask for a full refund because they don't have their shit together.

With your money in limbo though I understand not wanting to name and shame. Also, I just woke up so I'm not the most articulate right now.

>> No.6855785

>>6855401
I did iron these. The material is super light weight and the pin-tucks refused to lay down. I didn't have any starch and I was not going to ruin the fabric (starching a shirt can make it bad in the long run). Also,, I don't have photoshop.

Thank you, but right now, I'm not looking for any advice. I just needed to gripe about something that annoys me and is wondering if anyone else is in the same boat - I just don't understand how some things get through, while others don't.

Maybe I will just have to argue with the moderators and then see if I can force the stupid blouse to actually look unwrinkled (fucking material). For a blouse that is new without tags and comes from a label that tends to sell pricey items, how much would you spend it for?

>> No.6855790

>>6855785
I don't think we want to help you.
You don't seem to want our help.
Sell the blouse for what you want to sell it for, you clearly won't accept whatever price we suggest.

>> No.6855795

>>6855716
It's alright, I get your drift. And I'm totally upset with myself for having no spine about this. I feel like I should had grown a pair and just ripped into her about it but that it very unlike my nature so I couldn't even form the proper rant to email her. I defaulted to my usual, "If you could....please reply promptly..I really do not care for the color you are offering." I just feel like if someone who has been doing what they do for a decade had a problem they would be more smooth about, well, smoothing things over. I crochet items for sale and the two times I botched an order I gave the customer a refund and the item for good measure. This whole ordeal has been entirely the opposite of what I would expect from the polished exterior this person has. Needless to say, lost alot of respect. And I realized from now on I need to quit being such cunt and get aggressive about this stuff.

>> No.6855800

>>6855785
>I just don't understand how some things get through, while others don't.
Mod discretion. Different mods have different ideas of what counts as what. This is the same reason that some mods will let your post through with 1 or 2 mistakes while others will reject them outright.

>> No.6855812

>>6855795
You were definitely way too lenient. When you commission something you're not only paying for the item and their labor, you're paying for customer service as well. I'm assuming you have around $100 tied up in this, if not more. At those prices you shouldn't be waiting 6 months for an item, or be given the runaround about the refund for 2 months.

Please, please, /please/ leave a review somewhere after this is resolved. Staying quiet about seamstress problems leads to things like the talia_speaks disaster, and we don't need a repeat of that.

Also, thanks for not taking me the wrong way or anything, I don't mean to be too harsh.

>> No.6855973

>>6855812
Yeah, more than $100 so I'm keeping my cool while we continue this silly dance but I do plan on a review in the end. I don't see this person on par with T_S though, even after this. So I hope for everyone's sake my luck is just bad and I got the "OMG this never happens" instance.

>> No.6856023

>>6855973
Thing is is that this stuff starts small and escalates. Talia didn't start off bad, she just took on way too much and little things piled up. Everyone always thinks they're the only one to have an issue, so they just stay quiet until someone comes forward first. I'm not saying that's definitely the case for you, but it's something to put out there. I hope it isn't either, because from what you described they're fairly reputable and do good work and the lolita community has so few of those.

Good luck with all this, and keep us updated!

>> No.6856172
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6856172

Bitch that's not how it works.

>> No.6856212

>>6856172
> Sorry Dx

Da fuck?

>> No.6856244
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6856244

I was really excited to be home from university because that meant I could work over the summer, but oh I was so wrong. I guess this is just gonna sound like a whiney kid whining, but this is a gripes thread. I already paid/put in my Taobao order, so that'll go over interestingly when it arrives... But anyways.

>Be excited to come home for the summer, no more university for a few months, hallelujah!
>Come home
>"Guess what anon, you're not getting a job, you're gonna work for Stepdad!"
>Can I get a job as well? Part-time?
>"Nope!"
>Oh. Um. Okay then. Well what's the plan? What are my duties, and so on?
>"We're just gonna play it by ear, we'll do it together."
>Okay then.
>Deflated a bit because less guaranteed income but still excited because stable address + income = lolita and cosplay
>"Anon, we've been really tight on cash, so you're gonna have to really save all of the money you make this summer!"
>Well if I get a job-
>"You can't spend a CENT of your money anon! Your schooling is really making it hard for us financially!"
>If I budget carefully, I could-
>"We are way too stretched out! NOT A CENT!"
>tfw we live in a half million dollar house
>tfw my parents go to Vegas at least twice every year
>tfw they get perks and mail from casinos because they gamble that much
>tfw they're planning on going to Europe next year
>tfw they're taking a 2 week vacation to Disney World this summer
>tfw my stepdad was so well off that he retired early and doesn't even have a job aside from selling storage unit stuff on the side
>tfw we buy bougie groceries, think "Whole Foods" stuff
>tfw "ANON WE'RE IN SUCH FINANCIAL HARDSHIP YOU CAN'T SPEND A CENT OF YOUR MONEY BUT DON'T GET A JOB!"

Well, so much for my awesome cosplay/loli summer. Once again, this probably sounds like the most bougie complaint ever, but still ruffles my frills.

>> No.6856254

>>6856244
Nah, that's some serious fucking BS. I'd understand if you guys were really hard off and your parents were scaling their stuff back but damn I'd be so pissed if I were you.

>> No.6856261 [DELETED] 

>>6856244

If I was over 18 I'd just get a job anyway, to be honest.

>> No.6856262

>>6856244
maybe bring it to their attention they are spending all kinds of money throughout the year on what you just wrote about. its obv they are forbidding you to get a job because they want you to stay dependent on them. super controlling and fucked up. its all kinds of wrong and i hope you confront them about it

>> No.6856290

>>6856244
Are you underage? You shouldn't take that shit from them. Be independent, get a job if you want to.

>> No.6856301

>>6856244
>Jack some expensive shit from the house
>Sell it
>Profit
>?????

>> No.6856310

>>6856244
uh... i dont know why i dont feel sorry for you. You live in a huge house, have lots of food and such.
just get a job. wtf. No one can forcefully stop you from getting a job unless you're under 18, and even then..

>> No.6856317

in the sales comm
> dont like post, unless youre intending to buy

i understand not wanting comments from looky-loos, but getting bitchy aboyt someone liking your post? pls

>> No.6856439

>>6856262
>>6856290
>>6856301
>>6856310
I'm not asking for anyone to feel sorry for me. But yeah, working on the job front. Applying to jobs. They can't force me to not get a job, I am 18. But I don't have a car, I wouldn't be able to just jack one of their cars. Well, I could, but that wouldn't end well. If I do something drastically criminal or out of line, I'll be cut off completely, they'd probably kick me out of the house. They'd at least stop paying for my school. I guess it wouldn't be a huge deal, I'd take loans out like everyone else. Bottom line I guess I find it annoying that I'm being asked to conserve every cent of my money when I see the heads of my household blow theirs on capitalist ventures and vacations.

sage bc this doesn't need to get back on the front page

>> No.6856468

>>6856439
I'd say you sound pretty responsible, you know that you're complaining about something that seems like nothing to someone else and you're saying you want to work for money rather than be given it and so I wish you all the best in your challenges.

>> No.6856955

Overpriced bootleg Kpop shit/shit in general in the dealer's room.

I swear to almighty christ my friend spent $200+ on mediocre-quality Office Max Kpop boyband posters that look like they were saved off the internet and blown up and printed out by the dozens. She also bought several $25 bootleg band tees that were basically just the band's name/logo on a colored shirt. The tags said "hanes".

And I don't care how ~kawaii~ you think your buttons are, putting an anime character/MLP pony/random kanji on a 1" button is not worth $5.

>> No.6856964

>>6856955
I'll quit doing it just as soon as these suckers quit buying the shit.

>> No.6856983

>>6856964

I agree, anyone retarded enough to pay for that shit deserves to be ripped off. On that note:

>in DD at a con, checking out a cute crap booth with buttons
>styrofoam takeout containers filled with assorted 1" buttons but no prices anywhere
>ask landwhale behind table how much
>"$5 for one or 3 for $10"
>pocketed a handful of them because she couldn't even see the damn things from behind her posterboard shop sign and was too busy watching kawaii dance videos on her phone

>> No.6857038

>>6856983
more than $2 for A 1" button is shitty anyways

>> No.6857048

>>6857038

Exactly.

>> No.6857065

>>6855557
Have one. Good idea.
>>6855614
Never commissioning kids on the internet ever again.

>> No.6857078

>>6856983
>I don't care how Kawaii you think your buttons are
>Steals them

>> No.6857081

>>6855345
NAME AND SHAME

>> No.6857092

>>6856244
fuck 'em, get a job. do your parents have a gambling problem or something? it sure sounds like it.

>> No.6857111

>>6857078

There's a difference between "that's cute, I want it" and "this is so cute it's worth major markup".

>> No.6857117

>>6857111
I don'tcare how Kawaii you thought those buttons were.

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>>6857117

>> No.6861621

It's seriously stupid for me to gripe about this, but I need it off my chest. I've gained close to 5 lbs in the three weeks since I came home from college. I really really need to stop overeating. It wasn't a big deal at school since I walked everywhere, but my hometown is absolute shit for walking. So I either stop eating so much, or find some sort of physical activity to keep myself from turning into a whale this summer.

>> No.6861666

>>6845272
>Bitches when an extra person joins the party
it's not like the extra person is a friend of their's, it's his mother. this is also their anniversary weekend, they're going to want to be coupley and having his mother around is going to put a damper on the whole thing.

>> No.6861858

So I'm a little annoyed at a seller, but I also want to make sure my annoyance is legit. So she says she's going to she my item via First Class on 'this' day and I get tracking that says "Electronic shipping inf received." We'll, then a week goes by and no updates or package so I contact the seller. As soon as I do that it updates to "Processed through USPS sort facility" and she tells me the post office was just being slow with processing. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but with that tracking info, doesn't that mean she bought postage when she said she was going to ship, but didn't drop off the package to the post office until I reminded her?

So I'm pretty annoyed that not only did she not send out the item until a week after she said she would, but instead of apologizing and saying she forgot or was delayed, she instead acted like I'm an idiot. Please correct me if I'm mistaken, because I'm probably going to leave neutral feedback for this.

>> No.6864237

Bump

>> No.6864469

I keep having troubles with lousy buyers. Recent I sold two skirts and a weeaboo item to someone over the local area forums. The person agreed to meet me at a con that just passed because we would both be there and that way it wouldn't have to be shipped to her.

I told them to message me about when and were they'd like to meet to exchange. The Saturday night of the convention they message me saying they just got into town and would be willing to meet on the last day of the con. I message them my cell phone number and told them to call me when they were ready to meet and got no response for the rest of the weekend.

Now they're messaging me saying they still want the skirts and want to meet up in person but they don't live in the city/don't have a car and need me to drop it off at their location.

Like for fuck-sakes 1)NO and 2)why the fuck didn't you take the opportunity to collect shit when I was making it easy for you, if you still want them you're going to have to pay for shipping now...

>> No.6864830

Did anyone else read about the girl that scammed Kumacrafts?

http://blog.kumacrafts.com/post/51333001410/scammer-alert

Daaamn

>> No.6870574

bump

>> No.6870595

>>6864830
the URL you requested could not be found

what happened?

>> No.6870624

>>6870595
Tumblr took it down but: A girl bought a ton of merchandise from Kumacrafts then filed chargebacks, claiming she never received the items. The girl that runs Kumacrafts found pictures on the girl's Facebook of her wearing the items she supposedly never received. Paypal sided with the buyer like they normally do, so Kumacrafts made a warning post on her blog about the girl. Naturally her friends ran to her defense and reported the post.

>> No.6870628

>>6870624
Fuck. Poor Kumacraft, that's not on. Can we name and shame?

>> No.6870637

>>6870628
http://blog.kumacrafts.com/post/51474643158/just-fyi-the-post-about-miss-hull-was-taken-down

Miss Hull

>> No.6870648

>>6870637
I think her first name was Amber. She lives in Australia.

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>>6870624
Here's the picture Kumacrafts had up

>> No.6870652

>>6870648
Or actually it was Beverly

http://dolltography.tumblr.com/post/51475664189/kuma-crafts-just-fyi-the-post-about-miss-hull-was

>> No.6870658

>>6870652
Beverley* even

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>>6870628
She's the advertising coordinator for AVCon, too.

>> No.6870667

>>6857111
When you think things are unfairly price, you don't buy it. The first thought that comes to your mind shouldn't be to steal it and then insult the maker/producer like you're trying to reason why you are more worthy of the item than they are.

>> No.6870676

This weekend, my friend agreed to get painted with another friend by a professional body painter in a trade-off, for a photoshoot or accessory or something. The day of, we find out that the original painter has injured herself, and someone else has agreed to paint them in her place. They're supposed to be painted in time to make it to a meet, so we meet up with the painter and they get painted, but it takes a long-ass time, so they end up completely missing it. My friend, who was cosplaying PB, gets painted an all-over neon-pink, when she asked to be just lightly brushed on the cheeks and knees or something with a light pink, so she's extremely upset, but she tries not to show it. We say our goodbyes and leave the hotel room, and my friend is so upset that she immediately goes to another friend's hotel room to wash off the body paint. Later, we're in the dealer's hall, and we keep seeing the painter walk by us, so my friend goes to talk to her and makes up a story about why she washed off her body paint, as to not offend her. The girl says it's fine, but by the way, you guys booked it out of the hotel room and you owe me ten bucks each for the painting. No one was told about this at all (since the original painter asked for an exchange and when the new one offered, no one said anything about payment and since she had offered and not been asked, we assumed it was a favour) so my friend told her she had no cash and would give her money later through the other girl who had been painted, as Marceline. Later, PB talks to Marceline, and she finds out that she didn't even like her paint job either, but she wanted to just pay up and put it behind her because the painter was mutual friends with a number of people, and was going to pay the full amount for both people to her. PB wasn't going to originally pay, but she's considering it now because she doesn't want Marcie do pay the whole thing just because she's too nice. It's just ten bucks, but it was such a shady situation.

>> No.6870682

>>6861858
It'll help if we knew the origin and destination of the package. There was a memorial day holiday and usps has stopped mail delivery over weekends. Processed through usps sort facility means they had scanned, sorted, and shipped it out, not that the package was just dropped off.

'Electronic shipping inf received' did mean she dropped it off. The week of non activity may be attributed to the postal office itself, especially if they have a history of slow international processing.

If you have the tracking number, you should be able to see which facility it is going through. Track the location and dates to see if it matches up. First class is slower than priority mail generally.

>> No.6870713

bump

>> No.6871776

>>6870682
The origin is one side of the US, and the destination is the other side of the US. This was also two weeks before Memorial Day so... First Class is usually around three days from being dropped off to arriving at the destination in the US. It sounds like she bought the shipping online and maybe printed it out, but didn't take it to the post until I asked her about it.

>> No.6871790

>>6871776
I believe that if you use the shipping label from Paypal it shows up as what you're describing until the post receives it and updates.

Two weeks is oddly long for any package within the US TBH, but don't quote me on anything, do some more research.

>> No.6872182

>>6870667
>When you think things are unfairly price, you don't buy it. The first thought that comes to your mind shouldn't be to steal it and then insult the maker/producer like you're trying to reason why you are more worthy of the item than they are.

or replicas

>> No.6872193

>>6861621
whenever you crave a snack but you're not actually hungry, just drink water. if you absolutely need to have something, eat veggies or a piece of fruit. take smaller portions for each meal and eat slower.

>> No.6872221

There's this girl that used to be in my local cosplay community but she left last month. She plans on coming back for local cons so I guess it still counts? Well, she keeps buying cosplays from http://yycos.taobao.com or one of its resellers and claims she makes them. Now, there is absoluetly nothing wrong with buying a costume but there IS something wrong with buying and claiming you made it. It's so obvious too because the costumes are often ill-fitting, worn by many other cosplayers, and you can just tell by the materials used that its made in China. It really pisses me off she goes around claiming she makes her shit when she tries being buddy-buddy with me. I've been sewing for over 10 years so I FUCKING KNOW A MADE IN CHINA COSPLAY WHEN I SEE IT. Trying to fool me about how you "made" your cosplay pisses me off because she thinks I'm dumb enough to believe her. Recently, she uploaded a picture of one of the sleeves the costume came with claiming it's a "progress" photo just because she counted how many pearls are on it and knows that it's made out of organza. If it were real progress, she'd show what the damn thing looks like as it's coming together, not finished parts. I'm so fucking tempted to ask her what kind of hem she used for it to watch her stumble for an answer.

>> No.6872247

>>6872193
I've been working on that actually. I feel like my overeating these last couple weeks is just a reaction to being at home with easy access to food, combined with a backlash from finals.

I'll be eating more fruits and veggies for snacks since the garden should start producing soon. We're even getting rain at the perfect time for our strawberry plants!

Thanks for the advise Anon, I'll definitely try and follow it.

>> No.6873311

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