/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

you know the answer to this question

-4/10

also when the fuck did a bodytype start describing a person character

-1/10 for making me respond

>>6825822
>person character
Do you think anyone cares about your character landwhale?

You tried this thread before, sorry no one responded to your troll bait.

Everyone move along, the janitor should be here soon.

Some aren't bad cosplayers and really do enjoy the animes/ games they portray.
It's not to say there aren't stereotypes of the Jnigs, Minx, etc for a reason who completely get by on their boobs, but there are some gems with the whole package.
Looks
Interests in the hobbies
Construction skills
Warm friendly hearts

>>6829233
It's technically on topic. Our janitors have to follow the rules. If the thread derails into drama that "singles out an individual maliciously" it would be subject to deletion at that point.

The best you can do is ignore it.

>>6829239
>Our janitors have to follow the rules.

>>6829239
Already reported it.

>Our janitors have to follow the rules.
Oh, how cute you are. They deleted it last time, they'll delete it again.

I think to answer this question we would need a less vague description of
"Legit cosplayers"

The size of your tits and the number of youtube followers you have bear no relation to whether you are or are not a 'legit' cosplayer, as if the idea of there being 'legit' cosplayers wasn't so ridiculous. Having massive tits or being flatchested does not stop you from doing anything other than perhaps underwear modelling. Having lots of people or no people subscribe or like a page you made doesn't enable you to or stop you from putting on silly outfits.

If you dress up as a fictional character outside of Halloween, you can call yourself a cosplayer. That's all there is to it. Are you a GOOD cosplayer? Up for debate. But you are a cosplayer.

I don't respect those who don't make their costumes

>>6829315
Lol you and everyone on this board, duh

>>6829315
>>6829322

And let me guess, neither of you even cosplay.

>>6829315
That's like saying "I don't respect football players that don't make their own footballs."

>>6829437
hello jessica
I don't respect artists who trace

>>6829437
That's an incredibly stupid analogy, you should feel ashamed.

The size of a girl's tits has nothing to do with if she's a "real cosplayer" or not. Now, if all she's doing is using cosplay to show off her tits more...then she's still a cosplayer, because cosplay in itself is attention whoring. People make costumes because they want people to see them. If someone didn't want to be noticed, they wouldn't cosplay.

>>6829462
No, it's an accurate one. "ur stupid" is not an argument.

>>6829488
Analogies aren't arguments either.
>cosplayers who don't make their own costumes are like chefs who sell you store bought food
Look I can do it too.

>>6829495
but a chef is DEFINED as someone who makes thier own food

are you actually retarded?

>>6829495
Cosplayer-someone who dresses up

Football player- someone who plays football

Chef-someone who makes food

which one isnt like the other faggot?

>>6829521
None of them you raging whore.

>the skill of a cosplayer may be measured by how difficult the details of the outfit are and how well they have been replicated. Because of the difficulty of some details and materials to replicate, cosplayers often educate themselves in crafting specialties such as textiles, sculpture, face paint, fiberglass, fashion design, woodworking and other use of materials in the effort to render the look and texture of a costume accurately
brb legs avenue XD

>>6829230
>this

>>6829238
this

its bullshit everyone stereotypes hot chicks as "not real nerds" like they arent allowed inside

is there this thing in the world where if you are like a 8-10/10 you there is NO way you can like anime/games/western comics?

Why do we never question the ones who are average to ugly as sin?

>>6829525
are you this stupid?

top 2 just DO the hobby that is already made for them to do

chefs MAKE their hobby come to life

faggot

>>6829315
If I made anything it would look like shit

I prefer to have professional commission my cosplay like my favorite is God Save the Queen Fashions

does that make me shitty?
even if my cosplay was hand made and original?
I didnt make it.
Do you disrespect me?

fuck you fat bitch

>>6829543
oh I'm sorry I wasn't aware cosplays were already made for us to wear, I guess all these help threads and tutorials are just us fucking around for the sake of it

>>6829567
but there are stuff that is already made to wear,,,

who do you think makes the footballs?

define a cosplayer

>>6829560
dont listen to that faggot anon

>>6829580
Stop with the football analogy, it's terrible. No footballer is going to make a football. The vast majority of cosplayers make their own cosplays. The hobby is centered around the making and wearing of outfits. Football is not centered around making the damn ball.

>>6829538
>is there this thing in the world where if you are like a 8-10/10 you there is NO way you can like anime/games/western comics?

Unless you're a male, yes.

>>6829663
Shut the fuck up. There is no reason you can't be both an actual nerd and an attractive woman.

>>6829538
Mostly because good looking people are seen as privileged, which is true to some extent. If you look attractive people will always be paying attention to you and wanting to be your friend. A hobby isn't really seen as necessary to make friends or get attention. And being attractive usually takes some effort, so being sociable and presentable is taking up all of your time, you don't have time to collect yugioh cards. But that's just me trying to be logical about it.

There's also a lot of "average" people that were looked down on by the 10/10s when they were younger, and it's given them a bit of a complex. They're jealous that these people have the looks, get to have fun with their hobby, and probably attractive the attention of the people they thought were like them. I didn't have that issue growing up, so while I prefer people be actual fans of stuff, I don't really get mad at attractive people who might be doing it for attention.

>>6829663
>Yfw Felicia day

Is anyone else distracted by the bobbypin on her bra?

Don't ask the jelly, ugly bitches of /cgl/.

>>6829560

You are not a real cosplayer. You are just modeling a costume.

True cosplayers make costumes.

>>6830032
>privileged
Go back to tumblr.

>>6830957
>Felicia Day
>8-10/10
Methinks your scale is miscalibrated.

She's definitely not unattractive, but neither is she stunning.

>>6830979
i thought only i was

>>6832532

I agree with this.

I don't know who started the bullshit Cosplay = just putting on a costume
It isn't. It never will be. No, not even saying Japan does it that way makes it ok. Japan didn't start cosplay. It started over in the US and that is what defines it.


If you want to buy it, cool. But it's just you putting on a costume.
I wish there was another word for it but modeling would be closest to what that is.

>>6830032
>I don't really get mad at attractive people who might be doing it for attention.

You know, I thought I fell into this category too until I thought about it.

If you're attractive and your hobbies happen to be nerd culture then by all means, enjoy yourself!
But if you came to the small pond so you could be a big fish, get out. I'd rather have lots of actual fans to gush with rather than the new flavor of the month who can't pronounce half the terms from the game she/he is dressed as.

>>6833451
Thank you!
I dont know why so many people think cosplay started in Japan. The word "cosplay" is from Japan, but cosplay started in the US at Sci fi and Star trek cons. People make their own shit. Stop trying to earn the same respect by just buying your stuff from china versus people who actually sew.

>>6833468
Not everyone is trying to get that same level of respect and appreciation as a Cosplayer. You do realize some people just want to have fun dressing up? I started off with bought costumes, and now I make mine. I have the same amount of fun as I did when I first started because I don't give two fucks about being a ~~recognized seamstress~~

>>6833451
Oh I'm sorry. I thought cosplay meant costume play. Which sounds a lot like putting on a costume for fun/hobby. Maybe you should rename it to cossewingplay

>>6833451
>I don't know who started the bullshit Cosplay = just putting on a costume

Um... but that IS what it is.

Cosplay = costume play. Playing in costumes.

>>6833472
>>6833474

using the "sounds like" defense? Ok then. Let me introduce you to language where words can sound like things but mean something totally different by definition.

Try again.

I rarely see people playing, merely posing
fucking fake cosplayers

>>6829592
>The vast majority of cosplayers make their own cosplays.
That's only because most of the time, to get a costume in the quality you want in the exact way you want it, the only option is to make it yourself. If there was some store we could all go to that had perfect costumes with flawless props, etc we'd all go to it in a heartbeat. Most cosplayers in Japan (the place where cosplay was popularized and we emulate) buy their costumes.

Most cosplayers brush their teeth in the morning. Does that mean you're not a real cosplayer unless you brush your teeth?

I'll be okay with someone wearing a costume that they didn't make, but certainly I'll give my fair shade of credit if I see someone make a nice cosplay on their own. It's paying attention to their talent as a seamstress, but that's each person's personal opinion of whether they regard sewing as a talented hobby.

After going through years of sewing and I see other people's work, I feel like I can empathize with their pain and journeys in making these costumes. That's where I give my respect to them. I'm assuming other people who are models or cosplayers for the fun part give their respect or whatever more to people who look the part, implying their attractiveness or ability to put on the wig properly or something.

>>6833490
Exactly. Even I make my costumes but in Japan, where the word originated, people generally don't. Cosplay is about wearing a costume. If you are more involved in the hobby and make your own, that's great, and you'll probably get compliments on it. Be happy with that.

>>6833490
>Does that mean you're not a real cosplayer unless you brush your teeth?


what am I even reading here?

>>6833490
good statement, horrible analogy.

> or have they just found a niche in modeling where they don't have tons of competition?

Yes.

I hope you didn't bother to read any answer that didn't consist of those three letters.

>>6829322
People from Canada actually respect people who buy costumes a lot more than those who make their own (since they never make their own).

>>6833480
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosplay
>"Cosplay, short for 'costume play'..."

educate yourself you child

My throw-in on the "make your own cosplay" vs store bought debate is: do what the hell you want.

It's all about intent. If you want to go to an anime convention and buy a $50 naruto jumpsuit without a wig, shoes, headband or anything else that's your call mate. There's no rules about how good you have to be in order to enjoy dressing up. When you read a book, the book doesn't go "What are the three main themes prevalent in chapters 4-7?" and if you fail to answer correctly it slams shut. Because that's not how hobbies work.

In the competitive cosplay community (cosplay contests, masquerades, etc) whether or not you made your costume is very important, because you are graded on craftsmanship, and if you didn't make the costume, what points would you deserve? That's the only place where it's fair to deem store-bought cosplay as inappropriate. And (shooting for perhaps the first or second successful/accurate anaology ITT) this is sort of like gaming. There are those that buy computers specifically for certain games, practice for grueling hours, read up on all the newest patches and strategies, play competitively and in tournaments for big money, and occupies that top league in ranked play for whatever game. And then there are those that casually play. They played the game on single-player normal difficulty, beat it, and moved on. Just because they aren't as intense about gaming as the very best doesn't mean that they aren't allowed to enjoy doing it.

You don't see half as many people getting snippy with each others' halloween costumes, so why should it be any different any other time of the year?

Jesus christ.

>>6833570

OMG. I am showing this to my friends. It's been ages since we had someone use the "begin the argument with wiki or a dictionary definition."

4th grade book reports start that way.

Furthermore I think you may not be informed of the fact that the internet rather scoffs at what wikipedia has to say.


Thank you for educating this....heh, child.

>>6833585
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080806150756AAH1Otm
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cosplay
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/cosplay
http://www.ask.com/answers/107384181/what-is-cosplay
http://www.ask.com/question/what-is-cosplay

Cosplay is short for costume play.
Deal with it.

>>6833585
>internet /scoffs/ at wikipedia
>omg
>I am showing this to my friends
>heh, child

Wow can you be more of a faggot?

>>6833590
>>6833596
yall niggaz gettin' trolled.

>>6833600
pic related

>>6830032
>privileged
Stopped reading there

>>6833585
Cosplay = wearing of a character's costume
Costuming = making a costume

>>6833596
No, Internet / aka butthurt lebbitors & tublers like you / *scoff* at Wikipedia only if it disagrees with them. If it's pro your cause then you're quoting the hell out of it.

>>6833617

Cosplay = making and wearing a character's costume
Costuming = making and wearing a character's costume
Modeling = wearing a character's costume.

All cosplayers are models in some capacity. Not all models are cosplayers.

it's the
"All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares" rule

I have no idea what is so hard to understand about this concept.

>>6833635
>>6832532
>>6829315

holy fucking shit,you elitist fucking faggot
im sure you dont even have fun at convention anymore,if i buy shit(hell i cant fucking do everything) and i fucking wear it,its still god damn cosplaying


i would burn all your felsh you retard scumbag
slice all your skin and make my next cosplay with it,torutre you so hard ARGGHH

il ny a qu'en enfer que vous pourrez connaitre souffrance similaire a celle que je vous infligerer,tas de merde retrograde

>>6833637

Seriously, don't get your panties in a bunch cause you can't make stuff. It's how everyone arrives in the world.

Eventually everyone learns a skill. Your skill just doesn't happen to be cosplay, it's something else. You decided that you didn't want to develop cosplay as a thing you do so you buy it instead. Doesn't make you less of a person or anything cause you can't call yourself a cosplayer.

Maybe you wire things well so you are an electrician. Maybe you paint really well so you never have to call a painter. Maybe you are really good at managing accounts so you are your own accountant... If you can't make shit you aren't a cosplayer but you probably are good at lots of other shit that makes you whatever that is....

>>6833640

i dont think you've understand me,sometime i make it,sometime i dont

i mean,can everyone can sew AND making fucking armor AND making fucking props AND buidling there fucking car to go to the convention AND even doing the fucking convention itself

i want to do all my cosplay,but i need to learn first,why cant people understand that ? one day i'll be able to sew a good looking dress and ect,did you guys just sew the most amazing shit possible when you were ten and im not a fucking normal human being ???

FUCK you all CGL,fuck you,i only wish you suffering and eternal torment

>>6833637
>shitty non cosplayer
>french
Gee, what a surprise.

>>6833641
You may want to work on some basic English skills because from what I can understand of your post, you seem to either be reading the exact opposite of what that anon was trying to say, or actually literally retarded.

>>6833643
>>6833647
It is just wearing the costume guys. I know that you may feel superior to people who don't build their costumes but it really doesn't matter.

I want to believe that this conversation has been the work of a troll, but I know people in real life who have this argument.

>>6833633
what the hell are you even talking about

The guy was just acting like a faggot so I called him one

do you honestly believe the legions of drooling, fapping boys give a shit about where a costume came from?

only reason cosplay is somewhat popular is because guys want to see hot chicks in costumes. if it was nothing but genuine enthusiasts who design and make their own costumes this board wouldn't even exist. no one would know what cosplay is except about 5 people.

>>6833796
Go look at the catalog. A lot of this board is about construction.

why not both?

>>6833809
This board is almost entirely composed of people from the cosplay and lolita communities. The general 4chan population fled these lands long ago.

Am I the only one who has a problem with someone saying "big tits" and posting nigri as the OP?

>>6833907

how big to tits have to be to be big tits?

>>6833907
how big do tits have to be to be big tits?

>>6833933
better than a B cup? jnig does not have big tits.

>> 6833907
Shes hot so whats the deal?

>>6833941
uh huh... sure....

>>6833933
C is about the minimum.

>>6825761
I think that is the best make-up I have seen on her. Really the only cosplay with in-character make-up of her.

>>6834518
>Precious
>Big tits
>massive amount of youtube followers

lolno.

>>6830032
>There's also a lot of "average" people that were looked down on by the 10/10s when they were younger, and it's given them a bit of a complex.
bullshit. i have seen that only in movies. irl fatty-ugly-short chans make the lives of the attractive-thin-taller people turn into hell.
it is only a matter of logic. who is bitter because they don't have what the others have? the loosers. the fat people. the ugly people. the short people. end of the story.

>>6825822
>also when the fuck did a bodytype start describing a person character

Fatty detected.

I don't think Jessica is originally fake, maybe she is now that she is getting money, I doubt she really is into all of the stuff that she cosplays but if someone is paying her to put on a costume and look good then good for her. There are candid videos of her sitting down in her school's anime club before she even got famous. Also she does seem to have some knowledge on anime. For instance in this post, she said she likes Rahxephon (which is kind of obscured in the first place) better than NGE. If she was trying to show off she would say that she liked Evangelion better like most anime fans do but she gives her honest opinion and said is not her "cup of tea".

>>6834754
That gym looks nice and quite big... I wonder if they have a sauna.

>>6829663
/b/ pls go

>>6833471
It's only the people who want some kind of credit for doing nothing that annoy.
Any moron can put a costume on. And that's fine. Just don't walk around like everyone owes you respect when you haven't done anything to earn it.
As long as you aren't doing that, I could care less about whether the costume was made by someone else.

>>6834546
And I've only seen the shit you're talking about on tumblr. Maybe you should stay there.

>>6833796
>implying the legions of drooling boys are why we cosplay
I cosplay because I enjoy creating costumes, especially re creating pieces from my favorite nerdy obsessions. Drooling fanboys does not even show up on my radar.

>cosplay is only popular because guys want to see hot chicks
you are a fucking idiot. Please never reproduce.

I imagine the end goal for most cosplayers is to be a Yaya or alodia where you make a living doing something you enjoy

>>6834811
>Really thought out and planned well
>Doesn't know that Anno basically threw all that shit in there for the hell of it

>>6834860
The issue is that most female character designs are sexy, because that's what the masses like (apparently both male and female).

Hot chicks dressing up as sexy characters IRL is going to result in drooling, fapping fanboys either way. And if you want to stay accurate to the character, in most cases you're going to be dressing up in sexy, implausible costumes.

>>6836081
What a load of bullshit. There are COUNTLESS female characters in anime, manga, video games and other forms of fiction that don't dress half naked or "sexy". Female cosplayers specifically CHOOSE the sexy ones to try to get as much attention as possible.

>>6834811
>NGE
>really thought out and planned well
I beg to differ. I thought that anime was slapstick and ridden with plot holes.