/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>6773192
I used to work at a Sanrio, and when the store closed because business sucked, they didn't actually "lay us off" so we couldn't collect unemployment because Nakajima USA is the shittiest company in the world.
(SAGE+ protip: hole in the wall Sanrios are easy as fuck to steal from because they refuse to put cameras in them and the employees don't design the store, corp does and for some reason find it's a good idea to keep smaller items, stamps, pencils, phone charms, etc in the corner furthest away from the register. I also hate the company so feel free to have sticky fingers.)

Anyway, when that happened I just went to a Hiring/Temp agency and got easy as fuck work which brought in a lot of cash, so I suggest going that if you're having a hard time finding work by yourself.

I hope one of those girls who sell their panties post in this thread because I'm thinking of doing that on the side aswell, but don't know where to start or where to sell, or even how in a way to keep me safe. If anyone knows +2 invisible internet points for you if you tell us how you do it.

>>6773200
A previous thread had a girl recommending eBanned. Her precise suggestions were:

>Include worn photos
She also said that it's best to post ones with your face hidden/cropped from the shot. They don't give a shit about your face and it can actually ruin their illusion of "pure young maiden" since most girls over 18 don't look it in the face.

>Don't be afraid to say that "this is (your) first time"
Apparently, some of the fetishists ONLY collect first-timers' used undies. Again, that whole purity thing.

>Offer to take special requests from the winning bidder.
This can mean anything from special, exclusive photos to masturbating/urinating/whatever in the panties. You can set limits on this, of course, in your listing, but that limits your market.

>Don't be afraid to chat the creepers up
They will message you in advance and try to establish a connection so that the panties they buy are "personal" to them.

>Get a PO box at least two zip codes away from your residence. Never mail from your nearest post office.
It's inconvenient in terms of mailing, but it makes things safer if you're worried about these guys tracing back to you.

>>6773203
Thanks for the advice!
I'll probably not take requests because for me, just chatting the creepers up is enough for me..
But I work 3 towns away from where I live so I could just get a PO Box there and do it during lunch.
I don't need enough money to live off because that's what my job is for, but will be used for extra spending money.
Do you happen to know how much a pair sells for?

>>6773206
If you're lucky, you might sell a pair for $20 every now and then. But expect to do a lot of photos and camming too in order to get buyers

>>6773206
I don't remember exact numbers, sorry. It was a pretty decent amount. I do know that she that a) she got more money as her reputation on the site built up and b) she said she gets cute/cheap undies at stores like Target for under $5, to maximize profits.

>>6773209
Sorry. Should have been $5 a pack.

>>6773208
>>6773209
Ew, that's like nothing.

>>6773206
Personally, I don't find it worth it, and would only resort to doing something like that unless it's something you're into (if thats the case, you wouldn't be asking) or if you're in desperate need of money, which you said you aren't because you have a job.. If I were you, I'd avoid it.. it's a bad place to be..

>>6773214
>Personally, I don't find it worth it,
Neither would I. Another anon said that selling socks actually works out better because it's less overtly sexual to begin with and because you can get away with flying under the radar on ebay.

>talking about selling panties to creeps like it's nothing

You chicks are weird.

I write ebook erotica for Amazon, Barnes & Nobel, and other sites.

I am not even fucking with you it usually makes me enough to buy a new dress each month but you have to be dedicated and continue to write in your spare time whenever possible. I've made it work as a part time gig besides my real job.

>>6773246
I wanted to do this but they say you need to have had one book already published to write short stories for them?

>>6773203
I've just recently closed down my little personal business which I'd started on ebanned years ago. I'm looking for careers and I don't need anything like that showing up about me.

So I didn't do panties, I did socks. And because of that I showed my face which got me tons and I mean fucking tons of business. Guys liked that I refused to take off my clothes for the camera, that I wouldn't talk dirty past a certain level, and that I offered video of me wearing their socks or pantyhose or whatever with their item for a fee.

So if you don't want to do the "be naked hide your face" thing, you can easily do it the other way around.

Also, I started with panties but they sold like shit because they're so many of them! I had so so much better luck with foot fetish sales and in some ways it was a lot less creepier.

Mostly you need to know how to "act" with different customers. Some guys want to be completely dominated by a girl and some just don't.

You will need a PO Box though. It doesn't have to be a far away post office, just don't use your real damn name and its fine. Make a new gmail for your fake persona and run with it.

Everyone wants to hear about the cash so I'll say that with socks and with not putting tons of effort into it, I made roughly $100-300 a month. It could clearly be more if you focused on it more than I did. I also made an extra $50 or so from youtube ad revenue because I'd started an account to save footage of me wearing the socks I was selling on ebanned. After the first year, I had so much interest from my 5,000 youtube subscribers that I never even posted listings on ebanned.

>>6773252
That is complete and utter bullshit.

I don't care how you guys on 4chan feel about somethingawful but go into google and type in:
"self published erotica and you, part II" and read the first page. It's got all the info you need to know to get started.

I'd never published a damn thing in my life until I started on ebooks. I just found my niche (romantic hardcore gay bdsm) and went with it.

>>6773256
You're my hero.
I can't write for another month because I've got some serious deadlines, but there's some stereotypical femdom storylines I've been wanting to churn out for a while.
I dropped my email in case you ever want to chat.

>>6773256
I think I may have one of your ebooks. You didn't write "Wesley Crusher: Teenage Fuck Machine" by any chance?

>>6773246
How long are your stories? I'd liek to earn a bit of money on the side and I'm good at writing BDSM and lesbian stuff.

>>6773278
I can't help that feel that, again, I've guessed your identity. Sorry!

Does anyone know how much one can make for drawing erotica?

>>6773296
Depends what you draw.
The money is in furries. I'm in a very niche scene so I'm a 'big fish' but there's so much promoting and chatting involved that I usually can't be bothered, I probably only pocket £20-40 a month at most. If you want to just draw generica bdsm, guro or vanilla hentai you're competing against thousands of free images and you need a real fanbase.
Successful Furry artists can take around £150 a month or more.

>>6773274
I am far and away not the only one who writes in my genre and that is not me.

>>6773278
On average 10k-13k words but people who write with less plot and more smut tend to aim for half that.

>>6773296
It really, really depends on a lot of variables. Are you very skilled? Are you willing to draw weird fetishes and for strange fandoms? Are you fairly well known or willing to put in work promoting your filthy deviant pornography?

Like, I'm looking at a hentai foundry artist who isn't that great yet charges $60 base for commissions. Not sure what kind of business they get.

I draw for Bronies.
Only art that sells since yeah, the fan community are mostly adults with the immense income for it, trust me on that one.

>>6773295
Me? I don't write anything yet, I'd just like to get started.

>>6773221
Can't tell if newfag or trolling

>>6773311
How much money do you make from it? Ever delve into porn for them?

>>6773254
Please please please girls, unless you're not considering a serious career, never, just NEVER show face no matter what in this kind of situation. Even if your clothes are on. Naked with no face is so much safer than what this girl's talking about. Sure her clothes might be on, but she is still catering to sexual fantasies, thus any potential employer is just going to handle it the same way as if she were fapping on camera with a cucumber in her ass.

>>6773431
If you maintain strict control of the information about you and you never do anything beyond PG, I don't see the trouble.

>>6773439
... are you fucking serious?

Okay, let me break it down for you even though this is just common sense.

The second you post your face you lose whatever "strict control" you think you might have regarding your personal information. Whether it be from someone recognizing you, someone wanting to dox you to be malicious, or someone stalking you, you always run the risk of your real name being connected to that picture. IE, it coming up in a Google search, which pretty much all serious employers for non shitty jobs do on any potential employees.

They will see that you are catering to people's sexual fetishes for money. It doesn't matter how "PG" you try to keep it, you're still getting people off with the full knowledge of doing so for financial gain, which is not PG. Not at all. Employers won't care that your clothes are on. All they'll care about is that you're intentionally using your sexuality for monetary gain.

>>6773439

It will come back to haunt you, doesn't matter if you're naked or not. Anything that involves some sort of fetish of you using your body to earn money on-line will come back to haunt you be it in 5 or 20 years.

>>6773439
Because there are people who can use what little info about you and the photo and find out who you are almost instantly. Especially if you post things like videos. People can find you if you show your face on anything.

>>6773455
Yeah, bitches don't understand how easy it is to be doxed. That's why there's so many tutorials floating around /b/ and /soc/ on how to camwhore safely.

Agreed on not showing your face.
Google search-by-image is only around now, who knows what decent search-by-face search engines will exist in the future?

>>6773439
>strict control of the information about you
>showing your face on a fetish site

lolno

>>6773431
THIS. I know a girl who started her own business and used to work for suicide girls to make some extra cash. Now she has some creepers on her case, pissed off she isn't doing it anymore and have threatened her business and posted the pictures on sites with the business name saying they are her and wants someone to come to the shop and rape her, it's her fantasy. All because she showed her face and they tracked her down by it.

>>6773302
Do you make covers for your stories? That guide talks about them a lot.

Generally, I'd suggest starting some sort of business whether it be crafts, anything you may be good at and go from there. But any small business needs capital to start up. So if you don't have a job, maybe look into selling stuff you've got? I made a lot of money selling some of my least favorite monster high dolls I collected years ago and used that to pay for Lolita and artist alley supplies.

>>6773607
Yes. I also pay friends to make the ones I cannot make myself. Basic photoshop is a necessity for this.

>>6773633
Oh, man, I have no idea how I'd go about that... oh well

>>6773451
I agree with what this anon is saying completely but I also wanted to point out that not every person who posts fetish videos or pictures or whatever online is magically hunted down and has their life ruined at some future date.

It's still not a fabulous idea but footanon doesn't have to be paranoid for the rest of their life if they weren't stupid about their information.

>>6773274
>Wesley Crusher: Teenage Fuck Machine

What is this and is it good?

>"I love expensive clothing, but how can I fund it?"
>mind immediately goes to whoring
>honest work not even considered

jeeeeeesus women are depressing

>>6773685
Oh fuck off back to whatever shithole spat you.

>>6773685
I'm male and I can honestly say that if I were an attractive girl, I'd probably do exactly the same thing. Why work for something when I can have it fall in my lap just for doing some non-nude stuff for a guy who will never see my face?

>>6773685

>"I love expensive clothing how do I fund it"
>90% of women have honest jobs
>10% sell their bodies
>"ALL WOMEN ARE WHORES SEE?"

>>6773274
I want to read this. I don't care how bad it is. Please tell me he's sporting those amazing 80's sweaters in the first season, right?

>>6773685
I don't give a fuck if you think that writing erotica isn't honest work but I have friends who do it full time and make over six figures.

Smut slinging is an ancient and noble passtime and you sir, are a terrible person.

>>6773696
This is a common and mistaken belief. I'm not saying doing cam shows or selling clothing is particularly classy but it is work. It does require time and effort to be put into it. It's still an on the side job, not just a hobby.

>>6773685
>implying none of these girls have jobs
>implying all the money from said jobs don't go to things like rent, school, food, bills, gas, etc
>implying they don't do this shit solely for extra money for lolita and cosplay

To make some extra money on the side (on top of part time work and being a full time university student) I've been been online surveys a shot. So far I find that it takes up a lot of time but usually within 2 months I can earn up to $30 or $40 extra money so it doesn't hurt. Obviously you can't make a living off of it though.

>>6773738
The point is that I also have a job. Fine, we're equal, good. But now I want to do some shit that I can't afford. I make x, and I need (x+n).

Male
>Guess I had better work harder.
Female
>How can I game my physical assets to succeed?

I'm not even criticizing. It's just depressing. It's a subtle psychological thing, a deeply enervating behaviour. This is why we're going to go another century and women still still be 2% of STEM grads, 2% of high achievers, etc. The easy road is always available to them, and humans are weak (cf. >>6773696 ).

>>6773747
I hear a lot of straight dudes do the exact same shit for gay men. And high-status closeted gay men will pay extra for confidentiality.

>>6773747
Because my privileges.

>>6773756
For sure. I've been tempted to do it. But then I said "..but I'd be a whore", because it's instinctively revolting to succeed based on something other than your own merit. And now I work really hard and have good academic prospects, because I never let myself be weakened by stuff like that.

Meanwhile of the girls in one of my grad seminars:
>#1: has escorted
>#2: has escorted
>#3: took 2 years off school because of depression and let her boyfriend support her while she did nothing, while a male in the program went through crippling depression when his father died and kept going because he couldn't afford to simply sit on his ass
>#4: flirts to get other people to do her work

It's a crime that women have these options available to them. It's simply human nature to take advantage of this shit, but it's only really made _acceptable_ for women. I just feel bad about that. Reminds me of a quote in Wollstonecraft's Vindication of the Rights of women, can't remember it exactly, but she compares the sexual/romantic deference paid to women by men as a gilded throne, but one that keeps them perpetually a child.

>>6773773
It's still your own merit. You're just using a set of skills/traits that aren't talked about in polite company.

Conversely, of all the girls/women I know only one has been a prostitute. Because she used to live in Pakistan, was bride-kidnapped and brought to Dubai, and had to make money fast to get back to her family (who then moved here to avoid the same thing happening to her again or one of their other 3 daughters).

>>6773787
I don't know about that. I have no real inherent merit. I'm a dude. Gay guys like me, sure, but with nowhere near the intensity that beta and omega males love women. If I want to be meritorious I really need to take the empty nothingness inside me and replace it with effort. I need to tear down what I am and build what I want to be. Women apply effort, I agree - they have to lift their arm to apply eyeshadow, after all - but it's effort that maximizes or enhances a pre-existing inherent value.

There's something called capital, that is essential to labour theory and social theory in general. I have no capital except my labour. If another man has more capital (i.e. the ability to make use of labour) than me, he either stumbled into a raw resource by luck, inherited it, or worked for it himself. If a woman has more capital than me.. it's almost guaranteed to be what sociologists call social capital, and increasingly more commonly sexual capital. Males have 8-10x as much testosterone, because women are supposed to be desired, and men desirous. It ensures that men do work and women don't have to jeopardize their baby-making (or rearing) capacity by chasing tigers.

Feminism realized this at a certain point but that was loooooong ago. There used to be women who would repudiate their sexual capital in order to assume a level playing field with man, and be forced to achieve just as much as him. It bums me out that that doesn't really exist as an ideal anymore.

>>6773450
Dude, I used my real gmail to get /b/ tards to buy pictures of me modeling socks. It was also linked to my youtube and obviously my paypal since that's how they were paying.

I explained my terms of "once the set is done, connection will be cut" and they didn't care. All they want is to get off. No one has doxxed me, and none of them have bothered contacting me since. I made 65 bucks for two sets of 10 pictures.

>>6773798
They're buying the sweat from your feet. They're getting up in the morning, going to work, imbuing their essence into their labour, receiving abstracted labour (money) in return.. and then giving it to you for *passively sweating into cloth*.

Poor, poor feminism.. Never stood a chance.

>>6773817
I think this shows that
a: women are incredibly intelligent. "Look I can make really good money for not really doing anything."
and b: that men are really weird for wanting socks and for driving the market.

Don't hate on the ladies for being smart enough to capitalize. Hate on the guys for making it a possibility

>>6773824
That's what bums me out the most. I only hate the guys, because I fundamentally see them as people. They are worth hating. They are stupid idiot morons who are letting their sex drives rule their decisions. They are humiliating themselves and men collectively in the process, and allowing a generation of spoiled brats to spend 80% of their wealth on frilly clothing.

The women I just pity. I shouldn't pity someone if I see them as equal in honour and merit. I should hate them. I wish I could hate women.

>>6773633
Well, I would like to give it a shot... how difficult is it to make these covers? Do you get stock images and then just manipulate them for your needs?

>>6773817
I didn't give them socks. Thinking of doing that now though, I have a lot of cute non-expensive ones. Some of the guys even said that they liked the ugly sports socks better. Not a lolita or a cosplayer btw. Just need money until I receive the stuff I need to work in the US. Once I get that in though, I'll get to work and will stop selling my image. Also, not a feminist, btw. I just know what I can use in my favor while I wait.

>>6773844
Well, at least you're honest.

And yeah, you want "ugly" socks because they're more casual, generally speaking. As a foot fetishist, I vastly, VASTLY prefer your old, worn-in, casual sneakers, to your "sexy" strappy heels or whatever.

>>6773846
Ah, thanks(?) haha. Yeah, I guess I can get that. They also said that they liked those because well, since they're supposedly being used for sports, the foot will sweat more. I wanna get into roller derby, so I wonder if they will like them with blood too haha.

>>6773861
Well, to each their own.

>>6773633
p-pls respond

>>6773891
You can use gimp. And yeah, you're basically just manipulating stock photos. You can avoid changing a lot if you find good stock.

>>6773946
Where do you recommend to get them? Sorry for all these questions! The cover thing just didn't seem to be explained in much detail on the guide you linked.

re: covers, a lot of those low rent "internet publishers", if you reverse image search one of their authors' published book covers, you'll find a hundred other books published by the same company. All the same stock image, recolored or slightly altered.

You're not exactly operating in territory of rigorous standards here.

>>6773747
>Guess I'll bid on overtime
>Some faggot with seniority who never comes to work anyway got it instead
>Working full-time already, I see that taking a second job will prove difficult for my schedule. I need to make more cash!

You seem to be making broad assumptions to reach your conclusions there

There's no shame in supplying people with what they demand. That is work. Of course there are things to work at that don't take much effort but are given to muh privileged few, see: the elite. You can impose your perceptions because you believe things should be a certain way, like everybody else on this godforsaken website because muh values > your values

The secret is that it's not a big deal at all. Everybody wants to make some easy cash, but not everybody prescribes to the same limitations in doing so. That's it. Is it fair? Not really, but rarely you'll find things that are.

>>6773946

Do you do any marketing? I write a lot of erotic fanfiction now that's rather popular, but I can't see how you would market erotic fiction?

>>6773997
>There's no shame in supplying people with what they demand. That is work.

Again, work presupposes labour, not the exploitation of INHERENT CAPITAL. The concept of sexual capital has been well covered by sociology at this point (even if it doesn't appear in the mainstream often).

>Is there a gender difference in strength of sex drive?
http://www.csom.umn.edu/assets/71520.pdf
>Sexual Economics: Sex as a Female Resource for Social Exchange in Heterosexual Interactions
http://www.csom.umn.edu/Assets/71503.pdf
>Cultural Suppression of Female Sexuality
http://www.femininebeauty info/suppression.pdf

>>6774001
If you do it right, you wont have to! People will find your stories searching for tags. Like if you wrote a story about gay vampires you'd tag it: vampire, gay, bloodplay, etc and people searching for gay vampires would find your stuff.

Once you've sold a lot and have written a lot of stories, setting up a FB or a twitter account for your penname is a good idea.

Also I fully support butchering fanfiction to turn it into OC erotica.

>>6773971
I use canstock photo!

So wait. If I have socks that I want to throw away because they're getting worn out and a bit gross, I should try to sell them? Then I could actually afford new socks.

>>6774374
It'd be easier if you just tried to sell them off as "totes rare oldschool AP/BTSSB".

A lot less communication required.

>>6773773
You're such a sexist piece of shit.

>>6773796
Do you not realize how hard it is to do this shit? Do you think it's just about taking a few sexy pictures or some shit?
1) You need to look good, and that requires constant dieting and working out to maintain that figure.
2)You need to be mentally strong. Do you think doing shit like that doesn't fuck us up? IT DOES. There are days that they rather be DEAD than to have to continue to do that, but you can't just kill yourself because that would be selfish so you just continue to do it because nothing else will put food on the table and pay the rent.

Get the fuck out of here you bigotted, useless waste of human life

>>6774565
spin the wheel, raggedy man

>>6774585
>make misogynistic overgeneralizing claims
>someone points it out
>they're shaming me!
isn't tumblr supposed to be on the other side of this fight

>>6773773
Don't you dare fucking bring mental health into this as if it's a gender issue.

>>6774590
>not explaining how anything is anything
>just yelling SEXIST

ur tumblr

>>6774593
men commit suicide 4 times more than women but women fake doing it 10 times more

mental health might be relevant because apparently women use it to attention whore idk

>>6774599
>implying that was me
that graphic is just dumb as hell, calling any time someone calls you out 'shaming' is 'fat acceptance' tier retarded.

>>6774374
...Fuck it, sell 'em here.

Okay, I skimmed through this thread. All you chicks are retarded. "DONT YOU DARE FUCKING BRING MENTAL HEALTH IN THIS"

nigga the nigga was cripplingly depressed and his father died, that chick had a boyfriend and support throughout it. I'm pretty sure the chick would think its bullshit that that nigga had to go through that shit too, just because he was born male, and then told he has privilege. Nigga fuck off, everybody has different privilege, and it depends on their circumstances and not their gender. Plus, a rich fat girl has privilege of being rich, but she's fat, while a skinny thin poor attractive guy has the privilege of being wanted and thin, but he doesn't have that privilege of being rich. I don't know what I'm talking about anymore but the people in this thread are retarded.

>>6774632
Don't worry, none of us know what you're talking about either. Go to bed or have a coffee or something.

>>6774599
>men commit suicide 4 times more than women but women fake doing it 10 times more

Get your facts right. Men are statistically more *successful* at suicide because they have are statistically more likely to have access or know someone who has a gun they can use. Women statistically do not have the same availability, and opt instead for pills which leave a greater chance of someone finding the person and rushing them to the hospital/intervening. It's not attention whoring, its the availability and lethality of the method in question.

>>6774656
I thought it was more about women avoiding pain due to low pain tolerance.

>>6774646
I know everyone hates you but you always make me smile.

>>6774656
I don't know which side you're fighting for anymore. It reminds me of a scene from Hey Arnold when Granpa and his old school friend meet up again and compete to see who can drown the fastest.

>>6774656
>Men are statistically more *successful* at suicide because they have are statistically more likely to have access or know someone who has a gun they can use.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics

In 2010, there were 129,000 registered gun-owner (1.3% of the population) in Hungary with 235,000 weapons. Generality of whom were hunting guns and handguns for self-defense.

As a result of very strict controls, gun ownership in Poland is the lowest in the European Union, at one firearm per 100 citizens.

The weapons law begins by stating "No-one shall possess a fire-arm or fire-arms or a sword or swords", and very few exceptions are allowed.

>>6774662
Haha, thank you.

>>6773192
>What are some alternative ways you fund your hobbies?
I'm a drug dealer in high school still.

>>6774689
>gf is drug dealer in high school
>her 3 months pay = my 3 month research work pay in summer
I ain't even mad.

>>6773209
>for under $5, to maximize profits.

As I guy I could never do this.

As a guy the prospect of never washing my underwear again and then getting to sell it for profit is just beyond comprehend able.

>>6774678
SEXIST

>>6774678
Someone respond to this.

>>6774735
No.

>>6773221

Your opinion doesn't matter right now goodbye

>>6774735
see
>>6774662

begging for responses to off-topic shitposting is really the lowest

>>6774582
>whoring is hard work
/cgl/ is the funniest board, even if it isn't intentional.

>>6774764
>especially because it isn't intentional
Fixed.

>see people talking about this thread on another board
>"how nerd girls make money"
>expect it to be selling their bodies and sex related stuff
>it really is seling their bodies and sex related stuff
Nothing I wasn't expecting.

>>6773747
>>6773747
As a female in a technology career, I can't help but feel like everyone looks at me the way I look at Adria Richards and other attention-whore-"I should get instant credibility for just taking this position"- types of women. As if the fact that they're a minority in the field will make them more knowledgeable. They make me self-conscious about what I enjoy and I hate them for it. Why can't people just do what they like to without using their genitals like a bragging right on a resume?

>>6774778
It will never cease to amaze me how obsessed 4chan is with our sexuality. Seriously, that people are talking about and offended by some girl selling her socks and not
>>6773562
is astonishing.

Male priorities are all kinds of weird.

>>6774791
The (obviously few) girls in my Engineering class seem to be more serious and moderate than the guys, who are 90% composed of retards.
But this is just the first year, so I didn't expect anything else. We'll see how better it gets.

>>6774795
Obsessed about what? I pointed out I was expecting you people to be whoring yourselves and I was right.

>>6774795
Because we are more used to guys doing it, not that all of us approve it.

>>6774791
This is a beautiful post that gives me hope.

>>6774802
Obsessed with our sexuality. You said people on another board were talking about this thread.

>>6774803
Not sure what you mean entirely. You mean the bullying?

>>6774806
No, about girls and guys being promiscuous.

>>6774795
>Seriously, that people are talking about and offended by some girl selling her socks and not

I personally find our over sexualized society to be a bit disheartening. I'm not offended, it's just sad to me. It's as if people have become so desensitized they think it's fine and normal to do that sort of thing casually. It's like people are so sexual that we're slowly but surely becoming a culture of nothing but sex objects and losing very meaningful parts of ourselves. Obviously sex shouldn't be taboo, but it shouldn't be some sort of casual, marketable thing.

This is now a scooby thread

We /fit/ naough

Would you people say that nerd girls are more experienced when it comes to sex than male nerds?

Which one is more likely to be a virgin and more likely to be innocent about such things?

>>6774808
Oh. Hmm, no, I don't think that's it, female prostitution is hardly "the newest profession."

>>6774811
The fact that you find a girl selling her socks sadder than one that tripped her pregnant teacher in Kindergarten is disheartening to me.

And if you want to make a point about consumerism spoiling private parts of life (not inherently a bad one), you don't get there by calling women whores on 4chan.

>>6773685
Did you even read the original post? OP clearly states she's been looking for another job for five months.

>>6774815
Since it's a hobby mainly consisting of males, girls into that will be very sought after.

>>6774815
It's probably about the same, I think. The attractive girls and guys can get it constantly, the landwhales and neckbeards are permavirgins.

>>6774820
The difference:

Man
>looking for another job for five months
>can't get one
>keep looking
>find new opportunities
>come up with new ways to thrive in the world
>become better

Woman
>looking for another job for five months
>can't get one
>i have a vagina give me money
>???

>>6774825
>Man
>keeps looking for job
>finds one
>becomes productive
Hahaha, dis nigga doesn't know about my /jp/

>>6774813
but /fit/ is nothing but gay threads

Op, ill give you a nickle if you fart in a jar and lable it fresh moutain air...then get someone to smell it. Kidding, that's gross.
I work retail and babysat a lot. Stopped babysitting after practically looking after bebes kids.
You could do those cash for survey things, put an ad on sittercity, or sell costumes/accessories you no longer use.

Alright, think I'll ask here.

Guy, 25, bear. Not gay. Need money. Applying for shitton of jobs, need money now. Not into dudes in the least, escorting is out, nudes are out. What can I do? Tamper, teach, impart.

>>6774836
Even if you're not into dudes would you be into mailing them things? Dudes will also pay for sweaty man sock/underwear.

>>6774815
In this hobby things are different from what they are in the "normalfag" world, the guys tend to be way more inexperienced than the girls.

The guys tend to be way more innocent and naive the girls, I'm not talking about looking at hentai or whatever, I'm talking about having actual life experience and knowing how things actually are. You take some average guy from /a/ and he's a virgin who's obsessed with some 2D girl who's probably just as naive as him, now on /cgl/ girls have boyfriends and have been in several relationships.

It's interesting how the roles are reversed in this hobby.

>>6774836
What are your hobbies?

>>6774838

I'm not sure if you can post that stuff in Canada, but I'm not sure. I'm pretty okay at writing, though.

>>6774841

What does that have to do with anything?

>>6774840
>You take some average guy from /a/ and he's a virgin who's obsessed with some 2D girl
You know this isn't actually true, right?

>>6774849
Actually, yes it is.

>>6774848
Your hobbies --> what you're good at --> how you can make money.

>>6774811
>It's as if people have become so desensitized they think it's fine and normal to do that sort of thing casually

You mean like how society normally changes over time? It's BIZARRO I know, now kids play violent video games and black kids sit with white kids at the lunch table-- well okay they don't do that, but they go to the same schools.

As often as I've seen people around here fantasizing over the years about becoming a girl so they could be a huge slut, seeing this thread only makes me laugh. You poor deluded bastards.

>>6774854

Reading, writing, cycling, exploring. Writing porn is tempting, but I'm not sure if I'm up to it. How long should it be? Are we talking novella here, because it's going to stop being porn and turn into Lilley-esque Lovecraftian horror.

>>6774852
...no, no it's really not.

>>6774860
There are people who don't enjoy peanut butter banana bacon sandwiches!?

>>6774869
>...no, no it's really not.
How do you know that? I've browse /a/ for years and every single time things about sex and relationships are mention the guys are almost always virgins, even the surveys they have(different surveys, made by different people, in different years) show that the vast majority of those guys are very experienced and virgins.

Now if you have a better way of knowing it, tell me.

>>6774869
Those people are outliers. Honestly, they are the true glitches of nature.

As well as people who don't like cheesy mashed potatoes.

>>6774874
Sure, there are some people who are genuinely neet waifufags, but they fall into the pic related category. The majority are regular people who are pretending. In my experience most of /a/ is guys who were too normalfag for their university anime club.

>>6774865
see
>>6773256

>>6774887
>university anime club
To be honest people who go to anime clubs are very casual and don't know shit about anime, same for people who go to anime conventions. I still disagree with you that most are normalfags.

I don't really get why the thought of them being more naive and innocent than the girls here bother you so much, specially when such thing is considered to be a very negative thing for guys who are like that.

>>6774898
Society drills into women that they are the innocent and pure gender, when it doesn't happen they get offended and try to pain the men as the "unpure" ones. They'll never admit it.

>>6774898
I'm not bothered, I just think you're incorrect and you've mistaken jokes for a factual representation of /a/.

>>6774910
>thinks those guys aren't actual virgins
lel

>>6774887
>In my experience most of /a/ is guys who were too normalfag for...

I can say that I agree with this, partially.
Not "normalfag" in the sense that they watched dubbed anime on VLC and talk about Naruto with their friends in public, but in the sense that they are not spastic weebs who trip over themselves at the idea of moving to Animeland and survive on a diet of pocky and ramune. They are people who enjoy anime and calling each other names. To define them all as one entity and to assign certain qualities to them in spite of the board size and impossibility for accurate data gathering is full retard.

The word normal gets thrown around a lot, often as a makeshift insult, but the intent of the poster and the reality of the situation don't seem to mesh well.

The commonly shared qualities are an enjoyment of anime and the camaraderie that arises on every nearly online community.

>>6774914
Being a virgin has nothing to do with how lewd and perverted you are though.

>>6774907
That makes sense, if you are looking for an inexperienced person they're much more likely to be male than female.

>>6774917
>Not "normalfag" in the sense that they watched dubbed anime on VLC and talk about Naruto with their friends in public, but in the sense that they are not spastic weebs who trip over themselves at the idea of moving to Animeland and survive on a diet of pocky and ramune.
This is what I meant by normalfag, yeah.

>>6774920
I was talking about having actual experiences with sex and relationships. Now you are going to say some 12yo boy who knows how to look for porn is more experienced than some 25yo woman who had several partners but doesn't like porn.

>>6774928
That wasn't me,
>>6774887
And no, I don't think most of /a/ is virgins. There are some guys there that are -- without a doubt -- but actually buying into "all of /a/ is shutins who have never touched a girl" is missing the joke.

>>6774939
Not all, but I'd say atleast 70% are virgins.

>>6774941
Then I'd say you're confirmed for missing the joke.

I bet you think those reposted battlestation rooms are how most of /a/ lives, too.

>>6774920
In the first place
>people on 4chan calling others perverted, slutty, retarded, virgins, losers, etc. etc. stock insults, often ones that contradict each other and have a 50% chance of applying to the person using the insult

This is insanity. Reminds me of people arguing about something on /y/ a long-ass time ago, before we all were diagnosed with supercancer, who said to someone else, "You're on an image board for gay cartoon porn so shut the fuck up about people being perverted."

Words to live by.

>>6774954
No, I just spent a lot of time on the board, the notion of them being mostly virgins isn't anything illogical. Anyway, believe whatever you want, the truth is that if you gonna compare both boards /cgl/ will be much more experienced than /a/

>>6774961
I spend a lot of time on both, and I would say if anything, /cgl/ is more likely to be weeaboo losers in real life.

I mean shit, why do you think /a/ suppresses their powerlevels? For all the friends they don't have and all the ass they're not getting?

Nearly all boards exist in a state of half-mockery, where they are actively lampooning some kind of board archetype. /a/'s is neet waifufag virgin losers. You're welcome to take that shit at face value, but you'd be ultimately incorrect.

>>6774973
>I mean shit, why do you think /a/ suppresses their powerlevels? For all the friends they don't have and all the ass they're not getting?
Because when you are male, people give you a lot of shit if you don't behave in the accepted and usual male way. People won't find you cute because you are shy, they aren't going to find you cute because you have nerd hobbies, they won't find you cute because you watch cute anime.
If you don't surppress your powerlevel you'll just get shitted on constantly. The actual nerds are just as bullied as they were before.

>>6774999
>talking to a friend about manga
>some girl tells the guy "wow this is so lame, stop talking to him"
>wtf

I have so many experiences like this, now the girls I know who like anime can tell it to everyone and no one ever says anything bad to them, they just think it's cute and accept it.

>>6774825

You say that as if all women would do this, when in fact it is a small minority, and as if men wouldn't if they could.

You're superiority complex is cute.

>>6774999
...do you not realize you just agreed with me, or what?

I have anxiety issues after an employer sexually abused me as a teenager, and fail interviews and jobs pretty fast because they can tell I have trouble breathing, subconscious anxiety attacks that I can't even get under control.
I have a couple of interviews every week, but when it comes down to it I'm not 18 anymore and not a desirable candidate even with degrees and education.
I don't know what to do anymore and it just seems like a matter of time before desperation will make selling panties and such a realistic last resort before suicide.

>>6775056
I know, I never said the guys on /a/ were huge weeaboo losers who wear naruto headgear and stuff like that. I just said that they are more likely to be virgins than not, that quiet guy who doesn't talk much and who spends most of his time alone and who's never seen with a woman.

>>6775065
you trollin? you need to learn a trade/go to school so you can be your own boss if you are freaked out by employers, or work at a place where you inherently feel safe.... you're a chick?

>>6775070
No, they're not that either. If they were truly roneryfag losers no one cared about they wouldn't even need to be concerned with suppressing their powerlevels. If they were truly 2Dfags or waifufags they wouldn't give a fuck if they were perceived as 'cute.'

It's a joke yo.

>>6775065
When life gives you the option to be fucking weak and take the lazy way out, you'll do it. If life had never given you that option, you would be able to draw strength from the hopelessness of your situation, and overcome your difficulties.

Tell life to go fuck itself for sabotaging you, and overcome them anyway. Deny yourself the possibility of being a whore out of pride. What's the point of surviving past the next year if you only did so because a bunch of men paid for your dried up pussy juices?

>>6775081
Surppressing power level is mostly about avoiding bullshit from normalfags. If you want a bearable life anywhere with people such as work, college or whatever you need to do it.

>If they were truly 2Dfags or waifufags they wouldn't give a fuck if they were perceived as 'cute.'
What? People don't think males like that are cute.

>>6775081
Surppressing power level is mostly about avoiding bullshit from normalfags. If you want a bearable life anywhere with people such as work, college or whatever you need to do it.
This if you are male, of course. People are way more forgiving to women.

>If they were truly 2Dfags or waifufags they wouldn't give a fuck if they were perceived as 'cute.'
What? People don't think males like that are cute.

>>6775094
...exactly, but if they truly only cared for 2d women they wouldn't give a fuck.

>>6775101
I really like 2D girls, but do you think I'm gonna boast my love for them for my co-workers and by boss? That would be retarded, I know how they are and I don't need them thinking less of me.

>>6775098
>reading comprehension

His/her point is that if they didn't care about real people, they wouldn't care about hiding their powerlevel for the sake of not scaring off chicks.

More often than not, if you're not sperging out, the only one who cares about your hobbies aside from those who share them is you, unless you're someone in the public eye - which no one on /a/ is. The reaction of others is heavily exaggerated, like every story told on 4chan.

>>6775111
Sorry, I think I might have realized what's going on here. Are you an /a/non who's actually a roneryfag with a waifu?

>>6775115
Nobody said they don't care about real people, everyone with half a brain knows that you need to meet society's basic expectations if you wanna have a half decent life and not have your mom feed you forever.
>work
>my boss(a woman a few years older than me) start talking about how being a virgin male is weird and creepy
>all the other women agree with her
I suppose I should have stood up and said I was a virgin and argue with them or some shit like that. It'd really help.

>>6775116
Roneryfag in the sense that I don't have experiences with women? Yeah. About waifu, no, I like too many of them to pick one.

>>6775132
I'm sorry. I'll stop pushing the point. /a/ really is a community of people just like you, don't even worry about it.

>>6775132
I understand that people who don't have a lot of interaction with others may not understand this, but it's very simple. If you make a big deal of it, it becomes a big deal - whether positively or negatively.

If you act apologetic and scared that you like something, people will be suspicious of you. If you act overly proud and boisterous that you like something, people will be annoyed with you. You have to go for the middle ground and act as if it's the most normal thing in the world and you are not effected either way.

Dealing with people is not black and white. No, I'm not saying you need to run up to her and hit her with your dick while reciting a song about how being a virgin means you're going to become a wizard. You don't have to act offended, you don't have to agree. You don't have to react at all.

>>6775132
People think my jap related hobbies are cute, but I'm female. The guys usually just get called "weird virgins"

>>6775153
affected*

hurgh

>>6775087
I get the motivational speech, but shit isn't going to magically get me a job in a place where every job has an average of 300 people apply.
I have studied twice, but it doesn't help me ace interviews. Not everyone has the skills to start a business, that also requires money that isn't possible right now. And all these things are easier to succeed at if you have the social skills to get there. I've been trying to get work for a long time.

>>6775153
But I didn't react or said anything. I know how to deal with these situations.

>>6775155
Good for you.

>>6775155
People think my jap related hobbies are lame as fuck and basically make me a stupid, uneducated person who is obviously in love with Japan in every way and I'm female.

It seriously does change how people think about you and how much they respect you, that's why people suppress their powerlevels.

I've told friends I've had for months that I like anime, and the change is immediate. It attaches itself to you like a barnacle. You go from "anon" to "anon who likes anime."

>>6775162
If you know how to deal with people, then you're relatively "normal". Everyone has trouble with finding a good match/mate. EVERYONE. Everyone. A lot of people don't actively seek one, even! Imagine that. A bunch of nerds on /a/ are not exclusive to this.

>>6775172
Did you treat it like a coming-out-of-the-closet type deal or something? If you didn't, and you mentioned it in passing, and they immediately started treating you poorly, they were probalby shitty friends to begin with.

>>6775177
I'm normal in the sense that I can bullshit my way into being "that guy who doesn't talk much but who doesn't do weird shit". That's all I've accomplished.

Now about finding a good match/mate, I don't know where this came from. I don't seek for mates.That's pointless.

>>6775159
You have to consider that men have been in far more perilous and far more trying situations and simply not had the opportunity to do what you're considering. There's a reason that the vast majority of homeless are men, and women tend to rebound out of homelessness very quickly. One of the reasons pay gaps still exist is that men are more willing to do whatever it takes to get, keep, or advance in a job. It's because "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" - those men have become inured to facing hardships and overcoming them, while no one other than themselves gives two fucks about whether they fail.

Ultimately you gotta do what you gotta do, but you are setting a precedent for the rest of your life here. You have an opportunity to evade the construction of what we call "character" by taking an easy road. Men are blessed for not having such an opportunity.

>For a man of character, in certain situations, there is only one course he can take. The man who in the same situation sees two courses open to him may be an artist in living, but is hardly entitled to respect.

>quae fuit durum pati, meminisse dulce est.
>Things which were hard to bear are pleasant to remember.

>>6775177
>If you didn't, and you mentioned it in passing, and they immediately started treating you poorly, they were probalby shitty friends to begin with.
Yeah naw, I would just mention a show or film I liked.

I mean, sure, maybe they were just "shitty friends to begin with," but it's happened many times, and to other people I know too (most of my closest friends are also powerlevel suppressing weebs except around each other). It's happened enough I'm ready to say it's a real phenomena and I don't judge anyone for hiding their weeaboo interests around normalfags.

>>6775200
see
>>6774828

>>6775196
Take off your fedora there scout, I mentioned finding a woman because /a/ being inexperienced with woman was mentioned ITT like it was special to them when it isn't.

Everyone is a bullshitter, as well. You're not special in that area either. That doesn't make anons a bunch of lonely virgins. I'm not saying this is a negative thing, I'm just telling you, some people seem to be seeing a skewed version of how everyone else is. it's not a big deal until you think it is.

>>6775201
There are a lot of shitty people. Don't underestimate it. You mentioned it in passing, and they started treating you badly? Did they tease you, or stop hanging around you, or what?

From personal experiences we can gather information to support our assumptions. In my case, it's severely contrary. Where do you live?

>>6775229
>because /a/ being inexperienced with woman was mentioned ITT like it was special to them when it isn't.
Did you know that like 90% of adult males have been in relationships and are not virgins?

>>6775229
No, they would just start taking my opinions less seriously. And yeah, they would tease about it or bring it up a lot or ask me general questions about Japan and Japanese shit.

I live in New York, but it's happened to friends in Ohio, Vermont, Illinois...

>>6775243
Legally adult.

>>6775239
>Did you know that like 90% of adult males have been in relationships and are not virgins?
What's an "adult" to you?

>>6775239

Did you know that like, your statistic is 100% out of your ass?

>>6775244
So they don't reflect the truth at all?

>>6775249

There is no way for me or you to answer that question, because neither me nor you have any idea what every man in the fucking world has done. Point is, don't pull statistics out of your ass that are impossible to prove.

>>6775239
I'm going to need a reliable source, i.e. not you.

>>6775240
>started taking my opinions less seriously
Shitty friends
>They would tease me and ask questions about Japan
Not too bad, unless they were being super facetious. Even then, friends mess around with each other all the time and don't think anything of it at the end of the day. Still sounds like a case of you picking out shitty friends, I'm sorry.

>>6775247
Then you're wrong.

http://www.citizenlink.com/2010/06/17/teen-sexual-behavior-quick-facts/#II.%20Older%20teens%20%2815%20to%2019%20years%20old%29
>According to CDC data from 2011, of adolescents in 12th grade (high-school Seniors), about 49 percent of boys and nearly 46 percent of girls have had sex; additionally, nearly one in four (24.1%) high-school Seniors, or 12th graders, have had sexual intercourse with four or more persons.20

>>6775250
I'd like to add, I'm not blaming you for meeting shitty people. It's not your fault that they treated you badly despite you doing nothing to warrant such behavior. But the possibility that there is something you've been doing to trigger this kind of snotty reaction is still there, as is the possibility that you don't know how to pick 'em. It's okay though, I pick shitty friends too.

>>6775250
I guess we'll just have to live with our different experiences, but as far as I'm concerned outing yourself as an anime fan -- nowhere CLOSE to outing my powerlevels -- does not beget good results, so like I said, not gonna judge someone for avoiding it.

>>6775263
I don't care if people hide their powerlevels either
I'm not even sure how this thread got to this point.

>>6775253
So all statistics ever are useless because you don't like the results.

>>6775256
>checking only 17 and 18 year olds
http://books.google.com.br/books?id=WMrcoekr_4wC&pg=PA19&lpg=PA19&dq=adult+virginity+survey&source=bl&ots=Y_esmQfmhN&sig=RAlrcjaYpA-yscvpFi8K9A-fIdM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=23xvUaq5L4mA9QTUjoF4&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

Page 22.
>only 16% of americans between the age of 16 and 23 are virgins

>>6775132
Women really do that? Sorry I'm not an expert on them.

>>6775268
stumbling into the thread to say

who cares how many virgins there are above the legal age
honestly
who cares

you obviously, but who else, who that matters

>tfw came here to find out ways to earn cash and got greeted by male vs female argument

>>6775267
>I'm not even sure how this thread got to this point.
Me fuckin neither, man.

>>6775200
whoa there sport take that fedora off your head cause i need something to catch the eyes that just rolled off of my face

i was gonna write you a dissertation on why but this isn't the place so i'll just ask you why the fuck you think women care remotely what you think

>>6775322
>responding an hour later to say you don't care

>>6775326
bitch i just opened the thread

>>6775326
>new

This is a slow board you imbecile. Not every board is /b/ where if a thread isn't responded to in 2 minutes it's out of sight, out of mind.

Back on topic. Is there a market for lolitas or shimapan/kumapan for pervs? Not going to do it in my burando but maybe buy some shitty BL just for that purpose. Would getting a massage wand and cam while masturbating in them raise value? What's the market like in SE Asia?

lol whoredom really is an essential part of the female nature

>>6775455
I'd be interested but I am poorfag.
A lot of people that will be interested are poorfags.

>buying used panties smelling like piss, shit and vaginal discharge from some ugly woman in the internet
Yeah sounds like a wonderful way to spend my money.

i'm from /k/ and i like lurking on /cgl/

expensive hobbies generally need a stable income and crafts or skills gained from the hobby are a sure way to put back into it.

i collect a lot of firearms, and i invested some cash into going to armory school. combined with regular shooting, i do little gun smithing jobs for people for just enough money to fund the hobby. everyone wins.

for cosplay or lolita, why not make textile crafts. don't just limit it to clothing - try leather or working with nylon to make durable bags or other containers.

for people looking for work, i went for a few months between jobs and nothing gets attention like volunteer work. you feel good about yourself - you don't get depressed by being inside all the time and wallowing in problems, you meet new people and get your name out there and it looks fantastic on a resume when you can show that you have world experience in a wide variety of tasks and are ready and willing to put in the effort to be productive - even if it isn't in your field.

for those in here that are doing the whole "women have it easier then men"; there's nothing inherently wrong with that since if there's a market for a product, there's a merchant willing to sell. to put morality on how you make your money - as long as everyone involved agrees to a deal - is juvenile.

when i was in college and grad school, a number of students (more women than men, but still both sexes) did the escort or stripping thing. it's a job like any other, and some liked it enough to keep at it. instead of thinking less of them, it would be better to remind yourself that if you think a woman selling her body to men to make a buck is bad; how awful are the men that have to spend the cash to get some action?

about the only real advice i have on it is to keep it strictly business, watch out for yourself, and make sure it's something you WANT to do, not something you HAVE to do.

>>6774825
The minority of females who actually do this are are loud, attention-loving girls. So of course you'll only hear about them doing it. You just don't hear about the rest of the women willing to work, because, well, they are working instead of being obnoxious about selling their bodies and have normal jobs.

>>6773192
>job
Dear (OP)
Keep applying to department stores (Make Up & Fragrance)

>>6773192
Dear (OP)
If you live around major cities try applying to department stores and work with make up or fragance. those are the easy department.

Men seem to forget that all women don't 'have it easy'. No one would pay for my ass. Ugly girls have to work hard.

So stop condemning the entire gender. You should be jealous of attractive people. Those are the people who go places and get life on a sliver platter if they are male or female.

If you are ugly or fat? Sucks to be you. You need to WORK.

>>6776134
You can fix fat. And you can blur your face out for ugly. All you need is a decent enough body. If you can't even work out for your body to look good, you aren't trying hard enough. Also, makeup is always available. Facials, bb creams, concealers, hundreds of different fashions. Don't use the "i'm too ugly/fat" card. It just doesn't work when things like that can be so easily fixed. We have the technology.

I don't hate men, they just scare me. They're bigger than me, stronger than me, and could probably snap me in half. If they're willing to pay for videos of my feet (and I do take good care of them) then that's a service I'll provide. What's wrong with that?

>>6776134
>Implying people who are considered attractive don't work.
Don't get me wrong, there are the rare few that have wonderful genetics, and were raised eating certain foods at certain amounts, which happen to be their maintenance to stay fit, but most of them have to work.
You could do squats, lunges, amongst other workouts to get your rumpus into fine shape if you wanted to. Obviously if you're a paraplegic or a few other things it would pose a much much greater challenge, but you get the idea.

>>6776358
Where can I get in on this?

I got hired at Gamestop to stand at the front counter and be, quote, "professional eye candy". I'm not allowed to answer questions about the merchandise, I have to get one of my (male) co-workers.
I get paid more than they do. I'd complain if I had any pride left.

>>6776422
clips4sale.com for the boring stuff.
canadiangiantess.com for the fun stuff.

>>6776427
okay as someone who worked at gamestop for 10 years that's crap unless you were hired by the district manager .... you wouldn't get any hours unless you get good numbers

>>6776431
>canadiangiantess.com
lol, which one are you?

>>6776437
I plead the fifth.

>>6776427
>lying on the internet
male scum pls go

I was able to make some money off of fiver, but of course, you get like $4 for every little drawing or whatever-it-is that you do. I was offered money to do some drawings for people outside of fiver, mostly in the furry genre (not sexual art, surprisingly, just OCs), but I don't feel confident enough to take more than $5 from people for a sketch. I might get back into it. We'll see. Back when I was younger, I was able to sell pixel art I made for like $5 a piece, too.

I know some of you will complain about this, but for a year, I did make money selling baby hamsters and rehoming older hamsters in general. Not sure if I profited that much from this. I also resold wigs locally that I didn't want or wore once -- I actually made a profit off of wigs that I had worn, because it seems like people didn't want to wait for the ebay wigs to arrive. Plus, I got mine off of taobao for the most part. I sold (locally, again) a few cheap seifuku that I got off of taobao. To be honest, I generally sold a lot of stuff that I didn't want or use anymore on kijiji and craigslist.

I work two pt jobs now while going to school. I don't even know what I'm spending my money on, but it's all going away so quickly. Good luck finding a job, anon. Don't whore yourself out unless you really want to.

Yeah, I have a question for the prostitutes and the non-prostitutes. Male, virgin, mid-twenties. Hygenic. Covered in psoriasis, hence the virginity.

Would you think less of me if I caved and turned to a pro for compansionship? I'm so lonely.

>>6776990
I thought my boyfriend had it bad

Cheap Cosplays, reuse old cosplays or just don't and not give a fuck.

>>6776990

Spend that money on a therapist and some good creams? That looks really bad, I don't blame you if it's taking a hit on your self esteem.

>>6777022
Creams haven't worked. Sunlight does, but it's a boomerang. It comes back worse than before.

Whores are cheaper than therapists. And I'm not comfortable letting someone get inside my head.